Ep 55: Sophie B: Parenting and Teaching, Setting Boundaries At Work & Job Sharing (part 1)

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Hello everyone.
Welcome back to another episode.

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Ohh Teach Repeat.
My name is Dylan.

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And my name is Hayden.
And we're back.

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We're back.
And we are not in the same room

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because we realised that it's
less things for us to do to just

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stay in our own house and crawl
upstairs and get on the

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computer.
Pardon.

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Fewer things.
Or you were learning.

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Well done.
I planted that there on purpose

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like a real teacher.
I'll be waiting years to get

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him.
You know, it was all planned,

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Aiden.
I don't know.

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Old teacher trick.
Well, that's maybe way too

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excited, by the way.
Way too excited to get you

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there.
Go on, carry on.

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Please carry on.
You've made my day.

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Go.
On No, no.

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Well, finally enough.
In our recording, which you'll

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hear later on with our esteemed
guest, I also did make the same

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mistake.
Wonder if you guys can listen up

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and hear for you.
But you yeah, you didn't say

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anything.
I'm not gonna say anything else.

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But I said less when you when I
definitely should have said

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fewer.
I don't know how it makes you

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feel, Hayden.
I I'm annoyed that I didn't jump

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on that opportunity, but you
know, there it is.

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I still got one.
I've still got.

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One well, I mean, even if you
did jump on it, I probably would

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have had it for five seconds
because we got a slight issue,

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guys, that we're gonna tell you
about right now with the next

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episode.
Yeah, my my Internet connection

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was decided to be the worst it's
ever been whilst we're doing our

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online version with Sophie
obviously over the Internet.

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And so I was a good five seconds
behind and I know the joke is

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hated that I do like to
interrupt you anyway, can't deny

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that.
I mean, it is enjoyable for me.

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It it, it was exacerbated
massively.

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I would say something and five
seconds later it would come

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through whilst he was in middle
centre.

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So we're gonna try and clean it
up as much as possible.

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But anyway, we'll talk about
Sophie in a second.

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We're gonna do our usual
introductions.

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Welcome.
Everyone has come to see Sophie.

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Why not hear about two boring
men for a while instead?

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Hayden, how's your week been?
Wow, what an introduction.

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Hey everyone, nice to speak to
you all.

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Please do listen to my stories.
I've actually got quite a funny

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story from this week that I
think will make you laugh.

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OK, I've had.
I've had a lovely week, by the

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way.
Had a lovely week.

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The sun is coming out.
That spring feeling is there.

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I didn't wear my thick coat for
the first time in many months.

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That's a big night, isn't it?
That's nice.

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I just a quick question to you.
Do you find yourself affected by

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like the those season?
What's it called?

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Sad, isn't it?
I always think is it seasonal

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affective disorder or something
like.

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That, yeah, I I just know it's
seasonal depression.

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Yeah, that's what I think of it
as.

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But I find myself very affected
by that.

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Like my happiness is just
plummets during those winter

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months.
Are you similar?

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Or do you know?
Yeah, definitely.

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And I it seems to get be getting
worse that the older I get.

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And I don't know why that is.
Maybe because I get, you know,

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just trudging along at work and
then you finish work.

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There is nothing worse than
leaving to work.

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And it's dark.
And getting home from work and

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it's dark like that is the
ultimate.

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It feels like you're in a
constant night for like months.

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But what is it?
What is amazing is Hayden.

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Within two weeks now the clocks
are going back and I cannot tell

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you how happy a light evening
makes me when it's still light,

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like 7:00 PM.
Ohh my gosh, it makes so much

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difference.
Because even at the minute you

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finish work, it's like you get
home, you cook your dinner, sort

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stuff out when you actually,
like, switch off and relax.

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It is then night time.
It's dark.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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What?
There's something about them

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Summer evenings, right?
Market marking books at school.

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Seeing it get dark before you
leave, it's just like ohh so

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annoying like I've not got any
of this day.

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But I agree anyway, so this this
week just one quick thing about

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your blooming class, because
they always pranking me, aren't

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they?
Now just gives you some kids go

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up to me this week I was so
excited forgot to me say ohh hi

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Missus Davis was like Jesus
Christ what What What Are you

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OK?
Ohh you're on the sad face

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today.
You were on the sad face.

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Haha, who's apparently you.
You'd written my name underneath

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a sad face on the ball.
Just like couldn't have been

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more buzzing to tell me that I'm
naughty.

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Yeah, The thing is with that, I
think a lot of people agree.

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Now I I, I I genuinely don't
really like the idea of a sad

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face on the board.
I don't know about, you know

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what you think.
I don't.

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I don't like that.
I think it's quite old school.

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I don't like putting a name on
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I just think it's the wrong way
to go about it personally.

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So I just don't like that.
But what I do like doing is

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massively over praising people
are doing the right thing.

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So I love the use of my board
with a :) and I'm constantly

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writing people's name up and
bigging them up and giving them

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team points if they ever do
anything that's like, you know,

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above and beyond, like going
going that top, top level.

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So I just thought, do you know
what will work here though?

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If I invert it and put Mr
Stevens on the sad face, they'll

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be so buzzing and no one will
want to join him.

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No one will want to join him on
his face.

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They were so happy.
Backfire.

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They're all naughty.
They loved, they love being

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there with me.
But I got my back a little bit

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because I came into your class
of the day, which I haven't

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spoken about since, by the way.
In it really made me laugh

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because I could see, I can see
you were in the middle of trying

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to actually be serious.
So it was just after and still

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has got PE and I said to him
that I'd help him get out some

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of the the wall equipment he
hasn't done in a while.

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I was like, I just find him on
PA but I thought now I know I'll

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go round to your classroom mid
registration the most annoying

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possible time to have someone
disturb your when you want them

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to be silent.
And I I just walked in I didn't

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say anything I just found an
empty desk like wear a seat was

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and just sat down and just
pretended to be a kid.

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Didn't look at any of them
around me.

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I just pretended to join in.
I'm a kid now so obviously that

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other kids were looking at me
sort of giggling and laughing

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and I was like and I should I
get guys going?

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Because we because midway
through explaining what they do

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in PE and how sensible they have
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OK.
And then I and I just put my

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hand up, hand straight up
question.

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I could see your face like, Oh
my God go away.

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Just trying to get this bit
done.

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I I have.
I've always up for that.

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I think it's really funny.
But you did just happen to come

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into a point where I was like,
no, no, please.

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Hey, that they they really do
need to know that if we're gonna

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get all this equipment out.
PE, they can't be silly.

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So it's really like, I was
really in my serious mode, which

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I probably think is like less
than 5% of the time when it

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wouldn't be acceptable, like I
wouldn't be able to ride it out.

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But you honestly gave it away as
possible.

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Point I was like, seriously,
when we get this equipment out,

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OK, we're gonna have to be.
Really.

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Really.
Like, you know, come through.

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The door.
Literally, you like you on a

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catwalk.
Yeah.

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Hey guys, are you coming?
Sit down.

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And and I was like OK like that.
But I love it.

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I lost them all anyway, how how
was that lesson?

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Cause I didn't actually reflect
with you afterwards.

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Like, because we got to
basically, I helped Dylan get

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all of the classic wall
equipment out.

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You know, the one that's the
ones that were put into schools

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in like the 90s.
Obviously schools haven't

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changed since then.
There's been no funding since.

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But that that stuff, we got all
the apparatus out of the big

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apparatus.
Yeah.

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How?
How did they find it?

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Because it might be their first.
Time.

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They absolutely loved it.
They done in year three.

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And to be honest with you, we
all know how, how often we

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should be using that stuff all
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Gymnastics.
And we've actually got training

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coming up centred around that
and gymnastics in general and

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moving towards as close to 100%
movement.

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And children doing stuff in the
lesson as possible.

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Because I don't know about you
at the minute, obviously I'm not

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a specialist.
We talked about this a million

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times.
I teach PE because it's part of

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the curriculum, but I know that
I'm not a specialist in the same

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way where I can interpret A
maths curriculum or an English

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curriculum.
So when it comes to doing

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gymnastics, I spend a lot of my
time I feel like talking to them

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and giving them instructions on
what to do and the reason why

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this son was absolutely
fantastic.

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So it's got their fluff in my
mouth stuff.

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I mean everyone, everyone
listening.

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Ohh, no, come on microphone.
Ohh.

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This is this attractive look.
Look at that.

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Carry on.
Yeah.

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I can't talk properly.
I've got fluff.

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Not not not cutting out, Just
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No.
Definitely not, no.

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But let's we're lazy now, we're
not cut anything.

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Anyway, this lesson was, I
thought it was fantastic because

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we just simply set up some kind
of carousel and we applied what

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we've been learning, which were
balances, different points and

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practises touching the floor
just to the equipment and they

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absolutely loved it.
And I think what you mentioned

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was a really good thing to start
off with.

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The first time this year we've
got on the equipment during gym

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in inside and I kind of just
laid down the rules on how to be

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safe and let them explore it and
just let them have a go and just

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do almost whatever they wanted
within the confines of being

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safe obviously.
And that's the kind of thing I

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still remember from primary
school doing that.

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So I love the idea of giving
them that that memory.

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And it's nice that they've got
you a sort of a young really

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physically fit and healthy
teacher as well who can also do

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sports right and and not injure
themselves and and generally

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just just model, you know how to
be super flexible fit, right.

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That's yeah, yeah, right.
So two things, number one.

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Number one, do more sport than
you #2.

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Not competition, ohh.
It's just the criticism of you.

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Yeah, I I play football.
I think I've spoken about in the

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podcast before, play Five Side
and I've just started going back

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again.
Now Rory's a bit more into

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routine at the evening, so I've
been back.

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Going back to football's first
time.

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I went back to football,
completely tore my quad, like

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honestly, just just heard it
pop.

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Then.
Then it felt OK like I couldn't

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do much in it, that that game.
But over the week it felt fine,

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like it had healed.
It was just maybe, maybe I

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hadn't torn it, maybe I'd just
like stretched it a bit.

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But it feels like, OK now.
Yeah, I went back for the second

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time 10 times worse within 5
minutes.

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So I was walking around the
pitch, like ruined the game for

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everyone.
Like 5 minutes in, one person

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can't run, so it's like, cool.
It's 45, basically.

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So completely ruined the game.
Had another like two or three

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weeks off and I was like, you
know what it does?

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It feels great.
I'm gonna, I'm just gonna go and

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play within 5 minutes of my
third game.

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Pop.
Couldn't do anything, can't kick

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with my right leg and only this
morning which friend contacts

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for everyone.
We're recording like three days

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after football.
I kind of just looked down at my

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leg and I was like wow, that's
muscular.

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And I looked at the other one
and it was nowhere near as big.

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And I was like, ohh, that's not
that's not muscular, that's a

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tear in my quad.
Yeah.

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No.
Well well, well.

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As much as I enjoy rinsing you,
I'm.

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I'm gonna be up a little bit as
well because you have stuck.

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Also Speaking of fitness, you've
stuck to your diet that you set

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yourself January 1st, just
standing up.

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You carry on talking, mate.
He's stuck to his diet.

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Dylan has lost two stone as of
this week. 2 stone.

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We're very proud of you.
Carry on camera.

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You're not watching that really
missing out magic quads.

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But yeah, two stone.
Well done.

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I am.
You know, as much as I'd like

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rinsing.
You jealous?

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I'm.
I'm proud.

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I'm impressed, Not jealous.
OK, yeah, I am a little bit.

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But it's fine.
But you know they won't.

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You shake it.
And I felt like it should be.

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I feel like you know, without me
as your guiding light, though,

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you wouldn't have achieved this,
You know, Basically you owe all

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of your probably in all areas of
life, You owe your success to

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me, I think.
I I reckon.

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So let's make this about me.
Well done for doing your diet

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with my guidance and keeping you
on the.

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Guidance.
Do you mean constantly telling

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me how I'm going to fail in the
next?

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Week times up With this bit,
times move on.

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Anyway, can I tell you one story
about my week?

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I I heard you had.
I've heard again.

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I don't know what this story is,
but I've heard it's an amazing

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story.
So I really wanna.

