Ep 66: Does Becoming A Parent Negatively Affect Your Teaching?

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Head over.
Ohh.

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Come back to that episode ohh.
He might hang on, hang on, Just.

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A minute.
My name is Dylan.

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Hello.
Hang on guys.

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Go on, I'm ready now.
Yeah.

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OK.
Hi, everyone.

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Right.
Don't explain to the views what

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just happened.
No, the viewers, the listeners,

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No, not really.
Every single week before we

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start because obviously, as you
know, we had the same start

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every week.
Meet me as quickly as I can

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saying hello everyone.
And I say to Hayden, Are you

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ready?
And he goes, Yeah.

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And then I start talking and he
immediately bends over to grab

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his water, his mouth obviously a
metre away from the mic there,

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not ready to say my name is
Hayden and we have to stop.

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So he decided this week my name
is Hayden.

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That's the problem.
I don't understand the problem

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here.
I think this is a good start.

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I I do too.
I always think in my head of new

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listeners.
I know we have a lot of

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returning listeners.
I just always think of new

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listeners going.
No, I am.

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A parent teacher.
This is episode sounds

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interesting balancing the being
a parent and teaching.

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I'll click on this I reckon.
That doesn't matter.

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I reckon they listen through
that because it's funny, and

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then they stop listening when
you know what a spray bottle is.

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Drip that.
Guys, last week you listened.

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Dylan didn't know what a spray
bottle was.

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You described it as something
like ohh yeah, you put the

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pressure in.
The pressure pushes all this

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water out.
What will he come up with today?

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I couldn't remember the word for
a spray.

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Bottle So I just described what
happened in one.

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It's alright.
I've had a week away with you

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and it's been great because I
get to see I just have a bit

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more insight into you all the
time.

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And you are you are like a
walking meme.

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You're just funny.
Well.

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Like the fact that the fact that
we lost the bike lock keys and

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then and then you found them at
home.

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The old story.
You lost the keys right where

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the bike was locked up and then
we had to give the bikes back at

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the end of our centre parks trip
and obviously one of his bikes

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to him and he couldn't find the
keys for.

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It I didn't know what it was.
And we joked, we, we, we joked

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whilst we were there, like, ohh,
it's, it's probably in some of

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Dylan's clothes that have been
packed away because that's

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Dylan.
That's just classic him.

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No, no, no, it wasn't.
It wasn't got home.

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It was literally in his shorts
pocket.

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I felt, I felt a bump in my
shorts.

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I was like, well, I'll just take
that.

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Wear the shorts again.
And then I put the short time so

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funny.
So it was in a ones that I

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packed away.
Hmm.

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We'd unpacked everything and
obviously a bunch of the shorts,

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but I wore them for like half a
day and I was like, why them

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again?
So put them on and I was

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bumping.
I was just playing with Rory and

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I said, well, just take that
out.

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And what is it was geese that we
spent half an hour looking for

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in the morning.
But you know, I'm glad he got an

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insight into my life.
Do you want to be careful

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because people are listening to
this?

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Who?
I'm not sure they are.

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Who did go back to work last
week?

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They've had a whole week at
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So yeah, are we gonna pretend
that we also went back to work

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or we gonna just massively talk
now for 10 minutes about our

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holiday?
We.

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Had.
I think we should rub it in

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their faces.
Yeah.

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But we had an extra week off.
We did, and that's probably the

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right thing.
To do so, we went in the box

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who's been Centre parks.
There's no, because I've never

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now I have raised his hand for
anyone listening, don't know

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what to expect.
And it was actually, it was

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really quite good.
It was really good.

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Yeah, it was really good.
It was really nice.

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I think we had low expectations,
probably more because of the

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fact that we were taking our
6:00 and 8:00.

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Months for me because you were
going.

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This guy is going to be
annoying.

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Yeah, yeah, I had very low
expectations.

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I thought if I don't wanna big
up too much and and be like, oh,

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we're gonna do all these things
and then realise that actually

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we're gonna get there, we're
just gonna be nap trapped

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constantly by our children.
But they were pretty good,

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weren't they?
Got on with it and we kind of

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got around their naps.
Yeah, I thought.

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We just they just let them nap
when they.

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Felt sorry for Rory though when
I got home when I was chatting

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to my parents obviously
afterwards and I was right and I

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was like I don't really know.
Poor boy got no attention

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because River was just so loud
and annoying all the time.

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I even.
Blessed.

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She's not annoying.
She was annoying restaurants.

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The restaurant she was.
She doesn't stop.

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She's just like I'm constantly
moving around.

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Yeah, she's constantly moving.
It's hilarious.

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Ohh Paul Rory blessing we just
say really nicely and his pram

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just like that's OK mummy and.
Daddy, get your dinner.

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I guess the difference is we
parent properly so.

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That's it, isn't it?
That was a running joke.

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It's weird because what we do is
we just, we just tell our

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eight-month old don't do that.
And he doesn't.

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He doesn't.
And then you must just let your

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six month old run, right?
Yeah, I do.

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Yeah, she's running around the
house.

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Yeah, she's knocking the door
down at the.

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Moment, yeah, we're gonna talk
about parenting in this episode.

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We'll leave that for now, but
any talk about syntax?

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Bit more can I say one of my
highlights.

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Yeah, one of my highlights, I'll
go back, one of my highlights

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was every single time we booked
something.

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You having no idea how anything
worked in centre parks.

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That was fun.
So the 15th time, so we like

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we'd, we'd booked all this stuff
and we went to, we went to the

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table tennis, which we have to
book, obviously you have to book

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a table tennis table.
And so I went out, paid for it,

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got the paddles and stuff.
Anyway, So, and we, we just, we

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just stop when we want.
Do we, Hayden, you know

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everything else in this place
where you have to book a time

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slot because then the next
person to book a time.

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Slot.
Well, she didn't say.

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Do you think that we just stay
on the for the is no, OK, no

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clarify with the?
Person I wouldn't they don't

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tell me you go there you go,
there you go.

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Enjoy your on table. 3 scuse me
these three is a £20, so I

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assume that's a lot of get me
started on the features mental,

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but 20 everything at Centre
Parks is extremely expensive.

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Yeah, extremely expensive.
So Hayden didn't understand

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that.
So when it was the 19th time of

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buying something expensive, he
still tried to clarify

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something.
Do that because it's quite

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expensive.
Stepping into play is wrong with

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what?
No, Hayden, Everything's just

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the more expensive.
Here, listen, right there it

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goes deeper than that, right?
Well, was that was that this

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restaurant was.
Messy.

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Guana, that's a guana as
Mexican.

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And most meals were like £15.
They weren't 1516 quid.

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They were, they were.
And this one, the ones packed

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with rice, which is like 50
kilos, Yeah, not, not the ones

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that come with like two piece of
dip and tortillas and Tesco's

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the one I got.
So the fajita stack was like 21

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quid and I was like, hey, that's
going to be, that's clearly

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going to be more then there's
like 5-6.

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More, it was 19.
Pounds.

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It wasn't it wasn't, it was a
very very small tray of chicken

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but we got stopped at the bottom
anyway because they put on some

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boiling things like it says ohh
sizzling.

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Can't eat it though can I cause
it's now stuck to it.

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My favourite dinners are the
ones that aren't actually cooked

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yet and still cook on your
table.

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Right.
Yeah, they burn in front of you.

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It was just a joke.
It was an absolute joke.

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But one thing that was a
massive.

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Highlight you tried to say 5
minutes ago.

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What was the and you enjoyed
this as well?

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So me and Dylan have not been
eating sugar?

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No, but this week.
Well, can we not talk about

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ourselves with the same boat
here?

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Like me and Dylan have both been
not eating sugar.

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So just a bit of clarification.
I I did it for five months,

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you've done it for about 5.
Weeks.

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No.
About 3 months in.

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You know what is it?
No.

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No.
I'm's.

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Easter.
No.

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When was Easter?
No, that was that was one time

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ago, that six weeks ago.
Ohh, I've gone about two months,

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two months, two months with no
sugar.

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But for this all day we were
like, no, let's just enjoy

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ourselves.
So, so obviously we took

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advantage of that because we're
complete addicts to sugar.

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So we completely took advantage
of that and we ate 27 Krispy

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Kreme doughnuts.
Come on.

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Between us and our partners.
Yeah, but still we had, we

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bought three boxes of Krispy
Kreme doughnuts within the four

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days.
They're bloody good.

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Though they were really good.
Bloody no, I'll do it again.

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Yeah, it didn't.
Weird though, because when we

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came to buy that, Hayden didn't
go to the cashier.

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Well, actually there's a lot of
doughnuts here.

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I just bring something down,
that's all.

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That I'm used to them being
expensive.

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I'm not used to my chicken
fajitas and Tesco tortilla

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wraps.
Bring 20 lbs.

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It did go into Tesco and when we
got back and I saw the Krispy

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Kremes there and I had a little
look.

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They are less expensive here
still.

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I know it's Krispy Kreme and I
think they just bump up.

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Yeah, I don't even.
I actually at no point, Jack.

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We're paying for those Donuts.
I didn't want to point, you

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know, paying £9 on table tennis.
Do we get to play table tennis

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long?
We want to make no pounds for

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this table tennis table.
I assume we get to play it until

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we don't want to play it
anymore.

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What's that 16 LB for 12 donors?
Thank you.

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See you later.
Ohh whatever, whatever.

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How are the Rapids?
Ohh, the Rapids.

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Well, wait a minute.
The Rapids.

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The number one draw to Elvedon
Centre Parks, where everyone

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beforehand said which centre
should go to, and they were all

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like to Aldi's amazing.
Oh my God, you need to go there

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because the Rapids are so good.
Yeah, those closed all week.

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Yeah.
Really annoying.

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Really annoying.
Literally closed all week.

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When is it closed?
We're here from Monday to

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Friday, so let's close Monday to
Friday.

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Ohh.
Right.

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So you didn't think to just put
that over, you know, like a

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period of maybe like Thursday to
Sunday?

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Yeah, two people might be.
Paying and they get like this

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start and the end of their
holiday.

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No, none of those do the whole
week that we're there.

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So we got some conversation
though.

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Yeah, yeah, completely
pointless.

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Yeah, we got they were like ohh,
really sorry about that.

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Here's a day pass to come to
pass.

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A day pass is 3 hours away.
Mate, we're not going to come

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for a day.
Are we gonna come for a day?

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We are going to come for a day
for a 45 minute table tennis

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session, which Hayden still
understand.

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It's the table tennis free when
I get here, no?

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Can stay possible then yeah,
that's not going to.

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Pass it literally just to get in
because that would be.

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Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.

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Go, go.
And we're not paying for

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accommodation.
Yeah, and you can come through

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the gate.
Thank.

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You hello before you on the
swimming.

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What's your room number?
We don't have on all.

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We can't then.
Large number.

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That's the other thing it every
time.

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Every time we bought something.
So we're in the shop and you buy

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something and they go lodge
number, please.

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And the first like three or four
times through role play we will.

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Yeah.
But the first, the first three

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or four times we were like, I
just ignored it and I was like,

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you just do it.
You didn't think about it.

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Then I thought about it and we
got to the till, so let's do the

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role play now.
So I've got to the tail.

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I'm just checking.
I'm just telling you.

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Stuff.
I think we're gonna go with the

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whole bit of shop.
Yeah.

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What you need for dinner,
Hayden?

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We need chicken.
OK, well we just walked past the

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stricken.
Why you talking here, discussing

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with me when you're?
I'll play you and Aiden next.

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You carry on, you do your bit to
me.

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Right here we go.
Thank you very.

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Much.
Hi there.

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You're right.
Do you want it back?

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No, we don't need the back.
OK, £400 if you'd like one

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anyway.
Doughnuts there number please.

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And yeah, it's it's 967.
What?

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Sorry, just to click on
swinging.

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Why?
Why do you take the?

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I'm gonna break in a minute.
Sorry, Sorry.

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What was that?
Sorry, just wondering why do you

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take the large number?
Ohh, it's just, it's so we can

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just like check stock, stock
count and all that sort of

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stuff.
Yeah, alright, that's weird.

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Because that's £22.40.
Thank you.

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OK.
Ohh.

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Alright then, I'm not really
satisfied with that answer, but

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I'll just pay and then go off
and we finished.

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We walked off and then had them
like went are we right in

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thinking that the the number of
the lodge that we're staying in

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doesn't affect whether they need
to restock that chicken?

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Tomorrow I know nothing to do
with restocking.

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Absolutely so.
Straight away I was just like,

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it's marketing.
They're gonna sell that

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information because they know
who's staying at Lodge and if

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they've seen it, we've got 27
Krispy Kreme Donuts.

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Then they're obviously going to
be like.

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Well, these guys, well, what did
I say on my Facebook like

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within?
An hour?

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No, it's like, was that was it?
That was that evening you had a

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Krispy Kreme advert and he
hadn't searched.

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He just literally, I actually
genuinely never buy them.

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Yeah, that was like a treat
there.

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So I never seen that.
Before I got here, Yeah, it's

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crazy.
So then we went back the next

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day and asked someone else who
was clearly less you know?

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I'm sorry.
Are we.

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There we go.
Hey, love.

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Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, very good.

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Thank you.
Just go.

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Can I all kind of page number?
Yeah, Yes, 967.

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But just wondering not ask this
to anyone yet at all.

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Just for the first time
wondering why do you take that

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large number?
Oh, it's just for marketing

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reasons.
Thank you.

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And then we went.
So that is literally the first

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one lied to us or didn't know
and just guessed.

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Yeah, but at least guess
something logical that makes

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sense because the stock control,
so we know how much chicken to

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stock into your fridge and your
lodge.

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What?
Matt, my, my team, my highlight,

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my highlight was after months
and months of obviously we, we,

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we go to each other's houses
quite a lot.

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We have dinner and stuff, but
always the babies need to go to

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bed.
So you know, we have to leave at

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certain point.
You know, Rory's bedtime has

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been about 6:00.
So that's usually the cut off on

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me.
We'll go off.

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Or if you're at ours, maybe
you'll stay a bit later cause

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rivers just up still, but then
you have to go back for river.

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And it's one of those things we
didn't really think.

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We thought, well, have babies is
lovely.

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We spent some time together, but
we do lose our evenings where we

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just say, you know, have dinner,
then play some games, just

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chatting, just get to a late
one.

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It didn't happen anymore.
We had the baby.

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Yeah.
So we were like right centre

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parks, banging.
We're in the same place.

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We've got the travel cots for
the kids.

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We put the kids down.
Like both kids were down most

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evenings by 8:00 at the latest.
So we're like, are we having a

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nice few evenings together?
So how did that panned out?

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Nice.
Yeah, really good.

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We took loads of games, actually
filled, struggled filling my car

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up because we had to get so many
games, yeah, to get there.

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And yeah, we didn't.
You didn't use a single.

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One of them because exhausted.
Everyday.

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So we just, we just literally
sat on the sofa and chatted

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absolute rubbish for like 45
minutes until one of us was too

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tired and then when one went to
bed we were like not in.

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I think I would say we were all
asleep probably.

