Ep 162: Decision Fatigue, Celebrity Teacher Staff Teams & The 9 Tenses Explained!

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123 A Jingle Bell Jingle Bell,
Jingle Bell rock.

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Come on Dylan.
Jingle Bell rock with Dylan and

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Hayden.
Welcome to the pod with bushels

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of fun.
No, no.

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No bushels are there.
That's my unit of measure.

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I realised that other than
Jingle Bell Rock, I didn't know

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the lyrics.
I don't know this song.

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Hello, Ron.
Merry Christmas.

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The plan already unhinged,
aren't we?

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That's great.
This is a good start.

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The plan for the couple of
weeks?

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Do you need to do just for your
own sake?

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Do you need to do the normal
intro midway?

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You sure?
Hello everyone, welcome back to

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the episode TC Repeat.
My name is Dylan.

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My name is Halo.
Now that's out the way, I can

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finally feel relaxed.
The plan for the next couple of

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weeks?
We're going to go to 1 episode a

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week over the Christmas holidays
if you will.

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Do you know why?
Why tell us?

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We're going to stack record.
We don't want to do anything.

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We want a break We haven't had
to be fair.

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Yeah, we have not had a break.
We've recorded every single week

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for well over a year now.
Yeah, a year and a few months.

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We're still going to release
every week.

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Yeah, we're just going to the
illusion.

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So we have to wait.
Sorry.

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We have to pretend that it's
like Christmas imminently.

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Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's going to be good.

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Christmas is soon.
Well, sorry, I just got a phone

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call.
Yeah.

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You're delivering tomorrow on
the 11th of December.

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Yeah, that's fine.
I'll pick it up.

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I'll pick it up then on the
11th.

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I can't believe I've only got 5
bloody chocolates left on my

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advent calendar.
Actually, that is true because

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I've got ahead, yeah.
I've got ahead and you've got

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today probably, so it should be
4.

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Anyway, I don't know what date
it is.

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It's Christmas holidays, mate,
we're out of it.

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There's one.
Mate, every day is Christmas

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holiday for us.
Let's do AQ and A I'm going to

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start off with a very vital
question, if you will, something

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that's really important.
Which of these effects teacher

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well-being more, the nativity or
Sats?

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How silly.
I've worked in years 6 and many

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years.
So it's clearly only the Sats.

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Oh, clearly the Sats.
Do you know my no I am a yes the

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bloody sats are on the did you
know the sats are on the way?

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What's that you need to print
for your normal day-to-day

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lessons.
I've got 715 sats papers to

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print and I'll be taking those
every every TA from the school

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yoink I need them for a week.
But it's not even SATS.

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No, we're doing a mock SATS for
the 15th time this year.

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I don't need your TA to support
your learning.

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I need the TA to sit next to
someone to be tap, tap, tap in

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that question that they're not
paying attention to.

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Tap, tap.
Let's be real though, let's

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people, you're taking the Mick.
Let's be.

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Let's be real, all right, the
Sats is worse, isn't it?

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Do you think?
Of course it is.

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That's a long time.
That's a long term pressure

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nativity.
Like first, the expectations are

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low, aren't they?
Come on, it's the nativity and

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you're not and you're not doing
boosters.

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You're not.
Impressed.

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I think you're undermining the
role of Doorman 3 has to open

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the door.
Yeah, yeah, you're.

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Underestimating the power it has
when your main character goes on

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stage and bursts out crying and
doesn't want to do it on the

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show on the day.
Yeah, to be fair.

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OK, I get the point of the
question, Hayden.

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I think you can read between
lines or not.

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The point of the question is to
make a joke all.

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Right.
Oh, right.

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But nativity is quite, it is
quite stressful.

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I think you're being a bit, you
know, uppity there in the year 6

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out ivory tower.
Go and tell me why.

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No, I've I've also not gone it's
because you're making it also

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not done.
So this question is not the best

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question.
I'm just think.

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About how I do the Sats and then
do a Year 6 show, it's worse

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doing both, doing both those
things, one of those things.

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Oh, yeah.
So you find it way more pressure

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and like to do the SATS.
My, my point is it depends on

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your school.
Nativity is flatlined, like

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annoying, like, and hard and
stressful, Right.

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Yeah, yeah.
You can't get more or less

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really.
Whereas Sats, depending on your

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school.
I've seen schools that are

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already chilled and lay back
about the Sats and it's just

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like, it's just your normal
teaching almost.

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Yeah, that's true.
And then there's other schools

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where it's like we're doing
Easter boosters come in for

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Easter like that, Expect more.
I'll be more than having to tell

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a donkey where to stand on
stage.

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That's a good point because at
the end of the day, and you

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can't change the fact that
nativity is 37 year olds. 7 year

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olds, How many of them?
Teachers, Yeah.

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Jesus was 30. 3 Thank you.
Yeah, you can't change that.

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Can you Wear the schools to
school, like you said, that's

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going to be different.
But Nativity, it's not going to

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be that enjoyable really
anywhere trying to organise that

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is it?
I'll tell you what, it's special

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though, and now we've got our
little ones.

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Do you know when parents used to
like, cry when their kid was

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delivering a line poorly and you
sat the side gaff?

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He's not even said it properly
and they're like crying their

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eyes out.
Ohh, that's gonna be me.

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I can't wait till our kids do
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They'll be in the same year
group, maybe even in the same

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school.
Probably.

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Yeah.
I can't wait for for River to

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be, you know, Mary.
Yeah, she'll be she'll be like

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top character and Laura be in
the corner.

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He'll be 3/4.
And I'd be like, yeah.

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So good what our kids are doing,
isn't it?

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It's so good.
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Cool.
It's just they both, everyone's

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on the stage, both in it
participation.

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Medal participation medals, the
thing that is the core to us.

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You, Rory, you a bloody
brilliant tree.

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You were bloody.
Brilliant tree.

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I like the idea of him doing it
badly and like me getting

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annoyed.
Trees don't move, son.

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One dog.
God's sake.

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No, it's not windy and Nazareth
famously don't sway.

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Stand still, Mr. Brown.
Brown clothes.

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Trees don't say they're hungry.
That goes for you as well, Mary.

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We were just talking before we
start recording how our

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children, the only thing they
ever want to do is eat.

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Yeah.
Yeah, just in that I.

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Wonder why they get deaf Rob
suckling a whisper gold from

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birth like a bottle.
Just relentless, aren't they?

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More eat always.
That's all they know.

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Yeah.
Anyway, that's the question,

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Hayden, that we're really
seriously answering, man, which

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effects teacher well-being more
than the tipity of SATS, SATS in

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it, I think.
SATS.

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I see overall, but they're both
pretty tricky.

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They're both pretty tricky,
right?

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Next one.
This is an interesting one.

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This is from our podcast website
page, which I set up a long time

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ago, kind of forgot about and
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It's been a long time.
Turns out we had quite a few

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submissions on there.
So thank you very much, by the

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way, because it's another way of
getting in touch with us.

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And you know what, it was really
nice reading through them all.

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So we're going to work through
those as well.

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If you want to go to our
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in the description that I've
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right now.
And if you actually want your

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question heard on the podcast
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our WhatsApp community because
that's where it actually hey.

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This episode's coming out in
2027 at some point I think, so

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who knows?
So pod page from Nell.

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OK, so in the spirit of not
letting Tom single handedly

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flood the questioning for for a
couple of weeks.

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That was a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah, well, it's like probably a

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month at this point.
Hang on, we're recording.

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This six years of advice?
I don't know.

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I thought I'd better step in.
I've brought 2 questions to

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ensure a sense of balance to the
universe.

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The serious one.
Do you think we need far greater

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awareness of critical thinking
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within teaching?
Not in the abstract academic

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sense, but in the relentless
microscopic hourly grind of it

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in order to stop educators from
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I'm defining critical thinking
here as the never ending stream

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of cognitive micro decisions.
The preschool meeting you didn't

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know you were having.
The after school 1 you did know

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you were having.
The calming of a colleague.

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The settling of a class.
The subtle pivot in questioning

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to draw out a hesitant student.
The quite diffusing of a

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situation before it even becomes
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The daily admin that multiplies
like gremlins after midnight.

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Barack Obama apparently limited
his outfit choices to avoid

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decision fatigue, alongside
other world figures who cottoned

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on to the idea that high
pressure roles require ruthless

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conservation of cognitive
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Now I'm not suggesting we're
vying for the Oval Office, but

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the accumulated burden of
constant decisions in teaching

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surely deserves more open
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Perhaps it's time this was
brought to the surface as I'm

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sure it is a silent drag.
Wowzers.

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I mean, she's bloody right.
It's a great question.

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It's a great question.
And how good was that reading I

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give you?
Couldn't wait for me to get

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something wrong reading that.
Yeah.

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And you and you did a little
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I did, yeah.
It was not.

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It was.
Conservation or something was.

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Conservation and sorry, I just
put I wrote notes down while

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you're reading multiplies like
gremlins a after midnight.

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I've never heard of a after
before midnight before fun,

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funnily enough, so I've added
the syllable that drops it down

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9.5 and then yeah, the the you
looked conservation.

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You were sweating.
At that point, you couldn't.

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Because conservation
conservation, conservation of

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cognitive energy.
So yeah, you know, get a grip.

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Learn to read for context if
you're tuning for the first time

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now, Dylan constantly.
If I get a word slightly wrong,

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hopefully.
Wrong.

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You're completely much worse
than anything I did there.

