Ep 68: Should Private School Fees Include VAT?

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And everyone, back to another
episode of Teach Sleep.

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Repeat.
My name is Dylan.

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And my name is Hayden.
Hayden.

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Hayden, I'm.
Very well.

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That was quick.
Thank you.

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How are you?
Good.

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Thank you.
Not bad.

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Let's crack.
On I was imagining, you know,

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day making a montage, right and
I couldn't do it cause it's much

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worse making a montage of your
intro because I reckon I could

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overlay like the last 60
episodes and like frame for

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frame, sound for sound.
That's exactly the same.

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What do you?
Think one of the benefits of my

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this personality trait of mine
which the repetition needs to be

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exactly the same.
When you go to order a Indian,

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you could order for me an Indian
Curry.

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Probably you could say the
introduction to this.

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Podcast I'll have a chicken
tikka Madras this is you go on

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you probably have 20 how you
feel yeah OK toll order you from

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start again if you're.
Really drink and.

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Anything, everything right you
go in there, you'd say all could

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have a kind of have a either a
singer or a cobra, depending on

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what they do.
I'll be more slimmed yet,

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whatever's on tap.
Whatever.

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That's what you do when you come
over and jump on you.

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But ohh.
And you'd be thinking, oh, I

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want more than everyone else.
Yes.

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So let's just make sure I get
the maximum here.

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Yeah.
Can we have at least two Yep,

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Yep, Yep, and then come around
you?

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The good thing about two each,
by the way, is when people go,

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I'm not sure not should just get
them in case because then I know

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I can get then you eat.
Three or four.

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Yeah.
And then it comes to the meal

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you like.
Ohh.

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Look at the menu as if you don't
know.

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Sorry.
What part of the.

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I don't remember asking you to
impersonate me.

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OK, sorry.
I won't do that.

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I will actually, I'm just
looking the menu because I

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already know what I want, but
also come back to me.

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Come back to me, but I know
everyone knows what you want,

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Dylan.
And then you get a chicken

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taking address.
Yep, with pilau rice.

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Yep.
And you would share it on your

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body If someone else was
getting.

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I would, But you'd absolutely
have your own Peshwari naan.

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Yeah.
So there you go.

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There's your order.
Every time.

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They were listening to this.
Episode there was certain things

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on an Indian takeaway because
you know, it's that classic

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Smithy thing where he's like,
no, no, I've ordered it.

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Yeah, it's mine.
There is certain things that are

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untouchables.
Like when some honestly, when

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someone turns to me and says do
you wanna share that on a bit of

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me dies inside because I don't
want any single part of my Nan

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bread to be with anyone else
other than me because no,

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because I've got in my head I
know I'm going to eat it as I go

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right with my dish and I'm also
going to as I go.

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There's a portion of that bread
set aside for dipping.

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Because you get your little, you
get a little dish, don't you?

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If you Curry and you put your
wacky chicken on your plate and

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there's this beautiful oily
Curry sauce full of goodness and

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tastiness.
That doesn't work as a sentence.

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Is it beautiful?
Oily.

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The rest of that is the already
void.

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No, Anyone who's on the team
Curry knows that.

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That beautiful.
What you do are you a sharer or

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are you a have my own meal I.
Don't, but I did do a share once

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because I really, I really
wanted to try something else,

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but I panicked that it's gonna
be rubbish.

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Yeah, I know get chicken tikka
Madras.

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It's gonna be a 7 1/2 out of 10
or an 8 out of 10 every week,

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every week.
Like I go every week every time.

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But I did get a a Lambo owner
and that was bloody lovely as

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well.
So yeah, I'm, I'm sure people

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have really wanted that
information for about two.

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To three minutes in, we are
going to tell you a story about

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school that's hopefully gonna
make.

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You Ohh the teacher podcast.
Yeah, yeah.

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So I hadn't the one of the
teacher nightmares happened to

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me this week.
I feel like this is a genuine

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fear of most people.
I sat on a chair in front of the

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whole class and the legs gave
way and it collapsed and I fell

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backwards and my legs rolled
over my head and they all

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laughed so much and I laughed as
well.

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But I was thinking, Oh my God, I
can't believe this.

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Was a Childs yeah.
Yeah, yeah, right.

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Charles Chair, we were watching
a video, so I went to kind of go

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away from my teacher desk is
right next to my screen.

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So rather than standing there
looking at, I kind of went

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toward more towards the back
middle of the room and sat on a

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spare.
Chair and it just collapsed.

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And they all turned round and
were like, and my legs are just

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in the air.
And I held it for a minute.

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I thought he got a relish in
these moments.

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If you look too embarrassed,
it's.

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It's almost like it will linger
longer.

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Yeah.
So I owned the moment, even

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though I was thinking for God's.
Sake why is this happened?

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And I was like, OK, have a quick
look, then look at the position.

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I mean, guys, before I get up,
my legs are just in the air.

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The leg is completely.
Your legs in the air.

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In the air.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So sorry again.
Very, very embarrassing, but

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kind of funny.
So you, at least it wasn't in

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the assembly like we had someone
last year.

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Were you in the assembly?
We, yeah, we had a guest speaker

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in.
We had a guest speaker in going

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to talk to the kids.
It was, it wasn't even like

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someone in school doing it.
We had someone outside come in

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who was like a Team GB boxer.
I'd come in one stop, Sat by

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year six, the worst year group
to sit next to when you do

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anything like that.
And honestly sat down in the

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chair, completely gave way.
The whole assembly stopped.

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Every like 400 people just turn.
Ohh that's embarrassing, I

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didn't see it.
I do remember being told about

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that and that's how that's pure
embarrassment.

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Sorry, staff member, entire
school.

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What?
What's this going on about

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Police talk?
Well, this one was quite sweet.

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OK, we had in year six, we have
the police, the police, the

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police, someone comes in.
Just an enigma.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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The police is in.
Who's in the police?

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The police are in, they come in
to do a little talk with the

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year sixes and it's mostly about
transition because obviously

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police are a bit more involved
in secondary schools.

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There's normally a community
officer, at least in our area.

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I don't if that's normal, but a
community officer kind of

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assigned to each school and he
came in as our local feeder

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secondary schools like this.
I'm the guy you're going to see

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around.
Basically this is what it's all

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about.
You might be feeling nervous

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about secondary school and.
You should be the police are

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here.
He walked around with this.

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Hello.
Hello.

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Hello.
Yeah, just secondary school.

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So funny.
Anyway, he just did this, did

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this talk and and during he had
lots of questions with the kids

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and he was basically just trying
to make me feel a little bit

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less anxious about going to
secondary school.

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And it was weird.
It was kind of like nothing to

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do with being the police for for
most of this, but whatever.

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And he asked the kids at one
point he was like, what were you

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miss from secondary school?
One of the kids put that from

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secondary school, from primary.
School got that wrong, didn't

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you?
Said I'm one of the kids put

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their hand up when he asked her
and her response was I'm going

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to miss Mr Stevens.
And it was a really sweet

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moment.
And she wasn't even taking the

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mic.
No.

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And how much did you pay her for
that?

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Was 20 lbs.
Yeah.

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You like never mentioned the
chair.

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Yeah, I I stole the the
policeman's cluster of what's it

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called?
Pepper spray.

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Like urgent payment then.
Yeah, Yeah.

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Seems like a fair, fair trade.
Yeah, fair trade.

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Nice.
Cool.

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So anything, anything else?
Self indulgence.

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Tell me about this week.
Well, I suppose you can move on

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to your boring week that's all
about me.

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Honestly, I look back at the
week we did a bit at the start,

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which again, we assume people
wanna hear.

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Don't know if you do well, but
anyway.

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And I thought, oh, what happened
this week?

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And I had one of them really
normal boring weeks.

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Great.
We're moving on then, so.

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The only thing I did have was it
was assessment week.

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And again, we think I remember
saying this last year, you're in

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year 6.
Assessment view is very

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different.
You kind of do the Sats external

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gets sent off and you just kind
of go on your own tangent.

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Then you're doing shows and
stuff.

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Yeah, 345 is like, it's just,
it's just loving which we carry

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on maths and English obviously
all the way through always and

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there's no discussion there.
But we have random like

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assessment week in times 6 and
always seems quite early.

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Always, always find it really
weird when my kids are sitting a

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maths test and we haven't done
angles yet, right, Because there

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is still a term left of the
school year.

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So that's when you think about
it, that's one sixth of their

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learning we actually haven't
done before they sit the

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assessment.
So when it comes to the

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assessment, had kids putting
their hand up saying sorry, what

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does it mean?
What's the name of this shape?

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Because we haven't learned about
trapeziums yet.

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Yeah, we haven't done that.
We haven't done that block yet.

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So I found that bizarre.
That's just like a side note of

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when we test kits and stuff we
haven't done yet.

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And then that is what they've
got at the end of year four

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because that's their assessment
grade.

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It's very odd.
Anyway, what I found hilarious

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was it it's always fun.
The kids did really well on

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their test.
I was really impressed.

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I was really, really happy with
them because they tried so hard.

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But you have to remember
sometimes they are 8, you know,

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they they are 8 years old.
So there's the odd thing.

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It's just absolutely hilarious.
And I'd one question, I put this

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on my Instagram and I guess it's
not even your Instagram, my

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Instagram, because I'm
everything you pop up.

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Really.
And then I did a story.

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You did.
We'll come on to that.

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But yeah, we did a test and I
guess it was funny to start with

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and I was just like, that's
funny when they just put a

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nonsense, especially in
comprehension.

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So the the question was how far
in advance should you book a

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party to to avoid
disappointment?

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This Yeah.
So this, this this was off a

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text, which is an information
text about booking a pool party

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for your children.
So it was a non fiction text.

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And in in the text it said you
should book at least a month in

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advance to make sure you get
space.

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So the whole point was the the
kind of language of booking in

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advance is something a lot of my
year fours will have absolutely

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no idea what.
That means.

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It's quite complex.
It is quite complex, but but the

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saving grace was in the text.
It used the exact same language,

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right?
So, you know, even if maybe you

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were unsure is a comprehension
skill is supposed to be like,

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well, as adults, we're reading
stuff and there's always we

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don't know, but we kind of just
take.

