March 30, 2023
Ep 9: The Highs, Lows and Hilarities of Teaching
This week's episode is something of a roller coaster ride. From the lows of taking in the pathetic government pay offer to the highs of our favourite teaching feel-good stories, all the emotions are on show! We finish with, as ever, some of your funny stories from the classroom. Get in touch with us! e-mail: teachsleeprepeatpod@gmail.com Instagram: @teachsleeprepeatpodcast
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Breaking news, massive shortage
of paper towels across primary
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schools in the UK, thousands of
children across the country left
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without appropriate.
First aid for scrapes, bumps and
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sore elbows scientists.
Call emergency meeting in hopes
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of finding a wet paper towel
replacement.
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UK government denies allegations
of supplying dodgy green paper
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towels to already undersupplied
schools chin in at 64, the
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inside scoop.
Poop.
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Hello everyone.
Welcome back to another episode
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of teach sleep.
Repeat, my name is Dylan and my
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name is Hayden.
And this is episode 9.
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You guys have been listening to
us for nine weeks now.
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Why who knows?
I don't know.
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That's like ten episodes, man.
It really is it really, really
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is, thank you for listening in
again guys, we see the followers
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going up again, I love it, I
absolutely love it.
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And I just want to say thank you
because I know it's annoying.
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Listening to, I say this every
time, but we appreciate it
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massively, ratings follows,
active listeners, it's all good.
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And you're back again to listen
to us once more talk about,
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absolutely nothing.
So let's get started Haven.
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How you feeling thanks that am?
Well, I'm a mixed emotions of
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laughing.
I'm happy.
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I'm also having heart
palpitations right now because I
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ate a massive bar chocolate.
Just before we started this, I
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thought I needed the energy
boost so I'm sort of like this,
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you know, everyone listening, I
had a heart, I've got my door
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about an hour, Iago.
Because, obviously, we record it
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at the same time every week and
hey, Dad, just text me going.
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Okay, ready to go.
Just nipping to Tesco because I
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need a treat.
That's like I know where that
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is, and I didn't put two and two
together because about 10
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minutes later, I heard, you
know, when some puts a leaflet
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for your door, it's just like a
little Russell and the, the
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letterbox just kind of snaps,
shut, I just thought I was
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getting some junk mail again and
I honestly just paid my head
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because I was upstairs, I just
paid my head down the hallway,
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Down The Landing Story, down the
stairs, and I could see
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something hanging out of the
letter.
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Looks and I was like more junk
more, another estate agent
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trying to get us to go on the
market.
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They're fine.
And I just carried on like
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normal Hayden.
Text me go.
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You had a little visit from me,
a little treat.
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It was a bar of chocolate and
I'm gonna hold it up for anyone
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on the reels and I just want to
say thank you.
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Look.
You're welcome.
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You know Obelisk Creations in
terms of I wanted to discuss
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this very quickly in terms of
favorite chocolate bars, Hayden.
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What, where you are?
You know, I don't know why I
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picked that.
I think I was just trying to be
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a bit different because I always
get the same thing.
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I really like fruit and nut
fruit.
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And nut is like just the best
one, the absolute best one
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followed by caramel about you.
I don't know.
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I think listening to your
favorite beings fruit and nut is
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is quite funny because it's kind
of like the one that would give
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me a rash because I'm allergic
to my teeth.
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Yeah, yeah, this is why I don't
know.
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Mother's Creations is good but
I'm kind of interested in
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whatever because everyone has an
opinion, doesn't it?
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Everyone has strong opinions on
chocolate, and I think it was
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someone picks fruit and nut
immediately.
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I'm just completely switched
off.
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I might know, Kate can't even
get involved in a conversation.
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Don't know what it tastes like,
but there are just, they're just
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some better than others, and you
know what?
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I think is cruelly criminally
kind of underrated.
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Just classic just give me a
Dairy Milk.
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Just keeps growing classic do
milk and I'll eat the entire
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thing in one go.
Have you eaten an entire share
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bar?
Yeah.
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Yeah, that bar that I got you.
I bought myself one as well and
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I ate the whole thing.
I know.
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I'm not kidding.
Just before we started this
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podcast and I put it down six or
seven times after having like a
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couple of squares I did that
thing where you everyone knows
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this.
You fold over the end but then I
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immediately picked it back up.
Unfolded the end.
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And broke the next line off.
Eight, that fold them back.
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I'll put it down, then I'll be
going, it'll be good.
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But you're right there about
normal, chocolate book.
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And I tell you how I know this,
because Easter Man Easter eggs,
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they're just pure chocolate and
there is the best chocolate.
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There's a reason at Tesco today.
I had to buy a bunch of Easter
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eggs because I had to replace
all of the Easter eggs in my
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house that we bought for other
people, over the last few weeks
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when they were on offer.
I've eaten all the other ones
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and I've replaced them with the
full price Easter eggs.
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So bit silly, And they know
exactly what they're doing when
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they bring Easter eggs out like
two months before Easter day
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and, you know, I'm in this
planet who bought an Easter egg
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in February as still got.
That is really yea, absolutely
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stuff.
They absolutely not
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unbelievable.
Well, I'm glad they're talking
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about helped because I felt that
you were a bit stressed today.
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You seemed a bit stressed.
I thought you might appreciate a
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chocolate bar.
How was your week?
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Are you feeling all right?
Now it was, it was nice.
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Do you know what we've realized
is?
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I just think about this earlier,
and when we do the podcast, we
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catch up with our weeks or is it
with joke, isn't it?
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And we always go to some funny
stories and don't get me wrong.
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I've got a couple of funny
stories from this week but it is
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true.
I just and I'm sure listeners
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can relate this.
I'm sure they just have a week
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where you just feel stressed and
you can't really put your finger
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on it because I came to your
room today.
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Obviously after school just
feeling a bit overwhelmed.
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I think where it's the end of
time you know you have to put
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assessments up you have to have
parents evening coming up and
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it's just all stuff you know
it's coming out it's part and
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parcel of school life for this
time of the year but I think it
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just it just Came over me that I
just, you know, 67 things at
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once.
And I think it's just a very
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normal feeling as teachers in it
to get that every now and then.
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And I just needed to kind of
walk into a room and just say a
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Hayden.
I'm quite stressed.
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And, and that was almost enough.
And you said to me, can you
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verbalize it?
And I was like, no really?
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I just, I just needed to step
out of my room, step away from
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my pile of marking and just have
10 minutes.
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Like walking around the school.
Basically, and just walk up to
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your partner School pacing,
basically edge of space.
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Around a bit.
And then I was like, oh well I'm
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gonna go and finish my marking
now and I did feel better but
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but yeah, just put just one of
those days where you just think?
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I'm glad that we've got for it.
I'm glad we got through this day
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because this day won't happen
again now and we can move on to
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the next one and be more
positive.
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But I did want to tell one story
because it was my friend's.
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This leaks the last week, it was
my friend's 30th birthday.
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Recently, do you know your
friends group work with?
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I'm very close to my friends
still that we went to school
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with.
So it's kind of the Year we're
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all turning 30 and I'm the, I'm
the baby of the group.
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I won't be 13 to August, but a
few of us are starting to turn
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30.
So at the weekend went out for
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drinks, went out for dinner and
it links to what we were saying
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about last week about having a
nice drink and funny enough.
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My sister message me after
listening to last week's podcast
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and she was like yes I'm the
same so maybe it's like a
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genetic thing.
She said that having a Nice
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drink in the in the fridge.
So you know, like I had a bit of
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a stressful day to day, right?
She said her, if she would knew
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she had a nice drink in the
fridge and I just kind of Pop as
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we call it from up.
North nice.
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Kind of Pop.
She gets her through the day.
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You're a genuinely gets every
day.
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Just like some people think I
want a glass of red wine later
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or some people who smoke this
one, a cigarette Tommy, I'll
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borrow my advice is chocolate,
that kind of thing.
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Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
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Have ice is a can of caffeine
free or Diet Coke and I was just
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like yeah.
I mean it's Just something that
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you enjoy and it's those little
things that get you through
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today in any way, linking back
to last week about how much I
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drink.
So, we're out in Canterbury.
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Okay, we head out for dinner.
We're going for drinks after.
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But during dinner it's the kind
of place that says cocktails,
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right?
And I was driving so I drove it
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about half an hour away from
where we live.
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So I was driving that night and
I was I wasn't drinking
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obviously so I was like, I don't
worry about it, I'll take a few,
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I just wasn't feeling up for it
in terms of getting drunk or
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anything like that.
So yeah, I took everyone.
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We went there.
We had ordered dinner, I think
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we've had dinner actually.
Yeah, we've had dinner.
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We were waiting between dinner
and dessert and a way to come
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back and say, oh, I need more
drinks.
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So I said, oh yeah, sure, could
we get some more water for the
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table, you know, those classic
big jugs in the middle?
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Yeah, fill up.
And and they bring round glasses
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for everyone and then you kind
of you order your drink as well.
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Don't try not to pour the ice in
your one because it's annoying.
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It, smashes it.
Yes, it's classic etiquette.
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Yeah, everyone knows that name
so they just get a glass of tap
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water there and then you might
top it up with your own drink.
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And on the side.
But I just wanted water because
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I wasn't drinking but everyone
else starts ordering these
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really fancy cocktails and your
cocktails are like in these
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places.
They come in these fancy.
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Big jugs and jars.
Don't know, some really tall
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ones with this fancy or ornate
decoration on the side.
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The tops all decorated and then
some short ones that look kind
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of unique.
Anyway he came back over and he
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was handing out cocktails to
everyone around me.
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So give give the person opposite
me a cocktail person.
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Next to me a cocktail other
person, a cocktail and then
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because I'd ask for the tap
water.
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Anyone who wasn't having another
drink, he kind of put the tap
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water big, massive vessel of
Tamlyn to down in front of me
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and I just wasn't thinking, I
was just like oh there's my
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drink.
So I picked up this massive
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glass support this huge jug.
That was with a whole table and
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I just started drinking.
And honestly I just turned and
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was like almost like a goddess.
Like, I've done something
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horrible.
I was just here honestly with
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pouring into my mouth and I
realized last out everywhere,
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but it I just couldn't stop
laughing.
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So it just sums up.
Oh, one and a half litres of
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water, that must be my own some
normal size for my cocktail.
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Did you did you not realize but
it did you do it on purpose to
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make them laugh?
Or did you genuinely just think
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it was a short trip?
No, I promise you.
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I jet, that's why it was so
funny because I almost spat it
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out.
When I realized when everyone
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staring at me, like, what are
you doing?
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The fact I couldn't lift that.
With one hand, I had to put my
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hand underneath the bottom.
It's like my mouth was, like,
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what point did?
I think this wasn't wasn't
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normal plastic Dylan, classic,
Dylan right there.
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And I had flashbacks to all of
the the memes on Twitter but no
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are from your famous TV
appearance.
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Oh, don't dude, I was gonna did
you bring that?
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Sorry, I were you trying to
segue into a thing where you
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bring up your, your TV
appearances?
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I don't know that.
It just so happened that for the
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last two weeks I've been talking
about how much they drink.
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And you haven't mentioned it.
I just, that is fine.
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Yeah, because the means, the
means of reaching.
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What was that, show that your
honor was not?
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Was it?
It's not very big show.
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It was, what was it?
Who likes to eat?
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Who likes to be a?
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What's it called?
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the meaning of all?
That's the one that will show
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Chris down goes down.
Yeah, that's right.
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You're Chris Tarrant.
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I'd flashbacks to all those
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memes.
About all those people saying
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how much I drink water on the
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Honestly.
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didn't was on TV multiple times
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And I'm sure he'll bring up
another episode because you'd
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have to talk about it.
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In that bad.
That you know what, they don't
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know about that.
You're not Dylan.
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Moving on because you've had
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All right, you've been on even
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Now there is one big reason that
I think you've been stressed
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this week.
Dylan I was little bit stressed
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about it as well and that is the
any you meeting that happened
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earlier in the week.
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part of that Zoom call where the
any you called a kind of
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last-minute get-together that I
think there's like 20 30
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thousand members.
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hours of them putting out and it
was to discuss The I feel bad
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even calling app a deal, as if
that's what it was, this offer,
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in quote, heavy quotations.
This offer from the government
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after talking, with the any
finally, sitting down to talk
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with the any you about, you
know, everything that the
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teachers are striking for
including teacher pay, including
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teacher well-being.
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And I say stressful, because I
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It didn't remotely go to plan.
It was the it was an
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embarrassment.
It was Shameful, you can say,
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how did you feel about it?
Dylan, go invent.
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It's, you know, it's really
funny because every single week
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I'm sure we have the
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conversation.
When we say, we can't keep just
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venting, I getting annoyed on
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This week is unavoidable.
I did a quick poll and
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Instagram, anyone follows us on
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pod, sleep, sleep, repeat
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see that I put out.
It described this payoff for in
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one word and some of the replies
were amazing.
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Yeah.
It's just a complete waste of
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time and genuinely for, you
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terms that you don't, we don't
feel appreciated by the
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government because the end of
the government are our bosses,
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right?
You know, the Department of
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Education.
Our seniors in this in this
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situation because we're a public
sector worker, and you never
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really feel truly, you know,
taken seriously or appreciated
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in the role and when you saw
those leaked messages, we talked
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about a couple of weeks ago, you
know what their real Opinions on
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Hazard.
So not we're not under any
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illusion that they hate us.
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They don't appreciate those at
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But for the first time seeing
like just seeing something in
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writing like that which was just
so offensive and I really hate
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the word offensive, I hate it
because it's so meaningless.
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Isn't it to say, oh, I'm
offended, but it was so
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offensive and it was.
So I used the word derisory.
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It was, it was just an insult.
It was a genuine jab because
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for, for just for so many
reasons, I know there's a few
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things I want to say.
Pin on Hayden and I'll be very
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quick because on a boy, you all
the details.
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If you're interested in this,
you already know the details,
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don't you.
But you know, teachers were
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offered a four and a half
percent pay rise.
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We don't need to tell you how,
that's not even close to
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matching inflation, but that the
big things weren't even that
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like we always say, the two
biggest things for me, were the
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pay rise was unfunded meaning
that the four and a half
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percent.
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would have to be found from
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don't have the money.
That's the point of A striking.
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It needed to be given as extra
money.
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And the other thing was talked
about a pay Gap, you know, you
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discuss pay gaps in, you know,
the gender pay gap.
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For example is a big thing that
everyone talks about where, you
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know, male and female workers
doing the same work, getting
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paid less right.
And there's that whole
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discussion, it's a huge thing.
This is the most blatant pay gap
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of ever seen.
When you compare, the pay that
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English teachers get for being
teachers and the pay they get in
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Scotland and Nails.
And it was just such a damning
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table that genuinely made me
feel worthless.
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I'm I hope I'm not exaggerating.
I'm going on now Hayden, so I'll
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wrap up and then I'll get you.
Give you your talk in a minute,
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but just to just to put into
context for everyone, it's the
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same job where teachers right
teachers.
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Let's just say teachers in a
primary school, okay?
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If you're 6 years experience,
Hayden and I have just gone past
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that we're a bit above that but
let's just say a six years
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experience talking about wanting
to keep teachers retained in the
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profession, right.
That's one of the big things
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that a minute retentions
Dreadful.
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So trying to kind of dangle a
carrot to keep retention higher.
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If you've been teaching for six
years, there is an almost 10,000
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pounds difference in your pay
between being a six-year teacher
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in England compared to a
six-year teacher in Scotland.
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Now, on its own enough to get
the blood boiling in, what, in
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what way are we less valuable in
what way are our children less
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deserving or professionals?
Who are treated in a way that's
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fair.
And Equitable, and You know,
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compensated for the work they
do, and then there's just so
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many layers to it.
I mean good on Scotland for
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doing it.
And I know it's gotten have
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always been paid more, but it's
same in Wales, not as much.
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But there's another jump in
Wales and just to talk about our
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point of view.
We live in the southeast of
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England, the average house price
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hugely hugely increased.
And we're getting, we're getting
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that 75% of the pay of a
Scottish teacher.
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It's just so many ways that
we're just being stretched.
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And I just, I think I truly
think that that kind of fed into
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my feelings this week whether
it's subconsciously or not.
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We're just every single thing I
was doing now, writing parents
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evening, comments, looking at
looking forward to writing
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reports over the holidays,
whether it was just sat there
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marking my books.
I just thought I'm being taken
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for a mug, and I'm doing this
work at such a lower rate, then
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people in my own country.
Well, yeah, Scotland is in this
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country.
With the United Kingdom, we are
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the same country.
I know they have devolved powers
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for education, but I said I
would stop going on, but you got
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it wrong.
I know it's corny word and it
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just, I, I'm glad because I
needed to say all that because I
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don't want to be dramatic but I
genuinely pushed me to the
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furthest I've ever felt to just
thinking.
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What is the point?
Hmm.
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I think you summarized that
quite well early on when you
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said worthless and I know that
Russia is an avid listener
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actually of our podcast.
He's one of one of a few few
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million.
Actually I think that sort of
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tune in weekly.
So Uh, she obviously, if you're
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listening to this, you heard it
here, right?
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He feels worthless because he's
worth way more.
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If he just moves a few hours up
north, there's in Scotland, you
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know, there's an exact exact
same job and you can get house,
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half the price.
Where's the incentive?
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That's what it's all about.
You know, we're, we're simple
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beings humans, you know, if you
take us on a large scale and you
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look at the average, human is a
pretty simple equation.
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If you want to attract really
skilled, amazing, inspirational
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professionals that, you know, to
be that good.
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I Clean means they can probably
get many other jobs as well in
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other professions and other
places that are well paid,
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you're not going to attract
those people.
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It does it just that's just a
simple as it were, as it is.
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You know, people like to say
things like oh, you know, not
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teaching for the money, are we?
It's at?
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Yeah.
Well, the money is an incentive
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of, isn't it?
You know, there are going to be
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some great teachers in this
country who will quit this year
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because I like, what's the
point?
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I feel worthless.
I'm overworked and I can just go
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work in this industry because
I'm actually a really high
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skilled professional and I can
get be paid double.
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So, why wouldn't I?
I've got, I've got food.
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Upon the table got bills to pay,
you know, I just, I just think
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it's insulting exactly.
That the payoff was insulting.
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Yeah.
And at want to come in and
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exactly what you're saying there
because that's the point, isn't
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it?
And the government I know you're
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listening really like Hayden
said we're in Three households.
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Now, by the way mine yours and
Richie, I don't know that he
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might be getting this pool
installed.
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Yeah and sorry just really
quick.
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If anyone's listening in the
future Rishi was a prime
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minister for a little while.
In this country it's probably
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not probably nine power if
you're listening to the Future.
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Probably nobody.
But you know, just say, you
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know, bit context for history.
He was one of the many Prime
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ministers in this in this short
era one of about 20.
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What's the other one?
Tory, government or EI?
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Mrs. Liz, at least she was in
for a while.
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Liz wasn't that one?
Who is Thompson?
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It's John Cena.
This one says I said on some
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this Forest rustlers and it's
Johnson.
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Boris.
Yeah, what's that one?
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Who's that bloke?
Who kind of offered a brexit
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referendum?
Just to get voted in, get his
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name and then the weight didn't,
the didn't, the brexit
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referendum.
Go go, go awry.
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And he just didn't he just leave
us either.
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What was he?
This I can't move.
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He was the guy that completely
lied about everything.
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I know that was, you know, that
was all of them.
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Sorry, that was Oliver.
Yeah, anyway, yeah, and my point
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is the the sad thing is this is
the The sad truth.
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This is the sad thing about
politics in general and I know
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I'm grandstanding here and I
know sometimes we got about
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politics and people like I want
to hear the funny stories about
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the kids are coming.
They're coming.
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I come on.
But you know, I think this is,
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you know, this is important
because the way they treat
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teaching staff, all of us
support staff as well.
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Who by the way, just didn't
reach the threshold who
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absolutely deserve as much for
Rises.
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We do it is constantly a
question of how little can they
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get away with?