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I don't know you guys, but I was
definitely asleep within 15

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minutes of going in my room and
we weren't in on to our rooms by

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about 10.
Ohh, yeah, yeah.

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I I would say, I would say if
someone knocked on our door at

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half ten.
No, I was like, yeah, yeah.

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Just hilarious.
So we literally have built up so

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much that we get some of our own
time finally.

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And honestly, my, my Lauren came
in.

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I was like, anyone actually want
to play a game?

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I've got to say that you were no
absolutely anything worse.

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No, you were laying on the floor
with your legs up or something.

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We were just good.
It was nice actually.

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Really enjoyed just chilling out
and talking for a bit without

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the kids.
Around, yeah.

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Sleep.
Yeah, it was.

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It was kind of nice and one mad
thing that happened.

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So we did say right, our school
has this extra week off and most

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schools don't.
I'm sure some other schools do.

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The same I think I know one or
two locally out of like 100.

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And sometimes they do it in
different half terms.

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Anyway, I don't even get this
week.

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But we went away and was like,
what's the chances we're going

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to see someone?
We know It was like because

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realistically, if you're a kid
and if your family in our

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school, that is the week to go
away and send the box is a

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classic family.
That's why we do it is cheaper,

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Yeah.
It makes absences less likely.

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Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Just it makes complete sense.

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So we thought, oh, we'll
probably see some kids from our

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school.
Basically we didn't, we heard

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that one there.
But what we did bump into, what

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we did, what we who we did bump
into.

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What we did?
Is one of our teachers.

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We had no idea.
Literally one of our staff

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members, our colleagues, went
away.

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Because we were swimming on the
first day and we changing Rory

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and you.
Everyone knows everyone's

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teacher voice.
Yeah, of course.

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And I just heard this voice from
like must have been like one or

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two across from me.
Yeah, yeah.

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And I was like, that's it.
That's our colleague, Saint

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Laurent's colleague.
And I saw you and I was like,

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he's.
Here I was like, Are you sure?

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Here I I swear to you he's here.
So we spent like honest, like a

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day and a half afterwards of me
like really doubting myself.

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I'm sure, I'm sure it was sure
was him.

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And then he turned up and he was
like hello.

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And I was like, and it must be
really weird for him because he

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walked up to me and said hello
and I was like, you're here.

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Like it was like.
We knew it.

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I knew it.
We followed you here.

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Yeah.
So yeah, that was.

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That was funny.
That was funny yeah.

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But yeah, that was sent box good
trip yeah, pretty solid 8 out of

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10 yeah, would have been would
have been 9 out of 10 with

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Rapids, but I'd do it again.
We we probably.

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Will assuming that rappers are
good, Yeah, one more thing

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before we do a Jingle.
Go on then.

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We got a message this week from
someone talking about how their

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school's doing a mock general
election.

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And at first I'm like, oh,
that's interesting.

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Yeah.
I was like, that's really

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interesting.
How would they, would they, you

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know, vote for Labour and the
Conservatives?

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00:15:05,410 --> 00:15:08,830
No, but all it is, it's it's the
act of voting that they're

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practising.
And what's happening is if

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you're a teacher, you can run to
be Prime Minister of the school.

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So.
So the teachers, SO11 OHH, like

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00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,810
your assistant teachers and
stuff, They, they're all putting

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00:15:18,820 --> 00:15:20,980
their hat in the ring and
someone messaged just tell us

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about it and telling them their
ideas and we had any ideas and

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stuff like that.
And that's such a cool idea to

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get the kids engaged for the
general election.

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00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,240
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And because what they've got to

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do is they've got to write a
manifesto.

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So they've got to come up with
some ideas.

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Yeah.
But they have to be realistic.

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And if they win a lie, yeah.
Realistic, yeah.

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We're not going to raise your
expectations of your work at all

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for the whole duration of my
parliament day one.

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You need to do more.
You need to do more work.

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But yeah, she was saying how it
like, if you win, you actually

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implement your ideas and stuff
like that.

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And she was like, ohh, what?
What's a realistic thing that

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you could put in her manifesto
that the kids would want to vote

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for?
And I was really interesting

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because I imagine some people
might just go crazy and say

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stuff which is completely not,
you know, free pizza for

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everyone every, every day during
maths.

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And it's like, well, the kids
obviously love that, but it

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wouldn't be plausible.
Yeah.

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And it got me thinking, like,
what would actually be a

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realistic thing if you had to
write a manifesto to be Prime

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Minister for school and you had
to get the kids on side so it's

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not just their teacher where you
just think about outcomes and

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literally to win votes from the
children, but something that

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could be implemented in the
classroom.

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I was like, oh.
That's quite narrow actually,

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00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:27,520
Yeah.
What's the budget for my

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campaign?
The budget all, let me just

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00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:31,560
check the school budget one
second.

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00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,470
We've got no money whatsoever,
so.

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00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,710
So just this is important.
Like the real election?

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Yeah, it's very important for my
campaign.

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00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:41,570
Well, I will.
I get to use a big red bus or

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00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:44,720
not?
How many of its privately funded

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and has a massive lie on the
side?

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OK, that's good.
I will be.

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I will be offering the pizza
everyday to the kids. 350

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million slices of pizza every
single.

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Day, single day.
And then when someone questions

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me about it after I've never
happened, never happened.

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00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,120
That didn't happen.
That didn't happen.

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00:17:00,130 --> 00:17:02,320
Did happen.
OK, cool.

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So, I mean, that's kind of cool.
Do you have an idea of what?

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00:17:05,329 --> 00:17:08,020
I didn't know.
She mentioned that she's gonna

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try and implement some golden
time.

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And I was like, why school
doesn't have golden time?

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That's a nice thing, isn't it?
Like a 50 minute?

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00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:15,349
And the only thing I said was
I'm trying to think of how to

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win kids votes over.
Hmm.

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And something that's realistic.
Kids love seeing their teacher

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suffer in like a in like a, you
know, in a horrible way.

458
00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:23,569
But like, you know, silly.
Yeah.

459
00:17:23,579 --> 00:17:25,660
It might be like they get the
chance to be the teacher for 20

460
00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:27,710
minutes a week or something.
You know, there's the roles

461
00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,350
reversed a little bit, something
putting the teacher in a

462
00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:31,320
situation where the kids are.
In charge of the teacher and

463
00:17:31,330 --> 00:17:34,020
everyone laughed until they get
like really like ohh let me.

464
00:17:34,030 --> 00:17:35,980
Out one of the kids ride the bus
through the playground.

465
00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:37,200
That's his teachers, banned for
life.

466
00:17:37,210 --> 00:17:39,160
Yeah, yeah, that's part of it.
And they never have.

467
00:17:39,170 --> 00:17:39,540
Done it.
Yeah.

468
00:17:39,550 --> 00:17:40,390
Never did it.
Never did it.

469
00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,510
Yeah.
When the police come, nothing

470
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,190
happened.
OK, we're gonna ignore.

471
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,360
That cool?
That was a nice idea that we

472
00:17:44,370 --> 00:17:46,620
ruined.
It was pretty cool.

473
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:48,610
That's cool.
And I want, I want to do

474
00:17:48,620 --> 00:17:50,860
something with our school.
I don't know what though.

475
00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:53,180
I'm, I'm, I'm sure like in
assemblies that we talked about,

476
00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:54,400
but it's a big thing, isn't it?
It's.

477
00:17:54,410 --> 00:17:56,530
Something, you know, you get
caught doing that.

478
00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:59,440
They're lefty teachers trying to
push their agenda.

479
00:18:00,790 --> 00:18:06,360
I just want to pick on a on our
Instagram, I've done a few anti

480
00:18:06,370 --> 00:18:12,580
Tory reels just and it's, it's
directly, it is anti Tory OK and

481
00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:14,600
it's not pro Labour and we
talked about as many times it's

482
00:18:14,610 --> 00:18:16,080
not pro greens, not pro
anything.

483
00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:19,120
But it is my personal opinion on
being anti Torii.

484
00:18:19,130 --> 00:18:21,910
I have lived through a Tory
government my whole adult life.

485
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,400
I've seen austerity happen.
I think things have got very

486
00:18:24,410 --> 00:18:26,680
much worse and in in my
professions, especially in

487
00:18:26,690 --> 00:18:29,550
education, I think things are
terrible compared to what they

488
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,750
were 10-15 years ago.
So my personal opinion is that I

489
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,910
hate them and I want them to
never be in power ever again.

490
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,670
So obviously I'm gonna do all I
all I can to convince other

491
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,690
people.
That's my opinion.

492
00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:40,610
Yeah, if you disagree with me,
that's fine.

493
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,080
If you're wrong, but that's
fine.

494
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,790
No, I'm joking.
Genuinely.

495
00:18:43,860 --> 00:18:45,570
If you disagree with me, then
whatever.

496
00:18:45,580 --> 00:18:47,800
But I'm going to still say my
opinion because that's important

497
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,450
on, on those posts.
I have one person posted saying,

498
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,610
well, I hope that this is not
anything to do with your job,

499
00:18:54,620 --> 00:18:56,590
but because actually it's
illegal to say anything

500
00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,170
political in the classroom.
And I just, I did like a

501
00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:03,080
civilised like reply like this
is nothing to do with my job.

502
00:19:03,090 --> 00:19:05,320
It's my first opinion.
But what I really wanted to say

503
00:19:05,330 --> 00:19:08,080
was like, shut up, shut.
Up, yeah.

504
00:19:08,090 --> 00:19:10,240
People random people on
Instagram thinking they could

505
00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:11,770
tell me what's important to do
my job or not.

506
00:19:11,780 --> 00:19:15,340
So I am not I'm not a bloody
anti Tory.

507
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:18,400
I don't walk in and go.
I bloody Tories in charge.

508
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:19,860
I've.
Seen him do that.

509
00:19:19,930 --> 00:19:23,690
Don't, don't, don't.
I'm too busy going and teaching

510
00:19:23,700 --> 00:19:26,590
them how to read so they can
find out for themselves

511
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,300
eventually.
The Tories about this is the

512
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:31,190
labour market so.
I'm just reading a bit of calm

513
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,890
marks.
But no, I don't bring politics

514
00:19:34,900 --> 00:19:36,800
into the classroom.
I don't think politics should be

515
00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:40,120
in the classroom remotely, no.
And they can just work out

516
00:19:40,130 --> 00:19:41,710
eventually themselves.
Cause I'm gonna teach them to

517
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:42,810
read.
Do you know what to do?

518
00:19:42,820 --> 00:19:44,390
Numbers.
You teach them to do maths.

519
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,830
Most people are left anyway when
they're growing up because they

520
00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:48,410
are big, they're part of a
society.

521
00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:51,060
I don't know why actually, but
most people are quite left,

522
00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:52,040
aren't they?
When they grow up.

523
00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:54,430
When they're younger, usually.
I think in most of my

524
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,990
collections left there was a
teacher Tapp survey that I saw

525
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,960
which was from teachers.
What's their political?

526
00:20:02,180 --> 00:20:03,490
Outlook.
So it was a poll but just

527
00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:04,160
teaches.
Yep.

528
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,990
So currently Labour are on like
40 to 45%, Tories are on 2025%.

529
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,100
Something sure and reformer on
like. 15 but in general, not

530
00:20:12,110 --> 00:20:13,370
teachers.
That's in general, yeah, that's

531
00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:14,600
in general.
And the teacher was really

532
00:20:14,610 --> 00:20:16,780
interesting because it was
pretty much exactly what I

533
00:20:16,790 --> 00:20:18,960
thought.
So Labour were running about 60

534
00:20:18,970 --> 00:20:20,420
to 65%.
Hmm.

535
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:22,460
Then it was like the Lib Dems on
10%.

536
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:25,960
Then it was Green on like 5%.
Like it was, it was those three

537
00:20:25,970 --> 00:20:29,740
parties, the Tories and Reform
are both less than 10%.

538
00:20:29,790 --> 00:20:31,930
Yeah, like a good like 5% ish
each.

539
00:20:31,940 --> 00:20:33,060
Yeah.
And I was like, yeah, that

540
00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:35,180
pretty much that, that that is
my experience.

541
00:20:35,230 --> 00:20:37,540
You know, one in 25 Conservative
as a teacher.

542
00:20:37,550 --> 00:20:39,320
That's about right I'd say.
From what I've seen.

543
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:42,150
Get mad if I do find it.
I do find it.

544
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,370
Not bad, I just find it.
I'd love to pick someone's

545
00:20:44,380 --> 00:20:45,470
brains.
They've got different.

546
00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:48,740
As a teacher, but yeah, it's
what especially someone's been

547
00:20:48,750 --> 00:20:50,230
doing it a long time.
I've been teaching for like

548
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,170
10-15 years.
I would be interested to be

549
00:20:52,180 --> 00:20:53,970
like, what different priorities?
Yeah.

550
00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:58,590
What do you like about it?
Honestly, be interested in that

551
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,710
from anyone.
If someone's listening, right,

552
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,290
and is is a conservative voter
and is in education, can you

553
00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,770
genuinely please get in touch
with us and we just wanna talk?

554
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:10,850
Yeah, no, just a nice chat, like
down in your level, bend down,

555
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,170
do some restorative talk, get
them on side.

556
00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:16,410
Yeah, be cool and I'll be
interested.

557
00:21:16,740 --> 00:21:19,600
I was just joking, pretending
that we're gonna no, but I do

558
00:21:19,610 --> 00:21:21,890
actually want to know because it
is genuinely interesting for me.

559
00:21:23,010 --> 00:21:24,510
Why you would do that, I don't
know.

560
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,470
Anyway, that's enough of that.
That's a long intro.

561
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,140
That's enough of that.
Let's play the Jingle.

562
00:21:28,150 --> 00:21:31,520
We'll talk about the fact we're
heading into time, 6A little

563
00:21:31,530 --> 00:21:34,240
Pollard on Instagram, and then
we'll get into pole balancing,

564
00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:35,670
parenting and teaching.
Wow.

565
00:21:37,790 --> 00:21:40,160
OK, Hayden, quick one between
these two options.

566
00:21:40,170 --> 00:21:42,480
Have you just come from the golf
course or are you just come from

567
00:21:42,490 --> 00:21:46,020
the sailing Boat Club?
Actually I've just come from

568
00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:47,150
work.
Can I have your number please?

569
00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:51,400
Hayden's wearing a very middle
class polo right now.

570
00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:53,050
That's that's right, that's
right.

571
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:55,150
Polo is a middle class.
You mean a polo?

572
00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:59,300
I'm wearing a polo.
You look like one of those, you

573
00:21:59,310 --> 00:22:00,470
know?
You look like you're wearing

574
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,660
chinos on on your underneath and
some boat shoes and cardigan

575
00:22:04,670 --> 00:22:06,630
wrapped around your shoulders.
And.

576
00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:10,550
To me, the benefits of the free
market and how capitalism is

577
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,180
best and stuff like that, Yeah,
yeah.

578
00:22:12,250 --> 00:22:13,790
So we can.
Yeah, well, that's got a bit too

579
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,130
far, isn't?
It a little bit little bit too

580
00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:17,810
far but next time they will see
lights.