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Context If they hadn't used the
book in advance and it would

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have been a little bit.
It would have been testing vocab

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as well as they're like
influence and or sorry

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retrieval.
The question that they could

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just find that and I was like,
fair enough, that's a skill and

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a bunch of them got it, but
loads of them really randomly

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putting them out of money.
Hmm.

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And at first it was like, how
far in advance should you book 8

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lbs per child?
And I was like, ohh, there's

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some and then someone else put 8
lbs per child and then someone

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else put £50 deposit and I was
like, what is going on?

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Like I really, cause I really
interest me if that kind of

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stuff.
I try and Wrack my brains.

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I love misconceptions as a
teacher I and that's why I like

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Maths I.
Think Yeah, you wanna know what

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happened?
Yeah, yeah.

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You wanna know the exact thought
process that went through their

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brain to in order to address it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I don't know what's your gut
instinct there of how far in

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advance should you book to avoid
disappointment?

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Why are they taking these
numerical funny figures out of

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the?
Texture.

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Well, first question, did they
make those numbers up

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completely?
Or no way from the text.

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So indifferent in different
parts of the text.

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Those were the only things that
are written as digits though.

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Yeah.
So I'm thinking it's something

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to do with that now as well.
Are they thinking it needs to be

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an amount because it says how
much or how many maybe and they

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kind of just scanning for an
amount and saying, well, I don't

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know what an.
Amount question was how far in

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advance?
Was yeah, I know, but just the

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how maybe maybe I've only
exposed them to how questions.

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Yeah, in the context of how
many?

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Yeah.
And my only thought was I

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haven't seen the text, so you
can just that sounds wrong.

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But my thought was maybe
somewhere in the text it said

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how much a month costs.
Uh, no, it was.

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It was basically it was 8 lbs
per child for bookings, right?

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And £50 deposit to get.
Yeah, so those facts were right.

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Yeah, yeah, there's, there's
those.

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They didn't make those monies.
That's why basically when when I

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look at tests as a teacher, when
children are put an answer down,

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there's almost 3 categories for
answers in a test right now.

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Category one, they get it right
and I'm like amazing.

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Category three is they just get
it completely wrong or it's

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blank and I'm just like, they
had no idea.

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But there is a category too,
where actually as a teacher, I,

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I think I'm quite proud of the
effort.

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And it's like you, there's all I
say to them all the time.

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They're gonna be questions and
assess.

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You don't know.
But what I'd love to see guys,

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you're putting a sensible
answer.

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Yeah.
So I in my head that counted to

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me as a sensible answer at least
because I could see a thought

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process in their head of them
saying, well, I don't know.

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It says how we've done how many?
Maybe it's a number?

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It mentions a booking.
Exactly.

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And it's to do with something
like that.

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So they've taken the money, put
it in and I was thinking, OK,

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it's the same favourite to
avoid.

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Asked the question who?
Right.

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Yeah, they get it completely
wrong, but they put the name of

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a person from the text at least.
Yeah.

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And and that's when I'm like,
that's good, that's good, guys,

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That's good.
Understanding good.

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Test technique, I, I reckon it's
probably quite simple in terms

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of they just didn't remotely
understand the phrase.

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How can advance, right?
And they've scanned the

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question, like you said, the
category two, they've really

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tried to look for something else
in the question.

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They know, they've seen the
phrase that at the end something

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something the booking and
they're like, ohh, OK, I know

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the booking costs money.
Have not been asked that before

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I put how much the booking.
Costs and funnily enough, two

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questions later, it was how much
does it cost per child?

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Alright, so it was before that.
That's my point.

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So you're absolutely right.
They probably thought maybe it's

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that they got there and they're
not old enough to think or they

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wouldn't have the same.
Exactly that.

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Yeah.
So that was really interesting

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to me.
And just in general, I find

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marking assessments, I don't
know about you, but any other

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teachers out there as well?
I put it off and I put it off

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and put it off.
Especially English

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comprehension, but with maths I
do it immediately and I quite

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like it because I can just it's
number, number, number, number.

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There's not really much scope
for that.

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Where is he saying with reading
comp it's this answer.

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Ohh.
By the way, here are five other

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options that are OK.
And it takes a lot of mental

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load, I think.
Yeah, I think maybe because I

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just really like maths as well.
I don't know.

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Yeah, but I always do the same.
I'm a massive great time.

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Immediately start getting them
done because I want to see

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English.
I'm like.

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Last time I'm gonna talk about
before we move on is I

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introduced hate into something
this week and I didn't realise I

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was introducing him to it and I
knew it was the first time

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Hayden has ever had it was going
to a butchers.

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So the reason why I knew it was
Hayden's first time coming to

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the butchers was because we got
to the we got to the window

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where they put the meat on the
front and they have the prices

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on there and it goes that much
for a sausage.

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And I was like, hey, it's per
kilogramme had no concept and

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the fact that they just weighed.
Them bought them.

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I was like, how much was it
again?

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You, Hayden, I've already told
you three times it's on weight.

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There wasn't a prize.
So ohh what this burger cost?

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Oh my God man, a £50 deposit for
lamb Shank.

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Barbecue, better barbecue.
And we got home and and then it

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was torrential.
Torrential.

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Rain.
Ohh, yeah, that's good.

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But you, you were saying about
how just is it this day and age,

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maybe other people can help us,
but you weren't expecting such

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lovely service from the
butchers.

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I don't know if you guys
experiencing this, maybe again

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it could be our area.
Yeah, or the fact we, the fact

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you've never been in the
butchers, because that's my.

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Experience of Butcher But my
experience of buying things in

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general over a counter is you're
generally served by someone who

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does not have a stake in the
business and they're probably

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quite young.
Quite often they're not really

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interested.
You just don't get much back

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these days is what I'm saying.
And I'm used to that.

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I don't even care.
Why would you?

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Yeah, they're getting paid
minimum wage most of the times,

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I get it.
Whereas in the butchers they

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were just extremely nice.
There's like 4-4 blokes.

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I.
Think they're all they're all

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butchers though.
And they were just.

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Hi there.
How you doing today?

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How good weekend.
I'm just like, ohh, yeah.

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Hello.
That's really.

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You seem genuine.
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, and it's because they all
have a stake in, it's their

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butchers, you know, they they
want customers to come back.

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Yeah, more than I guess I would
when I worked at Tesco.

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Yeah, why would you care?
You're basically here drawing a

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comparison between huge, massive
corporations that have

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absolutely exploited capitalism
to their own end to a nice small

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family.
Ohh.

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That's why we should support
small family run businesses.

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Yeah, the problem is they
usually cost more because they

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have.
To yeah, it was quite expensive.

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Tonight, buddy, nice was nice.
It was much better.

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OK, cool.
Should crack on.

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We got two main things we want
to talk about today.

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The title of the episode.
I kind of my section.

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I suppose we'll come onto that
towards the end.

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But before then, Hayden really
wants to chat about something in

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the news, right?
Yeah, let's do a Jingle, right,

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Dylan?
You got your script ready this

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time.
I got my script ready.

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Good.
Let's talk private school.

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Third, third attempt.
Let's talk private schools.

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Telling so in the news, probably
seen the Labour government, not

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government yet.
Labour when they maybe get into

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government.
I'm thinking about adding VAT to

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private school tuition fees,
Right?

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And there's a lot of backlash
about it in the news now.

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I put on Instagram story.
I was an Instagram, guys.

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It's not just Dylan's account.
Yeah, that was the second story

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in a year and a half, and it was
really, really provocative.

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Really provocative, basically
saying that how I feel about

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this, which is absolutely agree.
We should be gonna be 18.

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Quite afraid.
Neutral, right?

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Yeah.
And then halfway through.

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Ohh.
Think of the Barbie.

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I started taking the Mick in.
I will tell you because the

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story is gone.
I actually said ohh no we might

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have to go to ohh yucky state
schools for the private schools

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anyway.
So you think that it's a good

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policy?
I I think it's a good policy.

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We'll get into the nitty gritty
of why I think that is not.

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I haven't just listened to one
source and be like, yeah, agree.

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I've really, really thought
about this and I know I haven't

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discussed this with you on this
because I want your kind of raw

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opinions.
Yeah, I'm going to hit you with

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a few facts first, just stats
just kind of ground this

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conversation and I'm going to
see what you.

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Think so These these are just
these are just stats, right?

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These aren't like this is from a
source.

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It's just how it is.
Yeah, they're just kind of just

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random facts that are going to
be useful for understanding the

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context of private school when
we get to.

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And I think a lot of people
actually don't have this.

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It's very ideological, this
battle.

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So it'll be good for me and for
probably people listening just

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to think, OK, well, what are the
solid?

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Facts then exactly that right.
So I'm gonna start with an

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average, alright.
And and I really have and and I

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say average because the scope of
private tuition fees is massive.

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Yeah, you think of Eaton and
have massive tuition fees

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versus, I don't know, whatever
your lowest.

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Well, Rishi's listening, so I
hope you like.

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Ohh, I paid a lot more than
that.

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Don't undersell my.
Family.

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Yeah, same as you.
Guys, I went without Sky TV for

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that.
Yeah, exactly.

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So here are some averages.
All right, so across the UK the

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average tuition fee for the year
for a parent was £15,000.

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OK.
So about 5K.

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Big time.
Something like that, yeah,

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roughly, yeah.
And any of that, like I said,

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there are other, yeah, there are
other amounts, but £15,000.

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Now, the state spend
approximately £8000 per kit on a

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school.
So you can compare those numbers

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because really what a parent is
paying is what the school is

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spending on the kids.
You're literally paying for it.

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So it's nearly double.
So yeah, private schools

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spending nearly double on the on
the child because of what?

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The parent, yeah.
Compared to state schools, yes.

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That's important fact.
Yeah, yeah.

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That's that my my initial
instinct there is.

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I've never even thought about
the fact that we have spending

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per kid.
I know it sounds crazy.

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I've never thought about an
amount of money for our child.

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That's really weird.
Thing about school budget is

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based on how many.
Kids.

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Yeah, of course it is.
It makes complete sense, That

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very length.
Seeing it like written out is

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quite interesting.
I see.

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Yeah.
So another fact not really

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related to that but still
important is that since 2010, in

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2010, about 14 years ago, we
have 14 years.

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So since 2010, the gap between
private school spending per

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child, which we were just
discussing, sure.

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And state school spending per
child has actually doubled.

