Ep 153: Listener Questions: Covering Sick Leave, Teacher Wellbeing Fads & Why Arithmetic Is Vital!

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Hello everyone, and welcome back
to another episode of Teach

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Sleep Repeat.
My name is Dylan and my name is

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Hayden, and I have successfully
transferred my cold over to you.

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Yes.
As you can tell from the sound

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of my voice.
And This is why, when we say if

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you're I'll, you should stay at
home, This is why.

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Because now you're all groggy
and I didn't want to give you

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that benefit.
I really hoped we'd learned

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something from COVID.
I'm sorry, I can't.

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I can't get past the way you're
speaking around.

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I really hoped we would learn
some people.

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Don't be laugh either.
I also can't laugh on this

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podcast.
It's not right.

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I was hoping that we'd pick up
the fact that wearing masks is

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actually really polite to other
people and you didn't wear a

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mask last week.
Sheeple sheeple following big

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medicine sheeple.
Wasn't that mad?

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Yeah, wasn't that mad.
Because they were the biggest

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sheeps of all.
Yeah.

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Weren't they following and
flocking to anyone who said a

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mask?
Yeah, Well, someone in a big

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suit said do this.
I'm not going to do it.

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I know better than them.
Herd immunity or something that

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I heard online.
What's your hands?

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And sing happy birthday.
OK, That.

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That that lasted a long time,
didn't it?

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Anyway, let's not let's not get
bogged down by all that.

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Hey, no, I've got a nice story
to start us off with this Q&A.

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This that's not a question or
answer, not a question or answer

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from our lovely WhatsApp
community, which you can join

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down below if you want to be
submitting questions for the

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future.
However, I'd have a story gone

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and I thought, this is too good
to pass up.

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I used to work at insert Academy
name.

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I'm not going to name and shame
them.

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We used to have an annual show.
I'm not going to name the show

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as anonymous as possible.
Essentially a PE in gymnastics

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show.
All staff were attending as

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Marshalls.
Marshalls and stewards directed

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time of course.
I'd love to hear that.

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During the same week this
finished past 10:00 PM, we had a

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meeting and a parents evening.
Everyone was utterly exhausted

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by the Friday.
On the Friday morning, this

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deputy head, she's now the head
teacher, saw me and commented

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that I looked annoyed.
Me of course I am.

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About 3 or 8 nights this week I
haven't been able to go to the

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gym or my rugby training well
because of the early starts and

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the late finishes with SLT and
meetings.

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I haven't seen my daughter awake
since Monday morning.

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That's the level of dedication
you have to have in this job.

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I left the school like a
greyhound in the next transfer

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window.
Yeah, that is just not something

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to be proud of, is it?
I can't imagine saying that we

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were smart.
I can't imagine saying that in

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any kind of positive way.
I haven't seen River in a week

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because I've been working so
bloody hard.

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Us teachers, let's make sure
everyone knows how hard I work.

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No, I don't care.
Yeah.

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You know what?
I I I'd hear that and I'd feel a

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bit sorry for them.
Yeah, genuinely.

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And the daughter?
Yeah, let's not forget the

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daughter here.
Your child hasn't seen you in a

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week.
I love.

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How it said that I've seen my
daughter awake since Monday

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morning.
It's like, it's like, so she's

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just getting up there early and
even and getting home.

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What I, what I don't get is I,
I've, I understand why people

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are in situations with their
work where they might not see

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their family for a while.
I kind of get that.

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I understand that it's not, and
they really don't like that, but

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they're like, I've got to do
this.

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So I really don't want to just
put a blanket thing down here.

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My, my big issue here is #1A
member of your staff team has

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said how annoyed they are at the
late nights of the week.

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They've not been able to do what
they want to do, get in their

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hobbies, etcetera.
And you think it's almost like,

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well, I'm in a worse situation.
Yeah, Yeah.

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Isn't that the kind of thing we
all have to do?

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And it's just so insane to me
that you'd go to that rather

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than going to.
I'm sorry you feel that way.

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Let's work to make it better.
I've.

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I've got it worse than you, so
you need to.

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Be happy with that.
I can't stand people in general,

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but obviously let's put it in
the context of SLT within our

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line of work, who have they have
to bring people down to their

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level.
Whatever The thing is, the

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whatever the sacrifice is
they're doing, it is just an

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expectation.
There's there's no thought

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trying to 10 should is this good
for me?

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Is this a sacrifice?
Should everyone be doing it?

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Should I really be making sure
that the school ethos is like

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this as well?
Because, you know, just because

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I'm doing it, it's just, well,
I'm doing it and throw my toys

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out the pram when no one else is
doing.

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No one else is sacrificing their
weekends for this club.

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No one else is doing this thing
that I'm doing now objecting for

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the job that has nothing to do
with the contract.

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Why isn't everyone else doing it
here?

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It's just like, oh, get a grip.
Like you're an adult.

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I mean like have some
compassion, bit of empathy.

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You're you're a leader.
I swear.

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No more beeps.
Cold.

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We used up 1/4 of beeps last
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I can believe how many beeps.
Yeah.

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You're right, you're absolutely
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It, it's frustrating and it
just, it just does come down to

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that.
And I, I really want to make

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this clear to people because
some people listen and go, well,

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you want to go above and beyond,
etcetera.

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And that's so good for the
individual.

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But as a leader, it is your job
to put your staff team at the

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front and centre.
And this example, the thing that

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stood out to me was the sheer
amount of stuff that was planned

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for that week.
Now that is a choice.

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That is a choice to you know,
you've got your maybe your gym

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show that's annual that happens
at that point every year.

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Cool.
Don't put parents evening in the

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same.
Week, I know.

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There's three things that are
late every Don't do that to your

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staff team.
Just move it around.

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Just think.
Just have some forward thinking

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and in the front of your mind
when you're planning should not

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be well, I've sacrificed stuff,
so screw all these guys.