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Much if I get if I completely
mess up, Dylan will absolutely

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ridicule me on the podcast live.
But I think that was a well

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written question and it's
actually really, it's a really

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good point because I feel like
it's almost pushing back on what

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I've recently talked about where
I don't think I was very clear

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enough because I think you're
making amazing points here.

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But I spoke about the whole
thing about how, you know,

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teachers make more decisions
than a brain surgeon in a day.

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And I talked about how like it
just cringes me out a bit that

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we would like, it feels like
we're pitting together 22 jobs

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there.
And and you can kind of keep the

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same logic up here in terms of
yes, but I'm not Barack Obama,

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right?
But I think in the question very

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clearly nodded towards that.
And I think your wider point is

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still very much true.
And actually, I'm probably going

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over the top there because no,
we're not fighting for the Oval

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Office.
However, I think decision

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fatigue is real.
And I think you're absolutely

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right in terms of we should be
just making more of a

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conversation about the sheer
amount of cognitive load that

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goes into the job of teaching.
It is.

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It is wild, isn't it?
Massively I'm trying to think

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now like in your career, did
you, can you ever remember

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having any like training on
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Like even like in teach training
or just within school.

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Like someone coming in or
delivering training on like how

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to how to prioritise or how to
manage your dates to avoid this

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because it is clearly a real
thing.

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Yeah, no, I.
Don't think we did.

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The only thing I can ever think
of is like colleagues being

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helpful, putting their arm
around you when you're a younger

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teacher maybe, and saying you
have to do this to survive.

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It's almost like that
survivorship thing of, well,

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I've got 15 years into the job
and the only way anyone's got 15

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years into the job is to notice
this and do what they can to

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combat it.
So like, it's kind of been a bit

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like that where you kind of left
to your own devices almost.

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But the, the earlier I realised
that, the less likely I was to

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burn out.
Like it is absolutely true.

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It's such a good point.
And the whole thing about Barack

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Obama limiting outfit choices to
avoid that it's, it is like that

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is very interesting to me
because obviously you spent your

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whole career only wearing.
One outfit.

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So yeah, when I read that bit, I
was like, it's true though,

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because I did, I did just
passively do that.

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No, but.
OK, making my real point that I

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was actually on the way to make
it before I thought I'd just

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take a dig here is that is
absolutely true.

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You need to reduce what you have
to decide across the board in

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teaching so you like what you
get dressed in in the morning.

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I know for a fact my partner
who's a teacher would spend a

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lot more time thinking about
what they're wearing.

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She she thought, oh, what about
this?

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What about that?
And I always remember thinking

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like, why are you wasting your
brain thought on that?

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I don't care for her.
It was important.

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And maybe she thought less about
something else.

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You look good in all of it,
love.

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That's the answer, isn't it?
Rather love?

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Condescending.
Yeah, but I've been you.

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You're condescending.
I'm not me.

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You call everyone love when
you're not love.

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Yeah, but I, I used to always
think, why are you wasting your

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time on that?
And and that is true in terms of

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teaching as well.
There's so much stuff in

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teaching that I would hear my
colleagues mention or say and

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do.
And I was like, I kind of get

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why you're thinking about that.
That does seem important, but

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you have to not worry the things
that.

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Seem important?
I'm not going to do it, I know.

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Well, that's that's to be fair,
that's another level that's

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physical stuff.
I don't think you really

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understand the question.
You're a bit below where we are.

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Here we go intellectually me in
there question Christmas.

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Yeah, I know.
But we're talking about here in

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terms.
I'm just trying to derail you.

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Any anything I can do to derail?
You no, that's fine, that's

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fair.
But I am I think it's really,

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really true.
And do you did you find yourself

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actively getting rid of
decisions like that or putting

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things in place that made the
decisions for you?

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Like for example, minimising
your outfit?

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I know it's a joke.
You didn't consciously do that

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right?
No, but but you definitely

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reaped the reward of you could
get into school a bit earlier or

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get into school a bit later and
spend time doing something else.

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So did you find that when you
made these decisions in your

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career where they kind of
subconscious didn't think about

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it, you just kind of survived?
Or were you actually what was so

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well outlined in this question?
Were you actively thinking, OK,

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yeah, I need to reduce this?
I think they probably were more

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subconscious than I realised.
And like now we can on

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reflection, I'm like, Oh yeah,
if I go back and if we unpicked

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why I did those things and
someone said, what are you doing

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this?
And made me think about at the

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time, I probably would come to
the conclusion of like, oh, it's

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just another.
It's one thing less to think

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about because there's so much,
there's so many decisions I

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actually have to make in the day
that are important to the job

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and actually teaching children
on the spot.

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Like I don't need to be thinking
about these extra things.

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But even like, you know, we
mentioned loads of times, but

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having a notepad for like
prioritising stuff, even that to

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me kind of comes into the realms
of this where I'm like, at some

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point someone helped me with the
decision fatigue by saying, oh,

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just write it down and
prioritise it and don't do the

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things at the bottom, even
little things like that.

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I'm like, like you said, just
the communal wisdom that you get

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from other teachers is all along
the lines of these things.

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And, and the biggest thing I
think about is the fact that

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actually, yeah, there is just no
top down support on this.

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Yeah.
I mean, maybe I'm sure some

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schools there are there probably
some really fantastic leaders

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who recognise this and not
formal though, but not formal,

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certainly not, not expected.
Yeah, it's not normal.

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Like the fact that this question
is here is to bring light to it.

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It kind of defines the point.
I, I, yeah, this is fascinating,

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to be fair, when I already think
about it, because it's, it's

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things like in the question it
was mentioned about like the the

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before school meeting you didn't
know about.

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That's where it can be
controlled, right?

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More more so from the top down
in terms of the people in power.

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You can't control the the
thought process and the

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cognition of like pivoting on a
question to try and help a child

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in that moment of trying to get
them to come out of the shell or

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helping them with emotional
support of someone else.

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It's all about prioritisation.
My job as a teacher was always

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to prioritise things.
That was really important to me,

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way more important than what I
was wearing that day.

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So like, I would think, cool if
I can systemise what I'm

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wearing, or I can systemise how
I give feedback or if I can do

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something on what I think is a
lower priority that lets me open

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my brain up to something else
which I think is more important.

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The issue came, I think as a
teacher you can do that and do

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that and do that.
I think we talk about that a

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lot, that exact thing of
prioritisation, write new things

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down, getting systems in place
of stuff that are less

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important, giving jobs out to
your kids, all that kind of

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stuff.
But there's certain things as a

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teacher, yeah, you are going to
get tired, you are going to get

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knackered.
You are going to put your heart

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into this because it's really
important.

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There's that other layer of you
can do that until the cows come

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home.
But if you get in one morning

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and someone in the leadership
position is like I just got a

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quick 15 minute meeting, come
on.

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That'll throw you off straight
away.

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Yeah, definitely.
And that's that's where I think

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again, there needs to be much
more top down thought about and

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appreciation of what this
question is outlining from

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people in charge it.
Has to be because the end of the

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day, the whole point of this
really was it says to in order

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to stop educators from quietly
burning out.

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And that is happening.
So it's like, yeah, we have to

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talk about it.
So yeah, really good question.

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Really made us think.
And hopefully it's something

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that if you're a long time
listener, like we do kind of

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passively talk about this a lot
really like, you know, but it's

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nice to it's nice that someone's
put it into like a package.

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That question that made us
realise, yeah, actually this is,

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this is something, this is a a
category that we can talk.

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About Yeah.
And I am vying for the Oval

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Office.
Yeah.

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So it's great.
To know that they got that.

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Yeah, I shall be one day.
The American president,

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apparently.
Should they lie to one?

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Yeah.
Go on then.

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Yeah, but like Obama's tan suit.
Do you remember when he wore a

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tan suit?
It's a good suit.

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Do you remember that?
Yeah.

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And he got a lot of rubbish for
that.

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Yeah, I know.
Isn't it crazy to think about

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what used to be like a a scandal
for American president wearing a

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tan suit?
Was in the news site for about a

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week.
If only we kind of held the

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standard.
Is anyway the lighter one.

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What mildly infuriates you yet
feels too socially delicate to

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mention?
For instance, people who end

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every sentence with an upward
Inflexion.

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Or those who misquote films, TV
shows Brent in a confident

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attempt at humour, as though
accuracy was optional.

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Or the conversational film
merchants who toss in like

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confetti.
I'm going to I have to throw it

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back to you because I feel like
this question is designed for

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you because I feel like you get
more annoyed at things than I

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do.
OK, I absolutely do.

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You do.
It's true.

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I get really, really, really,
really, really annoyed when

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people don't accept and
understand or let themselves say

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sorry or be wrong about
something.

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And I know what you're thinking.
Hypocritical, and you're always

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right.
But here's my ultimate example.

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I was at the garden centre the
other day, Right.

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Yeah.
And I was waiting in the car

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because Rory was sleeping.
We'd gone in two cars.

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We were getting our Christmas
tree.

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So we needed an empty car, the
Christmas tree, that one was

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going to drive home.
So in the other car was Rory and

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his mom.
And Rory was asleep.

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And so I was just waiting in the
car park.

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I was sat in the car and I had
about 20 minutes and this the

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car next to us, someone came out
and got their kid in the car

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like their their dad obviously
got in the car as well.

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So it's a nice little free
generation trip and the bloke

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got in the car and opened his
door and smashed the side of the

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car.
I was in like literally just

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full on opened it and hit my car
and didn't do anything right.

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Ignore didn't even do like close
the door.

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I knew you were there.
No, I don't know.

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But then even if you didn't know
I was there or not, when if I

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open the door and it smashed the
car, yeah, I'm checking.