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So just the gap now.
So that's what about an 8K gap

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right now?
Yeah, So it was, I've got here.

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It was 3500.
The gap to 8000.

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00:17:39,450 --> 00:17:41,530
Wow.
So that gap between what private

457
00:17:41,540 --> 00:17:43,300
schools have and what state
schools have, that gap is?

458
00:17:43,310 --> 00:17:45,960
Massively gap, yeah, exactly.
So prices have always spent more

459
00:17:45,970 --> 00:17:49,760
per child and you'd expect that
I suppose, when you yeah, you

460
00:17:49,770 --> 00:17:51,870
would realistically.
But for it to double in that.

461
00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:53,940
That's right, the gap, the gap
has got much bigger.

462
00:17:53,950 --> 00:17:56,520
Well, like what's what's driven
out do you think?

463
00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,700
Is that down?
Do you have any stats on like

464
00:17:58,790 --> 00:18:01,080
the what's private schools?
Are charging.

465
00:18:01,090 --> 00:18:03,550
Well, I, yeah, I don't know why
I can't tell you like why this

466
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,900
happened, but I can tell you
that there's been a 20%

467
00:18:05,910 --> 00:18:07,830
increase, right?
Since 2010 again, yeah.

468
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,580
There's been a 20% increase in
real terms to the private school

469
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:13,720
fees, right.
So that includes inflation.

470
00:18:13,730 --> 00:18:15,280
So actually it's been more than
just 20.

471
00:18:15,290 --> 00:18:18,700
If you look at the 20% figure,
10/20/10 figures is more than

472
00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:20,840
20%.
We're including inflation.

473
00:18:21,050 --> 00:18:23,000
It's gone up with inflation,
lost 20% more.

474
00:18:23,010 --> 00:18:26,580
Wow, private schools cost a lot
more now than they do.

475
00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:28,690
Yeah.
So when you when they do, yeah.

476
00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:30,460
So Eva, there's one of two
things happening there.

477
00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:33,090
Private schools right now,
right, which is Eva, they're

478
00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:37,220
spending way more on a kid and
and that that kid's education is

479
00:18:37,490 --> 00:18:40,580
getting a lot more provision
than it than 90 plus percent of

480
00:18:40,590 --> 00:18:43,340
the population or private
schools are taking a lot more

481
00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:44,660
profit than they used to.
Yeah.

482
00:18:44,670 --> 00:18:47,510
And I don't I don't want to
pretend to be probably be

483
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,680
different per school, right.
Yeah, Yeah, almost definitely,

484
00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:51,490
Yeah.
But that's that's just one more

485
00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:52,580
fact I was going to mention.
Data.

486
00:18:52,590 --> 00:18:54,860
But it's so related that I just
want it to be in your mind when

487
00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:58,600
you think about stuff, right?
So despite this increase,

488
00:18:58,650 --> 00:19:00,880
private school numbers have gone
up, right?

489
00:19:00,890 --> 00:19:02,820
So we haven't seen a dip.
We, you know, we're not seeing

490
00:19:02,830 --> 00:19:04,120
private schools closed down.
Sure.

491
00:19:04,130 --> 00:19:06,240
On the whole, we see the the
numbers of children go to

492
00:19:06,250 --> 00:19:08,360
private school now are higher
than they were in 20. 10 Is that

493
00:19:08,370 --> 00:19:10,040
due to population rise or is
that?

494
00:19:10,050 --> 00:19:12,300
Don't know, I just want.
To but it's it's not, it's not

495
00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:14,360
drastically gone down, it's not
gone down by 20%.

496
00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:16,160
It's not gone down yet.
We've not seen this massive like

497
00:19:16,170 --> 00:19:17,420
ohh no the loads of children.
Leaving.

498
00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:22,380
So what you're saying is a 20%
increase in in charging won't

499
00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:23,540
affect how many kids go to
private?

500
00:19:23,550 --> 00:19:26,040
School, it hasn't over that.
Time it probably should have

501
00:19:26,050 --> 00:19:29,260
should put VAT.
So I just need to bear that in

502
00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:30,730
mind, that's obviously that's a
longer period.

503
00:19:30,740 --> 00:19:32,810
Of time, yeah, OK, that's
they're really interesting

504
00:19:32,820 --> 00:19:35,540
facts, everything, yeah.
With all of that context and

505
00:19:35,550 --> 00:19:40,990
perspective, right, I, I agree
with Labour, I think we should

506
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,510
be adding VAT to private schools
tuition fees.

507
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,150
Sure, all right.
And I will go into why, but I

508
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,460
kind of want to just get your, I
don't want to influence it too

509
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:52,610
much.
I want to get your opinion on on

510
00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:55,020
Labour's plan because obviously
a lot of people are not agreeing

511
00:19:55,030 --> 00:19:59,290
with.
That right now I would say that

512
00:19:59,470 --> 00:20:03,280
90% of the people I've seen not
agree with it are people who

513
00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:05,240
went to or send their kids to
private school.

514
00:20:05,410 --> 00:20:06,980
And that makes a lot of.
Sense to me.

515
00:20:06,990 --> 00:20:08,030
Yeah, of course it makes.
Sense.

516
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,600
So that makes a lot of sense
because if a government come in

517
00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:13,680
and literally say that if you
want to continue your lifestyle,

518
00:20:13,930 --> 00:20:17,200
it will cost you thousands of
pounds extra per year, that's

519
00:20:17,210 --> 00:20:19,380
obviously annoying, right?
So I don't.

520
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,680
I'm going to preface this with I
I completely understand why you

521
00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:25,960
would be pissed.
Off there's like a user bias

522
00:20:25,970 --> 00:20:27,310
almost.
Yeah, of course there isn't

523
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,040
everything.
In life, if they well in and

524
00:20:29,050 --> 00:20:32,500
said well actually teaches, you
get this break, you get this

525
00:20:32,550 --> 00:20:34,680
cool thing that's because you're
teachers, but now you don't get

526
00:20:34,690 --> 00:20:36,160
it anymore.
We'd be annoyed at that.

527
00:20:36,170 --> 00:20:38,850
Yeah, because we're living.
It my, my gut instinct to answer

528
00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:42,820
your question is I absolutely
also think that it's well within

529
00:20:42,890 --> 00:20:46,930
the government's right to remove
the exemption because I think

530
00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:49,130
what I need, what we need to
think about it more is it's it's

531
00:20:49,140 --> 00:20:51,570
an exemption.
It's not like they're just

532
00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:53,780
whacking down attacks on
someone's, OK.

533
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:55,890
If you wanted to go and get
private healthcare, you'd have

534
00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:59,250
to pay VAT on your stuff.
OK, So if you want to go and get

535
00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:02,320
private education, I think it's
fair enough to say you need to

536
00:21:02,330 --> 00:21:05,420
pay it on that.
It's it's the removal of a perk

537
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:07,170
rather than the whacking of a
brand new tax or.

538
00:21:07,180 --> 00:21:09,580
Something, OK, keep that point
in mind because the 1st and the

539
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:11,700
biggest counter argument, which
I think you're kind of already

540
00:21:11,710 --> 00:21:14,220
playing against here that I've
seen online everywhere, you'll

541
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:17,180
see this everywhere, right, is
we're saving the government

542
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:22,060
money by not sending our child
to a state school, yet still

543
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:23,800
paying tax that contributes.
To it.

544
00:21:24,090 --> 00:21:25,080
That's the biggest one I've
seen.

545
00:21:25,090 --> 00:21:28,230
So unpick that.
OK my uncle is in his 50s and

546
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,100
he's never had children.
He's paid taxes whole life.

547
00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:33,490
Should he go back to the
government and say I'm, excuse

548
00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:36,010
me, I haven't taken advantage of
the schooling system because I

549
00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:37,810
don't have children?
No, because you know how you

550
00:21:37,820 --> 00:21:39,830
should look at it?
You went to school.

551
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,710
You're paying back because you
went to school.

552
00:21:41,780 --> 00:21:43,170
Yeah.
So when you're paying tax for

553
00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:45,650
stuff, that's because you're
paying back what you went to

554
00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:46,950
school.
For your uncle went to private

555
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,180
school.
They went to private school,

556
00:21:48,190 --> 00:21:50,490
then he paid for it, and then he
should have paid that on it.

557
00:21:50,860 --> 00:21:52,770
Like my uncles.
Also my my uncle.

558
00:21:52,780 --> 00:21:53,730
I don't know if this is true or
not.

559
00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:55,110
He might go and buy a brand new
car.

560
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:56,030
Yes.
Pave out on it.

561
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,130
Hmm.
Oh.

562
00:21:57,140 --> 00:22:00,050
Oh, but he's saving the trains
from being overcrowded by

563
00:22:00,060 --> 00:22:01,150
getting a car.
Yeah.

564
00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:04,270
So I was I was speaking to Rob
Smith, funny enough about this,

565
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,480
who's been on our podcast
before, and he literally said

566
00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:07,730
founder, yeah, literacy shed
founder.

567
00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:09,410
And he's really cool.
He often shares stuff.

568
00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:11,200
He's very into politics.
I think he shares a lot on his

569
00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:14,430
Facebook and we end up having a
chat about about that.

570
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,320
And he he made a really good
point about the passive benefits

571
00:22:17,330 --> 00:22:19,080
of school as well.
He was like, he was like, people

572
00:22:19,090 --> 00:22:22,220
just don't think outside the box
in terms of even if you don't

573
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:24,430
send your specific child there,
let's say you can't even

574
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,380
comprehend the idea of not
having kids, which already,

575
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:28,190
which already destroys the
argument in my opinion.

576
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:30,360
But you know, you sent your
child to private school.

577
00:22:30,370 --> 00:22:32,250
I'm paying tax for other
people's kids.

578
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,250
It's like, yeah.
But do you know what you and

579
00:22:34,260 --> 00:22:37,670
your child will benefit from the
wider society also going to

580
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,410
school?
Yeah.

581
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,710
Not everyone can afford private
school.

582
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,170
So even you want 93% of the
population to be uneducated.

583
00:22:42,180 --> 00:22:43,340
Yeah.
And you think that somehow

584
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:44,210
that's good.
Yeah.

585
00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:45,290
At least I'm not paying for
them.

586
00:22:45,340 --> 00:22:46,950
Yeah.
And he was like, OK, well, next

587
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,240
time, you know, if you're a
business owner.