And I've made this point
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multiple times to you, and
probably on this podcast before
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never ever in politics.
Is it what's morally?
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Correct.
It's never, what do I stand for
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and what do I want to give in
terms of what people deserve or
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what people are worth?
It's never ever.
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That's never the question.
The question is, how little can
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I give and still maintain
support of my people who are
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going to vote for me?
The best thing I ever heard
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about teachers is, if you're a
Tory, okay, you're a
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conservative Titian, why do you
care about giving us anything?
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We're never going to vote for
you.
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Anyway, the amount of the amount
of people who vote conservative
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in teaching will be minuscule,
right?
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And so from the conservative
point of view, there's no worse
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than giving us a good pay offer.
There isn't there is worth in
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giving the NHS a good payoff.
It because the NHS is held in
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such a high, you know, standard,
but by the people of the country
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who will vote, conservative
teaching, doesn't have that.
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There's no incentive there to
make this a big big priority as
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Seen for the last 12 years, they
are constantly thinking.
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What's the minimum I can get
away with to make the Union's
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00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:28,400
look like they are holding the
country to Ransom to make
448
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,700
teachers that bad also are
saying well we offered billions
449
00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:34,400
of pounds saying, billions of
pounds means nothing.
450
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,400
Does it when it's a tiny
percentage compared to
451
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,700
inflation?
It's just embarrassing.
452
00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:42,500
I can't wait for them to be
kicked out and I hope it happens
453
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,600
very soon and then maybe I won't
have a stressful week.
454
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,600
And yeah, I'm going to wrap up
this.
455
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,000
Any you conversation with?
Just One Last point I'd like to
456
00:20:50,008 --> 00:20:53,300
make and it's the point in which
I know for a fact we both
457
00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:56,500
disengaged completely from the
meeting when we heard this fact.
458
00:20:56,500 --> 00:21:00,200
Okay, so I'm actually going to
read off of a screen shot from
459
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,300
that presentation.
Okay.
460
00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:04,400
So something the any you put to
the government.
461
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,000
One of the many statements that
caught in their tour discussions
462
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,800
was this, it was we want a
requirement for each school to
463
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,900
have a work-life balance policy.
Now, if you listen to our
464
00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:17,100
podcast you know there's an
issue with work-life balance.
465
00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:21,800
Alright, in this Ian, which is
time costed and negotiated with
466
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,000
school reps.
Hopefully, you're listening to
467
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,600
our thinking.
Yeah, perfectly reasonable.
468
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,600
That's how all jobs work ever.
Any new initiative.
469
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,600
Balanced against an activity.
That is stopped in order to
470
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,800
safeguard teachers against
increased and excessive
471
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,700
workload, not workload,
excessive workload.
472
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,300
That was a statement.
They put forward, I read that
473
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,100
and I thought, okay, they've
denied all the payoff is done
474
00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:44,400
with the dead.
An idol, this have denied all
475
00:21:44,408 --> 00:21:47,400
there, but at least this one is
something that no human being
476
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,200
can disagree with.
Hmm.
477
00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:52,900
Do we pay people for the work?
They do and stop piling stuff on
478
00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:56,100
top with no nothing taking away
or no extra pay.
479
00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:58,700
What does the government say?
They didn't just say, no, they
480
00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:02,200
said that's an unreasonable.
Offer that was their word
481
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,600
unreasonable.
At that point I was just like,
482
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,200
cool.
Don't care.
483
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,400
Then I don't care what they
think.
484
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,200
I don't care what they say.
They clearly just don't want to
485
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,600
give the Union's.
Anything they want to show the
486
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,400
public that, hey, look, this the
unions are so bad.
487
00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:17,800
They can't get anything right
with that degree of anything.
488
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,200
They say that point.
I was just, I just wanted to
489
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,500
scream and I just, I think I
just left the meeting tons.
490
00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:23,600
If that was like cool, don't
care.
491
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,500
There's enough, there's no point
telling me anything because it's
492
00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:27,000
clearly going to be no positive
outcome here.
493
00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:30,600
But yeah, so maybe that's why
your best rep I'm stressed now.
494
00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:33,500
Thanks Dylan.
Maybe I'll take it from you
495
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,300
there.
Take other know.
496
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,400
No, you've really been a little
bit.
497
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,100
It's just, it's just
infuriating.
498
00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:41,200
I mean, they grandstand like
they want to engage in talks and
499
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,300
discussions but if they can't
even do free stuff like that,
500
00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:48,000
which would genuinely not cost
anything and we're just oh I'm
501
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,100
going to start going into one
again.
502
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:50,000
This is the last thing I'm
saying.
503
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,900
I'm so sorry.
I know you want to wind up there
504
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:54,900
but it does link into ofsted it
links into that huge pressure.
505
00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:59,000
We feel right because as soon as
they put a policy in place like
506
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,000
that, it justifies everything
that comes as a result.
507
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,300
So if ofsted come in and say,
oh, You know, your history.
508
00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:07,800
Curriculum is coming along, but
actually it's missing x, y, and
509
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,700
Zed.
If it's a policy built in the
510
00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:12,900
school can point to and say,
yeah, we know that this is going
511
00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:15,200
to be a long process because
we're focusing on this.
512
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,500
And this right now that's taking
up this amount of our teachers
513
00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:19,200
time.
This is all we can afford.
514
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,400
This is all week, the pace we
can move at, we're not going to
515
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,600
try and do 74 things at once.
We've actually got this costed
516
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,600
way of actually going about this
job like a real professional.
517
00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:30,700
And not just saying, let's just
do it all right now because I'm
518
00:23:30,708 --> 00:23:34,000
worried and it would it's just a
small thing.
519
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,800
And and you're absolutely right
Hayden.
520
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,600
We said the same thing didn't to
each other just like cool.
521
00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:39,600
There's no point.
There's no point reading on.
522
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,400
There's, if that's the level
where out that, they say no to
523
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,800
that.
We're never going to get
524
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,100
anything reasonable from the no,
that's not from this government
525
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,300
and like you said doing
everything at once.
526
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,000
A lot of the teachers,
especially if you're an
527
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,500
experienced teacher listening to
this, I know, I just know that
528
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,300
you're thinking.
Yeah, and we do all this stuff
529
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:55,800
at once, and in five years,
guess what?
530
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,100
We change.
All of it again, and then in 15
531
00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:00,100
years, when we change all again,
it happens to be the thing we
532
00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:03,700
did 20, 20 years before, and
it's just that cycle of endless
533
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:06,800
endless.
Excessive unnecessary work.
534
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,800
I see what before we move on to
the next section.
535
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,100
I'm actually going to tie in.
So one of our sections with this
536
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:14,800
because you know what, that was
a little bit - and I'm going to
537
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,800
jump in with toxic story.
All right.
538
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,000
Just something again, I've seen
on The Forum because I think it
539
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,500
ties in and then you know what?
Guys keep this in.
540
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:24,100
Because after this we're gonna
have some funny stories and even
541
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,200
a nice heartwarming story as
well about teaching.
542
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,900
We're going to focus on the
positives and I reckoned deep
543
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:31,300
down, I reckon deep down.
There's many of you out there
544
00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:33,300
who secretly love a little moan,
don't you?
545
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:35,200
Yeah, I have a little moment.
I'm so let's have it.
546
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,100
Toxic we all do.
So this is again, a classic says
547
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:40,100
so many forums online.
I love reading from because I
548
00:24:40,108 --> 00:24:44,300
get some gold from them.
So this one is someone writing
549
00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:47,200
in a very experienced very, very
experienced teacher.
550
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,100
That's we're talking like nearly
40 years and they were talking
551
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,700
about how their dads in a
different profession completely
552
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,300
out of teaching and after 25
years and their profession they
553
00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:00,600
would just rewarded with like
this and holiday but basically
554
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,200
that's like an almost like thank
you so much for literally
555
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,300
dedicating. 25 years of your
life to this profession.
556
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,900
We really appreciate you.
Go on holiday is on us, right?
557
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:12,500
And this person was saying,
yeah, cool.
558
00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:15,200
After nearly 40 Years of
teaching, I was given a support
559
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,500
plan work.
You know, 40 years experience,
560
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:23,000
support Blanchett.
I'm I just I am very hesitant to
561
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000
believe that someone that's been
teaching for 40 years.
562
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,800
Doesn't doesn't have any clue
how to teach that to the point
563
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,300
where they have to be up Beyond
a support plan.
564
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,000
I just I don't know, makes me
makes me feel weird.
565
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,500
They said the day their
happened.
566
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:36,500
I was really upset.
Obviously, the department
567
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:37,800
sister.
They go home.
568
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,900
Then if you work in a school you
might know this happens.
569
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:45,900
If you're off work for a bit.
There's often like a return to
570
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:47,800
work interview that you have to
have.
571
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:50,100
It's just the basically make
sure you're fit for work
572
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:51,600
essentially, if you've been ill
or whatever.
573
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,500
So, in their return to work
interview, they were told that
574
00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:58,500
them being off had triggered an
attendance concern.
575
00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:01,600
So they then had to have a
meeting because their attendance
576
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,400
wasn't good enough and that
triggered like another.
577
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Like all we have to have a Ting.
Find out why you're off so much
578
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,200
which they thought was a joke.
So, so, generally did they just
579
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,400
handed in her notice?
I'm done with this.
580
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200
I'm done with this ridiculous
and Ali.
581
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600
What the sad that's gone.
As you can see, the end of the
582
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,100
story is that they were told
that, even though they handed
583
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:24,400
their notice and they're leaving
in a few months, they've got to
584
00:26:24,408 --> 00:26:26,600
stay on the support support plan
until the end.
585
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:28,500
And that was the final straw
that person.
586
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,600
So that's kind of a what the
saddest thing about that story
587
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,500
is And I know this is true,
okay, that's exactly what the
588
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,300
school wanted.
Patina.
589
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,000
That's exactly what the school
wanted.
590
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:43,600
If you've been you've been
teaching for 40 years, right?
591
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,800
You are not cheap.
We know School budgets are
592
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,000
absolutely on a string.
Bet.
593
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,600
What's the word?
Just made honest ring, bear.
594
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,800
They're on a string blaring.
I do you mean like thread there
595
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,000
on whatever it's called?
No no, no, no.
596
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,500
I was saying there on the bear
of a string.
597
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:02,400
There are the Pharisees like a
grizzly bear.
598
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:05,000
Yeah, there were no Christians.
There is something.
599
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:07,400
That's is this what I mean?
Budgets are like a grizzly, bear
600
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,100
trying to balance on a string.
Heretic carry on.
601
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:11,100
Yeah.
It's the imagine that really
602
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,200
hard, really tricky to balance.
Really tricky to pull off.
603
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:17,500
All right?
See exactly anyway but it's a
604
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:21,200
stretch tight.
Nice and like a Bearskin, the
605
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:22,600
almost like.
Okay.
606
00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:26,600
Like it when it's angry but like
a bear skin when you type a
607
00:27:26,608 --> 00:27:29,300
string around it mmm-hmm.
Yeah.
608
00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:30,400
Car.
The imagery are crazy.
609
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,200
Yeah, please carry on though
because I'm a poet.
610
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,300
My words.
The school.
611
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,300
The school will not be crying
about this because they can they
612
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:40,500
can replace the teacher now with
Much less experience and
613
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:43,400
crucially less expensive,
teacher moldable.
614
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:51,100
And but moldable is a word that
multiple look also, listen,
615
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,700
don't get me wrong.
Some unbelievable need a
616
00:27:53,708 --> 00:27:55,700
qualified teachers.
Some absolutely fantastic
617
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,100
teachers and stuff, but all I'm
saying is the saddest thing
618
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:02,700
about that story is look, let's
not pretend, by the way, I want
619
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:05,200
to make sure we give balance
views in this podcast, because I
620
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,700
know Haider, we are very good at
just backing each other up and
621
00:28:07,708 --> 00:28:10,900
get into a cycle.
Just just because you're
622
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:15,300
experienced doesn't necessarily
mean that you're always 10/10
623
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:16,800
fantastic at the job.
Right?
624
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:18,700
Clearly.
And just because your
625
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:21,700
inexperience doesn't mean that
naturally you're the worst
626
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,700
teacher in the world that that's
not true.
627
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:27,100
Of course it's not.
But there is a level, exactly,
628
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:30,300
like you said working in a
school for 40 years.
629
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:35,300
Support plan.
Just it it's just a red flag.
630
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,000
I think maybe there's a way a
support plan can be put in
631
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,900
place, which is actually really
helpful.
632
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,800
I reckon there's a way to do it.
Calling at support support plan,
633
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,700
probably isn't the best way to
go about it.
634
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:49,500
From the start probably it might
be sound quite condescending but
635
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:51,700
there's ways to support your
staff and some staff need
636
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:54,400
supporting.
But just to just, you know,
637
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,000
going off work because you were
told to go off work because
638
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,400
you're on the support plan and
then coming back.
639
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,700
And I'm asking you why you are
off work and an absolutely
640
00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:03,000
meeting.
Yeah, what-what are you doing
641
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
Phil rubbish?
Yeah, it's a way but it's you're
642
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,700
right though because the whole
support plan is like
643
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:08,900
objectively, it should be a good
thing, really?
644
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:10,800
It's like hey we notice you're
struggling.
645
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,100
This is what I imagine.
It should be.
646
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Hey, we know struggling engine,
your job.
647
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,300
We really care about you.
We really value.
648
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:16,900
You.
Is there anything we can do.
649
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:18,500
We're going to put a support
plan together.
650
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:20,800
We're going to put more time
into you to help.
651
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,900
You is only training, you need.
What can we do?
652
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,900
But in reality is I mean it
might be in some places but the
653
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:29,000
ones we hear of it has such
negative connotations, doesn't
654
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,500
it's more like haha Ah, we put
you on a support plan, that
655
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:35,500
means your rubbish.
That's like the feeling you get
656
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:36,900
from it.
It's like and what it means is,
657
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:38,500
we're going to come and observe
you loads.
658
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,700
And it's like, it's that it's
that support, is that support.
659
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:44,400
And here's the thing, right?
Any teacher out there?
660
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:46,600
Let's not pretend I'm going to
say it because I'm sure
661
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,400
everyone's thinking it, no one
ever wants to say it, if someone
662
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000
came and observed, you every
single lesson or, you know,
663
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,700
twice a week from, for a whole
time, there's, you can't give
664
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:59,200
consistent lessons that attend
our tents impossible.
665
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,600
It's absolutely impossible.
There's going to be Things as a
666
00:30:01,608 --> 00:30:03,400
leader.
If you go in, and they'll always
667
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,800
be something.
Even the best teacher in the
668
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,600
world that you could pick up.
Even if the teacher is doing a
669
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,500
fantastic job, they'll always be
something cuz I know for a fact,
670
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:13,800
I've never finished the lesson
and thought, wow, I would have
671
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,300
done, absolutely nothing
different if I did it again,
672
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,800
there is always something that
you could do different to
673
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,400
improve in one way or another.
So the fact that when you're on
674
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,700
a support plan, it's almost it's
almost like a self-perpetuating
675
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,100
thing unless it's really
targeted to a very specific
676
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,000
issue that you sit down and
professionally.
677
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:34,300
Talk about beforehand and you
really Target that one thing
678
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:35,700
perhaps, behavior management,
right?
679
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,300
And perhaps, it's baby
management that this person
680
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:41,000
struggles with, and that's the
Target and that's what you focus
681
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,400
on during these observations in
these meetings.
682
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,200
If it's just an open-ended
support plan.
683
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:49,000
It's just a self-perpetuating
thing because you'll go in one
684
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,600
day, but old Pace was a bit off
today and that'll be their next
685
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,800
Target.
They'll go away their work on
686
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,300
their paste.
I have another observation in
687
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:56,900
the weeks time Pace has improved
but all because the pace has
688
00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:59,600
improved actually some children
weren't quite getting it.
689
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,900
And, you know, you need to work
on how you For your support
690
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:04,600
staff and how you support your
lowers and then the next time
691
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,900
they go in that's what they're
looking at.
692
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:07,900
And actually because you put
more effort now into supporting
693
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:10,800
your lower Achievers, or the
tops won't stretch this much.
694
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,100
That's another problem and
you're going to find things as
695
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:14,600
much as you want to find a
thing.
696
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,000
And that's what frustrates me
about support plans sometimes
697
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,300
and this kind of culture of, you
know, trying to find out where
698
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:27,800
people need to improve
constantly constantly, without
699
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,900
giving the balance of praise and
saying you're doing a good job
700
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:32,800
and let them go on with it.
It's just, it can turn into a
701
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,000
bit of what feels like a Witch
Hunt from your point of view.
702
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,300
If you're the one on the
receiving end of it.
703
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,500
So, his interest interesting
perspective that I want to see
704
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:43,200
your thoughts on now, teach
unlike other jobs, there is a
705
00:31:43,208 --> 00:31:46,500
bit of a perky teaching in terms
of we're really, really well
706
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:50,000
protected.
In terms of, we can't just be
707
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
fired.
So you can imagine in some
708
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000
private organizations if you're
not performing, there might be
709
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,000
some rungs to go through before
that but it is as simple as if
710
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,700
you're if you're not doing the
thing they can they could just
711
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:02,400
get rid of you, you know, you
You've you're fired.
712
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,000
You know, that's it.
You gotta go get another job.
713
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:06,300
That doesn't happen in teaching.
There are there are lots of
714
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:08,100
protections where you can't just
be fired.
715
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,600
Basically.
And I've heard a lot of people
716
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,500
say, over the years and this is
perhaps why support plans have
717
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:17,300
got to this point, right, where
they become very negative of, if
718
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,600
a school is having trouble with
a teacher because, like you
719
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,300
said, we're not all perfect.
We're not going to be great.
720
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:24,300
There are going to be some
people who aren't suited to look
721
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:26,800
towards the jobs for whatever
reason just like there are in
722
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,800
every profession ever.
And there's this idea that
723
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,200
support plans have kind of
become this way of cool.
724
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,300
It's the only way to get rid of
them.
725
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800
So what we'll do is we'll
basically ridicule them will
726
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,300
just make them feel rubbish, but
with this system that's kind of
727
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:43,800
universally accidentally become
the thing.
728
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
The system of this is how we get
rid of teachers.
729
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,600
Now, I don't know.
What did you think that's a
730
00:32:48,608 --> 00:32:50,800
thing?
But from what I've heard from
731
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,900
colleagues and and you know,
that people literally talking
732
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:58,000
about it, you make a really good
point and, you know, we are
733
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,800
here.
I'm Here to insult or degrade
734
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,600
teachers in any way whatsoever.
But what you've said is a fact
735
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,300
you take in a cross-section, a
huge cross-section of the
736
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,100
population.
There will be some people who
737
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:15,200
aren't up to the job and will
need support and or in the end
738
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:17,000
aren't suitable to fulfill the
role.
739
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,700
Absolutely, right.
And it's good that we've got
740
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,500
protection because, you know,
we're human beings at the end of
741
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:25,100
day and we like that.
So I really I get where you're
742
00:33:25,108 --> 00:33:28,600
coming from, I think it
absolutely anecdotally.
743
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,900
Is a thing.
What you're saying?
744
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:37,500
The problem arises where look
support plans were never just
745
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,700
introduced to be horrible.
I'm sure things like support
746
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:44,800
plans, you as a leader.
It's important that if your
747
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,000
staff needs support to to
achieve the targets, let's just
748
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800
say, I'm talking a very generic
terms in terms of teaching.
749
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,400
If your staff needs support,
it's your job to put things in
750
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,600
place to help them get there and
that's actively good management.
751
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,500
And if you do that, I think has
to tie in with lots of things.
752
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:05,300
Though, I've heard from from
people listening to the podcast,
753
00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:09,199
I've heard them say, oh, I
really relate to what you're
754
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,699
saying in my workplace, that
isn't even teaching.
755
00:34:11,699 --> 00:34:14,900
So I think this is a pro out for
at all professions where they
756
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:18,000
just say, for example, this
person I was talking to he was
757
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,300
talking about how he had a boss.