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Hear I've been buzzing to tell
you this.

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Right.
OK.

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So this week I've got used to
anyone I've contemplated for the

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context of this.
I'll teach you six.

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OK.
And I was doing an English

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lesson and at this part of our
system of English lesson is our

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structure.
Sorry.

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Once they're in their dating
war, which is you know the the

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most boring pointless waste of
time ever, we usually put

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something on the on the board to
keep some of the quicker

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finishes busy just for looking
an extra minute.

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And it was just 7 pictures and
the pictures related to words

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that were that were spelt with
silent letters because we've

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been doing that in our spellings
recently.

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So just clues and it was okay
travel go.

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It's working them out.
Spell the seven.

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Words And what do you mean?
Like there's a picture of the

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word.
Is that what you're saying?

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It's not like there's a picture
of like an autumnal tree.

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So that's a guess that autumn.
And that's a guess of it.

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So one of the pictures was of a
like a baby car, a cartoon baby

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cow, right.
And and working around the costs

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that one like a see a few people
like ohh I don't know that one

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is.
And one of the kids said why why

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is that?
I was baby cow.

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Like yeah but what what is a
baby cow called.

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I can't remember it was a baby
cow And they're all like

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scratching their heads.
It was a baby cow.

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I was thinking come on guys baby
cow.

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Everyone knows that one of the
kids was like, ohh, I think I

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know it's a kid.
I was like, ohh, not you in the,

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you know, well done for getting
a baby animal.

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But not that's not a baby cow.
And and then as I was sort of

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saying this one one of the other
boys in the class, he was being

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super the name of this.
OK He wasn't trying to be funny.

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He put his hand up.
But ohh, I know what it is.

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It's it's a MILF this season.
It's a MILF miss.

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It's a MILF.
Milk missus Evans.

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A baby cow is called a MILF.
It's a MILF isn't it?

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It's a MILF.
It's a MILF I think.

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And he was just shouting
something like he was so happy

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because he thought he'd worked
out and no one else could.

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And he thought he thought it was
called a MILF.

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The baby cow is not a MILF and
obviously like it, I sort of

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smirked and then but it quickly
dawned on me that I I can't, I

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can't say no that that's a MILF,
isn't that.

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It's this Cause obviously MILF
is a rude acronym.

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Go look it up if you don't know
what a MILF is for some reason

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and and he was yeah I I thought
to myself is he is he taking the

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Mick is he trying to be funny
And and he was not.

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I couldn't wholeheartedly say.
But he absolutely just thought

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that's what a baby cow was
called, I think.

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He was confusing male kids.
This is a male.

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I think he was confusing milk
and calf and he got some milk

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somehow.
Ohh, man.

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And then, but then obviously,
how do you, what do you do in

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that situation?
Because there's me thinking,

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that's hilarious, like, that's
objectively really funny that

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you've done that.
But I can't, you know?

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So I sort of laughed a bit.
I was like, no, no, come on,

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mate, come on.
No, let's stop.

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Let's not a MILF.
It's a car.

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Guys in the car And then some of
the other kids.

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What?
So what's a MILF?

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Then?
We'll talk about it because

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actually, it's a calf.
A calf is the keyword.

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Let's move on.
And you just think, Oh my God,

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this could have descended into
something.

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Terrible ohh Racked my God.
From now on island so funny.

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Yeah, we've got, you know, we've
got a hoot of owls from a

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previous episode in a collective
noun for owls.

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And now we've got a baby cow,
which we all know is called a

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MILF.
Word of mouth.

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Heard of MILFS?
Ohh, that's not good.

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That is yeah, it just ohh
cracked me up.

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It was absolute highlight.
Oh my

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Sophie is absolutely fantastic.
Anyone who hasn't listened to

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our first episode of Sophie, it
is at the top, if not second,

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our most listened to episode so
far.

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We talked all about shared
parental leave and because at

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the time Sophie was benefiting
from that being on maternity

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leave and getting paid the full
amount.

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So please do go and listen to
that first if you haven't.

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And we thought, well OK,
fantastic guest, let's get her

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back.
She's now got her boy who's 18

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months old, she's returned to
work.

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So this episode we're going to
talk all about parenting, so

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everything to do with the return
to work, how tricky it can be,

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raising a child as a teacher,
how that can affect things.

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And then Hayden, next week we're
gonna dive into something I

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think you're very interested in
currently, which is what?

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So next next week the second
part of I guess we're two parter

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ohh second part of this of this
chat with Sophie is all about

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the Sats.
Sophie you know is is an expert

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when it comes to the key stage
two Sachi knows a hell of a lot

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about it and has done a written
lots of analysis itself and all

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sorts of things.
So we we dive into a

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conversation about the Sats and
opinions on the Sats and all

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Sats questions you can think of.
So you gotta stick around for

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for next week's episode as well
to get the full experience of

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our chat with the amazing Sophie
Bartlett.

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Hello Sophie.
How you doing?

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I'm good.
Thank you.

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How are you both?
I'm so good and I think I speak

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for Hayden for this whole
podcast.

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When I say I'll just chat.
Ohh please do watch.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is just
normal.

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I'll be like.
I'm just the admin guy.

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I'm just here just making sure
it's alright.

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Although not very good at that
normally cause I Sophie won't

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know this but we had we did an
episode with Jane Considine and

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Heather Wright in the past and
it was it is like you know

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everyone has like a nightmare
memory of just something and uh

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when we when we recorded that
episode I didn't press record

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for the 1st 45.
Minutes of conversation.

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And I realised 45 minutes in.
Have you heard the end of that

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yet or is that just still?
No, no, no, no, no, no, not

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really.
And even then, when he said when

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we recorded the episode, I was
gonna jump in and say what do

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you mean?
Because you didn't.

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Ohh.
Anyway, so but we're recording

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this time.
Yeah, and you.

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Need the important stuff to
Dylan, then?

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Exactly I am.
Here.

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So I'm gonna I'm gonna lead the
conversation into actually our

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guest speaking Hayden, so you
can be quiet for a second.

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Sophie last time we chatted we
spoke all about I'm staying

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positive was like the vibe and
just teaching in general.

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We were going through the whole
strike palava back then and a

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big thing yeah was parenthood.
And you know we were on the

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route, on route to becoming
parents.

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We are now parents, both paid
and I have you found.

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Club.
Yeah, I know.

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Have you found it?
Like what's it been like?

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Because I know you've returned
to work, and that's a big step,

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isn't it?
Crazy craziest one, I think I'm

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gonna be honest I have many a
time considered whether this is

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the right career but I am only
two terms in so so so I realise

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there's a lot of up and downs.
Yeah, but been persuaded back

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many times.
It's definitely the right

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career.
It's just, you know, in in your

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dips and you think, Oh my
goodness, the amount of work

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that it can be and the amount of
guilt.

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Because you as a parent, you
have this whole other layer of

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guilt of parent guilt on top of
teacher guilt because it's

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always guilt surrounding
whenever there are children.

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Um, so yeah, it's been it was a
rocky start.

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It was really hard to get into
the swing of things.

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Had to completely relearn a way
of life really, especially being

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a job share which is so hard.
Lots of pros.

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But also found it really
difficult to just not be and

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completely controls which is out
by nature.

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But luckily my job shows
absolutely brilliant and a good

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friend anyway, so that really,
really helps.

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But yeah, just it difficult.
I'm gonna be honest really

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difficult but I'm slowly, slowly
getting back into the swing of

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things and school is like my
safe space.

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So if I'm having a hard time at
home or not sleeping, which is

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most of the time just going to
school actually, I actually just

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feel like relaxed that I know
what I'm doing here.

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This is great.
I can have fun and then go back

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home to the chaos.
So you said to you, you said you

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you sort of doubted whether this
was the career for this.

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What what?
What were those positives that

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you found?
Just asking for a mate.

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Just asking for mate.
What were, Yeah.

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What was it exactly, precisely
about the job that you found

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that was OK when when coming
back as a parent?

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Just unrelated to me, but.
Honestly the kids, it's always

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the kids.
The kids just being in the

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classroom and the kids it's it's
just is the stress isn't it, of

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everything else that just gets
to you.

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But I always, yeah, always come
back to the classroom door is

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shut.
No one's necessarily watching.

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There's no learning walks.
You got no stress with staff

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meetings or parent meetings.
It's you and the kids and you're

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chatting rubbish about.
Well, hopefully not rubbish but

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you know you're you're
delivering.

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Your lesson is carefully planned
not because you've had no sleep.

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Yeah, a bit rubbish that that.
There's the joy in that, isn't

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it.
That's what I really like.

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And of course the the bonus of
having the school holidays,

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especially when our little ones
start actually going to school.

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That is going to be a huge
although I will tell you now

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that the real genius thing I
have at the moment is a lot of

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my mum friends are going on term
time holidays to really nice

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places because the our kids
aren't at school yet.

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00:19:42,930 --> 00:19:45,360
And I'm thinking This is why
this isn't the job for me.

453
00:19:45,370 --> 00:19:48,160
But obviously it will be.
It will be my turn soon when

454
00:19:48,170 --> 00:19:50,310
they when they have to get
childcare in holidays and we

455
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,860
don't, so there we go.
This is exactly that.

456
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:53,320
Yeah.
Yeah.

457
00:19:53,330 --> 00:19:54,590
Yeah.
Ohh, amazing.

458
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,980
We've got all that to come.
Obviously.

459
00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:58,260
We're really early in that in
that journey.

460
00:19:58,270 --> 00:20:00,480
And I suppose for us it's been a
different part of the journey.

461
00:20:00,490 --> 00:20:04,160
Like, we obviously went back to
work kind of immediately.

462
00:20:04,170 --> 00:20:05,750
I forget that we even had time
off.

463
00:20:05,820 --> 00:20:07,670
Which is obviously very
different experience as opposed

464
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,430
to to what?
You don't know how you because

465
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,660
how long did you both have?
Was it just two weeks or did you

466
00:20:11,670 --> 00:20:14,120
work out a bit more time?
It it worked out more, didn't

467
00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:16,220
Hayden.
I know with my one I went.

468
00:20:16,270 --> 00:20:21,670
I technically had two weeks off
before half time and where we

469
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,670
are job shares it.
It did actually work out like we

470
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,200
almost I almost had a calendar
month off and Haydens I think

471
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,390
pretty much over Christmas
three.

472
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,870
Well yeah, it was like 3 1/2
weeks that we managed to get off

473
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,300
because I also had a day off at
one random one beforehand as

474
00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:37,930
well.
But it just so happened that we

475
00:20:37,940 --> 00:20:42,050
had a month off.
But it like it felt like and

476
00:20:42,060 --> 00:20:44,730
Sophie, I don't know how you
felt after you had your boy for

477
00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:48,010
the first time that first like 4
to 8 weeks right?

478
00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:52,250
Both felt like the most
draining, long, horrendous,

479
00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:55,690
sleep deprived, horrible.
Two months of my life while

480
00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:59,080
simultaneously being the
absolute best Wiz went past

481
00:20:59,090 --> 00:21:02,020
really quick, out of nowhere.
Like I don't looking back, it's

482
00:21:02,030 --> 00:21:05,020
so crazy.
It's it's mental.

483
00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:07,180
Someone said to me on the day
that parenthood is full of,

484
00:21:07,570 --> 00:21:11,730
what's the word, conflicting
emotions of I really want some

485
00:21:11,740 --> 00:21:13,100
space and I want to be on my
own.

486
00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:14,740
And also I never want to leave
my child.

487
00:21:14,750 --> 00:21:16,260
I want my child to only be with
me.

488
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:19,000
That kind of thing or this time
is going so slow.

489
00:21:19,010 --> 00:21:20,280
Why are these minutes not
passing out?

490
00:21:20,290 --> 00:21:22,720
Oh my God, I've just had three
weeks and he's grown so much and

491
00:21:23,130 --> 00:21:26,720
it's just constantly a battle
like that And I just can't

492
00:21:26,730 --> 00:21:28,690
believe, you know you said you
both had about 3 weeks but

493
00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:30,980
that's no time at all to then
leave your baby.

494
00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:31,780
I know.
Obviously.