588
00:22:48,250 --> 00:22:49,320
Yeah.
Next time you employ a bunch of

589
00:22:49,330 --> 00:22:50,430
people that go to private
school.

590
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,890
Yeah.
You can thank the state school

591
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,040
system.
You contribute to that.

592
00:22:53,050 --> 00:22:54,730
And I really like that wider
thing and it.

593
00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:57,290
And I guess it just made me
think about the passive benefits

594
00:22:57,300 --> 00:23:00,530
of taxes.
We can't start pretending about

595
00:23:00,540 --> 00:23:02,770
that.
Tax is like this individualised.

596
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,380
Yeah, we do for the services we
use.

597
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:07,320
It's never been like that.
Yeah, my counter argument, the

598
00:23:07,330 --> 00:23:11,360
same sort of thing would be I go
to the I use the NHS less than a

599
00:23:11,370 --> 00:23:14,420
lot of people.
I'm not gonna start declaring

600
00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:17,840
cash.
Back for it Well, yeah, you

601
00:23:17,850 --> 00:23:21,560
know, it's completely true Like
I know people who are on

602
00:23:21,630 --> 00:23:25,140
basically lifetime prescription,
right, Because they need that to

603
00:23:25,150 --> 00:23:28,620
survive day-to-day.
OK do we then put do we whack

604
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:30,670
attacks on them?
Do I turn around to that person

605
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,180
and say, well, I have a daily
prescription that I need to stay

606
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:35,510
alive that cost the taxpayer
this amount of money?

607
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,720
That's disgusting.
I mean, I'm giving them a tax

608
00:23:37,730 --> 00:23:38,990
break.
Why on earth should I pay tax?

609
00:23:39,130 --> 00:23:41,030
Because that's not how society
works.

610
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,990
Quite simply.
Yeah.

611
00:23:42,030 --> 00:23:44,320
And with education, it's the
same thing.

612
00:23:44,330 --> 00:23:47,200
And I don't want to preempt
your, your argument, Hayden, but

613
00:23:47,210 --> 00:23:50,560
one of the most annoying things
I find, and it really riles me

614
00:23:50,570 --> 00:23:56,480
up when someone says this is,
well, it's a tax on aspiration.

615
00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:59,100
I'm, I'm my I'm.
I've got some aspirations.

616
00:23:59,110 --> 00:24:01,160
I work hard for my kids.
Right.

617
00:24:01,170 --> 00:24:04,250
Listen, listen, everyone works
odd, OK?

618
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:05,860
Every assume everyone works
hard.

619
00:24:05,870 --> 00:24:08,670
Obviously some people don't
obviously assume everyone works

620
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,760
hard because damn, a lot of the
kids parents in my school work

621
00:24:11,770 --> 00:24:13,960
bloody hard.
So it's very condescending to

622
00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:16,240
say, well, I work hard because
let's look at this.

623
00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:20,260
At the end of the day, whether
you like it or not, if you can

624
00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:22,560
afford to, whether you're
scrimping and saving as much as

625
00:24:22,570 --> 00:24:24,760
you want, you could scrimp and
save massively to send your kids

626
00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:26,220
to school.
I agree with I, I, I'm not

627
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:27,040
saying you don't.
Right.

628
00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:28,480
Yeah.
But what I'm saying is that if

629
00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:31,510
you can find 15 grand a year to
send your kid to school, you are

630
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,760
not poor.
There is no amount of scrimping

631
00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:37,430
and saving that 80% of the
population could do to find 15

632
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,180
grand a year for their kid to go
to school.

633
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:40,980
Yeah.
So when you're saying my kid

634
00:24:40,990 --> 00:24:43,240
goes to private school, it's
because we, we give up other

635
00:24:43,250 --> 00:24:46,860
stuff like Rishi gives up his
Sky television, which is £40 a

636
00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:48,960
month because.
Because that's how we find our.

637
00:24:49,030 --> 00:24:51,960
Massive score piece of £15,000.
People are making big

638
00:24:51,970 --> 00:24:53,200
sacrifices.
They are.

639
00:24:53,210 --> 00:24:53,950
That's a fact.
Like.

640
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,630
That's I don't wanna ditch me
now because it's.

641
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,930
True, I speaking so I when I put
this Instagram thing out,

642
00:24:57,940 --> 00:25:00,090
obviously quite a lot of people
messaged back and it was really

643
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,500
useful.
Thank you by the way.

644
00:25:01,510 --> 00:25:03,780
So for messaging back, some
people agree with me, some

645
00:25:03,790 --> 00:25:05,940
people disagreed.
So there's no way I can win in

646
00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:07,040
this conversation.
I'm going to.

647
00:25:07,050 --> 00:25:10,050
I'm going to disagree with.
You so sorry but we live in a

648
00:25:10,060 --> 00:25:11,510
society and you have your own
opinion.

649
00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:17,360
Yeah, but I was saying but what
was your point my?

650
00:25:17,370 --> 00:25:19,710
Whole point was that people do
make sacrifices to go to school.

651
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,100
I'm not gonna say you don't, but
my point is if you have found 15

652
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:25,790
grand a year to send your child
to school, yeah, you are not

653
00:25:25,860 --> 00:25:27,910
actually in a position where
your life is.

654
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,450
Really.
Awful.

655
00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:30,790
Not it's, it's not.
I also find it really, really,

656
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,690
really, really condescending for
those people when people use

657
00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:34,430
that argument.
Yeah, we work really hard and

658
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,810
we're making big sacrifices and
there's sacrifices might be

659
00:25:36,820 --> 00:25:39,690
legitimate, it might not.
It might not be just Sky TV or

660
00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:41,290
whatever.
It could be because any

661
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,800
holidays, you know, we, we, we
don't go out for meals at

662
00:25:43,810 --> 00:25:45,640
restaurants.
We we get lose a lot of other

663
00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:47,660
luxuries.
Even and if you're comparing to

664
00:25:47,670 --> 00:25:50,280
someone who has the same
household income right and like

665
00:25:50,290 --> 00:25:52,460
let's say you have the same
household income you spent 15

666
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:54,350
grand and send your child to
school and you've made

667
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:57,700
sacrifices in that someone else
with the same income is going on

668
00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:59,930
6 holidays a year yeah you know
or or it's got a.

669
00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:03,160
Brand new card, Yeah or.
You know, whatever it is that's

670
00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:06,420
more fair, I think to be like,
well, OK, fine, but.

671
00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:08,390
That, but it's still not
horrible.

672
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,600
Yeah, exactly.
With people who are actually

673
00:26:11,610 --> 00:26:15,320
living paycheck to paycheck, who
don't have any luxuries anyway.

674
00:26:15,330 --> 00:26:17,750
Which is less than that.
Yeah, on its own, because we've

675
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,370
got to remember there's a huge,
huge population of people in

676
00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:23,100
this country who already don't
have any luxuries.

677
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:24,900
Yeah.
And they just about survive on

678
00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:27,160
the money they earn, right.
And to them, it's like if

679
00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:31,570
someone said to them, sacrifice
everything possible that you can

680
00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:33,890
so that you're like, you're on
the minimum amount to survive,

681
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:35,590
right?
They still wouldn't be able to

682
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,680
save up enough money for tuition
fees.

683
00:26:37,690 --> 00:26:39,170
And that's the point.
That's the comparison.

684
00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:41,610
So it's like you're not in the
same boat, and people need to

685
00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:43,380
get that.
I'm quite passionate about that,

686
00:26:43,390 --> 00:26:44,850
you know, You're saying I'm in
the same boat.

687
00:26:44,860 --> 00:26:49,670
No, you're not.
If you can mind 8K15K10K

688
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,460
whatever to send your kids to
private school, you're just not

689
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:54,250
in the same boat as people below
so just stop.

690
00:26:54,260 --> 00:26:57,370
Saying it, yeah, just find it
and, and, and to to me, one of

691
00:26:57,380 --> 00:26:59,690
the biggest things again, I say
to people and I'm I'm more than

692
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:00,850
willing.
I've not had the conversations

693
00:27:00,860 --> 00:27:02,850
you've had.
So my my opinions are probably

694
00:27:02,860 --> 00:27:06,590
much less been much less bashed
up and formed.

695
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,570
So be interesting for you to say
another big thing for me is OK,

696
00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:11,300
let's say the average IS15K,
right?

697
00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:14,150
Let's even look, let's just look
at 10K, right?

698
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,960
Let's just say it's 10K.
You're finding 10K year and a

699
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:20,800
20% increase is going to back
whack it up to 12 K.

700
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:22,880
Never mind the fact I think
private schools should be

701
00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:25,370
absorbing a bunch of this cost
like most businesses do when it

702
00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:27,790
comes to that and they think
about that especially if it's

703
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,760
been raised by 20% over the last
15 years.

704
00:27:29,850 --> 00:27:31,800
Ignore all of that.
Let's say it goes from 10K to

705
00:27:31,810 --> 00:27:33,660
12K.
OK, two options.

706
00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:37,060
Option one, you can't afford the
extra 2K OK cool.

707
00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:39,840
You just say 10K because it's a
free school place for you to go

708
00:27:39,850 --> 00:27:42,400
to that will cost you nothing
and you can get your kid into

709
00:27:42,410 --> 00:27:45,340
that school.
So let's not pretend this is the

710
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:47,460
end of the world for these
people, OK?

711
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Yeah, No.
But we can talk about, I can

712
00:27:49,770 --> 00:27:50,710
give you some.
Yeah, Come.

713
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,240
Back to you in a minute.
Scholarships and things like

714
00:27:52,250 --> 00:27:54,710
that, I understand.
But someone spending 10K a year

715
00:27:54,780 --> 00:27:57,150
and they've got to make that
tough decision, which of course

716
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,030
is not great for their child's
gotta move schools.

717
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,620
Ohh.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna wipe my

718
00:28:00,630 --> 00:28:03,280
tears away with my £10,000 a
year that I've saved because

719
00:28:03,290 --> 00:28:05,050
you've got a free school space
now.

720
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,800
OK, who's provocative now?
No, but it's, but what I'm

721
00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:09,190
saying is that doesn't wash with
me.

722
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,530
You can come up to me and say
that's annoying.

723
00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:14,050
I don't wanna spend an extra 2K
in tax a year and I'd be like, I

724
00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:15,330
understand that.
Yeah, completely.