Who was unbelievable, because he
758
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,000
just treated him like a human
being, right?
759
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:26,400
It was like and he gave him
praise.
760
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,500
It sounds so silly, but we are
simple.
761
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,800
Mozart me.
And if all you're getting from
762
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,400
the top is, here's how you can
improve, here's how you can
763
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,300
improve.
Here's how you can improve and
764
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,800
that kind of attitude of you can
always, always, always get
765
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,300
better, which is true.
But if that's all you're hearing
766
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:46,600
ever, that's going to have a
massively detrimental effect and
767
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,500
I think support plans, kind of
tie into that culture of, you
768
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,400
can always be better, you can
always be better.
769
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,100
And if you're just constantly
being told that to the point
770
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:55,699
where actually okay at this
point, you're going to be on the
771
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:57,800
support plan.
I think the way you do it is
772
00:34:57,808 --> 00:34:59,000
super important.
Aunt.
773
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
I think it would be really
stupid to say support plans are
774
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
just a bad thing.
Yeah I think the context is
775
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,600
really important.
I think the way it's delivered
776
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,000
is really important.
I think just treating staff like
777
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,100
they are human in terms of that,
you know, whether they're doing
778
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:17,800
a good job or not.
If they're in that school at
779
00:35:17,808 --> 00:35:21,600
7:30 and leaving at 5:30 and
planning at the weekend, whether
780
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,500
you think it's good planning or
bad planning is absolutely
781
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:26,900
irrelevant to the fact they are
going above and beyond in this
782
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:30,000
job whether or whether or not
You deem the quality to be
783
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,900
sufficient or not.
That deserves praise.
784
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:36,200
It deserves respect.
And I just think you have to go
785
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,800
about it in a way which is just
Humane and it's just going to
786
00:35:39,808 --> 00:35:44,300
treat people like they are they
deserve to be treated and I
787
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,400
think your performance is
separate to your ability to
788
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,200
treat someone in a good way.
You talking about, praise
789
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,600
reminds me of a practice that
you and I both use in lots of
790
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,800
situations that could be talking
to a child.
791
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,300
It could be honestly just
talking to Another colleague at
792
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:01,000
school, particularly know, we
lead math.
793
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,100
So we might be giving feedback
to somebody or even talking to
794
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:07,300
the parents of children and our
schools and that is the positive
795
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,700
sandwich approach and it works,
doesn't it?
796
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:13,700
It's this idea of if you've got
something that you could you
797
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:16,600
might deem as - at least from
their point of view, okay?
798
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,200
They might take it in a bad way,
whether it's negative or not,
799
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,400
maybe it's just a bit of support
or a bit of feedback, wrap it in
800
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,500
positive comments, wrap it in
Praise, you're absolutely right,
801
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,700
you know, it shouldn't just be
support, you can do this, to be
802
00:36:27,707 --> 00:36:29,000
better.
You can do this be It's more
803
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000
like, wow, you're doing so good
at this.
804
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,100
I'm really proud of that.
Thank you.
805
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:33,200
Can you teach me a bit about
that?
806
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,900
I'd love to learn more from you.
I did notice however this
807
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:37,600
bubble, right, and then you
might wrap, you know, my
808
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,700
building, your your comment
where you're giving us feedback,
809
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:43,700
or you think they require some
support, then you finish it
810
00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:45,000
again with.
But yeah, I really want to
811
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,300
reiterate this point or another
Point altogether.
812
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:50,600
Another bit of positive praise
and it's such a simple strategy
813
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:53,600
but it doesn't get people's
backs up as much and it shows
814
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,300
them that you do actually care
about other stuff.
815
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:58,900
You do value, the good things
they do as well because unless
816
00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:00,800
you say it was you know we don't
always know it.
817
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Do we were like you said, we're
very simple beings.
818
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000
We take things at face value a
lot and we like to hear that
819
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,600
we're doing well in things and
not just try to assume that, you
820
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,700
know, we're doing well or
whatever it is, but you're
821
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:12,800
right.
I wonder if anyone listening
822
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,900
you, if you, if you work in
teaching or not, have a think,
823
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:20,300
do you enjoy your job?
Is it something to you that
824
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:22,900
makes you happy?
And if it is, is it?
825
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,200
Because you have someone a
superior a boss or whatever it
826
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,700
is.
However your management works
827
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:30,800
who You feel good.
Do you have someone who gives
828
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,300
you praise as much as I support
as much as they offer you
829
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,200
support or feedback because I
reckon there's a, there's going
830
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,600
to be a correlation there, I
think.
831
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,000
Yeah.
And what you said, true.
832
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,100
And I think the biggest thing I
will say, Obviously, that's a
833
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,600
well-known kind of tactic, isn't
it?
834
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,100
The sandwich right here.
But I think there's two things.
835
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:52,800
We do differently that work even
better and they're kind of link
836
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,700
to the sandwich, right?
The first thing is genuinely,
837
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:59,000
meaning it like truly, meaning,
the positive things, You say,
838
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,800
it's not like we think.
Oh, what's two things?
839
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,800
We could just say and make
someone feel good.
840
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:05,600
It's always rooted in something
they've actually done or that's
841
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,500
actually very good, right?
And so when we, when you give
842
00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:11,400
that sandwich to someone, it's
like, oh my goodness unbeliev,
843
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,200
this was so good.
And then you kind of drop in
844
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,100
that thing, have a discussion
about it and let someone open up
845
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,100
a bit more.
But the other thing is, I'm
846
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:22,900
thinking of a wider sandwich
here, so you're saying, like, in
847
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:25,900
one situation, you kind of do
all three at once, right?
848
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:28,500
Mmm.
What I love to do and I hope I'm
849
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:30,800
It doing this just to my
colleagues.
850
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,300
Even Pete, not even people who
have my superiors or who I
851
00:38:33,308 --> 00:38:38,400
manage or anything like that.
I think giving Just Praise
852
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,400
sometimes monotone for the sake
of giving.
853
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,700
Praise is so powerful just to
say, you know, wow, what an
854
00:38:44,707 --> 00:38:46,700
amazing job, you know, as mass,
they too.
855
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,400
Might say that we, you know, we
walked through the school and
856
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:52,500
this year group, The checked, it
was amazing.
857
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,000
It was so good to walk through,
it felt it felt really good.
858
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,700
I've had bosses do it to me and
you well, They just a mass mass
859
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:01,700
is so good in this school.
You know, you walk through it,
860
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,700
it's just so consistent.
It's so simple, easy to follow
861
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:07,100
and that feels really good to
hear.
862
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:10,400
It feels, it feels so good.
And as a teacher, that's my
863
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,000
teaching style, as well, is
trying as much as possible to
864
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,200
Heap, praise and make the
children feel good.
865
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,700
And I'm not saying that we can
do that 100% of the time because
866
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:24,800
sometimes, you know, we get
frustrated as well, we're human.
867
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:28,800
But that's such a powerful tool
and I've noticed that my Of
868
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,200
notice.
Because I had this conversation
869
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,600
recently with a friend of mine,
how I could be playing golf with
870
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,900
my friends, and I'll find myself
doing it.
871
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,300
Our find myself getting gypped
dripping into that Persona.
872
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:41,300
Oh, what?
An unbelievable shot.
873
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,400
You know, I'll go over the top
almost as if I'm talking to one
874
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,100
of my kids in the classroom
because I just think it's a
875
00:39:48,107 --> 00:39:51,400
really positive way to be and it
feels good.
876
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:54,400
It does.
But say that it feels nice to
877
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,900
make people feel good.
That's the Crux of it, isn't it?
878
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
And it does it just does it?
Was nice.
879
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,900
That's one lesson.
I always tried to teach her
880
00:40:00,908 --> 00:40:03,600
children because not, it takes a
while to learn that.
881
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,100
I think I don't think that's
always natural, not for everyone
882
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,300
but showing the children, I
always like getting into a
883
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:12,100
situation where they get to be
nice to other people and letting
884
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:15,100
them see firsthand.
How nice that feels to be to be
885
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:18,000
kind, is such a lovely moment
with a Georgian the, you know,
886
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,700
when they sort of take it, maybe
make a term may be, there may be
887
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:22,400
a bit misbehaved and I really,
really young.
888
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,600
They haven't quite learned
social social skills yet.
889
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,600
Whatever.
That's always a nice moment.
890
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,300
Well, I'm glad we turned a more
positive tune.
891
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,900
Because we're going to play the
jingle.
892
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:31,500
And after that for the
listeners.
893
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,300
All right, we're going to have
some heartwarming stuff.
894
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,200
I'm going to I'm going to stop
in the jungle.
895
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:37,000
Yeah.
Instead of paying the jingle can
896
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,100
I just do it live?
I think you should do it live
897
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:40,300
every time.
Actually buddy.
898
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Well just this once we'll see
how it goes.
899
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,900
Pretty cool.
Boom.
900
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:48,600
Chick, boom.
Boom ch Okay, we're gonna find
901
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,500
the real jingle.
We'll be back in a second.
902
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:55,700
Thank you so much for listening
this far.
903
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:58,300
I hope you've enjoyed our
ranting, but also, you know, our
904
00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:00,200
Reflections on some of the
better sides of teaching.
905
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,100
We're now going to have another
hot one, we story this person
906
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:07,100
wrote in to us and my question
to to this forum was simple.
907
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,800
It was what's your what's your
favorite memories of teaching?
908
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:11,300
And this is what this person
wrote and they given us
909
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:14,400
permission to share it.
I had regular meetings with a
910
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,800
parent and other professionals
about a child who had lots of
911
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,700
attachment attachment issues.
I'm a senko, which is a special
912
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:23,900
educational needs coordinator.
So had never been his tea.
913
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,600
Teacher and he was in year one.
He'd never told anyone he loved
914
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,100
them in his whole life and
rarely said it back to his
915
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,400
parents when they initiated it
during covid.
916
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,000
I was in school with this child
and we were riding tricycles on
917
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,400
the playground.
As you do.
918
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,000
When we'd finished, we are
walking into school and he just
919
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,100
randomly said Mr. Cook, I love
you at six years old.
920
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,800
I was the first person he'd ever
said that, to without it being
921
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,700
response to someone else
initiating it I read that story
922
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:57,600
and it just made me feel all
tingly and you know what I
923
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,100
think, maybe when I read that, I
was feeling a bit stressed Dylan
924
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:05,400
because it just totally reminded
me of why I love teaching.
925
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,500
Because yes, there we have these
grapes and a podcast is a great
926
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:12,000
place to just moan and vent
because people will relate and
927
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,500
we know that's why we do it.
But you know what there are some
928
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,800
incredible size of this job that
I just don't think you'll get
929
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,700
from many professions in this
world.
930
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,000
And that is one of them both
those moments.
931
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:26,100
Can you imagine being a train
driver?
932
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,300
And someone gets on the train
that says I love you, train
933
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:29,300
driver.
Just what happened?
934
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:32,500
I reckon what happened.
Maybe if this guy, if this guy
935
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,700
was a train driver riding his
tricycle up and down the aisle
936
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:37,500
with a few whose favor little
passengers.
937
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:41,700
I reckon they might do but yeah,
you're right on average and it
938
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:43,600
just yeah, I don't know.
It made me want to have a bit of
939
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,500
a discussion about maybe some of
the the elements of teaching
940
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:49,200
that we do love.
And that one is for me, probably
941
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:53,300
definitely number one because
I've created some of those
942
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:57,400
special bonds over the years
with children, where you just
943
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,600
know that they value, the more
than just that teacher.
944
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,000
And they'll, you know, they'll
they'll remember you more, as
945
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,500
more than just our that was my
year.
946
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:06,900
Six teacher or whatever camera
is named because you really,
947
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,700
really, really, really tried to
develop a genuine bomb of them
948
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:14,400
particularly when you know like
that that child had issues
949
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,900
attachment issues.
So if we obviously a part of our
950
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:19,500
job is to recognize problems and
issues that children might be
951
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,700
having and try to help us best.
We can So helping genuinely
952
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:28,000
helping a child with a real-life
issue and seeing them come over,
953
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,200
get over that hurdle and then
have this kind of newfound
954
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,900
respect for you and maybe even
like that, you know, like them
955
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:37,500
that love for you because you've
helped them, it's just such a
956
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:40,700
special feeling and I will
treasure that forever where, you
957
00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:43,400
know, I might not be a teacher
in 40 years but it'll still be
958
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,000
something I look back on.
And think that was such a
959
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,500
genuinely nice pointed out of my
life, as a teacher.
960
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:52,800
I think what you said there's
really important because Whilst
961
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,000
it's sweet.
It's very easy.
962
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,500
Isn't it?
To look at that story and think,
963
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:58,200
wow, that teacher has done so
much for that child.
964
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,500
But you know, I think what we
can give from our point of view
965
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,600
is the perspective.
Show everyone how that child has
966
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,100
done a lot for that teacher.
Yeah, it's a two-way thing that
967
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,500
the feeling that that teacher
will have got from that knowing
968
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,000
the context that will stay of
the teacher forever.
969
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,800
Like you just said, and I think
that's something really
970
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,300
important as well as we grow in
this profession.
971
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:21,200
We're slowly getting to the
point where our students will be
972
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,600
adults or are adults already
actually some of them.
973
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,000
And, you know, I really hope
that we get some of those
974
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,500
Encounters in the street where I
see one of those children when I
975
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,000
was child, I used to teach and,
and it's already happening
976
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,900
because you get teenagers in the
street already and it feels
977
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:37,800
good.
And it goes back to that
978
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000
feel-good, feeling of the, the
building the relationships in
979
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000
the bonds with the children and
it doesn't even have to wait.
980
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,800
Sometimes this week, I play five
side football at the local
981
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000
football club.
And when I go to play
982
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,300
five-a-side football, there's a
lot of children's training going
983
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:53,500
on.
Its finishing around the time
984
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:56,300
that I start.
So every single week without
985
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:58,700
fail, I'll see, two three, four,
five, six.
986
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:02,100
Sometimes up to ten children, in
various age groups that I've
987
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:06,200
taught and I walked past them
and I can they'll even say it to
988
00:45:06,207 --> 00:45:09,600
me or I can hear the gospel
surprise and when it's positive
989
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,400
and when it's, you know, which
invariably is that they're just
990
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,100
excited to see me outside of
school.
991
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:18,800
It feels good.
I had one child this week like
992
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,500
looked shocked, you know, like
when you Someone you've not seen
993
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:23,900
in ages.
Even I saw them that day, they
994
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:27,000
just, you know, their face lit
up and, you know, whether it's
995
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,800
selfish, I don't know, I don't
care but it felt good and it's
996
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,300
that relationship of just, you
know, getting to know these
997
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:37,000
children in that way to just
feel like you're really helping
998
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,900
them, and if they feel excited
and happy to be in your
999
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:43,900
classroom, they're going to get
more out of the learning and
1000
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:45,500
that's something we live by,
isn't it?
1001
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:48,600
And, you know, I found myself
now grinning for the last 10
1002
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,000
minutes because that is exactly
what Teaching does to.
1003
00:45:51,008 --> 00:45:53,700
You is this unbelievable roller
coaster and it's the reason
1004
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:56,100
we're still doing it.
And, you know, earlier, I felt
1005
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:57,100
stressed.
I thought it came into your,
1006
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:58,000
that's it.
That's it.
1007
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,300
I've been pushed to the edge and
then now, I'm just like, oh,
1008
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:01,200
isn't it?
The best job?
1009
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,800
It's just crazy.
How much?
1010
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,500
It's flips so quickly.
I have multiple objects in my
1011
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:10,600
house from over the years of
teaching, right where they
1012
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,400
perhaps it's been a gift or
something from one of the
1013
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,500
children.
How now just just sitting here
1014
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:17,300
thinking like, oh yeah, actually
I've got a pillow in my bedroom
1015
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:21,900
that that was like stitched by a
child for about Years ago and
1016
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:24,000
they just wrote they just
stitched like Miss Tess into it
1017
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,000
and I was like that's such a
nice thing and that's that's
1018
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,500
always on my bed.
Now reminds me of that year.
1019
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:31,800
I've also got and I think you
know this one because there was
1020
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,900
a child that was really, really
special to me in my first year
1021
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:35,500
of teaching.
I think your first year means a
1022
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:38,400
lot to Any teacher.
And you know what I did I made I
1023
00:46:38,408 --> 00:46:40,700
made that Bond of Love.
Lots of those children because
1024
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:44,100
you live and breathe teaching in
your first year and still on my
1025
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:46,600
keys today.
My only key ring and it's been
1026
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,100
my only key ring since 8 years
ago is a little key ring.
1027
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,300
That says to mr.
S and it says from the child's
1028
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:56,600
name and every now and then I do
just look at that and it you
1029
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,100
know if I'm stressed because
teacher workload is just
1030
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:02,400
increasing, you know, the job is
becoming more stressful perhaps
1031
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,700
it's because I'm becoming more
used to it, whatever the reasons
1032
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:07,200
are but I do like to look at
that every now and then ago I
1033
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,000
had you know what that that
child was so special to me and I
1034
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000
hope I'll special to them.
I really really really hope that
1035
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,800
one day they will look back and
think I'm glad I had mrs.
1036
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,000
Stephens as a teacher that year
because he helped me for
1037
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,200
whatever it was and if you Was
then then that's it might, you
1038
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,900
know, I feel good.
I feel great or everything else.
1039
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:27,000
Just I forgotten of all the
stresses of that year.
1040
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,400
That's the one thing.
I remember, there's one other
1041
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,200
thing I want to just mention a
said that story about them
1042
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,400
riding tricycles in covid and
it's us.
1043
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,900
I wanted to share this story
View and Jog your memory because
1044
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:43,500
during covid, obviously
unbelievably stressful time at
1045
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:45,400
the time when covid broke a
tartar.
1046
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,600
Remember?
Now, isn't it really?
1047
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,500
When covid first, like broke out
and the first lockdown was
1048
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:52,400
announced three years.
Go by the way, now, God in March
1049
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,700
and the school Shut, it was so
nerve-racking and exclusive for
1050
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,500
the podcast.
When the schools shut that day
1051
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:03,200
that we went home and they were
sharp.
1052
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,900
I had a child.
This was, this is crazy.
1053
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,100
I had a child in front of me,
who because we were setting work
1054
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:16,100
online when the schools closed.
And I had this girl who at the
1055
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,100
end of the day, we were
dismissing them for what we knew
1056
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:20,600
was the last time when schools
were closing and it was
1057
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,200
emotional because as a teacher,
we felt like we were letting go
1058
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,800
of our babies, do not mean that.
Yeah.
1059
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,200
Our when we didn't know when
we're going to see them again
1060
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,800
and we it was this horrible
Health scare, you know.
1061
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:33,800
I can't put into words enough,
how traumatic that that kind of
1062
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,700
period of time was and always
remember because this girl just
1063
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:40,600
looked up for me.
And she just said, Oh, but I've
1064
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,600
got no internet.
I won't be able to do anything
1065
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:49,500
and I just died inside II was so
like it just cut me to the core
1066
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:53,900
like it was so horrible because
some children don't have
1067
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:56,200
internet.
That's that's just that's just a
1068
00:48:56,207 --> 00:48:58,200
fact.
And this child then would have
1069
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,000
no education potentially because
she wasn't a key worker child
1070
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:03,400
she would just go home, not have
access to the internet and I was
1071
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,400
just like, oh my God but
obviously the school, we could
1072
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,700
put things in place for her, but
in that moment, I just ran back
1073
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:09,500
inside.
Side.
1074
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:11,500
I just found her some old
textbooks from the cupboard,
1075
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:13,600
just completely random.
And I remember giving her like
1076
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,800
five and I'll just, I'll just
take this home.
1077
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:18,600
And this is number 2 for the
podcast.
1078
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,300
I got home that night, and I was
crying.
1079
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:23,300
And I about her like
specifically, triggered me,
1080
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,100
because I felt just horrible.