495
00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:33,340
No.
I'm assuming your partners have

496
00:21:33,490 --> 00:21:37,000
longer, but still for the dad
that's it's just mental.

497
00:21:37,010 --> 00:21:38,870
I think my partner went back
after four weeks and it just

498
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,130
feels like nothing.
Well, to our partners are both

499
00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:44,140
still at the moment.
Yeah, how would you want to?

500
00:21:44,990 --> 00:21:47,360
So my mind's four months
yesterday.

501
00:21:47,530 --> 00:21:49,710
And Dylan?
5-5 months and a week.

502
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,820
I think there's five or six
weeks between mine and your

503
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:53,280
tailor.
So yeah, yeah.

504
00:21:53,290 --> 00:21:58,160
But but I tell you what again,
I'm at the point now where I it

505
00:21:58,170 --> 00:22:00,640
is such a different phase than
newborn face.

506
00:22:00,650 --> 00:22:03,240
Like they are completely
different when because when Roy

507
00:22:03,250 --> 00:22:06,280
was a newborn, river a newborn,
they they felt like a little

508
00:22:06,290 --> 00:22:08,350
potato, you know and it was just
like they kind of just.

509
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:10,420
Went and they.
Yeah, they looked like one.

510
00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:12,640
They felt like one.
They they, like looked like

511
00:22:12,650 --> 00:22:14,780
looked at you like a potato
would look at you just through.

512
00:22:14,790 --> 00:22:16,370
You even notice.
Yeah.

513
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:21,070
And and now I think he's way
more close to what he will look

514
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,190
like as a toddler than he was a
newborn already.

515
00:22:23,550 --> 00:22:27,530
And seeing that change, like, I
don't know every two weeks it

516
00:22:27,540 --> 00:22:29,690
feels like I've got a new baby.
It's it's crazy.

517
00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:33,190
And obviously yours is your your
boys 1 1/2 now like do do you

518
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,450
still feel like that incremental
jump of like, ohh, it's

519
00:22:36,460 --> 00:22:37,290
changing.
It's changing.

520
00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:38,990
It's changing.
Or are you feel like you're in

521
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,570
that like toddler phasia?
And it's still changing, so much

522
00:22:42,580 --> 00:22:46,690
less so in looks and skills as
much because you know walking

523
00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:49,610
and it's, it's done all kind of
the main physical things.

524
00:22:49,660 --> 00:22:52,460
But this speed, I can't wait for
you to get to this stage because

525
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:53,680
it's fascinating to watch the
speed.

526
00:22:53,690 --> 00:22:56,230
They pick up language.
Like when he said his first

527
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,410
word, that was great.
And then suddenly within a few

528
00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:02,870
weeks he was saying so many
words like where's this all come

529
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,950
from and they start copying
everything you're saying.

530
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,620
Which is when I was like, I've
got to stop swearing now cause I

531
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:09,600
swear way too much around it
needs to stop because they copy

532
00:23:09,610 --> 00:23:13,380
everything, but you can't
believe the things they clearly

533
00:23:13,390 --> 00:23:15,950
pick up and suddenly they'll do
something or say something.

534
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,710
Where does that come from?
And so he's kind of, yeah, he's

535
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,730
settled into his looks a little
bit, so that doesn't really

536
00:23:20,740 --> 00:23:22,450
change as much.
But the speed in which they pick

537
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:25,340
up things is fascinating.
It's so interesting to watch.

538
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:26,880
Yeah, it is.
It is nuts.

539
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:28,420
Well, I had one question for
you.

540
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:32,780
So I know a lot of people they
talk about obviously when you go

541
00:23:32,790 --> 00:23:34,880
back to work, we've we've kind
of talked about the difference

542
00:23:34,890 --> 00:23:36,950
between dad and mum.
It's very different when a mum

543
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,520
goes back to work though.
I think it's like it's almost

544
00:23:39,530 --> 00:23:43,420
like that final leap because now
I suppose your your husband's

545
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:45,980
working away you mentioned and
it's obviously back at his job.

546
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:49,320
You're back at the job now and
although it's hard for Hayden

547
00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:52,260
and I to go back so quickly at
least we did have that kind of

548
00:23:52,330 --> 00:23:55,540
at home mums at home.
We can come back take the load

549
00:23:55,550 --> 00:23:58,680
and share it.
How how difficult was it for you

550
00:23:58,730 --> 00:24:01,240
going back to work?
We know teaching itself is a

551
00:24:01,250 --> 00:24:05,040
tricky job but how how did you
find that kind of, for me, a

552
00:24:05,050 --> 00:24:07,500
huge transition then to both
parents working.

553
00:24:07,550 --> 00:24:09,740
Do you, you know, do you rely on
childcare?

554
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:11,180
Do do you?
Are you lucky enough to have

555
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:13,930
family who can join in?
And just in general, how was

556
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:16,780
that for you and Rory?
You know, like that separation.

557
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,690
And it was, well, they, it takes
a village as they say, and

558
00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:24,570
luckily I do have a village.
My parents are amazing and they

559
00:24:24,580 --> 00:24:27,910
help out a lot.
So Rory goes to nursery and my

560
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,810
parents have him for one day.
So that's been incredible.

561
00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:32,910
But what has been particularly
hard with my situation is my

562
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,470
husband, because he's a pilot,
he's got no set schedule and

563
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,880
he's on call a lot of the time
and is away last minute.

564
00:24:39,630 --> 00:24:43,570
And we fell into the cycle that
my, I did antenatal classes

565
00:24:43,580 --> 00:24:46,830
before and the teacher said you
are going to have this argument.

566
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,740
So I'm preparing for it,
preparing you for it.

567
00:24:48,750 --> 00:24:51,960
Now of who is the most tired and
just be prepared.

568
00:24:51,970 --> 00:24:55,380
You are gonna argue about it and
no one wins, even though I

569
00:24:55,390 --> 00:24:57,480
always think I am the most side.
There's no way.

570
00:24:57,530 --> 00:25:00,660
So of course we fell into that
cycle of who is the most tired

571
00:25:00,670 --> 00:25:01,750
and you get into that
conversation.

572
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,880
It doesn't end ever end well.
But yeah, I think it was really

573
00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:08,860
hard to begin with, kind of got
into a rhythm now.

574
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:10,660
What was particularly difficult
is I'm actually still

575
00:25:10,670 --> 00:25:12,240
breastfeeding.
I was obviously still

576
00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:13,440
breastfeeding, went back to
work.

577
00:25:13,450 --> 00:25:17,090
So that was interesting because
there are rules around that,

578
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,750
like you should have a place to
pump in a workplace and some

579
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,320
schools aren't, especially my
school so tiny and no one's

580
00:25:23,330 --> 00:25:26,730
really done that before.
It's like all new territory of

581
00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:28,430
ohh, I was supposed to have a
place to pump that isn't the

582
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,240
toilet and it's really hard to
broach those things.

583
00:25:31,250 --> 00:25:34,820
But yeah, we've settled into it
now and I'm in a routine with

584
00:25:34,830 --> 00:25:38,310
that and her boys in a routine
with childcare, so all fine, but

585
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,810
obviously it took us a while to
get there.

586
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:41,700
You just have to be so
organised.

587
00:25:41,710 --> 00:25:43,810
Don't you like being a teacher,
You have to be organised anyway.

588
00:25:43,820 --> 00:25:46,610
And I find I'm not that
organised, but it did.

589
00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:48,490
But whatever.
The amount of organisation that

590
00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:51,870
I have is already taking up,
like all of my brain, yeah,

591
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,150
teaching I find.
So I I just can't, I can't

592
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,790
actually imagine being you or
being being, you know, a a woman

593
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,240
that's breastfeeding as well and
having to pump and trying to

594
00:26:00,250 --> 00:26:02,780
organise all of that part of
their life on top of Ohh.

595
00:26:02,790 --> 00:26:05,140
By the way, you got these 32
kids to organise in your job and

596
00:26:05,150 --> 00:26:07,120
whatever other responsibilities
you have.

597
00:26:07,130 --> 00:26:09,270
So it must, yeah.
It's just it's a stressful

598
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,620
experience.
I imagine, you know, you can see

599
00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:14,480
why people do leave the career
and tries to go for other things

600
00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:16,910
because that's a lot to take on.
Yeah.

601
00:26:16,970 --> 00:26:19,900
Yeah.
So now that you're finding a bit

602
00:26:19,910 --> 00:26:25,170
of a balance, I suppose, like,
do you have any, I'm imagining

603
00:26:25,180 --> 00:26:27,250
we've got some business out
there that that are maybe in a

604
00:26:27,260 --> 00:26:29,790
similar boat or thinking about
becoming, you know, getting into

605
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,570
similar boat.
Do you have any, like advice for

606
00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:35,350
people going back to work?
Like how do you manage that

607
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:36,570
stress?
Because it's not going to not be

608
00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:37,850
stressful.
How?

609
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:41,750
Found a bit of a, you know, a
balanced approach or what do you

610
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,690
do?
I think it's been what was

611
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:47,050
particularly helpful for me is
every other teacher at my

612
00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:48,530
school.
This is not loads of teachers

613
00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:51,650
are all mums and they've all
been through the scenario of

614
00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:54,390
going off work, going back part
time, having job shares.

615
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,590
So there was four or five women
at my school that I could talk

616
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,370
to about that situation.
But if you don't have that,

617
00:27:00,380 --> 00:27:02,570
especially if you're teaching
staff is a little bit younger

618
00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:04,230
and no one's maybe gone through
that yet.

619
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:07,750
And obviously I'm gonna advocate
speaking on Twitter about it and

620
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,860
and getting advice from other
people that have gone through it

621
00:27:09,870 --> 00:27:12,950
because hearing I had no idea
how to do a job share.

622
00:27:13,780 --> 00:27:16,230
Like there was what I wanted to
do, and then what was right for

623
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,230
the children and what was right
for my job there as well.

624
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,470
So just finding out different
ways of splitting the workload

625
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,270
and making sure that I wasn't
taking on too much, that

626
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,730
actually I'm teaching three
days, I shouldn't be doing more

627
00:27:26,740 --> 00:27:29,370
than XYZ.
Yeah and saying for my job share

628
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,540
so yeah that'll be the main
thing is just speaking to people

629
00:27:32,550 --> 00:27:35,490
have done it before because it's
a whole new world of working.

630
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,870
And I don't know if you 2 have
found this but I found

631
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,950
previously I had no cut off
point.

632
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,910
I would just work until the work
was done which is so unhealthy.

633
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,210
Whereas now you have no choice
you have to cut off at whatever

634
00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:50,290
time and if it's not done,
tough, which is which is good.

635
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:52,850
It's a healthy way of working.
But I was not used to that so I

636
00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:55,210
had to work out really what
other priorities when I'm

637
00:27:55,220 --> 00:27:58,850
planning or marking or doing all
this add in and kind of sack the

638
00:27:58,860 --> 00:28:01,060
rest of it off.
So this is really it.

639
00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:02,760
Really is like talking to Dylan
again.

640
00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:06,260
So yeah, yeah.
You do have a very, very similar

641
00:28:06,270 --> 00:28:07,510
mindset.
Yeah, right.

642
00:28:08,250 --> 00:28:09,150
Well, I wanted to.
I'm trying.

643
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,130
To get trying to get.
There, yeah, I.

644
00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:13,750
Did want to jump in on it though
because Taylor and I have this

645
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,960
conversation all of the time.
So even before we had our

646
00:28:16,970 --> 00:28:20,130
children, I was very much
methodically moving towards that

647
00:28:20,140 --> 00:28:22,160
mindset that you're describing
now because I was just thinking,

648
00:28:22,170 --> 00:28:26,760
OK as an ECT we would plough
honestly 6-7 hours of a

649
00:28:26,770 --> 00:28:29,560
Saturday, planning and making
like what we thought were the

650
00:28:29,570 --> 00:28:32,500
best mass resources ever.
Looking back, they are as good

651
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:34,410
as what I can make now.
In half an hour, genuinely,

652
00:28:34,420 --> 00:28:36,820
yeah, I was.
I was moving towards that anyway

653
00:28:36,890 --> 00:28:41,360
and then when we had our baby, I
was I, you know, you just, I I

654
00:28:41,370 --> 00:28:44,450
made a decision that it was not
going to do any work outside of

655
00:28:44,460 --> 00:28:48,240
school time and and that wasn't
like me being flippant or me not

656
00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:50,980
taking my job seriously.
That was me saying that if I

657
00:28:50,990 --> 00:28:55,720
can't get it done between half
seven and 4:45, five o'clock on

658
00:28:55,730 --> 00:28:58,400
my 3 days, so we can talk about
job, share a bit more detail in

659
00:28:58,410 --> 00:29:00,280
a minute, something I'm really
interested in chatting to you

660
00:29:00,290 --> 00:29:02,100
about.
But if I can't do that in my

661
00:29:02,110 --> 00:29:05,600
time, then it is an unreasonable
ask what's being asked of me.