725
00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:17,410
Off you go.
If if you, if you put, if you

726
00:28:17,420 --> 00:28:20,260
pretend that you're, you know
your life's over because your

727
00:28:20,270 --> 00:28:22,310
kid can't go to state school.
Are you saying life's over for

728
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,550
90% of population?
Already I know that's the thing.

729
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,940
It's another stat we've not
really mentioned.

730
00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:30,000
I guess it probably have to
start is that just over 93% of

731
00:28:30,010 --> 00:28:32,430
children in the UK go to state.
School, like when I have the

732
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,300
conversation, honestly, I'm
like, you do know I went to

733
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:36,240
state school, I had free school
meals at school.

734
00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:39,220
I went to state school.
You're essentially saying that

735
00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:43,500
my my life is so abominably
awful, like I can't comprehend

736
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:45,740
my kid possibly having the same
experiences you had.

737
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:49,820
Like Boris put out a TikTok or
something and you saw it about

738
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:52,020
and he was like, it's, it's not
fair to take it away.

739
00:28:52,030 --> 00:28:53,670
You know, We try.
People want to give their

740
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,380
children that leg up in society.
Yeah.

741
00:28:55,390 --> 00:28:57,150
And I really just even hate.
All that raises.

742
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,210
What do you mean a leg up as
we're saying we I want my child

743
00:29:00,220 --> 00:29:02,400
to trample on other people.
Why don't I get what you're

744
00:29:02,410 --> 00:29:05,450
saying it it doesn't sound good
in nature when you're saying a

745
00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:07,710
leg up is like, so you're saying
the schools aren't good enough

746
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,600
in that statement and that the
only way to do well is you

747
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:11,830
should you should go about other
people.

748
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,190
You should step on other people
and you can do that by paying.

749
00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:16,230
I just don't.
Like it and I shouldn't have to

750
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,730
pay more for that privilege.
Yeah, I shouldn't have to have

751
00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:20,620
actually.
Yeah.

752
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:22,880
What what are you on about?
Honestly, I shouldn't have to

753
00:29:22,890 --> 00:29:25,140
pay the fair.
Yeah, the literal law, like the

754
00:29:25,150 --> 00:29:27,100
going rate for everything that
we do in this country.

755
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:28,900
And I wanna come back to that
point really quick because you,

756
00:29:28,910 --> 00:29:30,300
you said it and you kind of
glossed over it.

757
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:33,200
And I think it's so important,
which is that the whole

758
00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:35,080
argument, We save the government
money.

759
00:29:35,170 --> 00:29:37,120
I flip it around, anyone says
no, you don't.

760
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:40,340
We save you money.
The taxpayer saves you money by

761
00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:43,200
subsidising 20% of the cost.
That's what's actually.

762
00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:46,040
Happening, yeah, the cost isn't.
Here and at some point in the,

763
00:29:46,050 --> 00:29:49,280
in the past, we decided to, to
say Nah, don't worry, the

764
00:29:49,290 --> 00:29:51,900
taxpayer will take pay 20% of
that for you.

765
00:29:51,970 --> 00:29:54,100
There you go.
So no, OK, we're getting rid of

766
00:29:54,110 --> 00:29:57,140
that now because you know what,
I get it, some families, there

767
00:29:57,150 --> 00:30:01,200
will be some families that are
pushed out of that bracket where

768
00:30:01,210 --> 00:30:03,500
they're already, you know, they
are scrimping and saving and I

769
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:05,240
get it.
And they're making sacrifices to

770
00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:09,070
such a degree where finding that
extra 20% might actually be

771
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,220
impossible for them.
I don't think it's many by the

772
00:30:11,230 --> 00:30:13,620
way, I don't think many people
have managed to budget 10,000

773
00:30:13,630 --> 00:30:16,360
lbs so perfectly, but they're
buying the cheapest food, never

774
00:30:16,370 --> 00:30:19,350
going out, never doing this.
They they've moved into the the

775
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,980
cheapest rented accommodation
they can find.

776
00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:22,980
Yeah, people, I don't think
people are doing that.

777
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,930
If it's that important to them,
then they'll make it work.

778
00:30:24,940 --> 00:30:27,220
Yeah, they'll find the other two
grand in, in my opinion, I think

779
00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:28,970
we're gonna see this big influx
of people leaving I.

780
00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:31,490
Think because I want to come on
to that point really quickly

781
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:33,710
because if you're already on the
higher end by Eaton, yeah,

782
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,970
you're spending 50 grand a year.
So so that that is a completely

783
00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:38,850
different lifestyle and no one's
thinking of those people.

784
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:41,290
But lots of people are saying
what about the people of less

785
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:43,390
money who are at the private
schools where it's like 3 grand

786
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,810
a year?
Yeah, because if 15 grand an

787
00:30:44,820 --> 00:30:47,130
average, I'm not saying 3 grand
a year exists, but you know,

788
00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:49,790
it's much less.
Well, that's also 20% of a much

789
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,430
lower.
Number.

790
00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:53,770
It's it's, it's, it's relative.
So like, you know, 20% of 5

791
00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:57,030
grand, Well, that that's a grand
a year, you know, that's £100 a

792
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,390
month.
You're already spending £500 a

793
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,410
month on school.
Yeah.

794
00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:04,310
And if you can't afford that
£100 jump, then then, OK,

795
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Honestly, join the rest of the
then don't.

796
00:31:06,210 --> 00:31:08,140
Yeah.
Because like, yeah, exactly.

797
00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:10,410
It's just condescending to be
like, oh, it's so bad for me.

798
00:31:10,420 --> 00:31:12,710
It's is it is it bad because 93%
of us are doing that.

799
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,850
So what you trying to say about
literally everyone else?

800
00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:19,150
I don't like that opinion.
But my overall point here, I

801
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,040
guess is, is people, people are
going to be knocked out.

802
00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:26,230
And I get it, it's not going to
be many, but I hate the idea

803
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,810
that it's to save those few
people.

804
00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:31,110
Yeah.
From losing their luxury.

805
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,620
Yeah, right.
And it is a luxury, Yeah.

806
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:33,940
And they have to go to state
school.

807
00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:35,580
Yeah.
To save those few people That

808
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:37,930
that that pain of doing that
being like the rest of us

809
00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:40,720
peasants.
I hate the idea that every child

810
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:43,200
at Eaton gets gets subsidised
20% by by.

811
00:31:43,210 --> 00:31:46,440
Me and you.
We're like really actual rich,

812
00:31:46,450 --> 00:31:48,680
actual rich people.
Reaching 20.

813
00:31:48,690 --> 00:31:52,390
Percent off of their fees at the
cost of us, the taxpayer.

814
00:31:52,610 --> 00:31:55,200
No, thank you.
Let's let's, I'm sorry, I'm

815
00:31:55,210 --> 00:32:00,320
sorry to the, the bottom, like
2% of the 7% of people that go

816
00:32:00,330 --> 00:32:02,380
to private school that you might
have to go to state school.

817
00:32:02,390 --> 00:32:06,070
I'm sorry, but I can't be, we
can't be subsidising those,

818
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,880
those people for $0.20.
It's not you getting added

819
00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:10,690
attacks.
It's, it's just you being

820
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:12,170
restored to what it always
should have been.

821
00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:13,400
And we're not subsidising
anymore.

822
00:32:13,410 --> 00:32:16,670
That's the way I see it Soz.
I think you, I think you're

823
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,220
completely right.
I think that I, I can't get over

824
00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:20,880
that.
I, I can't get over that jump.

825
00:32:20,890 --> 00:32:23,090
And one of the biggest things
again, I've seen in multiple

826
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,820
times, it's not big.
I suppose it's just a legitimate

827
00:32:24,830 --> 00:32:28,080
worry because I think on the
macro level of this discussion,

828
00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:30,770
right?
I I, I don't think I can be

829
00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:33,530
convinced by someone to go
against what I think right now

830
00:32:33,610 --> 00:32:35,720
that that sometimes I have an
opinion and I'm like, well, I

831
00:32:35,730 --> 00:32:37,670
think that, but yeah, OK with
this one.

832
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,770
I'm, I'm, I do think the facts
back up the ideology as well.

833
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,970
Yeah.
I don't just think it's an

834
00:32:41,980 --> 00:32:43,630
ideological battle that's been
held here.

835
00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:47,330
Government's job, right?
If you're looking at a state

836
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:50,640
school, it has to be to fix
state education and and also,

837
00:32:50,650 --> 00:32:52,270
you know, they have to raise
money to do that.

838
00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:53,830
For the many, not the few.
Exactly.

839
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,750
So 3% there go there.
I just don't think we can say to

840
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,650
the government that that's an or
you can disagree with it.

841
00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:03,020
This is what I wanna say.
You can disagree with it.

842
00:33:03,030 --> 00:33:06,500
And what I will do now is maybe
just make the separation here of

843
00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:11,320
the top level and the individual
because I absolutely would

844
00:33:11,330 --> 00:33:13,760
understand and sympathise
genuinely with anyone.

845
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:17,230
Yeah, who is in this situation
where they they they don't see

846
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,860
themselves as well off.
They might be because because

847
00:33:19,870 --> 00:33:21,340
it's hard to we've invested in
that bubble.

848
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:23,880
And as you've seen, poverty,
which exists for millions of

849
00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:27,000
kids in this country, unless
you've actually seen that, it's

850
00:33:27,010 --> 00:33:28,920
hard to grasp what that actually
looks like.

851
00:33:28,990 --> 00:33:32,380
Like struggling to put food on
the plate and parents not like

852
00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:34,740
OK, fine.
Get away from all Dylans.

853
00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:37,100
He's, he's pandering to the OK,
you're all that Then for a

854
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:40,150
minute.
OK, I I just think for the

855
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,650
individual you're allowed to be
annoyed.

856
00:33:41,660 --> 00:33:43,820
At this yeah, yeah, so can I can
I just shit because I know

857
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:44,830
you're gonna think of an
example.

858
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,890
I've got one yeah, go on.
So this is the the I'll speak to

859
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:49,540
someone Instagram.
They know who they are listening

860
00:33:49,550 --> 00:33:50,550
to this because I know it's an
argument.