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It should be OK.
I'm willing to sacrifice this

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thing.
But you know what?

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My team maybe won't.
I'm going to take that decision,

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take it by the scruff of the
neck myself and do it for my

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star team so they're not even
put in that situation.

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And even if you have to have
those things back-to-back, it

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just turns out, I'm so sorry
guys, but we just, we just have

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to have these three things this
week.

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At least have some sympathy.
Like at the very, very, very

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least have some sympathy for the
for the staff that are then a

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bit annoyed the fact that
they've been here 1314 hours a

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day for the last three days in a
row.

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Instead of saying I've been to
an 11 Arif, when you say you've

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been to 10 Arif, yeah, yeah.
Always 1 and up and.

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Don't be that person.
Thanks so much for the story and

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Our messages are always open.
I will say very quickly though,

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one last thing on this one.
I left the school like a

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greyhound on the next transfer
window.

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Let's just celebrate the fact
that people by just saying that

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do you know what?
No, I, I'm not working in these

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conditions.
Goodbye.

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Because that is one of the only
ways you can actually make a

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school finally, maybe look in
and look at themselves and be

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like, oh, maybe we do need to
change something because we

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can't just control all these
people.

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They don't just suck it up and
do it anyway.

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They actually leave.
So maybe we've got to do

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something about it.
Definitely, definitely.

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And that that's when change
happens, isn't it?

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You're absolutely right.
Cool, Right, on to our first

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question then from our lovely
WhatsApp community.

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Do get involved guys.
It's a really nice group down in

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the link in the description to
this episode.

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Secondary school teacher here.
We get quite a lot of, you know,

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messages from secondary
teachers.

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I love it.
I really enjoy it.

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So if you're a secondary
teacher.

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Hello, my colleague is on long
term sick leave.

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SLT are requiring requiring me
to teach a combined year 11

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class, my class and the college
class in a school assembly hall.

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There are around 65 children in
there at once.

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When I asked about this I was
told it's non negotiable.

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I also requested that a member
of SLT would be in the hall to

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support with behaviour large
group size to which they refused

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and said we're too busy and to
get on with it because you're

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head of department.
Is this something I can raise

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further as I'm required to teach
multiple children at once?

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Obviously getting nowhere near
quality teaching in my normal

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classroom.
Mark extra books and set cover

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for my colleagues other lessons
as well.

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That's a tough one, isn't it?
Because I presume the the

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confidence of the SLT, so as you
get on with it means that surely

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they've checked and this is
within the rules.

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But it sounds absolutely mental.
We've talked about class sizes.

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You put posts out on Facebook
yesterday talking about how

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class sizes of over 30 are
already just.

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They're just mental.
I think so.

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And there's a reason private
schools have much smaller

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classes.
All this stuff, 65 and they're

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big kids.
Yeah.

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I don't want to teach one big
kid.

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That's scary.
Give me, give me a 10 year old.

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That is it.
That's my limit.

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Oh my God.
That's so interesting that as

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you get higher in age, you want
to teach the viewer of them

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because there'll be secondary
school teachers here going.

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Don't give me a group of
seven-year olds.

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I know.
It's so weird, I was sure.

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Maybe year elevens, maybe
they're nice, I don't know.

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I can't remember.
I'm pretty sure I was horrible

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at year 11 but.
Wait, you're horrible now?

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So pretty.
Sure, I was very annoying at

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that.
Age, I did actually look up the

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rules around this.
There's a limit in class size

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for very young children.
OK.

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So like, I think it's down in
Infant School essentially where

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you can't have more than that,
right?

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Because the adult ratio.
Exactly that.

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But even in upper primary
school, obviously all the way

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through to secondary, there is
no legal limit.

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So there's no legal number where
this person could say, oh, well,

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there's over 50 now.
This is unacceptable.

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I can't do it legally.
That doesn't exist.

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There is no cap there.
But can we just for a second

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appreciate and, and do you know
what?

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I think running a secondary
school must be incredibly

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difficult because there's so
many cogs and different

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departments going at the same
time and the sheer amount of

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children.
It's like it's a different

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cattle of fish to many primary
schools really.

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And running a primary school is
hard.

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So I can understand why,
especially when you go on long

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time sick leave, etcetera, and
you've got all these children

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who need input from teachers,
why that's tricky to sort.

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But there's two prongs to this
and we can go down whichever

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route you want.
I'll mention them both Now.

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My first frustration is that
when there's long term sick that

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a school isn't in a position
financially or doesn't want to

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just simply say, cool, we'll get
covering, end of the story.

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We've got a qualified cover
teacher, supply teacher to come

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in and take this class on.
Why is that not happening?

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That's really frustrating.
And the second thing is that if

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you're going to do this again as
SLT, you have to have empathy

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and understanding and be able to
say not just your head of

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department crack on.
What on earth difference does

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that make?
There are amazing teachers who

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are and aren't head of
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It shouldn't make a difference.
If anything, the head of

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department's got more work to do
and doesn't need this burden on

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top of it as well.
But the thing that frustrates me

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is like, you have to as SLT if
you're not going to go down that

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supply route like I just talked
about.

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The second prong here is you
have to have empathy and say and

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understand.
Understand that.

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OK, I get it.
Do what you can.

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I'm so sorry, Mark Less.
OK, I'll help you out with the

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cover.
Yeah, I'll do something to make

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your life easier because I've
just inherently made it harder.

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Yeah.
They're my 2 prongs the way you

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sit on.
This, I think it's the second

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one's really interesting to me
because I think it's really bad

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that there's clearly a burden
here, right?

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For whatever reason, we talk
about the first thing in a

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second.
For whatever reason, they come

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to the conclusion that this is
how it's going to have to go.

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We're going to combine both
classes.

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The idea of the people making
that decision, deciding who gets

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the entirety of that burden and
it's not them is mad to me.

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Like in terms of like it's so
selfish.