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I'm like, I will at least look.
Like at the very least he didn't

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do anything.
Didn't do anything.

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Just shut the door, start to
turn his key off.

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Yeah, but didn't even look,
didn't even didn't even think

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like as if he didn't know.
This is the level I'm talking

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about.
Like this is what annoys me.

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People have like no
self-awareness whatsoever that

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they're the most important
person in the world and they

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just don't care.
Like.

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And so I obviously was like, OK,
I'll make a thing then because

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you're not going to.
So I rolled the window down and

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I say, no, I didn't.
Excuse me?

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And he didn't say anything, so
excuse me.

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Excuse me.
And he looked at me and he was

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like, Oh yeah, Oh yeah, sorry.
What?

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Like wound his window down.
He's Oh yeah, sorry.

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So he said sorry straight away.
Oh, so he knew he didn't.

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Wait, yeah.
So I was like, yeah, you did.

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No, it's just 'cause you just
smashed the car and didn't even

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look.
Is it?

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And he was sorry.
Yeah, I didn't realise.

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I was like, we did realise.
Didn't you just said sorry?

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What you saying sorry for?
No sorry, I didn't know it

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happened.
I was like, no, you did know it

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happened.
You did.

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You're lying now.
I'm actually more annoyed that

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you just ignored the fact it
happened and we're gonna drive

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off then is it okay?
I asked him and he was like

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yeah, yeah it's fine, it's fine.
I was like, yeah, good to check

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though, isn't it?
To check it's okay.

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And then he beat you up but he
just went I'm sorry, I didn't

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realise.
And I was like, I just said to

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him, why are you lying?
Why are you bareface lying?

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Like there is no situation and
this is what based.

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I thought there's no situation
even 1.

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You didn't know, right?
Imagine you didn't know how

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stupidly blase and not caring
about your surroundings.

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Would you have to be to not know
that?

454
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,920
To not think?
Are you ever opening a car in a

455
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,400
car park of a car next to you
and not thinking?

456
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,600
Oh just make sure it doesn't
touch the car so he's even not

457
00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,840
doing that at all when he's an
idiot.

458
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,120
Or he did know and he's lying.
I'm like, mate, I said to him,

459
00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:54,400
I'm more annoyed you didn't just
say sorry.

460
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,280
I'm more annoyed you didn't just
say, oh, oh crap, sorry mate.

461
00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,600
Or look or do anything.
You were just going to drive

462
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,440
off.
That's what annoys me.

463
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,880
That's probably not even
socially acceptable.

464
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,720
I was to say, yeah, socially
delicate.

465
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,360
I think that's just, I think
that's just legitimately.

466
00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,480
Annoying, but I think there is a
surprising amount of people who

467
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,720
can't ever just think that their
consequences have a meaning to

468
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,520
someone else.
Yeah, it's just all about

469
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,960
themselves and stuff.
And that comes down to the micro

470
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,920
stuff of like, you know, leaving
the fridge slightly open in the

471
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,480
staff room so everyone's food
gets support.

472
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,920
Just little things where you
just don't even contemplate the

473
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,320
fact there are other people in
this world apart from you.

474
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,000
Comes down to politics, comes
down to everything.

475
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000
Winds me up just.
Say sorry, yeah, it's not.

476
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,720
It's not hard, is it?
That probably comes from school

477
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,440
as well, because with kids, like
they're learning that, aren't

478
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,280
they?
Yeah, the whole idea.

479
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,840
So when they're seven, I let
them off and that's.

480
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,920
What I mean like we're used to
that and and they get it as

481
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,480
well, most of them.
And it's like when you when you

482
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,720
meet an adult that hasn't done
it, what's?

483
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,120
Wrong with you.
Yeah, yeah, and and small talk.

484
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,880
That's the thing where I'm I am
wrong.

485
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,480
I get that.
I think that first one was like

486
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,800
a nice tap anywhere.
Everyone agrees.

487
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,600
I, I I would.
I'd rather sit in silence than

488
00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,280
hear about someone's grandkid.
It's so funny that we're sat on

489
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,200
a podcast, but there's always,
there's always like, small.

490
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,840
I like this.
You never know.

491
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,640
This is why we get to the real
stuff all the time.

492
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,120
But like, you know, when this is
lovely people, This is why it's

493
00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:11,520
unacceptable.
Oh, I don't want to see them

494
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,040
though.
Yeah, it's like, oh, look what

495
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,640
my grandkid did and it's a 4
minute video and I've only got 4

496
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,320
minutes for my lunch break.
I just want to eat.

497
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,440
Yeah, talk.
OK, we can talk, but I don't

498
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,440
know what your grandkid chase a
Daisy around the garden.

499
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,960
I don't care if.
It was my son.

500
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,120
I'd watch it five times.
Course I'm not.

501
00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:29,000
Looking at your course, I would
absolutely.

502
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,400
Mines linked I guess to small
talk in a way.

503
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,480
My little pet peeve, and it is
from work, to be honest with

504
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,480
you, is when when people come
into work and your first

505
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,520
interaction with them is they're
moaning about something in their

506
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,480
life.
And this sounds in their life

507
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,800
because yeah, because we should
be.

508
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,440
And I'm empathetic and I do care
about people, but when the first

509
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,800
thing.
Next question also my huge

510
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,480
problem in my life.
Yeah.

511
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,640
But it's just, it is the timing
though.

512
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,000
Yeah, like someone comes in
morning.

513
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,880
Whatever.
I'm like, oh, I'm like, here we

514
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,360
go.
And I might deeply care about

515
00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:00,840
this person, but I'm like, just
can we just say it?

516
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,960
Like me, just say morning.
Like you're right.

517
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:02,360
Yeah.
Good.

518
00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:03,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've got that thing ready you.

519
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,440
Want the small talk?
Yeah, almost like, but just

520
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,280
like, just normal.
Just warm me up, you know, warm

521
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,400
me up.
And they're kind of.

522
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,840
Oh, yeah.
Paul was really ill last night.

523
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,160
We want a bit of a bellyache.
Oh, did you?

524
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,160
Great.
It's 7:00 AM.

525
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,960
Have you did you, did you trim
the sheets?

526
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,000
Because we've got, I try to know
because I'm just trying to get

527
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,680
macerated.
I'm warming up today.

528
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,840
Do you know what I mean?
And is Paul now I've got to say,

529
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,520
Oh yeah, is Paul all right?
Jill and Sarah, bro, they just

530
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,160
they just had a they had another
tiff.

531
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,400
I don't know who these people
are.

532
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,600
I.
Just like, I barely know, you

533
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,280
know what?
And this is the reason why it

534
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,760
goes in this one, I think
because most people are just

535
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,880
nice snoring your beans.
Wouldn't even think about that.

536
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,600
I'm just sort of like selfishly,
I'm like, can we just let's

537
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,320
leave that for later?
Well, we'll do that later.

538
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,480
And don't, in fact, don't leave
it for any time for Dylan

539
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,840
because he doesn't want to know
at any point.

540
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,600
Let's leave it for later when
I'm not here.

541
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,600
Yeah, oh so horrible.
Yeah, I struggle with small.

542
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,440
I struggle with small talk.
That's my problem.

543
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,520
It's a me problem.
I'm admitting my I don't need

544
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,600
you down my throat telling me
that I'm an idiot and horrible.

545
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,680
I know in this situation.
We all knew that anyway.

546
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,560
Though, Yeah, we all knew that
anyway.

547
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,960
We all knew that anyway, right?
There was a quick joke at the

548
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,320
end of this as well.
Just saying.

549
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,400
Ready.
Did you hear about the cheese

550
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,440
explosion?
No.

551
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,000
Well, there was debris
everywhere.

552
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,600
Debris, right?
Swiftly moving on.

553
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,400
No, it all seriousness.
Thank you for that because that

554
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,640
was a really long submission and
it and we really appreciate.

555
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,000
The yeah.
And don't ever come to me with

556
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,040
your problems again.
All your jokes all right.

557
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,480
Right.
Come on Hayden, I've got a

558
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,000
question for you now.
I've been dying to ask you this.

559
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,200
Get ready to perform because I
weren't you.

560
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,120
Succinctly.
There's no guff.

561
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,480
Don't tell me it was a good
question.

562
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,880
And then what was quite around
it while she's thinking straight

563
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,440
into it.
Ready.

564
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,600
Yeah.
Can you explain the 9 tenses as

565
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,880
they are taught in year 6?
As I've never been able to get

566
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,920
my head around it.
Yes, thank you.

567
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,760
OK.
Ready.

568
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,920
Oh, should I?
Could I?

569
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,080
It's like that teacher at
school.

570
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,800
Can I go to the toilet?
You can.

571
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,080
I think you can, actually.
Yeah, but.

572
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,840
Would you like to?
Yes.

573
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,120
May I?
Obviously, may I take off?

574
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,880
Yeah.
You can't swear at Christmas,

575
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,800
Sorry.
Just to be clear.

576
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,280
May I tell you to Bushels of fun
off Bushels, Bushels, bushels,

577
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,840
Darcy bushels.
Can't read.

578
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,760
Yeah, look, this guy, right.
Come on.

579
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,640
Right.
OK, ready.

580
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,800
Grid of nine in your head.
Yep.

581
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,720
OK.
Tick tock toe this.

582
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,360
Is gonna be hard.
This is hard of you.

583
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,800
I'm gonna be honest.
I'm gonna shut up.

584
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,160
All right, if they, if you
genuinely want, I'm presuming

585
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,160
this is actually a serious
question.

586
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,000
They actually want to know,
right?

587
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,960
It's not just taking a Mick.
Oh, he's, he's actually sticking

588
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,960
to his word.
He's being quiet.