861
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,410
I don't want to name you just in
case you didn't want to be named

862
00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:55,010
so I'm not going to do it.
But the the best counter

863
00:33:55,090 --> 00:33:57,450
argument I heard on a personal
level, all the macro stuff I

864
00:33:57,460 --> 00:33:59,950
could not be convinced away from
I'm like no, nothing convinced

865
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,180
me.
But on a personal level I'm

866
00:34:01,190 --> 00:34:02,950
like, OK, I get it.
This is bad for you and I have

867
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,700
no counter argument which is
this person was saying my child

868
00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:09,100
has SN that wasn't being met at
my state school.

869
00:34:09,110 --> 00:34:11,159
I live in a small village.
There weren't other options.

870
00:34:11,170 --> 00:34:13,380
It was either this school or
it's this private school, the

871
00:34:13,389 --> 00:34:15,080
private schools meeting my
child's CN needs.

872
00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:17,969
Therefore I'm not I'm not
claiming an EHCP through the

873
00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:19,130
government.
I'm not going to state school.

874
00:34:19,139 --> 00:34:21,500
I'm paying for it all privately.
But that needs are being met.

875
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:23,570
And if I had to go back to state
school, which I will do because

876
00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:25,960
I can't afford anymore that
those those needs are not going

877
00:34:25,969 --> 00:34:27,690
to be anymore.
And that's a real argument.

878
00:34:27,870 --> 00:34:29,840
And I and I was and.
That's convincing.

879
00:34:30,030 --> 00:34:33,760
That's convincing because
essentially that is the

880
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:36,780
government's right.
The government have failed your

881
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:39,770
child in this situation, don't
you have failed your child

882
00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:41,110
completely and is not meeting
their?

883
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,760
Needs the state school.
System so you've taken them out

884
00:34:44,070 --> 00:34:46,360
and technically the government
no longer have to accommodate

885
00:34:46,370 --> 00:34:48,679
them even though they weren't
anyway they weren't giving them

886
00:34:48,690 --> 00:34:51,480
enough but they don't know
anything now states you finally

887
00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:53,770
as a parent you think my child's
got he's finally get what they

888
00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:55,639
need.
It's a sacrifice for me because

889
00:34:55,650 --> 00:34:57,070
I could be spending this money
on other stuff.

890
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,330
My child gets what they want and
then the government come along

891
00:34:59,340 --> 00:35:01,860
again and say ohh no more money
please.

892
00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:06,140
Like I I I I get that I get that
and when you compare that to

893
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:10,200
genuinely Rishi Sunak's family
Inger 10K tax break every year

894
00:35:10,350 --> 00:35:13,640
just because it's 20% off and
it's a high high fee.

895
00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:18,900
Yeah that you know they are not
the same boat and and this is a

896
00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:22,420
sweeping generalisation of a
policy which it has to be.

897
00:35:22,430 --> 00:35:25,790
I think we can't I don't think
we can get into some schools

898
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,920
have that some schools don't
It's it's a weird one.

899
00:35:27,930 --> 00:35:30,300
You're basically judging what
school this class has too much

900
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:34,260
or too little or good or bad.
But the answer to that and it

901
00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:35,920
doesn't answer this person's
problem.

902
00:35:35,970 --> 00:35:38,410
It doesn't but the answer to
that is we need to fix our state

903
00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:40,030
schools.
Yeah, I agree that that is what

904
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,540
the answer to it's not ohh OK
let's carry on with the

905
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:44,380
sticking.
Plaster approach of yeah if if

906
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:46,400
it's failing why don't you just
go on afford private school?

907
00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:49,910
And the whole point of the ACT
is to spend on state schools and

908
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,820
what?
It has to be.

909
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:54,440
To be, it has to be.
I've seen a lot of people say,

910
00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:56,020
yeah, it's like it's 1.6
billion.

911
00:35:56,030 --> 00:35:56,650
I hope.
Yeah.

912
00:35:56,660 --> 00:35:59,060
And like, yeah, it sounds like a
big number, but like, it's

913
00:35:59,070 --> 00:36:01,000
really not that much money.
It's do you know what percentage

914
00:36:01,010 --> 00:36:02,650
increase of the education budget
that would?

915
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:03,840
Be Ohh no I've no idea, do you
know?

916
00:36:03,850 --> 00:36:05,480
Yeah, go on.
You know it would be it, would

917
00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:07,060
you think?
About God, I actually have no

918
00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:09,010
idea.
Like, honestly, like less than

919
00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:12,160
1%, two percent, 2%.
OK, so a little bit of money.

920
00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:13,130
Yeah, it's a little bit of
money.

921
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:13,950
It's not much.
I get that.

922
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,600
That's a good counter argument.
Isn't that much money.

923
00:36:15,610 --> 00:36:17,440
It isn't going to fix stuff.
No, absolutely not.

924
00:36:17,450 --> 00:36:19,190
It will need to be other things.
As well, but they're basically

925
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,880
saying they're going to hire
6500 teachers as a result.

926
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,330
I think it's a fascinating
debate.

927
00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:27,290
I, I, I feel very strongly about
it.

928
00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:31,980
I think as I've got older, I've
got a lot better at just trying

929
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:33,840
to be a bit more understanding
of individuals.

930
00:36:33,850 --> 00:36:36,080
Yeah, definitely.
But you know, when, like 1010

931
00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:37,950
years ago you said this to me,
I've been like, let's burn

932
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,050
private schools.
Let's knock them to the ground.

933
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,730
Do you know what argument no one
ever makes, which I find mental

934
00:36:42,740 --> 00:36:44,540
really to think about it.
It's a business, right?

935
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:46,850
It's a business in the day.
Isn't no one, no, this the

936
00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:48,470
extremities only.
No one's thinking.

937
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,100
Could the private school absorb
the cost actually, And actually

938
00:36:51,110 --> 00:36:52,830
the parents don't have to do it
because you know what they're

939
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,530
spending 90, they're spending
almost double on the chip, like

940
00:36:55,540 --> 00:36:57,520
children getting more double the
provision in terms of money than

941
00:36:57,530 --> 00:36:59,310
the state school kid, which
means there's definitely wiggle.

942
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,310
Room you could still get a lot
more than a state.

943
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,700
Considering it wasn't that big
in 2010, the gap we've.

944
00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:06,730
Already established 20% real
terms, which is the 20% that

945
00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:08,120
we're looking.
At so it's like, you know what

946
00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:09,880
schools could, there's a lot of
things schools could do.

947
00:37:09,890 --> 00:37:12,240
I reckon private schools, if
they really sat down and thought

948
00:37:12,250 --> 00:37:14,560
about it and stop moaning and
actually just thought.

949
00:37:14,830 --> 00:37:16,950
Oh, everything else in this
country has to have on it.

950
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,150
Yeah, like, have you seen how
square the state schools are?

951
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,390
We still, they still exist.
They still exist and they're

952
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,570
still providing care to
children.

953
00:37:22,580 --> 00:37:25,460
And I get that they've been
screwed so far that yeah, again,

954
00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:27,350
these things aren't being met
anymore.

955
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,830
But private schools have got a
way, way bigger like surplus on

956
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,930
that where I'm like, you know
what, they probably could say

957
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,430
we'll absorb half that.
Your fees are going up a bit and

958
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,450
and we're not going to, we're
going to increase the fees.

959
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:40,650
Anywhere whether profit up this.
Time we won't back up our profit

960
00:37:40,660 --> 00:37:41,930
a little bit for like the next
three years.

961
00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:44,400
There's things that I think
private schools could do.

962
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,350
And and if a business was going
bust on the High Street right

963
00:37:47,660 --> 00:37:52,390
and and and scrapping that would
help them, but they don't know

964
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,100
today.
Yeah, the government does go

965
00:37:54,110 --> 00:37:54,410
ohh.
What?

966
00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:57,520
You'll you'll you'll be all we
didn't know about you would No,

967
00:37:57,530 --> 00:37:59,450
your business isn't viable.
It closes.

968
00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:01,820
Down, yeah, you adapt or or it
dies and then someone else.

969
00:38:01,830 --> 00:38:04,630
We have, we run an education
business that charges that me

970
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,010
and you, right.
We went through the threshold of

971
00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:10,460
tax, which is a certain amount.
You gotta have a revenue every

972
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:11,580
year.
Yeah, if you go past that

973
00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:13,290
threshold, you've got to
introduce that you have to

974
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:15,170
charge.
It's really annoying because

975
00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:17,570
what happens is you have a whole
thing set up and you charge your

976
00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:19,510
customers a certain amount of
money.

977
00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:22,170
You go through the threshold for
that and you've got two options.

978
00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:26,210
Either you basically take the
hit yourself or you add 20% to

979
00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:27,460
your.
Cost, which is what it's

980
00:38:27,470 --> 00:38:29,110
supposed to be, but a lot of
businesses don't.

981
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,370
Do that as a business, we've
been, we've been functioning for

982
00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:34,710
two years and suddenly there's a
20% increase in our in our from,

983
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,550
from a customer inflation.
And we were like.

984
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:39,130
Yeah, from from a customer's
point of view, it's not like

985
00:38:39,140 --> 00:38:42,630
America where there's an amount
and then and taxes on at the end

986
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,750
when you get to the till.
And you think that's very much

987
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,670
like, cool, well, I'm paying
this for this and then bloody

988
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,860
government putting tax on.
Yeah, it's not like that in this

989
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:50,130
country.
In this country, it's just

990
00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:52,250
that's how much this costs and
that's embedded in there.

991
00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:55,170
So the government kind of get
away with that idea of it.

992
00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:56,330
No, no, no.
This is what the cost is.

993
00:38:56,340 --> 00:38:58,250
So as a business, I get it.
It's really annoying.

994
00:38:58,260 --> 00:39:01,140
And me and Hayden had to sit
down and have a discussion about

995
00:39:01,150 --> 00:39:03,550
what's gonna have the minimal
impact on our business.

996
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,430
Even we absorb the cost and it's
no different for our customers

997
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,280
and we absorb it.
There are profits and we try and

998
00:39:08,290 --> 00:39:12,160
save money elsewhere or we put
our money up by as much as that

999
00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:14,140
is.
And then we we're absolutely

1000
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:15,520
fine, but we risk losing
customers.