662
00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:09,870
And having like an open dialogue
with SLT about like the

663
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,170
expectations and explaining why
maybe something hasn't been done

664
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,190
is a really big leap for a lot
of people.

665
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,890
And I know a lot, a lot of
teachers and colleagues who

666
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,870
would sooner put themselves
through a really stressful like

667
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,870
situation without speaking about
it.

668
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,530
Getting work done when they
simply don't have time to and

669
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:28,990
like running themselves down
then having like almost not.

670
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,450
I don't wanna say the bravery
but almost the the just the just

671
00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:35,030
to say you know what, this is
unacceptable.

672
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,570
So do you do you think, did it
take you having Rory for you to

673
00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:41,460
get there or were you kind of
edging towards it anyway?

674
00:29:42,510 --> 00:29:45,940
No, it took Rory.
I think I knew rationally that I

675
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:48,820
should have a cut off point and
my husband was always telling me

676
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:50,220
you're doing too much, you're
doing too much.

677
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:51,790
But in my mind it would always
be.

678
00:29:51,910 --> 00:29:54,540
But if I do 15 minutes I can
plan more for that child and if

679
00:29:54,550 --> 00:29:57,680
I do that I can do that for this
person and all the SCN need this

680
00:29:57,690 --> 00:29:59,710
and I could do a little bit, you
know, there's always in teaching

681
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,730
something else but then there's
only 24 hours in a day and you

682
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:05,820
need to sleep and relax.
So where where do you cut off?

683
00:30:05,910 --> 00:30:09,600
And because this has forced me
to do it rather than me, like I

684
00:30:09,610 --> 00:30:12,380
can't have the guilt about it
because I, you know, I have to

685
00:30:12,390 --> 00:30:14,820
prioritise a child and I think
anyone would agree with that.

686
00:30:14,910 --> 00:30:18,380
So yeah, I was definitely forced
into it rather than choosing to

687
00:30:18,390 --> 00:30:20,760
before, but I'm glad it's made
me do that because I think it's

688
00:30:20,770 --> 00:30:22,720
made me a better teacher,
really, in the long run.

689
00:30:23,730 --> 00:30:25,420
That's interesting that.
Kind of leads I've got.

690
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:27,640
I've got a two pronged question
for you and me and Dylan have a

691
00:30:27,650 --> 00:30:29,520
good old chat about this other
day We like we got our Sophie.

692
00:30:29,530 --> 00:30:30,900
We've got our Sophie.
OK.

693
00:30:31,410 --> 00:30:34,660
So the two parts of this
question are, do do you think

694
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:39,950
being a teacher is going to
impact how you parent and it's

695
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,970
kind of the vice versa to think
about the same time, do you

696
00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:46,430
think being a parent now is
going to impact how you teach?

697
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,340
And then the kind of summary
question is which one do you

698
00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:50,120
think will have you know which
way around is going to have the

699
00:30:50,130 --> 00:30:51,700
bigger impact?
OK, I'm gonna.

700
00:30:51,710 --> 00:30:54,980
Go back cause actually I was
talking to my friend the other

701
00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:59,260
day about the second bit.
So being I think being a parent

702
00:30:59,450 --> 00:31:03,100
has massively impacted me being
a teacher in a good way.

703
00:31:03,510 --> 00:31:06,640
But I feel like it's a bit of a
taboo thing to talk about

704
00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:11,100
because it's come up on social
media before and you've before

705
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:13,440
having a a baby.
Anytime someone would talk about

706
00:31:13,450 --> 00:31:14,860
it, I think that's really
patronising.

707
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:18,160
I know that I'm a good teacher
and I've not got a child, but

708
00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:20,300
it's like when you have a child
a different part of your brain

709
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:21,940
open up.
You can't possibly access to it

710
00:31:21,950 --> 00:31:24,650
until you're a parent and ohh my
gosh just see everything

711
00:31:24,660 --> 00:31:28,310
differently.
And I see my class as thirty

712
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,510
children that are loved
hopefully as much as I love my

713
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,910
child and the mean as much other
people as they.

714
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,690
So almost see like 30 worries in
front of me, which if anything

715
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,390
makes the pressure like 1000
times worse.

716
00:31:39,620 --> 00:31:44,300
But I think my my behaviour,
management and the way that I

717
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:46,900
view discipline is completely
transformed.

718
00:31:46,910 --> 00:31:50,440
I think I was not a no excuses
person, nothing like that.

719
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:54,700
But I was very, I was much more
sort of hard line and now I see

720
00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:57,660
a lot more of the wire children
behaving like that.

721
00:31:57,670 --> 00:32:01,810
And I said no, it's just it's so
it's made by the way I view

722
00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:04,920
teaching much more complicated,
but I think I'm much more sort

723
00:32:04,930 --> 00:32:11,010
of compassionate and empathetic
and especially parents evenings.

724
00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:13,570
I think the way that I speak to
parents is different and what I

725
00:32:13,580 --> 00:32:16,970
talked about is different.
The second part of your question

726
00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:20,020
of has being a teacher impacted
me being a parent?

727
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,310
I don't know, possibly with.
I mean, I think lots of parents

728
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,090
that know about obviously the
goodness of books and things

729
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,420
like that always read to their
children, but I just feel like

730
00:32:30,430 --> 00:32:34,450
I'm constantly shoving books in
his face and counting Everything

731
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:35,990
Everywhere.
I said to my mum.

732
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,090
Actually, am I doing too much?
Because I'm constantly counting

733
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,940
and naming shapes and naming
colours and I don't know if

734
00:32:39,950 --> 00:32:42,450
that's maybe to his detriment a
little bit because I'm just

735
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:45,330
never not teaching him
something, so don't if that's

736
00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:47,720
maybe a a bad thing, I feel like
I will be.

737
00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:49,930
Exactly the same, by the way.
Yeah, it's just, you know.

738
00:32:49,940 --> 00:32:51,750
Instinct, isn't it?
Because you're teaching all the

739
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,420
time.
But yeah, so I think the the one

740
00:32:54,430 --> 00:32:57,210
that's had the most impact is me
being a parent on being a

741
00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:59,300
teacher.
I do think it's made me a better

742
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:03,820
teacher and I don't feel bad
about saying it because it's

743
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:05,310
true.
So just as a person, just

744
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,940
personally for me, do you think
that came?

745
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:10,840
On quite quickly as in the the
way like being was it after

746
00:33:10,850 --> 00:33:12,960
months of having Roy you were
like this is totally changed my

747
00:33:12,970 --> 00:33:16,600
mindset now on how I teach or do
you think it's come with time or

748
00:33:16,610 --> 00:33:19,440
after like he's hit a certain
age is it kind of unlocked that

749
00:33:19,450 --> 00:33:20,880
bit of your brain?
Yeah.

750
00:33:20,890 --> 00:33:22,750
Did you think it was?
Instant age now.

751
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,730
I think it was a certain age
when he started having the like

752
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:29,570
when he started behaving in a
certain way.

753
00:33:29,650 --> 00:33:33,390
So he's just turned 18 months
and for the last few months

754
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,290
we've entered tantrum territory.
So you know, I've been following

755
00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:39,780
a lot of different parenting and
discipline things on Instagram

756
00:33:39,790 --> 00:33:41,850
and that sort of thing, and
telling you how to deal with

757
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:44,890
tantrums and why their behaviour
is a certain way.

758
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:48,410
I think now we've entered this
phase and I'm sort of looking

759
00:33:48,420 --> 00:33:50,950
ahead, it's made me see
children's behaviour at all

760
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,730
stages from a much different
perspective.

761
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:56,830
So I think when he was a potato
like you were, there wasn't

762
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,470
really much to base my parenting
on.

763
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,030
But now that is the scientific
time by.

764
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,190
The way.
Yeah.

765
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,730
Stage one, Stage 1.
Potato.

766
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:05,490
Yeah, Yeah, Now.
I don't know what this stage

767
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:08,670
should be, but he's a walking,
moving tantrum potatoes, so

768
00:34:08,860 --> 00:34:12,170
that's definitely made.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

769
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,170
And then you can.
Relate it to the the kind of

770
00:34:14,179 --> 00:34:16,790
like potatoes that we we might
teach the the older potatoes

771
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,980
that we might teach at school.
Every child is now obviously a

772
00:34:18,989 --> 00:34:20,570
potato, right?
Yeah, the thing.

773
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:22,670
Is only analogy.
That makes sense, yeah, when you

774
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,020
look at.
Each individual child you've got

775
00:34:24,030 --> 00:34:26,280
the jacket potatoes you've got
the roasties you've got the

776
00:34:26,350 --> 00:34:28,929
groups and they're all they're
all different ways of behaving

777
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,190
and obviously you're you're
Rory.

778
00:34:31,780 --> 00:34:34,679
To kind of move into more
serious point you're Rory's

779
00:34:34,690 --> 00:34:37,860
going to develop a personality
and you know when when we look

780
00:34:37,870 --> 00:34:40,659
at a class now I don't know
about you but I think year to

781
00:34:40,670 --> 00:34:44,260
year I can kind of group kids in
in how they behave and how they

782
00:34:44,270 --> 00:34:47,060
act And I think well they're
they're they're they're the

783
00:34:47,070 --> 00:34:50,000
quiet girls who just we'll just
coast through unless you go

784
00:34:50,010 --> 00:34:51,440
through and do that with them.
Yeah.

785
00:34:51,449 --> 00:34:53,860
Here the boisterous boys who are
popular but they really do

786
00:34:53,870 --> 00:34:56,090
behave themselves and they're
they're really well liked and

787
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:58,860
they they try hard and here's
the group who simply just they

788
00:34:58,870 --> 00:35:01,260
don't put effort in they're more
worried about playing Fortnite

789
00:35:01,270 --> 00:35:04,370
when they get home.
Do you do you think as Rory kind

790
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:08,220
of develops his kind of own
personality are you are you are

791
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:10,730
you are you gonna like develop a
bit of a soft spot for children

792
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:11,880
who are similar to him do you
think?

793
00:35:11,890 --> 00:35:13,940
Or is it?
Is it more a generic thing of

794
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:16,820
Ohh but my Rory does this, but
you know you're you're gonna do

795
00:35:16,830 --> 00:35:20,000
that instead and and I
understand that as well, yeah.

796
00:35:20,070 --> 00:35:23,760
No, I think it's definitely made
me see each child differently

797
00:35:23,770 --> 00:35:26,270
and rather because you do end up
stereotyping them in groups if

798
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,820
people say they don't lie,
because of course you do.

799
00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:32,250
And children get lumped into,
like you say, the sporty ones

800
00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:34,580
and the clever ones.
And we say we don't label them,

801
00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:37,000
but we do.
Yeah, but definitely seeing Rory

802
00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:41,100
develop his personality and I
can almost predict the kind of

803
00:35:41,110 --> 00:35:43,370
child that he's going to be.
And I can tell there are some

804
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:45,780
things he's going to do that are
gonna really annoy his teacher.

805
00:35:46,530 --> 00:35:50,400
But I know why he's doing those
things and it's made me think

806
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,150
are things that have things that
kids have done that I think

807
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,080
that's really annoying.
Now if I was the mum of that

808
00:35:56,090 --> 00:35:59,540
child, I can see you know why
they're behaving like that or

809
00:35:59,550 --> 00:36:02,810
they're but look at all the good
sides to their personality or

810
00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:06,150
yeah, it's it's really tricky.
And actually on a side though,

811
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,630
sorry this is going off tangent
a little bit.