589
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,080
So here we go then learning
point the 9 tenses.

590
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,440
Think of this grid in your head,
right?

591
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,800
You've got, you've got your
past, your present, your future

592
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,440
down on the left, which we know.
Then across the top you've got

593
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,560
simple, progressive and perfect.
So you've got this grid of nine.

594
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,960
Now we're gonna explain what
they all mean.

595
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,280
So past if we start with a
simple, I always say to the

596
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,040
kids, you know this one because
you've done this all your life.

597
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,960
I've just not put a word on it.
We've not put a name to it.

598
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,880
The simple tense is not what it
sounds like.

599
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,000
It's when you use the simplest
version of the verb.

600
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,960
So if it's jump in present
tense, it's just it's jump.

601
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,840
If it's in the past sense,
typically we put Ed in the

602
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,760
simple version.
Sometimes there's abstract verbs

603
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,000
and we can talk about that.
So jump becomes jumped.

604
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:14,440
I jumped.
I jump in the present and in the

605
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,760
future tense, we often just have
to put will in front.

606
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,320
I will jump.
But the verb jump is still its

607
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,200
most simple version, right?
When you move on to progressive,

608
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,080
you can make the comparisons.
It's a lot easier to understand

609
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,440
because you go to progressive
tense and you go, right, kids,

610
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,280
this is about imagine something
progressing.

611
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,720
It's happening.
These words end in ING.

612
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,400
It's still happening.
So even in the past tense, we

613
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,040
still use the ING version of the
verb.

614
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,520
In fact, we use the ING version
of the verb in all of them.

615
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,880
It's more about the auxiliary
verb that comes before it now,

616
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,600
which changes the tense.
So jump now becomes jumping.

617
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,920
So when we're using progressive,
we want to use jumping.

618
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,720
In all three.
I was jumping was is the the key

619
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,840
thing there.
I am jumping in the present.

620
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,600
I will be jumping.
So it's still different to I

621
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,480
will jump both of them.
You can say, yeah, look, they've

622
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,000
both got words before them, but
it's about the ING in

623
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,400
progressives.
So really easy for kids to pick

624
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,280
that one up ING.
Then you get to the perfect one.

625
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,200
It's a little bit harder to
understand, but I always say to

626
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,800
the kids, look for the words
have, has or had.

627
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,240
When you use those words before
the verb rather than all the

628
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,360
other examples we've done, we're
now in the perfect tense.

629
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,160
And I say to the kids, it makes
it sound like it's been

630
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,440
completed, it's perfected, it's
done.

631
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,960
I have jumped, you know, or I
had jumped and it's really

632
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,280
interesting.
One had and has.

633
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,920
You should look this one up
because the kids, I always get

634
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,240
them to have a debate about
whether it's present tense or

635
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,000
past tense in the perfect form,
because had and has, they sound

636
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,760
really similar.
And it's as simple as had is

637
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,960
past, has is present.
So yeah, but but they both sound

638
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,120
like you said, I had jumped, has
jumped doesn't work with jumped,

639
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,560
but you can use had and has and
it they kind of sound like the

640
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,640
same tense, but they are
actually defined as past and

641
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,920
present.
Then you've got the future.

642
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,960
I will have, I will have jumped.
So you've got I will jump, I

643
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,560
will be jumping, I will have
jumped, and they're all future

644
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,760
tense.
But you've got the simple

645
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,680
because you've got jump, you've
got the progressive because

646
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,680
you've got ING, and you've got
the perfect, the perfect because

647
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,360
you've got the I will have.
Thank God, our next generation

648
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:58,680
of that.
Right.

649
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,560
So you can appreciate now
because I feel that you never

650
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,440
really got into the depth of
that, not at all.

651
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,080
But you can appreciate how like
what every year I taught that I

652
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800
thought this is like this is the
draining.

653
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,240
Like it's so boring.
In fact, probably the worst

654
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,480
thing in the podcast we probably
about 0% presented right now.

655
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,840
No, because I was hooked on
that, knowing that that's a

656
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,360
thing we got to do for our job.
And actually you, that grid was

657
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:20,960
a really cool way.
I can imagine that being like a

658
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,320
working wall, adding stuff to it
as you go, testing out different

659
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,360
verbs, etcetera.
And, you know, the kids need to

660
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:27,560
know it.
It's not our fault at the end of

661
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,720
the day.
Like so any way, that's kind of

662
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,120
helpful, I think even more for
the teacher to get their head

663
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,000
around it.
That was extremely clear to me

664
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,320
what you just did.
It's almost as if you're a

665
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,600
teacher for 10 years.
You know what you did.

666
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,640
Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty good.

667
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,360
Can I finish off with, because
that annoyed me that I couldn't

668
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,080
think of the Haz thing.
She had jumped.

669
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,560
She has jumped.
They sound really similar,

670
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,600
right?
But technically the had puts

671
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,440
pulls it into past tense and the
has pulls it into present tense,

672
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,480
even though they both use
jumped.

673
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,760
And it sounds wrong because I
remember something came up in

674
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,440
the Sats one year about that.
I'm sure it did.

675
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,240
And we had this whole debate
about like, is this present

676
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,400
perfect or the past perfect?
It's all about the had and has.

677
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,320
Yeah.
So, so annoyingly pointless and

678
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,880
so, so excruciating.
I've got a question for you,

679
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,440
though.
So I have a long standing issue

680
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,400
with how tidy and decluttered my
classroom is so much.

681
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,440
I have a reputation for having a
messy and disorganised

682
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,920
classroom.
What can I do?

683
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,280
I feel just overwhelmed by it
all.

684
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,520
Even trying to give kids jobs
hasn't helped dent the cluttered

685
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,160
services.
Do you know what?

686
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,440
I resonated with this because it
was me.

687
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,040
It's the way I am.
Like, are you?

688
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,360
You can't see this on the
camera.

689
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,160
We've got to look at the table
between us right now.

690
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,240
It's it's a plethora of stuff.
Oh yeah, it's been there for

691
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,120
weeks.
Yeah, literally.

692
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:34,160
It's been there for however
long.

693
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,960
I've even got like nail Clippers
there.

694
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,640
I've not, I've not even clipped
my nails here.

695
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,680
Why are nail Clippers?
There, don't worry, there, we've

696
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600
got Marks and Spencer's waggon
wheel for some reason.

697
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,320
But OK, so does.
If that doesn't show you that I

698
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,120
feel this, I don't know what
will.

699
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,200
What I will say is this.
I understand your worry and your

700
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,240
question about this because I
actually do think despite being

701
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,440
someone who's very similar to
you in terms of clutter and mess

702
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,680
everywhere, I always feel much
more ready, organised and just

703
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,160
better in general when my
environment is clear.

704
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,040
So I struggle with it as well.
So I get it and I think it is

705
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,760
something to think about and I
think sometimes we're very quick

706
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,360
to say don't worry about that,
don't do that.

707
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:14,760
Nah, it's pointless.
Do what you want to do.

708
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,520
You're just actually, there are
some points that are just like

709
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,560
objectively better.
And I think having a clean, tidy

710
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,840
environment is really important.
A big thing for me again, if I

711
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,680
look at, you know, times where I
managed to stay on top of it,

712
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,800
would I always fall out of it
eventually?

713
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,440
Yeah, I would honestly.
But you've got to build habits.

714
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,600
You've got to be non negotiable.
You've got to say to yourself.

715
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,320
The big thing for me was if it
takes less than 5 minutes to do

716
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,280
it right now that it almost
always solves every problem.

717
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,000
It's like, oh, could I take
these glasses into the staff

718
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,560
room?
Could I just like sort that pile

719
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,480
of worksheets out that I've got
to go somewhere?

720
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,200
If it takes less than 5 minutes,
do it the moment you think about

721
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720
it. 5 minutes is a long time.
You got a lot done in 5 minutes.

722
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,280
Exactly that.
There was almost nothing that I

723
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,640
couldn't just do.
And honestly, when I just did

724
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,440
it, I realised that it was such
a small thing and that's the

725
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,480
only way to stay on top of
stuff.

726
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Because in a working
environment, everyone who's got

727
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,560
a declutter desk doesn't not use
their desk.

728
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,680
Everyone who's managed to stay
on top of things doesn't not use

729
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,280
their environment for work.
But what they do is at the end

730
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,080
of it, they have non negotiable
off, they tidy up and they sort

731
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,080
it out.
And for me, it was about holding

732
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,440
myself accountable.
And even just having like a

733
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,120
little list that you take off at
the end of every day is a way to

734
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,240
start it where you say, I say to
myself, I don't leave this

735
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,280
classroom until my desk is
clear.

736
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,960
And that was a rule I set
myself.

737
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,480
And when I was annoyed that I
was staying late to clear my

738
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,040
desk every night, it made me
during the day keep it clear

739
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,200
because I knew I'm staying until
this desk is clear.

740
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,200
So you just got to play tricks
with your own mind.

741
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,240
I think a lot of the self help
stuff is a bit of gaffe and just

742
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,920
noise and nonsense are not very
helpful.

743
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,720
But you know what?
Quite a lot of the stuff that's

744
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,720
long standing has been long
standing because it's good

745
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,400
advice.
Try and stay on top of it.

746
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200
You're someone who does it, so
let's throw it over to you then.

747
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,200
You you always have clear
spaces, clear classrooms, tidy.

748
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,720
How do you do it?
I mean, maybe it's pure luck

749
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,360
that it just affects me more.
I don't know, Like it might not

750
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,400
be, but it does affect when it's
cluttered.