And this is what gets my back up
1081
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:31,600
when people like Boris and these
politicians come out, and try
1082
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,000
and defend, what they did in
terms of parties and having a
1083
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:36,700
having a laugh and having a
drink.
1084
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:40,500
And so it was just work and oh,
and That guy this is our Tory MP
1085
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,300
Michael Fabric.
And I think his name is who
1086
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,600
defended the party saying all
the teachers were doing in the
1087
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,100
staff room teachers.
You know, nurses were doing it.
1088
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:48,900
They were having a drink in
between shifts.
1089
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:52,300
So no, we weren't we absolutely
weren't.
1090
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:55,500
It was horrible and we didn't
want to close that.
1091
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:57,700
We didn't want to start working.
We wanted to look after the kids
1092
00:49:57,700 --> 00:50:01,400
as much as possible.
It really affected us and this
1093
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,100
wasn't even the story.
I was going to tell the start
1094
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:06,000
and somehow it's got into this
because it really warmed me up.
1095
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,600
It made me so upset to think
that these children weren't
1096
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,900
going to get an education, but
it was the sacrifice.
1097
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:14,900
We had to make at the time and
we all made sacrifices and any
1098
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:18,400
kind of portrayal of as being
anything other than selfless
1099
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,000
during that time just really
quiet my gears because it was
1100
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,500
all I thought about for months
was those children and whether
1101
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:26,100
they were, you know, getting
what they need.
1102
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:29,000
And those vulnerable kids, who
may be in environments at home
1103
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,600
that weren't particularly safe
for them and very stressful at
1104
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,000
the time we've been adults
losing jobs and it was playing
1105
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,400
on my mind constantly.
So, that's the first thing to do
1106
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,000
is covid.
Sorry that will turn it up.
1107
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,600
Everyone there a rant as I say.
But what I wanted to say was a
1108
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,100
shit.
Sorry I've worked out where you
1109
00:50:46,107 --> 00:50:47,500
going to say by the way in that
time.
1110
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:49,100
Yeah yeah.
Sorry.
1111
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:53,000
The point was when we ended up
going back to school on a rotor
1112
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:59,700
with key worker children We made
our aim to make it as enjoyable
1113
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:01,700
as possible for these kids.
Mmm.
1114
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,400
And yes, of course, we taught
them things.
1115
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:08,500
Of course we did.
But this was Peak, like covid
1116
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:10,600
pandemic.
And we had like a child.
1117
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,800
Yeah, we're talking like less
than 5% of our kids in school,
1118
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,500
like very small number and we
were still setting work for our
1119
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:19,500
children online.
There are still recordings and
1120
00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:21,300
worksheets and things for
everyone to work through.
1121
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:23,400
But these children who have to
come into school because their
1122
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,000
parents were key workers.
We made it our aim to just be as
1123
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,300
entertaining as possible because
we didn't know what was
1124
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:31,400
happening at home.
We didn't know if they had any
1125
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:33,800
form of entertainment, any form
of so-called really didn't have
1126
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,400
any former socializing.
So we are in that position where
1127
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,600
we could give that to these kids
and one of my favorite days of
1128
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,200
teaching when I retire when I'm
sat on my death bed when I'm old
1129
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,500
and I'll look back and I think
was my favorite memories in
1130
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:47,900
school.
Was that day that we were
1131
00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:50,900
clearing out the P cupboard
washing everything, cleaning it
1132
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,400
organizing it.
And we set up an obstacle course
1133
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,100
that filled The entire
playground because we had spent
1134
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:59,700
as much time Outdoors as
possible, obviously, and it was
1135
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:02,800
just the best day ever, and just
that bond that were saying with
1136
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,400
the children.
It was Unreal, wasn't it?
1137
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,500
I can, I just, can I just relive
it for a minute?
1138
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:08,600
Sure, I want I want people on
the listeners to relive the to
1139
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,900
live this as well, right.
Just imagine massive PE
1140
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:13,900
cupboard.
It's situated outside full of
1141
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:16,100
all the equipment you can
imagine for primary schools,
1142
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:17,400
right?
Just it's all in this one
1143
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,000
covered.
We got absolutely everything out
1144
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,900
out because my girlfriend who
also has the school is the PE
1145
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:26,300
coordinator and she really I
really really wanted to tidy the
1146
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:27,500
covered while she had the
chance.
1147
00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:31,800
So we took everything out and
we're like great as its all out,
1148
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,900
we're going to give every single
thing.
1149
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:35,800
In this cupboard to these
children, we're going to give
1150
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,300
them a section of the entire
playground.
1151
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,300
Each we put out cones to Mark
the beginning and end of their
1152
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:43,800
section.
And then we said right there's
1153
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,800
all the stuff like this.
Imagine this mountain like it
1154
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,700
like, you know, it like pirate's
treasure of gold of all this
1155
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:50,800
equipment and said, there you
go.
1156
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:52,300
They looked at us like what you
mean.
1157
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:55,700
It was like, we need to make an
obstacle course it To go through
1158
00:52:55,700 --> 00:52:57,300
all of the sections.
So we've split off into that
1159
00:52:57,308 --> 00:52:59,700
little groups of two or three or
whatever, you're all going to
1160
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:01,200
make a section of the obstacle
course.
1161
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,700
And they just looked at us as if
like, no, no, you're joking.
1162
00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:07,200
We're like yeah.
Using what they, which bits are
1163
00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:10,800
all of it at, take all of the
stuff and they spent the next
1164
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,400
half an hour, making the most
unreal fun.
1165
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,600
Crazy epic obstacle course and
then we just played it and I
1166
00:53:18,607 --> 00:53:20,600
just played it.
I'm not gonna lie, I just played
1167
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,800
as well.
I forgot I was teaching at this
1168
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,700
point.
I was so engaged with the thing.
1169
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:25,800
They created our man It was
amazing.
1170
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,600
It was honestly, one of the best
days of my career and I kind of
1171
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,600
hope, you know, like we said,
looking back those children who
1172
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,700
had to go to school and managed
to get in with us and they look
1173
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:37,000
back at their time at school,
the guy drove the car over time
1174
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,500
where we literally got to empty
the cupboard and use anything we
1175
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:42,800
wanted.
Because you know, it's like gold
1176
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,500
dust at playtime.
Or what can we use?
1177
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:45,800
What can we use?
I'll have this today.
1178
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,000
Oh yes.
How about everything at once?
1179
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,200
Like sensory overload.
And the great thing was, it was
1180
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,000
Outdoors.
We could still group them up, we
1181
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,600
had their own sections, it was
all covid.
1182
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:59,300
And it was just the best fun,
and I just remember just being
1183
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:01,800
so happy at the end of that day,
because we didn't have anything.
1184
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,400
Did we?
We get home soon?
1185
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,500
We know we have seen how quickly
the Zoom Quiz has become boring.
1186
00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:10,100
How about an all-you-can.
Like, imagine people believe the
1187
00:54:10,107 --> 00:54:11,400
obstacle course using.
Yeah.
1188
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,100
Yeah, you're right.
Because those kids will look
1189
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:15,800
back hopefully and and think of
that positive thing rather than
1190
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,800
all of the negatives.
You know, if we give we can make
1191
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,500
one child at Bangalore.
Yeah, that was a nice though.
1192
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,300
Wasn't in smile about it rather
than saying, oh, that was a
1193
00:54:21,308 --> 00:54:24,000
terribly like, terrifying time
to think of the gives me
1194
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000
anxiety.
You know, I'm not saying that's
1195
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,300
not going to happen but if we
could just get something
1196
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:30,700
positive in there then yeah.
What a great.
1197
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:34,500
I think what we've managed to do
this week is we've almost got
1198
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:38,400
the biggest breath we've ever
had of feeling because I, I
1199
00:54:38,408 --> 00:54:42,600
promise you, I've gone from
feeling still rather stressed
1200
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,700
honestly at the start of this
podcast, where we kind of said
1201
00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:45,900
to ourselves, look let's just
get on it.
1202
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:48,000
Let's just talk, let's not try
and mind too much.
1203
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:49,900
So now I'm feeling the buzz.
Again.
1204
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:54,000
It's crazy how quickly it just
goes from 0 to 100 but I think
1205
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,300
Hayden they sign.
For us to finish off this week
1206
00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:58,400
and let's do some stories from
the classroom.
1207
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,700
Oh, I hate a.
Let's get going.
1208
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:04,100
Start us off.
They've waited long enough.
1209
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,500
All right, brilliant.
So this is the same prompt.
1210
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:07,200
As I said earlier, I said, you
know just give me a favorite
1211
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,600
stories and this is what someone
wrote in to us.
1212
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,900
They said, right?
Favorite story ATA, coming to
1213
00:55:12,908 --> 00:55:15,900
get me one lunchtime because
she'd have to keep she'd had to
1214
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:19,300
keep her class in R3 in their
lunch, they in the classrooms
1215
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,700
because the class have been a
bit silly.
1216
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:23,500
They were fighting and being too
noisy in the lesson before
1217
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:27,300
lunch, I was a little surprised
as the class were great.
1218
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,600
Yes, they could be a bit noisy.
Z sometimes but never fighting.
1219
00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:34,200
When I went down to see what had
gone on, they were all sitting
1220
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,400
very solemnly until I asked what
happened one boy.
1221
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,500
Trying very hard.
Not to laugh explained, that
1222
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:44,100
they'd been playing human
Buckaroo.
1223
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:50,400
He'd be in the horse, and the
boys were sitting / hanging off
1224
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,800
of him until he either collapsed
or box them off.
1225
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:57,000
She's paralyzed it laughing
emojis here.
1226
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:00,400
The rest of the class were The
watching and laughing or just
1227
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,000
generally chatting.
I wasn't really sure what to say
1228
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,900
other than laugh with them and
suggest that maybe that's
1229
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:09,800
something they saved for a year.
Six only break time when I'll or
1230
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,700
when I was with them, or they
could do it in the comfort of
1231
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:15,800
their own homes.
It's just really tickled me this
1232
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,300
idea.
Children looking really sheepish
1233
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,600
like done something wrong.
And then when they try to
1234
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,300
explain to you seriously,
they're just like we were
1235
00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:24,500
playing Buckaroo.
What the game?
1236
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:28,600
No human buckaroo.
I sent an opportunity.
1237
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:32,100
Here, I sent an opportunity
times table Buckley.
1238
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:36,200
I, yeah, this is just given me
an idea why I teach you into
1239
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,300
next week's podcast because I
can tell you all about the
1240
00:56:38,308 --> 00:56:42,400
Buckaroo games, we play in my
last class pop-up pirate, just
1241
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,900
poking them until they give you
the right answer.
1242
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,900
Oh man, those games were epic.
As kids were those particular
1243
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:51,600
games, that era honesty, the wet
game, the wet game it.
1244
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,800
I think we grew up in the wet
play.
1245
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,800
Yeah, we did.
I like the Golden Era.
1246
00:56:56,900 --> 00:57:00,600
Pop-up pirate, cut plonk.
Frustrating hunk Jenga.
1247
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,600
Oh man up, it is pre phones,
isn't it?
1248
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,000
So it was like we did we hadn't
experienced that yet?
1249
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,500
Like, kids now have phones and
then it makes the tail Island
1250
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:10,700
care about this other stuff
apps, snap.
1251
00:57:10,700 --> 00:57:14,500
Rubbish Tip could tell me one
app that can set off a chain
1252
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:16,500
reaction that ends with a mouse
being trapped.
1253
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,400
I don't think there is one, it's
actually called a mousetrap app.
1254
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,600
You can get on a digital game.
Now you can actually play it
1255
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,100
once and then actually what's
it.
1256
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:25,900
What's the ball gets halfway
around.
1257
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:27,900
You have to pay 79p for an
add-on feature to meet you
1258
00:57:27,908 --> 00:57:29,400
Carrie.
Or you can just remove the
1259
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,300
adverts for three property.
Anyway, that's the first story
1260
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:33,800
of.
Did you have a story this week?
1261
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,900
Yeah, really really short one
but it really really made me
1262
00:57:36,908 --> 00:57:38,200
laugh.
So this is from a Reception
1263
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,300
class, okay?
And I think the lower down the
1264
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:42,900
school you go.
The more you going to be prone
1265
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:45,000
to these kind of absolutely no
filter stories.
1266
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,300
It's a nice short one.
But it really, really cracked me
1267
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:49,500
up.
Okay, I'm going to read it just
1268
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:50,700
as it was written into us as
well.
1269
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:53,300
One of the girls the other day
came for a cuddle.
1270
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:55,200
I mean, not something we get in
upper school.
1271
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,900
Is it indefinitely reception?
Sat on my lap and was Watching
1272
00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:01,800
her friends play.
Then she looked up at me,
1273
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,300
straight into my face and said,
Miss.
1274
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:09,900
Does it smell like, I farted?
So against my better judgment?
1275
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:15,200
I asked why would it smell like?
And she told me because I dish
1276
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,000
did right on your lap.
I love to cheekiness was the
1277
00:58:19,008 --> 00:58:22,800
first question.
It's not like I farted like as
1278
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,500
if you're not going to work out
like they don't have any
1279
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:27,200
inference yet as if you're not
going to know exactly what that
1280
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,500
means.
That's so funny.
1281
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:31,900
I love that.
It's just the just to say as
1282
00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:36,400
well like because I did so I'm
just wondering that is
1283
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,000
brilliant.
It reminds me of the children
1284
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:39,900
with your story last time of
them looking at you.
1285
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:43,500
And talk about the beard.
Dandruff just absolutely just
1286
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:48,500
rinsing you just a myth.
Are you You feeling quite ill,
1287
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:51,500
know why?
Because you're looking at dude.
1288
00:58:51,500 --> 00:58:59,600
Dude, it's running.
Have you ever had it in school?
1289
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,400
This is such a common thing
because teachers are always
1290
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,600
tired and this has happened to
me.
1291
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,100
So often where you walk in, you
see someone first thing in the
1292
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:07,800
morning goes, oh you look a bit
tired.
1293
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,300
He all right, and you feel fine,
I think you feel.
1294
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:12,800
Absolutely, but you have to
pretend because someone just
1295
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,300
said, oh, you look rough.
I'm like, oh yeah, I am feeling
1296
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:16,500
a bit rough.
You feel fine?
1297
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,200
Yes.
Like happens if he come play off
1298
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,700
and go to the toilet.
Like freshen up your face.
1299
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:24,100
Yeah, well I've got one more
story.
1300
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:24,800
Yeah.
You want one more?
1301
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,700
Come on, one more here.
This is a really short one but
1302
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:28,800
it just tickled me so I thought
I'd add it in, right?
1303
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:31,600
This is really into us as well.
Again, same prompt.
1304
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,200
What's your favorite memories?
This person just said, spent 10
1305
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,900
minutes with a lad swimming who
too.
1306
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:41,000
Stressed out after losing a sock
turned out, he put both socks on
1307
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:46,500
the same foot.
This is such a good analogy for
1308
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:49,000
Just like something pointless,
dresses, that we have at school
1309
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,400
where it's, you know what?
I, I'm surprised.
1310
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,300
This is a very common thing.
If someone loses something in a
1311
00:59:55,308 --> 00:59:57,100
score, child loses something
immediately.
1312
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:58,700
Someone stole it.
Yeah.
1313
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:01,900
It got some stole, my sock who
would steal your soft me honest
1314
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:03,600
to God.
Like, who would steal her stock?
1315
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:05,900
But anything, I lost my pen pal.
Someone stole my pencil.
1316
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,900
Have you checked your tray and I
know in the tray?
1317
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,900
Just yeah, we checked the one
place.
1318
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:14,800
It would be well know, I am
speaking of just, like, getting
1319
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,800
just funny clothing, things I
just The memory that I'll always
1320
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,500
have, you know, we just have
silly little things, it just
1321
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:22,400
tickle, you just never forget
them was quite a few years ago.
1322
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:27,500
I just was in a year for class
and children were just getting
1323
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:30,500
rid of PE just standard get rid
of a PE the normally take that,
1324
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,900
I put like a two-minute timer on
there on the board to be like
1325
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:34,100
come on.
Otherwise I spend forever
1326
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:37,200
getting changed and just got
stuck boy got stuck in his
1327
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,800
jumper and it just really
innocent.
1328
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,000
Like he found it funny in the
end but you know he just like
1329
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,700
only children can put two socks
on one foot.
1330
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,700
Only children gets stuck in a
junk.
1331
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:49,800
Alarms in the air, completely
trapped completely completely
1332
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,100
trapped.
Like just somehow Twisted.
1333
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:54,500
It goes, I'm stuck.
And it was just like, just
1334
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:56,600
making this noise, and I was
like, what is that noise?
1335
01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:00,100
I'm stuck.
I just it just cracks me up and
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01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:01,600
it cracked him.
Are they can only happen in the
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01:01:01,607 --> 01:01:03,600
primary school.
I've got one last thing about
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01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,500
clothing that I wanted to go on.
It's at my detriment, okay, then
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01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:08,600
we'll finish up because you just
made me think of it.
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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,500
I remember when I was in school,
so I used to live up north.
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01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:14,400
I used to live up near in a
place called runcorn.
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01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:16,600
So it's a Northern Town.
If you can be bothered to Google
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01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,300
that, If you listen and you from
runcorn, probably my family.
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Thanks for listening this far,
guys.
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Appreciate you.
And I come from.
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01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:24,000
I'm calm.
We moved down south.
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01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:26,600
I'm not saying this is a
north-south thing, I'm just
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01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,200
explaining out.
This is what happened.
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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,800
I joined the new school and any
kid, who knows?
1350
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,400
I joined in history, you've got
to make a really good first
1351
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,400
impression, right.
You've got to make a good first
1352
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,200
impression.
Try and settle in quickly.
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01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,400
Make new friends and I was a bit
awkward as a child.
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01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,900
Anyway, as you can put as a
child, I was a bit as a.
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01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,900
So anyway, I remember joining I
need to go to the toilet was
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break time as my first week that
it might have been my first day.
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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,200
I can't remember exactly.
But I remember going to the
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01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,200
toilet and up until that point.
Whether it's just because I went
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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,300
to the toilet with my mum, you
know, as a child when your mom
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01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:00,800
takes you in and she'll just
take you into the ladies
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01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,500
toilets, maybe when you're
younger and just you can just go
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01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:08,100
in with her.
So I went into the toilets and
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01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,500
I've never used a urinal.
I'd never use the urinal up
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01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,500
until you are free.
I'd always have gone into the
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01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:15,600
toilet, right?
So my friends, what my new
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01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,200
friends that I would obviously
trying to Press they both, they
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01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,700
both went up to the urinal and I
went to go into the toilet and
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01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:23,100
they're like, oh you having a
poo.
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01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,600
Not like no.
No, and that's why I'm the way
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01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,400
and then I'll come here then.
So it's okay, so, whatever to
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01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,200
the urinal and without knowing
the etiquette of your annoying,
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01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:36,200
I undid my pants pulled my
trousers and my underwear
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01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:55,500
downtown apples.
There's that lad who takes his
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01:02:55,500 --> 01:03:01,200
trousers around your ankles.
Oh man, that's priceless.
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01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:04,000
That is hilarious.
We might listen, I've got a
1376
01:03:04,008 --> 01:03:06,200
story as well, but this this
podcast is going to go on
1377
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,300
forever.
So tune in next week because I'm
1378
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:10,700
going to tell you a equally
ridiculous story.
1379
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:13,000
About me a primary school, maybe
there can be something, we
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01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,600
discuss a bit more next week.
I'm sure I've got some Classics.
1381
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,400
I can't wait, maybe I'll have I
think, as well.
1382
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,100
And if any of you guys have any
storage for one year, in primary
1383
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:21,800
school, doesn't matter if you're
a teacher or not.
1384
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,100
Now we all went to Primary
School.
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01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:24,600
Yeah.
So why don't you hit his up and
1386
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,100
we'll get some stories for next
time?
1387
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:27,800
The more embarrassing.
The better.
1388
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,500
Thanks for listening this far
guys.
