Ep 70: Surviving The Summer Term, Being A "Fun" Teacher & Tory Collapse

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Hello everyone, welcome back to
another episode of Teach, Sleep

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and Repeat.
My name is Dylan.

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And my name is Hayden.
Hayden Why are we so happy?

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I don't know is there anything
to be happy about right now on

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Friday the 5th of July when we
just found out something big?

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Ohh, that's right, we're both
wearing.

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Black Do you know why it's the
death of the Conservative Party.

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They got obliterated.
Oh my God, I, I'm, I'm genuinely

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never been felt so relieved in
my life ever.

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The death of the Conservative
Party, and I did go straight

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into.
This that's a, that's a big

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bold.
That's a big market.

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Probably not, but whatever.
It's hilarious because they're

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absolutely rinsed.
One thing that really popped out

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for me yesterday.
OK, yeah, I was.

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I was absolutely loving it
because I saw.

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Sorry, what was yesterday?
Was the general election and all

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the results coming in and my
favourite thing that came out

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the general election was that
Gillian Keegan has lost her.

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Seat.
Yeah, it's OK.

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And you know what I was thinking
to myself, do you know what?

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What?
Gillian Keegan, when these big

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figures lose a seat, there might
be some really nuanced argument,

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you know, a nuanced kind of,
let's think of maybe a report

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that we might put together as to
why she lost her seat and all

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the good things she tried to do
and all the obstacles that were

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in her way.
And yeah, you know, phonics was

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done really well.
Maybe she faced these problems

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trying to sort out the rack.
But then I thought, actually,

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Gillian Keegan, she said that we
just need a one word report for

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how well schools are going on
and we can't trust any parents,

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just need one word.
So I guess the public can just

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have one word for Harris,
actually performance.

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Yes.
Whoa, I was going to say bye,

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but you're using expletives.
It's OK, we can beep it out.

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So that's all.
Good.

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Can we not gonna enjoy that
anyway.

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Because I'm not Good job that I
just lost my job as well.

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So I'm joining you, Jillian.
Nice one.

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Yeah, absolutely hilarious.
I've got no sympathy whatsoever

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for them, big names for their
seats, and I'm incredibly,

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incredibly happy.
Excellent.

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Dylan, let's come back.
Let's calm down a bit.

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Let's calm down a bit.
Let's.

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Let's talk elections.
Trust people.

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Who wants to debate when he just
one?

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Why?
We can't.

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We can't list trust anyone.
At least he's nowhere to be

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seen.
No, she's alright.

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She's gone.
She's out.

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Let's go back to that.
We'll come back to that.

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Let's start our week.
Come on.

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Normal episode.
Yep.

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Nothing different.
Are we gonna carry on singing or

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was that just a one off?
I think we did it once.

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Once every four or five years.
OK.

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OK, tune into Chester repeat in
2029 season six episode 4.

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Yeah.
Baby.

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Yeah.
OK.

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Sorry.
How are you?

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Are you OK?
How's your week been?

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I don't really feel like I'm
seeing you this week.

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No.
Yeah, it's been actually quite

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nice.
I don't know why I feel that way

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but.
Quite nice.

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Sorry, hang on, I've not seen
you much this week.

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It's been quite nice.
What one big thing I must say is

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the feedback from last week.
That interview.

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I say our interview, my
interview.

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With Alistair Campbell.
Wasn't there.

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Yeah.
So you weren't there.

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One of the most amounts of
feedback we've ever received.

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Positive, honestly.
But it's been really nice.

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Genuinely.
I've had.

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We had a lot of feedback from
people saying that it was just

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like a really good interview.
Normally chat.

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Yeah.
Normally when people come on the

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podcast, it's a great chat.
I love having people in the

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podcast.
I love chatting to them.

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But this was the one of the
first times really where people

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were like, Oh yeah, it was.
It was like really interesting

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the times of because it was so
relevant to exactly what was

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going on in that moment if
people actually commented on the

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style of like interview.
Because we're interviews, we

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said this before.
I think a lot of the drawback

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previously when we spoke to
people that is like, we're not

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actually interviewers, we just
want to talk to people.

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And that comes across so easy,
doesn't it?

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And the way we question, the way
we mess up our questions or

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whatever, we get talking on.
But you did really good job.

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And you know, these guys don't
know, but I'll expose it right

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now.
But hilariously, Dylan's

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computer.
You probably know this if you

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watched the episode because
there was nothing to watch.

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But Dylan's computer crashed and
he had prepared all these notes

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and question points because.
Both of the books there's.

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A big guess you know the massive
guest to have on you wanna be

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prepared and then Dylan computer
crash and he lost all of his

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notes.
So I think it says something

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because actually you end up
doing that then just off the top

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of your head and it just became
a real conversation, which is

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why I think it was a good.
And I think that's where guests

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in the past where where it's
worked really well is when it

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has turned our conversation on
my head.

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I can think of Sophie.
Sophie's gone a couple of times.

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I feel like she's just my mate
at this point, You know, Lee, Mr

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P, we've spoken to him a lot of
times, outside customers, lots

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of time.
So yeah, no, it was really

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enjoyable and good feedback.
So go and listen to it if you

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haven't.
It's about politics, especially

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topical right now.
And you know, the line in school

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as to where teachers should go
to if possible.

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Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I mean,
going away from that to

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something that happened this
week.

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And you know, one of the things
now I've got a podcast, right?

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I don't know about you, but
things happen sometimes.

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I'm like, I'm gonna mention the
podcast.

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That is our podcast moment right
there.

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And we were on the train coming
back because we went to life

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sized monopoly and it's really
fun.

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So you know, you can you can
search.

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It was really cool.
We came first in second place.

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There was a there was a family
with like an 8 year old who was

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named on the vegetables when he
found out we'd be him.

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But that was fun.
He made sure of that.

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Yeah.
Make sure that you got land

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kids.
I told you before on the

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podcast, Teach, sleep, repeat.
There's winners and losers in

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life, and you gotta learn to
lose.

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What the Tories?
Who's Mr Don't worry, man.

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But I was on the way back on the
train and it was quite a packed

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train so that you know, when
awkwardly when someone has to

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sit right next to you.
I hate that.

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But anyway, fine, probably with
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And there's this gym dude, big,
big gym dude.

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Ohh, yeah, big gym dude.
And I was like big buff guy.

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Like you know when when someone
like shoulders on your shoulder?

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You can start.
You can, you can say what you

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want.
I was like, you know, against

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the window, like, ohh, gosh.
Reached into his bag and he got

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out of the top aware box.
The state.

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It wasn't even part of the.
Chicken, I guess.

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Chicken and rice.
No, it's just an entire chicken,

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right?
Just just an entire chicken.

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Peri peri marinade stunk like it
would be in that Tupperware box

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for three days, right?
And I, I kid you not, he had

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just a thought.
He put a fork into the chicken.

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I was just eating it off the
fork like out out here like

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candy to be honest.
Only it wasn't melting in his

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mouth.
So it didn't.

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It wasn't finished in 30
seconds, but 5 minutes.

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It's stink.
And I just thought, Oh my God,

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this reminder of Hayden with his
bloody lunches in the start.

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Candy floss for hot buff dudes
on the train.

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She get his number?
I like your chicken.

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No, I didn't share.
I think was appropriate.

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No, he didn't share it with me.
But yeah, I just, I thought of

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your dinners and I think anyone
in the staff room before I got

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thinking of the most crazy
things I've walked in the staff

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room in scenes.
Anything fish, don't do it.

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No, don't do it.
That's just a detriment to

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everyone.
You don't like cheese?

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No, anything that's got that but
like that.

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Mac and cheese.
I don't know what it is about

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Mac and cheese that makes the
cheese so disgustingly smelly,

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but I can't be in the staffroom
if someone's like heated up

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melted cheese.
Rancid.

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It made me think of that one
time I remember walking to the

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staff, you and I saw someone
sitting in the corner eating an

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entire block of cheese out of
the wrapper.

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Just an entire block of cheese.
A core memory.

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It's a core memory of just not
only was it instant, like

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honestly bizarre to me.
It was like it was kind of

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disgusting.
Just unplug so bad for you as

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well.
Like what?

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Would you have for lunch?
I'd half a block of.

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Cheese.
Yeah, OK.

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So what's yeah Oh my I was just
like wow, packed train.

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Just wait, that's funny.
Yeah, it was disgusting.

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You got anything about this
weekend?

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Not really.
No, I wish I would carry.

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On Just carry on, carry on.
The most exciting things

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happened this week is the
election, so I'm just wondering

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what?
Well, there's one other thing I

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had to mention because I just
found it hilarious.

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And it was, I was in my class,
my year four class.

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So I was teaching the climate
zones of the world.

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So temperate zones, snow zones,
all the kind of different zones,

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arid zones, et cetera.
And we were looking at Europe in

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particular.
And one kid put their hand up

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and said, OK, So what climate
zone would do by be.

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And I was like, oh, good
question.

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I mean, I imagine it would be
arid, full of deserts, not much

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rain, but we'd have to look up.
We'd have to look up.

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And I was like, and this kid,
ohh, yeah, OK.

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And another kid put a hand up
straight away when I was

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looking.
Cheers.

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Ohh.
And I was like, yeah, you OK?

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Well yeah, just did you say
arid?

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And I said yeah.
And she goes oh, I didn't know

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Ireland had deserts.
She formant Dublin she got.

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Ohh I say I was like why was
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Going I realised when I was
telling that joke, I'm talking

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to someone hasn't got a clue
about geography.

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And the the buy in Dublin I've
realised.

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It now when he said to buy them
for you and they were really

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like, honestly, if they aren't
Bando they'd gone home.

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But like mum, did you know
Ireland has deserts?

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Miss the point?
Of the hottest It's really hot,

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never rained all Ireland.
It's lovely.

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Anyway, love.
That love that.

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I know you wanna mention one
more thing, so I'm going to come

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in and introduce this for you so
you can pretend that it was my

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thing and.
I have no idea we're talking.

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About the next thing on the
list.

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But you said the last thing, so
I'm saving you here without

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doing it seamlessly.
These guys don't know.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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It's like ohh.
Yeah, you didn't have to mention

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it was my thing.
You could have started talking

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have.
You could have.

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You could have.
I know.

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You're gonna do it anyway, and
I'm gonna start singing.

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Here we go again, but you know
how you got a little bit annoyed

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because, well, you put on
Instagram about someone

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stealing, but I'm going to run
for a second.

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I know you want to right, but I
think this is mentor some you're

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on Instagram all the time.
I'm not the idea that someone

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has downloaded a real that
you've made literally just re

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uploaded it and then chosen not
to use the inbuilt like tagging

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features.
It's just it's just ridiculous

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to me like because they put they
write credit goes to these guys.

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That means nothing.
It doesn't it?

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There's a literal tagging system
that choosing not to use.

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They don't use the.
App I ended up commenting.

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I didn't tell you.
Ohh no, I commented on my

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personal my personal Instagram.
I went on one of the other

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videos pressing though.
Isn't it that you just steal

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literally everyone's content and
upload it and forget how to use

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the tagging system?
Interesting.

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With a little emoji face he's
got like the.

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Umm right, it's a contact for
anyone who's listening.

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What are you on about?
There's this huge Instagram,

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right?
And there's loads of them.

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There's 100K followers, over
100K followers.

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And for context, we're like
knocking on the door of 6K

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followers, which by the way,
unbelievable.

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I'm not actually obsessed with
the number because what's great

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about our followers and
Instagram is that I, I speak to

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so many people on our Instagram.
It's like a proper community, at

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least four.
And one of those risks Sunak,

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who's got job anymore.
So, but yeah, I mean over 100K

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followers.
And like you said, honestly,

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they do it to everyone.
They do to everyone.

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So I did this Instagram post
because they, they took one of

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our most popular reels.
Cause some of like, I don't know

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how many, but a bunch of our
reels have over a million views,

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thousands and thousands of
likes, loads of engagement.

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We get lots of followers from
them.

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That's like one of the way we
grow on Instagram is by posting

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these funny reels.
I try to be funny anyway.

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And there is this, yeah, they
have 100K and they just rip off

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content like from, from, from
creators and they will write in

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plain text underneath their own
caption.

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And then like hidden somewhere
between hashtags and stuff.

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So it's really hard to see
anyway.

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They'll just say credit to and
then type out the names you

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know, out.
Like you said, you can't

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directly go to this page if
you're a random seeing this and

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then says has the gut the goal
to say underneath for credit or

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removal, please DM.
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And I just thought that is
firstly, you're saying credit

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too, knowing you're not
crediting them because then you

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go on to say for credit if you
want credit for your for your

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work that you've literally made.
It's insane.

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And I did an Instagram post and
my Instagram post with more

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generic because again, I said,
look, I know how memes work

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online.
I, I know how this work because

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I've made memes now and I've
seen like, you know, clips of

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famous people saying a line,
which can be put into lots of

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different contexts.
That's how memes work.

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And then I will take that clip
and I'll put my own caption on

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it, Right.
Sometimes we post stuff and then

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people will again, take the
idea, make their own thing.

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Yeah.
And it, and maybe they're kind

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of coming towards the line of
just copying.

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But, you know, maybe I've done
that to other people without

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even noticing myself.
But at least you're taking the

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effort to sit and make your own
real.

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Yeah, sit and make your own.
Different to just download.

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It you can be kind of annoyed at
that, but you just gotta go over

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it because that is the way of
the Internet.

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Fine.
These people literally download

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your literal reel off your post
and then just post it

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themselves.
It's it's your content.

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Yeah, yeah.
And they put it out there and it

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just seems insane to me.
And I had a lot of people

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replied to me and I I thought
when I posted it on our stories,

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I thought I'm just being that
classic moaner on.