1001
00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:17,710
Yeah.
And we had to weigh up where on

1002
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,250
that scale do we land to try and
minimise the impact on our

1003
00:39:20,260 --> 00:39:22,120
business.
But you know, we didn't do, we

1004
00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:24,300
didn't sit there and go we
shouldn't bloody pay that.

1005
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:26,230
We shouldn't do it.
We're like, no, of course we.

1006
00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:29,530
Do we sat down and we made our
business much, much, much better

1007
00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:32,750
and more desirable to attract
more people again and and and

1008
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,220
then we put the put the price up
over.

1009
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:34,820
Time.
And you know what?

1010
00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:36,780
If someone didn't want to come,
they don't have to.

1011
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:38,040
They got school education.
Right.

1012
00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:39,300
Yeah, exactly.
We're a luxury.

1013
00:39:39,310 --> 00:39:41,500
So we we offer a luxury and
private schools are luxury as

1014
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:41,820
well.
Yeah.

1015
00:39:41,830 --> 00:39:43,960
So there you go.
Interesting one.

1016
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,380
Yeah, as I take that, I would be
annoyed if I didn't mention

1017
00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:47,690
this.
Right.

1018
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,630
There's one last counter
argument that you might have

1019
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,630
already answered.
Whatever the last counter I've

1020
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,120
seen, the big one is that
there's going to be a massive

1021
00:39:54,190 --> 00:39:57,600
influx of children who can no
longer meet the threshold of

1022
00:39:57,610 --> 00:40:00,020
private school fees that will
have to suddenly join state

1023
00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:01,150
school.
This is going to happen at the

1024
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,550
same time.
What do you think about that

1025
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,750
argument?
That there was someone from

1026
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,100
Labour I think.
I can't remember her name.

1027
00:40:06,110 --> 00:40:09,650
Someone from Labour, like a long
experienced member of the party

1028
00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:12,650
was on television and this got
put to her and you could just

1029
00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:14,810
tell that she wasn't part of the
education ministry was just

1030
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:17,180
basically it was put to her and
she brushed it off.

1031
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:18,970
And she was based like, yeah,
well, whatever.

1032
00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:20,480
And that was picked up on by
everyone.

1033
00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:24,460
That was like, ohh, already know
how how stress schools are.

1034
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:27,310
What was really funny to me was
when the Tory MP's, the Tory

1035
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,810
people were jumping on their
ohh, who's gonna join?

1036
00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:32,430
Are they in a broken system?
Yeah, yeah.

1037
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,610
Actually, this isn't.
That's interesting because I

1038
00:40:35,620 --> 00:40:39,340
think you're in charge of this
whole country, but, and that

1039
00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:41,800
rightly agitated some people and
even a few teachers will talk to

1040
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:43,380
me about it.
And they were like that bloody

1041
00:40:43,390 --> 00:40:46,540
Labour person just was just just
didn't care that I'd have maybe

1042
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:49,180
two extra kids in my class.
And I had to say to them, you

1043
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:51,940
won't, Yeah, you won't.
Cause it's, it's 7%, right?

1044
00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:54,900
Yeah, 7% if we're looking at
the, that, that's like two kids

1045
00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:57,020
per class, right.
Let's save all of them came

1046
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:58,200
back.
Yeah.

1047
00:40:58,210 --> 00:41:00,080
No private schools.
I mean, you're gonna get two

1048
00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:02,280
kids per class if all of them
come back, right.

1049
00:41:02,290 --> 00:41:04,980
If 50% of them come back, you
get one kid extra in your class.

1050
00:41:04,990 --> 00:41:07,120
Not gonna, it's not gonna be
anywhere near 50%.

1051
00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:09,490
It's gonna be more like one or
two Pascal.

1052
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Yeah, I saw some conservative
numbers that were like, let's

1053
00:41:12,130 --> 00:41:14,700
imagine 10% of children no
longer go to private school

1054
00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:16,770
more.
So I've got two retorts to that.

1055
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,410
OK.
Yeah, Number one is it's a

1056
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:21,350
separate point that we've got a
fixed scores.

1057
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:23,020
I can't keep saying it.
We've got a fixed scores.

1058
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:25,210
We know that that's how we gonna
raise money to do it, OK.

1059
00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:29,530
So yeah, I know it's broken, but
part of that point is every year

1060
00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:31,690
this year, right, I had four
people starting my class.

1061
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:35,050
This year, I had four extra
people come in and some left,

1062
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:37,390
sure.
But I'm net two up on when I

1063
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,880
started this year.
OK, I crack on.

1064
00:41:39,970 --> 00:41:41,080
Yeah, I'm a teacher.
What?

1065
00:41:41,090 --> 00:41:44,000
It's gone from 29 to 31.
OK.

1066
00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:45,320
I mean, I've got a mark
connection.

1067
00:41:45,330 --> 00:41:47,270
You know it, that these people
come with needs.

1068
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,060
I've gotta be met and stuff.
But it's, you know, as a

1069
00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:52,800
teacher, we have been drilled
enough to to understand that we

1070
00:41:52,810 --> 00:41:54,920
can cope with a class of 31 or a
class of 28.

1071
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:56,280
Like we know how to do that.
Yeah.

1072
00:41:56,290 --> 00:41:57,660
You just get on with it.
OK.

1073
00:41:57,730 --> 00:42:00,780
The second thing that I would
say to that is, yeah, OK, people

1074
00:42:00,790 --> 00:42:03,740
can join, but they're they're
not going to right.

1075
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:06,570
And when they do, people are
like, oh, but they've got to

1076
00:42:06,580 --> 00:42:08,420
join in the school.
Isn't that so detrimental to

1077
00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:11,260
them because they're they're
really settled in their school.

1078
00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:14,040
Absolutely.
Is is true that for some

1079
00:42:14,050 --> 00:42:15,900
children they'll be really
upsetting to move school.

1080
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:16,690
Yeah right.
Yeah.

1081
00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:20,220
Every single kid who's joined my
class ever within three days

1082
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:21,660
it's like I've been in the class
for 10 years.

1083
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:22,720
Yeah.
Completely fine they are

1084
00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:24,580
absolutely because they are
children are incredibly

1085
00:42:24,590 --> 00:42:26,300
resilient.
They make new friends and guess

1086
00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:29,400
what we're not rabid animals in
state school yeah.

1087
00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:31,700
My kids really care for kids
when they start and they.

1088
00:42:31,710 --> 00:42:34,540
Leave school and go to another
one anyway, so they used to it.

1089
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:36,390
And if you're in a primary,
Junior School as well, like

1090
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,720
schools, Junior School kids also
join us in year three.

1091
00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:40,340
It's like, yeah, it's not that
bad.

1092
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:43,170
I also think it's just a load of
baloney scaremongering in my

1093
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:43,770
opinion.
Scare.

1094
00:42:44,050 --> 00:42:45,900
Ohh.
It's like, no, do you know what?

1095
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:48,680
I think a very very, very very
few amount of people who are

1096
00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:52,000
paying 10K a year are are going
to say I physically cannot

1097
00:42:52,010 --> 00:42:55,670
sacrifice anything else in my
life to find this extra 2 grand.

1098
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,810
So I'm gonna have to go to
school.

1099
00:42:56,820 --> 00:42:59,220
I think it's gonna be a tiny
number of people will deal with

1100
00:42:59,230 --> 00:43:02,600
it just like they've dealt with
the 20% rise in in fees over the

1101
00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:04,120
years and private school places
is not going down.

1102
00:43:04,130 --> 00:43:06,220
Anyway, I think that'd be fine.
I think that is exactly where I

1103
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:07,840
draw my line at the bottom of
this argument.

1104
00:43:07,850 --> 00:43:11,300
And I would just say to people,
if your child is going to

1105
00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:14,570
private school, I do not believe
that you are on the breadline,

1106
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,810
no.
And, and, and you may have

1107
00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:17,990
pushed yourself to the bread
line.

1108
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,220
Hmm, OK.
We may have made more sacrifices

1109
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:22,350
than you may made more sacrifice
that people get it.

1110
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,310
But if you are thinking of the
macro level of the children I

1111
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,990
deal with every single day who
have one jumper and it's 30

1112
00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:31,900
three days into the week, their
parents could not afford 10

1113
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:35,610
grand a year even if they spent
nothing ever so.

1114
00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:39,580
You're not in the same, sorry.
Anyway, good chat, I went on a

1115
00:43:39,590 --> 00:43:41,500
bit longer than I thought.
Yeah, great chat.

1116
00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:43,120
I love that.
Maybe we'll do a quick little

1117
00:43:43,130 --> 00:43:47,740
segment at the end and we were
gonna have the next segment as

1118
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:49,800
this episode, but I think this
is gonna be episode title now.

1119
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,720
And what I'll do is I'm going to
run through now my top tips to

1120
00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:56,520
survive times 6 cause bloody
tough inning.

1121
00:43:56,530 --> 00:43:58,540
Yeah, let's do it after the
Jingle, of course.

1122
00:43:58,620 --> 00:44:03,930
Most paying the Jingle Alright
guys we're back and we did have

1123
00:44:03,940 --> 00:44:06,420
a little chat in the jungle and
I know there's like this

1124
00:44:06,430 --> 00:44:08,780
episode.
I said well this episode called

1125
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:10,380
something else will come on at
the end, but we'll chat about

1126
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:12,580
something he wants to talk about
That turned into a really nice

1127
00:44:12,590 --> 00:44:15,140
long chat.
I think about the whole private

1128
00:44:15,150 --> 00:44:17,080
school that thing.
So we're going to have that as

1129
00:44:17,090 --> 00:44:19,490
the bulk of this episode.
So instead, I'm going to save my

1130
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:23,310
top tips for how to survive
times 6 to next week, one week

1131
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,770
closer to the end of Year 6.
Anyway, people to TuneIn?

1132
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,020
I know, right?
So yeah, come back next week

1133
00:44:28,030 --> 00:44:31,910
when we will be talking about
our top tips on the craziness

1134
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,380
that is time 6 and how to how to
get through to the end of the

1135
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:36,060
year, which hopefully will be
helpful to you guys.

1136
00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:38,640
So just to round off this
episode then I've got a little

1137
00:44:38,650 --> 00:44:40,900
game.
OK, I've game I I love them

1138
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:42,440
online.
You see shorts and reels and

1139
00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:44,180
stuff and it's always like
little games people play.