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01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:31,800
We truly appreciate your support
and we hope you are loving the
1390
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,900
podcast as much as we're loving
recording it.
1391
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:37,300
Remember, you can get in touch
with us via our Gmail at teach,
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01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:40,600
sleep, repeat POD at gmail.com
or follow us on Instagram.
1393
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,600
Send as a message, why not get
in touch.
1394
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,700
Tell us what you think about
this podcast.
1395
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:46,700
Our Instagram is teach sleep,
repeat.
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01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,700
Podcast.
And if you're listening on
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01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:53,500
Spotify, scroll down on the
episode and you will find a pole
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01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:55,800
and a question-and-answer where
you can tell us what you thought
1399
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,800
of this episode.
We want to hear from you, we
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01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,800
appreciate you guys.
And that is all we've got time
1401
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,200
for this week so if from me and
from Hayden, thank you so much
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01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:08,700
and we'll catch you next time.
See you later guys.
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Breaking news, massive shortage
of paper towels across primary
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schools in the UK, thousands of
children across the country left
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without appropriate.
First aid for scrapes, bumps and
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Call emergency meeting in hopes
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of finding a wet paper towel
replacement.
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UK government denies allegations
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schools chin in at 64, the
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inside scoop.
Poop.
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Hello everyone.
Welcome back to another episode
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of teach sleep.
Repeat, my name is Dylan and my
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name is Hayden.
And this is episode 9.
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You guys have been listening to
us for nine weeks now.
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Why who knows?
I don't know.
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That's like ten episodes, man.
It really is it really, really
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is, thank you for listening in
again guys, we see the followers
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going up again, I love it, I
absolutely love it.
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And I just want to say thank you
because I know it's annoying.
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Listening to, I say this every
time, but we appreciate it
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massively, ratings follows,
active listeners, it's all good.
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And you're back again to listen
to us once more talk about,
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absolutely nothing.
So let's get started Haven.
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How you feeling thanks that am?
Well, I'm a mixed emotions of
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laughing.
I'm happy.
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I'm also having heart
palpitations right now because I
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ate a massive bar chocolate.
Just before we started this, I
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thought I needed the energy
boost so I'm sort of like this,
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you know, everyone listening, I
had a heart, I've got my door
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about an hour, Iago.
Because, obviously, we record it
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at the same time every week and
hey, Dad, just text me going.
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Okay, ready to go.
Just nipping to Tesco because I
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need a treat.
That's like I know where that
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is, and I didn't put two and two
together because about 10
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minutes later, I heard, you
know, when some puts a leaflet
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for your door, it's just like a
little Russell and the, the
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letterbox just kind of snaps,
shut, I just thought I was
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getting some junk mail again and
I honestly just paid my head
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because I was upstairs, I just
paid my head down the hallway,
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Down The Landing Story, down the
stairs, and I could see
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something hanging out of the
letter.
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Looks and I was like more junk
more, another estate agent
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trying to get us to go on the
market.
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They're fine.
And I just carried on like
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normal Hayden.
Text me go.
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You had a little visit from me,
a little treat.
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It was a bar of chocolate and
I'm gonna hold it up for anyone
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on the reels and I just want to
say thank you.
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Look.
You're welcome.
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You know Obelisk Creations in
terms of I wanted to discuss
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this very quickly in terms of
favorite chocolate bars, Hayden.
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What, where you are?
You know, I don't know why I
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picked that.
I think I was just trying to be
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a bit different because I always
get the same thing.
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I really like fruit and nut
fruit.
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And nut is like just the best
one, the absolute best one
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followed by caramel about you.
I don't know.
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I think listening to your
favorite beings fruit and nut is
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is quite funny because it's kind
of like the one that would give
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me a rash because I'm allergic
to my teeth.
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Yeah, yeah, this is why I don't
know.
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Mother's Creations is good but
I'm kind of interested in
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whatever because everyone has an
opinion, doesn't it?
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Everyone has strong opinions on
chocolate, and I think it was
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someone picks fruit and nut
immediately.
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I'm just completely switched
off.
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I might know, Kate can't even
get involved in a conversation.
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Don't know what it tastes like,
but there are just, they're just
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some better than others, and you
know what?
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I think is cruelly criminally
kind of underrated.
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Just classic just give me a
Dairy Milk.
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Just keeps growing classic do
milk and I'll eat the entire
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thing in one go.
Have you eaten an entire share
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bar?
Yeah.
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Yeah, that bar that I got you.
I bought myself one as well and
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I ate the whole thing.
I know.
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I'm not kidding.
Just before we started this
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podcast and I put it down six or
seven times after having like a
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couple of squares I did that
thing where you everyone knows
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this.
You fold over the end but then I
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immediately picked it back up.
Unfolded the end.
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And broke the next line off.
Eight, that fold them back.
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I'll put it down, then I'll be
going, it'll be good.
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But you're right there about
normal, chocolate book.
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And I tell you how I know this,
because Easter Man Easter eggs,
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they're just pure chocolate and
there is the best chocolate.
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There's a reason at Tesco today.
I had to buy a bunch of Easter
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eggs because I had to replace
all of the Easter eggs in my
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house that we bought for other
people, over the last few weeks
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when they were on offer.
I've eaten all the other ones
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and I've replaced them with the
full price Easter eggs.
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So bit silly, And they know
exactly what they're doing when
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they bring Easter eggs out like
two months before Easter day
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and, you know, I'm in this
planet who bought an Easter egg
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in February as still got.
That is really yea, absolutely
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stuff.
They absolutely not
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unbelievable.
Well, I'm glad they're talking
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about helped because I felt that
you were a bit stressed today.
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You seemed a bit stressed.
I thought you might appreciate a
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chocolate bar.
How was your week?
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Are you feeling all right?
Now it was, it was nice.
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Do you know what we've realized
is?
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I just think about this earlier,
and when we do the podcast, we
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catch up with our weeks or is it
with joke, isn't it?
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And we always go to some funny
stories and don't get me wrong.
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I've got a couple of funny
stories from this week but it is
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true.
I just and I'm sure listeners
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can relate this.
I'm sure they just have a week
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where you just feel stressed and
you can't really put your finger
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on it because I came to your
room today.
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Obviously after school just
feeling a bit overwhelmed.
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I think where it's the end of
time you know you have to put
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assessments up you have to have
parents evening coming up and
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it's just all stuff you know
it's coming out it's part and
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parcel of school life for this
time of the year but I think it
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just it just Came over me that I
just, you know, 67 things at
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once.
And I think it's just a very
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normal feeling as teachers in it
to get that every now and then.
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And I just needed to kind of
walk into a room and just say a
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Hayden.
I'm quite stressed.
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And, and that was almost enough.
And you said to me, can you
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verbalize it?
And I was like, no really?
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I just, I just needed to step
out of my room, step away from
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my pile of marking and just have
10 minutes.
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Like walking around the school.
Basically, and just walk up to
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your partner School pacing,
basically edge of space.
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Around a bit.
And then I was like, oh well I'm
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gonna go and finish my marking
now and I did feel better but
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but yeah, just put just one of
those days where you just think?
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I'm glad that we've got for it.
I'm glad we got through this day
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because this day won't happen
again now and we can move on to
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the next one and be more
positive.
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But I did want to tell one story
because it was my friend's.
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This leaks the last week, it was
my friend's 30th birthday.
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Recently, do you know your
friends group work with?
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I'm very close to my friends
still that we went to school
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with.
So it's kind of the Year we're
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all turning 30 and I'm the, I'm
the baby of the group.
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I won't be 13 to August, but a
few of us are starting to turn
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30.
So at the weekend went out for
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drinks, went out for dinner and
it links to what we were saying
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about last week about having a
nice drink and funny enough.
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My sister message me after
listening to last week's podcast
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and she was like yes I'm the
same so maybe it's like a
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genetic thing.
She said that having a Nice
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drink in the in the fridge.
So you know, like I had a bit of
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a stressful day to day, right?
She said her, if she would knew
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she had a nice drink in the
fridge and I just kind of Pop as
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we call it from up.
North nice.
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Kind of Pop.
She gets her through the day.
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You're a genuinely gets every
day.
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Just like some people think I
want a glass of red wine later
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or some people who smoke this
one, a cigarette Tommy, I'll
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borrow my advice is chocolate,
that kind of thing.
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Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
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Have ice is a can of caffeine
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like yeah.
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you enjoy and it's those little
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today in any way, linking back
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Okay, we head out for dinner.
We're going for drinks after.
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But during dinner it's the kind
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right?
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about half an hour away from
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obviously so I was like, I don't
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anything like that.
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We went there.
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we've had dinner actually.
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We were waiting between dinner
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back and say, oh, I need more
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So I said, oh yeah, sure, could
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table, you know, those classic
big jugs in the middle?
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for everyone and then you kind
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Don't try not to pour the ice in
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It, smashes it.
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Yeah, everyone knows that name
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water there and then you might
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I wasn't drinking but everyone
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really fancy cocktails and your
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places.
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Big jugs and jars.
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ones with this fancy or ornate
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of unique.
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was handing out cocktails to
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because I'd ask for the tap
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Anyone who wasn't having another
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water big, massive vessel of
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and I just wasn't thinking, I
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drink.
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glass support this huge jug.
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I just started drinking.
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was like almost like a goddess.
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horrible.
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pouring into my mouth and I
realized last out everywhere,
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but it I just couldn't stop
laughing.
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So it just sums up.
Oh, one and a half litres of
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water, that must be my own some
normal size for my cocktail.
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Did you did you not realize but
it did you do it on purpose to
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make them laugh?
Or did you genuinely just think
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it was a short trip?
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I jet, that's why it was so
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out.
When I realized when everyone
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staring at me, like, what are
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The fact I couldn't lift that.
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hand underneath the bottom.
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what point did?
I think this wasn't wasn't
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normal plastic Dylan, classic,
Dylan right there.
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And I had flashbacks to all of
the the memes on Twitter but no
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are from your famous TV
appearance.
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Oh, don't dude, I was gonna did
you bring that?
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Sorry, I were you trying to
segue into a thing where you
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bring up your, your TV
appearances?
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I don't know that.
It just so happened that for the
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last two weeks I've been talking
about how much they drink.
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And you haven't mentioned it.
I just, that is fine.
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Yeah, because the means, the
means of reaching.
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What was that, show that your
honor was not?
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Was it?
It's not very big show.
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It was, what was it?
Who likes to eat?
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Who likes to be a?
What is it?
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What's it called?
I think I think what's what's
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the meaning of all?
That's the one that will show
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Chris down goes down.
Yeah, that's right.
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You're Chris Tarrant.
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I'd flashbacks to all those
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memes.
About all those people saying
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how much I drink water on the
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Honestly.
Yeah, check out kitv player
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didn't was on TV multiple times
actually.
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And I'm sure he'll bring up
another episode because you'd
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have to talk about it.
But thank you for that one.
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In that bad.
That you know what, they don't
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know about that.
You're not Dylan.
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Moving on because you've had
your time.
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All right, you've been on even
been in the spotlight enough.
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Now there is one big reason that
I think you've been stressed
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this week.
Dylan I was little bit stressed
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about it as well and that is the
any you meeting that happened
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earlier in the week.
Now I know that we were both
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part of that Zoom call where the
any you called a kind of
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last-minute get-together that I
think there's like 20 30
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thousand members.
Join the zoom call within a few
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hours of them putting out and it
was to discuss The I feel bad
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even calling app a deal, as if
that's what it was, this offer,
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in quote, heavy quotations.
This offer from the government
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after talking, with the any
finally, sitting down to talk
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with the any you about, you
know, everything that the
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teachers are striking for
including teacher pay, including
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teacher well-being.
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And I say stressful, because I
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It didn't remotely go to plan.
It was the it was an
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embarrassment.
It was Shameful, you can say,
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how did you feel about it?
Dylan, go invent.
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It's, you know, it's really
funny because every single week
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I'm sure we have the
conversation Aid in the same
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conversation.
When we say, we can't keep just
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venting, I getting annoyed on
the fun part about it.
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This week is unavoidable.
I did a quick poll and
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Instagram, anyone follows us on
Instagram, teach sleep, repeat
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pod, sleep, sleep, repeat
podcast story on Instagram will
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see that I put out.
It described this payoff for in
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one word and some of the replies
were amazing.
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It's just a complete waste of
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time and genuinely for, you
know, I've said for years in
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terms that you don't, we don't
feel appreciated by the
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government because the end of
the government are our bosses,
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right?
You know, the Department of
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Education.
Our seniors in this in this
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situation because we're a public
sector worker, and you never
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really feel truly, you know,
taken seriously or appreciated
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in the role and when you saw
those leaked messages, we talked
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about a couple of weeks ago, you
know what their real Opinions on
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Hazard.
So not we're not under any
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illusion that they hate us.
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They don't appreciate those at
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But for the first time seeing
like just seeing something in
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writing like that which was just
so offensive and I really hate
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the word offensive, I hate it
because it's so meaningless.
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Isn't it to say, oh, I'm
offended, but it was so
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offensive and it was.
So I used the word derisory.
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It was, it was just an insult.
It was a genuine jab because
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for, for just for so many
reasons, I know there's a few
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things I want to say.
Pin on Hayden and I'll be very
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quick because on a boy, you all
the details.
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If you're interested in this,
you already know the details,
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don't you.
But you know, teachers were
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offered a four and a half
percent pay rise.
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We don't need to tell you how,
that's not even close to
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matching inflation, but that the
big things weren't even that
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like we always say, the two
biggest things for me, were the
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pay rise was unfunded meaning
that the four and a half
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percent.
Pay raise for percent of that
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would have to be found from
existing School budgets, which
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don't have the money.
That's the point of A striking.
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It needed to be given as extra
money.
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And the other thing was talked
about a pay Gap, you know, you
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discuss pay gaps in, you know,
the gender pay gap.
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For example is a big thing that
everyone talks about where, you
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know, male and female workers
doing the same work, getting
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paid less right.
And there's that whole
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discussion, it's a huge thing.
This is the most blatant pay gap
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of ever seen.
When you compare, the pay that
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English teachers get for being
teachers and the pay they get in
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Scotland and Nails.
And it was just such a damning
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table that genuinely made me
feel worthless.
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I'm I hope I'm not exaggerating.
I'm going on now Hayden, so I'll
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wrap up and then I'll get you.
Give you your talk in a minute,
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but just to just to put into
context for everyone, it's the
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same job where teachers right
teachers.
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Let's just say teachers in a
primary school, okay?
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If you're 6 years experience,
Hayden and I have just gone past
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that we're a bit above that but
let's just say a six years
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experience talking about wanting
to keep teachers retained in the
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profession, right.
That's one of the big things
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that a minute retentions
Dreadful.
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So trying to kind of dangle a
carrot to keep retention higher.
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If you've been teaching for six
years, there is an almost 10,000
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pounds difference in your pay
between being a six-year teacher
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in England compared to a
six-year teacher in Scotland.
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Now, on its own enough to get
the blood boiling in, what, in
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what way are we less valuable in
what way are our children less
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deserving or professionals?
Who are treated in a way that's
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fair.
And Equitable, and You know,
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compensated for the work they
do, and then there's just so
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many layers to it.
I mean good on Scotland for
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doing it.
And I know it's gotten have
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always been paid more, but it's
same in Wales, not as much.
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But there's another jump in
Wales and just to talk about our
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point of view.
We live in the southeast of
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England, the average house price
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hugely hugely increased.
And we're getting, we're getting
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that 75% of the pay of a
Scottish teacher.
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It's just so many ways that
we're just being stretched.
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And I just, I think I truly
think that that kind of fed into
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my feelings this week whether
it's subconsciously or not.
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We're just every single thing I
was doing now, writing parents
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evening, comments, looking at
looking forward to writing
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reports over the holidays,
whether it was just sat there
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marking my books.
I just thought I'm being taken
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for a mug, and I'm doing this
work at such a lower rate, then
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people in my own country.
Well, yeah, Scotland is in this
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country.
With the United Kingdom, we are
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the same country.
I know they have devolved powers
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for education, but I said I
would stop going on, but you got
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it wrong.
I know it's corny word and it
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just, I, I'm glad because I
needed to say all that because I
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don't want to be dramatic but I
genuinely pushed me to the
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furthest I've ever felt to just
thinking.
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What is the point?
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I think you summarized that
quite well early on when you
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said worthless and I know that
Russia is an avid listener
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actually of our podcast.
He's one of one of a few few
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million.
Actually I think that sort of
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tune in weekly.
So Uh, she obviously, if you're
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listening to this, you heard it
here, right?
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He feels worthless because he's
worth way more.
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If he just moves a few hours up
north, there's in Scotland, you
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know, there's an exact exact
same job and you can get house,
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half the price.
Where's the incentive?
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That's what it's all about.
You know, we're, we're simple
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beings humans, you know, if you
take us on a large scale and you
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look at the average, human is a
pretty simple equation.
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If you want to attract really
skilled, amazing, inspirational
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professionals that, you know, to
be that good.
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I Clean means they can probably
get many other jobs as well in
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other professions and other
places that are well paid,
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you're not going to attract
those people.
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It does it just that's just a
simple as it were, as it is.
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You know, people like to say
things like oh, you know, not
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teaching for the money, are we?
It's at?
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Yeah.
Well, the money is an incentive
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of, isn't it?
You know, there are going to be
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some great teachers in this
country who will quit this year
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because I like, what's the
point?
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I feel worthless.
I'm overworked and I can just go
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work in this industry because
I'm actually a really high
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skilled professional and I can
get be paid double.
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So, why wouldn't I?
I've got, I've got food.
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Upon the table got bills to pay,
you know, I just, I just think
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it's insulting exactly.
That the payoff was insulting.
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Yeah.
And at want to come in and
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exactly what you're saying there
because that's the point, isn't
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it?
And the government I know you're
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listening really like Hayden
said we're in Three households.
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Now, by the way mine yours and
Richie, I don't know that he
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might be getting this pool
installed.
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Yeah and sorry just really
quick.
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If anyone's listening in the
future Rishi was a prime
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minister for a little while.
In this country it's probably
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not probably nine power if
you're listening to the Future.
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Probably nobody.
But you know, just say, you
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know, bit context for history.
He was one of the many Prime
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ministers in this in this short
era one of about 20.
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What's the other one?
Tory, government or EI?
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Mrs. Liz, at least she was in
for a while.
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Liz wasn't that one?
Who is Thompson?
402
00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:14,800
It's John Cena.
This one says I said on some
403
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this Forest rustlers and it's
Johnson.
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00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,600
Boris.
Yeah, what's that one?
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Who's that bloke?
Who kind of offered a brexit
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referendum?
Just to get voted in, get his
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name and then the weight didn't,
the didn't, the brexit
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referendum.
Go go, go awry.
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And he just didn't he just leave
us either.
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00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:35,500
What was he?
This I can't move.
411
00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:38,900
He was the guy that completely
lied about everything.
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00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:40,500
I know that was, you know, that
was all of them.
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00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:46,100
Sorry, that was Oliver.
Yeah, anyway, yeah, and my point
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is the the sad thing is this is
the The sad truth.
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00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:51,600
This is the sad thing about
politics in general and I know
416
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,600
I'm grandstanding here and I
know sometimes we got about
417
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,900
politics and people like I want
to hear the funny stories about
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the kids are coming.
They're coming.
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I come on.
But you know, I think this is,
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you know, this is important
because the way they treat
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teaching staff, all of us
support staff as well.
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00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:10,200
Who by the way, just didn't
reach the threshold who
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absolutely deserve as much for
Rises.
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We do it is constantly a
question of how little can they
425
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,600
get away with?
And I've made this point
426
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multiple times to you, and
probably on this podcast before
427
00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:25,800
never ever in politics.
Is it what's morally?
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00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,600
Correct.
It's never, what do I stand for
429
00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:32,800
and what do I want to give in
terms of what people deserve or
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what people are worth?
It's never ever.
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That's never the question.
The question is, how little can
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I give and still maintain
support of my people who are
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going to vote for me?