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I like maybe maybe I should have
just, you know, cracked on.

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But it really annoyed me.
And I had multiple people

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replied to me.
Mr P ICT replied to me saying,

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oh, my God, don't get me started
on these accounts because he's

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content ripped off constantly.
Yeah.

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The untouchables, Claire
English.

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She got in touch again and said,
oh, my gosh, I've just been

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through this.
Loads of my content is on here.

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Not credited.
She's commented, by the way.

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I've commented.
She's commented, other people

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have commented.
Never heard anything back.

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No teachers, health coach
Charlie got in touch and said,

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Oh my God, it happens all the
time out there.

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So this big content creators out
there who by the way, make

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fantastic content, original
content as well, who just have

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their stuff completely ripped
off and I'm not being funny.

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We're A6000 follower Instagram.
It's not ground breaking, it's

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not huge, it's amazing, but it's
not, you know, Mr P's got over

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150,000, Claire's got over
100,000.

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You know, these are big, big
content creators who are still

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having this stuff completely
ripped off.

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That's really annoying, but
there's just this added extra

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where we're coming from.
Nothing.

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We started this Instagram, this
podcast from nothing.

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We've made these rails, We've
made this podcast, which we hope

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you enjoyed it.
And I know from what people say,

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you really do.
It's frustrating a little bit

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when someone just comes along,
goes, I'll have that, then I'll

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have that, then thank.
You.

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Thank you very much.
I'll have that.

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So just credit us.
That's 100K.

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Teachers follow.
Just don't do it to be honest

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with you.
We'll just have the views on our

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actual.
Video thanks.

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Yeah, you could do share our
real, Yeah, that's a funny real

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our culture.
There's I'll click the share

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button instead of I like to
funny reel.

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I'll go away and just go like
rip them off completely.

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Been around forever.
It's rife on social media.

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It happened back in the YouTube
days, the glory days.

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People would just make duplicate
accounts as well.

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They wouldn't even like pretend
it was like a clips 1.

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They're literally just make an
account had the same name or

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someone else upload all their
content and just try and

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monetise it and get money off
it.

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They do on TikTok, Instagram.
It's very annoying.

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It's crazy and you know what,
whatever followers on Instagram,

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please repeat podcast because
lots of original content come

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along followers and see it
first.

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Sorry, I interrupted a very
important part of the podcast.

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Then I know that we never.
Do that.

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We never do table.
I tell you, I like interrupting

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Starmer.
Let's get back to it.

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Ohh.
Let's play the Jingle and

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politics.
OK, so this episode is about end

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of the school year and the top
tips for surviving and we will

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get onto that.
Yeah, I know we believe it, but

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we we simply have to with the
whole history of this podcast

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recently and people getting in
touch with so many people

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getting in touch, honestly
saying they're really enjoying

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it.
They love they love kind of like

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to chat about it because they've
not been interested before, but

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they're kind of getting into the
politics and just understanding

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what it means.
I had one person very quickly

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message who said, oh, I'm not
even a teacher and I love the

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podcast.
And I was like, oh, that's a

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nice thing.
Like I love the idea of just.

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And she said, oh, yeah, you're
up there with my favourites.

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The rest is politics, which
Alistair Campbell.

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And what's the one with parents
from Josh Widdicombe?

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OHH parenting.
Yeah, yes.

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He said, yeah, yeah, you're
there with my two other

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favourites.
And I was like, that is unreal.

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We're just in this room.
Like for anyone who's watched,

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we're just in a bedroom.
Regularly, Joe Weather father,

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we're just complete.
Like we're just two dudes in my

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small bedroom, my small house,
just just who just press record

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and just Chuck it out online.
Yeah, but you know, it's just

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sometimes you gotta pinch
yourself.

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Like God, we just run this
podcast with these bunch of

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followers who actually love the
it's amazing.

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Anyway, we love you guys.
But with the with the whole

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election and stuff, I just
thought again, you're someone

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who's just, I think you
epitomise the average teacher.

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Not that interested.
See it for the first time.

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You've been asking me a million
questions and I've said, hey,

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just wait a minute, we'll talk
about on the podcast.

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So like first general reaction
is huge Labour win, but a bit

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people, a lot of people are
feeling a bit weird about it.

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Yeah, because right, the the
system is mental to me.

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Yeah.
And I don't know if that's a

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normal opinion, you know, I
mean, I don't know if most

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people are like, yeah, why do we
have this first past the post

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like crazy?
It seems crazy to me that

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basically.
So I looked out earlier, right

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was probably slightly wrong.
There's a few seats left, but

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Labour got 30, fourish percent
of the vote, just over a third,

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right, 34% of the votes, but
they got 63% of the seats yeah.

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And then the the polar opposite
that is Reform, who I can't

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believe how much they got.
They got 14% of the votes but

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got nought .6% of the seats.
And that to me, I was like, oh,

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that's just mental.
And obviously the other between

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Conservatives had, you know,
their version of that weird

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ratio, but I just don't, I just
don't get it.

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Like, why, why do we do that?
Why do we not have proportional

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represent representation?
Because in as much as I don't

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like reform and I'm and this
system is benefiting me this

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time hasn't done in the past.
I do actually think it's mental

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that 4 million people who vote
for reform, basically none of

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them, none of them counted 4
seats.

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They got four seats.
Well, in the whole of Europe,

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right, it's us and Belarus, like
the Russian, like, you know,

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mate, we're the only two who do
this kind of first past the

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post.
Yeah.

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And there's been this whole
thing.

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And the problem with first past
the post in terms of changing it

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is the people who benefit from
it are usually the people in

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power.
So when it comes to changing it,

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right, the people in power are
like, I've benefited from it

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because I'm in charge now, so
I'll only lose out from

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something, this system.
So every time it kind of comes

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round and there was a vote on
proportional representation when

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we were about 16, there was a
referendum.

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Essentially.
It went out to the public and

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the public rejected it and for a
number of reasons, but.

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Was that vote proportional?
Yeah, it was just, yes, I think

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so.
Anyway, I'll be interesting.

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But again, because the main big
two parties really pushed and

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campaigned to not change it.
Yeah.

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So when you hear everyone as an
MP, well, not everyone, but most

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people back then say no, no, no,
no, it's it's good because of

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this, because of that, it does a
lot of things right.

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I completely agree with you.
It seems completely undemocratic

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and weird, doesn't it, That
whatever you think about these

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parties, if a party gets 4
million votes and only gets four

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seats, that seemed, that does
seem.

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Insane.
It's not representing the

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people.
And if the parliament is to

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represent the people, to me I'm
like, there's something wrong

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in.
That yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And with first past the post, a
lot of the things people say is

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like why it's good.
Yeah.

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Is it.
It does suppress the extremes

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you normally because it's really
hard to get into power.

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So to get into power you've got
to have lots of spread out

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support.
So for example, one of the

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biggest things is comparison I'm
seeing at the minute between

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Corbyn and 2017 and Starmer in
2024.

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Right.
So Corbyn in 2017 got more votes

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than Starmer did this time
around.

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Corbyn lost, didn't get a
majority.

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It was a Conservative,
Conservative want formed

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government.
This time around, Labour have a

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complete landslide, one of the
biggest victories ever.

454
00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:21,560
And the reason why is because
Corbyn was winning loads of

455
00:18:21,570 --> 00:18:24,000
votes in places where he was
already in front.

456
00:18:24,090 --> 00:18:28,640
So let's say you know, this time
around when Labour won a seat,

457
00:18:28,770 --> 00:18:31,440
right, they were winning with
like 35% of the vote.

458
00:18:31,790 --> 00:18:35,080
Tories maybe had 30% of the
vote, Reform maybe had 20% of

459
00:18:35,090 --> 00:18:37,000
the vote.
And, and then you would think,

460
00:18:37,010 --> 00:18:40,560
OK, well, actually the Labour
had just enough votes to win

461
00:18:40,570 --> 00:18:42,380
that seat.
And then in the next

462
00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:45,190
constituency, they may be one
with 35%.

463
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,210
Tories had 25% before my 25%
sure.

464
00:18:48,220 --> 00:18:50,770
Whereas previously across those
two seats, it might have been

465
00:18:50,780 --> 00:18:54,710
Labour had 70% and 0 in the
other seat, same amount of

466
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,300
votes.
But in in Corbyn situation, he

467
00:18:57,310 --> 00:19:00,510
wins 1 CR 2 in care situation in
two year 2.

468
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,070
So basically when the when the
election happens, you have loads

469
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,180
of mini elections in your local
area.

470
00:19:05,250 --> 00:19:09,350
And if, if, if, you know, Reform
got 20% in every single seat,

471
00:19:09,740 --> 00:19:11,870
right?
They've got 20% of the vote and

472
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,940
one absolutely no.
Seat, which is basically what

473
00:19:13,950 --> 00:19:15,350
happened.
You know, they got four seats,

474
00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,500
which is, and the other way to
look at it is right, in only

475
00:19:18,510 --> 00:19:22,080
four areas of the country did
reform win more votes than

476
00:19:22,090 --> 00:19:23,900
everyone else.
Yeah, that's the other way of

477
00:19:23,910 --> 00:19:25,220
looking at it.
And it's like, OK, well, that

478
00:19:25,230 --> 00:19:28,240
means that in every area you
pick, people would have rather

479
00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,310
have had a Lib Dem candidate
than a Reform candidate.

480
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,660
People would rather have had a
Labour candidate than a Reform

481
00:19:32,670 --> 00:19:34,230
candidate.
People have had a Conservative

482
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,460
candidate than a Reform
candidate.

483
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:37,540
So there there is ways of
looking at it where you're like,

484
00:19:37,550 --> 00:19:38,940
well, like, OK, kind of makes
sense.

485
00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:40,850
It's still democratic.
Yeah, there's lots of many

486
00:19:40,860 --> 00:19:41,960
votes.
Yeah, there's lots of many

487
00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:42,940
votes.
And you gotta look at it as

488
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:45,310
constituency.
Whereas if it was PR just vote,

489
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,350
right, you wouldn't be voting
for your local past anymore.

490
00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:50,490
You just be voting for a
percentage of representation in

491
00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:51,710
government.
Yeah, so sure.

492
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,010
And I think if that happened,
right, I think it's impossible

493
00:19:55,020 --> 00:19:57,130
to kind of translate these votes
because of so much tactical

494
00:19:57,140 --> 00:20:01,030
voting this time.
So many people voted to to get

495
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,530
out the Conservatives.
So for example, if it was

496
00:20:04,540 --> 00:20:07,540
proportional representation and
I simply was voting for the

497
00:20:07,550 --> 00:20:11,430
party who is aligned with the
most, I'm not even sure I would

498
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,610
have voted for Labour.
Yeah.

499
00:20:12,660 --> 00:20:15,140
So if I look at all of the
policies on a piece of paper and

500
00:20:15,150 --> 00:20:17,090
I think who do I actually kind
of get behind?

501
00:20:17,170 --> 00:20:19,320
I quite like some of the stuff
the Greens are saying.

502
00:20:19,390 --> 00:20:21,030
I think some of the stuff, I
don't think all of it is

503
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,390
amazing.
I think lots of it is really

504
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,080
good.
Yeah.

505
00:20:23,090 --> 00:20:25,170
I quite like some of the things
that Lib Dems are saying about

506
00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:27,400
social care.
I quite like some of the things

507
00:20:27,410 --> 00:20:30,240
Labour were saying in terms of
being fiscally responsible, but

508
00:20:30,250 --> 00:20:32,920
doing it with like a good heart
and working hard and care,

509
00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:34,480
saying we need to go back to
public service.

510
00:20:34,490 --> 00:20:36,220
I I like that serving the
people.

511
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:39,400
I like that kind of, you know,
sentiment wherever he does.

512
00:20:39,410 --> 00:20:41,000
It.
I'm not worried about leaving.

513
00:20:41,370 --> 00:20:42,740
That was nice.
What do you mean?

514
00:20:42,750 --> 00:20:44,760
Yeah, when I'm out.
That was nice.

515
00:20:44,770 --> 00:20:45,620
I.
Know what?

516
00:20:45,630 --> 00:20:48,090
I listened to Rishi with say his
speech, right?

517
00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,480
Yeah.
And I was like, why didn't you

518
00:20:49,490 --> 00:20:50,970
talk like that for the last two
years?

519
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,710
I know he he was so like I was
like, well, there is we could be

520
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,640
like this instead.
You could just be lovely like

521
00:20:56,650 --> 00:20:58,250
that and and.
Really, you know what they they

522
00:20:58,260 --> 00:21:00,010
left with their tails between
their legs didn't?

523
00:21:00,020 --> 00:21:02,050
I saw quite a lot of the
speeches from some of the

524
00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:03,170
cabinet members that lost.
There.

525
00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:04,320
But it was nice to see, wasn't
it?

526
00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:05,930
That they were accepting.
They were they were very

527
00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:07,660
respectful.
I found I didn't hear anyone

528
00:21:07,670 --> 00:21:09,690
that was like, ohh, yeah, it's
only cause of this and this they

529
00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:10,990
all seem quite respectful.
Maybe that was the.

530
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,300
Other because they could have
said, well, without reform we'd

531
00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:14,390
be winning.
Yeah, exactly.

532
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,510
But they just said no, sorry.
Yeah, we weren't good.

533
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,690
Enough time to prepare.
They knew.

534
00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:19,960
They knew they had time to
prepare that they, you know,

535
00:21:19,970 --> 00:21:23,360
they could think it through.
But yeah, just just mad.