751
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,640
I just get affected by it and
I'm like, I can't cope with it.

752
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,360
And I guess the point where I
just need, I need to sort this

753
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,240
out.
But in, in terms of like, it's

754
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,880
still easy to let it get to that
point, though.

755
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,960
I have just built in routines
similar to you.

756
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080
If it takes under 5 minutes,
mine's more like 60 seconds.

757
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,480
Like if it if it takes 60
seconds, do it immediately.

758
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,600
Like don't even question it
anything like just do it

759
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,680
instinctively.
And then yeah, just like you

760
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,320
said, building like make a joke
out of it.

761
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,640
Whatever works for you.
Building a thing where every day

762
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,880
I said, oh, it's my five minute
tidy time that I have to do and

763
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,240
your colleagues know it.
And it's funny, it's like, oh,

764
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,040
he's doing that thing again
because he has to do it every

765
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,560
day.
Because eventually you do that

766
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,320
for three months, it just won't
even be a thing anymore.

767
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,360
You will just do it as a habit.
There was definitely a time

768
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,640
where I didn't do it and I
trained myself to just be a bit

769
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,440
more decluttered and now it's
just natural.

770
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,720
And that's just, it's just
that's it.

771
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,200
I think it's easy sometimes to
look at someone with better

772
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,320
habits than you, like you, for
example, in that you have better

773
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,280
habits than me.
And writer offers like a

774
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520
personality trait or the way
someone is.

775
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Oh yeah, that that that's Ben.
He's really tidy all the time.

776
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,160
Or, oh, Deborah, yeah, she's
always on top of it 'cause

777
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760
that's just how she is.
Well, most of the time people

778
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,520
make themselves that way.
So.

779
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,360
So, yeah.
Do you know what?

780
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,760
I'm really genuinely, you're
asking this question.

781
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,480
I feel like I can speak candidly
about it because I was exactly

782
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,000
the same as you.
And Hayden will attest to that.

783
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,480
I'm like that.
And I think a lot of it, yeah.

784
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,360
It just had to come down to
forcing myself to do it.

785
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,040
And if I can't stay on top of it
every, you know, 5 minutes, I'm

786
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,840
not going to keep my desk clear
all the time.

787
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,160
But you can build in.
OK, Actually, do you know what?

788
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,280
At this point, every single day,
this desk will be clear.

789
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,480
Yeah, OK, cool.
Doesn't matter what happens in

790
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,600
the meantime, throw stuff on it.
Yeah, sheets down there.

791
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,680
But at 5:00 PM, before I leave,
this desk will be clear.

792
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,640
And you just have to force
yourself to have time to do it.

793
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,440
That would be my I.
Agree.

794
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,480
That's all you can do.
I'm gonna read another question.

795
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,640
OK?
It's another really serious one.

796
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,000
If you could choose any
celebrity to be a teaching

797
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,160
assistant, people love these
ones in your classroom.

798
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,600
Who would it be and why?
Aslan.

799
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,080
As I was reading it, I thought,
oh, no, I know he's gonna say.

800
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,200
Now I know he's gonna say,
because Aslan technically is

801
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,000
still a celebrity.
Is he?

802
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,560
He's a mythical celebrity, Yes.
Isn't everyone knows Aslan?

803
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,560
Yeah, yeah.
Someone messaged me and say is

804
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,840
he a mythical creature?
And I was like, no.

805
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,880
I I said to you on the pod, he's
not a mythical.

806
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,480
Creature, I don't care what you
say to me, I don't listen to

807
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,600
you, not listen to random people
on Instagram.

808
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,040
Not here to listen, I'm here to
talk.

809
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,520
You're mainly my soundboard.
Anyway, there's a bit more to

810
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,760
this they say.
I've been thinking about this

811
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,200
and it's such a fun question.
Would you go for someone super

812
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,520
organised, someone who could
keep the kids entertained or

813
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,800
someone who brings unique skills
to the classroom is a good

814
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,240
point.
Me personally, I'd go for

815
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,400
someone who's going to bring the
vibes, someone who I think would

816
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,680
be funny OK, but also someone
with the qualifications and the

817
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,920
understanding.
So I'm thinking like do you know

818
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,640
all them comedians that are like
ex teachers?

819
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,680
If you pick the one I'm
thinking, Oh no, no you're not.

820
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,680
You're not.
Can you carry on?

821
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,320
I was going to carry on until
you interrupt me.

822
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,600
Thank you for your advice and
thank you so much.

823
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,360
I'll allow it.
I'll allow it.

824
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,520
That's fine.
My, my, my ultimate teaching

825
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,360
assistant.
Can you imagine?

826
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,800
Ramesh Ranganathan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

827
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,440
Ramesh Ranganathan in the bat.
But qualifying maths teachers.

828
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,960
You unless you know, you know,
he knows his stuff and he's

829
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,560
bringing the vibes the whole
time.

830
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,400
It'd be hilarious.
You wouldn't stop stuff in.

831
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,040
The kids would have a great
time.

832
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,760
We'd get stuff done.
Would we?

833
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,400
Would we get stuff done?
In my respect, yes.

834
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,080
I'd get what I need to get done.
And me and Ron will just have a

835
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,520
nice little chat as we're going
through.

836
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,320
So Romo, Strang and Nathan would
be my teaching assistant of

837
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,480
choice.
And it would be unbelievable.

838
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Yeah.
It's more for our benefit as

839
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,520
well, isn't it, when you bring
from that?

840
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,360
It's just, well, he's a
qualified match teacher, but.

841
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,880
You're almost, it's cleverer
than mine, annoyingly, because I

842
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,600
was also thinking a comedian,
but I thought Bob Mortimer.

843
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,560
I was like, I think maybe
because I just want to hang out

844
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,960
with Bob Mortimer.
But Can you imagine how funny

845
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,360
Bob Mortimer would be in the
classroom?

846
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,560
It would just be the most fun.
Wouldn't get anything done.

847
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,400
Probably not practical.
Actually, no, come on, I'm

848
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,440
thinking of it at least.
At least you brought a bit of

849
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,200
like ex teacher with it.
Comedians, yeah, there we go.

850
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,960
That's what we want.
Because every teaching

851
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,080
assistant, right, that I've ever
worked with has been, has just

852
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,160
brought the vibes, you know what
I mean?

853
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Like if I'm thinking about the
best teaching assistants who I

854
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,400
loved working with as as a
teacher in a classroom, which is

855
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920
people we got on with who liked
the kids.

856
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,280
And we we acted as a team.
The kids knew they could come to

857
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,280
either of us for help.
We're just both adults in the

858
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,800
room.
Equal standing because we are

859
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,239
equal standing.
I don't care what people say.

860
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,880
Yeah, I might have planned a
lesson.

861
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,239
Great.
We're both helping you in this

862
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,480
lesson to understand this thing.
We're both just as important as

863
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,560
so, yeah, having someone like
Romesh, I think it would be an

864
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,760
unbelievable laugh.
I've got one more, one more who

865
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,199
still fits in this line of,
like, comedian Stephen Fry,

866
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,639
Stephen.
Like, he's funny.

867
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,199
Yeah.
And he's unbelievably smart.

868
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,719
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Honestly, I think I just let him

869
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,239
take over, Yeah.
Yeah, I'll be this, Yeah.

870
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:40,199
I'll be watching, Yeah,
literally.

871
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,679
I'll just, I'll just, I'll just
let him take the reins.

872
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,080
But yeah, I mean, it'd be
unbelievable, absolutely

873
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,719
unbelievable.
But Ramesh probably gets to

874
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,159
teach an assistant wage from
half a show.

875
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,360
So.
Yeah, yeah.

876
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,800
Is there mate if you want to
come along?

877
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,960
I think all these people might
do.

878
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,639
Yeah, yeah, literally.
So that'll be my one comedian.

879
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,920
Is is the vibe because I just
think, yeah, we're going to get

880
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,360
the work done.
Yeah, Remember, let's have a

881
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,480
good time.
Fun place to be.

882
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,680
OK, Next question.
What do you think in the future

883
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,440
of AI looks like in the
classroom?

884
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:07,400
I feel like I already use it a
lot.

885
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,440
I rely on it to write emails to
parents, create my slides, and

886
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160
more than once I've used ideas
it suggested for lessons.

887
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,320
Is this a good thing, or could
it make teachers more lazy and

888
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,840
less creative over time?
How do we strike the right

889
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,840
balance between using AI as a
helpful tool and maintaining our

890
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,720
own professional skills?
I have no worries about it at

891
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:25,640
all.
I don't know if you do.

892
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,400
I don't think it will make
teachers lazy.

893
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,160
I think it will make teachers
lazy in the same way Twinkle

894
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,320
make teachers lazy.
Yeah, Here's all your resources.

895
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,360
What?
No, that's gonna be just lazy

896
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,760
teachers taking off.
Twinkle wouldn't.

897
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,200
It that doesn't happen,
creativity to me, it like the

898
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,400
biggest part of creativity to me
is teachers in the classroom

899
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,120
delivering lessons.
That is it to me.

900
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,920
I feel like people always miss
that when they're talking about

901
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,640
creativity.
I'm like, no, creativity isn't

902
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,760
genuinely isn't the picture they
generated or the picture they

903
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,800
got from Google to put on that
slide.

904
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560
That isn't the creativity.
It is how they've delivered the

905
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,520
lesson to, to maximise the
engagement of all of their

906
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,160
pupils, which is bespoke every
single time they do it because

907
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,280
they've got a different make up
of of children every time.

908
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,040
That's creativity and teaching.
You can be so creative and have

909
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,320
the same slides from last year.
Exactly, exactly right.