812
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:11,690
I can see so much of me and him,
which is quite interesting now

813
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:14,510
he's got to this age.
I've actually just been referred

814
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,190
for possible ADHD.
So I'm going through that

815
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,470
process and I know that it can
be genetic.

816
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,990
So I'm looking at Rory and I'm
wondering some of the things

817
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,550
that he does because he is on
the go all the time.

818
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,130
I said, I said to my mum the
other day, I'm saying it now if

819
00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:31,360
he is ADHD I will not be
surprised.

820
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,910
Which again makes me see all the
children that have some sort of

821
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,930
new idea legends differently as
well.

822
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:38,350
So it's a whole learning curve.
It almost makes you consider.

823
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,870
It a bit more maybe maybe you
know like like like you said

824
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,810
when your brain kind of opens it
generally for experience as

825
00:36:43,820 --> 00:36:45,500
well, you sort of look at things
differently.

826
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:48,400
You have a new perspective.
But I'm actually maybe that but

827
00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:50,590
that that particular behaviour
was because of this thing which

828
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,600
you may have learned now with
having such a close relationship

829
00:36:53,610 --> 00:36:56,960
with your own child, Sophie,
I've got a quick.

830
00:36:56,970 --> 00:36:59,020
Question.
This is kind of it's related to

831
00:36:59,030 --> 00:37:01,350
we've been talking about when
when Rory gets of a certain age

832
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,480
where he's going to school, what
what are your thoughts on him?

833
00:37:04,530 --> 00:37:07,570
A going to the school you work
at and B being in your class, Do

834
00:37:07,580 --> 00:37:08,810
you have any strong feelings
about that?

835
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:11,790
Because a lot of teacher friends
I've spoken to have seemed to

836
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,550
always have a really strong
opinion on that, whether it's

837
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,640
one way or the other.
I don't see many who don't mind.

838
00:37:15,690 --> 00:37:17,040
Do you have an opinion yet on
that?

839
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:21,470
Haven't really thought about it,
weirdly, but I was in my mum's

840
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,840
class and my mum was a teacher.
She's retired now and there were

841
00:37:24,850 --> 00:37:28,210
pros and cons.
So the pros were obviously the

842
00:37:28,220 --> 00:37:31,910
fact that my mum was there if I
ever needed her and she tried to

843
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,110
enforce me calling her a teacher
name, but it just felt really

844
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,560
unusual.
So I just called her mum.

845
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:38,300
But the cons where she was
actually harsher on me than she

846
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:40,810
was anyone else because she
obviously didn't want any

847
00:37:40,820 --> 00:37:45,780
favouritism to be accused.
And so I do think now think

848
00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:47,460
about it like that.
It would be easier if he wasn't

849
00:37:47,470 --> 00:37:50,320
in my school because someone put
on Facebook the other day, my

850
00:37:50,330 --> 00:37:53,740
child's having issues with this
child and their parent is my

851
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:55,540
colleague because they're in the
same school.

852
00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:57,360
So how on earth do I raise it
with them?

853
00:37:57,370 --> 00:37:59,720
I just think if war is in a
separate school, it's gonna be

854
00:37:59,730 --> 00:38:02,160
so much easier to address any
issues like that, cause I won't

855
00:38:02,170 --> 00:38:04,820
feel that there's potential
conflict between colleagues as

856
00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:06,540
well.
So now.

857
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:07,720
Yeah.
Now you've said that I think

858
00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:09,680
separate school just make it so
many things easier.

859
00:38:09,730 --> 00:38:10,680
Yeah.
Yeah.

860
00:38:10,750 --> 00:38:12,260
I think I'm gonna find.
It that about you?

861
00:38:12,270 --> 00:38:15,500
But I I can imagine I'm gonna
find it so hard going to like

862
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:17,080
parents evenings and things.
Yeah.

863
00:38:17,090 --> 00:38:20,140
And speaking to other teachers,
having being in that world,

864
00:38:20,210 --> 00:38:23,250
because if there's anything that
you remotely don't think is that

865
00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:25,680
good about like a system in the
school or something, yeah.

866
00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:28,330
You're gonna have to.
Be like ohh well this is not

867
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:30,910
really my place because if I
wasn't a teacher I may I maybe

868
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,540
wouldn't know about this.
Yeah, particular.

869
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:34,450
Mass scheme They're.
Using and I'm like ohh yeah

870
00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:36,910
where's the line Is it really
annoying to talk to teachers

871
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,390
parents.
I I feel like I've probably

872
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,290
talked to some but I don't know
like see, I've I've.

873
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:43,930
Had quite a lot of teacher
parents and like they've so far

874
00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:46,250
always been some of the easiest
ones to talk to because they get

875
00:38:46,260 --> 00:38:49,990
it.
But I I had said the other day,

876
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,300
I think then before we go to
school, I'm gonna be hopefully

877
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:55,020
the parent that if he goes on a
trip, I'll make sure you know I

878
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:58,500
get teacher bottle of wine or
I'll send in whatever I know the

879
00:38:58,510 --> 00:39:01,340
teachers will like for Easter,
like biscuits for the staff or

880
00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:02,930
something and mug.
Saying best teacher ever.

881
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:05,950
Obviously, yeah.
Add to add to the ones at the

882
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,150
back of the cupboard.
Yeah, you got exactly.

883
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,560
Pass it on.
So I feel like we'd be in a good

884
00:39:12,570 --> 00:39:15,270
position to show appreciation to
teachers and know what they're

885
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,150
going through.
But on the flip side, like you

886
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,900
say I thought if he's having if
if he's particularly good at

887
00:39:20,970 --> 00:39:24,000
project and he's not being
challenged like ohh you know the

888
00:39:24,010 --> 00:39:26,420
worst thing was when a parent
emails to say well they're bored

889
00:39:26,430 --> 00:39:27,770
and that lesson you're not
challenging them.

890
00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:31,300
But ohh, what if I have to say
that and I don't know if there's

891
00:39:31,310 --> 00:39:33,640
gonna be pros and cons, aren't
there gonna be a big time

892
00:39:33,650 --> 00:39:35,480
because you might you?
Might actually for the first

893
00:39:35,490 --> 00:39:38,420
time, think something that a
parent has said to you in the

894
00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:41,360
past where you're like, ohh,
they don't know the context.

895
00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:44,260
They don't know the context.
And you might be in your full

896
00:39:44,270 --> 00:39:45,910
wisdom.
You might be like, I I know the

897
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,710
parents say this, but I really
do think in this time it's true

898
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,290
and I just happen to be on the
other side.

899
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,780
Yeah, but imagine it's, yeah,
minefield.

900
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:56,370
Minefield we're going to have.
To do Sophie is simply get you

901
00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:58,490
on every 12 months, and we're
just going to talk about every

902
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:00,830
single stage of the journey for
you.

903
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,660
What's?
Coming.

904
00:40:01,850 --> 00:40:03,940
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's,
that's.

905
00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:06,650
The undercover reason here, It's
like, OK, we're taking notes,

906
00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:08,210
like, massively.
Like, what's going on?

907
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,750
I'm gonna call my opinion
through you.

908
00:40:10,420 --> 00:40:12,800
Have you got anyone that's a
year ahead of me because then

909
00:40:12,810 --> 00:40:17,030
they can tell me how it goes,
pass it on, I have it in.

910
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,350
My friend's group we've got.
We've got pretty much every age

911
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,970
from A99 year old or 10 year old
down to what is now a four month

912
00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:29,220
old.
I think so wow spread out you

913
00:40:29,230 --> 00:40:31,220
know and and yeah we are winging
it.

914
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:33,640
I I don't know.
I don't know how you felt when

915
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:37,190
Rory was first born.
It's it's like you we spoke

916
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,220
about a million times before the
the one thing Hayden and I have

917
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:43,390
agreed that we definitely don't
do now is go on to Instagram and

918
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,920
that the algorithm tell us how
to parent.

919
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,000
Because Oh my.
Gosh, like I could go through

920
00:40:48,050 --> 00:40:50,130
three wheels in a row and
Rory's.

921
00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:51,580
My Rory's going through the
phase now.

922
00:40:51,590 --> 00:40:53,570
He's just about to start
weaning, so that's a big

923
00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:54,860
statement.
Go for instance.

924
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:56,930
Food.
And and you go on Instagram,

925
00:40:56,940 --> 00:40:58,750
you're like, yeah, give him,
give him a frozen carrot.

926
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,080
Let him chew in it and then the
next reel will be don't you dare

927
00:41:01,090 --> 00:41:02,760
give them a frozen carrot.
That's awful.

928
00:41:02,770 --> 00:41:03,590
And like what?
What?

929
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,340
What?
Which one is it?

930
00:41:04,350 --> 00:41:06,850
Then it's developed.
Psychological there's the

931
00:41:06,860 --> 00:41:08,430
there's impacts it will have
when they're 10.

932
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,710
This will happen.
Will explode, yeah.

933
00:41:10,780 --> 00:41:13,060
Yeah, mental.
OK, So I think it must be so

934
00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:16,190
much easier to parent When our
parents were doing it because

935
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,090
there was no Internet to, like,
scare you into doing things or

936
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,930
not doing things.
You just followed your instinct,

937
00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:23,490
which is what parenting is.
Have you, have you seen that?

938
00:41:23,570 --> 00:41:26,010
Friend recently that's going
around on Instagram reels and

939
00:41:26,020 --> 00:41:28,350
things that it's like, I know
what you're gonna say.

940
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,910
Already like a child in.
Like their car seat or

941
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,630
something.
It's like me going through every

942
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,690
step thinking of all the things
I need to do to make sure my

943
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:37,090
child is extremely safe.
And then it goes to a picture of

944
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:39,830
me in in 1996.
So it's they're just in a car

945
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,290
seat, like wrapped in four
blankets with a seat belt round

946
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:45,850
their face and on.
And it's just like eating,

947
00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:48,630
right?
So it's brilliant.

948
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,000
Yeah, it's, yeah.
Right.

949
00:41:50,010 --> 00:41:53,200
Ohh Sophie.
Before we go in, Hayden, before

950
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:55,550
we go into chat very quickly, I
did you wanna have anything

951
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,150
about parenting?
So I wanted to move on to

952
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,250
something different just before
we talk about with me or Sophie.

953
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,250
I'm sorry, when I said Hayden, I
meant Hayden.

954
00:42:03,260 --> 00:42:05,190
So Hayden, I see, yeah, I've
got, I've got one.

955
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,040
I've got one more question, one
more question, one more

956
00:42:07,050 --> 00:42:09,130
question.
So I just wanna know really.

957
00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:12,560
Just selfishly nursery Ohh.
Have you?

958
00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:14,720
I I wanna know your opinion on
it because me and Dan have been

959
00:42:14,730 --> 00:42:17,140
going back and forth and talking
with our partners about like do

960
00:42:17,150 --> 00:42:18,780
we do nursery?
OK if we do, when do we do it or

961
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:20,940
maybe we don't do nursery.
Ohh, I don't think nursery is

962
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:23,460
good up to this age.
Do you have any opinions on

963
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,140
nursery?
The the context very.

964
00:42:25,150 --> 00:42:27,260
Quickly, sorry.
The context is we have family,

965
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:30,460
amazingly, who can help us.
So yeah, it would be a choice

966
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:33,780
whether they go in for one day
or two day and like so lucky to

967
00:42:33,790 --> 00:42:35,660
be in that for a year or two.
Nice.

968
00:42:35,710 --> 00:42:38,380
OK, I think.
I mean, what I've heard and what

969
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:41,360
do you think is true, is if
nurseries only one day a week,

970
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,030
If you can avoid it, it's
probably best not to because one

971
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,960
day we isn't quite routine
enough for them to get into the

972
00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:49,190
swing of it.
So we do two days a week, which

973
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,290
is just on the edge.
And I'll be honest, it did take

974
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:53,990
him a few months to settle.
He cried on drop off for a

975
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,290
while, which obviously is
heartbreaking, but you know that

976
00:42:57,540 --> 00:42:59,350
you can't do anything about it.
You just go.