536
00:21:23,370 --> 00:21:26,350
So yeah, anyway, back to the
proportional representation.

537
00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:28,090
I get the.
I do get the pros and cons, but

538
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:29,280
I don't know.
I still know which one I think

539
00:21:29,290 --> 00:21:31,230
is better.
Though, Well, the other pro for

540
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,650
the system right now, OK, it's a
pro in one way, 35% of the vote.

541
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,940
But Labour now in government,
Genuinely, if Keir Starmer has

542
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:43,530
something he wants to get done,
it will almost certainly get

543
00:21:43,540 --> 00:21:44,250
through.
Yeah.

544
00:21:44,260 --> 00:21:47,270
Whereas when the majority is
much lower and closer to half,

545
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,410
there might be a chunk of people
in the Labour Party who rebel.

546
00:21:50,420 --> 00:21:52,830
Do you know we've seen for the
Tories for the last however long

547
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:55,490
a chunk of the Tories were like,
no, no, that's not acceptable in

548
00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,600
go further hard right.
This is not, no, this is not

549
00:21:57,610 --> 00:21:59,720
good for immigration.
This is not good for Brexit

550
00:21:59,730 --> 00:22:01,660
generally couldn't get Brexit
deal through for like 4 years.

551
00:22:01,670 --> 00:22:03,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because the Conservatives were

552
00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:05,840
like, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah.
And then that took you past

553
00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:07,720
halfway and you couldn't pass
any laws, everything.

554
00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:11,220
That's whereas now Labour have
411 or 12, wherever it ends up

555
00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:14,980
on, they only need 326 yes votes
to ever put a law through.

556
00:22:14,990 --> 00:22:17,240
Yeah.
So even if there's a sizeable

557
00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:19,860
majority, like 40 MP's saying
like, no, no, I can't stand for

558
00:22:19,870 --> 00:22:21,900
this, they'll still be able to
get stuff through.

559
00:22:21,910 --> 00:22:25,040
So my, my point right now, I
completely understand people

560
00:22:25,050 --> 00:22:28,670
being like, no, I do bloody I
vote for Labour, but you know,

561
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,310
they've moved much further away
from what I believe in and I'm

562
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,970
only doing it to get rid of the
Tories and stuff.

563
00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:35,290
I completely sympathise with
that and I get it completely and

564
00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:38,800
I probably agree with you.
But now Labour are in, we've got

565
00:22:38,810 --> 00:22:40,410
we've got to judge them on what
they do.

566
00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:42,030
Like give them a chance to do
something.

567
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,830
If it's if it's the same old and
they do nothing.

568
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:45,850
Next time I'll vote differently.
I'm with you.

569
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:49,110
But this vote was all about
getting the Tories out and

570
00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,360
goodness me it bloody.
Well, they really got them out.

571
00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,730
Yeah, there's one seat that I'm
very pleased about.

572
00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:56,060
There's one little there's one
little guy that will be there in

573
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:58,640
Parliament and I'll be thinking,
ohh, Pat, go on.

574
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:59,880
Ohh, Jess up.
Ohh.

575
00:22:59,890 --> 00:23:02,510
Yeah, Jerry, he won his was N
Easington or whatever it is.

576
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,480
Yeah, he won.
He won his seat there.

577
00:23:05,490 --> 00:23:07,810
Yeah, yeah, very comfortably.
And I was quite pleased about

578
00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:09,880
that.
Again, is the is the is the

579
00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:13,120
power of, you know, an incumbent
MP who actually does stuff with

580
00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:14,460
the local community.
He's very popular.

581
00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:17,380
In the community, I know there's
a Tory politician very close to

582
00:23:17,390 --> 00:23:19,740
like next door to our
constituency who everyone

583
00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:21,780
thought would lose because
they're sentiment of the country

584
00:23:21,790 --> 00:23:24,880
is, you know, Labour out.
But he's been MP in in that

585
00:23:24,890 --> 00:23:28,910
place for like 30-40 years.
He's done loads, he's built up

586
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,910
loads of community.
Like, you know, he's done stuff

587
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,710
for people.
He wants to reopen the airport.

588
00:23:32,780 --> 00:23:36,330
So when he won, I was like, OK.
You know, it makes sense.

589
00:23:36,420 --> 00:23:39,990
We we focus on the big Tory
names all the time.

590
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,470
We think of Tory and I think of
Jacob Rees-mogg is Trustpilot

591
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,210
brought this like, ohh, I hate
them.

592
00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:49,770
But you know what there are,
there are bound to be hundreds

593
00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:53,030
of Tory MP's who really, really,
really just wanted to do a good

594
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,820
job.
And like you said, we got the

595
00:23:54,830 --> 00:23:56,370
people that will just do a good
job as well.

596
00:23:56,380 --> 00:23:58,140
So, you know, let's not take
that away.

597
00:23:58,150 --> 00:23:59,630
From you, and that's exactly
right.

598
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,530
And it's not automatically bad.
Some of them reflected, I saw a

599
00:24:02,540 --> 00:24:05,310
few random speeches come up on
BBC like of Tory people I've

600
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,030
never heard of but you know,
clearly lost their seats or

601
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,240
whatever in other places.
And they were just saying things

602
00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:12,590
like, it's such a shame that my
party has spent the last,

603
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,750
however, however long, just
being self-serving interests and

604
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,470
all this stuff.
And it's like, and it's not what

605
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,600
this is supposed to be about.
It's not what this job is about.

606
00:24:20,610 --> 00:24:21,950
They've not been doing their job
properly.

607
00:24:22,010 --> 00:24:23,790
And now I've lost that on my
seat because my party is not

608
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,580
doing anything.
Yeah.

609
00:24:24,590 --> 00:24:26,940
And they were really, really
like condemning it.

610
00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:27,810
And I thought it was.
Good.

611
00:24:27,850 --> 00:24:30,840
Yeah.
And that's where I've matured

612
00:24:30,850 --> 00:24:31,880
slightly.
I still don't like the

613
00:24:31,890 --> 00:24:33,760
Conservatives.
I still wouldn't vote for them,

614
00:24:33,810 --> 00:24:35,810
especially in the current system
when they're rife with these

615
00:24:35,820 --> 00:24:38,320
people who, like you, spoke
about the fact Jacob Rees-mogg

616
00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:40,680
can be a politician and be put
in a position of power and a

617
00:24:40,690 --> 00:24:42,320
cabinet.
I'm not cool.

618
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:44,260
No go.
I'm never voting for that.

619
00:24:44,330 --> 00:24:46,580
But I do get it, like, and I
said it a million times, you

620
00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:49,500
know, people like Rory Stewart
when he does his podcast, he was

621
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:51,000
a Conservative MP.
Hmm.

622
00:24:51,050 --> 00:24:54,470
When you hear him speak about
things now, it's like, I kind of

623
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,690
get it.
I kind of get what you mean.

624
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:57,940
I don't hate you, you know, I
don't just hate you just because

625
00:24:57,950 --> 00:24:59,650
you're a Tory.
I kind of understand your aims.

626
00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:03,610
And, and he hates Boris Johnson
and he hates Liz Truss, like I

627
00:25:03,620 --> 00:25:04,870
hate them.
So then we've got some common

628
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,870
ground and I'm like, OK, well,
you know, there is a different

629
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,630
way of doing stuff as well.
But it's really interesting, you

630
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,310
know, in general, in general, in
general election in general,

631
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,680
general.
It was for me when I summed up

632
00:25:18,690 --> 00:25:20,940
with was relief, that was, it
was relief.

633
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:25,060
I wasn't, I wasn't excited.
I'm not, I'm not enamoured by

634
00:25:25,070 --> 00:25:28,700
Labour, no, but I'm relieved
beyond belief.

635
00:25:28,790 --> 00:25:31,400
If the Tories have got in after
what's happened in the last five

636
00:25:31,410 --> 00:25:33,920
years, I, I, honestly, it would
be the end game.

637
00:25:33,930 --> 00:25:35,490
I'd be OK.
There's not, there's nothing

638
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,940
that can happen anymore.
If if there, if the country

639
00:25:37,950 --> 00:25:40,040
looked at them and thought,
yeah, carry on, yeah, cool.

640
00:25:40,090 --> 00:25:42,060
But that's the end of this
democracy as we know.

641
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:42,670
It.
Yeah, No, I agree.

642
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,780
I agree.
There's one thing I want to talk

643
00:25:43,790 --> 00:25:46,030
before we move on with this
because you might, you might be

644
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,720
able to enlighten me.
But it's the whole, right?

645
00:25:47,770 --> 00:25:50,650
So I think the form, yeah, came
in clutch.

646
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:52,870
What do you mean?
I, I, I looked at like when I

647
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,010
was last night, as all the, you
know, the site was popping up

648
00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:57,850
and I kept looking at the kind
of vote share and, and it would

649
00:25:57,860 --> 00:26:02,430
be things like Labour 14,000
votes, Conservatives, 10,000

650
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,890
votes, Reform 5000 votes.
And I was looking at that.

651
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:08,110
And some of them were like
basically the Conservative plus

652
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,810
reform in a lot of areas, if you
add them together was

653
00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:13,510
significantly higher than the
Labour win, right?

654
00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:15,970
And I was like, you know what,
even if half of those reform

655
00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:20,220
votes were just Tories that are
just more quite right wing, and

656
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:22,030
then, you know, they've just
shifted to Reform and half of

657
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,150
them were just whatever, just, I
don't know, people doing

658
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,120
whatever, you know, just being
what's the word I'm looking for?

659
00:26:27,130 --> 00:26:29,260
Just doing it in protest,
protest, protest vote.

660
00:26:29,930 --> 00:26:32,330
Even if half of them I was like
they would still if reform

661
00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:34,540
didn't exist and half the people
voted for conservatives which

662
00:26:34,550 --> 00:26:36,600
would have been the next most
right party, yeah sure.

663
00:26:36,670 --> 00:26:38,720
Then they would have won so many
more seats.

664
00:26:38,730 --> 00:26:44,460
So the way I see it is Reform
absolutely obliterated the

665
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:47,760
Conservative Party because it
just split the vote everywhere.

666
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,880
Completely.
And and that that is what Reform

667
00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:51,490
are running on.
They were running on that.

668
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:55,500
They they literally ran on we we
need to destroy the Conservative

669
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:56,910
Party.
And I said, I think I said on

670
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,900
the podcast, I remember I said
to you in general, Farage's plan

671
00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:01,730
is absolutely not.
That's the Reform plan.

672
00:27:01,820 --> 00:27:04,610
The Reform plan was to destroy
the Tories so much.

673
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:08,460
And even though Reform have four
MP's now, they have an amazing

674
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:09,470
amount of power.
Yeah.

675
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,020
Because what they, they have
basically the Tories bent over a

676
00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:15,710
barrel because the the Tories
now have to make a decision, OK,

677
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,130
they need to win back those
votes.

678
00:27:17,140 --> 00:27:19,290
The Tories, there's two ways you
can do this.

679
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,790
They can merge with Reform, move
to the right, become a right

680
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,910
leaning party.
That seems to be what people are

681
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,700
scared of.
People seem to be scared of that

682
00:27:27,710 --> 00:27:29,550
because, like you, they'll say,
well, OK, we'll add the

683
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,150
Conservative and the Reform vote
together.

684
00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:32,880
Oh my God, they're gonna win all
these seats.

685
00:27:33,010 --> 00:27:35,940
I would be a bit less.
It's less obvious than that to

686
00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:37,720
me.
There are a lot of people who

687
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:40,580
voted Conservative again this
time round, who were more

688
00:27:40,590 --> 00:27:44,060
moderate, who absolutely chose
not to vote for Reform because

689
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:47,360
they think Reform are
incredibly, like, crazy insane.

690
00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:49,470
And I think far too far right
don't make any sense.

691
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,520
They're not credible.
They say things which they

692
00:27:51,530 --> 00:27:54,460
literally know don't make sense.
They're going to cut taxes and

693
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:56,750
cut the waiting list for the NHS
without borrowing money.

694
00:27:56,790 --> 00:27:59,740
It literally doesn't make sense.
Like it's not actually costed.

695
00:27:59,830 --> 00:28:01,380
It's not a thing that can
happen.

696
00:28:01,390 --> 00:28:03,720
Yeah, Farage said that himself.
It was just an idea.

697
00:28:03,730 --> 00:28:05,990
It's just what we want to do.
Like he knows he's not gonna get

698
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,770
in power.
Yeah.

699
00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:08,590
So what I would say if that
happens, I think there'll be a

700
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,970
lot of Tory voters who voted
Tory this time round who won't

701
00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:14,190
vote for a joined party.
So it won't be as simple as just

702
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,850
adding up those votes.
I don't think if, if Labour

703
00:28:16,860 --> 00:28:18,910
start delivering in the next
five years, that's the other way

704
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,690
that we can stop this.
So if, if Labour actually start

705
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:24,670
to do stuff that people can
tangibly hold on to it and say

706
00:28:24,810 --> 00:28:27,590
politics has done this for me.
I said this a million times.

707
00:28:27,780 --> 00:28:30,070
I can't think of my adult life,
something I can point to and

708
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,440
hold and go, wow, politics did
this.

709
00:28:32,570 --> 00:28:35,060
I can think of my childhood of
sure, start centres opening.

710
00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:37,600
Wow, that's amazing.
I could think of the the funding

711
00:28:37,610 --> 00:28:40,080
that schools got.
I can think of Blair pushing

712
00:28:40,270 --> 00:28:42,460
same day or next day GP
appointments.

713
00:28:42,530 --> 00:28:44,180
Cool.
That's a tangible thing that I

714
00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:47,640
can see the NHS waiting lists
come down, you know, peace in

715
00:28:47,650 --> 00:28:49,040
Northern Ireland, all that kind
of thing.