581
00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:19,060
Again, only one of us plays
golf.

582
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:22,300
Yep, and it's not him.
We're in time 6.

583
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:27,000
Yep, look at me like ohh, yeah,
yeah, we're in term.

584
00:22:27,010 --> 00:22:29,750
Six Time 6 is a really busy one.
What's your favourite thing

585
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,720
about Time Six last summer?
The weather.

586
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,200
Is it genuinely I just love
getting outside with kids.

587
00:22:34,210 --> 00:22:35,900
Good job in England.
I know, yeah.

588
00:22:35,910 --> 00:22:37,480
If we're lucky that is.
Yeah, yeah.

589
00:22:37,490 --> 00:22:39,800
Just getting outside, genuinely,
it's my favourite thing.

590
00:22:39,810 --> 00:22:41,440
I always think of that as like
a.

591
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,560
That's a nice.
Memory where?

592
00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:44,080
Where does it rank in your
terms?

593
00:22:44,150 --> 00:22:47,750
So we ranked holidays before
term 6, the last term of the

594
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,540
year.
Where does it rank?

595
00:22:49,550 --> 00:22:51,290
It's actually quite hard.
I was about to go with one, but

596
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:54,320
then I immediately doubted
myself because actually term 6

597
00:22:54,330 --> 00:22:58,630
towards the end when it gets a
bit or disjointed sometimes and

598
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,510
then like the kids know,
especially in the sex, they know

599
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,330
they're going to another school.
Yeah, nothing on the back like

600
00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:05,510
the last few weeks.
The behaviour always dropped

601
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,360
massively because I like what
you gonna do about it.

602
00:23:07,470 --> 00:23:09,130
I'm I'm never coming back in a.
Few weeks.

603
00:23:09,670 --> 00:23:12,260
I don't know.
Probably is is up there though,

604
00:23:12,270 --> 00:23:15,140
even one or two the Christmas
time.

605
00:23:15,150 --> 00:23:17,240
Yeah, I like that one as well.
Yeah, it's a nice time.

606
00:23:17,250 --> 00:23:18,860
Good.
The two terms with the least

607
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:20,370
actual teaching.
That's interesting.

608
00:23:20,380 --> 00:23:21,500
That really tells me a lot about
how.

609
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:23,270
You take two terms with a bit of
enrichment in them.

610
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,680
Yeah, yeah, people on Instagram
would have an absolute field day

611
00:23:25,690 --> 00:23:27,890
about that.
You don't wanna date holiday

612
00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:29,890
Difficult feature.
Your favourite terms are the

613
00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:31,480
ones where you're not teaching
teaching.

614
00:23:31,870 --> 00:23:34,280
Ohh got 13 wings are not enough
for you?

615
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,270
Bloody lefty liberal woke
teacher.

616
00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:40,130
Wow.
Yeah, you captured that audience

617
00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:41,660
well.
Thank you, dear loved one Time

618
00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:43,510
six though Time 6 is great
sports thing.

619
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,370
Sports day is my favourite day.
Yeah, yeah, And it's what's

620
00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:47,430
really been.
It is frustrating, I'm not gonna

621
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,870
lie, but I'm not gonna do
anything about it.

622
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000
Is that we've missed sports
there since we're part time,

623
00:23:51,010 --> 00:23:52,610
it's always at the end of the.
Week we haven't we.

624
00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:56,110
In fact, we missed most things.
Anything you know, all of the

625
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:56,700
fun.
Stuff.

626
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:58,630
When's non uniformed?
Friday.

627
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,850
Friday.
When's children?

628
00:23:59,860 --> 00:24:02,060
Friday.
OK, no problem.

629
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:03,380
When you gonna do that?
Afternoon.

630
00:24:03,420 --> 00:24:04,090
Friday.
Yeah.

631
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:05,610
Number day.
Friday.

632
00:24:05,620 --> 00:24:06,570
No problem.
OK.

633
00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:08,220
Sports day, right?
Friday.

634
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:09,640
That's cool.
That's interesting.

635
00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:11,870
Summer Fair.
Thursday.

636
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,030
Ohh.
Still off?

637
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,310
Still off?
Yeah.

638
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:17,480
We do get a bank holiday, we
can't complain.

639
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:20,100
But yeah, I love time Six turn 6
is amazing.

640
00:24:20,410 --> 00:24:22,300
Just like you said, get outside
as much as possible.

641
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:25,660
What's your favourite thing?
Then I so my favourite thing,

642
00:24:25,670 --> 00:24:27,280
sports day.
But I think sports day should be

643
00:24:27,290 --> 00:24:29,580
even more of a thing.
I think sports day should be a

644
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:31,400
huge sports week.
No, but maybe.

645
00:24:31,410 --> 00:24:34,890
But I think sports in general
need to be put on so much more

646
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:37,740
of a pedestal in school.
I think it's one of the most

647
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:39,870
important things that actually
gets decimated.

648
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,420
You know, we don't touch certain
stuff.

649
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:43,300
It's like sacred.
We don't touch maths and English

650
00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:45,620
in the morning.
We just don't like maybe maybe

651
00:24:45,630 --> 00:24:47,820
once or twice a year for like a
trip or something.

652
00:24:47,930 --> 00:24:49,900
But it's like, no, no, we're not
gonna do pretty sacred time.

653
00:24:49,910 --> 00:24:51,380
Yeah, we're not gonna do groups
in Mass in English.

654
00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:55,770
That is what is gold Standard
Time science is kind of one

655
00:24:55,780 --> 00:24:58,510
little level below that where
one of these groups get out.

656
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,870
Yeah, groups.
Groups still.

657
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,470
History.
Go and do some reading groups.

658
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,840
Come on.
We talked about it last time.

659
00:25:03,850 --> 00:25:06,390
The wider curriculum is just a
joke and how it's treated like

660
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,600
it's.
Doing art, not doing anything

661
00:25:08,610 --> 00:25:10,060
then in this curriculum.
So off you go.

662
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:12,690
Would you like?
That you've done for 17 times in

663
00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,000
a row and you still don't
understand it as well.

664
00:25:14,010 --> 00:25:15,850
You won't understand it now for
the 18th time, but.

665
00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:17,410
No, I hate maths.
Clearly.

666
00:25:17,420 --> 00:25:19,980
I love art.
Get out of here, you take.

667
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,790
What's that you live for?
Art that we do three times at

668
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,570
all time I speak.
It's time for you not to do art,

669
00:25:26,530 --> 00:25:28,300
honestly.
But it's it's similar with

670
00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:31,340
sports with one saying, I think
sports should be as sacred as

671
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:32,380
maths and English.
Yeah.

672
00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:35,740
And it be like, but some people,
but some children don't like

673
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:37,340
sports.
Some children don't like

674
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:38,760
reading.
We force it down their necks.

675
00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:40,740
Some children don't like maths
and we make them do it every

676
00:25:40,750 --> 00:25:42,310
day.
Is that you were allowed to,

677
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,820
not.
Like sport actually has a a

678
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:45,200
genuine physical benefit to you
as.

679
00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:46,640
Well, yeah, exactly.
That's ohh.

680
00:25:46,650 --> 00:25:49,370
You know, some kids aren't very
good at sport.

681
00:25:49,770 --> 00:25:52,290
Get them moving and you
understand what you're saying

682
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,140
right now because it's the same
as maths in English.

683
00:25:54,150 --> 00:25:55,940
Some kids aren't.
Some kids aren't very good at

684
00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:59,340
being healthy.
Stop that.

685
00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:01,380
Just let them.
Yeah, it's, it's like, and you

686
00:26:01,390 --> 00:26:04,470
know what, even if they stop
halfway through and they've done

687
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,670
more than nothing.
Yeah.

688
00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:07,730
And some of them don't do
anything outside of school.

689
00:26:07,820 --> 00:26:11,190
It's really important.
Like health is, wealth is is.

690
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,170
Wealth is health, as Gove said,
as it wasn't Gove, it's just

691
00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:16,450
just, you know, we can just use
it as punishment.

692
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,450
Been naughty you naughty,
naughty, naughty kid.

693
00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:21,970
Get outside, do 10 laps around
the field.

694
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,460
So then why?
The thing is, I just think

695
00:26:23,470 --> 00:26:24,750
sports, they should be a huge
event.

696
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,710
Yeah, I think, I think you
should go all out.

697
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,990
I think it should be a day.
I don't like how sports they

698
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,550
turned into half day for a lot
of schools.

699
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,990
Like no, no sports day.
Just do some teen parents in.

700
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:36,270
Yeah, get the parents.
Medals, stickers, or whatever.

701
00:26:36,340 --> 00:26:38,450
Have winners, we said this a
million times.

702
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,130
Have winners like it's OK to
have participation things as

703
00:26:42,140 --> 00:26:45,330
well as winners and and don't
panty these people like there

704
00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:47,360
are no winners in schools.
One of the first things I

705
00:26:47,370 --> 00:26:49,410
remember saying in this podcast
that winds me up because the

706
00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:51,360
winners all the time in school.
You only need to be in

707
00:26:51,370 --> 00:26:53,950
celebration assembly to see that
there are winners all the time

708
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,660
in school.
So we can't have winners

709
00:26:55,670 --> 00:26:57,630
anymore.
We're raising a woke generation

710
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,600
of angry people you don't know
how to lose.

711
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,340
It's like, well, I like this
character that's.

712
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,530
God, yes, your alter ego some
Yeah, I've seen a lot of

713
00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:07,270
Instagram comments in the last
week of weirdos who just like

714
00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:09,550
someone said, I've gotta go back
to Instagram thing.

715
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,680
Someone said this is where this
character come from.

716
00:27:11,740 --> 00:27:13,650
Someone posted, I just did a
meme.

717
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,550
It was first of all, I did an
Obama meme where it was just

718
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,650
something Obama said.
It was nothing to do with Obama.

719
00:27:18,690 --> 00:27:19,940
It was just Obama saying this
thing.

720
00:27:19,950 --> 00:27:22,680
I made a meme about it, right.
Yeah, I've started a war

721
00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:25,390
teaching me a teaching me.
Literally it was it was not even

722
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,110
political.
Yes, Obama was just saying, hey,

723
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,530
what the heck are you talking
about?

724
00:27:28,810 --> 00:27:31,810
And my caption I put with it
when someone who's never stepped

725
00:27:31,820 --> 00:27:33,980
foot in the classroom starts
telling you how easy teaching

726
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:36,140
is, that classic thing of no,
you're not done it before, but

727
00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:37,440
like teach other easy don't
know.

728
00:27:37,450 --> 00:27:39,940
Like you have no idea.
Yeah, so some someone commented,

729
00:27:39,950 --> 00:27:43,200
like loads of people commenting
on that just anti Obama stuff,

730
00:27:43,210 --> 00:27:46,480
like the worst president we've
ever seen, the most divisive

731
00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:49,640
president in recent history and
now his mannequin Biden's

732
00:27:49,650 --> 00:27:52,860
cleaning up Banana Republic.
It's like dude, this is just a

733
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:53,700
mean.
What's a mannequin?

734
00:27:53,710 --> 00:27:57,200
Have interest?
I just translate maniac.

735
00:27:57,450 --> 00:27:59,060
I realise the mannequin is also
a word.

736
00:27:59,150 --> 00:28:00,880
Damn it trying.
To catch you.

737
00:28:00,890 --> 00:28:02,510
It's an underfed mannequin I
think.

738
00:28:03,490 --> 00:28:06,030
But anyway someone commented on
it going right.

739
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,890
This is exactly what they said
on this has nothing to do with

740
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:11,300
anything right.
They literally commented going

741
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:16,040
those who can't do teach.
Those who can't teach

742
00:28:16,090 --> 00:28:19,260
indoctrinate children.
What?

743
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,750
That is you, Dylan.
Right.

744
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,670
I really, I didn't reply.
I really wanted to say this is

745
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,240
the person I'm talking about.
You're the person.

746
00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:32,230
I'm talking person never in
education who is like saying

747
00:28:32,290 --> 00:28:34,590
where are you right now?
I actually wanted to reply going

748
00:28:34,670 --> 00:28:37,250
those who can't put a coherent
argument together comment on

749
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:39,090
random people's meme Instagram
page.

750
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,130
Those who comment on who can't
come on random meme Instagram

751
00:28:42,140 --> 00:28:43,990
page are.
Complete nonsense and don't be

752
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,090
me.
I don't buy.

753
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:46,430
I didn't.
I didn't, I didn't.

754
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,910
But the overall point there, I
suppose, was everything I was

755
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,260
saying.
I've forgotten completely what

756
00:28:53,270 --> 00:28:54,730
we're.
Saying about the meme, yeah,

757
00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:56,590
don't go to sports day.
We're talking sports day.

758
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,800
I see.
I I've done with that guy.

759
00:28:57,810 --> 00:28:59,670
You've done, I mean.
You've got completely, yeah.

760
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,060
The office, I think sports is
really important.

761
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:03,930
There will be winners and stuff.
I just think it should be

762
00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:05,590
massively picked up.
I think it's really important.

763
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,540
Do you think there's one thing
and it's very much related to

764
00:29:07,550 --> 00:29:10,520
what you just said, picking the
kids that do the events.

765
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:13,950
Don't say again, what what is
your opinion on that?

766
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,100
Because a lot of people will say
just pick everyone, get everyone

767
00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:20,570
has a go, everyone has a fair
chance and all the races.

768
00:29:20,580 --> 00:29:22,050
Or do you pick the kids that are
the.

769
00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:24,190
Best, right?
So OK, let's flip this because I

770
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,320
have a slightly watered back
opinion of what you're having in

771
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:29,540
a maths lesson.
Do we only let the children who

772
00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:30,770
are really good at maths do
maths?

773
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,060
No, of course everyone does
maths.

774
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,590
So during a sports day, everyone
should do something.

775
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:36,970
Yes.
Correct.

776
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,210
If you've got a part of your
sports day, which I think you

777
00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:42,830
should have, which is
celebrating excellence in sport.

778
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:44,770
Yeah.
And, and like the, the, the best

779
00:29:44,780 --> 00:29:46,230
races in your year group or
something.

780
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:47,390
Hmm.
You should have that.

781
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,920
And you should pick the best
children as well.

782
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:51,550
So the, you know, the the other
end of some people say to you

783
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,090
like only the best people should
be in sports day because only

784
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,710
the best people get to do, you
know, they love art and they get

785
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,990
a chance to do and they get a
chance to do.

786
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,250
Well, OK.
But also everyone does art.

787
00:30:00,260 --> 00:30:02,890
When we do art, everyone does
maths when we do maths, when we

788
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:04,630
do a sports day, everyone should
do sports day.

789
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,380
It should be a celebration of
sport, should be very positive.

790
00:30:07,420 --> 00:30:09,550
We should be pushing as many
children began to do it.

791
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,470
Whether they say, ohh, I'm not
sure they want to do this.

792
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,960
It's like, OK, well let's find a
way you can.