910
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,720
So to me, AI is a has been and
currently is a force for good.

911
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:13,840
I think all it's doing is
reducing workload.

912
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,440
It's taking.
It's reducing the burden of

913
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,240
admin tasks that don't
necessarily need 5 hours of

914
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:20,920
teacher time to spend on it.
It could be done in two hours

915
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,280
with the support of a tool like
it.

916
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,560
They they it doesn't.
To me, that's just a good thing.

917
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000
I've also found this might be
controversial, but I heard

918
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,080
someone else say this and I, I
really agreed with it that using

919
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,080
AI has allowed me to be more
creative.

920
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,880
It's enhanced to my creativity
and I get, I get the drawbacks

921
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,000
people explain about how AI is
just scraping the Internet and

922
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,280
taking other people's work and
then passing off as it's own,

923
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,480
etcetera.
I never, I never don't think

924
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,440
that.
But like, I'd be going to Google

925
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,960
and doing that.
Yeah, what, what is Google?

926
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,240
Google is the Internet.
Like I'm taking ideas from other

927
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:53,560
people all the time when I'm
going online and finding ideas,

928
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,840
I'm being creative.
What AI allows me to do is gives

929
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,040
me ideas.
I bin some and I take some and I

930
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,280
try some bits with it like, oh,
I didn't like 8 of them, but I

931
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,800
did like three of them.
Let's take these three, let's

932
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,680
try it.
Oh, actually, you know, as I'm

933
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,400
being creative and thinking
about it, this point works.

934
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,440
I've got a couple left.
Yeah, yeah, it refines it.

935
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,520
It makes me more creative if
anything, personally.

936
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,640
I get the, you know, I really do
think it's a separate

937
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,160
conversation we can have about
the environment, environmental

938
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,640
impact.
That is not something that I'm

939
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,560
saying doesn't exist because I'm
being up the pros of artificial

940
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,640
intelligence.
And I also do think though, that

941
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,280
there is a bit of an
overstatement about what AI will

942
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,520
do for workload and for teachers
in general.

943
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,720
Because it is very much painted
a lot of the time by either

944
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,800
people who have stakes in AI
companies or by the government

945
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,520
themselves as something that
will completely solve the

946
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,960
teacher problem of workload and
over the top thing.

947
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,280
No, it won't.
It won't completely solve it at

948
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,320
all.
It will put a dent in it, sure.

949
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,320
Yeah, it will help it.
Absolutely.

950
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,400
The only thing that will
actually put an end to teacher

951
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,880
workload and overwork.
Teachers and teachers being

952
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,040
exploited is top down changing
of what's expected of a teacher

953
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,120
of their job role.
Yeah, yeah.

954
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,520
Oh, cool.
Now my reports only take me two

955
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,920
hours instead of eight.
Cool.

956
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,240
Do I?
Do I have that two hours though

957
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,200
in my timetable?
Oh, no, I've still got to do

958
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,440
that on my own time.
Oh, right.

959
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,400
OK, cool.
Will AI just make lessons for me

960
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,160
off the bat?
No, of course not.

961
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,720
Because like you just said, if
you just take it from AI

962
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,400
immediately and don't do any
checking or whatsoever or any

963
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,160
planning or look at the medium
term plan or the long term plan

964
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,320
of what you're delivering for
the kids, you can't leave that

965
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,200
just to AI.
You have to have the process of

966
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,120
you as the professional in the
middle.

967
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,960
If you use it as a tool, it's
fantastic, but the better the

968
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,360
OK.
Here's my overall point.

969
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:42,080
In my opinion, a teacher who
uses AI best will not solve

970
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,680
workload problems from AI.
Sure it will just it help.

971
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,320
It will add to your workflow.
Yeah, it will help you in

972
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,000
certain circumstances with tasks
that can be done admini, but it

973
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,800
won't replace what we say a
million times, which is, yeah,

974
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,320
well, I do have 20 lessons to
deliver this week and I need to

975
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,160
plan them.
And from the top down they're

976
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,240
saying we're using this scheme
now.

977
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,440
What do you think AI is going to
do for that?

978
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,840
It's not going to solve it
completely.

979
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,960
Yeah, when you're saying that, I
can clearly envisage something

980
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,000
in my mind of like the almost
like a graph or something, like

981
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,440
you've got the amount of time.
Three by three grade, three by

982
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,000
three grade but.
No, you're right, because it's

983
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,560
like it's all automatically, all
of this stuff that it is helping

984
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,800
solve in terms of reducing
workload.

985
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,040
It's already extra.
And even if you get it down from

986
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600
9 hours to two hours, it's still
on top is the point.

987
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,760
There's a systemic issue where
like these jobs fundamentally

988
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,120
are happening outside of school
hours.

989
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,000
So yet reducing them from 9
hours to two hours is obviously

990
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,280
great, but the fact that they're
still 2 hours outside of, you

991
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,480
know, director time, what you're
paid for is still the issue.

992
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,560
Like a fundamental down below.
But yeah, I just, yeah, I

993
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,000
couldn't agree.
So what do you think in the

994
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,640
future, education with AI looks
like to me, it's going to be

995
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,320
like an indispensable tool.
Yeah.

996
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,120
It'll be built into stuff.
And we use it all the time in

997
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,120
the same way, like you said,
relying on it for sending

998
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,640
parents emails.
Absolutely.

999
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,080
In every aspect of our business,
there's been points where we've

1000
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,240
fought.
Oh, can you just tidy up this

1001
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:05,280
letter for me?
I've written out.

1002
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,000
I want these points.
Can you just make it for me?

1003
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,080
It's professional.
It's to the point you still read

1004
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,040
it after.
It's not replacing the human.

1005
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,040
We've talked about this a
million times.

1006
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,200
Well, the content, but it.
Yeah, it's it's.

1007
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,680
It's speeding stuff up though,
isn't it?

1008
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,200
Yeah, yeah.
I still, I still told it what I

1009
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,240
needed it to write.
It just did.

1010
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,600
It just jazzed it up for me, you
know?

1011
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,600
Exactly that.
So OK, let's.

1012
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,800
Make it more interesting.
Let's skip.

1013
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,960
Let's skip quite far into the
future then, because I know

1014
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,840
we've had this discussion before
and I want to revisit it and see

1015
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,240
your brain actually, because
you, you often like will change

1016
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,240
your mind and just go around
with AI because there's lots, so

1017
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:31,560
much, so many advancements so
quickly.

1018
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,080
In 20 years, do you think AI
there will be AI teachers like

1019
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,400
legitimately like in schools, in
classrooms, actual like straight

1020
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,240
up AI things teaching kids?
Yeah, definitely.

1021
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,600
Yeah, absolutely.
So it got beyond the tool then?

1022
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,000
Yeah, it will go beyond the.
Tool.

1023
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,880
Oh yeah.
Because right now I think it's

1024
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,680
just a glorified.
Tool Oh yeah, look two years ago

1025
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,080
on what videos it was creating.
It was nonsense when people

1026
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,000
laughed at it.
People who didn't like AI were

1027
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,280
like.
Look at this nonsense.

1028
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,960
He's not even can't even do a
hand, probably.

1029
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,120
This video is ridiculous of Will
Smith eating spaghetti.

1030
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,040
It's coming out of his eyeballs.
Look at it now.

1031
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,840
Yeah, yeah.
It's unbelievable.

1032
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,720
It's cinematic.
It's so realistic.

1033
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:10,040
That's going to happen 20 years.
What do you think will happen in

1034
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,360
20 years?
I give it five years Max.

1035
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,280
I, I've always said this,
20/27/2020, 8:00 will be the

1036
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,760
first time.
I think when we're just like, oh

1037
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,200
crap, life has completely
changed for humanity because of

1038
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,000
the power of these things that
we've got right now.

1039
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,840
I think then is when we'll
really start to think there is

1040
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,200
no turning back here.
Things are going to

1041
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,480
fundamentally change.
And I'm not saying it's a good

1042
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,360
thing or a bad thing.
I'm not saying it's an any.

1043
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,720
I'm just saying it's a thing.
In 20 years time, will there be

1044
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,000
an AI teacher in a classroom
helping children?

1045
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:38,320
Absolutely.
There will be.

1046
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,760
Yeah.
Don't think it will replace the

1047
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,400
teacher.
As in a lot of lose teachers, a

1048
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,000
lot of time.
Yeah.

1049
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,080
Because I don't think you'll
ever be able to replace the

1050
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,160
human touch.
No, no, listen, I don't think so

1051
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:47,960
either.
I, I agree with you.

1052
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:48,720
Right, Right.
Right.

1053
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,200
But I, I, I, I'm not saying it's
a better thing.

1054
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,760
I'm not saying we're doing this
because we really care about our

1055
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,960
kids.
We're doing it because it'll

1056
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,040
save money.
Right.

1057
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,720
We're doing it because it will
get to a point where it's good

1058
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,120
enough to do that job.
Yeah.

1059
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,320
It's good enough to give
individualised feedback

1060
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,400
immediately to every single
child.

1061
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,720
Why do we use tech now, right?
We use tech now to get

1062
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,480
individualised super quick
feedback.

1063
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,360
We're doing it with math super.
I think we're getting

1064
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,280
individualised instant feedback
to empower the teacher to teach.

1065
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,960
AI is going to do that on every
single level.

1066
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,000
Eventually it's going to know
the child better than the

1067
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,120
teacher could.
That's going to be true in terms

1068
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,600
in terms of the the data, in
terms of the ability of the

1069
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,000
child to answer questions.
It will be able to store and

1070
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,160
understand and know in nought
point, nought 1 seconds, what

1071
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,600
thousands of kids can and can't
do.