716
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,330
What what Starmer has to do in
the next five years is tangibly

717
00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:56,070
improve people's lives,
something he has to be honestly,

718
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,250
honestly, he has to just do
something where people can say,

719
00:28:59,260 --> 00:29:01,880
point to it and say my life is
better because Keir Starmer's

720
00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:03,310
government did this thing.
Yeah, yeah.

721
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,780
If that doesn't happen, if he's
just beige like people are

722
00:29:05,790 --> 00:29:09,240
worried about is going to happen
the next time around, they'll be

723
00:29:09,250 --> 00:29:11,330
squeezed.
And you've seen the the swing

724
00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:13,540
Labour had this time.
Labour went from their worst

725
00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:15,310
result ever to one of their best
results ever.

726
00:29:15,580 --> 00:29:17,740
That it can happen again the
other way around like this.

727
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:19,630
There is nothing you can take
for granted anymore.

728
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,810
It used to be that if Labour had
this landslide at least two

729
00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:24,690
times, maybe three, because only
chips away.

730
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,160
Yeah, put with social media and
tactical voting and people

731
00:29:28,170 --> 00:29:31,130
knowing exactly what they need
to do to kick a government out.

732
00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:32,640
Look what they've done to the
Tories, right?

733
00:29:32,650 --> 00:29:34,470
No.
Yeah, It it will happen again.

734
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,750
So.
So Labour have to deliver now.

735
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,630
And if they don't, I'll be the
first person stood.

736
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,740
They're saying it's your own
fault.

737
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:41,090
You've got a majority, get stuff
done.

738
00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:43,220
Yeah, yeah, got a majority.
Five years to do it.

739
00:29:43,230 --> 00:29:44,970
Come on, come on.
You're absolutely right.

740
00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:50,180
Reform in 2019 pulled out of a
lot of the Tory seats they were

741
00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:53,280
going for and didn't run.
So that vote wasn't split.

742
00:29:53,690 --> 00:29:55,950
So all I'll say is, again, this
has been rumbling for a long

743
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,950
time.
It's not like suddenly there are

744
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,740
these people who, you know,
would have voted reform and

745
00:30:00,750 --> 00:30:02,960
populism.
Amazingly on the surge, it's

746
00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:05,830
like, oh, it's gone up by 20%.
No, no, those people voted for

747
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,660
Boris Johnson, One, because
Boris Johnson was flattening

748
00:30:08,670 --> 00:30:11,320
with them and wanted to do
Brexit, and two, because reform

749
00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:14,680
didn't run in those seats.
So it's not like suddenly we've

750
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:16,840
got this massive surge.
We've always, they've always

751
00:30:16,850 --> 00:30:19,300
been those people there.
They just, they were

752
00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:20,960
disenfranchised with the Tories
right now.

753
00:30:21,010 --> 00:30:23,270
The Tories lost this election.
Labour.

754
00:30:23,370 --> 00:30:27,460
What does scare me though, it's
like even still is considering

755
00:30:27,470 --> 00:30:29,810
how bad of a job the Tories have
done right in the last four

756
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:32,670
years, like they they couldn't
they couldn't be any worse,

757
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,740
right?
And still there are right wing

758
00:30:34,750 --> 00:30:36,600
party.
And then you got the right of of

759
00:30:36,670 --> 00:30:41,120
reform that they still total up
like 50% of the votes.

760
00:30:41,470 --> 00:30:44,620
And I'm like, God, this is this
is when the Tories have done the

761
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:47,600
worst ever job ever and 50% of
the population still like, yeah,

762
00:30:47,610 --> 00:30:50,680
I think right wing is the way to
go with these parties that just.

763
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:54,640
Well, there's a lot of people
have the opinion the Tory party

764
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,440
financially are not very right
wing.

765
00:30:57,450 --> 00:31:00,390
They're quite centre centrist,
highest tax burden ever.

766
00:31:00,550 --> 00:31:03,580
Yeah, you know, this idea
they're right on some things

767
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:05,740
like you might think immigration
policy around those like more

768
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:08,380
right wing socially, yeah, but
Fisk like fiscally in terms of

769
00:31:08,390 --> 00:31:11,090
economics, they've borrowed
loads because of COVID.

770
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,280
They put loads of money into
people's pockets and stuff.

771
00:31:13,290 --> 00:31:16,190
The tax burden is really high.
There's people who argue they're

772
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,780
not right wing enough, but you
know, you mean in terms of they

773
00:31:18,790 --> 00:31:20,920
they have this stigma.
If you've Victoria on the right

774
00:31:20,990 --> 00:31:24,180
and and what you tend to do is
you add, you'll add up Torian

775
00:31:24,190 --> 00:31:25,860
reform and get an idea of the
right.

776
00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:27,660
Yeah.
You add up Lib Dem, Green and

777
00:31:27,670 --> 00:31:29,080
Labour and get an idea of the
left.

778
00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:32,320
And one of the things that has
always happened is that the left

779
00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:35,100
vote have been split three ways,
which has allowed the

780
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:37,960
Conservatives to walk in and
have these like, yeah, have left

781
00:31:37,970 --> 00:31:39,940
fewer votes, but seem to always
manage to get a majority.

782
00:31:39,950 --> 00:31:40,810
Yeah.
But one of them.

783
00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:41,780
Yeah.
And what's happened finally

784
00:31:41,790 --> 00:31:44,200
happened this time is the other
way round happened that that

785
00:31:44,210 --> 00:31:45,880
vote and the right has been
completely split down the

786
00:31:45,890 --> 00:31:47,360
middle.
And we've seen what happens when

787
00:31:47,370 --> 00:31:50,020
that when that comes around a
huge majority of Labour, who

788
00:31:50,090 --> 00:31:52,350
again, for a lot of people
aren't left wing enough.

789
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:54,880
That's why they wanted the Lib
Dems to be the 2nd party, to

790
00:31:54,890 --> 00:31:56,440
hold them to account.
Yeah, absolutely.

791
00:31:57,010 --> 00:31:59,090
I was gonna say just wanna shout
to the Greens because.

792
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:00,190
They got like 2 million.
Votes.

793
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,750
They absolutely smashed their
number.

794
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Of votes like people are very
interested in them.

795
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,830
Yeah, and they've got, I think,
4 seats, 4 the same as Reform.

796
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,260
Which is the most I've ever had,
isn't it because.

797
00:32:08,270 --> 00:32:11,160
They don't have one seat.
So yeah, interesting.

798
00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:13,580
It's really interesting.
And I think what a lot of

799
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:17,080
teachers in particular listening
maybe are thinking is, OK, cool,

800
00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:18,940
I did that thing, I got the
Tories out.

801
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:20,230
Now that's bloody.
See something?

802
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,280
Different.
Yeah, I know.

803
00:32:21,390 --> 00:32:23,080
And I don't know about you.
From what I've seen from Bridget

804
00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:25,320
Phillipson, she did an interview
with Alastair Campbell.

805
00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:28,900
Interview.
Mr P Yeah, she says things that

806
00:32:28,910 --> 00:32:32,500
I'm like, OK, you sound serious.
You sound like you take this job

807
00:32:32,510 --> 00:32:33,980
seriously.
You don't sound Gillian Keegan,

808
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:36,220
who demonised us every possible
turn.

809
00:32:36,290 --> 00:32:39,470
Yeah, she sounds like someone
who wants to listen to teachers.

810
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,980
Yeah, and he just wants to do a
good job.

811
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:45,120
Like I felt with Gillian Keegan
sometimes she almost spoke like

812
00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:47,370
a PR person.
Yeah, she almost spoke like just

813
00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:49,950
someone defending the fact it's
crap like that.

814
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,950
They weren't doing much.
She's like it was never, she

815
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,200
never really come out and said
we're gonna be OK.

816
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:57,240
I you're the professional.
You're saying this, we're gonna

817
00:32:57,250 --> 00:32:59,440
try and do this for you.
It was new.

818
00:33:00,130 --> 00:33:02,540
Lots of schools are good now she
might.

819
00:33:02,590 --> 00:33:03,940
I'm sorry, I'm telling you it's
bad.

820
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:06,730
I think it's good.
Yeah, yeah.

821
00:33:06,740 --> 00:33:08,190
It's like, no, who are you?
Sorry.

822
00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:10,800
Well, who is she exactly?
You know, washing gonna be doing

823
00:33:10,810 --> 00:33:11,660
now?
She might get a job as a

824
00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:13,670
teacher.
Well, she might need a job.

825
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,150
She needs a job and it's so
easy.

826
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,230
And you know which is crack.
She could, she could just come

827
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,710
and show us how it's done that
actually now that she is

828
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,510
jobless.
Jobless that maybe that's one

829
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,710
way judgement we could give a
jobless jobless.

830
00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:28,730
Right, let's Jingle again and
actually get to the end of the

831
00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:31,870
episode.
Right.

832
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,140
We've had a busy few weeks.
Like this was a, this was an

833
00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:35,700
episode we wanted to do like two
or three weeks ago.

834
00:33:35,710 --> 00:33:37,330
You know when time six was at
the start?

835
00:33:37,670 --> 00:33:40,720
Yeah, I would have just.
Thought yeah, because as you've

836
00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:42,390
picked on this and you've got
this far.

837
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:46,890
Top tips for yesterday Make sure
you tune in in the past.

838
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:50,140
Make sure you vote, vote for the
Conservative Party or it's

839
00:33:50,150 --> 00:33:52,350
already over.
So yeah, this was my top tip.

840
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,590
The end of the school year.
It's just going to be, you know,

841
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,770
just maybe a conversation now
because we've got about 3 weeks

842
00:33:57,780 --> 00:34:00,530
left.
It seems like feels like a long

843
00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:02,900
time now.
So hopefully last few weeks.

844
00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:04,720
This is helpful for you guys.
And you know what, if you're

845
00:34:04,730 --> 00:34:07,270
listening now, hmm, good for any
years time.

846
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,810
So yeah, save this podcast.
Give us a review very quickly if

847
00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:14,260
you are listening and you
haven't given us a.

848
00:34:14,270 --> 00:34:15,570
Review yet I think we have to
do.

849
00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:18,230
Please give us a review because
I keep forgetting to ask and

850
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:21,850
they're really helpful for us.
We're closing in on 100 and 800.

851
00:34:23,350 --> 00:34:24,840
No, I'm serious.
Do it now, OK?

852
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,909
You could they could pause like
no, no need to pause.

853
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,130
Don't to pause.
No what?

854
00:34:30,139 --> 00:34:31,710
So what you're doing right now?
Stop driving.

855
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,750
Stop your.
Car, come on.

856
00:34:35,150 --> 00:34:36,400
Yeah, we're not encouraging
thing.

857
00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:38,600
Also come through.
This Yeah, get in.

858
00:34:38,670 --> 00:34:40,520
OK cool.
So top tips into the school

859
00:34:40,530 --> 00:34:41,580
year.
You don't know what these are.

860
00:34:41,590 --> 00:34:44,000
I put these together, put seven
of my favourite things at the

861
00:34:44,010 --> 00:34:44,980
end of the school year to help
me.

862
00:34:45,020 --> 00:34:47,900
Hmm.
I want you to kind of react to.

863
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:49,840
Them I will.
And tell me how brilliant they

864
00:34:49,850 --> 00:34:50,219
are.
You didn't.

865
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:51,600
Plan the Dome.
The Dome.

866
00:34:51,610 --> 00:34:54,239
If anyone could see our notes no
say a million times, I promise

867
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:58,300
you our notes on the screen,
genuinely 14 words.

868
00:34:58,350 --> 00:35:01,630
So that we wrote 14 seconds
before we started.

869
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,060
Recording Gillian Keegan chicken
on train.

870
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:10,670
Stealing content Arid top.
Right, go on then.

871
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:11,730
Phone.
They're on my phone.

872
00:35:11,740 --> 00:35:17,460
Right, the phone to my Dome.
OK, number one, top tip 4,

873
00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:20,620
summertime is vote Labour.
Jesus Christ.

874
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:22,540
So is the past.
Is this going to be it's going

875
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:25,300
to be painful.
Number one, top time time.

876
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:28,580
Oh my gosh.
This is where time lucky.

877
00:35:28,590 --> 00:35:30,270
This is where we start the
podcast.

878
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,750
I've been having a breakdown.
This is where we did a serious

879
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,230
podcast.
We actually have an editor who

880
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:36,550
cut this.
Out like parenting?

881
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,300
How the rest of politics.
All the ones that are.

882
00:35:39,310 --> 00:35:41,790
Real ones, ones are in the
bedroom.

883
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,230
It's bloody hot in here as well.
Anyway, top tips to survive the

884
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,970
end of the school year #1
outdoor learning.

885
00:35:48,020 --> 00:35:50,430
Now I want to talk about outdoor
learning because I think there

886
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,450
are two types of outdoor
learning.

887
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,210
Number one, in general, don't
patronise, sorry, carry on.

888
00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:57,510
Number one, in general, I just
think it feels good to click

889
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,940
outside when the sun is nice,
when it's not raining obviously.

890
00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:06,080
But there are two dude, I want
you to turn everything into

891
00:36:06,090 --> 00:36:09,390
bloody labour anyway, two types
of outdoor learning and I wonder

892
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,200
what you do more of because
one's easier than the other

893
00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:13,530
Labour the.
Oh my God, that's the one.

894
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:16,910
Funny, I don't know if I can get
through this.

895
00:36:17,530 --> 00:36:21,920
I really don't stop first thing.
Not everyone's listening.