793
00:30:12,970 --> 00:30:15,100
Can you be involved in a team
game maybe rather than an

794
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:16,920
individual one, where you might
feel embarrassed because we

795
00:30:16,930 --> 00:30:19,360
don't want you to feel
embarrassment, But the the best

796
00:30:19,370 --> 00:30:21,320
children should get the chance
to show off how good they are.

797
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,230
Yeah, and also, there's a bit of
planning involved from us, isn't

798
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,310
there?
Like you wouldn't you just avoid

799
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,780
doing a race?
Like, I know this kid.

800
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:29,970
I've taught these kids all year.
I know that this kid here is the

801
00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:31,600
literal fastest kid in our
school.

802
00:30:31,850 --> 00:30:34,350
And I happen to know that these
other five children are probably

803
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,600
the slowest in this year group.
Let's put them all in a race.

804
00:30:36,610 --> 00:30:37,940
It's like, no, let's not do
that.

805
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:40,510
You probably would in the same
way you differentiate in class.

806
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,310
Yeah, exactly.
You probably just make the races

807
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,330
and different games and things
fail, like you just said, so

808
00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:46,930
everyone feels comfortable, has
a chance to to participate and

809
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:49,600
win and not feel embarrassed.
But then, yeah, like you said, I

810
00:30:49,610 --> 00:30:51,970
do think it's really important
to not then some people just go

811
00:30:51,980 --> 00:30:53,420
that way as well.
They just do that.

812
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:55,980
Like, no, it's completely fair.
Everyone's in one heat.

813
00:30:56,060 --> 00:30:57,610
And it's like, no, actually,
Joe, what?

814
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,840
I think the top six fastest
runners probably do want to

815
00:31:00,850 --> 00:31:02,580
actually have a race against
each other to find out who's the

816
00:31:02,590 --> 00:31:03,670
fastest.
Let's do that as well.

817
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,970
Let's give them a chance.
You should.

818
00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:07,720
I think schools should build a
culture of like, records and

819
00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:09,680
stuff.
Yeah Pinata, I think that's

820
00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:12,880
great granny like you know again
and all but some people might

821
00:31:12,890 --> 00:31:15,520
not reach that record correct.
That's how records work and

822
00:31:15,530 --> 00:31:18,300
they'll learn that during their
time in school was like ohh, but

823
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:21,390
it shouldn't have that no no,
it's OK for a child to know that

824
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,840
someone else is better than or
something that's where they're

825
00:31:23,850 --> 00:31:25,560
gonna learn isn't it in school
because they don't have those

826
00:31:25,570 --> 00:31:28,470
opportunities to learn in school
what they're going to become 18

827
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,700
year old weirdos who think the
world revolves around them.

828
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:33,050
But you exactly right.
I need it to be told much

829
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:34,600
earlier that I wasn't the.
Best person in the world?

830
00:31:34,770 --> 00:31:36,970
Instead, I was told repeatedly
that I was the cleverest person

831
00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:39,160
in the.
World it still is that actually.

832
00:31:39,290 --> 00:31:41,840
And in primary school, I'm not
even joking, in primary school,

833
00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:44,690
it was very much like always
very skipped a year group, went

834
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:47,890
up a year group, but was always
told you're so clever, you're so

835
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:50,190
intelligent.
And then I went to secondary

836
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,070
school, into a grammar school
and that that went, that

837
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,510
disappeared.
And that was really weird like

838
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,620
that.
I think earlier should have been

839
00:31:57,630 --> 00:32:00,230
instilled in me that you can,
you can be good, but you need to

840
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,290
learn, you know, there are
people going to be better than

841
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:04,110
you always.
And that was a really weird

842
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,230
dynamic for me stepping into
secondary school because I was

843
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,630
the only one from my school who
went to secondary school and all

844
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,870
of a sudden I was just another
fish.

845
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,120
The other kids went home.
My second just go, Yeah.

846
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:18,150
I was the only kid in my class
to go to secondary school.

847
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,430
Were you?
No to that, yeah.

848
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,380
But yeah, I just.
I think sports, they should be

849
00:32:23,390 --> 00:32:25,310
huge thing.
That's my point now nice cool

850
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,510
talk about your.
Pole quick poll.

851
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,070
We will get into parenting I
promise and had this poll on

852
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,370
Instagram and I want to tell you
2 facts about it because it blew

853
00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:35,680
my mind.
One of them did anyway.

854
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,990
And so simple politics.
Really cool Instagram page

855
00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:42,460
making politics accessible for
loads of people really coming

856
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:43,680
into their own in the general
election.

857
00:32:43,690 --> 00:32:45,730
A lot of people who wouldn't be
at all really interested or

858
00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:47,470
bothered at least get to see
him.

859
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,470
Like really digestible form.
Run by guy called Tatton

860
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,930
Spiller.
He used to come into schools.

861
00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:52,970
I was gonna say I recognise
that.

862
00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:53,950
Name.
Yeah, he came in and did an

863
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,310
assembly.
I think he still goes into

864
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,720
schools now and again, just
about making politics accessible

865
00:32:57,730 --> 00:32:59,060
for people, is really passionate
about that.

866
00:32:59,070 --> 00:33:00,510
Yeah, I think what he does is
amazing.

867
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:05,990
So they posted a news like every
day they post like a carousel of

868
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,040
different news.
It's just a gift to people who

869
00:33:08,050 --> 00:33:09,190
don't want to read the papers
and stuff.

870
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,420
And the first one was a poll
about how teachers are using

871
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:17,050
their own money to help children
and support students and which

872
00:33:17,060 --> 00:33:19,670
we all know happens a lot.
So I did my own one, I shared

873
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,390
that and I did a poll and it was
simply have you used your own

874
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,530
money to support your pupils?
And the three options were yes,

875
00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:31,210
all the time, rarely or never.
Sure.

876
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,290
So first interesting thing.
No one who voted on that poll.

877
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:36,790
Hundreds of teachers on our
Instagram.

878
00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:38,970
No, no one voted.
Never.

879
00:33:39,020 --> 00:33:41,570
Wow.
So everyone who voted, maybe

880
00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:44,470
some people didn't vote.
I don't know who who were never.

881
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,510
But no one who voted, but never.
So everyone spent some money.

882
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:49,030
I can say I've spent some of my
money.

883
00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:51,710
I'm sure you spent some money.
It's just it's it's completely

884
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,660
normal, as shown by that poll.
Yeah, I think 20% said rarely

885
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:59,010
and 80% said yeah, all the time.
Wow.

886
00:33:59,020 --> 00:34:01,140
And, and and that shocked me
because I didn't know it was

887
00:34:01,150 --> 00:34:04,160
that high.
No, but I dug deeper and I think

888
00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:07,940
I found out why it shocked me.
OK, so I went in a little bit

889
00:34:07,950 --> 00:34:12,929
deeper in.
OK, I would say 95% of the

890
00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:16,449
people who clicked.
Yeah, always, I always spend my

891
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:20,710
money with females.
Yeah, 95% of the people who

892
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,469
clicked rarely were males.
No way.

893
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,170
So the reason why there's such a
discrepancy is there's far fewer

894
00:34:27,179 --> 00:34:28,739
males and.
Teaching men don't care.

895
00:34:28,750 --> 00:34:33,500
But I said I just skipped it.
That's what I'm trying to say.

896
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:35,739
You saying that men don't care,
women do.

897
00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:37,820
No, OK, listen, I'm not going to
say anything.

898
00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:38,820
I want you to commentate on
this.

899
00:34:38,830 --> 00:34:40,710
I'm going to stay completely
neutral other than give you the

900
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,690
facts, which is clearly women
teachers spend more on extra

901
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:48,340
stuff and and ploughing in.
Not all of them, obviously,

902
00:34:48,350 --> 00:34:50,199
because some men voted all the
time.

903
00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:52,190
Some women voted rarely.
Yeah, but they're general.

904
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,550
But it wasn't much.
They're very clearly was a huge

905
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,370
skew towards men rarely do it,
women do it all the time.

906
00:34:57,380 --> 00:34:58,840
What's your thought on?
That I don't really know.

907
00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:00,470
I think it plays into
stereotypes, isn't it?

908
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,300
That's all it does.
Like I think we could go really

909
00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:05,640
deep with this I suppose.
But at what point the stereotype

910
00:35:05,650 --> 00:35:07,860
should become a fact?
Because that's just a fact now.

911
00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:09,930
Well, that's what stereotypes.
But yeah, well, no.

912
00:35:09,940 --> 00:35:11,890
Cause stereotypes like
exaggerated and they're not

913
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:13,420
always good to go off because it
doesn't mean.

914
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:15,740
Yeah.
So for example, if we said

915
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:19,400
beforehand most women spend more
money than men on the class,

916
00:35:19,410 --> 00:35:21,630
Someone Like You shouldn't,
shouldn't fall into those

917
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,660
stereotypes.
So.

918
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:25,740
But now we've got this data that
is just a fact.

919
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:27,840
It's like if you said it now.
So I said, oh, bloody

920
00:35:27,850 --> 00:35:30,600
stereotypes.
But no, no, here this actually

921
00:35:30,610 --> 00:35:31,760
is.
True, that's the blurred lines.

922
00:35:31,770 --> 00:35:33,390
Sometimes stereotypes.
Not just true.

923
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,960
That's, well, usually the
stereotype.

924
00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:37,110
Rooted in truth, aren't they?
Yeah, yeah, like you said, they

925
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,490
get exaggerated and then they
get manipulated and played on

926
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:40,660
and people use it for negative
things.

927
00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:44,260
But the actual, the root of a
stereotype is usually because

928
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:45,980
there is a an actual underlying
fact.

929
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:48,770
Yeah, to show something and.
How you interpret that is up to.

930
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:49,850
You.
Is that from your from your

931
00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:51,200
experience though, is that shock
you or does?

932
00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:53,540
That it doesn't shock me at all,
to be honest with you.

933
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:56,740
I think it's cool that you found
that.

934
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:58,010
But I'm, I wouldn't say I'm
shocked.

935
00:35:58,020 --> 00:35:59,400
I'd be shocked if it was other
way around.

936
00:35:59,410 --> 00:36:02,040
I'd be shocked if it was like,
yeah, men were saying all the

937
00:36:02,050 --> 00:36:03,480
time they spend the money and
women rarely.

938
00:36:03,490 --> 00:36:06,700
I'd be like, ohh, that doesn't
fit with my stereotypes, my view

939
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:08,980
of, you know, teachers.
Do you think that that links

940
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:14,390
into like men are more likely to
push themselves like find

941
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,080
themselves further up on the
career ladder?

942
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:18,880
In terms of what I mean, there
is, you know, it's just this is

943
00:36:18,890 --> 00:36:20,060
my job.
We're going to do my job.

944
00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:21,840
If it's not working, I'll move
somewhere else.

945
00:36:21,850 --> 00:36:24,100
I'll leave the profession or
I'll just go into a role outside

946
00:36:24,110 --> 00:36:24,490
the.
Classroom.

947
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:26,280
I think it's linked to the
gender stereotypes than

948
00:36:26,290 --> 00:36:27,910
education, full stop.
Right.

949
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,750
I think, I think there are lots
of gender stereotypes in

950
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,210
education and they're all just
kind of interwoven a bit between

951
00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:34,990
male and female, for a start.
You know, it's still a

952
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,530
profession dominated by women.
And it's like, OK, well, why is

953
00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:40,220
that?
And I think if you look into the

954
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:43,210
why is that, you'll probably
find the same reason, the same

955
00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:45,610
answer for the for why your poll
came out like that as well.

956
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,650
It's like, well, yeah.
Because stereotypically women

957
00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:50,950
are more caring, more motherly,
all of that kind of stuff.

958
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,550
Not everyone obviously
stereotypes.

959
00:36:52,980 --> 00:36:56,610
And I think with that comes the
answer to your one is that yeah,

960
00:36:56,620 --> 00:36:58,260
why is it women that are
spending more money than in the

961
00:36:58,270 --> 00:37:00,340
class and not men?
It's OHH that's the same answer.

962
00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:01,540
Can I stay in the classroom
longer?

963
00:37:01,550 --> 00:37:02,880
As well.
Yeah, yeah, I guess so.

964
00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:05,800
In general, I I feel like every
time we say something here,

965
00:37:05,810 --> 00:37:08,600
yeah, we're not saying everyone.
And then we, you know, we, we

966
00:37:08,610 --> 00:37:10,140
spoke.
I remember what episode it was.

967
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:11,940
It was ages ago.
We've done a lot now.

968
00:37:11,950 --> 00:37:14,650
Ages and ages ago last year
sometime we, I can't remember

969
00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:19,100
why, but we mentioned the fact
that the percentage of men in

970
00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:22,230
teaching isn't representative
the higher up you go in terms of

971
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,550
like the hierarchy of the
school.

972
00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:25,320
So it was some, I'm just making
up numbers now.

973
00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:28,690
Let's say it was like 10% of
teachers are our men, whereas

974
00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:31,070
20% of SLT and head teachers
were men.

975
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,680
So it was like, OK, so there's
disproportionate amount of men

976
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,150
rising up the ranks.
Why is that?

977
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,450
And you play again into the
stereotypes of, OK, the men

978
00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:40,690
aren't as caring and, and maybe
they as as the women, they don't

979
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:42,400
want to stay in the classroom.
They want to rise up the career

980
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:44,450
ladder and make more money.
And if they want to make more

981
00:37:44,460 --> 00:37:46,700
money, probably less likely to
spend all of their money on the

982
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:47,730
class.
I don't know.

983
00:37:47,740 --> 00:37:49,890
I just think you could probably
go down a massive rabbit hole.

984
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:51,800
Yeah, I was just trying to get
you to say something got

985
00:37:51,810 --> 00:37:53,660
cancelled, so keep going mate.
Yeah.

986
00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:55,720
Ohh, there.
No, I think it's interesting.

987
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:57,450
I'd love to hear because
probably people do like whole

988
00:37:57,460 --> 00:37:58,380
studies on this.
Yeah.

989
00:37:58,390 --> 00:38:00,580
So it'd be really cool to find.
Out and again, like what?

990
00:38:00,590 --> 00:38:02,480
Well, just wanna reiterate is
that's just a fact.

991
00:38:02,490 --> 00:38:04,020
That is just what happened in
this poll.

992
00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:06,320
Yeah, most of them, many said,
really most of the women said

993
00:38:06,330 --> 00:38:07,690
all the time.
And I just found it really

994
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:09,750
interesting.
Let's play the Jingle one more

995
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,600
time and we'll have a nice short
chat about balancing parenting

996
00:38:12,610 --> 00:38:15,270
and teaching and just, I guess,
reflecting on the fact we've

997
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,280
been parents now this school
year, basically.

998
00:38:17,290 --> 00:38:19,110
OK, how it's affected things.
Wow.

999
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,490
Hmm.
Hello everyone, welcome to

1000
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:23,710
another episode of Teaching
Repeat.

1001
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:25,600
My name is Dylan.
Dylan, which is the Jingle Mate.

1002
00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:29,440
Sorry, we bulk.
Don't tell them we record 10 at

1003
00:38:29,450 --> 00:38:31,180
a time.
And we just predict the future.