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Maybe there's other things
behind the scenes.

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I can appreciate that.
Perhaps that's it.

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But as SLT, as the leader of
that person, you should be the

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first person to be saying,
right, let's let's share this

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burden.
I'm really sorry.

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You are going to have to do this
like for XY and Z reason.

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Maybe it's budget, whatever, but
I'm going to help you.

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I'm going to step in.
We'll teach the class together.

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I'll be in there three times a
week and then we'll get someone

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else in the other times just to
make sure to help you manage

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behaviour.
Like you said, that's a good

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idea.
But the first thing is when it's

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long term sick, I'm like you
just got a source supply.

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Yeah, it's just.
Not except there is no reason.

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I'm like, oh, the budget.
OK, then you messed up your

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budget.
If you haven't accounted for the

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idea of people teachers being
sick ever, then what are you?

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What you doing you're talking
about?

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Of course, of course, well run
schools account for that in

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their budget, in their yearly
budget, like it's just meant.

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That's not an excuse.
It's like, OK cool, you've done

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your job poorly, then you can
take the burden.

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Why am I taking the burden?
Because you haven't run the

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school properly.
Yeah, no, it's frustrating.

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And like I said, even if you're
in that situation where your,

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your, your finances are in ruin,
you have to go back to the first

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thing you just said.
The answer here when asked, very

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reasonably asked, can you have
some support please for SLT to

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turn around and say no, we're
too busy, Sorry, what do you

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think?
I am sorry, what?

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Where do you think I am in my
busyness level just because I'm

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not, you know, in SLT or
leadership?

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I'm I'm a head of department in
a secondary school.

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I can guarantee you it's just as
busy as a leader, genuinely just

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as busy has so much on their
plate.

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It's not acceptable just to say
we're too busy.

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I'm too busy, but I'm doing it.
So what are we going to do?

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How are we going to come to a
common ground that that's what

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I'd be saying.
I'd be just doing what I can and

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not letting that burden eat me
up.

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Solely eat you up.
Yeah.

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What do we say to this person?
Like, other than that, what

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would you do in that situation?
What would you actually do?

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Would you?
Would you if they ultimately

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just put a brick wall up?
Yeah.

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Well, get on with it.
Yeah.

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What do you do?
I think, I think there comes a

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point where if you've got in
touch with your union, that's

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the first thing I'd do because
they'll be able to guide you on

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the legalities of it, on what
you should get, etcetera.

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There is no cap for class size.
No, there isn't.

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So I, I think the hands are
probably tied in that situation,

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but there might be other things
in terms of increased workload

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etcetera going past your
directed time, doing too much.

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There's probably, and this is
unfortunate because the answer

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becomes when you have a
nonresponsive leadership team

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who aren't taking your
well-being into account and

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overworking you past the
contract.

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It does get to a point, we've
said this before where you

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personally have to put your head
above the parapet.

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You have to be the person
actually then making a scene

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because the leadership have
decided to make a scene and say,

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oh, it's way too busy, it's on
you.

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That doesn't have to be the end
of it.

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You can also fight back and it's
not comfortable, it's not nice.

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It's not what people want to
hear.

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Sometimes they kind of want to
press the button and someone

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else saw it.
For them, you've got to say I'm

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not doing this.
Sorry, sorry, leadership, are

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you, are you going to help me
out or are you going to leave me

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here to do this all by myself?
Wow, we're too busy.

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It's just so weird because I can
feel myself getting sick as

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well.
Threaten them.

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Passive aggressive threats.
This is not this is not official

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advice from TCP podcast.
Do not do not cite us when you

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go off sick as well.
But but it's true.

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And you know what?
The stress might make you do

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that.
Yeah, genuinely, there's like

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that's a legitimate thing.
Obviously you can't actually pre

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emptively threaten it, but no,
of course not.

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There is a reality where having
teaching 65 kids is actually

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stressful after making you go
off as well.

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But there we go.
I don't know.

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It's it's frustrating.
Yeah, horrible.

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Sorry you're in that situation.
It really does suck.

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Yeah.
But get in touch with Reunion,

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get solid legal advice and then
work within that legal, legal

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framework.
Yeah, OK.

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Work within that framework
because you're you're entitled.

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To and then hand your noticing
and leave.

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Like Greyhound at the next.
Chance every every answer from

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now on is just going to be just
hand you notice and.

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Leave like a cheetah found their
pray in the world.

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Who needs to become as many
similes as one like Hayden when

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he sees a pack of whisper gold
at the end of the corridor?

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Anyway, next question, What's
the pettiest hill that you will

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die on in teaching?
For example, staples go

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vertical, not diagonal.
That is very, very painful.

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I feel like this is good because
we always kind of go against

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this kind of stuff, don't we
actually, you know, what is the

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actual thing where if you were
sat on this podcast and got

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written in, you'd be like, oh,
shut up, but you.

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Do, but I do it anyway.
I want you to answer this first.

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I feel like you'll have a good
one I.

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For me, it's so when I plan
lessons, OK, there's a thing I

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always do which is petty and I
kind of get annoyed when other

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people don't do it.
But I understand that it's

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completely pointless and I
cannot absolutely have a go at

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anyone for this.
But I do it.

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And it's getting rid of the
background on pictures that you

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put into smarts.
So making it a transparent

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background, you know, when you,
like, copy something in.

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Yeah.
And it's got like the white

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background that makes it into a
square, and then you've got a

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colour background and it just
looks so tacky and horrible.

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Yeah.
Right.

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Click, set transparent
background on that picture.

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Click the white.
Get rid of it.

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It makes it look so much better.
I understand that.

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That's absolutely nothing for
the land.

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Yeah, I understand everything
I've ever said.

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If this was a different person
writing in, I'd be like, get

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over it mate.
But that's my petty hill that

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I'm dying on.
Get rid of your backgrounds on

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your pictures.
Said it is transparent.

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It looks so much better.
Just do it.