977
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,330
And I think what they say about
Ohh, it helps them develop

978
00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:04,060
social skills.
All that is rubbish because

979
00:43:04,070 --> 00:43:06,350
they're so young.
They get everything they need

980
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,050
from their caregivers until they
go, you know, their age to go to

981
00:43:10,060 --> 00:43:13,380
school.
So it would have to be whether

982
00:43:13,390 --> 00:43:16,390
you felt it was beneficial in
other ways.

983
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,880
I do think he does enjoy it now
and he has access to activities

984
00:43:19,890 --> 00:43:22,060
that I could never sit up at
home, which is a bonus.

985
00:43:22,070 --> 00:43:23,660
Yeah.
So all the amazing things are

986
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:27,930
doing tough trays and like arty
things that I can't be bothered

987
00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:29,890
to clean up if I get you know,
that kind of thing.

988
00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:34,150
That side of it is really good.
But I don't think, I think if

989
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,770
you've got the option of family
looking after them, then why

990
00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:39,810
not.
My, my boy loves spending time

991
00:43:39,820 --> 00:43:42,390
with my parents.
If they could do everyday I

992
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,110
would do that instead if I'm
honest.

993
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,100
Because it's they love it, he
loves it.

994
00:43:46,530 --> 00:43:48,520
It's really interesting.
Mention the social thing that's

995
00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:50,880
one of my biggest worries.
So it's it's quite it's quite

996
00:43:50,890 --> 00:43:53,200
cool to hear someone be like
actually it's it's not that

997
00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:55,730
beneficial because my thing is
ohh I don't want I don't want

998
00:43:55,740 --> 00:43:58,310
her to not be good at
socialising before she goes to

999
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,760
school So we need we need to
send her to nursery for that now

1000
00:44:00,770 --> 00:44:03,750
I don't think.
Again, obviously you read things

1001
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,560
on Instagram and whether they're
true or not, but I think they

1002
00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:08,880
say that's up to like two or
three.

1003
00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:11,580
They only do like parallel
plays, so they don't really

1004
00:44:11,590 --> 00:44:13,250
interrupt each other.
They just play next to each

1005
00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:16,770
other and it's when they start
to get to reception kind of age,

1006
00:44:16,780 --> 00:44:18,290
they start to learn those
skills.

1007
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:21,040
And I mean assuming obviously
they'll go to soft play or

1008
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:23,000
whatever and they'll meet other
children, so they're never gonna

1009
00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:25,150
see children and obviously what
you will see each other, weren't

1010
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,950
they?
I guess So, yes, we have to

1011
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,680
know.
Yeah, had to support.

1012
00:44:29,690 --> 00:44:32,810
Them together.
Yeah, yeah, I I don't think that

1013
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,030
like if kids don't go to nursery
are going to be hugely lacking

1014
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,030
in social skills.
I've read that's just like,

1015
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,410
yeah, not necessary myth, but
really not that important.

1016
00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:43,350
So I've really switched up.
My opinion on that and and one

1017
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,390
of the biggest reasons was I
kind of thought they needed to

1018
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,540
go to nursery socialised for no
reason whatsoever other than it

1019
00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:52,040
just made sense in my head.
I never saw any research like I

1020
00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:54,320
just kind of it like thought
saying inherently.

1021
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:57,400
But ever since I've like looked
it up a little bit or seen reels

1022
00:44:57,410 --> 00:44:59,430
and stuff.
I kind of then like just went

1023
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,500
into myself again and thought,
OK, if I were to look at my year

1024
00:45:02,510 --> 00:45:05,640
four class now or Hayden's year
six class right now, would I be

1025
00:45:05,650 --> 00:45:08,180
able to tell which children went
to nursery for two days or for

1026
00:45:08,190 --> 00:45:09,960
five days a week because of
their social skills?

1027
00:45:09,970 --> 00:45:11,810
And the answer is no.
Because none of them have any

1028
00:45:11,820 --> 00:45:15,690
social skills really.
Like they've been truthfully

1029
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:17,360
honest.
Like if if we do group work,

1030
00:45:17,370 --> 00:45:20,040
there's not one group I could
make in my class of 6 children

1031
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:21,730
where there wouldn't be some
kind of falling out.

1032
00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:24,510
And it's like I I don't think
four days at nursery would have

1033
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,070
solved this problem.
Really.

1034
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,310
So what the only not only this.
Loads of benefits of nursery

1035
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,290
one.
Depends if you say this is a

1036
00:45:31,300 --> 00:45:34,590
benefit.
Rory has been ill pretty

1037
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,060
consistently I since he's been
to nursery.

1038
00:45:38,070 --> 00:45:40,720
I think there might be you're
lucky if you get a week of no

1039
00:45:40,730 --> 00:45:44,550
illness, but then you hear that
those that don't send it to

1040
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,900
nursery, they hit that when they
go to school instead.

1041
00:45:47,170 --> 00:45:49,380
So that's the only thing to
consider.

1042
00:45:49,540 --> 00:45:50,750
Whether that's true or not, I
don't know.

1043
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,020
That's only what I've you know,
heard from people who haven't

1044
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:55,900
done nursery.
But my hope is that once this

1045
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:58,560
kind of flu and cold seasons out
the way, he's got most of the

1046
00:45:58,570 --> 00:46:01,790
illnesses out the way.
So that might be something to

1047
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,180
consider, but chicken pox still
a thing.

1048
00:46:04,070 --> 00:46:04,620
Yeah.
Probably.

1049
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:06,760
You can get a vaccine for it
now, yeah, I was gonna say.

1050
00:46:06,770 --> 00:46:08,880
Like, I don't hear much about
chicken pox parties anymore.

1051
00:46:08,890 --> 00:46:10,280
I I definitely went to one as a
kid.

1052
00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:11,200
That's.
Yeah.

1053
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,110
Inbox parties that they're
they're definitely not a thing

1054
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:17,860
like, just so you know like it.
Wasn't OK Hayden was growing up

1055
00:46:17,870 --> 00:46:19,010
in.
The Victorian times, apparently.

1056
00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:20,950
Anyone listening to this, please
don't.

1057
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,530
Please don't.
Preaching a box parties.

1058
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,890
We want to have children to not
one every week.

1059
00:46:25,420 --> 00:46:27,210
I had loads of chicken pox as a
kid.

1060
00:46:27,220 --> 00:46:29,130
I was like, come on you didn't
know while go on your little

1061
00:46:29,140 --> 00:46:30,460
tight, OK you what?
I tell.

1062
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:32,470
You something that does explain
a lot.

1063
00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:36,170
So anyway, yeah, including the
safety car.

1064
00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:37,960
I've got scar as.
Well, you gotta think about

1065
00:46:37,970 --> 00:46:39,530
SCAR.
There you go, my head.

1066
00:46:39,540 --> 00:46:40,710
We must have been the same
party.

1067
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,220
Dylan, where were you?
I I was at home.

1068
00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:47,770
Not getting chicken pox.
So anyway, before we move on to

1069
00:46:47,780 --> 00:46:50,900
the set, I'm so excited for us
at chat and I know you got a lot

1070
00:46:50,910 --> 00:46:54,080
of work on the SAT, that is.
Yeah, we'll have a little Jingle

1071
00:46:54,090 --> 00:46:55,550
new everything.
I'm gonna do a little song.

1072
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,320
You can't wait.
But I kind of ad Lib one.

1073
00:46:58,330 --> 00:47:01,320
It's just a little chatting
between now and I'm sorry if no

1074
00:47:01,330 --> 00:47:02,700
one wants to talk about this,
but I do.

1075
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:05,320
And I'm sure people at home want
to hear about it as well because

1076
00:47:05,330 --> 00:47:10,320
you spoke very briefly about job
share and you mentioned how you

1077
00:47:10,330 --> 00:47:14,040
had to really quickly change
your kind of your approach to

1078
00:47:14,050 --> 00:47:16,150
the job share.
And and like it's kind of linked

1079
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,810
into cutting yourself off and
saying no, no, I'm three days a

1080
00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:21,610
week, I need to do this or
working with your partner.

1081
00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:24,900
Can you just touch upon how you
found, not only we've talked

1082
00:47:24,910 --> 00:47:27,070
about the transition from being
off on maternity leave for a

1083
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,330
year and then getting back into
teaching, but how how did you

1084
00:47:30,380 --> 00:47:34,550
like manage to get over the fact
that you're not in all week and

1085
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,920
your class who you're so used to
having that journey with them

1086
00:47:37,930 --> 00:47:41,170
throughout the whole year.
It is disjointed now and I think

1087
00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:44,430
what I put to you is a lot of
people say to me, to Hayden, and

1088
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,500
I'm sure to you, that it is
objectively worse to have a job

1089
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:50,700
share if you're a child going to
school for the reasons that

1090
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:54,750
we're just outlined.
I struggle with that because I

1091
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,300
sometimes agree.
Have you found it?

1092
00:47:59,860 --> 00:48:03,630
Yeah, I struggle with it too
because I sometimes agree and my

1093
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,830
someone that I used to work for
never liked job shares and and

1094
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,210
now I can kind of see why.
But there are pros to it as

1095
00:48:12,220 --> 00:48:15,620
well.
I think my job share luckily has

1096
00:48:15,630 --> 00:48:18,810
very different strengths to me
and so she's very sporty and she

1097
00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:22,750
does all the pee and I do more
of the academic stuff that she

1098
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,560
would rather not that she can't
do it she'd just rather do the

1099
00:48:25,570 --> 00:48:26,670
peak.
That's a you know you get

1100
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,690
strengths of both teachers.
I found the handover really

1101
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:32,960
difficult in terms of,
especially if it's pastoral

1102
00:48:32,970 --> 00:48:35,380
issues going on and you know,
you might deal with it in

1103
00:48:35,390 --> 00:48:39,380
slightly different ways.
Yeah, but I think and splitting

1104
00:48:39,390 --> 00:48:42,270
subjects, I don't know how you
guys do it, but that we did

1105
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,540
share the maths and then found
that was far too difficult.

1106
00:48:45,550 --> 00:48:48,080
So we're now doing completely
separate maths with separate

1107
00:48:48,090 --> 00:48:50,580
books.
We did share the writing, we

1108
00:48:50,590 --> 00:48:54,160
found that too difficult.
So we're doing I just do writing

1109
00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:58,780
and she just does grammar.
It's it's we've changed how

1110
00:48:58,790 --> 00:49:00,650
we've done it every single half
term.

1111
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:04,770
Which again I think like the mix
up can be good for the kids

1112
00:49:04,780 --> 00:49:07,150
because you know, you do one
approach and it might not work

1113
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,610
for some of them.
You do another approach and it

1114
00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:11,130
works for others.
But it's definitely kept me on

1115
00:49:11,140 --> 00:49:13,970
my toes trying to constantly
think what's the best way of

1116
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,860
doing this with the time that we
have and with the adults that

1117
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:18,710
we've got.
Because I know, I think you

1118
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,010
think, well they've got three
days of me, two days of my job

1119
00:49:21,020 --> 00:49:23,710
show actually, I've got PA and
she's got PA They have other

1120
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:25,690
adults then as well.
Yeah.

1121
00:49:26,060 --> 00:49:29,060
And it's just kind of when if
you follow the life of a child

1122
00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:31,830
throughout a week in my class,
they see quite a lot of

1123
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,890
different adults that have quite
a lot of different experiences

1124
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:36,730
and behaviour management and all
sorts.

1125
00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:39,370
So yeah, it's it's really
tricky.

1126
00:49:39,380 --> 00:49:41,860
I don't be interesting to see
how you guys balance it clearly

1127
00:49:41,970 --> 00:49:44,710
quite differently maybe to what
I was doing because I seemed.

1128
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,600
Quite shocked me was the
different books thing that you

1129
00:49:46,610 --> 00:49:48,510
said that that's yeah, I think
that was the biggest one.

1130
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,470
And yeah, I suppose as a quick
overview, I mean I can't talk

1131
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,770
for Hayden, but I think we're
quite similar.