1004
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:33,410
Imagine.
Imagine we get to the end of

1005
00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:35,220
recording one episode and we're
generally quite knackered.

1006
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:37,590
Literally, I don't know why.
Because we'd sit and talk like

1007
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,780
this.
Yeah, not recording.

1008
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:41,450
I made you tie me out anyway.
Just in general being around.

1009
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,440
So we've been parents now for
pretty much this school year.

1010
00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:47,440
Both our children were born at
the start of the school year.

1011
00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:50,850
I felt like it was a weird few
weeks starting back knowing that

1012
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,620
my partner is about to give
birth, I was about to become a

1013
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:54,420
father and I just moved house as
well.

1014
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,280
That was a really weird time
one.

1015
00:38:56,690 --> 00:38:58,880
But since then, obviously we've
we've had our children.

1016
00:38:58,950 --> 00:39:01,970
River came along in November.
Yeah, I've got that.

1017
00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:02,900
Yeah.
November.

1018
00:39:02,910 --> 00:39:05,020
November the 19th.
Very good, very good.

1019
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:07,050
Yeah, because I know because
it's two weeks after Rory Anna

1020
00:39:07,060 --> 00:39:08,560
month.
Ah yeah, nice.

1021
00:39:09,310 --> 00:39:13,520
So anyway, I guess this part of
the episode is going to be all

1022
00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:16,010
about balancing being a teacher
and being a parent because we're

1023
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,150
new to this.
So we're going to reflect on how

1024
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,300
we've managed to do it for the
first few months and then

1025
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:22,580
probably, yeah.
And then probably project a bit

1026
00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:25,240
on how we plan to do it in the
following years because, you

1027
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:28,260
know, it's weird because we have
this child now for at least 17

1028
00:39:28,270 --> 00:39:30,480
1/2 more years.
So yeah, that's quite a long

1029
00:39:30,490 --> 00:39:32,510
time, isn't it?
And depending on who wins the

1030
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,180
election, I don't think it does
depend.

1031
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:35,700
I think it doesn't matter who
wins.

1032
00:39:35,710 --> 00:39:37,360
No, no, it might be 50.
Years.

1033
00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:40,860
I I suppose you're listening to
this as well.

1034
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:42,850
You might also be in the boat of
being a kid or.

1035
00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:44,250
Being a kid.
Please.

1036
00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:45,810
No, I hope not.
Yeah, you might be a bit of

1037
00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:48,990
being a parent or knowing you're
gonna be a parent in the future.

1038
00:39:49,150 --> 00:39:51,400
Yeah, at some point you plan on
becoming a parent and you

1039
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:53,850
probably thinking how on earth
can balance all thinking?

1040
00:39:53,860 --> 00:39:56,990
Hell no.
And actually, let's hear.

1041
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,190
From doing it right now.
This might confirm.

1042
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,390
Let's put on a different podcast
because it's nothing to do with

1043
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,180
me.
So I guess my first point to

1044
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:07,620
you, Hayden, is how much do you
regret it?

1045
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,190
Ohh fights.
Not at all.

1046
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,410
Dylan.
My child is precious.

1047
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,290
My lip was quivering.
Keep it together.

1048
00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:20,390
No, I jokes aside, it is the
best thing I've ever.

1049
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,250
Done well, just funny enough
that you said that obviously

1050
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:24,570
didn't plan this, but I was I
watched the Tick Tock the other

1051
00:40:24,580 --> 00:40:27,810
day and it was a woman just
talking to camera saying I

1052
00:40:27,820 --> 00:40:29,270
haven't have children in their
30s.

1053
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,190
Just classic to the point where
she's like, oh, I don't know

1054
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,510
what to do.
I don't know if I want children

1055
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,860
or not.
And she said, I wanna, I want

1056
00:40:35,870 --> 00:40:39,380
people to comment down below if
you had kids and if you regret

1057
00:40:39,390 --> 00:40:41,740
it was like, because everyone
that I had no have kids always

1058
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:42,910
say you won't regret it.
Regret it.

1059
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,480
But I'm like, but there is a
part of me that's worried that I

1060
00:40:45,490 --> 00:40:46,540
just will though.
Yeah.

1061
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:48,730
So does that exist?
And I look at the comments

1062
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:49,740
section.
It was really, really

1063
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:52,260
interesting because there was a
huge variety of people.

1064
00:40:52,270 --> 00:40:53,460
Yeah.
And there was some was one of

1065
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:55,840
the top comment on it was
brutal.

1066
00:40:56,270 --> 00:40:58,090
But she even said in the
comment, I'm being brutally

1067
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,440
honest here.
She said I love my kids, but I

1068
00:41:00,450 --> 00:41:04,060
absolutely regret it.
She was like, I would I really,

1069
00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:07,840
really miss my life and time and
everything before having kids.

1070
00:41:07,850 --> 00:41:11,340
Even though I, I love my kids, I
do regret having yeah.

1071
00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:12,730
And I was like, wow, that's
interesting.

1072
00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:15,780
Then the next comment below, it
was like, you'll never regret

1073
00:41:15,790 --> 00:41:17,040
it.
It's given my life purpose.

1074
00:41:17,050 --> 00:41:19,340
It's a love that I've never
experienced before.

1075
00:41:19,450 --> 00:41:21,760
And you know, I love my life
now.

1076
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:24,580
Yes, it's more exhausting and
knackered and I miss elements of

1077
00:41:24,590 --> 00:41:27,180
my life before, but I would
never, ever go back.

1078
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,220
And I was like, well, there's
the two complete opposites

1079
00:41:29,230 --> 00:41:30,840
there.
When someone asks you for your

1080
00:41:30,850 --> 00:41:32,610
opinion, do you always give
other peoples instead of your

1081
00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:33,940
own or is that just what you
doing?

1082
00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:39,390
Sorry.
How long is this going to take?

1083
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,600
Finish, finish.
I want to make him laugh and

1084
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:48,650
tell my large number.
I'm stuck, I know.

1085
00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:51,150
I wonder how many types of
comedy is going to go through

1086
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,940
before he gives me that.
I'll give you some more.

1087
00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:58,110
No, no, no, don't.
For me personally is generally

1088
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,560
the best I've ever done because
honestly, when you know, in, in

1089
00:42:01,570 --> 00:42:04,610
the mornings when he wakes up,
it's really annoying me wakes up

1090
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:06,250
at 5:00.
Like I completely get what these

1091
00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:08,230
people are saying.
It's really, I'd never be up for

1092
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,610
that time ever.
And I'm knackered and I'm like,

1093
00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:13,900
I'm actually annoyed sometimes.
And I go, oh God, could you just

1094
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:17,520
not have got up at 5 for the
bloody 57th day in a row?

1095
00:42:17,530 --> 00:42:20,400
Like, but then you go over to
him and he's got his head up and

1096
00:42:20,410 --> 00:42:24,400
he's smiling and I'm like, I
love you so much.

1097
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:26,660
And we go, we go and play for
two hours and it's fine.

1098
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:29,150
Like for me personally is
genuinely the best thing we've

1099
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,700
done.
And I, I wish.

1100
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:33,540
I wish I'd done it sooner, I
think.

1101
00:42:33,850 --> 00:42:36,640
So regret is not the right word.
But what's the biggest thing

1102
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:39,000
then, that you miss real life?
What's the biggest impact to

1103
00:42:39,010 --> 00:42:40,320
you?
Yeah, it's something that you

1104
00:42:40,330 --> 00:42:41,680
had previously and now you don't
have.

1105
00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:48,250
It I was someone who absolutely
never really planned anything,

1106
00:42:48,450 --> 00:42:50,280
so I went with the flow kind of
thing.

1107
00:42:50,330 --> 00:42:52,750
Well, what I mean is like, I
wouldn't.

1108
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:54,490
It was like Wednesday.
We're talking about your

1109
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:56,540
lessons.
Just to clarify my personal

1110
00:42:56,550 --> 00:43:00,020
life, if it was like Wednesday
and and someone said to me what

1111
00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:02,460
you doing Friday night or what
you doing Saturday and I I would

1112
00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:04,520
honestly have to reply.
I don't know, like, I don't

1113
00:43:04,530 --> 00:43:05,060
know.
Yeah.

1114
00:43:05,070 --> 00:43:06,940
Because either someone else has
planned something that I'm going

1115
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:09,730
along with, or I'll wait until
Friday and then sort something

1116
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:10,840
out.
And then Saturday, I'll sort

1117
00:43:10,850 --> 00:43:13,760
something out and, and it's just
like that, that freedom to kind

1118
00:43:13,770 --> 00:43:18,090
of do whatever I want.
I would say, though, that by the

1119
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:21,440
time Rory came around, I might
look back now and feel like I

1120
00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:24,660
missed that.
But I was 30 when Rory came.

1121
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:28,980
I had my entire 20s of doing
whatever I wanted whenever I

1122
00:43:28,990 --> 00:43:30,580
wanted.
If I wanted to play golf, I

1123
00:43:30,590 --> 00:43:32,760
played golf.
And I'd have friends who had

1124
00:43:32,770 --> 00:43:35,680
kids like two or three, four
years earlier who'd started to

1125
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:38,560
go down the road of like, Oh,
no, I can't just come today.

1126
00:43:38,570 --> 00:43:42,750
Do you miss having friends?
But they, they, they like I

1127
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,190
can't, I can't come today
because I've got to plan more

1128
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,230
than two days in advance because
I've got a child now and I

1129
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:50,900
understand that more than ever.
But I think I got to the point

1130
00:43:50,910 --> 00:43:52,760
where the grass always be
greener.

1131
00:43:52,770 --> 00:43:55,170
And I'll look back now, but
like, I wish I had my time, but

1132
00:43:55,180 --> 00:43:57,670
I got to the point where I was
just like, I do want to get that

1133
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,510
now.
Yeah.

1134
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,930
I was ready to make.
I was ready to sacrifice my own

1135
00:44:01,940 --> 00:44:02,440
thing.
Yeah.

1136
00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:03,960
And there are lots of people who
aren't ready to do that.

1137
00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:06,490
And I think the one thing I want
to get across right now, and I'm

1138
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,380
saying it's the best thing ever.
I'm not that person who's gonna

1139
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:10,830
tell you it's the best thing for
you ever.

1140
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,610
I think that's it.
That annoys me so much.

1141
00:44:12,620 --> 00:44:14,150
Yeah.
People saying it's the best.

1142
00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:17,030
You have to do this.
It's like, no, you don't at all.

1143
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:20,070
If your favourite thing ever is
going away on holiday whenever

1144
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,160
you want and spending time with
your partner as much as you want

1145
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:24,450
and having you know if you've
made that choice not to have

1146
00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:26,970
kids, crack.
And if you're happy with it as

1147
00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:29,370
well, Yeah, do that then if
you're satisfied with it and.

1148
00:44:29,620 --> 00:44:31,400
And your gut feeling is I don't
want, I don't want kids.

1149
00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:33,060
You don't have to.
You really at all.

1150
00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:34,720
I mean, that pressure is gone a
lot.

1151
00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:37,600
I reckon generations ago that
there was way more pressure.

1152
00:44:37,650 --> 00:44:39,640
Yeah, you've got to, you've got
to have kids and the start of

1153
00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:40,750
family.
Whereas now it's more like,

1154
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,050
well, actually no, you don't
have to if you don't want.

1155
00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:44,140
To well, do you think that's
partly to do with like the

1156
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:45,800
environment as well that we're
bringing kids into?

1157
00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:48,960
Because I'd say that at these
days, it used to be even like

1158
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:51,050
even when we were in school,
remember there was a huge thing

1159
00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:52,620
about like teen pregnancies and
stuff.

1160
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:55,180
It was massive.
It was like, don't do, don't do

1161
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:56,120
this.
You need to have educate.

1162
00:44:56,130 --> 00:44:57,920
This is a huge problem in
England.

1163
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,810
And now we're at the point where
it's like, or have a kid, don't

1164
00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:02,250
get to 30 and not have a kid,
please.

1165
00:45:02,340 --> 00:45:05,120
Because there's so many people
of our generation born in like

1166
00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:08,920
the the late 80s, early 90s, who
are now, you know, passed into

1167
00:45:08,930 --> 00:45:11,990
their 30s, mid 30s, who still
haven't had children.

1168
00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:15,320
And people in their 20s who are
thinking, well, I can't, I've

1169
00:45:15,330 --> 00:45:17,230
not even got a house yet.
Of course I can't afford to

1170
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:18,290
bring a child into.
Yeah.

1171
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:20,870
Do you think that's another
reason why it's shifted and

1172
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,750
become more?
Acceptable.

1173
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,070
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
The environment and the economy

1174
00:45:26,180 --> 00:45:27,530
is a huge factor.
I know.

1175
00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:31,320
I actually know lots of people
who in one of two boats, they're

1176
00:45:31,330 --> 00:45:35,170
either thinking I might want
kids, but I can't, I can't even

1177
00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:37,750
afford to live by my for myself
at the moment.

1178
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,020
So how could I possibly afford a
kid?

1179
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:41,820
So not having a kick as I can't
afford it.

1180
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,690
And there's people just just
just don't want kids at all.

1181
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,870
And they're thinking, I I like
my lifestyle and it's and I'm

1182
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,080
earning barely enough.
So I just want, you know, I mean

1183
00:45:50,090 --> 00:45:52,200
they're just actively being
like, Nope, don't want kids then

1184
00:45:52,210 --> 00:45:54,800
haven't even got a house yet.
I'm going to rent and I don't

1185
00:45:54,810 --> 00:45:56,500
want to have a kid if I'm not in
a house.

1186
00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:59,980
And they have that order almost
of like, yeah, no, I have to

1187
00:45:59,990 --> 00:46:02,310
some people been very strict
with like, I'm married, I'm

1188
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,350
gonna get a house and then we
have kids and they still very

1189
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,400
much live by that.
Yeah, that that order.

1190
00:46:06,410 --> 00:46:09,180
And it's like, yeah, but you
know, your mid 30s now and you

1191
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:11,050
haven't done the 1st 2:00 and
it's not our choice.

1192
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:12,810
It's because they're so
unbelievably expensive.

1193
00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:15,350
Yeah, yeah.
So I just think people are in

1194
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,250
tough situations.
Like what?

1195
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:20,850
Like what was it for you?
I want to dive deep into what

1196
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,680
made you want to have kids?
I or did you want to have?

1197
00:46:23,690 --> 00:46:24,780
I don't know.
I don't actually know your

1198
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:26,790
situation.
Like was it just a bit of ohh,

1199
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,010
this is kind of happening or
conscious decision?

1200
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,640
How how long did you want kids
and that kind of those?

1201
00:46:32,650 --> 00:46:35,340
Kind of questions Is that
classic kid?

1202
00:46:35,350 --> 00:46:38,020
I was like, I wanted kids my
whole childhood.

1203
00:46:38,090 --> 00:46:39,450
Yeah.
Like she's quite abnormal for

1204
00:46:39,460 --> 00:46:40,840
men.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1205
00:46:40,850 --> 00:46:43,400
I think because again, I don't
have said in the podcast, but I

1206
00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:48,180
was, if I think about my
cousins, hmm, I'm the oldest of

1207
00:46:48,190 --> 00:46:54,780
my cousins and up until I was
probably 141516, there was

1208
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:56,590
always a baby cousin in the
family.