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So funny.
I could just imagine you raging

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it like some history planning on
someone else's poured their

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heart into and you're like, oh,
could they just get rid of the

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background of this picture?
There's a black or white

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background.
We need to make level chamber

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than pop.
We need to make it popping

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popping now in this background.
Oh God that's so funny.

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You would never write a policy
on this.

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That's The thing is, yeah, I'd
never enforce a policy on this,

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but it really.
Pisses, it's petty, it literally

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doesn't matter, but I found
myself getting annoyed inside

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Yeah when I get a smart full of
it.

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But this is where I'm showing
planning.

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This person is planned the whole
history in it and I'm like why

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is there a background?
I feel like you've sparked the

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whole thing about I reckon we
can go back and forth now with

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planning because there's going
to be a few things I think we're

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planning.
We're quite particular, we are.

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Very particular, even though we
will absolutely down the hill of

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this doesn't matter and no one
should be forced to do this.

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When I'm planning though, I will
do these things and font is

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another one.
There's lots of things with font

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and then I know you're thinking
about it, but font in general,

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I'm going to start with the font
itself, right?

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I tell you what, actually, this
is petty.

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However, it's I don't know.
It's going to be two things.

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I'll see you think.
Firstly, Comic Sans is fine.

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Oh.
Comic sans is fine.

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Just use it honestly it's fine.
Everyone hate.

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Why everyone hate comic sans?
It's it's a it's a lesson to a 5

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year old right?
Comic Sans is good.

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Yeah, it's not, it's not a
marketing campaign.

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No, I'm never gonna.
I've never used it in any of our

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marketing for our, for our
choosing company, for our match

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company we're building.
I'm not using Comic Sans, but

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when I'm teaching a bunch of
five year olds, 11 year olds,

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whatever it is, comic sound is
fine.

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It's nice and easy to read.
It looks all right.

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Yeah, okay, that's fine.
It's better than join hand.

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Right, go on then.
Yeah, Better than join hand,

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right?
Yeah, exactly.

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Oh my God, yes.
I mean, I was gonna mention

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fonts that are terrible.
That is definitely #1 cursive.

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If you're using cursive font on
your PowerPoint or you're smart,

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I'm sorry, but I'm been in the
lesson.

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I'm not even out of out of
respect to font.

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I'm not even teaching the
content you, but it's just

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disgraceful.
Out of respect to font.

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I'm not doing it.
And other fonts like you get the

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net, the like default ones often
like Times in Roman and stuff

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like Candara, stuff like that.
I'm like an Ariel's not too bad.

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It's in the middle.
That's in the middle I can get.

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I can't really get on.
I do, I do Ariel's all right.

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It's very vanilla.
Whereas Times in Roman, I'm

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like, come on, it's not the 90s.
No, it's not.

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We like what are we?
We had a colleague, didn't we,

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at our old school, who on all
their documents would write with

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Times New Roman and just because
that's what they're used to from

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the university.
And I always used to joke with

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her and say I knew it was your
document.

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Yeah, you're the only one I
know.

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You've been writing Times New
Roman.

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Another thing, back to your
picture thing, right?

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I just thought something else
because I can see old colleagues

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that have done this who I'm sure
would laugh if they heard this,

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when hope, when they have, when
they've resized an image, but

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they've accidentally, they've
not held shift, so they've made

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it bigger, but they've also
allowed it to get that too far

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where it's that way it stretches
them.

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Do you know what I mean?
And it's no longer in the ratio

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that it was originally.
And it's like, what are you

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doing?
Yeah, if you're enlarging or

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decreasing an image size, make
sure it stays in.

453
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,680
Proportion and it starts getting
pixelated, doesn't it when it's

454
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,040
stretched?
Oh my God, why is stomach the

455
00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,400
vast so wide?
It's not that wide.

456
00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,680
Oh, God, yeah.
So there's just so many little

457
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,360
petty things.
I think it does all, I think

458
00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,880
even hit the nail on the head
with lesson planning.

459
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,560
That is where the pettiness is.
Formatting a Lesson plan.

460
00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,880
Yeah, I like my lesson smarts to
have a level of a look to them.

461
00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,120
Yeah, I will be very honest.
As I got on in my career, my bar

462
00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:18,680
lowered and lowered and lowered.
But I will absolutely never

463
00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:21,600
allow for an image to not have
the background transparently.

464
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,720
Not never.
What's the hell I will die on?

465
00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,200
A whole PowerPoint slide of text
and it's all the same size, all

466
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,400
the same font, all from the left
and the entire slide.

467
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,440
Get rid of it.
Get rid of it.

468
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,280
I'm not showing that to kids.
I can't put, I can't put on my

469
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,320
screen a whole slide to a bunch
of 7-8 year olds.

470
00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,440
No, there's just text.
I'm just going to read it.

471
00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,800
Boring.
It's not happening.

472
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,200
Boring.
So boring.

473
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,040
I can't think of anything more.
I'm getting annoyed thinking

474
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,800
about this now.
And actually, I think personally

475
00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,520
that is something that I might
put into a policy like that.

476
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,360
That's like, it's not even a
petty hill that I'm dying on.

477
00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,760
It's bad.
Don't put 5000 words on a slide

478
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,840
for a kid.
Don't do, don't do that.

479
00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,000
Because what you know what
happens?

480
00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,960
A teacher just looks at and
goes.

481
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,760
And the next thing was that
after the Anglo Saxons were in

482
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,960
Britain, they decided to settle.
And then if you look at the

483
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,160
background of the Romans
beforehand, it looks like they

484
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,280
went back in time.
Isn't that interesting?

485
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,480
Let's go to the next slide.
Shush, shush.

486
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,960
I'm, I'm, I'm delivering a well
planned lesson.

487
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,520
I'm gonna go to the next slide
now and you will see two

488
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,040
pictures.
Which one do you think was

489
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,840
earlier than the other?
Yes, what do you want?