1140
00:44:44,190 --> 00:44:46,480
And I'm always thinking, can we
turn it into something where

1141
00:44:46,490 --> 00:44:48,860
it's like education based?
The problem is that you can't

1142
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:50,460
top.
You'll never be able to top the

1143
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:52,720
game from last week or the week
before, whenever it was the

1144
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:55,980
bowling hypothetical.
Yeah, well, listen.

1145
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:57,990
Please don't listen to me.
We lost our minds.

1146
00:44:58,190 --> 00:44:59,700
I think that last week that was
really.

1147
00:44:59,710 --> 00:45:01,580
I ended up asking that to like
random people.

1148
00:45:01,590 --> 00:45:02,940
It was.
Just in the street.

1149
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:05,260
Just like what it was like
20/20/10.

1150
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:06,670
People listening won't know.
Yeah.

1151
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,170
OK.
So don't watch it quick

1152
00:45:08,180 --> 00:45:11,320
hypothetical.
I just say really quick, you had

1153
00:45:11,330 --> 00:45:13,000
was it 10?
I don't mean to say 10.

1154
00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:15,520
Yeah, go.
On I'll get it wrong basically,

1155
00:45:15,790 --> 00:45:18,040
which would you rather nothing
in your life changed whatsoever?

1156
00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:22,780
Yeah or you have this other
option where you get 10 million

1157
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:25,510
hundred million pound £100
million if you bowl a strike in

1158
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,100
in one game in a game 10/10/10
attempts.

1159
00:45:28,110 --> 00:45:31,470
But if you don't, if you don't,
you tend to a dog, right?

1160
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,960
So anyway, my game is very
simple.

1161
00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:38,800
I've got 8 words here.
I need you to say these words,

1162
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:41,100
OK?
So I ticked them off when you

1163
00:45:41,110 --> 00:45:42,860
say them.
The only way I can get you to

1164
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:44,790
say them is I give you clues,
right?

1165
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:48,870
I've got 20 words to play with.
So for example, let's say the

1166
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,680
word is phone.
I might say OK.

1167
00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:54,240
Talk.
OK, and then I guess a word.

1168
00:45:54,250 --> 00:45:56,440
Based guess a word based on
talk, you might say microphone,

1169
00:45:56,450 --> 00:45:58,520
OK, no, no.
Then I get another word and I

1170
00:45:58,530 --> 00:46:03,500
might say it's OK, just get 5
minutes on your phone contract.

1171
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:07,490
OK, so if Hayden gets it, you've
got 20 of my words to get

1172
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:09,280
through.
Eight, I can't get all 8IN that

1173
00:46:09,290 --> 00:46:11,580
2020 per.
One, you need to average like

1174
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:13,700
two and a half, 2 1/2 words per.
Question.

1175
00:46:13,970 --> 00:46:16,280
OK, ready.
Good words, but the only thing

1176
00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:17,600
you're getting and you can play
along at home.

1177
00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:22,760
Please do is these it's themed
around our job education and you

1178
00:46:22,770 --> 00:46:32,350
know so so first word OK, rare.
Time.

1179
00:46:34,220 --> 00:46:38,290
No sheets.
Glue.

1180
00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:39,730
Yes, glue.
Well done.

1181
00:46:39,740 --> 00:46:48,650
So you're on two next one time.
Planning.

1182
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:53,520
Afternoon.
PA.

1183
00:46:53,530 --> 00:46:58,950
Yes, well done.
So on four OK help.

1184
00:47:01,650 --> 00:47:08,500
Staff meetings help.
Buddy help me I wanna leave No

1185
00:47:10,070 --> 00:47:18,930
good ohh team.
TI yes, I realise.

1186
00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:20,530
That yes, yes.
OK.

1187
00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:23,460
So 1633 out of eight, well, we
were doing OK.

1188
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,410
OK, next one tree.
Failed.

1189
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:32,480
Staff Room.
Wait sorry, did you say tree or

1190
00:47:32,490 --> 00:47:42,320
tree treat?
So treat stuff from birthday.

1191
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:51,200
Candles.
That just makes me think better

1192
00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:53,410
again.
Birthday celebrations.

1193
00:47:53,420 --> 00:47:56,060
Birthday cake is it?
Like a daily word gay Jesus

1194
00:47:56,070 --> 00:47:57,240
Christ.
OK.

1195
00:47:57,250 --> 00:48:00,350
So they're free then?
Yeah, Yeah.

1196
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,970
OK.
Ohh.

1197
00:48:01,980 --> 00:48:07,000
OK, Alright, next one maps
geography.

1198
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:13,580
Yes, easy, easy.
Um, ohh, next one row five out

1199
00:48:13,590 --> 00:48:15,080
of eight.
OK, this is a sick word.

1200
00:48:15,090 --> 00:48:19,050
Warm.
That's rubbish.

1201
00:48:19,180 --> 00:48:24,520
Ohh, microwave.
That classic education tool is

1202
00:48:24,530 --> 00:48:26,520
it.
Sorry, every star has a

1203
00:48:26,530 --> 00:48:30,560
microphone.
Lost.

1204
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,130
Ohh God I'm lost.
Um, warm and lost.

1205
00:48:39,140 --> 00:48:42,440
Ohh I don't know, I'm going to
just say some random so I can

1206
00:48:42,450 --> 00:48:46,380
get another word shared area.
I don't know, I don't know.

1207
00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:47,970
OK, another clue.
Buttons.

1208
00:48:50,030 --> 00:49:03,800
Lost buttons lost.
Lost property now jumper coat.

1209
00:49:04,350 --> 00:49:06,070
Ohh no.
Yeah.

1210
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:16,090
You know, look like.
Having ohh, I don't know.

1211
00:49:16,530 --> 00:49:19,070
It's stuck.
Lighter.

1212
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,040
OK, umm, cardigan.
Yes, yes, you said jump and I

1213
00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:27,280
was like my next one was jumper.
Yeah.

1214
00:49:27,290 --> 00:49:30,800
Yeah, cool. 2 for 6/10/14.
We're 14.

1215
00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:32,070
You got six guesses.
Get the last two.

1216
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:32,690
We're gonna.
Ohh.

1217
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:33,490
Come on.
Come on.

1218
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:39,010
Come on here.
To know which homophone you

1219
00:49:39,020 --> 00:49:42,250
mean.
Oh my God that's so different

1220
00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:49,810
headphones.
Morning.

1221
00:49:52,410 --> 00:49:56,160
Whistle.
Lunch.

1222
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:05,180
Break time.
No here.

1223
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:09,830
Morning, lunch.
Check.

1224
00:50:13,550 --> 00:50:15,260
I'm still stuck on which here it
is.

1225
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:17,500
I'm like you came in so
different.

1226
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:21,750
Something in here or I hear what
was the last one.

1227
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,980
Sorry.
Check.

1228
00:50:23,110 --> 00:50:24,940
Check here.
Morning lunch.

1229
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:26,120
Check.
Here.

1230
00:50:26,170 --> 00:50:28,400
Morning, lunch.
Check register.

1231
00:50:28,410 --> 00:50:31,490
Yes, well, here's your here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1232
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:32,430
You can whistle.
That's right.

1233
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,780
Only got 2 left to get this one.
No.

1234
00:50:33,790 --> 00:50:39,790
OK, monotonous.
Planning.

1235
00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:50,980
Extremely.
Whoa ohh, that's so.

1236
00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:53,740
Funny what you said, jumper.
I honestly, my brain went ohh,

1237
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:56,300
God, and when you said birthday
because my next one was birthday

1238
00:50:56,310 --> 00:50:57,110
as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1239
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,360
I was gonna say birthday, and
you're like, birthday.

1240
00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:02,470
The candles on my cake.
Yeah.

1241
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,490
Treating the staff room.
Funny Cake.

1242
00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:06,430
That was really good game.
I thought it was gonna be a lot

1243
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:07,450
easier, actually.
Yeah.

1244
00:51:07,460 --> 00:51:09,210
When we did the first couple, I
was like, we're gonna do this in

1245
00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:11,120
like 10 guesses.
Now, because it's one word and

1246
00:51:11,130 --> 00:51:13,020
like you said, there's always
like little tiny.

1247
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:16,850
Bit here I was like ohh man both
of my phones are so relevant

1248
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,390
here as you know.
Yeah.

1249
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,060
I thought it was quite good.
I enjoyed.

1250
00:51:22,070 --> 00:51:24,950
That here, right here.
Oh, I get it now.

1251
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,570
You hear on the playground.
Because I thought one, I

1252
00:51:27,580 --> 00:51:29,060
thought, why?
Why has the whistle in your

1253
00:51:29,070 --> 00:51:29,830
hands?
You really laugh?

1254
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,070
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that that really made sense.

1255
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:34,660
Well, it doesn't look.
I appreciate that I need to find

1256
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:36,930
some games.
Because I need to do anything to

1257
00:51:36,940 --> 00:51:42,110
do this podcast would be great.
Would have one story, really

1258
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,930
provocative, really provocative
between now and at some point.

1259
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,890
That's really that's that's
vague enough for me to enjoy go

1260
00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:52,150
guys gonna finish up there.
Hope you enjoyed that one and do

1261
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,050
let us know because we, I don't
know, I felt like we were very,

1262
00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:56,470
very opinionated on that one.
Very.

1263
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,480
Yeah, you might have always
agree.

1264
00:51:58,490 --> 00:52:02,070
And you know what?
We're not afraid to hear new.

1265
00:52:04,010 --> 00:52:05,820
We're not wrong.
I'm joking.

1266
00:52:05,830 --> 00:52:08,520
We we could be.
But no, I don't know.

1267
00:52:08,530 --> 00:52:10,240
I feel like we evaluate that
point pretty well.

1268
00:52:10,310 --> 00:52:11,880
Yeah.
I think the greater good

1269
00:52:11,890 --> 00:52:14,800
outweighs the some of the
negatives for sure A few

1270
00:52:14,810 --> 00:52:16,220
individual people, which I'm not
gonna.

1271
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:17,310
It's not negative.
It is.

1272
00:52:17,350 --> 00:52:18,980
I think the greatest good is
more important.

1273
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:20,420
I think we should have a private
schools.

1274
00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:23,190
Let us know what you think and
let us know you thought about

1275
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,220
the game. 20 questions maybe how
you do it to me next time.

1276
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,790
See you in the next one.
Bye bye everyone.