1209
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,550
So always, always growing up,
there was a baby in, in the

1210
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,740
family somehow that I was
related to that I'd hang out

1211
00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:04,520
with and, and you know, my mum
would be with her sister who's

1212
00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:06,710
who had babies.
They're like 20 now, which is

1213
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,000
crazy.
Ohh, older than 20 cause I'm 30,

1214
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,650
but it's always been a baby
basically.

1215
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,350
Yeah.
And I always loved spending time

1216
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,270
playing with them.
I was surrounded by them and.

1217
00:47:14,380 --> 00:47:17,130
I hated it.
Just yeah, I didn't ask you, but

1218
00:47:17,170 --> 00:47:21,430
I.
Wow, the end of the.

1219
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,790
Episode.
I love it so much that I thought

1220
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,470
I'm going to start a podcast
with a man who looks like a

1221
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,960
baby.
Yeah.

1222
00:47:26,970 --> 00:47:29,030
Thank you, young face.
I'll take that.

1223
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,930
No, I've always wanted to and
through my 20s, I think the

1224
00:47:32,940 --> 00:47:38,680
first half of my 20s I thought
not yet, obviously, umm, then

1225
00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:41,890
then I got to like 2526 and I
was like, I I probably would,

1226
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,350
but I can wait.
Yeah, I had that, that classic

1227
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,210
thing of what you're
experiencing now, which is, I

1228
00:47:46,220 --> 00:47:48,600
know I want kids, but I'm not
really bothered by it.

1229
00:47:48,610 --> 00:47:51,110
Too much as long as I've known
you that's I'd say that's the

1230
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,230
state I've.
Known.

1231
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:54,450
Yeah.
Even like, yeah, mid 20s, maybe

1232
00:47:54,460 --> 00:47:55,990
a little bit younger.
I remember you being like, yeah,

1233
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,110
I'd love kids.
I'd have kids now.

1234
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,230
Yeah, I was.
Always like Jesus.

1235
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:01,570
So I I would have a kid now if,
if, if, if like my partner

1236
00:48:01,580 --> 00:48:05,870
falling pregnant, I'd have been
like, OK, let's do it like 2526.

1237
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,570
I absolutely would absolutely
fine with that.

1238
00:48:07,580 --> 00:48:10,150
I would have wanted a bit more
time to just play golf and I

1239
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,390
wanted the stuff like.
You've been cool.

1240
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,680
With it, I've been absolutely
cool with it.

1241
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:14,290
Yeah.
And I've been, you know, I've

1242
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:19,030
embraced it and I would love it.
I think then from like my 25 to

1243
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,370
30, I kind of wanted to get more
and it was more like, I do want

1244
00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:25,370
this though.
And there were certain reasons

1245
00:48:25,380 --> 00:48:28,290
why we, we didn't quite do it
that time or we pushed it on.

1246
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,070
But then when we decided, right,
we're actually going to properly

1247
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,070
do this now we're going to
actually properly try.

1248
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,190
We're really fortunate it only
took us like 2-3, four months,

1249
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,380
which is we understand how lucky
we are at that point because,

1250
00:48:39,390 --> 00:48:42,110
you know, if it, like some
people takes years, that would

1251
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,790
have knocked mean to 3233.
Yeah.

1252
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,460
Yeah.
Like so.

1253
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:45,840
So I, I do understand how lucky
I am.

1254
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:48,780
And Rory came two months after
my 30th birthday.

1255
00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:51,980
And I actually think in the
modern day, when I was younger,

1256
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:54,960
you said that to me.
I've been gutted, Gutted.

1257
00:48:54,970 --> 00:48:57,300
If you told me I had my first
kid at 30, I'd have been

1258
00:48:57,370 --> 00:48:58,880
devastated.
Like, what went wrong?

1259
00:48:59,230 --> 00:49:00,580
Like what on earth?
What happened?

1260
00:49:00,590 --> 00:49:02,520
Why?
But actually, funnily enough, I

1261
00:49:02,530 --> 00:49:05,230
think in this day and age as
we've grown up, that's part of

1262
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:07,470
the course.
And not anything, it's probably

1263
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,830
like a couple of years.
Yeah, yeah.

1264
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,730
So so the the only thing I think
now to myself is ohh, I do want

1265
00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:15,970
like 3.
So I need to like yeah, I can't

1266
00:49:15,980 --> 00:49:17,490
be fat.
I don't be 38.

1267
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,670
Yeah, I need, you know what
you're gonna say.

1268
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,420
Yeah.
And it might happen.

1269
00:49:20,430 --> 00:49:22,340
Yeah, that's fine.
That'd be absolutely the same as

1270
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:23,940
you. 20, think.
Ohh, no, 30.

1271
00:49:23,950 --> 00:49:25,930
So I can't imagine being a
situation where I don't want

1272
00:49:25,940 --> 00:49:28,310
another kid.
Yeah, which I know I need young.

1273
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,930
I know a lot of older parents
who've had kids in their 40s and

1274
00:49:30,940 --> 00:49:33,760
it's like, you know what, When
their kids are like 18 and

1275
00:49:33,770 --> 00:49:36,800
they're in their 60s or near
60s, whatever they always like,

1276
00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:38,270
they keep some youthful young,
you know?

1277
00:49:38,530 --> 00:49:40,050
But you you weren't that
bothered by having.

1278
00:49:40,060 --> 00:49:41,760
Kids, No, not at all.
I was very different to you.

1279
00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:44,060
We were this is probably one
thing that we're very different

1280
00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:46,120
on.
I think if I, if I had a kid at

1281
00:49:46,130 --> 00:49:49,230
like 25, I would have had a
breakdown, but genuinely,

1282
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:52,030
because I would absolutely did
not want kids like all the way

1283
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,770
through my 20s.
It wasn't until I didn't, I

1284
00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:56,430
didn't even I know this is going
to sound really awful.

1285
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,840
I'm just going to be brutally
honest.

1286
00:49:57,930 --> 00:50:00,960
I didn't really like like
toddler kids.

1287
00:50:00,970 --> 00:50:03,130
Like even in teaching, I was
like, I stuck to key stage two.

1288
00:50:03,140 --> 00:50:04,080
I was like, I don't want to
teach.

1289
00:50:04,090 --> 00:50:05,760
Too young, bro.
Oh, that's very normal.

1290
00:50:05,770 --> 00:50:07,280
But like you said, you know you
like babies.

1291
00:50:07,290 --> 00:50:08,690
We didn't.
I didn't really have babies in

1292
00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:11,450
the family for a bit, but we're
close enough age where I was

1293
00:50:11,460 --> 00:50:14,200
still like little kid myself, so
I didn't really pay attention to

1294
00:50:14,210 --> 00:50:16,520
it.
And yeah, so all through my 20s

1295
00:50:16,530 --> 00:50:18,660
I was like, no, no, no, not
really, not really.

1296
00:50:18,730 --> 00:50:20,850
And it wasn't and it was a very
quick switch.

1297
00:50:20,860 --> 00:50:23,280
So I don't have any.
If you listeners, particularly

1298
00:50:23,290 --> 00:50:26,300
blokes, if you're in the same
sort of boat, have had this same

1299
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:28,860
experience.
But I went from thinking

1300
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:30,840
absolutely not.
Were you also?

1301
00:50:30,850 --> 00:50:33,060
Very quickly to clarify, when
you thought that, did you think

1302
00:50:33,070 --> 00:50:34,930
not ever or were you just?
Like no, no, I was just not

1303
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:36,640
right now.
I I always had the idea was

1304
00:50:36,650 --> 00:50:38,900
like, probably want kids.
You probably want kids, but had

1305
00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:41,140
reserved the idea.
But you'd be gutted if it was

1306
00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:42,410
right.
Now, yeah, absolutely would have

1307
00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:44,970
been absolutely even like 20.
OK, that makes sense.

1308
00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:45,310
Yeah.
Yeah.

1309
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,820
But I got to maybe like 29.
I was approaching 30 and.

1310
00:50:48,830 --> 00:50:51,410
Big thing isn't.
It what it was, but it's so

1311
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:54,390
bizarre.
It's something in my head just

1312
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,510
switch and and I was like, oh
man, I want to I want a kid and

1313
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,890
I really did want.
I just I don't know what it was.

1314
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:03,530
It was very bizarre, but.
There's no tangible reason

1315
00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:05,210
behind it.
I think there is a little bit I

1316
00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:08,630
think it was I was getting bored
and you know how you said I had

1317
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,180
I had my whole 20s to just be
airless and normally do much

1318
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:13,460
like we we bought we're very
lucky because we had bought a

1319
00:51:13,470 --> 00:51:17,720
house and when I was about 25,
so I kind of had that that

1320
00:51:17,730 --> 00:51:20,440
honeymoon period was over of
like, oh, we bought has really

1321
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:22,300
cool was that we lived in a
house now for, you know, a few

1322
00:51:22,310 --> 00:51:23,800
years.
First house, first house.

1323
00:51:23,810 --> 00:51:25,030
Yeah, yeah, sorry you're on your
second.

1324
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,560
Yeah, I didn't go on TV and win
loads of money.

1325
00:51:29,860 --> 00:51:33,810
And maybe you should.
My life, I felt like it was

1326
00:51:33,820 --> 00:51:34,670
lacking a bit of.
Purpose.

1327
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,150
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and I think that's what it

1328
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,520
was.
I just felt a bit empty.

1329
00:51:38,570 --> 00:51:41,140
Yeah.
And I kind of filled that in my

1330
00:51:41,150 --> 00:51:43,580
brain with I think I'm having a
kid would fill that and it did.

1331
00:51:43,630 --> 00:51:46,710
So there's the end of my story
is I think that is why I'd say I

1332
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:50,020
don't regret having children is
because it has filled this weird

1333
00:51:50,130 --> 00:51:53,280
purpose hole for me.
And I am someone that just I,

1334
00:51:53,290 --> 00:51:56,020
you know, I constantly need
something like our business like

1335
00:51:56,030 --> 00:51:57,820
teaching was great for couple of
years and I don't need something

1336
00:51:57,830 --> 00:51:58,840
else.
We started a business that was

1337
00:51:58,850 --> 00:52:00,580
great for couple of years.
We started a podcast about

1338
00:52:00,790 --> 00:52:04,550
constantly needs something so
having having a baby, it fills

1339
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,300
that and and more.
So has it been then, because

1340
00:52:08,310 --> 00:52:12,240
we've let's reflect on the six
to eight months because my, my

1341
00:52:12,250 --> 00:52:13,520
first point that's just get out
there.

1342
00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:14,680
So we have to talk about it
anymore.

1343
00:52:14,690 --> 00:52:16,800
Is that the number one thing
that we did to help with the

1344
00:52:16,810 --> 00:52:18,560
fact with parents now is that we
went part-time.

1345
00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:22,360
Like we are so present and I'm
so grateful that I'm able to be

1346
00:52:22,370 --> 00:52:26,040
really present with Rory where
we work.

1347
00:52:26,050 --> 00:52:29,140
My school's 10 minutes away from
my house anyway, and I only have

1348
00:52:29,150 --> 00:52:30,840
to go in three times a week
during time time.

1349
00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:32,950
Like the amount of time I get to
spend at home and being in

1350
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,740
control of my time doesn't mean
that whole I'm always here.

1351
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:38,010
We could run the business and we
do other things and you know.

1352
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,300
We're.
We're around that.

1353
00:52:39,310 --> 00:52:41,670
Yeah, that that you know, I am
literally 2 rooms away.

1354
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,390
Yeah, I'm very grateful.
I don't wanna put people's backs

1355
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,310
up about that because I think
most, no, no, but no.

1356
00:52:45,580 --> 00:52:48,230
But but all I wanna say is like
we we've gotta talk about

1357
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,760
personal experience and I think
we can't now talk about our six

1358
00:52:51,770 --> 00:52:54,060
to eight months experience about
just laying the fact that I

1359
00:52:54,070 --> 00:52:56,070
don't everyone to hear how
lovely it is that we spent so

1360
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,770
much time.
Our kids are not realise that

1361
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,450
it's not because you're choosing
not to if you're working full

1362
00:53:00,460 --> 00:53:03,330
time like it's because we're
fortunate enough that we are at

1363
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:05,920
home.
So when I ask you now, how's it

1364
00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:08,860
been?
Hmm, in that context, how has it

1365
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:10,460
been?
Great.

1366
00:53:11,110 --> 00:53:13,100
No, I don't know.
I don't know what to say really.

1367
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:16,160
It's nice that we are around so
much.

1368
00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:17,660
It's nice.
But however, I will say there is

1369
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:19,940
a big misconception I think from
a lot of people that we know

1370
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,900
that on those days, on those
days we're.

1371
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:23,320
Working on days off, are you
going?

1372
00:53:23,330 --> 00:53:24,340
To say our days off.
Yeah.

1373
00:53:24,350 --> 00:53:26,000
Because they're not.
And actually, if anything, we're

1374
00:53:26,010 --> 00:53:27,600
busier than ever at the moment.
I think.

1375
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:29,800
I don't know about you, but I
think before we were quite

1376
00:53:29,810 --> 00:53:30,690
scatty.
Yeah.

1377
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:32,240
Yeah.
So if on a Thursday and Friday

1378
00:53:32,250 --> 00:53:34,300
we're like, let's have a couple
of hours off and do something,

1379
00:53:34,310 --> 00:53:35,640
we'll just catch up on the
weekend.

1380
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,410
Now it's a bit like no weekends.
A bit more sacred now actually,

1381
00:53:38,420 --> 00:53:39,930
because I want to spend time as
a.

1382
00:53:39,940 --> 00:53:41,710
Family and wider family, that's
when they're.

1383
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:43,660
Yeah.
So on Thursdays and Fridays now

1384
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,730
when we're on our part time
days, we're at home we're so I

1385
00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:49,520
find that we're more busy than
ever and we will do like a 10/12

1386
00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:50,870
hour day.
But do you find it's made you

1387
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,790
more productive outside of
school like and like in terms of

1388
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,530
everything having the.
Kids so much more, so much more

1389
00:53:56,540 --> 00:53:59,370
productive just getting it done.
Just getting stuff done in

1390
00:53:59,380 --> 00:54:01,570
certain time frames.
Thinking I don't have any other

1391
00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:02,630
time to do this.
I have to do it.

1392
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,950
I can't just procrastinate.
I've got to get it done.

1393
00:54:05,090 --> 00:54:07,160
What about you?
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think

1394
00:54:07,170 --> 00:54:08,930
exactly that.
I think it's just made me, it's

1395
00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:10,740
made me more organised in that
respect.

1396
00:54:11,410 --> 00:54:15,750
I I, you know, I feel guilty if
I'm spending more time on

1397
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,230
something that I have to umm, I
feel guilty, right.

1398
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,040
Doing anything that doesn't have
to be done.