490
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,160
Please can we leave?
This is this is a good lesson,

491
00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:28,800
OK.
Because the next slide, the

492
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,600
pictures, I've got rid of the
background.

493
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,320
It's transparent.
Yeah.

494
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,680
So it's all fine.
Don't worry about that.

495
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,040
Kitties 0.
God.

496
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,600
So yeah, there you go.
It turns out there are some

497
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:37,760
things that we're very petty
about.

498
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,280
Petty things indeed.
OK, next question.

499
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,440
I loved this one.
You recently did a whole episode

500
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,600
on primary maths which I found
extremely interesting.

501
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,640
I'm a math lead in my school and
I find that fluency is something

502
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,440
we don't quite get right all of
the time.

503
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,680
What's the difference between
fluency and arithmetic?

504
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,680
Is your platform going to be
doing both or just one?

505
00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,640
We might need to use it in our
school.

506
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,440
Doesn't that last bit get you
excited when you hear like

507
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,840
someone may be using your thing?
I love how many people have been

508
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,360
writing in about this.
I know we've mentioned it a

509
00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:08,200
couple of times obviously in the
podcast, just kind of in

510
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,560
passing.
And yeah, we've just had

511
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,640
constant messages of
particularly from Mass Leeds

512
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,640
being like, oh, this is
interesting.

513
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,560
What I'm really enjoying is
people saying, and it sounds

514
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,880
really bad when I say this, I'm
enjoying people saying fluency

515
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,080
is really bad in our school.
So we need, I definitely agree,

516
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,480
like this is something we need
to work on.

517
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,760
Yeah, yeah, really cool.
Go on then, Dylan.

518
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,600
So what is the difference
between fluency and arithmetic?

519
00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:30,600
Is our platform doing both?
OK, so, so initially when we

520
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,720
built this platform, we we were
thinking about the foundations

521
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,840
of maths, right?
Literally children being able to

522
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,880
do maths.
And again, just very QikLink to

523
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,720
the curriculum review that came
out recently, it mentioned how

524
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,000
those foundations need to be
really solid, especially in the

525
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,760
younger years.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, it's

526
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,840
like we wrote this.
It's so important in terms of

527
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,920
fluency and arithmetic.
Arithmetic is to me a huge part

528
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,120
of fluency, so it's under the
fluency umbrella.

529
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,080
So the platform we're building,
we're going to be looking at

530
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,520
initially focusing on fluency,
understanding number,

531
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,160
manipulating number, knowing
what things mean and knowing how

532
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,520
to actually do maths.
But obviously we had to start

533
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,240
somewhere.
So a big thing for us was

534
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,880
arithmetic and we found that
across schools, from people

535
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,400
we've seen and talked to and
schools we've been involved

536
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,640
with, arithmetic is quite
inconsistent, let's say.

537
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,600
And there, you know, a lot of
schools trying to get it right

538
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,400
and there wasn't really much out
there that makes teachers lives

539
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,200
easier.
So a big thing for us in terms

540
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,360
of arithmetic, you have to be
able to do maths, you have to be

541
00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,720
able to add 2 numbers together,
subtract 2 numbers, multiply,

542
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,960
divide times by 10, divide by
1000, go into decimals, find a

543
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,640
fraction of an amount, the
literal building blocks of

544
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,000
maths, you have to be able to do
it and that comes in arithmetic.

545
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,560
OK, Separate to that are things
like naming shape, right,

546
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,240
converting measure, maybe even
might come in into it knowing

547
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,120
like known facts, there are 100
centimetres in a metre.

548
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,280
That's all part of fluency.
It's something we'll build into

549
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,920
it, but we really focus on
arithmetic and what we want to

550
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,600
be able to do is schools come
along and we say, guys, we've

551
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,440
solved arithmetic for you.
We've got cumulative tests that

552
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,800
build up across the year that
you can do once a week with your

553
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,920
class.
You get instant feedback on the

554
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,280
gaps.
You get a teacher dashboard

555
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,400
where you can see what your
children can and can't do.

556
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,880
Each individual child has an
algorithm for them which learns

557
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,600
what they can and can't do, and
they can go off into free play

558
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,120
and practise things they need to
practise or go over stuff

559
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,400
they've done before.
It's constant recapping,

560
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,720
constant doing maths and only
things they've actually covered

561
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,560
with you as the teacher.
And it's just the ability to be

562
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,080
able to streamline, making
tests, making worksheets, making

563
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,960
things for children to actually
have a go at.

564
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,600
And it's constantly learning
what they can and can't do.

565
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,800
It's quality, consistent.
Do it everyday for 10 minutes,

566
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,280
have a bit of fluency, just
build it into your timetable and

567
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,640
get children better at maths.
And oh, this platform, I'm so

568
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,600
excited because we're going to
help so many children get better

569
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,560
and do you know what they can do
alongside this?

570
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,800
Our platform will take care of
the fluency and arithmetic

571
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,200
because then it allows the
children to reason and problem

572
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,320
solve the literal point of
maths.

573
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,120
The reason we do maths to solve
problems, to do tricky things,

574
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,680
we can unlock that if on our
platform, Mathsu, you can get

575
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,360
really, really good at just
doing the maths.

576
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:15,360
Then you can come in as the
teacher, inspire them, get them

577
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,440
doing some hands on learning,
get them reasoning, get them

578
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,840
problem solving because they've
got that solid foundation.

579
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,920
I always think about the amount
of gap analysis I do.

580
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,680
I think there's loads of levels,
right?

581
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,400
I do as a year 6 teacher, we'd
be doing our mock Sats and

582
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,320
things across the year and I'd
be doing a big old gap analysis

583
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,760
of that arithmetic and then
using that to inform basically

584
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,280
the arithmetic I teach in my
starters or the, or whether it's

585
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,760
weaved into my main lesson
objectives throughout basically

586
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,440
the next term.
I do my little intervention

587
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,760
groups, all based on these gap
analysis that take absolutely

588
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,160
forever.
By the way, imagine that, except

589
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,760
you've got it on tap all the
time.