The best thing I ever heard
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about teachers is, if you're a
Tory, okay, you're a
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00:19:47,808 --> 00:19:53,100
conservative Titian, why do you
care about giving us anything?
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00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,600
We're never going to vote for
you.
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00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,100
Anyway, the amount of the amount
of people who vote conservative
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in teaching will be minuscule,
right?
439
00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:03,700
And so from the conservative
point of view, there's no worse
440
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than giving us a good pay offer.
There isn't there is worth in
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giving the NHS a good payoff.
It because the NHS is held in
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00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,100
such a high, you know, standard,
but by the people of the country
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who will vote, conservative
teaching, doesn't have that.
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00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,600
There's no incentive there to
make this a big big priority as
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00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,100
Seen for the last 12 years, they
are constantly thinking.
446
00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:25,100
What's the minimum I can get
away with to make the Union's
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00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:28,400
look like they are holding the
country to Ransom to make
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00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,700
teachers that bad also are
saying well we offered billions
449
00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:34,400
of pounds saying, billions of
pounds means nothing.
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Does it when it's a tiny
percentage compared to
451
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,700
inflation?
It's just embarrassing.
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00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:42,500
I can't wait for them to be
kicked out and I hope it happens
453
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,600
very soon and then maybe I won't
have a stressful week.
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00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,600
And yeah, I'm going to wrap up
this.
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Any you conversation with?
Just One Last point I'd like to
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00:20:50,008 --> 00:20:53,300
make and it's the point in which
I know for a fact we both
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disengaged completely from the
meeting when we heard this fact.
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00:20:56,500 --> 00:21:00,200
Okay, so I'm actually going to
read off of a screen shot from
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that presentation.
Okay.
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00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:04,400
So something the any you put to
the government.
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00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,000
One of the many statements that
caught in their tour discussions
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00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,800
was this, it was we want a
requirement for each school to
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00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,900
have a work-life balance policy.
Now, if you listen to our
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00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:17,100
podcast you know there's an
issue with work-life balance.
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00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:21,800
Alright, in this Ian, which is
time costed and negotiated with
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school reps.
Hopefully, you're listening to
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00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,600
our thinking.
Yeah, perfectly reasonable.
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00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,600
That's how all jobs work ever.
Any new initiative.
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00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,600
Balanced against an activity.
That is stopped in order to
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safeguard teachers against
increased and excessive
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00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,700
workload, not workload,
excessive workload.
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00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,300
That was a statement.
They put forward, I read that
473
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and I thought, okay, they've
denied all the payoff is done
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with the dead.
An idol, this have denied all
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00:21:44,408 --> 00:21:47,400
there, but at least this one is
something that no human being
476
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,200
can disagree with.
Hmm.
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00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:52,900
Do we pay people for the work?
They do and stop piling stuff on
478
00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:56,100
top with no nothing taking away
or no extra pay.
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00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:58,700
What does the government say?
They didn't just say, no, they
480
00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:02,200
said that's an unreasonable.
Offer that was their word
481
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,600
unreasonable.
At that point I was just like,
482
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,200
cool.
Don't care.
483
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,400
Then I don't care what they
think.
484
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,200
I don't care what they say.
They clearly just don't want to
485
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,600
give the Union's.
Anything they want to show the
486
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,400
public that, hey, look, this the
unions are so bad.
487
00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:17,800
They can't get anything right
with that degree of anything.
488
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,200
They say that point.
I was just, I just wanted to
489
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,500
scream and I just, I think I
just left the meeting tons.
490
00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:23,600
If that was like cool, don't
care.
491
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,500
There's enough, there's no point
telling me anything because it's
492
00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:27,000
clearly going to be no positive
outcome here.
493
00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:30,600
But yeah, so maybe that's why
your best rep I'm stressed now.
494
00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:33,500
Thanks Dylan.
Maybe I'll take it from you
495
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,300
there.
Take other know.
496
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,400
No, you've really been a little
bit.
497
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,100
It's just, it's just
infuriating.
498
00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:41,200
I mean, they grandstand like
they want to engage in talks and
499
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,300
discussions but if they can't
even do free stuff like that,
500
00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:48,000
which would genuinely not cost
anything and we're just oh I'm
501
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,100
going to start going into one
again.
502
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:50,000
This is the last thing I'm
saying.
503
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,900
I'm so sorry.
I know you want to wind up there
504
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:54,900
but it does link into ofsted it
links into that huge pressure.
505
00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:59,000
We feel right because as soon as
they put a policy in place like
506
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,000
that, it justifies everything
that comes as a result.
507
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,300
So if ofsted come in and say,
oh, You know, your history.
508
00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:07,800
Curriculum is coming along, but
actually it's missing x, y, and
509
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,700
Zed.
If it's a policy built in the
510
00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:12,900
school can point to and say,
yeah, we know that this is going
511
00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:15,200
to be a long process because
we're focusing on this.
512
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,500
And this right now that's taking
up this amount of our teachers
513
00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:19,200
time.
This is all we can afford.
514
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,400
This is all week, the pace we
can move at, we're not going to
515
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,600
try and do 74 things at once.
We've actually got this costed
516
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,600
way of actually going about this
job like a real professional.
517
00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:30,700
And not just saying, let's just
do it all right now because I'm
518
00:23:30,708 --> 00:23:34,000
worried and it would it's just a
small thing.
519
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,800
And and you're absolutely right
Hayden.
520
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,600
We said the same thing didn't to
each other just like cool.
521
00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:39,600
There's no point.
There's no point reading on.
522
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,400
There's, if that's the level
where out that, they say no to
523
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,800
that.
We're never going to get
524
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,100
anything reasonable from the no,
that's not from this government
525
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,300
and like you said doing
everything at once.
526
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,000
A lot of the teachers,
especially if you're an
527
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,500
experienced teacher listening to
this, I know, I just know that
528
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,300
you're thinking.
Yeah, and we do all this stuff
529
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:55,800
at once, and in five years,
guess what?
530
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,100
We change.
All of it again, and then in 15
531
00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:00,100
years, when we change all again,
it happens to be the thing we
532
00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:03,700
did 20, 20 years before, and
it's just that cycle of endless
533
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:06,800
endless.
Excessive unnecessary work.
534
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,800
I see what before we move on to
the next section.
535
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,100
I'm actually going to tie in.
So one of our sections with this
536
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:14,800
because you know what, that was
a little bit - and I'm going to
537
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,800
jump in with toxic story.
All right.
538
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,000
Just something again, I've seen
on The Forum because I think it
539
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,500
ties in and then you know what?
Guys keep this in.
540
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:24,100
Because after this we're gonna
have some funny stories and even
541
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,200
a nice heartwarming story as
well about teaching.
542
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,900
We're going to focus on the
positives and I reckoned deep
543
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:31,300
down, I reckon deep down.
There's many of you out there
544
00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:33,300
who secretly love a little moan,
don't you?
545
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:35,200
Yeah, I have a little moment.
I'm so let's have it.
546
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,100
Toxic we all do.
So this is again, a classic says
547
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:40,100
so many forums online.
I love reading from because I
548
00:24:40,108 --> 00:24:44,300
get some gold from them.
So this one is someone writing
549
00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:47,200
in a very experienced very, very
experienced teacher.
550
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,100
That's we're talking like nearly
40 years and they were talking
551
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,700
about how their dads in a
different profession completely
552
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,300
out of teaching and after 25
years and their profession they
553
00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:00,600
would just rewarded with like
this and holiday but basically
554
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,200
that's like an almost like thank
you so much for literally
555
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,300
dedicating. 25 years of your
life to this profession.
556
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,900
We really appreciate you.
Go on holiday is on us, right?
557
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:12,500
And this person was saying,
yeah, cool.
558
00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:15,200
After nearly 40 Years of
teaching, I was given a support
559
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,500
plan work.
You know, 40 years experience,
560
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:23,000
support Blanchett.
I'm I just I am very hesitant to
561
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000
believe that someone that's been
teaching for 40 years.
562
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,800
Doesn't doesn't have any clue
how to teach that to the point
563
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,300
where they have to be up Beyond
a support plan.
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00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,000
I just I don't know, makes me
makes me feel weird.
565
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,500
They said the day their
happened.
566
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:36,500
I was really upset.
Obviously, the department
567
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:37,800
sister.
They go home.
568
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,900
Then if you work in a school you
might know this happens.
569
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:45,900
If you're off work for a bit.
There's often like a return to
570
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:47,800
work interview that you have to
have.
571
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:50,100
It's just the basically make
sure you're fit for work
572
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:51,600
essentially, if you've been ill
or whatever.
573
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,500
So, in their return to work
interview, they were told that
574
00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:58,500
them being off had triggered an
attendance concern.
575
00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:01,600
So they then had to have a
meeting because their attendance
576
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,400
wasn't good enough and that
triggered like another.
577
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Like all we have to have a Ting.
Find out why you're off so much
578
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,200
which they thought was a joke.
So, so, generally did they just
579
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,400
handed in her notice?
I'm done with this.
580
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200
I'm done with this ridiculous
and Ali.
581
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600
What the sad that's gone.
As you can see, the end of the
582
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,100
story is that they were told
that, even though they handed
583
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:24,400
their notice and they're leaving
in a few months, they've got to
584
00:26:24,408 --> 00:26:26,600
stay on the support support plan
until the end.
585
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:28,500
And that was the final straw
that person.
586
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,600
So that's kind of a what the
saddest thing about that story
587
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,500
is And I know this is true,
okay, that's exactly what the
588
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,300
school wanted.
Patina.
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00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,000
That's exactly what the school
wanted.
590
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:43,600
If you've been you've been
teaching for 40 years, right?
591
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,800
You are not cheap.
We know School budgets are
592
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,000
absolutely on a string.
Bet.
593
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,600
What's the word?
Just made honest ring, bear.
594
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,800
They're on a string blaring.
I do you mean like thread there
595
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,000
on whatever it's called?
No no, no, no.
596
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,500
I was saying there on the bear
of a string.
597
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:02,400
There are the Pharisees like a
grizzly bear.
598
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:05,000
Yeah, there were no Christians.
There is something.
599
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:07,400
That's is this what I mean?
Budgets are like a grizzly, bear
600
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,100
trying to balance on a string.
Heretic carry on.
601
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:11,100
Yeah.
It's the imagine that really
602
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,200
hard, really tricky to balance.
Really tricky to pull off.
603
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:17,500
All right?
See exactly anyway but it's a
604
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:21,200
stretch tight.
Nice and like a Bearskin, the
605
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:22,600
almost like.
Okay.
606
00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:26,600
Like it when it's angry but like
a bear skin when you type a
607
00:27:26,608 --> 00:27:29,300
string around it mmm-hmm.
Yeah.
608
00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:30,400
Car.
The imagery are crazy.
609
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,200
Yeah, please carry on though
because I'm a poet.
610
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,300
My words.
The school.
611
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,300
The school will not be crying
about this because they can they
612
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:40,500
can replace the teacher now with
Much less experience and
613
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:43,400
crucially less expensive,
teacher moldable.
614
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:51,100
And but moldable is a word that
multiple look also, listen,
615
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,700
don't get me wrong.
Some unbelievable need a
616
00:27:53,708 --> 00:27:55,700
qualified teachers.
Some absolutely fantastic
617
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,100
teachers and stuff, but all I'm
saying is the saddest thing
618
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:02,700
about that story is look, let's
not pretend, by the way, I want
619
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:05,200
to make sure we give balance
views in this podcast, because I
620
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,700
know Haider, we are very good at
just backing each other up and
621
00:28:07,708 --> 00:28:10,900
get into a cycle.
Just just because you're
622
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:15,300
experienced doesn't necessarily
mean that you're always 10/10
623
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:16,800
fantastic at the job.
Right?
624
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:18,700
Clearly.
And just because your
625
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:21,700
inexperience doesn't mean that
naturally you're the worst
626
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,700
teacher in the world that that's
not true.
627
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:27,100
Of course it's not.
But there is a level, exactly,
628
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:30,300
like you said working in a
school for 40 years.
629
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:35,300
Support plan.
Just it it's just a red flag.
630
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,000
I think maybe there's a way a
support plan can be put in
631
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,900
place, which is actually really
helpful.
632
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,800
I reckon there's a way to do it.
Calling at support support plan,
633
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,700
probably isn't the best way to
go about it.
634
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:49,500
From the start probably it might
be sound quite condescending but
635
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:51,700
there's ways to support your
staff and some staff need
636
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:54,400
supporting.
But just to just, you know,
637
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,000
going off work because you were
told to go off work because
638
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,400
you're on the support plan and
then coming back.
639
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,700
And I'm asking you why you are
off work and an absolutely
640
00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:03,000
meeting.
Yeah, what-what are you doing
641
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
Phil rubbish?
Yeah, it's a way but it's you're
642
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,700
right though because the whole
support plan is like
643
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:08,900
objectively, it should be a good
thing, really?
644
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:10,800
It's like hey we notice you're
struggling.
645
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,100
This is what I imagine.
It should be.
646
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Hey, we know struggling engine,
your job.
647
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,300
We really care about you.
We really value.
648
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:16,900
You.
Is there anything we can do.
649
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:18,500
We're going to put a support
plan together.
650
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:20,800
We're going to put more time
into you to help.
651
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,900
You is only training, you need.
What can we do?
652
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,900
But in reality is I mean it
might be in some places but the
653
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:29,000
ones we hear of it has such
negative connotations, doesn't
654
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,500
it's more like haha Ah, we put
you on a support plan, that
655
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:35,500
means your rubbish.
That's like the feeling you get
656
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:36,900
from it.
It's like and what it means is,
657
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:38,500
we're going to come and observe
you loads.
658
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,700
And it's like, it's that it's
that support, is that support.
659
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:44,400
And here's the thing, right?
Any teacher out there?
660
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:46,600
Let's not pretend I'm going to
say it because I'm sure
661
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,400
everyone's thinking it, no one
ever wants to say it, if someone
662
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000
came and observed, you every
single lesson or, you know,
663
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,700
twice a week from, for a whole
time, there's, you can't give
664
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:59,200
consistent lessons that attend
our tents impossible.
665
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,600
It's absolutely impossible.
There's going to be Things as a
666
00:30:01,608 --> 00:30:03,400
leader.
If you go in, and they'll always
667
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,800
be something.
Even the best teacher in the
668
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,600
world that you could pick up.
Even if the teacher is doing a
669
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,500
fantastic job, they'll always be
something cuz I know for a fact,
670
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:13,800
I've never finished the lesson
and thought, wow, I would have
671
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,300
done, absolutely nothing
different if I did it again,
672
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,800
there is always something that
you could do different to
673
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,400
improve in one way or another.
So the fact that when you're on
674
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,700
a support plan, it's almost it's
almost like a self-perpetuating
675
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,100
thing unless it's really
targeted to a very specific
676
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,000
issue that you sit down and
professionally.
677
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:34,300
Talk about beforehand and you
really Target that one thing
678
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:35,700
perhaps, behavior management,
right?
679
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,300
And perhaps, it's baby
management that this person
680
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:41,000
struggles with, and that's the
Target and that's what you focus
681
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,400
on during these observations in
these meetings.
682
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,200
If it's just an open-ended
support plan.
683
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:49,000
It's just a self-perpetuating
thing because you'll go in one
684
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,600
day, but old Pace was a bit off
today and that'll be their next
685
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,800
Target.
They'll go away their work on
686
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,300
their paste.
I have another observation in
687
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:56,900
the weeks time Pace has improved
but all because the pace has
688
00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:59,600
improved actually some children
weren't quite getting it.
689
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,900
And, you know, you need to work
on how you For your support
690
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:04,600
staff and how you support your
lowers and then the next time
691
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,900
they go in that's what they're
looking at.
692
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:07,900
And actually because you put
more effort now into supporting
693
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:10,800
your lower Achievers, or the
tops won't stretch this much.
694
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,100
That's another problem and
you're going to find things as
695
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:14,600
much as you want to find a
thing.
696
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,000
And that's what frustrates me
about support plans sometimes
697
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,300
and this kind of culture of, you
know, trying to find out where
698
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:27,800
people need to improve
constantly constantly, without
699
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,900
giving the balance of praise and
saying you're doing a good job
700
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:32,800
and let them go on with it.
It's just, it can turn into a
701
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,000
bit of what feels like a Witch
Hunt from your point of view.
702
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,300
If you're the one on the
receiving end of it.
703
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,500
So, his interest interesting
perspective that I want to see
704
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:43,200
your thoughts on now, teach
unlike other jobs, there is a
705
00:31:43,208 --> 00:31:46,500
bit of a perky teaching in terms
of we're really, really well
706
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:50,000
protected.
In terms of, we can't just be
707
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
fired.
So you can imagine in some
708
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000
private organizations if you're
not performing, there might be
709
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,000
some rungs to go through before
that but it is as simple as if
710
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,700
you're if you're not doing the
thing they can they could just
711
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:02,400
get rid of you, you know, you
You've you're fired.
712
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,000
You know, that's it.
You gotta go get another job.
713
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:06,300
That doesn't happen in teaching.
There are there are lots of
714
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:08,100
protections where you can't just
be fired.
715
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,600
Basically.
And I've heard a lot of people
716
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,500
say, over the years and this is
perhaps why support plans have
717
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:17,300
got to this point, right, where
they become very negative of, if
718
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,600
a school is having trouble with
a teacher because, like you
719
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,300
said, we're not all perfect.
We're not going to be great.
720
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:24,300
There are going to be some
people who aren't suited to look
721
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:26,800
towards the jobs for whatever
reason just like there are in
722
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,800
every profession ever.
And there's this idea that
723
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,200
support plans have kind of
become this way of cool.
724
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,300
It's the only way to get rid of
them.
725
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800
So what we'll do is we'll
basically ridicule them will
726
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,300
just make them feel rubbish, but
with this system that's kind of
727
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:43,800
universally accidentally become
the thing.
728
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
The system of this is how we get
rid of teachers.
729
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,600
Now, I don't know.
What did you think that's a
730
00:32:48,608 --> 00:32:50,800
thing?
But from what I've heard from
731
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,900
colleagues and and you know,
that people literally talking
732
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:58,000
about it, you make a really good
point and, you know, we are
733
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,800
here.
I'm Here to insult or degrade
734
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,600
teachers in any way whatsoever.
But what you've said is a fact
735
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,300
you take in a cross-section, a
huge cross-section of the
736
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,100
population.
There will be some people who
737
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:15,200
aren't up to the job and will
need support and or in the end
738
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:17,000
aren't suitable to fulfill the
role.
739
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,700
Absolutely, right.
And it's good that we've got
740
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,500
protection because, you know,
we're human beings at the end of
741
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:25,100
day and we like that.
So I really I get where you're
742
00:33:25,108 --> 00:33:28,600
coming from, I think it
absolutely anecdotally.
743
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,900
Is a thing.
What you're saying?
744
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:37,500
The problem arises where look
support plans were never just
745
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,700
introduced to be horrible.
I'm sure things like support
746
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:44,800
plans, you as a leader.
It's important that if your
747
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,000
staff needs support to to
achieve the targets, let's just
748
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800
say, I'm talking a very generic
terms in terms of teaching.
749
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,400
If your staff needs support,
it's your job to put things in
750
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,600
place to help them get there and
that's actively good management.
751
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,500
And if you do that, I think has
to tie in with lots of things.
752
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:05,300
Though, I've heard from from
people listening to the podcast,
753
00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:09,199
I've heard them say, oh, I
really relate to what you're
754
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,699
saying in my workplace, that
isn't even teaching.
755
00:34:11,699 --> 00:34:14,900
So I think this is a pro out for
at all professions where they
756
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:18,000
just say, for example, this
person I was talking to he was
757
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,300
talking about how he had a boss.
Who was unbelievable, because he
758
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,000
just treated him like a human
being, right?
759
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:26,400
It was like and he gave him
praise.
760
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,500
It sounds so silly, but we are
simple.
761
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,800
Mozart me.
And if all you're getting from
762
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,400
the top is, here's how you can
improve, here's how you can
763
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,300
improve.