1399
00:54:21,220 --> 00:54:22,770
That isn't with worry.
Rory.

1400
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,550
Yeah.
So what a big example of this is

1401
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:30,610
we went out for lunch the other
day, Lauren's parents came to

1402
00:54:30,620 --> 00:54:33,330
see Rory and we had to nip out
to get something because we're,

1403
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,290
we're ongoing decorating the
house.

1404
00:54:35,330 --> 00:54:37,560
So I think we have to go out to
get some paint or something like

1405
00:54:37,570 --> 00:54:38,950
that.
We had to go and get something

1406
00:54:39,020 --> 00:54:40,950
and it was something where
realistically is both of us

1407
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,900
needed to go to decide what we
wanted in the house.

1408
00:54:43,290 --> 00:54:45,460
So a lot of Lauren's parents
around, we were like, oh, do you

1409
00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:46,700
mind just looking after him for
a bit?

1410
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:49,380
We done a couple of times where
we just nipped out and left Rory

1411
00:54:49,390 --> 00:54:51,280
with them, which is again, fine
with grandparents.

1412
00:54:51,290 --> 00:54:53,830
That's lovely.
But we went out and we were

1413
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,940
like, yes, and lunch.
So we, we got some lunch and we

1414
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:59,090
went to ask, you know, like a
proper restaurant 1st.

1415
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:00,950
And it was actually the first
time we'd gone to do that

1416
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,030
because we only have nipped out
to the shop or something.

1417
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,790
Yeah.
And we were like, we ordered our

1418
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,530
food and we've been in the
restaurant for like 10 minutes

1419
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:15,050
and Laurence phone notification
popped up and her background is

1420
00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:17,200
a rotating Marcel Rory pictures
or something.

1421
00:55:17,370 --> 00:55:19,800
And so Rory's face popped up and
I nearly started crying.

1422
00:55:20,090 --> 00:55:21,860
Like, I'm not even joking,
honestly.

1423
00:55:21,870 --> 00:55:22,620
Yeah.
Little while.

1424
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:24,460
Yeah.
But I, I literally honest to God

1425
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:27,140
was I had to sell a phone away
because I couldn't look at him

1426
00:55:27,150 --> 00:55:30,600
because I felt so much guilt in
that moment.

1427
00:55:30,650 --> 00:55:33,200
Yeah, not that we've gone out,
but the fact we were doing

1428
00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:34,800
something we just didn't have to
do.

1429
00:55:34,930 --> 00:55:36,700
So we didn't have to go for
lunch.

1430
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:38,560
We could have just nipped to the
shop and gone home again.

1431
00:55:38,650 --> 00:55:41,370
And Long was like, you you've
been to work.

1432
00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:42,960
Like, yeah, but I know you're
with him.

1433
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:44,820
Yeah, I know you're with Matt's
mum.

1434
00:55:44,890 --> 00:55:47,680
And I know that I have go to
work, so you're home with his

1435
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:49,820
mum.
But there was something about

1436
00:55:49,830 --> 00:55:52,760
the fact that we didn't have to
be enjoying ourselves.

1437
00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:56,200
Like I've never felt guilty for
enjoying myself.

1438
00:55:56,210 --> 00:55:58,360
And it was the fact we were both
out doing it.

1439
00:55:58,610 --> 00:56:00,760
I felt horrendous.
I felt horrible guilt, if you

1440
00:56:00,770 --> 00:56:02,350
felt that at all.
Yeah, Honestly, no.

1441
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,660
Because you don't love your
child.

1442
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:04,880
Yeah.
No, no, I don't know.

1443
00:56:05,230 --> 00:56:06,670
No, I think we're very different
with that.

1444
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,820
Yeah.
You're really.

1445
00:56:07,830 --> 00:56:13,990
Really, I think as long as long
as you safe, hmm, and and happy

1446
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,280
that I'm happy, you know, I
mean, that's it.

1447
00:56:15,290 --> 00:56:18,590
So when she's with my mum or
Lauren's mum, I know that she

1448
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,360
loves being with them and she
doesn't like, you know, if she

1449
00:56:21,370 --> 00:56:23,530
was one of those papers then got
really upset, but she didn't

1450
00:56:23,540 --> 00:56:27,090
want she like detachment, then
I'd probably feel quite guilty.

1451
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,510
But because she's just
absolutely fine and loves it.

1452
00:56:29,820 --> 00:56:31,990
As long as I know she's safe and
happy, I'm just that's fine.

1453
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,810
But we did our first thing like
that as well.

1454
00:56:34,820 --> 00:56:37,890
The last month we went out for a
Sunday roast and it was because

1455
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:40,750
the mind Lawrence Anniversary
seven years and yeah, we went

1456
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,260
out for for a roast dinner.
With seven-year Itch.

1457
00:56:43,610 --> 00:56:45,670
Seven-year itch yeah yeah, we've
got roast dinner.

1458
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,320
That's.
What ours is.

1459
00:56:47,090 --> 00:56:48,900
And that was kind of, but we
were like, oh, this is nice,

1460
00:56:48,910 --> 00:56:50,320
isn't it?
Because obviously restaurants

1461
00:56:50,330 --> 00:56:51,860
were babies, especially with our
baby.

1462
00:56:51,870 --> 00:56:54,380
Jesus Christ is just a bit of a
nightmare.

1463
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:56,400
But I didn't feel I didn't feel
guilty at all.

1464
00:56:56,670 --> 00:56:58,270
I like I said, I think I would
if.

1465
00:56:59,030 --> 00:57:01,720
She was the Royals, Having a
bank was having a great time.

1466
00:57:01,790 --> 00:57:05,160
It was my own personal like.
Yeah, ohh God, that's a you

1467
00:57:05,170 --> 00:57:06,750
thing that.
Very much, yeah.

1468
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,980
And you're a bit like that you
anyway.

1469
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:10,480
I mean, I know you get quite
anxious and nervous like about

1470
00:57:10,490 --> 00:57:12,140
leaving him or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.

1471
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:14,700
I just, there's something about,
you know, I spent the first two

1472
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:16,700
weeks of his life staring and
making sure he's breathing and

1473
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:19,350
like, yeah, like, honestly, like
looking back now, I think it's

1474
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,880
insane.
It's of course he's breathing.

1475
00:57:20,890 --> 00:57:22,440
He's a bit like, of course it
is.

1476
00:57:22,550 --> 00:57:25,800
But I sat up and for hours, and
I'm not even exaggerating, for

1477
00:57:25,810 --> 00:57:28,990
hours I would just be staring at
his chest looking for small

1478
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,850
movements.
Yep, Yep.

1479
00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:33,120
OK, cool.
Not like to state that.

1480
00:57:33,130 --> 00:57:34,350
And I was like, no.
No, no, no.

1481
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,460
Because he worked.
He might.

1482
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:37,520
That's Might.
Just stop.

1483
00:57:37,530 --> 00:57:38,880
Stop.
Moving and if it did, stop it

1484
00:57:38,890 --> 00:57:40,500
because I'd obviously make it
happen again.

1485
00:57:40,510 --> 00:57:41,860
Yeah, I didn't know what to.
Do anything?

1486
00:57:41,870 --> 00:57:44,110
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, let's talk because look at

1487
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,600
the time, like an hour in.
Let's quickly talk about work

1488
00:57:47,650 --> 00:57:50,420
and and parenting and just how
it's affected.

1489
00:57:50,430 --> 00:57:52,480
I'm gonna ask you a very open
question.

1490
00:57:52,550 --> 00:57:56,100
How do you think having a child
has changed your life as a

1491
00:57:56,110 --> 00:58:00,250
teacher?
It cemented the direction it was

1492
00:58:00,260 --> 00:58:06,310
going in any way, which was far
less drive and desire to go

1493
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,870
above and beyond.
I think it was already happening

1494
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,080
and it's already on that
trajectory for a lot of teachers

1495
00:58:12,090 --> 00:58:16,070
because we're fed up with rising
workload, squeezed pay and

1496
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,030
seeing other professions get on.
Only this week there are

1497
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,770
statistics put out about teacher
retention and recruitment.

1498
00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:23,140
Again.
The government missed again

1499
00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:24,650
their target for recruitment
teachers.

1500
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:27,930
They missed it nine out of the
last 10 years that there is a

1501
00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:30,540
reason why this is happening.
And when someone smuggling on

1502
00:58:30,550 --> 00:58:33,160
the Internet says, well, why
don't you leave then if it's so

1503
00:58:33,170 --> 00:58:35,660
hard, I, I want to shake them
and say we are.

1504
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:38,150
And that's a massive problem.
We don't have enough teachers to

1505
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,800
fix it.
That's what's happening.

1506
00:58:39,870 --> 00:58:42,520
So if that's your, if that's
your way of fixing this is for

1507
00:58:42,530 --> 00:58:45,340
the problem to get worse, then
you have no idea what you're

1508
00:58:45,350 --> 00:58:48,020
talking about.
And so I think I'm not going to

1509
00:58:48,030 --> 00:58:50,560
pretend that it completely
changed my outlook on teaching

1510
00:58:50,570 --> 00:58:54,580
because I don't think it did.
It just cemented what I was

1511
00:58:54,590 --> 00:58:57,440
already going the path down and
now I'm 100% there.

1512
00:58:57,450 --> 00:59:02,080
I'm like, I am not going to do
anything that I don't have to do

1513
00:59:02,090 --> 00:59:05,830
in that job, which is not a
detriment to my my children in

1514
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,500
my class.
Yeah.

1515
00:59:06,510 --> 00:59:11,250
So, for example, if there is a
display to be put up and that

1516
00:59:11,260 --> 00:59:13,650
means I have to stay in school
from half four till five when I

1517
00:59:13,660 --> 00:59:16,210
could go home to Rory, I won't
put the display up.

1518
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,110
Yeah, because I've made the
decision that that is not

1519
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,210
detrimental to my children's
progress in my class.

1520
00:59:21,220 --> 00:59:24,190
What if it's in your classroom?
I again have made that decision

1521
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,560
that as a teacher I can teach
the children well.

1522
00:59:26,570 --> 00:59:28,920
And if I can do it in the car,
if it's if it's absolutely vital

1523
00:59:28,930 --> 00:59:32,380
for whatever reason, then I will
try and make my teaching

1524
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:35,170
assistant get some time to do it
during the day or me if I get

1525
00:59:35,180 --> 00:59:37,680
some time during PA.
Yeah, but like I said in a few

1526
00:59:37,690 --> 00:59:39,790
episodes ago, which my top tips
I think for a teacher while

1527
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:44,570
being that we did prioritising
what is best for my class and

1528
00:59:44,580 --> 00:59:47,030
doing those things first and
when I run out of time that that

1529
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,410
list stops.
Yeah, so you know, it's funny

1530
00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:51,530
cause what you said is very
logical and actually how most

1531
00:59:51,540 --> 00:59:52,830
jobs work ever.
Yeah, I know.

1532
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,790
I think, I reckon a lot of
people are listening right now

1533
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,070
thinking that's it makes you
sound bad.

1534
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,100
It makes you sound lazy.
Lazy teacher doesn't do the job

1535
01:00:00,110 --> 01:00:00,880
properly.
That's what it.

1536
01:00:00,890 --> 01:00:04,010
Sounds like it's, it's, it's
insane because what we always

1537
01:00:04,020 --> 01:00:06,850
like miss out on these lists.
And when we say stuff like this,

1538
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,830
when I say as a teacher, I'm
not, I'm not saying from half

1539
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,280
four till five to do a display.
What is not even remotely

1540
01:00:14,290 --> 01:00:17,060
thought about is the amount of
time I put into planning my

1541
01:00:17,070 --> 01:00:19,300
lessons and delivering them that
day and then marking them.

1542
01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:23,630
So it's like, hey, that we, we
kind of just forget the job and

1543
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,280
then we judge people on how much
extra they do for free.

1544
01:00:26,290 --> 01:00:29,020
So yeah, we all go, OK, well,
it's we all teach all day.

1545
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:31,350
We all plan lessons, all market.
Let's put that in a box.

1546
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:33,380
The only thing I'm actually
going to judge you as a teacher

1547
01:00:33,390 --> 01:00:34,820
is all the extra stuff where you
stay later.

1548
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:36,690
So if you do that, well, you're
a great teacher, aren't you?

1549
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:38,830
Look, you're fantastic.
Displays your pub and look at

1550
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,300
that amazing thing you did and
you state cross country.

1551
01:00:41,770 --> 01:00:43,550
Yeah, Jackie is like, well, you
didn't do that.

1552
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,300
You must be awful teacher.
So we we are completely ignoring

1553
01:00:46,310 --> 01:00:48,830
this box here which is full of
my full time job, that that's my

1554
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,370
job there.
My job is the planning,

1555
01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:52,450
delivering and marking and
assessment of lessons.

1556
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,630
Do not judge teachers on how
much of the extra stuff they do.

1557
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:56,550
That's insane.
OK.

1558
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,430
So do you think being a parent
has impacted the main bit, the

1559
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,270
bit in the box for you or do you
think you still do that as well

1560
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,270
or as efficiently or as, I don't
know, passionately as before?

1561
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:12,560
I do the same as what I did
before Rory.

1562
01:01:12,740 --> 01:01:14,780
Hmm.
But what I did before Rory was

1563
01:01:14,790 --> 01:01:16,400
different to what I did at the
start of my career.

1564
01:01:16,590 --> 01:01:20,200
So again, just reiterating that
point that I I was on this

1565
01:01:20,210 --> 01:01:21,910
journey anyway.
I'm reducing my workload.

1566
01:01:22,050 --> 01:01:23,560
Yeah.
I was already on this journey

1567
01:01:23,570 --> 01:01:25,540
where I didn't plan everything
from scratch, which I used to

1568
01:01:25,550 --> 01:01:27,160
do.
I was already on this journey

1569
01:01:27,170 --> 01:01:30,170
of, OK, I'm long in the tooth
enough now as a teacher to not

1570
01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:32,340
have to do everything
intricately on the slides

1571
01:01:32,350 --> 01:01:33,880
anymore.
I can deliver a good lesson,

1572
01:01:34,450 --> 01:01:36,390
almost adlib knowing what we're
going to do.

1573
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,620
But just modelling stuff and
doing it together.

1574
01:01:39,090 --> 01:01:41,110
That was already happening.
Rory didn't.

1575
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,620
Rory didn't actually change the
trajectory he might have.

1576
01:01:43,630 --> 01:01:45,770
Accelerated it, yeah.
So if I look at the quality of

1577
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:47,820
your teaching, if I could go
back in time and actually just

1578
01:01:47,830 --> 01:01:50,270
just assess you as a teacher,
the effectiveness of you doing

1579
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,760
your main job, none of the
outside stuff, none of the above

1580
01:01:52,770 --> 01:01:55,590
and beyond stuff, you wouldn't,
you wouldn't say that that's

1581
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,130
dropped because of quality.
Thanks as well.

1582
01:01:59,170 --> 01:02:01,580
I know, but money that that
hasn't dropped for you because I

1583
01:02:01,590 --> 01:02:04,070
know you and I just want to make
that really clear because I

1584
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,080
think that that makes a big
distinction between doing that.