590
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,840
The gap analysis is done for
you.

591
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,960
You don't have to do it every
single time they use the app.

592
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,800
It's not only doing a gap
analysis for you.

593
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,040
Our app itself is also learning
where the child is AT and then

594
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,400
tailoring what they get in free
play.

595
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Like to me, I'm just like, I
can't believe that this isn't

596
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,440
here already and I'm annoyed
that I didn't have this for my

597
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,560
entire career, which is why we
built it.

598
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,720
I mean, this is how things
start, isn't it?

599
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,960
You have experience in the
career, you go, oh, this is

600
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,360
missing and then you build it,
right.

601
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,280
That's that is what people
generally do but yeah, I, I just

602
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,440
to be really clear about road
map as well.

603
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,600
That's where we're starting And
like Dylan said, fluency is a

604
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,640
wider term.
And once we've built and nailed

605
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,360
the arithmetic, we're going to
move straight onto other things

606
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,840
like mental arithmetic, a
separate part of the platform

607
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,600
where it's like, yeah, these are
things you should be learning

608
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,080
and able to do in your head.
The wider fluency stuff, like

609
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,760
you said, perimeter and knowing
how to do perimeter is still

610
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,640
fluency, right?
You can apply it into a problem

611
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,160
solving, you know, situation.
But being able to practise that

612
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,760
and terminology, just knowing
that the names of things, this

613
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760
is all stuff we're going to
build in and it's part of our

614
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,120
road map.
But the start is arithmetic

615
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:38,920
because it's the biggest thing.
It's the foundations, It's being

616
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,840
able to sit there and manipulate
a number and actually do it

617
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,480
properly.
So that's where we're going to

618
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,560
start.
Yeah.

619
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,280
Thanks for writing in, though.
As you can see, we get very

620
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,640
passionate about this.
With with fluency in general,

621
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,200
Whilst we're on this quickly,
what do you think is the best

622
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,800
way to to almost teach this?
Because I'm very ardent that I

623
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,360
think there should be separate
given time for the foundational

624
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:01,200
fundamental parts of maths,
whether that's arithmetic or

625
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,840
recapping fluency or just
getting ideas in all the time.

626
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,360
I think that's something you
should do often, not necessarily

627
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:08,960
for an hour.
You don't do an hour of rote

628
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,120
learning, that's ridiculous.
You don't do column edition for

629
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:14,560
an hour straight, that's crazy.
But 10 minutes a day is targeted

630
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,000
practise of arithmetic of what
you can and can't do, or what

631
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,640
you want to recap, or what you
want to practise with the

632
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720
teacher.
Or make a group on our platform

633
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,560
and then send them off with a
teaching assistant and they can

634
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,400
work through that.
Do you think there's something

635
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,640
to be said or actually do you
know what?

636
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,040
Just build in timetable time to
become fluent.

637
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,400
That's maybe even separate to
your main lesson. 100%, I think

638
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,160
I, I know, I would say daily.
I actually think it's essential.

639
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,480
I think the this, what this
curriculum review has done

640
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,000
nicely is remind us how
important fluency is.

641
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,960
I feel like it's slowly slipped
away and it was like reasoning,

642
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,720
problem solving is so important.
It's the only thing you think

643
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,920
about anymore.
It is really important, but you

644
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,920
literally can't do it unless
you're building on quality

645
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,760
foundations.
I've been thinking about exactly

646
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,120
that because it's the line I say
all the time.

647
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,120
You need to be fluent to reason
and problem solve and in general

648
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:58,080
it's true.
But I do think, you know, what

649
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,400
our platform's not going to do
is, you know, replace the

650
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,800
teacher.
The point is it unlocks it for

651
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,120
the teacher.
So I actually, I think you can

652
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,160
reason at any point whilst
you're becoming fluent, when you

653
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,160
are fluent, when you're problem
solving.

654
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,360
I think reasoning comes at all
points because you can, even if

655
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:17,600
you're getting stuff wrong, you
can reason as to why maybe what

656
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,400
happened, etcetera.
So, so I think reasoning

657
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,160
happened at any point and should
happen at all points.

658
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,760
I don't think it's like, here's
our platform, don't reason and

659
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,840
problem solve until after, you
know, at all points.

660
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,120
As a teacher, you know what to
do in terms of reasoning and

661
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,280
even problem solving to a
degree.

662
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,000
You have to be really specific.
You know, you can't solve

663
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000
problems that require you to do
the maths.

664
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,280
You're not fluent in that.
That's what I would say because

665
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,120
I think there are some problems
out there, you know, trial and

666
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:43,000
improvement, you know, you might
or, or more more common in terms

667
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,480
of what I'm trying to get to
here is like triangle

668
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,440
possibilities.
You don't need to be fluent in

669
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,960
this in a, in a, you know,
column edition to be able to try

670
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,880
possibilities.
You know, you've got ice cream

671
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,360
flavours of strawberry, mint,
vanilla.

672
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,480
How many different combinations
of two can you make?

673
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,600
You don't, you don't have to be
fluent in anything really just

674
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,240
other than a problem solving
technique of trying all of the

675
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,160
different ways of doing it and
seeing if you can get an

676
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,600
exhaustive list.
So again, I do think problem

677
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,320
solving and reasoning can happen
all of the time.

678
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,360
It's really important to do
that.

679
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,960
And I think there are you nods
to that as well.

680
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,080
It says that's what maths should
be, but we cannot get away from

681
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,800
the fact that fundamentally you
have to be able to do the maths.

682
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,720
And there's nothing I think
below that in terms of

683
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,200
foundation wise.
So if our platform can make

684
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,320
these foundations so solid, the
quality teachers can come in.

685
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,040
And my metaphor, they're quality
builders.