896
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:23,330
Ohh no no, not everyone's
watching.

897
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:25,600
I hope they're listening.
No one's doing either.

898
00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:27,070
Bloody hours into two.
Minutes.

899
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,990
Come on, Dylan.
Ohh, you had such a good time.

900
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:29,810
Alistair Campbell.
You.

901
00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:31,960
They're chewing a proper chat.
You can't even talk to me.

902
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,790
Shut up, honestly #1 outdoor
learning.

903
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,140
And we said.
That two types throughout the

904
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:38,250
learning.
The first type is when you just

905
00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:42,390
literally go outside and do what
you plan to do inside anyway.

906
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,930
So there's no different or so
you're grinning at me, this is

907
00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:47,410
winding me up.
The other type is when you

908
00:36:47,420 --> 00:36:50,770
actually physically plan from
scratch something to do outside.

909
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:54,120
I'm honestly gonna tell you
gonna stop recording now if you

910
00:36:54,130 --> 00:36:56,960
want going on OHH, because this
must be horrible to listen to.

911
00:36:56,970 --> 00:37:00,380
So Larry on actually give the
people what they've come for and

912
00:37:00,390 --> 00:37:02,510
which is actually to plan
something from scratch and go

913
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,180
outside and do it.
So for example, if you're doing

914
00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:06,560
something to do with like
nature, you might from scratch.

915
00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:08,560
Like I'm gonna spend the whole
afternoon in the nature area

916
00:37:08,570 --> 00:37:10,240
outside.
We're gonna go and take pictures

917
00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:12,920
of bugs or sit and do art and
sketch the flowers and all that

918
00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:14,870
kind of thing.
But my point here is you don't

919
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,360
have to do that.
Just just literally embrace the

920
00:37:17,370 --> 00:37:18,720
fact you can go outside and do
your learning.

921
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,860
So for example, at any point in
the summer time we're reading

922
00:37:21,870 --> 00:37:23,620
our class book or something,
We'll just go and sit in the

923
00:37:23,630 --> 00:37:25,590
trade and read it.
Yeah, it it, it's exactly the

924
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,370
same as would have happened in
in the classroom, but we're just

925
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:29,690
outside.
Can I tell you a story?

926
00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:31,730
Is it about like, about this,
about this promise?

927
00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:33,550
I'm done with that one.
It's not funny anymore.

928
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,670
When I was an NQT, right?
I was so desperate to impress

929
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,880
observations and stuff like
that.

930
00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:45,610
One, one time in one of my maths
lessons would bring you back in

931
00:37:45,620 --> 00:37:47,840
the middle of my last lesson.
I was literally like Ricky

932
00:37:47,850 --> 00:37:50,160
Gervais, like doing a look from
the office to the head teacher

933
00:37:50,170 --> 00:37:51,830
who I knew was over in the
corner watching me.

934
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,370
I was like, pick up your books,
kids.

935
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:57,290
Mid lesson we went outside back
door because it was sunny day.

936
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,500
Went and went and went and sat
on the field and like we're

937
00:37:59,510 --> 00:38:02,410
doing our work and our books.
There was like outdoors, isn't

938
00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:03,820
it?
At the end she was like, yeah,

939
00:38:03,830 --> 00:38:06,880
it was nice that you did that.
Could have just done it on the

940
00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:08,300
list though.
No, no act.

941
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:10,250
There was no actual benefit to
you going outside for that, for

942
00:38:10,260 --> 00:38:12,010
this observation.
And I was clearly just trying to

943
00:38:12,020 --> 00:38:13,590
tick a box.
I went outdoors though, didn't

944
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,950
I?
And I but I didn't make any link

945
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,150
to it.
Like I literally just mid task.

946
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,060
Yeah, pick your pens and books
up.

947
00:38:19,070 --> 00:38:21,540
Went outside and did it there,
which I actually think is still

948
00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:23,380
really nice.
But the point of observation,

949
00:38:23,390 --> 00:38:25,200
yeah, trying to make a
difference.

950
00:38:25,210 --> 00:38:26,970
Yeah, but.
She was like, it's cool, it's

951
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:27,980
fine.
Talk about Labour then

952
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:29,120
completely undermine my first
point.

953
00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:30,680
It's absolutely fine, no
problem.

954
00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:33,140
It's not because I still think
it's nice, but.

955
00:38:33,370 --> 00:38:36,080
It's not, it's not gonna, it's
not gonna massively improve

956
00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:37,260
their.
Learning I was trying to take.

957
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:39,480
A yes.
It's it's literally, it's lovely

958
00:38:39,490 --> 00:38:41,100
outside.
Your kids like being outside.

959
00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:42,840
Yeah, just do it.
Sometimes I was thinking the

960
00:38:42,850 --> 00:38:45,330
head would be like, ohh, wow,
that lesson was so improved.

961
00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:46,640
Like they got much more out of
it.

962
00:38:46,650 --> 00:38:48,930
You went outside and actually it
was just a nice environment.

963
00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:51,010
This isn't a way to improve your
teaching.

964
00:38:51,140 --> 00:38:55,760
It simply it's hot and nice
outside, nice outside, enjoyed

965
00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:57,100
it.
But yeah, I did as much as

966
00:38:57,110 --> 00:38:58,430
possible.
So that's my number one thing,

967
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,540
outdoor learning.
And I like the idea of winding

968
00:39:01,550 --> 00:39:03,230
up the other classes, I think.
Pretty funny.

969
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,980
Because if you go outside in my
class you can you can honestly

970
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:08,180
see like 7 classroom windows.
You just see kids at the window

971
00:39:08,190 --> 00:39:10,890
like me out, let me out and let
my class are out.

972
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:13,430
And I know the other teachers
doing what I do, but it's

973
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,460
nothing to do with us.
Is it nothing to do with us?

974
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:18,560
They probably under award.
No, no, just that I wanted to go

975
00:39:18,570 --> 00:39:20,050
outside.
That's my number one thing,

976
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:21,440
outdoor learning.
How would you rate that out?

977
00:39:21,450 --> 00:39:22,730
Ten.
I went to rate every tip out of

978
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:25,270
10.
Probably like 34% of the votes.

979
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,950
My God, I give it.
I'll give.

980
00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:30,250
My God.
I will give.

981
00:39:30,260 --> 00:39:32,970
That please write in and tell me
how fed up you are this man do

982
00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:35,300
you want.
I'm sorry, I'm trying to be

983
00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:36,800
serious.
Podcast, can you take it more

984
00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:38,250
seriously?
Alistair Campbell, you wanna

985
00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:41,880
come and host this with me?
That's good, good tip.

986
00:39:41,890 --> 00:39:46,400
Cool.
I've heard better. #2 ohh #2

987
00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:48,410
this is topical because it's
based on something happened this

988
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:53,230
week and you spoke to me.
No real Oh my God no.

989
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,530
Go on something in school #2
beat the heat.

990
00:39:55,610 --> 00:39:57,870
Check you're especially for male
teachers.

991
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,070
But anyone check your dress
code.

992
00:40:00,130 --> 00:40:02,230
Actually check your dress code
and stay hydrated.

993
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,150
So that's two pronged.
Stay hydrated is obvious.

994
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,480
Just drink, keep drinking.
I do all the time where I'll go

995
00:40:06,490 --> 00:40:09,710
all morning and remember I need
to drink and then and then I'll

996
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:12,230
drink loads in the afternoon.
So drink as much possible.

997
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,530
But the one I want to talk
about, check the dress code.

998
00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:16,530
Schools get incredibly hot in
the summer.

999
00:40:16,580 --> 00:40:20,130
We sometimes up to 32 kids in a
room, no air conditioning,

1000
00:40:20,180 --> 00:40:22,990
sweaty kids, sweaty teacher.
Disgusting.

1001
00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:26,710
Horrible.
Honestly, wearing shirt and tie

1002
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,420
and formal wear in that kind of
environment anyway is horrible,

1003
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:32,550
never mind in the classroom.
So my big hint for people

1004
00:40:32,610 --> 00:40:35,340
literally just go away and
properly read your dress code

1005
00:40:35,350 --> 00:40:36,880
because sometimes you don't do
that.

1006
00:40:36,890 --> 00:40:39,020
Obviously, why would you?
But you make assumptions about

1007
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:42,310
the dress code.
And for example, I wore at the

1008
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,560
start of this week, I want some
chinos and a tucked in polo

1009
00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:48,200
shirt.
Unbelievably more cool.

1010
00:40:48,250 --> 00:40:51,460
Unbelievable as in, as in as in
literally both ways.

1011
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:55,400
But I felt way more comfortable,
less hot, more mobile.

1012
00:40:55,490 --> 00:40:57,370
Yeah.
And it was completely within our

1013
00:40:57,380 --> 00:41:00,190
dress policy because the policy
is for men, a collar.

1014
00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:02,450
A polo comes under that has a
collar.

1015
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:04,090
It's fine.
Whereas I think previously I've

1016
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:06,170
just been like, Oh my God, I got
roll up my sleeves and wearing a

1017
00:41:06,180 --> 00:41:07,270
horrible shirt.
I'm sweating.

1018
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,180
It's just you.
Didn't need your golf bag with

1019
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:11,550
you though.
Like you're trying to make a

1020
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,630
point.
They look like I was in the

1021
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,990
first team, wasn't it?
But it was.

1022
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,790
But my point is, it was
comfortable.

1023
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,230
Yeah, well, within the rules.
Wasn't rubbing any one up the

1024
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,270
wrong way.
And if someone was annoyed, I

1025
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,280
honestly would have just pointed
to all of the female staff

1026
00:41:22,290 --> 00:41:25,600
wearing sandals and leggings and
been like, hey, I think it's OK

1027
00:41:25,610 --> 00:41:27,290
though, isn't it?
That polo shirt.

1028
00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:29,930
Yeah, well, actually, someone
who obviously saw you, he did.

1029
00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:32,520
Your face lab it was.
Funny, because I am one of those

1030
00:41:32,530 --> 00:41:34,300
people.
I was like, I'm not gonna, I'm

1031
00:41:34,310 --> 00:41:36,410
not gonna contemplate wearing
those clothes because it's just

1032
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:38,330
not going to be in the policy.
It's not going to look smart.

1033
00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:41,070
I saw you and I was like ohh it
looks absolutely fine.

1034
00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:44,660
Why have I spent years sweating?
Yeah, but because.

1035
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:47,260
And the other thing, like you
said, was it didn't look

1036
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:49,100
scruffy.
I understand it's professional

1037
00:41:49,110 --> 00:41:50,560
job.
And some people might be like,

1038
00:41:50,570 --> 00:41:51,740
oh, yeah.
But you know, we do need to be

1039
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:53,100
professional.
I think we need to move into

1040
00:41:53,110 --> 00:41:55,080
21st century.
But there's a way to still look

1041
00:41:55,090 --> 00:41:56,480
professional.
Like it was tucked in.

1042
00:41:56,490 --> 00:41:58,680
Yeah, I had a belt on.
I had smart shoes on it.

1043
00:41:58,690 --> 00:41:59,750
It wasn't a problem.
Yeah.

1044
00:41:59,790 --> 00:42:02,740
So beat the heat, check the
dress code, stay hydrated.

1045
00:42:02,810 --> 00:42:05,220
Open your window, your windows.
You know that.

1046
00:42:05,660 --> 00:42:07,160
That three out of 10.
Slightly condescending.

1047
00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:12,650
Only relevant for men.
Carry on, make sure you drink

1048
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:14,250
water.
Everybody ohh, that was part of

1049
00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:19,770
it alright numbers three I find
incredibly overwhelming in time

1050
00:42:19,780 --> 00:42:22,730
6 is the sheer amount of jobs
that have to get done.

1051
00:42:22,860 --> 00:42:25,710
It seems to double and I always
forget it doubles because you've

1052
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,480
got reports to write some
potentially some schools have

1053
00:42:28,490 --> 00:42:33,170
you know, and end of year.
I'm not residential, but I guess

1054
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:34,960
residential as well.
Apparently the end of year your

1055
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:37,020
parents even end of year
performances to get ready for

1056
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:40,380
show all while still delivering
your teaching like that doesn't

1057
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:41,720
change.
You still got that full time job

1058
00:42:41,730 --> 00:42:43,480
of delivering the curriculum
assessment, but there's lots of

1059
00:42:43,490 --> 00:42:45,120
other stuff going on yeah.
You need to upload your teach

1060
00:42:45,130 --> 00:42:46,460
data as well.
You need to assess your kids

1061
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:49,340
formally through data.
You need to obsess it obsessed

1062
00:42:49,350 --> 00:42:52,120
as well assess it as your
teacher assessments.

1063
00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:55,170
It's just loads and loads and
loads of little jobs and you

1064
00:42:55,180 --> 00:42:57,670
might have Ahp's to like finish
off at the end of the year and

1065
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,600
see if they meet their targets
and get ready for next year

1066
00:42:59,670 --> 00:43:01,320
transition.
You need to meet your new class.

1067
00:43:01,330 --> 00:43:03,460
Have notes over from the.
Maybe even consider literally

1068
00:43:03,470 --> 00:43:04,860
moving classrooms.
Literally.

1069
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:06,860
Start in September in a
different classroom, right?

1070
00:43:07,090 --> 00:43:10,140
So big thing for me, and I did
this with reports and I did it

1071
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:12,820
in general with my jobs is I
just boxed stuff up because I

1072
00:43:12,830 --> 00:43:15,080
can't do it otherwise.
So I write my jobs down on

1073
00:43:15,090 --> 00:43:16,960
paper.
I, and the reason I think this

1074
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:18,910
is a good tip to give is because
I used to be someone who didn't

1075
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,700
do this.
I would not write anything down

1076
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:23,290
and I'd kind of rely on other
people to e-mail me and say,

1077
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:25,500
ohh, you done this thing.
And then I'd kind of just do it

1078
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:28,110
like quickly then or try to and,
or put it to the back of my mind

1079
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,580
and then forget.
Whereas when I write things down

1080
00:43:30,590 --> 00:43:33,130
now I can box things up.
I prioritise them.