1132
00:49:52,780 --> 00:49:56,200
So to Hayden jump in and tell me
anything different in terms of

1133
00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:59,230
our planning.
So we will set up a medium term

1134
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:01,930
plan before every term.
We will map out all of the

1135
00:50:01,940 --> 00:50:04,550
objectives in a row and what in
a sequence we think is best for

1136
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,990
the children.
And then as a matter of fact,

1137
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,140
looking back at the MTP, we'd
say, OK, I will plan this string

1138
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:13,960
of writing lessons because you
know, perhaps the inverted

1139
00:50:13,970 --> 00:50:16,060
commas lesson leads on to the
dialogue lesson leads on to

1140
00:50:16,070 --> 00:50:18,880
their planning lesson.
So I'll plan those three and

1141
00:50:18,890 --> 00:50:20,630
then there's a standalone
reading comprehension.

1142
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,700
So you're going to plan that and
it's on retrieval and we will

1143
00:50:23,710 --> 00:50:27,540
kind of just come to roughly the
right division and it's never,

1144
00:50:27,550 --> 00:50:32,050
it's never far off the division.
It should be based on A the

1145
00:50:32,060 --> 00:50:34,160
amount of work we need to do
because I think that's important

1146
00:50:34,170 --> 00:50:38,190
to stick to and B the best for
the kids and I think that's

1147
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,650
where across the board, whether
it's maths, whether it's

1148
00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:42,710
English.
I think the hardest thing

1149
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:45,970
sometimes is to matching up
what's best for the children

1150
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,630
with what it needs to match with
my contract because it's a job

1151
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,730
and and I think that's where I
don't know how you do what you

1152
00:50:52,740 --> 00:50:55,600
think but I I think it works
really well because I couldn't

1153
00:50:55,610 --> 00:50:57,350
pick a better person to share a
job with.

1154
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,220
I've worked with my job share
beforehand just as two full time

1155
00:51:00,230 --> 00:51:03,510
teachers and she's fantastic and
I can be really blunt with her

1156
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,230
and the best way and say this
this, this by the way that and I

1157
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,930
don't need to spend half an hour
thinking about how I say

1158
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:10,550
something.
You know if if I've done

1159
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,240
something wrong, she tell me and
if she does something wrong I'd

1160
00:51:13,250 --> 00:51:14,970
say ohh.
By the way, miss out on this.

1161
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,660
So that's a really nice sorry
before you go to Hayden.

1162
00:51:18,670 --> 00:51:21,290
Could I just ask out of
interest, are you more

1163
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:23,630
experienced than your job share
or vice versa, do you think,

1164
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,930
Sorry, I'm not.
I'm interviewing you now.

1165
00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:28,210
No, no, come on.
Affected the balance of how and

1166
00:51:28,220 --> 00:51:29,960
for you.
Hey, do you think the amount of

1167
00:51:29,970 --> 00:51:33,090
experience you each have has
affected how you balance things

1168
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,130
Hayden should?
Talk about this, because the

1169
00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:38,770
only difference with my job
sharing me is one year in terms

1170
00:51:38,780 --> 00:51:41,350
of experience, OK, she's one
year more experience than me,

1171
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,290
but she was my head of year
beforehand.

1172
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,870
But OK, I I feel like we're
actually friends, so I don't

1173
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,330
actually feel whatsoever like
there's that awkward,

1174
00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:51,870
professional kind of chasm
between us.

1175
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,880
Whereas Haydens, I know.
It's very different, isn't it?

1176
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,670
OK, yeah, not we're.
Not friends.

1177
00:51:55,810 --> 00:51:57,890
We're friends.
You know where you were.

1178
00:51:57,900 --> 00:51:59,370
That's what.
We're really good friends.

1179
00:51:59,820 --> 00:52:02,910
But yeah, but my my job share is
a lot more experience than me.

1180
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,110
Like we're talking like 5 to 10
years more and has been ahead of

1181
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,560
year six in the past as well.
Wasn't ever my head of year but

1182
00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:12,360
I I don't find, I don't find
that it makes it awkward in any

1183
00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:14,060
way.
If anything, I do think the fact

1184
00:52:14,070 --> 00:52:17,990
that we're both quite
experienced makes the job share

1185
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,290
a lot easier.
We both really understand the

1186
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:24,490
job and it's super easy to just
pass over notes to each other

1187
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:26,870
because we just know we'll get
the full context because of the

1188
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,830
experience we've had.
I think I'd find it harder if I

1189
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,990
was really experienced that my
job share was maybe one or two

1190
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,320
years into the into the career.
I think that would probably be a

1191
00:52:35,330 --> 00:52:37,890
harder experience.
So that's my experience.

1192
00:52:38,420 --> 00:52:39,330
OK.
Is it?

1193
00:52:39,340 --> 00:52:40,270
Right.
OK.

1194
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,130
So by job.
Share this She's older than me.

1195
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:46,430
She's just like her third career
and she's got such like good

1196
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,690
experience in other careers that
she's only maybe three years in.

1197
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:55,070
I was her mentor actually, as a
PGCE student and I have

1198
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,920
struggled with.
Telling her what to.

1199
00:52:57,930 --> 00:53:01,600
Do versus because she wants to.
Not because I'm being really

1200
00:53:01,610 --> 00:53:05,630
controlling, because she doesn't
feel very confident organising

1201
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,600
things that she hasn't done
before, versus allowing her the

1202
00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:11,100
autonomy as well to make
decisions because it's a job

1203
00:53:11,110 --> 00:53:14,100
share, Especially coming up to
this term with Sats.

1204
00:53:14,110 --> 00:53:18,060
I emailed my head sat timetable
the other day and we've got a

1205
00:53:18,070 --> 00:53:20,340
lot of different access
arrangements this year and it's

1206
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:22,480
ever so logistically
complicated.

1207
00:53:22,670 --> 00:53:24,700
And then I did it and thought, I
wonder if I should have done

1208
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:26,930
that with my job because she's
never done it before.

1209
00:53:27,020 --> 00:53:28,790
Maybe she should have would have
liked to do it with me.

1210
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,270
And I'm constantly kicking
myself thinking, Sophie, this

1211
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,110
isn't just your class.
You need to do this with

1212
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,730
someone.
But then yeah, actually I don't

1213
00:53:34,740 --> 00:53:36,980
wanna give her burden her with
things that she doesn't have to

1214
00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:38,320
do it.
That's a job that I can take off

1215
00:53:38,330 --> 00:53:39,570
her.
That's an hour long.

1216
00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:41,450
So I know I could just talk
about it.

1217
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:43,790
She she's lovely.
But that I'm finding hard if I

1218
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,810
don't want to overstep.
But equally I wanna just do it

1219
00:53:45,820 --> 00:53:47,760
because I know how to do it I
don't think.

1220
00:53:47,770 --> 00:53:49,870
It's a problem what you've done.
I don't think that's a problem

1221
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,610
at all.
I think it's actually actively a

1222
00:53:51,620 --> 00:53:54,430
good thing that you each have
individual roles that you can

1223
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,490
focus on.
I think maybe just the only step

1224
00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:58,850
that that that go in there is
just having a chat first to be

1225
00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:00,960
like I'm gonna do this thing.
By the way, what would you like

1226
00:54:00,970 --> 00:54:02,600
to take the lead on?
You know, and making sure that

1227
00:54:02,660 --> 00:54:04,610
it feels fair That way you don't
have to be like, ohh, do you

1228
00:54:04,620 --> 00:54:08,490
wanna share this awkwardly, like
for one person job that I I want

1229
00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:09,320
to do?
Yeah.

1230
00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:10,330
Because I'd find that you know
me.

1231
00:54:10,340 --> 00:54:12,050
And Julie and I are exactly the
same.

1232
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:15,530
We just we we we have our
strengths and weaknesses and we

1233
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:18,220
just kind of say to each other
you're better planning maths

1234
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:19,980
you're better plan English.
Do you wanna take the English at

1235
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:21,170
this time?
I'll take the maths and then

1236
00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:23,230
we'll just we'll do it that way
and we just sort of play to our

1237
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:25,190
strengths.
I think you kind of you you know

1238
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,130
to summarise what you said at
the start of the conversation.

1239
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:31,050
I think there's a really clear
pro and a really clear con to

1240
00:54:31,060 --> 00:54:34,350
job share and the clear Pro is 2
minds about the one.

1241
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,890
I think you've got two people
with experience coming to a

1242
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:39,450
classroom, offering their their
experience to that, to that

1243
00:54:39,460 --> 00:54:42,800
class as well.
Sorry to jump in.

1244
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:45,520
Did you see a debate on Facebook
about the marking of extended

1245
00:54:45,530 --> 00:54:47,060
writing?
I'm pretty sure one of you got

1246
00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:51,490
involved in the conversation.
Someone was probably doing free

1247
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:54,480
or big writes on a Friday.
She was the two day week

1248
00:54:54,490 --> 00:54:56,090
teacher.
Yeah, I did get involved.

1249
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:57,820
She was saying.
Like, should I take on all the

1250
00:54:57,830 --> 00:54:59,020
marking for this?
It's not fair.

1251
00:55:00,050 --> 00:55:04,470
And I I feel like most people
are saying, you know, you

1252
00:55:04,510 --> 00:55:05,840
actually two.
I can't remember where.

1253
00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:07,820
Was there a fair split between
what people say, was it?

1254
00:55:07,830 --> 00:55:10,840
No, I I think.
It was pretty one sided in terms

1255
00:55:10,850 --> 00:55:15,330
of people saying come on like
that's that's a bit unfair and

1256
00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:17,890
extended writing is the biggest
writer we all know.

1257
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:21,800
It's the biggest like marking.
Sorry there is you're sharing

1258
00:55:21,810 --> 00:55:24,740
the job you know.
Yeah, I think you especially

1259
00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:27,050
fair to say.
Yeah.

1260
00:55:27,250 --> 00:55:29,580
Yeah.
The counter argument was, well,

1261
00:55:29,590 --> 00:55:31,800
we didn't share the marking that
I did previously in the week.

1262
00:55:31,810 --> 00:55:34,610
I did a full a full lessons
worth marking the previous in

1263
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:36,660
the week.
So on that big right on that

1264
00:55:36,670 --> 00:55:38,490
independent writing lesson or
lessons.

1265
00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:41,660
If that is their only marking
from that then they should be

1266
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:43,380
doing it.
And and if you really wanna be

1267
00:55:43,390 --> 00:55:47,480
petty, I think you could say OK
they do a bit more to account

1268
00:55:47,490 --> 00:55:50,200
for what would be a normal
marking load of maybe like 45

1269
00:55:50,210 --> 00:55:53,220
minutes for a set of books.
But when big when it takes 5

1270
00:55:53,230 --> 00:55:55,510
hours to do independent marking
I don't think you should just

1271
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,280
like Ohh well fell on your day.
Yeah I just think that's a bit

1272
00:55:58,290 --> 00:55:59,660
mean.
That's the problem by the way.

1273
00:55:59,750 --> 00:56:01,800
Like, isn't it?
Like if you're marking scheme

1274
00:56:01,810 --> 00:56:04,520
means you take 5 hours to mark
your independent writing?

1275
00:56:04,610 --> 00:56:06,950
That's the first thing And that
situation I'd be talking about,

1276
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,110
Yeah, that's.
True.

1277
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,970
Yeah, you you gotta have a bit.
Of slike synergy with your with

1278
00:56:11,980 --> 00:56:14,420
your job share and you have you
know again for us we just had

1279
00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:17,430
mock sats week well what do you
do and it's.

1280
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,120
Yeah.
Sorry my.

1281
00:56:21,130 --> 00:56:23,770
Internet's really bad.
You just jump in.

1282
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,150
Ohh it's like it.
Ohh I I.

1283
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:28,170
I'm so far behind all my
lagging.

1284
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:31,310
Blame it on that, Dylan.
Blame it on.

1285
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,750
Yeah, yeah.
What?