Here's how you can improve and
764
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,800
that kind of attitude of you can
always, always, always get
765
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,300
better, which is true.
But if that's all you're hearing
766
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:46,600
ever, that's going to have a
massively detrimental effect and
767
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,500
I think support plans, kind of
tie into that culture of, you
768
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,400
can always be better, you can
always be better.
769
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,100
And if you're just constantly
being told that to the point
770
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:55,699
where actually okay at this
point, you're going to be on the
771
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:57,800
support plan.
I think the way you do it is
772
00:34:57,808 --> 00:34:59,000
super important.
Aunt.
773
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
I think it would be really
stupid to say support plans are
774
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
just a bad thing.
Yeah I think the context is
775
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,600
really important.
I think the way it's delivered
776
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,000
is really important.
I think just treating staff like
777
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,100
they are human in terms of that,
you know, whether they're doing
778
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:17,800
a good job or not.
If they're in that school at
779
00:35:17,808 --> 00:35:21,600
7:30 and leaving at 5:30 and
planning at the weekend, whether
780
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,500
you think it's good planning or
bad planning is absolutely
781
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:26,900
irrelevant to the fact they are
going above and beyond in this
782
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:30,000
job whether or whether or not
You deem the quality to be
783
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,900
sufficient or not.
That deserves praise.
784
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:36,200
It deserves respect.
And I just think you have to go
785
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,800
about it in a way which is just
Humane and it's just going to
786
00:35:39,808 --> 00:35:44,300
treat people like they are they
deserve to be treated and I
787
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,400
think your performance is
separate to your ability to
788
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,200
treat someone in a good way.
You talking about, praise
789
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,600
reminds me of a practice that
you and I both use in lots of
790
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,800
situations that could be talking
to a child.
791
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,300
It could be honestly just
talking to Another colleague at
792
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:01,000
school, particularly know, we
lead math.
793
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,100
So we might be giving feedback
to somebody or even talking to
794
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:07,300
the parents of children and our
schools and that is the positive
795
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,700
sandwich approach and it works,
doesn't it?
796
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:13,700
It's this idea of if you've got
something that you could you
797
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:16,600
might deem as - at least from
their point of view, okay?
798
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,200
They might take it in a bad way,
whether it's negative or not,
799
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,400
maybe it's just a bit of support
or a bit of feedback, wrap it in
800
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,500
positive comments, wrap it in
Praise, you're absolutely right,
801
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,700
you know, it shouldn't just be
support, you can do this, to be
802
00:36:27,707 --> 00:36:29,000
better.
You can do this be It's more
803
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000
like, wow, you're doing so good
at this.
804
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,100
I'm really proud of that.
Thank you.
805
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:33,200
Can you teach me a bit about
that?
806
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,900
I'd love to learn more from you.
I did notice however this
807
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:37,600
bubble, right, and then you
might wrap, you know, my
808
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,700
building, your your comment
where you're giving us feedback,
809
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:43,700
or you think they require some
support, then you finish it
810
00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:45,000
again with.
But yeah, I really want to
811
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,300
reiterate this point or another
Point altogether.
812
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:50,600
Another bit of positive praise
and it's such a simple strategy
813
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:53,600
but it doesn't get people's
backs up as much and it shows
814
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,300
them that you do actually care
about other stuff.
815
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:58,900
You do value, the good things
they do as well because unless
816
00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:00,800
you say it was you know we don't
always know it.
817
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Do we were like you said, we're
very simple beings.
818
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000
We take things at face value a
lot and we like to hear that
819
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,600
we're doing well in things and
not just try to assume that, you
820
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,700
know, we're doing well or
whatever it is, but you're
821
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:12,800
right.
I wonder if anyone listening
822
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,900
you, if you, if you work in
teaching or not, have a think,
823
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:20,300
do you enjoy your job?
Is it something to you that
824
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:22,900
makes you happy?
And if it is, is it?
825
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,200
Because you have someone a
superior a boss or whatever it
826
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,700
is.
However your management works
827
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:30,800
who You feel good.
Do you have someone who gives
828
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,300
you praise as much as I support
as much as they offer you
829
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,200
support or feedback because I
reckon there's a, there's going
830
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,600
to be a correlation there, I
think.
831
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,000
Yeah.
And what you said, true.
832
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,100
And I think the biggest thing I
will say, Obviously, that's a
833
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,600
well-known kind of tactic, isn't
it?
834
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,100
The sandwich right here.
But I think there's two things.
835
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:52,800
We do differently that work even
better and they're kind of link
836
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,700
to the sandwich, right?
The first thing is genuinely,
837
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:59,000
meaning it like truly, meaning,
the positive things, You say,
838
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,800
it's not like we think.
Oh, what's two things?
839
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,800
We could just say and make
someone feel good.
840
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:05,600
It's always rooted in something
they've actually done or that's
841
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,500
actually very good, right?
And so when we, when you give
842
00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:11,400
that sandwich to someone, it's
like, oh my goodness unbeliev,
843
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,200
this was so good.
And then you kind of drop in
844
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,100
that thing, have a discussion
about it and let someone open up
845
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,100
a bit more.
But the other thing is, I'm
846
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:22,900
thinking of a wider sandwich
here, so you're saying, like, in
847
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:25,900
one situation, you kind of do
all three at once, right?
848
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:28,500
Mmm.
What I love to do and I hope I'm
849
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:30,800
It doing this just to my
colleagues.
850
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,300
Even Pete, not even people who
have my superiors or who I
851
00:38:33,308 --> 00:38:38,400
manage or anything like that.
I think giving Just Praise
852
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,400
sometimes monotone for the sake
of giving.
853
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,700
Praise is so powerful just to
say, you know, wow, what an
854
00:38:44,707 --> 00:38:46,700
amazing job, you know, as mass,
they too.
855
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,400
Might say that we, you know, we
walked through the school and
856
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:52,500
this year group, The checked, it
was amazing.
857
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,000
It was so good to walk through,
it felt it felt really good.
858
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,700
I've had bosses do it to me and
you well, They just a mass mass
859
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:01,700
is so good in this school.
You know, you walk through it,
860
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,700
it's just so consistent.
It's so simple, easy to follow
861
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:07,100
and that feels really good to
hear.
862
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:10,400
It feels, it feels so good.
And as a teacher, that's my
863
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,000
teaching style, as well, is
trying as much as possible to
864
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,200
Heap, praise and make the
children feel good.
865
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,700
And I'm not saying that we can
do that 100% of the time because
866
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:24,800
sometimes, you know, we get
frustrated as well, we're human.
867
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:28,800
But that's such a powerful tool
and I've noticed that my Of
868
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,200
notice.
Because I had this conversation
869
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,600
recently with a friend of mine,
how I could be playing golf with
870
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,900
my friends, and I'll find myself
doing it.
871
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,300
Our find myself getting gypped
dripping into that Persona.
872
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:41,300
Oh, what?
An unbelievable shot.
873
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,400
You know, I'll go over the top
almost as if I'm talking to one
874
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,100
of my kids in the classroom
because I just think it's a
875
00:39:48,107 --> 00:39:51,400
really positive way to be and it
feels good.
876
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:54,400
It does.
But say that it feels nice to
877
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,900
make people feel good.
That's the Crux of it, isn't it?
878
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
And it does it just does it?
Was nice.
879
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,900
That's one lesson.
I always tried to teach her
880
00:40:00,908 --> 00:40:03,600
children because not, it takes a
while to learn that.
881
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,100
I think I don't think that's
always natural, not for everyone
882
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,300
but showing the children, I
always like getting into a
883
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:12,100
situation where they get to be
nice to other people and letting
884
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:15,100
them see firsthand.
How nice that feels to be to be
885
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:18,000
kind, is such a lovely moment
with a Georgian the, you know,
886
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,700
when they sort of take it, maybe
make a term may be, there may be
887
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:22,400
a bit misbehaved and I really,
really young.
888
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,600
They haven't quite learned
social social skills yet.
889
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,600
Whatever.
That's always a nice moment.
890
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,300
Well, I'm glad we turned a more
positive tune.
891
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,900
Because we're going to play the
jingle.
892
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:31,500
And after that for the
listeners.
893
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,300
All right, we're going to have
some heartwarming stuff.
894
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,200
I'm going to I'm going to stop
in the jungle.
895
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:37,000
Yeah.
Instead of paying the jingle can
896
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,100
I just do it live?
I think you should do it live
897
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:40,300
every time.
Actually buddy.
898
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Well just this once we'll see
how it goes.
899
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,900
Pretty cool.
Boom.
900
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:48,600
Chick, boom.
Boom ch Okay, we're gonna find
901
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,500
the real jingle.
We'll be back in a second.
902
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:55,700
Thank you so much for listening
this far.
903
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:58,300
I hope you've enjoyed our
ranting, but also, you know, our
904
00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:00,200
Reflections on some of the
better sides of teaching.
905
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,100
We're now going to have another
hot one, we story this person
906
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:07,100
wrote in to us and my question
to to this forum was simple.
907
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,800
It was what's your what's your
favorite memories of teaching?
908
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:11,300
And this is what this person
wrote and they given us
909
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:14,400
permission to share it.
I had regular meetings with a
910
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,800
parent and other professionals
about a child who had lots of
911
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,700
attachment attachment issues.
I'm a senko, which is a special
912
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:23,900
educational needs coordinator.
So had never been his tea.
913
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,600
Teacher and he was in year one.
He'd never told anyone he loved
914
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,100
them in his whole life and
rarely said it back to his
915
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,400
parents when they initiated it
during covid.
916
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,000
I was in school with this child
and we were riding tricycles on
917
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,400
the playground.
As you do.
918
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,000
When we'd finished, we are
walking into school and he just
919
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,100
randomly said Mr. Cook, I love
you at six years old.
920
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,800
I was the first person he'd ever
said that, to without it being
921
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,700
response to someone else
initiating it I read that story
922
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:57,600
and it just made me feel all
tingly and you know what I
923
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,100
think, maybe when I read that, I
was feeling a bit stressed Dylan
924
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:05,400
because it just totally reminded
me of why I love teaching.
925
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,500
Because yes, there we have these
grapes and a podcast is a great
926
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:12,000
place to just moan and vent
because people will relate and
927
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,500
we know that's why we do it.
But you know what there are some
928
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,800
incredible size of this job that
I just don't think you'll get
929
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,700
from many professions in this
world.
930
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,000
And that is one of them both
those moments.
931
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:26,100
Can you imagine being a train
driver?
932
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,300
And someone gets on the train
that says I love you, train
933
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:29,300
driver.
Just what happened?
934
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:32,500
I reckon what happened.
Maybe if this guy, if this guy
935
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,700
was a train driver riding his
tricycle up and down the aisle
936
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:37,500
with a few whose favor little
passengers.
937
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:41,700
I reckon they might do but yeah,
you're right on average and it
938
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:43,600
just yeah, I don't know.
It made me want to have a bit of
939
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,500
a discussion about maybe some of
the the elements of teaching
940
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:49,200
that we do love.
And that one is for me, probably
941
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:53,300
definitely number one because
I've created some of those
942
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:57,400
special bonds over the years
with children, where you just
943
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,600
know that they value, the more
than just that teacher.
944
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,000
And they'll, you know, they'll
they'll remember you more, as
945
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,500
more than just our that was my
year.
946
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:06,900
Six teacher or whatever camera
is named because you really,
947
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,700
really, really, really tried to
develop a genuine bomb of them
948
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:14,400
particularly when you know like
that that child had issues
949
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,900
attachment issues.
So if we obviously a part of our
950
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:19,500
job is to recognize problems and
issues that children might be
951
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,700
having and try to help us best.
We can So helping genuinely
952
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:28,000
helping a child with a real-life
issue and seeing them come over,
953
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,200
get over that hurdle and then
have this kind of newfound
954
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,900
respect for you and maybe even
like that, you know, like them
955
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:37,500
that love for you because you've
helped them, it's just such a
956
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:40,700
special feeling and I will
treasure that forever where, you
957
00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:43,400
know, I might not be a teacher
in 40 years but it'll still be
958
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,000
something I look back on.
And think that was such a
959
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,500
genuinely nice pointed out of my
life, as a teacher.
960
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:52,800
I think what you said there's
really important because Whilst
961
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,000
it's sweet.
It's very easy.
962
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,500
Isn't it?
To look at that story and think,
963
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:58,200
wow, that teacher has done so
much for that child.
964
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,500
But you know, I think what we
can give from our point of view
965
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,600
is the perspective.
Show everyone how that child has
966
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,100
done a lot for that teacher.
Yeah, it's a two-way thing that
967
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,500
the feeling that that teacher
will have got from that knowing
968
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,000
the context that will stay of
the teacher forever.
969
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,800
Like you just said, and I think
that's something really
970
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,300
important as well as we grow in
this profession.
971
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:21,200
We're slowly getting to the
point where our students will be
972
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,600
adults or are adults already
actually some of them.
973
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,000
And, you know, I really hope
that we get some of those
974
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,500
Encounters in the street where I
see one of those children when I
975
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,000
was child, I used to teach and,
and it's already happening
976
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,900
because you get teenagers in the
street already and it feels
977
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:37,800
good.
And it goes back to that
978
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000
feel-good, feeling of the, the
building the relationships in
979
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000
the bonds with the children and
it doesn't even have to wait.
980
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,800
Sometimes this week, I play five
side football at the local
981
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000
football club.
And when I go to play
982
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,300
five-a-side football, there's a
lot of children's training going
983
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:53,500
on.
Its finishing around the time
984
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:56,300
that I start.
So every single week without
985
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:58,700
fail, I'll see, two three, four,
five, six.
986
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:02,100
Sometimes up to ten children, in
various age groups that I've
987
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:06,200
taught and I walked past them
and I can they'll even say it to
988
00:45:06,207 --> 00:45:09,600
me or I can hear the gospel
surprise and when it's positive
989
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,400
and when it's, you know, which
invariably is that they're just
990
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,100
excited to see me outside of
school.
991
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:18,800
It feels good.
I had one child this week like
992
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,500
looked shocked, you know, like
when you Someone you've not seen
993
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:23,900
in ages.
Even I saw them that day, they
994
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:27,000
just, you know, their face lit
up and, you know, whether it's
995
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,800
selfish, I don't know, I don't
care but it felt good and it's
996
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,300
that relationship of just, you
know, getting to know these
997
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:37,000
children in that way to just
feel like you're really helping
998
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,900
them, and if they feel excited
and happy to be in your
999
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:43,900
classroom, they're going to get
more out of the learning and
1000
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:45,500
that's something we live by,
isn't it?
1001
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:48,600
And, you know, I found myself
now grinning for the last 10
1002
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,000
minutes because that is exactly
what Teaching does to.
1003
00:45:51,008 --> 00:45:53,700
You is this unbelievable roller
coaster and it's the reason
1004
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:56,100
we're still doing it.
And, you know, earlier, I felt
1005
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:57,100
stressed.
I thought it came into your,
1006
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:58,000
that's it.
That's it.
1007
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,300
I've been pushed to the edge and
then now, I'm just like, oh,
1008
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:01,200
isn't it?
The best job?
1009
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,800
It's just crazy.
How much?
1010
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,500
It's flips so quickly.
I have multiple objects in my
1011
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:10,600
house from over the years of
teaching, right where they
1012
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,400
perhaps it's been a gift or
something from one of the
1013
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,500
children.
How now just just sitting here
1014
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:17,300
thinking like, oh yeah, actually
I've got a pillow in my bedroom
1015
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:21,900
that that was like stitched by a
child for about Years ago and
1016
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:24,000
they just wrote they just
stitched like Miss Tess into it
1017
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,000
and I was like that's such a
nice thing and that's that's
1018
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,500
always on my bed.
Now reminds me of that year.
1019
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:31,800
I've also got and I think you
know this one because there was
1020
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,900
a child that was really, really
special to me in my first year
1021
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:35,500
of teaching.
I think your first year means a
1022
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:38,400
lot to Any teacher.
And you know what I did I made I
1023
00:46:38,408 --> 00:46:40,700
made that Bond of Love.
Lots of those children because
1024
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:44,100
you live and breathe teaching in
your first year and still on my
1025
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:46,600
keys today.
My only key ring and it's been
1026
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,100
my only key ring since 8 years
ago is a little key ring.
1027
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,300
That says to mr.
S and it says from the child's
1028
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:56,600
name and every now and then I do
just look at that and it you
1029
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,100
know if I'm stressed because
teacher workload is just
1030
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:02,400
increasing, you know, the job is
becoming more stressful perhaps
1031
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,700
it's because I'm becoming more
used to it, whatever the reasons
1032
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:07,200
are but I do like to look at
that every now and then ago I
1033
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,000
had you know what that that
child was so special to me and I
1034
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000
hope I'll special to them.
I really really really hope that
1035
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,800
one day they will look back and
think I'm glad I had mrs.
1036
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,000
Stephens as a teacher that year
because he helped me for
1037
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,200
whatever it was and if you Was
then then that's it might, you
1038
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,900
know, I feel good.
I feel great or everything else.
1039
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:27,000
Just I forgotten of all the
stresses of that year.
1040
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,400
That's the one thing.
I remember, there's one other
1041
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,200
thing I want to just mention a
said that story about them
1042
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,400
riding tricycles in covid and
it's us.
1043
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,900
I wanted to share this story
View and Jog your memory because
1044
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:43,500
during covid, obviously
unbelievably stressful time at
1045
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:45,400
the time when covid broke a
tartar.
1046
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,600
Remember?
Now, isn't it really?
1047
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,500
When covid first, like broke out
and the first lockdown was
1048
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:52,400
announced three years.
Go by the way, now, God in March
1049
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,700
and the school Shut, it was so
nerve-racking and exclusive for
1050
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,500
the podcast.
When the schools shut that day
1051
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:03,200
that we went home and they were
sharp.
1052
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,900
I had a child.
This was, this is crazy.
1053
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,100
I had a child in front of me,
who because we were setting work
1054
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:16,100
online when the schools closed.
And I had this girl who at the
1055
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,100
end of the day, we were
dismissing them for what we knew
1056
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:20,600
was the last time when schools
were closing and it was
1057
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,200
emotional because as a teacher,
we felt like we were letting go
1058
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,800
of our babies, do not mean that.
Yeah.
1059
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,200
Our when we didn't know when
we're going to see them again
1060
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,800
and we it was this horrible
Health scare, you know.
1061
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:33,800
I can't put into words enough,
how traumatic that that kind of
1062
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,700
period of time was and always
remember because this girl just
1063
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:40,600
looked up for me.
And she just said, Oh, but I've
1064
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,600
got no internet.
I won't be able to do anything
1065
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:49,500
and I just died inside II was so
like it just cut me to the core
1066
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:53,900
like it was so horrible because
some children don't have
1067
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:56,200
internet.
That's that's just that's just a
1068
00:48:56,207 --> 00:48:58,200
fact.
And this child then would have
1069
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,000
no education potentially because
she wasn't a key worker child
1070
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:03,400
she would just go home, not have
access to the internet and I was
1071
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,400
just like, oh my God but
obviously the school, we could
1072
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,700
put things in place for her, but
in that moment, I just ran back
1073
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:09,500
inside.
Side.
1074
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:11,500
I just found her some old
textbooks from the cupboard,
1075
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:13,600
just completely random.
And I remember giving her like
1076
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,800
five and I'll just, I'll just
take this home.
1077
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:18,600
And this is number 2 for the
podcast.
1078
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,300
I got home that night, and I was
crying.
1079
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:23,300
And I about her like
specifically, triggered me,
1080
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,100
because I felt just horrible.
And this is what gets my back up
1081
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:31,600
when people like Boris and these
politicians come out, and try
1082
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,000
and defend, what they did in
terms of parties and having a
1083
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:36,700
having a laugh and having a
drink.
1084
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:40,500
And so it was just work and oh,
and That guy this is our Tory MP
1085
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,300
Michael Fabric.
And I think his name is who
1086
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,600
defended the party saying all
the teachers were doing in the
1087
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,100
staff room teachers.