1081
00:43:33,140 --> 00:43:34,830
I say why?
Like clearly this has to be done

1082
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,620
this week.
But this thing, honestly, I've

1083
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:38,580
just pushed that back and I've
said this a million times and

1084
00:43:38,590 --> 00:43:40,950
general tips, but I think it's
really powerful in Time 6.

1085
00:43:41,090 --> 00:43:44,030
And what was really, really,
really useful for me of reports

1086
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,290
was I would sit down and I'd
break it down into the subjects.

1087
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,540
And then in the subjects I'd
write down the children's names

1088
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:52,120
that I've got to do.
And for my head, it worked for

1089
00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:54,790
me to literally put a box around
four of them and treat that as

1090
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,740
one job.
So I've got one job here, I've

1091
00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:59,430
got to these four and then Four
Seasons.

1092
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,900
I can just walk through this,
take me 20 minutes, and I'll

1093
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:04,070
finish it because I've tricked
my brain into thinking that's

1094
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,670
the job.
Ohh, Actually, I could probably

1095
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,630
get this next job done.
Another box got four.

1096
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:09,750
And instead of it being this
thing where I've got to write

1097
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,430
150 reports, actually it was
I've gotta write 4 reports.

1098
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,250
My brain could deal with that
and I'd end up writing 20 in one

1099
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:16,700
year.
Yeah.

1100
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:18,710
Whereas beforehand I'd be like,
oh gosh, I can't start that

1101
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,130
massive job because I know about
you.

1102
00:44:20,140 --> 00:44:23,420
I'm someone who I can't start a
job unless I feel like I'm going

1103
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:24,950
to finish it.
As well, Yeah, or at least make

1104
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,950
a significant impact to it.
Yeah, with reports of striking.

1105
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,390
Do you box things up?
Do you write things now?

1106
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,580
How do you deal with the
amazing?

1107
00:44:30,590 --> 00:44:33,570
Like a never ending list?
As a teacher, I have to write

1108
00:44:33,580 --> 00:44:35,840
things.
I see for me, I get a really

1109
00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:37,910
good feeling when I do something
early, right?

1110
00:44:38,070 --> 00:44:40,060
It's everywhere.
So like if I know I'm gonna, if

1111
00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:43,210
I know I'm buying myself time in
the future, I almost see it as

1112
00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:45,260
like, ohh, yeah, that that makes
me feel good.

1113
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:47,940
If I do things like till the
deadline, I'm just like, it's

1114
00:44:47,950 --> 00:44:49,420
just, it just becomes another
annoying job.

1115
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:53,270
So I did my reports a whole term
early and I didn't feel too bad

1116
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,360
because everyone I wrote was
like, really, that's another bit

1117
00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:58,200
of my half term, next half term,
even though I'm literally using

1118
00:44:58,210 --> 00:45:00,540
my half term now to do it.
It felt good for some reason.

1119
00:45:00,550 --> 00:45:03,180
So I think just trying to be
proactive for me and being on

1120
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:04,760
it, but definitely spreading
things out.

1121
00:45:04,770 --> 00:45:07,230
I wish I did that.
My big white marking long like

1122
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:10,310
independent long right marking.
I always leave it to the last

1123
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,930
minute and it's like ohh now
I've got 4 hours of marking to

1124
00:45:12,940 --> 00:45:16,310
do if I just did a book a day.
Funnily enough, I do that for

1125
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,070
marking as.
Well, I know you say every time,

1126
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,710
every time I go to market I
think of you marking like one or

1127
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,200
two a day and just before you go
home and then not having them

1128
00:45:23,210 --> 00:45:24,660
not.
Always, not always, but when

1129
00:45:24,670 --> 00:45:25,970
I'm, when I'm on top of it, I do
that.

1130
00:45:25,980 --> 00:45:27,810
It's good advice.
There was a turning point with

1131
00:45:27,820 --> 00:45:29,260
that advice, and it was our head
of year.

1132
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:31,750
Remember when we worked in the
same year group, our old head of

1133
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,010
year and our old school?
Yeah.

1134
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:36,330
And she gave us a book.
A book that was just A to do

1135
00:45:36,340 --> 00:45:38,960
list ticket boxes.
I'd never written anything down

1136
00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:41,070
before then.
And that that genuinely

1137
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,830
transformed my like
organisation.

1138
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,690
I was the most, I'm not the most
organised person now, but I was

1139
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:48,930
the most unorganised person in
the world before.

1140
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,770
At least now I can write things
down.

1141
00:45:50,860 --> 00:45:53,670
And sometimes I honestly get rid
of the paper and write it down

1142
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,310
again and make a new list
because like a new day.

1143
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,980
I'm like, well, I might do, I
might not, but.

1144
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,570
Everyone's got their version of
it they like.

1145
00:45:58,580 --> 00:46:01,120
For me, it's Microsoft Word.
You know me, every time I do

1146
00:46:01,130 --> 00:46:03,140
anything, I just.
Like this right now.

1147
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:06,910
Other people post it notes.
Yeah, they'll win, aren't they?

1148
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,020
Yeah, or just a bit of scrap.
Paper and other people just hear

1149
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:11,580
a job and they go, I don't know,
and then they live a normal

1150
00:46:11,590 --> 00:46:12,840
life.
That must be and they had like

1151
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:14,160
they keep a diary like normal.
People.

1152
00:46:14,170 --> 00:46:16,040
Yeah, yeah, I've seen my head of
year Lawrence.

1153
00:46:16,050 --> 00:46:17,800
She keeps a diary.
Not not by the way, either of

1154
00:46:17,810 --> 00:46:18,860
the Lawrence.
We have 1/3.

1155
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:20,980
Lauren, third Lawrence, who's we
only know Lawrence.

1156
00:46:21,540 --> 00:46:24,730
Incredibly organised, up-to-date
diary and I'm like.

1157
00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:27,880
What are we doing tomorrow?
My diary.

1158
00:46:27,890 --> 00:46:30,130
Beginning of the year, actually.
We do go.

1159
00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:33,510
Yeah.
I just don't use it out then.

1160
00:46:35,110 --> 00:46:36,700
Seven with the workload.
Brilliant.

1161
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:41,250
Nice one number four big one.
Assume good intentions from

1162
00:46:41,260 --> 00:46:42,710
everyone at this point in the
year.

1163
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,040
Assume good in.
Stressful part of the year,

1164
00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:46,430
right?
Really stressful part of the

1165
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,130
year and it can be really easy
for you to kind of bite at

1166
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:53,950
someone and be like, Oh my Why
has she done that?

1167
00:46:54,020 --> 00:46:57,950
Did she needs that Perry Perry
chicken now on a fork in the

1168
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,930
bloody train next to me.
God's sake.

1169
00:46:59,940 --> 00:47:01,890
What's the fishy staff room?
It's hot.

1170
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:03,950
Yeah.
Get more tired than ever.

1171
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,420
People get aggy.
Don't take it to heart.

1172
00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:08,110
Absolutely.
This is simple as that.

1173
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,640
Basically.
Go straight down.

1174
00:47:11,070 --> 00:47:12,870
Wanna see 10 out of 10, do you
think?

1175
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,770
I think that's so important?
I think because I think it can

1176
00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:16,310
like destroy the ethos of the
school.

1177
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:18,980
What if someone, what if someone
hasn't got good intentions?

1178
00:47:18,990 --> 00:47:20,970
Do you think it's important to
call them out or do you just

1179
00:47:20,980 --> 00:47:23,250
assume at this point for
honestly, hold an election, kick

1180
00:47:23,260 --> 00:47:26,330
him out, hold on, hold on
election, get rid of them.

1181
00:47:26,380 --> 00:47:28,650
No, I don't know.
I don't know.

1182
00:47:28,660 --> 00:47:33,540
I just just have a bit of a bit.
Feel like you couldn't be less

1183
00:47:33,550 --> 00:47:37,080
bothered to be here right now?
Look, you know, I want to be

1184
00:47:37,150 --> 00:47:38,960
honest.
There's a street party going on

1185
00:47:38,970 --> 00:47:41,620
out there.
Everyone's got beer and flags.

1186
00:47:41,790 --> 00:47:43,180
I'm going to level with you
guys.

1187
00:47:43,250 --> 00:47:46,100
We're going for a Curry later
and I know it's all that is

1188
00:47:46,110 --> 00:47:48,200
thinking about.
We mentioned Curry multiple

1189
00:47:48,210 --> 00:47:53,010
times.
OK, cool #5 big one in general,

1190
00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:55,760
but especially now.
And I've got an example of how

1191
00:47:55,770 --> 00:47:58,910
this worked for me.
Be transparent, be open, and be

1192
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,110
honest.
Do not be a martyr.

1193
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,110
There are so many teacher
martyrs out there.

1194
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,220
Yeah, OK, so many.
There was a point.

1195
00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:07,730
I'm going to tell you my point
right now which highlights this.

1196
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:13,870
I genuinely, after week one of
the time 6, felt overwhelmed at

1197
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:19,280
work because I felt like I had
so much to do in what felt like

1198
00:48:19,290 --> 00:48:22,940
so little time.
So the example I've got here and

1199
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:26,300
there was a deadline at the end
of week two, and by that

1200
00:48:26,310 --> 00:48:29,340
deadline we had to have finished
all of our reports.

1201
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:31,420
So that's the weekend before,
but you get a bit of leeway

1202
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:33,300
obviously.
And during that week have

1203
00:48:33,310 --> 00:48:37,260
proofread everyone else's
reports and made edits and stuff

1204
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:39,540
to make sure spending was OK and
it made sense and all that kind

1205
00:48:39,550 --> 00:48:42,060
of stuff.
We had a Twilight staff meeting

1206
00:48:42,550 --> 00:48:45,320
on a Monday, so that's two hours
after school gone where that

1207
00:48:45,330 --> 00:48:46,900
time I could be doing
proofreading.

1208
00:48:47,170 --> 00:48:50,720
And we had assessments that week
which need to be marked and

1209
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:52,920
uploaded.
Also by the end of that week,

1210
00:48:53,150 --> 00:48:56,060
huge amount of data, huge amount
of tests need to be marked by

1211
00:48:56,070 --> 00:48:57,770
me.
Data needs to be uploaded by me

1212
00:48:57,780 --> 00:49:01,460
or my teacher partner had to go
to a Twilight meeting and had to

1213
00:49:01,470 --> 00:49:03,500
proofread hundreds of reports.
Yeah.

1214
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,730
And what I did was instead of
what a lot of people I see do,

1215
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,640
which is just go, ohh, bloody
hell, I've got so much work to

1216
00:49:11,650 --> 00:49:12,780
do.
And then working till 10 every

1217
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:15,790
night to get it done and then
moaning about it and not wanting

1218
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,870
to do it.
And instead of being rather

1219
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,090
just, I'll have a moan about it
and I'll become this martyr.

1220
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,740
If the answer is you just didn't
do it, that's.

1221
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:23,250
Not good.
No, it's not because it has to

1222
00:49:23,260 --> 00:49:25,640
get done, it has to get done.
But what happened was just as

1223
00:49:25,650 --> 00:49:29,540
professionals, we sat down and I
said OK with the proof reading.

1224
00:49:29,630 --> 00:49:31,880
I can see like when the reports
are gonna go out.

1225
00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:34,660
Could we move that a week?
Could we shift that deadline a

1226
00:49:34,670 --> 00:49:35,800
week?
Because like you said, jobs

1227
00:49:35,810 --> 00:49:37,860
assume good intentions.
I don't think anyone put 3

1228
00:49:37,870 --> 00:49:39,820
deadlines in one week on purpose
to annoy us.

1229
00:49:39,870 --> 00:49:42,240
So I'm assuming good intentions.
I'm saying I don't think this is

1230
00:49:42,250 --> 00:49:43,530
on purpose, but that is crazy
for me.

1231
00:49:43,540 --> 00:49:45,120
This week.
Could we move that a week?

1232
00:49:45,130 --> 00:49:47,500
Because then this week I can
focus on assessments, next week

1233
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:49,860
I can focus on proofreading.
Immediate yes.

1234
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:52,780
No one, no one batted an either.
Oh God, yeah, that makes sense.

1235
00:49:52,830 --> 00:49:55,570
My line manager, my head of
year, Ohh, yeah, I'll go, I'll

1236
00:49:55,580 --> 00:49:58,000
go and talk to the head and talk
to the head was like, yeah, God,

1237
00:49:58,010 --> 00:49:59,330
yeah, that's.
Actually, that's what you get

1238
00:49:59,340 --> 00:50:00,630
when you got.
It was fixed.

1239
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,900
Exactly.
It was fixed immediately,

1240
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:03,320
though.
It's a separate conversation.

1241
00:50:03,330 --> 00:50:06,120
If that doesn't work, you know,
if if you're a professional with

1242
00:50:06,130 --> 00:50:09,330
a good explanation of why you're
asking for something and it's

1243
00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:12,770
completely reasonable, like I
think this was most of the time

1244
00:50:12,780 --> 00:50:14,300
there will be something put in
place to fix it.

1245
00:50:14,310 --> 00:50:15,500
Yeah.
Hundred don't have to be a

1246
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:17,230
martyr.
Be open, be honest.