686
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,640
They come in and they plan what
they're going to build on top of

687
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,000
these foundations.
They make sure it's an amazing

688
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,440
house that's bespoke to each
child.

689
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,400
Our platform helps you to do
that and I I can't wait to roll

690
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,800
it out.
Yeah, particularly when the

691
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,000
workload is reduced when it
comes to the arithmetic side of

692
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
things anyway, like from
everything I said about gap

693
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,480
analysis and the free pay doing
its thing.

694
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,560
Yeah, I'm.
I'm Can you imagine if we

695
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,480
created a platform that
increases workload after

696
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,920
everything we've been saying?
No, it's at the forefront of our

697
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,920
mind.
Yeah, reduce that workload.

698
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,320
Right.
Come on, Dan, let's move on to

699
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,960
another question, so I'm going
to read one this time.

700
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,400
If you were stuck on a desert
island, what three things would

701
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,640
you take?
Can't take family in brackets.

702
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,760
Well, they hadn't come straight
to mine.

703
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Won't get them anyway.
They weren't even in my top

704
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,480
three.
Rory sat there, knife on the

705
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,320
list.
Why would I?

706
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,960
Why would I take him to a desert
island?

707
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,760
Stay home.
And your mum.

708
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,120
Yeah, stay at home.
I'm taking your mum.

709
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,160
Good luck.
Good luck son.

710
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,480
You'll be all right mate.
What?

711
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,240
Three things would you take.
OK, currently my Kindle.

712
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,360
I'm glued to my kindle
currently.

713
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,480
I am absolutely loving it.
I'm getting into reading.

714
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,320
I'm trying to relax at night
time I think in the wilderness

715
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,160
with all their wild animals
after me.

716
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,520
I think just that downtime in
the evening.

717
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,000
Yeah, nice.
That'd be good for three days.

718
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,200
What's next?
What's next, Einstein?

719
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,360
Good thought.
Sorry, Mr doesn't read.

720
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640
I've been reading all about my
history and my nonfiction.

721
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,640
I've started reading
Frankenstein by Shelly.

722
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,600
They all.
Feel right now isn't.

723
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,560
It, yeah.
I don't know why it's like in my

724
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,440
subconscious to read it.
I've seen a lot of it.

725
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,200
Maybe there's a new like show?
Yeah, there's a bunch of films

726
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,320
and stuff as well right now.
Yeah, I'm.

727
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,880
Hooked.
I'm actually hooked.

728
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,800
Yeah, I've found.
What's gonna happen?

729
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:08,080
Yeah, I can't wait to find out
what happens next.

730
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,080
There was one part at the start
where they're writing letters to

731
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,240
each other and this person is
writing a letter to home to a

732
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,520
family and he's on a ship and he
notices like a sled go by and he

733
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,080
writes it and he's like, it
looks like some kind of large

734
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,040
humanoid figure in the sled.
I was like, well, I know that

735
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,840
is, spoiler alert, that's
Frankenstein's monster, the

736
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,960
book.
Spoiling the book for me.

737
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,120
So I take my Kindle.
Yeah, Kindle.

738
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,760
What else would I take?
I would probably take.

739
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,960
It's hard when there's like no
electronics, isn't there?

740
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,440
Yeah, I suppose.
I take my Uno deck and play

741
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600
against myself.
I'd like deal two hands out.

742
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,520
I'd stand up and go to the other
side.

743
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,200
Other side and I play.
Uno, you already thought this

744
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,240
review.
New.

745
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,880
And the last thing I take is
certainly my chess board to do

746
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,720
the same thing when I'm when I'm
bored of Uno, you can play when

747
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,800
I'm bored of playing myself at
Uno, I'm doing the old +4 when I

748
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,640
knew it was going to happen, but
just, you know, saving that to

749
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,080
the end.
I'll go to my chess board when

750
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,440
I'm bored, bored, bored, bored,
bored.

751
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,240
I'll go back to reading
Frankenstein where I wouldn't

752
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,160
know the ending.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

753
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,480
What about you?
You would be rabbit.

754
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,960
You'd be bored in no time.
I think I'd be the opposite of

755
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,320
bored Hayden.
I've I've put all three of my

756
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,600
things.
Into entertainment.

757
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,560
To be fair, if you're going on
rankings on the island, you

758
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,000
would be #1 grandmaster at.
Chess.

759
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,920
There you go.
Exactly that.

760
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,720
Number one.
Uno you.

761
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,200
Can give yourself that title.
Best and the first person on the

762
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,400
island to re practise time.
Wow, you really didn't think

763
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,760
it's you didn't think of the
parameters?

764
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,880
I take my house.
My my house would be number.

765
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,160
One, does that count as one
thing?

766
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,120
Does it?
I think so.

767
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,080
I don't see, sorry, I don't see
anything back saying can't take

768
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,040
your house, can't take your
family.

769
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,720
I can take what they live in.
Stuck in this island, I'll take

770
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,880
society, I'll take community,
and I'll take warmth.

771
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Oh God, what do you actually
take?

772
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,960
Because what is sad about this
is it makes you realise how we

773
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,720
absolutely just revolve around
electronics.

774
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,680
Now, Is that sad?
I don't know.

775
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,120
It's not sad necessarily, but
I'm like.

776
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,720
Oh, back in back in the old
days, didn't have electronic.

777
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Yeah, I don't want to lift them.
Yeah.

778
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,120
It's true.
Worse, if you wanted to hurt

779
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,720
someone 200 years ago, they'd be
like, oh great, yeah, I'll take

780
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,080
three.
I don't know what, what would

781
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,680
they take?
What would they take?

782
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,400
Their moustache, they're like on
my camera, my.

783
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:17,600
Comb I've got to look my daily.
Telegraph yeah, so read for the

784
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,160
next.
Word.