You know, nurses were doing it.
1088
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:48,900
They were having a drink in
between shifts.
1089
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:52,300
So no, we weren't we absolutely
weren't.
1090
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:55,500
It was horrible and we didn't
want to close that.
1091
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:57,700
We didn't want to start working.
We wanted to look after the kids
1092
00:49:57,700 --> 00:50:01,400
as much as possible.
It really affected us and this
1093
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,100
wasn't even the story.
I was going to tell the start
1094
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:06,000
and somehow it's got into this
because it really warmed me up.
1095
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,600
It made me so upset to think
that these children weren't
1096
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,900
going to get an education, but
it was the sacrifice.
1097
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:14,900
We had to make at the time and
we all made sacrifices and any
1098
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:18,400
kind of portrayal of as being
anything other than selfless
1099
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,000
during that time just really
quiet my gears because it was
1100
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,500
all I thought about for months
was those children and whether
1101
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:26,100
they were, you know, getting
what they need.
1102
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:29,000
And those vulnerable kids, who
may be in environments at home
1103
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,600
that weren't particularly safe
for them and very stressful at
1104
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,000
the time we've been adults
losing jobs and it was playing
1105
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,400
on my mind constantly.
So, that's the first thing to do
1106
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,000
is covid.
Sorry that will turn it up.
1107
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,600
Everyone there a rant as I say.
But what I wanted to say was a
1108
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,100
shit.
Sorry I've worked out where you
1109
00:50:46,107 --> 00:50:47,500
going to say by the way in that
time.
1110
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:49,100
Yeah yeah.
Sorry.
1111
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:53,000
The point was when we ended up
going back to school on a rotor
1112
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:59,700
with key worker children We made
our aim to make it as enjoyable
1113
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:01,700
as possible for these kids.
Mmm.
1114
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,400
And yes, of course, we taught
them things.
1115
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:08,500
Of course we did.
But this was Peak, like covid
1116
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:10,600
pandemic.
And we had like a child.
1117
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,800
Yeah, we're talking like less
than 5% of our kids in school,
1118
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,500
like very small number and we
were still setting work for our
1119
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:19,500
children online.
There are still recordings and
1120
00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:21,300
worksheets and things for
everyone to work through.
1121
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:23,400
But these children who have to
come into school because their
1122
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,000
parents were key workers.
We made it our aim to just be as
1123
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,300
entertaining as possible because
we didn't know what was
1124
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:31,400
happening at home.
We didn't know if they had any
1125
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:33,800
form of entertainment, any form
of so-called really didn't have
1126
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,400
any former socializing.
So we are in that position where
1127
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,600
we could give that to these kids
and one of my favorite days of
1128
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,200
teaching when I retire when I'm
sat on my death bed when I'm old
1129
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,500
and I'll look back and I think
was my favorite memories in
1130
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:47,900
school.
Was that day that we were
1131
00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:50,900
clearing out the P cupboard
washing everything, cleaning it
1132
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,400
organizing it.
And we set up an obstacle course
1133
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,100
that filled The entire
playground because we had spent
1134
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:59,700
as much time Outdoors as
possible, obviously, and it was
1135
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:02,800
just the best day ever, and just
that bond that were saying with
1136
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,400
the children.
It was Unreal, wasn't it?
1137
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,500
I can, I just, can I just relive
it for a minute?
1138
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:08,600
Sure, I want I want people on
the listeners to relive the to
1139
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,900
live this as well, right.
Just imagine massive PE
1140
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:13,900
cupboard.
It's situated outside full of
1141
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:16,100
all the equipment you can
imagine for primary schools,
1142
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:17,400
right?
Just it's all in this one
1143
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,000
covered.
We got absolutely everything out
1144
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,900
out because my girlfriend who
also has the school is the PE
1145
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:26,300
coordinator and she really I
really really wanted to tidy the
1146
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:27,500
covered while she had the
chance.
1147
00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:31,800
So we took everything out and
we're like great as its all out,
1148
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,900
we're going to give every single
thing.
1149
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:35,800
In this cupboard to these
children, we're going to give
1150
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,300
them a section of the entire
playground.
1151
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,300
Each we put out cones to Mark
the beginning and end of their
1152
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:43,800
section.
And then we said right there's
1153
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,800
all the stuff like this.
Imagine this mountain like it
1154
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,700
like, you know, it like pirate's
treasure of gold of all this
1155
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:50,800
equipment and said, there you
go.
1156
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:52,300
They looked at us like what you
mean.
1157
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:55,700
It was like, we need to make an
obstacle course it To go through
1158
00:52:55,700 --> 00:52:57,300
all of the sections.
So we've split off into that
1159
00:52:57,308 --> 00:52:59,700
little groups of two or three or
whatever, you're all going to
1160
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:01,200
make a section of the obstacle
course.
1161
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,700
And they just looked at us as if
like, no, no, you're joking.
1162
00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:07,200
We're like yeah.
Using what they, which bits are
1163
00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:10,800
all of it at, take all of the
stuff and they spent the next
1164
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,400
half an hour, making the most
unreal fun.
1165
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,600
Crazy epic obstacle course and
then we just played it and I
1166
00:53:18,607 --> 00:53:20,600
just played it.
I'm not gonna lie, I just played
1167
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,800
as well.
I forgot I was teaching at this
1168
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,700
point.
I was so engaged with the thing.
1169
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:25,800
They created our man It was
amazing.
1170
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,600
It was honestly, one of the best
days of my career and I kind of
1171
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,600
hope, you know, like we said,
looking back those children who
1172
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,700
had to go to school and managed
to get in with us and they look
1173
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:37,000
back at their time at school,
the guy drove the car over time
1174
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,500
where we literally got to empty
the cupboard and use anything we
1175
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:42,800
wanted.
Because you know, it's like gold
1176
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,500
dust at playtime.
Or what can we use?
1177
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:45,800
What can we use?
I'll have this today.
1178
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,000
Oh yes.
How about everything at once?
1179
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,200
Like sensory overload.
And the great thing was, it was
1180
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,000
Outdoors.
We could still group them up, we
1181
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,600
had their own sections, it was
all covid.
1182
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:59,300
And it was just the best fun,
and I just remember just being
1183
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:01,800
so happy at the end of that day,
because we didn't have anything.
1184
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,400
Did we?
We get home soon?
1185
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,500
We know we have seen how quickly
the Zoom Quiz has become boring.
1186
00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:10,100
How about an all-you-can.
Like, imagine people believe the
1187
00:54:10,107 --> 00:54:11,400
obstacle course using.
Yeah.
1188
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,100
Yeah, you're right.
Because those kids will look
1189
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:15,800
back hopefully and and think of
that positive thing rather than
1190
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,800
all of the negatives.
You know, if we give we can make
1191
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,500
one child at Bangalore.
Yeah, that was a nice though.
1192
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,300
Wasn't in smile about it rather
than saying, oh, that was a
1193
00:54:21,308 --> 00:54:24,000
terribly like, terrifying time
to think of the gives me
1194
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000
anxiety.
You know, I'm not saying that's
1195
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,300
not going to happen but if we
could just get something
1196
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:30,700
positive in there then yeah.
What a great.
1197
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:34,500
I think what we've managed to do
this week is we've almost got
1198
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:38,400
the biggest breath we've ever
had of feeling because I, I
1199
00:54:38,408 --> 00:54:42,600
promise you, I've gone from
feeling still rather stressed
1200
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,700
honestly at the start of this
podcast, where we kind of said
1201
00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:45,900
to ourselves, look let's just
get on it.
1202
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:48,000
Let's just talk, let's not try
and mind too much.
1203
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:49,900
So now I'm feeling the buzz.
Again.
1204
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:54,000
It's crazy how quickly it just
goes from 0 to 100 but I think
1205
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,300
Hayden they sign.
For us to finish off this week
1206
00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:58,400
and let's do some stories from
the classroom.
1207
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,700
Oh, I hate a.
Let's get going.
1208
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:04,100
Start us off.
They've waited long enough.
1209
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,500
All right, brilliant.
So this is the same prompt.
1210
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:07,200
As I said earlier, I said, you
know just give me a favorite
1211
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,600
stories and this is what someone
wrote in to us.
1212
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,900
They said, right?
Favorite story ATA, coming to
1213
00:55:12,908 --> 00:55:15,900
get me one lunchtime because
she'd have to keep she'd had to
1214
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:19,300
keep her class in R3 in their
lunch, they in the classrooms
1215
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,700
because the class have been a
bit silly.
1216
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:23,500
They were fighting and being too
noisy in the lesson before
1217
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:27,300
lunch, I was a little surprised
as the class were great.
1218
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,600
Yes, they could be a bit noisy.
Z sometimes but never fighting.
1219
00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:34,200
When I went down to see what had
gone on, they were all sitting
1220
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,400
very solemnly until I asked what
happened one boy.
1221
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,500
Trying very hard.
Not to laugh explained, that
1222
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:44,100
they'd been playing human
Buckaroo.
1223
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:50,400
He'd be in the horse, and the
boys were sitting / hanging off
1224
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,800
of him until he either collapsed
or box them off.
1225
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:57,000
She's paralyzed it laughing
emojis here.
1226
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:00,400
The rest of the class were The
watching and laughing or just
1227
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,000
generally chatting.
I wasn't really sure what to say
1228
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,900
other than laugh with them and
suggest that maybe that's
1229
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:09,800
something they saved for a year.
Six only break time when I'll or
1230
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,700
when I was with them, or they
could do it in the comfort of
1231
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:15,800
their own homes.
It's just really tickled me this
1232
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,300
idea.
Children looking really sheepish
1233
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,600
like done something wrong.
And then when they try to
1234
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,300
explain to you seriously,
they're just like we were
1235
00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:24,500
playing Buckaroo.
What the game?
1236
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:28,600
No human buckaroo.
I sent an opportunity.
1237
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:32,100
Here, I sent an opportunity
times table Buckley.
1238
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:36,200
I, yeah, this is just given me
an idea why I teach you into
1239
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,300
next week's podcast because I
can tell you all about the
1240
00:56:38,308 --> 00:56:42,400
Buckaroo games, we play in my
last class pop-up pirate, just
1241
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,900
poking them until they give you
the right answer.
1242
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,900
Oh man, those games were epic.
As kids were those particular
1243
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:51,600
games, that era honesty, the wet
game, the wet game it.
1244
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,800
I think we grew up in the wet
play.
1245
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,800
Yeah, we did.
I like the Golden Era.
1246
00:56:56,900 --> 00:57:00,600
Pop-up pirate, cut plonk.
Frustrating hunk Jenga.
1247
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,600
Oh man up, it is pre phones,
isn't it?
1248
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,000
So it was like we did we hadn't
experienced that yet?
1249
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,500
Like, kids now have phones and
then it makes the tail Island
1250
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:10,700
care about this other stuff
apps, snap.
1251
00:57:10,700 --> 00:57:14,500
Rubbish Tip could tell me one
app that can set off a chain
1252
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:16,500
reaction that ends with a mouse
being trapped.
1253
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,400
I don't think there is one, it's
actually called a mousetrap app.
1254
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,600
You can get on a digital game.
Now you can actually play it
1255
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,100
once and then actually what's
it.
1256
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:25,900
What's the ball gets halfway
around.
1257
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:27,900
You have to pay 79p for an
add-on feature to meet you
1258
00:57:27,908 --> 00:57:29,400
Carrie.
Or you can just remove the
1259
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,300
adverts for three property.
Anyway, that's the first story
1260
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:33,800
of.
Did you have a story this week?
1261
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,900
Yeah, really really short one
but it really really made me
1262
00:57:36,908 --> 00:57:38,200
laugh.
So this is from a Reception
1263
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,300
class, okay?
And I think the lower down the
1264
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:42,900
school you go.
The more you going to be prone
1265
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:45,000
to these kind of absolutely no
filter stories.
1266
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,300
It's a nice short one.
But it really, really cracked me
1267
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:49,500
up.
Okay, I'm going to read it just
1268
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as it was written into us as
well.
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00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:53,300
One of the girls the other day
came for a cuddle.
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I mean, not something we get in
upper school.
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00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,900
Is it indefinitely reception?
Sat on my lap and was Watching
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00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:01,800
her friends play.
Then she looked up at me,
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00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,300
straight into my face and said,
Miss.
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00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:09,900
Does it smell like, I farted?
So against my better judgment?
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00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:15,200
I asked why would it smell like?
And she told me because I dish
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00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,000
did right on your lap.
I love to cheekiness was the
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00:58:19,008 --> 00:58:22,800
first question.
It's not like I farted like as
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00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,500
if you're not going to work out
like they don't have any
1279
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:27,200
inference yet as if you're not
going to know exactly what that
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00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,500
means.
That's so funny.
1281
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:31,900
I love that.
It's just the just to say as
1282
00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:36,400
well like because I did so I'm
just wondering that is
1283
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,000
brilliant.
It reminds me of the children
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00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:39,900
with your story last time of
them looking at you.
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00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:43,500
And talk about the beard.
Dandruff just absolutely just
1286
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:48,500
rinsing you just a myth.
Are you You feeling quite ill,
1287
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:51,500
know why?
Because you're looking at dude.
1288
00:58:51,500 --> 00:58:59,600
Dude, it's running.
Have you ever had it in school?
1289
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,400
This is such a common thing
because teachers are always
1290
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,600
tired and this has happened to
me.
1291
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,100
So often where you walk in, you
see someone first thing in the
1292
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:07,800
morning goes, oh you look a bit
tired.
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00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,300
He all right, and you feel fine,
I think you feel.
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00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:12,800
Absolutely, but you have to
pretend because someone just
1295
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,300
said, oh, you look rough.
I'm like, oh yeah, I am feeling
1296
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:16,500
a bit rough.
You feel fine?
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00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,200
Yes.
Like happens if he come play off
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00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,700
and go to the toilet.
Like freshen up your face.
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00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:24,100
Yeah, well I've got one more
story.
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00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:24,800
Yeah.
You want one more?
1301
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,700
Come on, one more here.
This is a really short one but
1302
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:28,800
it just tickled me so I thought
I'd add it in, right?
1303
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:31,600
This is really into us as well.
Again, same prompt.
1304
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,200
What's your favorite memories?
This person just said, spent 10
1305
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,900
minutes with a lad swimming who
too.
1306
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:41,000
Stressed out after losing a sock
turned out, he put both socks on
1307
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:46,500
the same foot.
This is such a good analogy for
1308
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:49,000
Just like something pointless,
dresses, that we have at school
1309
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,400
where it's, you know what?
I, I'm surprised.
1310
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,300
This is a very common thing.
If someone loses something in a
1311
00:59:55,308 --> 00:59:57,100
score, child loses something
immediately.
1312
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:58,700
Someone stole it.
Yeah.
1313
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:01,900
It got some stole, my sock who
would steal your soft me honest
1314
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:03,600
to God.
Like, who would steal her stock?
1315
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:05,900
But anything, I lost my pen pal.
Someone stole my pencil.
1316
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,900
Have you checked your tray and I
know in the tray?
1317
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,900
Just yeah, we checked the one
place.
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01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:14,800
It would be well know, I am
speaking of just, like, getting
1319
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,800
just funny clothing, things I
just The memory that I'll always
1320
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,500
have, you know, we just have
silly little things, it just
1321
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:22,400
tickle, you just never forget
them was quite a few years ago.
1322
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:27,500
I just was in a year for class
and children were just getting
1323
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:30,500
rid of PE just standard get rid
of a PE the normally take that,
1324
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,900
I put like a two-minute timer on
there on the board to be like
1325
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:34,100
come on.
Otherwise I spend forever
1326
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:37,200
getting changed and just got
stuck boy got stuck in his
1327
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,800
jumper and it just really
innocent.
1328
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,000
Like he found it funny in the
end but you know he just like
1329
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,700
only children can put two socks
on one foot.
1330
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,700
Only children gets stuck in a
junk.
1331
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:49,800
Alarms in the air, completely
trapped completely completely
1332
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,100
trapped.
Like just somehow Twisted.
1333
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:54,500
It goes, I'm stuck.
And it was just like, just
1334
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:56,600
making this noise, and I was
like, what is that noise?
1335
01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:00,100
I'm stuck.
I just it just cracks me up and
1336
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:01,600
it cracked him.
Are they can only happen in the
1337
01:01:01,607 --> 01:01:03,600
primary school.
I've got one last thing about
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01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,500
clothing that I wanted to go on.
It's at my detriment, okay, then
1339
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:08,600
we'll finish up because you just
made me think of it.
1340
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,500
I remember when I was in school,
so I used to live up north.
1341
01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:14,400
I used to live up near in a
place called runcorn.
1342
01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:16,600
So it's a Northern Town.
If you can be bothered to Google
1343
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,300
that, If you listen and you from
runcorn, probably my family.
1344
01:01:19,300 --> 01:01:20,500
Thanks for listening this far,
guys.
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01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:22,300
Appreciate you.
And I come from.
1346
01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:24,000
I'm calm.
We moved down south.
1347
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:26,600
I'm not saying this is a
north-south thing, I'm just
1348
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,200
explaining out.
This is what happened.
1349
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,800
I joined the new school and any
kid, who knows?
1350
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,400
I joined in history, you've got
to make a really good first
1351
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,400
impression, right.
You've got to make a good first
1352
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,200
impression.
Try and settle in quickly.
1353
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,400
Make new friends and I was a bit
awkward as a child.
1354
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,900
Anyway, as you can put as a
child, I was a bit as a.
1355
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,900
So anyway, I remember joining I
need to go to the toilet was
1356
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:50,200
break time as my first week that
it might have been my first day.
1357
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,200
I can't remember exactly.
But I remember going to the
1358
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,200
toilet and up until that point.
Whether it's just because I went
1359
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,300
to the toilet with my mum, you
know, as a child when your mom
1360
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:00,800
takes you in and she'll just
take you into the ladies
1361
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,500
toilets, maybe when you're
younger and just you can just go
1362
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:08,100
in with her.
So I went into the toilets and
1363
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,500
I've never used a urinal.
I'd never use the urinal up
1364
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,500
until you are free.
I'd always have gone into the
1365
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:15,600
toilet, right?
So my friends, what my new
1366
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,200
friends that I would obviously
trying to Press they both, they
1367
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,700
both went up to the urinal and I
went to go into the toilet and
1368
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:23,100
they're like, oh you having a
poo.
1369
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,600
Not like no.
No, and that's why I'm the way
1370
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,400
and then I'll come here then.
So it's okay, so, whatever to
1371
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,200
the urinal and without knowing
the etiquette of your annoying,
1372
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:36,200
I undid my pants pulled my
trousers and my underwear
1373
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:55,500
downtown apples.
There's that lad who takes his
1374
01:02:55,500 --> 01:03:01,200
trousers around your ankles.
Oh man, that's priceless.
1375
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:04,000
That is hilarious.
We might listen, I've got a
1376
01:03:04,008 --> 01:03:06,200
story as well, but this this
podcast is going to go on
1377
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,300
forever.
So tune in next week because I'm
1378
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:10,700
going to tell you a equally
ridiculous story.
1379
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:13,000
About me a primary school, maybe
there can be something, we
1380
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,600
discuss a bit more next week.
I'm sure I've got some Classics.
1381
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,400
I can't wait, maybe I'll have I
think, as well.
1382
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,100
And if any of you guys have any
storage for one year, in primary
1383
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:21,800
school, doesn't matter if you're
a teacher or not.
1384
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,100
Now we all went to Primary
School.
1385
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:24,600
Yeah.
So why don't you hit his up and
1386
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,100
we'll get some stories for next
time?
1387
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:27,800
The more embarrassing.
The better.
1388
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,500
Thanks for listening this far
guys.
1389
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:31,800
We truly appreciate your support
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1390
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,900
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1391
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:37,300
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1392
01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:40,600
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1393
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,600
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1394
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,700
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01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:46,700
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01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,700
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1399
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,800
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1400
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,800
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1401
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,200
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1402
01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:08,700
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