1247
00:50:17,310 --> 00:50:18,720
There are usually ways around it
that we can.

1248
00:50:18,730 --> 00:50:20,180
Be.
And if they say no, that's a

1249
00:50:20,190 --> 00:50:21,830
difference.
Don't be a sign that they're

1250
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,140
toxic.
And actually, definitely don't

1251
00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:25,450
be a martyr.
Yeah.

1252
00:50:25,460 --> 00:50:26,660
Exactly.
You want to rethink where you

1253
00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:28,030
are.
But yeah, that's good.

1254
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,720
That's really good advice.
I could put that there.

1255
00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:30,770
Give it a nine.
That's good.

1256
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:32,820
That's solid.
Someone at home can order these.

1257
00:50:32,830 --> 00:50:34,960
Maybe at the end number six only
two left.

1258
00:50:34,970 --> 00:50:36,340
I didn't vote for number 4, so
good luck.

1259
00:50:36,350 --> 00:50:37,080
Brilliant.
Yeah.

1260
00:50:37,150 --> 00:50:38,810
Do you know we didn't?
OK.

1261
00:50:38,820 --> 00:50:44,420
Anyway, yeah, good one, yes.
Have things to look forward to

1262
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:48,200
in your personal life.
That that for me, transforms my

1263
00:50:48,210 --> 00:50:50,550
mood entirely.
When I knew that we were going

1264
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,220
to centre parks in that half
term, honestly, that time all I

1265
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:56,480
kept thinking about was, oh,
look, three more weeks to centre

1266
00:50:56,490 --> 00:50:58,280
Parks.
Ohh, look, two more weeks centre

1267
00:50:58,290 --> 00:50:59,510
parks.
It's going to be fun, isn't it?

1268
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,370
And I know I've got reports to
do, but Oh my God, I'm gonna go

1269
00:51:01,380 --> 00:51:02,660
to centre Parks.
Isn't that really cool?

1270
00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:05,590
And, you know, it slipped off
the waggon since Rory came, but

1271
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,720
every Tuesday to play football.
And people at work knew it.

1272
00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:11,060
And I realised people at work
knew it because I spoke about

1273
00:51:11,070 --> 00:51:13,100
it, because it was a fun part of
my week.

1274
00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:15,520
I've got football tonight.
I'd say to people go football

1275
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:17,890
tonight and trying that thing to
get me through the day.

1276
00:51:17,980 --> 00:51:19,500
I agree.
Don't don't sacrifice that

1277
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:21,110
because it can be really, really
tempting at the minute.

1278
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,160
But I've got your six
production.

1279
00:51:22,170 --> 00:51:24,570
I've got I've got transition.
I've got end of school

1280
00:51:24,580 --> 00:51:26,230
performance.
I've I've got to do extra work

1281
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:27,330
tonight.
Ohh, no, I'm gonna have to

1282
00:51:27,340 --> 00:51:29,350
cancel that yoga.
I'm going to cancel meeting my

1283
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,770
friend.
Do not do that.

1284
00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:32,210
This is a job.
Sacred bit of.

1285
00:51:32,220 --> 00:51:35,310
Time, go and see your mate,
spend time with your family,

1286
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,090
cordon it off and if something,
if you're doing extra work and

1287
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:42,980
it hits into that, it's sacred.
Don't let it be the person who

1288
00:51:42,990 --> 00:51:44,980
says no.
And then if someone turns around

1289
00:51:44,990 --> 00:51:47,480
and said, well, why didn't you
wait till 9:00 last night?

1290
00:51:47,530 --> 00:51:49,740
Firstly, insane.
And they probably won't.

1291
00:51:49,790 --> 00:51:51,810
So don't worry about it.
And if they do, again, it's a

1292
00:51:51,820 --> 00:51:54,120
separate conversation and, and
you know what you could do?

1293
00:51:54,130 --> 00:51:56,180
You could just say to them,
because I was doing something

1294
00:51:56,190 --> 00:51:58,060
different, because I'm a human
being with a life and this job

1295
00:51:58,070 --> 00:51:58,700
is my.
Life.

1296
00:51:58,750 --> 00:52:01,720
The happiest teachers that I've
ever known, The ones that are

1297
00:52:01,730 --> 00:52:04,040
chilled out, start a new term
feeling fresh and good are

1298
00:52:04,050 --> 00:52:06,780
always the ones that go away.
They're just bugger off over

1299
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:08,890
half term or whatever it is.
Even just the weekend, they're

1300
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:10,650
going to see their mates, they
going to see their family, do

1301
00:52:10,660 --> 00:52:12,100
whatever they want to do.
It doesn't need to be spending

1302
00:52:12,110 --> 00:52:14,640
loads of money, it can just be
doing something you like doing.

1303
00:52:14,650 --> 00:52:17,570
It could be bingeing on Netflix.
Yeah, just whatever, but look

1304
00:52:17,580 --> 00:52:19,920
forward to it.
I I find that if I don't have at

1305
00:52:19,930 --> 00:52:23,450
least one thing a week to just
look forward to, then I do.

1306
00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:24,980
I do.
Stress usually this podcast.

1307
00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:27,330
Yeah, absolutely.
But just being on that train and

1308
00:52:27,340 --> 00:52:30,800
like with no destination and
you're sat next to four people

1309
00:52:30,810 --> 00:52:33,610
with period chickens, that's
what it feels like sometimes in

1310
00:52:33,620 --> 00:52:35,160
teaching, isn't it?
It's like, I've got anything to

1311
00:52:35,170 --> 00:52:37,790
look forward to it.
It really, really quickly just

1312
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,310
rots away at your mind.
Yeah, you have managed to almost

1313
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,660
ruin every single point with
your.

1314
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:43,270
I am trying so.
Hard.

1315
00:52:44,180 --> 00:52:46,040
I'm trying so hard.
OK.

1316
00:52:46,050 --> 00:52:49,990
Last one tip 7, Did you rate
that 10 by?

1317
00:52:51,250 --> 00:52:54,900
I'll give it like a 6.7.
Why did you choose 6.7?

1318
00:52:54,910 --> 00:52:57,620
I just think it's important.
Did something happen in the

1319
00:52:57,630 --> 00:53:00,660
election that 67 OK, I don't
trust you.

1320
00:53:00,670 --> 00:53:04,120
I think it did.
Last tip this.

1321
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:05,560
I love the idea you're thinking
now.

1322
00:53:05,570 --> 00:53:07,380
Like genuine.
Yeah, because I'm really

1323
00:53:07,390 --> 00:53:12,930
thinking the labour gets 67% of
13 #7 big one for me, big one

1324
00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:14,220
that I would love everyone to
do.

1325
00:53:15,010 --> 00:53:19,300
Cordon off time in school to
enjoy with your class.

1326
00:53:19,350 --> 00:53:22,740
Simple, you know, not just
cordon off a bit of time where

1327
00:53:22,750 --> 00:53:25,160
you know, you do just let them
have a bit of edge to play.

1328
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:28,060
You do just put a film on with.
Them my timetables full.

1329
00:53:28,970 --> 00:53:31,080
Tough this is this part of the
timetable.

1330
00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:33,180
Don't do something, don't do
something.

1331
00:53:33,230 --> 00:53:35,800
Instead of doing 5 tasks in your
geography lesson, do 3.

1332
00:53:35,970 --> 00:53:38,740
Genuinely do three and then
spend some time with your kids

1333
00:53:38,750 --> 00:53:41,000
that you have built a bond with
over a year.

1334
00:53:41,370 --> 00:53:44,260
They are going to just enjoy
themselves with you, OK?

1335
00:53:44,270 --> 00:53:46,760
It doesn't have to be the end
goal of they know.

1336
00:53:46,850 --> 00:53:49,760
Ohh, no, I didn't do the bit
where we found out that the

1337
00:53:49,770 --> 00:53:53,090
European bit was a It was a
temperate climate in Poland.

1338
00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:54,890
You know what?
Yeah.

1339
00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:56,410
So what?
Because it ended the school

1340
00:53:56,420 --> 00:53:57,840
year.
You're gonna miss these kids

1341
00:53:57,850 --> 00:53:59,460
when they go out next year.
If you built that bomb with.

1342
00:53:59,470 --> 00:54:01,270
Them they're not gonna remember
that fact anyway.

1343
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,030
Yeah, exactly.
Not remember that, but all they

1344
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,390
will remember is being in
school, having a good time,

1345
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,460
enjoying themselves.
And that is where I'm just like,

1346
00:54:07,540 --> 00:54:11,050
I know I'm the biggest advocate
for school is for learning and

1347
00:54:11,060 --> 00:54:12,590
progress and all this kind of
stuff.

1348
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,770
It's also for enjoying life.
They're humans.

1349
00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:19,850
Give them something to enjoy and
spend some time with them and

1350
00:54:19,860 --> 00:54:21,710
get to know them.
You know them really well by

1351
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:23,280
now.
Just have a bit of fun with.

1352
00:54:23,290 --> 00:54:24,630
Them.
Yeah, simple psychology.

1353
00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:27,190
Millions of kids are.
If kids have a nice time at the

1354
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,480
end of the day, they want to
come into school the next day

1355
00:54:29,490 --> 00:54:31,180
because they had a good day.
You know, it's very.

1356
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:33,310
Easy.
I transitioned day this week, so

1357
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,740
I was gonna talk about that.
Yeah, with the children.

1358
00:54:36,970 --> 00:54:39,440
So I went in.
It was our day off technically,

1359
00:54:39,490 --> 00:54:40,870
but I like to go and meet the
class.

1360
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,440
You went in as well.
And it was with my partner,

1361
00:54:43,450 --> 00:54:45,920
teacher Amy.
And she said I was thinking we

1362
00:54:45,930 --> 00:54:47,950
could split the class in half.
You take half them out so it's a

1363
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,420
bit smaller.
And then after like 10-15

1364
00:54:50,430 --> 00:54:52,400
minutes, just swap and you play
a little game with them.

1365
00:54:52,450 --> 00:54:54,390
And I was chatting to them and
one of them asked me a question

1366
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,030
and they said, are you a fun
teacher?

1367
00:54:57,620 --> 00:55:00,870
Now I, I know, again, I know for
a fact, like, I've got this

1368
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,230
reputation amongst the kids.
It's exciting for Mr. Price.

1369
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:06,290
Mr. Price is a fun teacher.
Mr. Price is.

1370
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:08,390
Everyone knows Mr. Price has
been on TV.

1371
00:55:08,460 --> 00:55:09,970
Mr. Price has some YouTube
videos.

1372
00:55:09,980 --> 00:55:11,680
Isn't that cool?
And he's friends with Alistair

1373
00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:13,580
Campbell.
Yeah, they're all saying that.

1374
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:17,370
But there's this kind of idea
that, oh, that's a cool thing.

1375
00:55:17,380 --> 00:55:19,710
And this child asked me.
They were, they were buzzing.

1376
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:20,770
It was.
So it was really nice.

1377
00:55:20,780 --> 00:55:22,490
They're really happy.
They're really excited to join

1378
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:24,990
us next year.
And she put her hand up beaming

1379
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,510
like, are you fun?
And I was like, ohh, I need to

1380
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,790
get this right.
Yeah, I need to get this right.

1381
00:55:30,340 --> 00:55:32,840
So I said, get out my room right
now.

1382
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,090
No, I said to her.
Ah, great question.

1383
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:38,480
Now I think so.
I said to.

1384
00:55:38,490 --> 00:55:40,620
I think I am.
I think I'm really fun.

1385
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:43,440
But do you know what?
There are two things that my

1386
00:55:43,450 --> 00:55:45,480
class need to do?
Yeah, there are two things my

1387
00:55:45,490 --> 00:55:47,970
class have to do.
And if they don't do the first

1388
00:55:47,980 --> 00:55:49,860
thing, we can't do the second
thing.

1389
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:53,590
And you know what it was I said
to them, everyone in my class

1390
00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:57,490
has to try their hardest
everyday and do their best work

1391
00:55:57,540 --> 00:55:59,580
every single day.
That's the first thing you have

1392
00:55:59,590 --> 00:56:01,130
to do.
But do you know what will happen

1393
00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:03,550
if you do that?
The second thing, which is we'll

1394
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,850
have a really good time and
you're going to have a lot of

1395
00:56:05,860 --> 00:56:08,130
fun in school because we're
going to try our hardest, do our

1396
00:56:08,140 --> 00:56:10,230
best and we're going to enjoy.
Doing it, I like that you set it

1397
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,770
up as like a cumulative thing.
You have to do A to get B&B.

1398
00:56:13,780 --> 00:56:15,720
Is the bit you want.
Yeah, exactly that, exactly

1399
00:56:15,730 --> 00:56:18,690
that, because all of them.
And I said to them at the end,

1400
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,210
does that sound fair?
Does that sound good?

1401
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,800
Buzzing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1402
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:24,770
Yeah, yeah, so good.
You've always been a fun

1403
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:26,870
teacher, right?
Is that something you would have

1404
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,300
said in your second year of
teaching?

1405
00:56:29,650 --> 00:56:32,120
Um.
Being a new class.

1406
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,550
But you know what I think you
think I'm gonna say no, but I

1407
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,980
think I would really, I think I
would have, I think I've always

1408
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:41,760
been, well, very quickly, I feel
like in my career I that, that

1409
00:56:41,770 --> 00:56:43,340
was my way to get through to
children.

1410
00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:45,160
And I knew that.
And I think, I think I've, I've

1411
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:46,960
kind of always embedded that in
my class.