1072
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,160
There's no way a human will ever
be able to do that.

1073
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,160
It will outstrip a lot of what a
teacher can do quickly and

1074
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,440
easily with ease.
It will.

1075
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,760
It will give a targeted set of
10 questions to a child that

1076
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,920
will help them the most, quicker
and better than a teacher ever

1077
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,880
could.
What'll be the role of a

1078
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,200
teacher?
The role of a teacher will be

1079
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,920
more, it'll be more pastoral,
it'll be more human connection.

1080
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,720
It'll be more, you know, a
metaphorical arm around the

1081
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,800
child helping them.
It will be more about that side

1082
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,560
of actual humanity in my
opinion.

1083
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,960
Managerial.
Managerial understanding stuff

1084
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,120
that is the way it will go down
because there will be a point

1085
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,320
where you cannot argue that on
the academic data side, it's 10

1086
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,840
times better than human.
I don't like that image no OK, I

1087
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,920
don't I'd rather have tools that
empower the teacher to be a

1088
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,600
better teacher at the kind of
level right now or will be for

1089
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,800
the next couple of years.
I think for the next couple of

1090
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,720
years of artificial
intelligence, we'll see things

1091
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:26,000
progress where we're like, Oh my
God, that's unbelievable for the

1092
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,000
teacher.
Wow, we've got rid of all the

1093
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,640
admin tasks and this is given
really targeted.

1094
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,360
This is amazing.
And the more very quickly go,

1095
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,560
oh, crap, yeah, I could have 60
kids in this one room.

1096
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,000
No, because they're cracking.
Oh, they already get an

1097
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,160
individual.
Oh, but there's no reason why it

1098
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,400
can't be 100 kids.
Oh, crap.

1099
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,520
Yeah, suddenly.
Oh, wait a minute, teachers.

1100
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,640
Oh, geez.
So I don't, I'm not saying it's

1101
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,480
a good thing.
I'm saying I think that's what

1102
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,440
will happen if you give it 20
years.

1103
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,440
Birth rates going through the
floor, We'll need fewer teachers

1104
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,880
anyway.
And I just think from a money

1105
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,880
saving point of view it will go
down that route.

1106
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,240
Isn't end game capitalism just
beautiful?

1107
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Yeah.
As I say, all we do as humanity

1108
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,200
now is just strive.
How can we secure the most

1109
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,720
profit for shareholders?
How can we reduce how much money

1110
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,480
we're spending on people and
things to maximise the yield for

1111
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,640
everybody else?
Yeah.

1112
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,040
No, it's including our
shareholders meeting and all our

1113
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,160
business soon.
So we'll be pitching some AI

1114
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,280
then to maximise the.
Yield no listen, look, I think

1115
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,360
we will see the benefits for
quite a few years.

1116
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,560
Still, it will get to a point
where, like, like when we've

1117
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,000
been cutting school funding for
20 years without AI.

1118
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,920
Yeah.
What do you think AI is going to

1119
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,840
do to that?
Yeah, just keep.

1120
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,040
Do you think it's going to speed
it up?

1121
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,120
Yeah, of course it will.
Well, I think that that recent

1122
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,600
budget thing that came out the
review, sorry the quick them

1123
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,480
yeah already like kind of hinted
at it I thought.

1124
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,520
It basically said and AI will
solve all these problems.

1125
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,840
Yeah, like it's basically an AI.
We don't have to fix the things

1126
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,880
now because AI can come in and
just reduce the workload in a

1127
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,640
different way so we can continue
cutting the budgets.

1128
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,800
That's how that's how it made me
feel.

1129
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,080
I was like.
And then we were like, oh,

1130
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,200
that's weird.
In what way?

1131
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:56,840
Yeah.
Yeah.

1132
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,520
And like, because the only way
AI can help out with budgets and

1133
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,040
stuff is if it means we lose
staff because of it.

1134
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,520
So isn't this fantastic?
AI has solved all the budgetary

1135
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,200
problems.
Half the teachers are in school

1136
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,440
now.
You.

1137
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,720
Don't need ATA anymore because
the AI does this role and we'll

1138
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,880
ignore the other parts of a role
of ATA and just ham up the fact

1139
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,280
that it can do this thing.
Exactly.

1140
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,280
And for so long the focus from
government and top down has been

1141
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,040
on the things that AI will do
really well.

1142
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,880
And that's my worry because it
because the focus will be on

1143
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,680
education data, moving data
points, getting them to this

1144
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,520
expected level, giving them
blah, blah, blah, because that's

1145
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,720
what only the people in charge
care about.

1146
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,720
AI will will do that really
well.

1147
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Everything else that we talk
about a million times, like all

1148
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,000
the outside agencies being cut a
million times with the way

1149
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,120
teachers have to turn into
therapists or be doctors or help

1150
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,840
the kids out and build
relationships, etcetera.

1151
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, you can't.

1152
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,800
You can't measure that.
I think we're going down that

1153
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,440
route.
Yeah, I mean, not long.

1154
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,720
And this podcast will just be a
prompt.

1155
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,120
No, no.
This is actually an AI powered

1156
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,840
podcast right now, brought to
you by Anthropic.

1157
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,520
Yes, we're not real, we're just
that same thing would be sat

1158
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,640
laughing with our profit yield.
Look how look at these We've

1159
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,120
just released 17 podcasts.
Today, 50% of nothing, there's

1160
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,600
still nothing.
Yeah.

1161
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,240
So, yeah, I don't know if that
sounded bleak or not.

1162
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,520
That's just what I think.
Yeah, like I'm depressed from

1163
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,200
that.
Yeah.

1164
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,400
So thanks, mate.
That's all right.

1165
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,760
If you could create your ideal
teacher lineup famous people.

1166
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,920
From past to present.
Who makes the team?

1167
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Wow.
Well #1 ChatGPT and goal #2

1168
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,600
Google Gemini They.
Put some examples here.

1169
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,480
Ronaldo teaches PE Yeah.
Would you be online with that?

1170
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,560
You're, you're a football man.
Well.

1171
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,280
That's Einstein teaching science
and stuff.

1172
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,880
Let's go a few through a few,
OK, right now.

1173
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:51,360
So PEII think Ronaldo's, I don't
think he's got the right

1174
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,520
attitude in terms of he
definitely loves himself a bit

1175
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,120
too much.
We're trying to we're trying to

1176
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,200
give off that.
OK, so I don't know about that.

1177
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,440
Maybe I.
Watch a lot of sports is.

1178
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,600
I do watch a lot of sport, like
someone like Roger Federer, OK.

1179
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,400
Classy wise, knows his stuff.
Yeah.

1180
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,640
I think that he'd be a great,
cool looking.

1181
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,720
Yeah.
Exactly that.

1182
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,920
Yeah.
That's exactly important.

1183
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,480
Yeah.
Yeah.

1184
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,920
I'd say, I'd say Roger Federer.
I think you need a bit of that.

1185
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,040
Don't get me wrong.
We're now don't need that

1186
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,160
cutting edge like someone like,
you know, you know, Tiger Woods.

1187
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,640
Yeah.
Definitely had the arrogance

1188
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,240
about him.
That's good.

1189
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:25,600
And I think Roger Federer does
as well.

1190
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:26,840
But I just really like Roger
Federer.

1191
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,280
So Federer's doing PE.
Fair enough.

1192
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,280
I'd go Andy Murray, you know,
just.

1193
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Is it?
Is it?

1194
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,840
Have you got Andy Murray?
Because it's the only tennis

1195
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,280
player you know.
Yeah, so moving on to science.

1196
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,000
Science.
Good one.

1197
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,080
Science too fair.
Brian Cox.

1198
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,480
I thought Brian Cox I.
Just love Brian Cox because I

1199
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,400
feel like when I was younger
reading his books and watching

1200
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,160
his things, I was like, he's
like, he's making me interested

1201
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,520
in the subject.
He's the ultimate teacher.

1202
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,560
Yeah, definitely, Definitely.
So Brian Cox on science.

1203
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,920
We've got Roger Federer on PE.
Yeah, maths Einstein.

1204
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,320
I felt like Einstein for maths.
That was because he was like

1205
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,280
pure mathematician in terms of
like his pure mouse.

1206
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920
He was unreal and he's
inspirational in terms of what

1207
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,680
he did, like maths.
Great hair as well.

1208
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,280
I'm jealous.
Again, cool looking, Yeah.

1209
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,240
Important.
Oh, I don't know.

1210
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:12,920
Didn't come to mind.
Malory Blackman.

1211
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,920
Oh, she yeah, because she did.
You don't know who malory?

1212
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,600
Blackman I don't, I don't know
what is wrong.

1213
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,080
I feel like I should the way
you're looking at.

1214
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,320
Me.
You don't know anyone, I swear.

1215
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,760
I'm ashamed.
No, Anyone I I mean.

1216
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,360
I listen I listen books
Cloudbusting.

1217
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,120
We did that in year 4 poetry
book like for the.

1218
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,000
Poem, love it.
You've I've not read it.

1219
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,400
Noughts and crosses.
Love that as well.

1220
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,240
I got turned into BBC show
Noughts and crosses did it.

1221
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,440
Pig heart boy.
I've heard of that one probably.

1222
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,240
Is that because of the CBBCO?
No, probably because have you

1223
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:41,280
done, have you done that?
No.

1224
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,360
OK.
I've heard of that one.

1225
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,200
I know that one.
Don't know what is that about it

1226
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,880
but.
Unbelievable writer, love her

1227
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,560
books and I've I've heard her
speak a few times.