1286
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,000
What?
Do you do hailing from next

1287
00:56:35,010 --> 00:56:37,310
week?
I'm interested cause I what What

1288
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,220
do you do?
First tell me what in terms of

1289
00:56:39,230 --> 00:56:41,250
like the.
The the logistics or like do you

1290
00:56:41,260 --> 00:56:43,670
do a?
Full as if it sats week where

1291
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,110
you're doing it.
The adults are using that kind

1292
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,290
of thing.
Yeah, we do that.

1293
00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:48,700
One time and that's more for us
to be honest with you.

1294
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:51,090
We do that one time before the
other ones in the earlier on the

1295
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:51,960
year.
We just did them kind of

1296
00:56:51,970 --> 00:56:54,770
casually, like just to get data.
OK, this one this is this.

1297
00:56:54,780 --> 00:56:56,340
Is the one we do before the
actual sets.

1298
00:56:56,350 --> 00:56:59,450
We do it properly as if it's the
real thing, all the right rooms

1299
00:56:59,460 --> 00:57:02,390
and adults and extra time and
all that sort of stuff.

1300
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,320
And we use it to basically a
test run for us to make sure the

1301
00:57:05,330 --> 00:57:07,400
kids are in the right place and
got all the adults.

1302
00:57:07,470 --> 00:57:08,800
But.
But we did that on on a Monday

1303
00:57:08,810 --> 00:57:10,540
to Wednesday.
OK, so we did it.

1304
00:57:10,550 --> 00:57:12,640
We did actually cram it into
three days instead of four.

1305
00:57:12,650 --> 00:57:13,650
That's the only thing we
changed.

1306
00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:15,120
Just so we had a bit more
teaching time.

1307
00:57:15,210 --> 00:57:17,550
Yeah.
Tested in the week And obviously

1308
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,990
that comes with tonnes of
markings, doesn't it?

1309
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,880
You know, and analysis and stuff
like that.

1310
00:57:21,050 --> 00:57:22,580
And I ended up doing all of
that.

1311
00:57:22,890 --> 00:57:26,480
But that was fine because then,
you know, me and my job should

1312
00:57:26,490 --> 00:57:29,350
just have that understanding of,
oh, she she would just recognise

1313
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,680
that I did a bit more work and
then it went out of her way to

1314
00:57:31,690 --> 00:57:33,840
do a bunch of parents even
comments for us this week, like

1315
00:57:33,930 --> 00:57:35,490
a huge job that we'd normally
share.

1316
00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:37,270
She was like, no, don't worry,
because you did those tests last

1317
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,250
week.
Yeah, I think you just to have a

1318
00:57:39,260 --> 00:57:41,380
good job share.
I think you do just kind of need

1319
00:57:41,390 --> 00:57:44,590
that connection where it's like
we're we're not here to mug each

1320
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,150
other off.
We're not here to get one up on

1321
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,890
each other of like ohh keep
notes on all you've done extra

1322
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:51,490
45 minutes of marking them me
this week so that's not fair.

1323
00:57:51,980 --> 00:57:53,900
I think you, I think you kind of
got to be chilled about it to

1324
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:56,510
make it work, it sounds like.
We're all quite lucky though, in

1325
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,410
that we get on with our job
shares quite well, whereas I've

1326
00:57:58,420 --> 00:58:00,850
had friends that have really
clashed with their job shares

1327
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,000
and they've had to communicate
through the head with what

1328
00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:05,810
they're going to be sharing
rather than just with each

1329
00:58:05,820 --> 00:58:07,890
other, which must be really
difficult.

1330
00:58:07,940 --> 00:58:09,730
Yeah, you can see why.
People don't wanna do job shares

1331
00:58:09,740 --> 00:58:12,290
because it does just open up the
the probability of this kind of

1332
00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:13,840
thing happening.
Yeah, yeah.

1333
00:58:13,850 --> 00:58:16,230
Which which I guess.
Leads me on to the final bit of

1334
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,930
my earlier point, which is the
con of job share is exactly

1335
00:58:18,940 --> 00:58:21,790
that, is that you've got two
people now doing it, and you

1336
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,130
might have very different
teaching styles that could

1337
00:58:24,140 --> 00:58:25,490
potentially not be fair on the
kids.

1338
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,250
I think this is the bit where
Dylan struggles with saying, you

1339
00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:31,690
know, objectively, is it, is it
just worse to have a job here?

1340
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,890
Yeah, it's.
It's hard.

1341
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,340
It's hard because you know if if
the teachers are really

1342
00:58:36,350 --> 00:58:38,690
different, then the kids could
be getting completely if

1343
00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:41,370
teachers getting really confused
about their routine or this

1344
00:58:41,380 --> 00:58:43,460
first teacher of the in the week
lets me do this and the second

1345
00:58:43,470 --> 00:58:45,740
teacher doesn't really
forgetting who who's OK with

1346
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:48,450
this and who's not.
So you just got to be careful.

1347
00:58:48,460 --> 00:58:50,940
But yeah, yeah, you can see the
struggle.

1348
00:58:52,190 --> 00:58:56,140
On the marks at quickly we do
just one test under the test

1349
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:59,740
conditions but then we do a full
set but just in the classroom

1350
00:58:59,750 --> 00:59:02,320
and actually you talk about it
now made me think about it.

1351
00:59:02,330 --> 00:59:04,480
I have just haven't even asked
my job Sir.

1352
00:59:04,490 --> 00:59:06,620
I've just taken that on that I
will mark them and analyse them

1353
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:09,950
because that's that control part
of me that I want to know where

1354
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,090
the gaps are because I want to
plan in the revision.

1355
00:59:13,130 --> 00:59:16,090
So I think I should probably ask
her if she wants to mark any.

1356
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:18,560
But then I think, well, who
wants to mark Sats papers?

1357
00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:22,340
Like, surely she'll be glad.
But I'm just getting used to

1358
00:59:22,410 --> 00:59:24,860
handing over control, and it's
not all about what you want,

1359
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:26,030
Sophie.
I think that's what it is,

1360
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,790
isn't?
It it's, it sounds, it sounds

1361
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,170
like you're still treating it
like you're the full time class

1362
00:59:31,180 --> 00:59:32,300
teacher.
Yeah, yeah.

1363
00:59:32,310 --> 00:59:33,530
And you've got maybe.
Some.

1364
00:59:33,540 --> 00:59:35,450
You've got someone in, Yeah.
It's hard.

1365
00:59:35,460 --> 00:59:37,530
It's a hard transition, like
we've been doing it for a couple

1366
00:59:37,540 --> 00:59:38,780
of years now.
Yeah, definitely.

1367
00:59:38,790 --> 00:59:43,470
Took some time to get used to
the concept of of how this works

1368
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:44,830
after, you know, eight years of
teaching.

1369
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,210
Yeah, full time in a class.
And it's, and it's still not

1370
00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:48,720
perfect, but, you know, we
learned.

1371
00:59:48,730 --> 00:59:50,830
We changed all the time, I'll
tell you.

1372
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,970
What though the best thing I
would say about a job share is

1373
00:59:54,980 --> 00:59:59,310
teacher well-being and I think
that has massively translated to

1374
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,210
my teaching.
I think, I think my my actual

1375
01:00:02,220 --> 01:00:05,190
physical teaching in front of
the children is genuinely better

1376
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,590
than ever and and I'm saying
that in in a place of yes, I'm

1377
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,490
more experienced obviously, but
I'm I'm, I'm not really.

1378
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,440
Turning out week to week, and I
used to burn out, yeah, I'd get

1379
01:00:14,450 --> 01:00:17,080
to Thursday, Friday and I would
genuinely be absolutely

1380
01:00:17,090 --> 01:00:19,300
knackered.
And I know what I'm teaching

1381
01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:22,680
wouldn't be at the best because
I'm like waiting for the weekend

1382
01:00:22,690 --> 01:00:24,640
basically to recharge.
And although now we have

1383
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:28,240
children and although Hayden and
I, we we have our business where

1384
01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:31,400
we actually we do work on
Thursday and Friday, it is not

1385
01:00:31,410 --> 01:00:34,320
comparable to teaching.
And I think that's where you can

1386
01:00:34,330 --> 01:00:37,540
get really lost in the job as a
teacher and forget how

1387
01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:39,420
unbelievably exhausting the job
is.

1388
01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:42,810
And yeah, going part time.
If you can afford to do so, if

1389
01:00:42,820 --> 01:00:46,030
it's better for your kind of
your family life, I would

1390
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,490
recommend it to anyone for that.
Burnout is much, much less

1391
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:52,110
likely to happen with with three
days of I felt.

1392
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,090
Was feel exactly same actually.
Cause I get to Thursday and just

1393
01:00:55,140 --> 01:00:56,930
feel like my week should be
over.

1394
01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:58,970
Cause three days is enough to
exhaust you, isn't it?

1395
01:00:59,020 --> 01:01:02,330
I think that's enough time to
not lose the enthusiasm.

1396
01:01:02,340 --> 01:01:04,290
Because I've done three days on
fractions.

1397
01:01:04,340 --> 01:01:06,240
My goodness, I've had to do
another two days on fractions.

1398
01:01:06,250 --> 01:01:08,860
I'm gonna wanna end it all.
So you know by the time you've

1399
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:11,290
had four days to process it, you
get back to your next day on

1400
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:12,750
fractions on the Monday
anything, right.

1401
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,350
Ready to go rather than having
to drag your feet through two

1402
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,490
more mass lessons.
So yeah I think that is a

1403
01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:19,990
massive probe that isn't really
talked about enough.

1404
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,430
Yeah, definitely.
Plenty of pros and there's a few

1405
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,790
cons, but obviously we mentioned
Sats.

1406
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,920
I think we should use this this
as a segue to play the Jingle

1407
01:01:29,930 --> 01:01:31,470
and come back and talk a bit
more about Sats.

1408
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,590
Cause you Sophie are obviously
of course the Sats Queen and you

1409
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,330
mentioned that you do analysis
and and you've you've written

1410
01:01:37,340 --> 01:01:41,070
some awesome analysis, analysis,
analysis in the past.

1411
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:42,990
I think the time is.
Just analysis.

1412
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,590
It's like sheep, you don't do
anything to it.

1413
01:01:45,470 --> 01:01:48,910
Yeah, Did you know?
Station fishes, fish and fishes

1414
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,090
are two different plurals that
mean different things.

1415
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:52,060
Go and tell us.
Tell us.

1416
01:01:52,070 --> 01:01:54,210
Tell the people at home.
Someone's gonna tell me?

1417
01:01:54,220 --> 01:01:56,760
This is wrong, but one of them
and I'm gonna go for fish.

1418
01:01:56,810 --> 01:02:00,400
Fish is plural for the same as
about say brand of fish, breed,

1419
01:02:00,450 --> 01:02:03,140
species, Ohh Go brand.
Go brands of fish.

1420
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,080
Yeah, you know, there's like 17
fish if they're all goldfish,

1421
01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:10,280
Yeah, fish is.
If they're all different brands

1422
01:02:10,290 --> 01:02:11,000
of fish.
You are.

1423
01:02:11,070 --> 01:02:12,020
You are.
Absolutely correct.

1424
01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:13,840
That is exactly right.
Yeah.

1425
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,010
Ohh is it?
Yeah.

1426
01:02:15,020 --> 01:02:15,700
Ohh, good.
Thanks.

1427
01:02:15,710 --> 01:02:17,030
I didn't realise that next bit
in the room.

1428
01:02:17,170 --> 01:02:21,690
There you go.
Yeah, a really obscure quiz

1429
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:23,560
question.
Yes, I do randomly know that for

1430
01:02:23,570 --> 01:02:24,670
some reason.
Nice.

1431
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:25,770
Well.
Thanks for coming.

1432
01:02:26,020 --> 01:02:27,410
Let's play the Jingle.
And come back.

1433
01:02:29,710 --> 01:02:30,890
OK guys, hope you.
Enjoyed that?

1434
01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:32,670
Like we said at the start of the
episode, you're not going to

1435
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,830
hear the rest of it right now.
We're gonna save it for next

1436
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,110
time and you're gonna get two
bumper episodes with the lovely

1437
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,870
Sophie, so hope you enjoyed it.
Let us know what you think and

1438
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,290
do follow us and make sure you
keep your eyes peeled for Part

1439
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:44,380
2.
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