1412
00:56:47,010 --> 00:56:49,740
I think I wouldn't maybe be as
confident with it Now I'm like,

1413
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:51,660
I know this formula works.
I'm going to do this, I'm going

1414
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:54,160
to do that.
But I, I think for me that

1415
00:56:54,170 --> 00:56:55,760
works.
I've got another funny story and

1416
00:56:55,770 --> 00:56:57,840
maybe you can come back to this.
It's not necessarily funny, but

1417
00:56:57,850 --> 00:57:01,300
it's really interesting because
throughout my career, most

1418
00:57:01,310 --> 00:57:03,570
children and I've been in
awkward situations when this

1419
00:57:03,580 --> 00:57:04,720
happens.
I've just been really honest

1420
00:57:04,730 --> 00:57:06,920
with everyone is saying, and
everyone knows these teachers in

1421
00:57:06,930 --> 00:57:10,850
their school where a child might
come up to me and they were in

1422
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,030
the person's class who's next to
me last year or maybe has them

1423
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,610
for maths and I've got them for
English.

1424
00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:17,740
And they'll come up to me and
say, oh, you're my favourite

1425
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:20,690
teacher, I love your lessons,
you're my favourite teacher.

1426
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:23,630
Oh my God, you're so fun.
And I die inside because I know

1427
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,820
being fun in the children's eyes
absolutely doesn't necessarily

1428
00:57:26,830 --> 00:57:27,920
mean I'm a better teacher than
anyone.

1429
00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:30,230
No, no, it means that the
children, they just, they just

1430
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,320
have this bond with me where
they think I'm fine and they

1431
00:57:32,330 --> 00:57:34,590
love my lesson.
I'm never gonna apologise for

1432
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,360
that.
But I I get awkward because I

1433
00:57:36,370 --> 00:57:38,530
think I don't want the person
next to me, the fellow

1434
00:57:38,540 --> 00:57:40,990
professional, to think that
remotely reflects on their

1435
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,800
teacher.
Yeah, yeah.

1436
00:57:41,810 --> 00:57:45,430
And I had a really nice moment,
even though it was detrimental

1437
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,910
to me, had a really nice moment
a week or two ago where a child

1438
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,740
in my class was talking to me
and their set teacher was in the

1439
00:57:52,750 --> 00:57:55,720
room as well.
And they said to me, I can't

1440
00:57:55,730 --> 00:57:57,790
remember how we got into it, but
this child said to me, well, you

1441
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,530
know, you're a fun teacher,
aren't you?

1442
00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:02,170
It's quite mature boy, you're,
you're a fun teacher, aren't

1443
00:58:02,180 --> 00:58:04,930
you?
And it was almost said like,

1444
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,560
yeah, you're a fun, like it
might be quite a bad thing.

1445
00:58:07,570 --> 00:58:10,300
You're a fun teacher.
And then he, he must have

1446
00:58:10,310 --> 00:58:12,720
realised quickly, oh, no, I'm
not necessarily saying it's a

1447
00:58:12,730 --> 00:58:14,750
bad thing, but you are.
You're a fun teacher.

1448
00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:17,440
And then he looked at the set
teacher and he said, whereas

1449
00:58:17,450 --> 00:58:19,530
you're more strict.
And in my my heart sank and I

1450
00:58:19,540 --> 00:58:21,650
was like, oh God, this has
happened a million times before.

1451
00:58:21,660 --> 00:58:23,300
Yeah, yeah, you're more strict.
It's awful.

1452
00:58:23,350 --> 00:58:24,680
But he then said you're more
strict.

1453
00:58:24,690 --> 00:58:27,920
So it means I get to learn more
with you to the set teacher.

1454
00:58:27,930 --> 00:58:28,540
Wow.
Yeah.

1455
00:58:28,550 --> 00:58:31,710
And, and, and honestly,
honestly, I'm being really

1456
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,050
honest because I think if my
first or second year that would

1457
00:58:34,060 --> 00:58:36,280
have killed me, that would have
absolutely killed me, I'd be

1458
00:58:36,290 --> 00:58:38,070
like, ohh, God, I'm I'm doing
the wrong thing.

1459
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,010
I wanted him to say it louder.
I was like, yeah, yes.

1460
00:58:42,020 --> 00:58:44,460
Because I know for a fact strict
teachers out there, yeah, I

1461
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:46,570
probably listening to us going,
yeah, build a relationship, have

1462
00:58:46,580 --> 00:58:48,070
fun with your class.
And like, I can't do that.

1463
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,610
This is how I teach.
I'm strict.

1464
00:58:49,660 --> 00:58:51,120
Yeah.
Some of my favourite teachers at

1465
00:58:51,130 --> 00:58:53,200
school were strict.
It doesn't mean you're a bad

1466
00:58:53,210 --> 00:58:55,940
teacher if you're strict.
And I loved, I actually loved

1467
00:58:55,950 --> 00:58:58,070
that he said that because every
child is different.

1468
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,330
There are going to be some
children who prefer my style of

1469
00:59:00,340 --> 00:59:01,610
teaching.
Yeah, there are gonna be some

1470
00:59:01,620 --> 00:59:03,930
children who?
Prefer just want to focus.

1471
00:59:03,940 --> 00:59:05,810
Exactly that and they know they
can get through.

1472
00:59:05,850 --> 00:59:08,330
Maybe sometimes that child feels
like get through more work

1473
00:59:08,340 --> 00:59:10,200
because they're not as
distracted maybe by me talking

1474
00:59:10,210 --> 00:59:12,590
about something for 10 minutes.
And I just wanted to make that

1475
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,510
point to everyone listening.
You know, I talk about having

1476
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,710
fun with your class to to you
that might be having some quiet

1477
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:18,980
time in the class, but they read
their books.

1478
00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:21,690
I don't know what it is but but
I don't want anyone to think

1479
00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:24,240
that.
If you're not traditionally fun

1480
00:59:24,250 --> 00:59:27,460
teacher who traditionally the
kids absolutely adore and love,

1481
00:59:27,530 --> 00:59:29,250
it absolutely doesn't mean
you're a bad teacher.

1482
00:59:29,260 --> 00:59:30,990
Doesn't mean a bad teacher and
it doesn't mean the kids don't

1483
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,410
like you as much.
Complete example proves exactly

1484
00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:35,000
you can like someone for a
different reason.

1485
00:59:35,330 --> 00:59:38,760
Like liking someone is not tied
exclusively to how fun they.

1486
00:59:38,770 --> 00:59:43,260
Are and and our job genuinely is
not to be liked.

1487
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:46,220
I think there's benefits to it
and I think my aim is to be

1488
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:48,000
liked for many reasons talked
about.

1489
00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:49,940
It's a tool.
Being fun is at all.

1490
00:59:50,090 --> 00:59:52,160
It's funny because I think your
behaviour management has been

1491
00:59:52,170 --> 00:59:54,250
quite consistent.
I feel like journey has been

1492
00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:55,720
very different.
Your behaviour management has

1493
00:59:55,730 --> 00:59:57,650
been, you know, for anyone not
watching, it's just like a very

1494
00:59:57,660 --> 01:00:00,710
slow, slow linear line upwards.
You started quite strong.

1495
01:00:00,780 --> 01:00:02,590
My behaviour management been a
very different journey.

1496
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,310
I started right down there with
my top goal was I need these

1497
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,590
kids to like me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1498
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,890
And other things went out the
window to start and I've come up

1499
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:11,920
the other end now.
I'd say I'm more strict than I

1500
01:00:11,930 --> 01:00:14,230
ever have been.
But it's funny because I gave a

1501
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,380
very, it shows how, you know,
experience has changed.

1502
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:20,790
But I gave a very similar speech
to, to my new class as well.

1503
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,190
They didn't say are you fun?
But we were going over the rules

1504
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,430
and expectations of year.
And all this and I said, look

1505
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,030
guys, there are two versions of
me.

1506
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,890
This is what I said to them.
There are two versions of me and

1507
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:33,600
I have been both of them with
classes in this school in year

1508
01:00:33,610 --> 01:00:37,430
six in the last couple of years.
Said version one is where I am

1509
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,150
extremely strict and, and I will
not have fun with you because

1510
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,370
the first priority is that I do
my job.

1511
01:00:44,380 --> 01:00:47,000
And remember guys, I'm here to
do a job, which is to make sure

1512
01:00:47,010 --> 01:00:50,150
you guys get an education.
I said, so I have had classes

1513
01:00:50,260 --> 01:00:54,390
where if I if I'm a little bit
fun, they will take advantage of

1514
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,760
me and therefore other children
in the class don't learn.

1515
01:00:57,770 --> 01:01:00,720
So I can't do it.
And I've had classes and I said

1516
01:01:00,730 --> 01:01:03,780
like my class this year because
I had a lovely bunch, I said,

1517
01:01:03,790 --> 01:01:07,500
who are so respectful that I can
have fun with them and I can be

1518
01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:11,300
myself all the time because I
know that when we need to move

1519
01:01:11,310 --> 01:01:13,510
on and move on as that.
And I said, and so it's

1520
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,940
completely in your hands now,
which version of me you want.

1521
01:01:18,050 --> 01:01:21,060
I said, but I will, I will act
accordingly to what you do.

1522
01:01:21,070 --> 01:01:22,680
So your actions will impact my
teaching.

1523
01:01:22,750 --> 01:01:24,900
And I left it at that.
And they were really intently

1524
01:01:24,910 --> 01:01:27,040
listening at this point.
I thought you can immediately

1525
01:01:27,050 --> 01:01:28,700
tell with classes.
And I was like, I think they're

1526
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:31,270
going to be a good class because
I just even the way they were

1527
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,080
soaking that in, I was like,
yeah, this is this is good.

1528
01:01:33,090 --> 01:01:34,860
It's a good start.
I would have said that.

1529
01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:36,730
I wouldn't have said that five
years ago.

1530
01:01:36,770 --> 01:01:39,580
Genuinely my behave manager.
Would have been the Joker the.

1531
01:01:39,590 --> 01:01:40,410
Funny guy?
Exactly.

1532
01:01:40,420 --> 01:01:43,170
Yeah, I think, I think that's
what people who don't work high

1533
01:01:43,180 --> 01:01:48,120
school, I think sometimes they
underestimate how much children

1534
01:01:48,130 --> 01:01:49,760
genuinely do get stuff like
that.

1535
01:01:49,850 --> 01:01:51,200
It's almost quite nuanced, isn't
it?

1536
01:01:51,210 --> 01:01:52,780
Like you might think, well,
they're just children just

1537
01:01:52,790 --> 01:01:55,260
acting a certain way.
You can see the cogs turning.

1538
01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:57,790
Even my year four children,
they're eight and nine years

1539
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,270
old.
Well, actually seven and eight

1540
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,720
now they're in year 3 coming up
to me.

1541
01:02:00,790 --> 01:02:03,110
And I knew I could say that to
them because that's really

1542
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,740
simple.
And do you know what teachers

1543
01:02:04,750 --> 01:02:07,220
are really good at is getting
across things very simply to

1544
01:02:07,230 --> 01:02:09,640
children.
And it was, it was honestly, in

1545
01:02:09,650 --> 01:02:11,640
terms of behaviour management,
it's diluted down to those two

1546
01:02:11,650 --> 01:02:13,960
things, right?
The number one thing that all

1547
01:02:13,970 --> 01:02:17,110
teachers is that the children
are learning, trying hard, doing

1548
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,900
their best, following the rules,
It's as simple as that.

1549
01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:21,340
And, and nothing could come
before that.

1550
01:02:21,350 --> 01:02:23,450
And what you do after that, I
think that's down to your

1551
01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:25,100
professional judgement and
that's your style.

1552
01:02:25,150 --> 01:02:27,380
And if everyone was the same, it
would be really boring, wouldn't

1553
01:02:27,390 --> 01:02:28,980
it?
So I don't want to change anyone

1554
01:02:28,990 --> 01:02:32,780
thinks, but we all agree, don't
mean that the number one goal is

1555
01:02:32,790 --> 01:02:34,620
children are making progress.
And if they're not, as a

1556
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:35,810
teacher, you've got to be
malleable.

1557
01:02:35,820 --> 01:02:38,160
And I think what you've said
there is, is bang on.

1558
01:02:38,170 --> 01:02:40,680
If you want to be the fun guy,
the fun teacher.

1559
01:02:40,750 --> 01:02:44,360
And as a male teacher it I feel
like I can slot into that

1560
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,450
because the kids automatically
think that that ohh boy teacher.

1561
01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:48,940
Wow.
Yeah, don't get many of them.

1562
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Easier to step into that role.
Yeah, you, but you've got a

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responsibility and to make sure
those kids are making really

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01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,880
good progress and the day that
wasn't happening is the day I

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absolutely should be pulled up
and anything like that.

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So I think very reflective.
Sounds good.

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01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,290
No, absolutely.
So my 7 tips, we managed to get

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about 5 minutes of decent chat
at the end without you saying

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anything about it.
We did.

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01:03:10,410 --> 01:03:12,120
You got the black shirts on.
Back to mourning.

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01:03:12,130 --> 01:03:14,490
The Conservative.
Party.

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01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:19,230
Ohh, the Tory party.
And that's.

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01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:24,890
The No, it's not.
They have just lost out 200

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01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:26,590
seats and that's the.
End.

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01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,450
And no, it's not because they
got demolished.

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01:03:30,460 --> 01:03:38,040
Angelien Teagan is not an MP.
Ohh I find it so funny ohh.

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01:03:38,050 --> 01:03:38,850
Brilliant.
Anyway.

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01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,200
Alright, cool.
We call that.

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01:03:40,210 --> 01:03:41,090
Yeah.
See you next week, guys.

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01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:43,930
You're gonna sing See you next
week.

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01:03:43,940 --> 01:03:46,220
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