1228
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,480
I think she would be
inspirational as well for the

1229
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,120
kids.
I agree.

1230
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,240
So who are you going to go for?
English.

1231
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,800
No, I agree fully,
wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly

1232
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:55,880
She's.
Right.

1233
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,800
OK, yeah, OK.
So we've got bass, English,

1234
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:03,920
science, PE, music.
Oh, oh, do they have to be

1235
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,120
alive?
No.

1236
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,680
OK, can I pick Freddie Mercury?
Yeah, corpse at the front.

1237
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,360
Freddie Mercury when he was
alive.

1238
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,160
Probably a great teacher.
Why why why?

1239
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,360
Freddie Mercury?
Inspirational music you just

1240
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,880
like for Freddie Mercury.
You're not actually thinking

1241
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,520
about the fact they'll be the
teacher, you're just thinking

1242
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,680
of.
Yeah, who do I know?

1243
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:26,720
In this role, that would be the
good thing, right?

1244
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:29,040
Because the answer to this
question for music, if you're

1245
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,560
wondering, is John Williams,
that is who you have.

1246
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,960
I thought that's.
Such a good phone.

1247
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,360
You are an idiot you're not
really thinking of.

1248
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,200
Course, of course it is.
Or hand Zimmer.

1249
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Yeah, I'd literally have to say
or hand Zimmer because we had a,

1250
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,800
I'm pretty sure we spent a good
hour in a car we did a few weeks

1251
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,880
ago.
The differences between them.

1252
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,520
Discussing and how they're both
like generational.

1253
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,240
Town John Williams is is OK,
here's what I'm going to say

1254
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,600
about John Williams.
He is the individual in the

1255
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,840
whole world who I have the the
most admiration and respectful

1256
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,440
and cannot believe his talent.
Yeah, like he is on a.

1257
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,400
Pedestal right?
So you think he basically you

1258
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,760
think he is the most talented
person in the world when you

1259
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,760
take into account like the
respective talents you could?

1260
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,040
Have yeah, I I think that yeah.
And and come at me if I'm if

1261
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,800
everything something different.
But for me, me personally, when

1262
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,640
I see and hear his work or watch
him compose in his like 90s when

1263
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,960
he's doing it, I and and see how
the music links with the story

1264
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,680
that he didn't write for the
film.

1265
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,720
He's not making at his.
I and it's perfect and it makes

1266
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:28,680
you feel things that you've
never even felt in your life

1267
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,280
before.
Through him conducting hundreds

1268
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,720
of instruments with it's and it
and and it starts with nothing,

1269
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,520
a blank bit of paper and this
bloke goes and just write.

1270
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,040
It's like. 17 instruments would
sound good at the same time.

1271
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,000
Unbelievable.
OK.

1272
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,400
Unbelievable.
Like I am such a fanboy.

1273
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,720
Yeah, he's my #1.
Yeah, yeah, and he and keeping

1274
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,240
it festive, he wrote.
We wish you a Merry Christmas.

1275
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:51,200
No, he didn't.
No, he didn't.

1276
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,320
Bringing nothing to this.
You looked at me like, no, he

1277
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,200
did that.
I did.

1278
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,560
No, actually, don't look to you
like that's not his level.

1279
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,960
Yeah, that's not his level.
Yeah.

1280
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,360
No, no, that is below him.
No, too busy doing Star Wars.

1281
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,240
I love how in this conversation
you're clearly saying I need to

1282
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,800
show I know some stuff.
Yeah, yes, he's doing the Star

1283
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,920
Wars busy.
Doing the Star Wars and the

1284
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,320
Harry Potter or was that Hans
Zimmer?

1285
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,840
No.
Tom Williams, Harry Potter,

1286
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,920
Edwick's theme.
Yeah, very good.

1287
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,680
Well done.
So yeah.

1288
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,200
Is there any other subjects I'm
missing here?

1289
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,200
Probably.
Probably.

1290
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,720
We've done 4, so almost
definitely.

1291
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,480
History, history, history.
Yeah.

1292
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,800
Oh God, no.
I'm not going to say anything

1293
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,000
here.
Who do you want?

1294
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,520
You could have anyone in the
world who's the history teacher

1295
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,880
of choice.
Greg Jenner.

1296
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,800
That's a really good show.
We've had him on the podcast and

1297
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,840
picked him up and he's a celeb.
I wanted to mug you off because

1298
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,400
I know you don't know anything,
but that is a really good show.

1299
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,000
Greg Jenner would be the
ultimate.

1300
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,080
Yeah, he's sick.
He would be.

1301
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,280
When we were talking to him, I
was thinking he would be such an

1302
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,840
unbelievable.
I mean, he is basically he was

1303
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,440
inspiring me.
Wouldn't he wouldn't take it,

1304
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,440
would he wouldn't take the
compliment of he is a teacher.

1305
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,000
He is.
He's already teaching so many

1306
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,560
people.
What do you think it was someone

1307
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,000
else?
Can you?

1308
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,000
Imagine this staff room.
Yeah, yeah.

1309
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,000
Well, interesting.
Wouldn't.

1310
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,960
It believable, No, do you know
what I was thinking on the same

1311
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,160
lines and I couldn't remember
his name, which is really

1312
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,400
frustrating me after me giving
you all the screen, but the the

1313
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,680
guy who wrote horrible history
books right, like that guy

1314
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,720
himself.
I can't remember his name.

1315
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,400
It's really frustrating me down
in the Spotify comments.

1316
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,480
Let me know because I've been
recently reading a book.

1317
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,960
He's he's written as well, on
and off over like the 10 biggest

1318
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,200
enemies of Britain.
And it's written like it's for

1319
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,440
adults, that book.
Yeah.

1320
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,600
But it's like you can tell it's
got the bit of comedy and stuff

1321
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,760
as it goes through.
So I just think it's quite

1322
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,280
engaging.
So yeah, someone like that.

1323
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,800
Yeah.
And you have a job.

1324
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,080
One more job is boring, let's do
job.

1325
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,760
Is on like Richard Joe Fish.
Sorry, Joe.

1326
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,640
Fish, I'm sorry, geography
teachers, but it's just getting

1327
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,120
them in.
We're going to food tech.

1328
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,000
Food tech.
Oh, food.

1329
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,800
Tech you put a food tech about
drug fees?

1330
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,400
Wild.
No, just in terms of like the

1331
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,280
interest of this question, OK,
go ahead because because you've

1332
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,400
got famous chefs who.
Would you want?

1333
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,040
Ramsey Yeah.
I mean, there's so many.

1334
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:52,520
Famous.
He could.

1335
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,320
He could build up resilience as
well, Yeah.

1336
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,800
Yeah, by swearing at the
children and selling them the

1337
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,560
terrible Yeah, Yeah, cooler than
bread sandwiches.

1338
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,680
No, I think for food tech I'd
have my teach would be that guy

1339
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,240
on YouTube whose video I've
searched every time I cook an

1340
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:07,560
egg on how to cook an egg,
probably.

1341
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,800
Yeah, I watch that video about
500 times.

1342
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,320
Beard meats, food maybe?
Beard Meats.

1343
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,280
Can't be the foods I teach.
All he does is eat everything.

1344
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,000
He just eats all the ingredients
raw.

1345
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,760
Just like oh sorry kids can't
cook anything.

1346
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,200
I'm eating them all again.
What's?

1347
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,160
They get AT shirt you got to put
in got to put in this he's.

1348
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,880
Funny, I also said bread
sandwich instead of idiot

1349
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,120
sandwich for Gordon Ramsay and
I'm I'm.

1350
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,960
Well, you're famous for.
Getting a little bit more fried,

1351
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,920
a little bit mortified if we're.
Getting that quite wrong.

1352
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,400
Yeah, very, very, very, very,
very bad.

1353
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,640
Anyway, Anyway.
Well.

1354
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,680
They go, there's only school and
the head teacher obviously is.

1355
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,880
Oh.
No really obvious one.

1356
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,200
Obvious.
Oh no, it's.

1357
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,840
Very clear who?
Big man, Father Christmas.

1358
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,600
You said big, so funny, big man.
I was like, Oh no, what big

1359
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,080
celebrities am I missing?
Oh, Father Christmas, the big

1360
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,080
dog theory from slavery traders.
Also Jonathan Rosser.

1361
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,560
Who's the Jonathan Rosser is
Santa Claus?

1362
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,000
I don't know.
Santa Claus, Yeah, Father

1363
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,720
Christmas called.
Generous, kind, giving.

1364
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,120
Yeah.
All the things you want from a

1365
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,040
good head teacher.
Yeah, that's true.

1366
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,720
He'd be the man.
Turns out once a year.

1367
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,440
Don't be rude.
I'm not rude.

1368
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,600
Don't be rude, head teachers.
Isn't it a joke?

1369
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,840
It's a joke, isn't it?
Is it a joke?

1370
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,120
No.
They're not listening.

1371
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,080
Good way.
Well done.

1372
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,520
It's Christmas.
Brought this down now it's

1373
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:17,760
Christmas.
Right, guys?

1374
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,240
We're going to finish up.
There it is.

1375
00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:20,120
Very nearly.
Merry Christmas.

1376
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,760
Hope you have an amazing time if
you celebrate.

1377
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,400
And if you don't, hope you had a
great time anyway.

1378
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,440
Yeah, why wouldn't?
I and don't forget to tune in

1379
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,880
next week.
Oh yeah, we're about to film

1380
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,960
that one now, so we're wearing
the same clothes.

1381
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:30,360
See you then.