1585
01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:10,500
We still take our job very
seriously and do the job

1586
01:02:10,550 --> 01:02:12,920
properly and kids learn really
well still.

1587
01:02:12,970 --> 01:02:15,270
To really important job, to
really important job.

1588
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,180
And you're right, because we can
give the impression sometimes

1589
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:18,930
that we're so flippant.
About stuff, I don't care about

1590
01:02:18,940 --> 01:02:21,160
the job.
No, I care just as much as I

1591
01:02:21,170 --> 01:02:24,580
always did about the job.
It's just that we never talk

1592
01:02:24,590 --> 01:02:26,080
about the job.
We talk about, like you said,

1593
01:02:26,130 --> 01:02:27,600
all of the stuff that goes
around it.

1594
01:02:27,610 --> 01:02:30,370
That is just a weird expectation
that you just do for free in

1595
01:02:30,380 --> 01:02:32,630
your own time.
Sacrifice, be a martyr to

1596
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,610
education is no, I'm not going
to do anymore.

1597
01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:36,470
No, it's like, honestly, I got
in.

1598
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,470
I got in at half seven this
morning to prep my lessons and I

1599
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,210
delivered them and then I marked
them after school.

1600
01:02:41,540 --> 01:02:45,140
Yeah, I am leaving at half four.
Hmm, no, I'm not.

1601
01:02:45,150 --> 01:02:46,120
No, I'm not doing.
That.

1602
01:02:46,130 --> 01:02:47,810
Yeah, yeah.
Because actually, I, I know this

1603
01:02:47,820 --> 01:02:49,120
weekend I'm gonna do some
planning as well.

1604
01:02:49,130 --> 01:02:50,570
Yeah.
Because that's not been done for

1605
01:02:50,580 --> 01:02:51,170
next week.
Yeah.

1606
01:02:51,180 --> 01:02:52,800
Because we've changed our
curriculum and we're doing this,

1607
01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:55,060
you know, these things happen
and and I, I work.

1608
01:02:55,070 --> 01:02:59,170
I I'd say I work most weekends
at least you know.

1609
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:01,630
At least every other.
At least every other and when I

1610
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,050
do it's at least an hour or two
so like.

1611
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Which is just not what would
happen if you were just doing a

1612
01:03:07,690 --> 01:03:09,750
different job where you know you
left your work.

1613
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,900
I'm not saying I have a job to
stress free either.

1614
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:14,850
That's like a really annoying
thing that gets posted to me

1615
01:03:14,860 --> 01:03:18,190
online on Instagram and stuff.
It's like, well, we have a have

1616
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,930
a stressful job.
So I didn't say anything about

1617
01:03:19,940 --> 01:03:22,250
your job.
Me saying that teaching is

1618
01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:25,570
stressful was not me saying that
your job is not just stop.

1619
01:03:25,580 --> 01:03:28,060
It's not a race to the bottom
how hard we've all got it.

1620
01:03:28,130 --> 01:03:30,860
Yeah, we are.
Just my experience is that it's

1621
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:33,290
a tough weird job of weird.
Expectations which can make it

1622
01:03:33,300 --> 01:03:34,410
work.
You gotta make what you've got

1623
01:03:34,420 --> 01:03:39,140
work a lot of times and people,
I just want to finish by coming

1624
01:03:39,150 --> 01:03:41,740
back to this right when people
say you mentioned this, when

1625
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:45,230
people say just get another job,
then I hate that argument so

1626
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,060
much.
And if you ever use that

1627
01:03:46,070 --> 01:03:48,480
argument, please, please, please
stop using it as a really,

1628
01:03:48,490 --> 01:03:50,920
really nonsense argument.
I'll just get another job.

1629
01:03:50,930 --> 01:03:53,940
We know people can get other
jobs, but we also do want

1630
01:03:53,950 --> 01:03:57,100
teachers and we do want nurses
and we do want police like just

1631
01:03:57,110 --> 01:03:58,990
telling them go get a better
job.

1632
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,780
Then it's like no is that
doesn't fix the problem.

1633
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:03,530
So please stop using Argon.
Anyone.

1634
01:04:03,580 --> 01:04:06,170
So just got 55 insurance brokers
and no teachers.

1635
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,650
So OK, well, no one's teaching
our kids though.

1636
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:11,970
Yeah.
And I would add to your point

1637
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,490
and, and again, I'm not saying
about insurance brokers, we need

1638
01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:16,050
them, OK?
I'm just saying we need a

1639
01:04:16,060 --> 01:04:19,650
breadth of different careers.
Moving on from your point even

1640
01:04:19,660 --> 01:04:21,710
further is we want to be
teachers.

1641
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:27,090
I want to be a teacher.
I wish that I felt like my

1642
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:31,430
teacher wage was enough to
supplement my family and was

1643
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,260
enough to support my family, but
it's not.

1644
01:04:34,590 --> 01:04:37,860
So I can't control me getting a
pay rise.

1645
01:04:38,010 --> 01:04:40,000
So that's why we started our
business.

1646
01:04:40,190 --> 01:04:43,700
Yeah, we can control how much we
market and grow our business and

1647
01:04:43,710 --> 01:04:47,310
we can see a tangible return on
on hours we put into that job.

1648
01:04:47,410 --> 01:04:49,910
For example, we're opening up a
service for year four and year

1649
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,890
six children.
We currently have a service just

1650
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:54,630
for year five children.
We're about to triple our our

1651
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,620
services, right.
Even, you know, let's just say

1652
01:04:57,630 --> 01:05:02,530
it goes kind of well, we might
add 50% to 100% of our revenue

1653
01:05:02,540 --> 01:05:06,440
next year, OK.
That means that the time we put

1654
01:05:06,450 --> 01:05:09,730
into opening that business,
opening them avenues, now it's

1655
01:05:09,740 --> 01:05:11,960
going to have a direct link to
the amount of revenue we get

1656
01:05:11,970 --> 01:05:14,900
through our business.
That's not what happens with.

1657
01:05:14,910 --> 01:05:16,560
Teaching.
No, the more time you don't get.

1658
01:05:16,570 --> 01:05:17,520
Anything.
You don't get anything.

1659
01:05:17,530 --> 01:05:18,780
For us, there's no retention
bonuses.

1660
01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:21,480
Either, yeah, it's nothing.
There's nothing to to keep keep

1661
01:05:21,490 --> 01:05:22,880
us in the job.
And that's why people are

1662
01:05:22,890 --> 01:05:24,360
leaving.
We have a crisis.

1663
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:26,220
Hmm.
Crazy, right?

1664
01:05:26,270 --> 01:05:27,840
One minute 10.
I've got one last question.

1665
01:05:27,850 --> 01:05:30,050
One minute, one minute 10.
One hour 10.

1666
01:05:30,060 --> 01:05:32,670
You got to keep it quick though,
OK, Because I want to ask.

1667
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,340
This is the last question.
This is the last question,

1668
01:05:34,350 --> 01:05:38,680
right?
About teaching Do you now treat

1669
01:05:38,750 --> 01:05:42,690
teachers differently if if you
know their parents and why if

1670
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:45,150
you do?
Two parts of this question.

1671
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:48,390
Instinctively, yes.
When I sit and think about it

1672
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,670
for five seconds, I get annoyed
at myself for doing that and I

1673
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,990
make a point of not doing it.
OK, why do you instinctively

1674
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,400
treat teachers differently if
you know their parents, the

1675
01:05:55,410 --> 01:05:56,770
teachers that aren't?
Parents, because I've

1676
01:05:56,780 --> 01:05:59,770
experienced not being a parent
and being a parent and the

1677
01:05:59,780 --> 01:06:03,810
insane difference in amount of
time and and freedom I have is,

1678
01:06:03,860 --> 01:06:07,410
is I can't ignore that.
I know how incredibly different

1679
01:06:07,420 --> 01:06:11,250
life becomes once you have a
baby, even down to just simply

1680
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,750
the time in your life.
Ignore the fact you have a

1681
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,940
lovely, you know, card now you
love with all your heart and

1682
01:06:15,950 --> 01:06:17,700
you've got all this, I mean,
attachment and stuff.

1683
01:06:17,790 --> 01:06:20,180
OK, ignore that for a second.
Quite simply, the amount of time

1684
01:06:20,190 --> 01:06:22,420
I have, any amount of sleep I
get, any amount of functionality

1685
01:06:22,430 --> 01:06:25,570
I have is less after having
Rory.

1686
01:06:25,710 --> 01:06:28,830
So when someone tells me they've
had a baby, my initial thought

1687
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,880
is, Oh my God, are you OK?
How are you getting on?

1688
01:06:31,890 --> 01:06:34,380
And if they say I need to rush,
I can't do that tonight.

1689
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:36,160
I need to rush off because I've
got a child.

1690
01:06:36,310 --> 01:06:38,060
I'd be like, Oh my God, that's
fine.

1691
01:06:38,170 --> 01:06:40,420
Whereas if someone says I need
to rush off, I don't want to do

1692
01:06:40,430 --> 01:06:42,480
that.
Your gut instinct is just ohh,

1693
01:06:42,490 --> 01:06:45,240
OK, you know, I don't have that
sympathy straight away.

1694
01:06:45,330 --> 01:06:48,440
However, immediately when I when
I have that, because I've said

1695
01:06:48,450 --> 01:06:50,600
before, well, I don't want to do
I've got Rory, I'm going home.

1696
01:06:50,890 --> 01:06:53,980
I then after three seconds ago.
And if anyone else doesn't want

1697
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:56,130
to do that just because they
don't want to, that's enough of

1698
01:06:56,140 --> 01:06:57,040
a reason.
Equally fine.

1699
01:06:57,050 --> 01:06:59,040
Yeah, that's fine.
It's not because I've got a

1700
01:06:59,050 --> 01:07:01,500
child, it's because it's extra
work and I think you should be

1701
01:07:01,510 --> 01:07:04,320
compensated for it.
And and if you if you me having

1702
01:07:04,330 --> 01:07:06,340
a child doesn't mean I get a get
out of gaol free card and you

1703
01:07:06,350 --> 01:07:08,540
don't, everyone still has.
To be smokers break.

1704
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:11,490
Yeah, is, is, is completely.
And I know having a child is

1705
01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:13,680
important and we're growing in
society and we need people to

1706
01:07:13,690 --> 01:07:16,670
replace those that don't care.
Times of the job.

1707
01:07:16,740 --> 01:07:19,610
I I really really really think
that there shouldn't be a

1708
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:20,910
difference in how it treated.
No.

1709
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,850
So let's treat everyone like
they've got a kid.

1710
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:25,060
Yeah, that's one way to do it.
That should be the default it

1711
01:07:25,070 --> 01:07:26,250
really.
Isn't and there's there's two

1712
01:07:26,260 --> 01:07:28,030
ways people go down.
Same with like, ohh, these

1713
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,810
benefit cheats.
There's always two roads you can

1714
01:07:29,820 --> 01:07:33,130
go down, go down the road of
treating everyone and and

1715
01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:35,520
knowing some people will take
advantage of the system or you

1716
01:07:35,530 --> 01:07:37,330
don't give anyone anything
knowing there are people who

1717
01:07:37,340 --> 01:07:39,910
need something and it's like,
but you can make people more.

1718
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:41,630
But me personally?
What do you mean?

1719
01:07:41,740 --> 01:07:43,790
As in, like, if you treat them
like they don't have kids, you

1720
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,560
can manipulate people into doing
more stuff.

1721
01:07:45,570 --> 01:07:46,990
Well, have kids.
So, you know, you can go home.

1722
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,740
You can go home.
That's all I'm saying.

1723
01:07:48,750 --> 01:07:50,180
I'm saying there are two
options.

1724
01:07:50,250 --> 01:07:52,790
Treat everyone, give them stuff.
Yeah.

1725
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:55,860
And then what I'm saying is
don't don't manipulate people

1726
01:07:55,870 --> 01:07:57,410
because they don't have.
Kids, I'm saying that's the

1727
01:07:57,420 --> 01:07:58,260
other option.
Don't do that.

1728
01:07:58,910 --> 01:08:01,820
No, no, because I'm saying you'd
also not be treating people to

1729
01:08:01,830 --> 01:08:02,930
have kids like they don't have
kids.

1730
01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:04,200
Yeah.
So they miss out.

1731
01:08:04,270 --> 01:08:05,030
Yeah.
I'm not.

1732
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,070
They wouldn't be.
I've.

1733
01:08:06,110 --> 01:08:07,580
No one would manipulate me.
I've had a kid.

1734
01:08:07,710 --> 01:08:09,000
Yeah.
They don't manipulate me if I

1735
01:08:09,010 --> 01:08:09,940
didn't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1736
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:11,440
But that's just my point,
though.

1737
01:08:11,450 --> 01:08:13,110
Benefits.
It's just like, no, there's

1738
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:14,400
scroungers.
There's no one should have

1739
01:08:14,410 --> 01:08:16,819
anything.
It's like, no, I'd rather

1740
01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:18,760
someone take advantage than
somebody needs something or get

1741
01:08:18,770 --> 01:08:20,760
it.
Yeah, so me too.

1742
01:08:20,770 --> 01:08:22,399
I think I've really
misunderstood your point.

1743
01:08:22,410 --> 01:08:23,800
No, it's fine.
It's good place.

1744
01:08:23,810 --> 01:08:25,340
Terrifying.
But I don't know what you.

1745
01:08:25,350 --> 01:08:27,310
Mean I was.
Just gonna got any one one

1746
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:28,950
minute, 12 minutes.
Was just an analogy.

1747
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,540
Would be two seconds since
morning 10.

1748
01:08:30,609 --> 01:08:32,399
Yeah.
So you've got time.

1749
01:08:32,790 --> 01:08:34,399
Time.
Wow, it's been long episode.

1750
01:08:34,450 --> 01:08:36,279
Another one where I said let's
do a short episode today.

1751
01:08:36,350 --> 01:08:39,260
Yep, and another one way you say
let's do a short one and I say

1752
01:08:39,270 --> 01:08:41,529
OK, and I just ignore that
because I know we'll just change

1753
01:08:41,540 --> 01:08:44,420
forever whenever guys follow us
on Instagram at Teach P podcast

1754
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:47,580
and I'm thinking we might have a
new artwork for our podcast

1755
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:49,520
soon.
Ohh can't wait to not like.

1756
01:08:49,529 --> 01:08:52,529
It Yeah and not do anything for
it and just moan yeah, classic

1757
01:08:52,540 --> 01:08:55,529
Hayden not doing anything
moaning about everything yeah.

1758
01:08:55,540 --> 01:08:57,930
Gene, any artists out there
wanted to sign us and artworks

1759
01:08:57,939 --> 01:09:00,319
to veto Dylan's version?
Of it Any dentists out there?

1760
01:09:00,330 --> 01:09:03,109
I want to check my teeth ohh.
Let me know, Don't be them off

1761
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,490
again.
Guys follow us like us, rate

1762
01:09:05,500 --> 01:09:08,090
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1763
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,090
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1764
01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:11,149
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