785
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,320
I don't know.
You'd have to it have to be a

786
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,120
book, wouldn't it?
Kindle ultimately would run out

787
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,320
at the end of the day.
They have a very long battery

788
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,600
life I have.
Like we're start every year.

789
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,240
I'm hoping I get saved after a
short amount of time.

790
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,040
Is this forever?
Maybe a Rubik's Cube, because

791
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,880
that is, look, I'm sorry.
Have a go at me for my ones

792
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,360
you're and then turn around and
then turn around and say book,

793
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,360
which is a Kindle, but fewer of
them.

794
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,840
Yeah, it lasts forever.
Rubik's Cube, which isn't even a

795
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,200
game.
One player, though.

796
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Yeah, but I can play against
myself.

797
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,120
Yeah, I can play one player.
I've never heard of Rubik's Cube

798
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,960
be described as A1 player game.
It is A1 player game.

799
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,200
It's not game it is.
I'm also taking a tent.

800
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,880
I feel like we need to.
Yes, probably the most sensible

801
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,920
thing we probably.
Do need some sort of shelter?

802
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,640
Because I tell you what, I'm not
the kind of guy who's going to

803
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,240
be mate.
I'm, I'm not the person on

804
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,640
YouTube who's going out into the
wilderness.

805
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,880
Outdoor boys.
Yeah, just making, making

806
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120
things.
Can I just say I have also been

807
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,640
watching that recently.
I I saw for the first time it

808
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,320
was a video of him saying I'm
stopping doing videos and I was

809
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,880
like oh that's hilarious.
Oh dude.

810
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
It's time to TuneIn.
Yeah, like millions and millions

811
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,320
of a.
Lot of users oh.

812
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,880
It was, but I think always come
back.

813
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,320
I've watched a few, yeah.
Unreal.

814
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,400
Which one is it?
Is this the one where they what

815
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,760
what you describe it?
No, he, he's like.

816
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,600
A middle-aged bloke in America
who sometimes with his children

817
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,160
goes out like to a remote
island, camps for three days,

818
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,920
fishes with them, just lives off
the land.

819
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,680
And he goes into more extreme
ones on his own.

820
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,880
So he'll like go up into like
the North Alaska into like the,

821
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,880
the icy sheets and the snow,
build a build a like just a

822
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,600
place for him to sleep under the
snow that stays warm.

823
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,280
It's like -20 it's insane.
So it's so good, I think.

824
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,080
You are the absolute epitome of
the opposite of that.

825
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,920
I think you would.
I think you would be dead so

826
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,720
quick on a desert island
honestly.

827
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,400
I actually think like it would
be quicker than like what is

828
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,920
normal.
Just if I did nothing, I'd

829
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,360
survive, because in me trying to
survive, I'd run into a bear

830
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,800
trap.
Literally like, yeah, just.

831
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,160
Yeah, I am useless with anything
like that.

832
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,760
That's that's why you asked me
what things would I take to

833
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840
desert island and I said a chess
board.

834
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,560
I come on, come on, what the
hell?

835
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,600
Log in last.
Doing the doing the Knights

836
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,400
move, Doing the Queen's Gambit
whilst there's a bear over my

837
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,880
shoulder?
This guy's not.

838
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:38,680
Do you want to play?
You are the only person right?

839
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,280
Because I am also useless at
this kind of time, the only

840
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,960
person that makes me feel bad.
I'd be serving the Grizzly

841
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,960
Bearer plus four.
I got you there.

842
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,400
What I my head off?
Oh God, what a question.

843
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Turns out we have no idea, No
idea how to survive.

844
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,800
Doesn't matter, wouldn't last a
day.

845
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,000
Dylan's chucking a Kindle round
as a frisbee after day three

846
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,120
because it's useless.
It's out that tree.

847
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,400
Oh, thank you so much for that
question.

848
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,280
Next one.
Right, one more, Dylan.

849
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,280
But before that, if you're
enjoying this podcast, please,

850
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,280
please, please do leave us a
review.

851
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,120
It massively boosts our numbers
and helps us and we hugely

852
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:14,719
appreciate it.
Don't.

853
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,199
Say please if you're rude and to
a point they just do it.

854
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:18,400
Leave a review.
That's it.

855
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,280
He's the he's the pro teacher
there.

856
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,800
If you're not watching then
you're missing out.

857
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:29,159
What does the PowerPoint on
teacher well-being look like in

858
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:35,560
the 9th circle of hell?
Oh teacher well-being, we have

859
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,679
taught so much about it before
we go into the memes and the

860
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,800
jokes we will naturally.
I've got to say I've seen it

861
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,719
done really well and it's our
old mate Charlie Birdie,

862
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,760
teachers health coach.
Legend.

863
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,679
Legend, the nicest guy you'd
ever talked to.

864
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,719
There's a lot of going into
schools and talking to them.

865
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,239
And he's the first person on our
post where we have a laugh about

866
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,400
well-being and forced
well-being.

867
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,320
We have good classes, breathing
exercises.

868
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,320
He's the first person
commenting, laughing.

869
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,440
And he says himself, it can
sound like an oxymoron to have a

870
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,400
staff meeting about well-being
when really you just want to go

871
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,920
Marty books and go home.
Yeah, but I've seen some of the

872
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,000
content that he gave some trains
and like his his teachers when

873
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,200
there's schools that he's
working with and it is really

874
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,600
good.
So this can be done.

875
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,360
Well, let me just put out there
right now, but in the night, the

876
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,560
circle of hell, we don't have
Charlie Burnley coming in.

877
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,960
No.
What does it look like?

878
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,280
It's got to be passive
aggressive things, isn't.

879
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,720
It's got to be where SLT are
putting in token things that

880
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,400
they're like, yeah, this is
rewarming, but it isn't.

881
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Remotely gone.
And so you walk in, you walk

882
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,080
into the star meeting.
I'm imagining straight away

883
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,520
there's some tranquil music on
in the background, the kind of

884
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,160
stuff you might put on when your
kids are doing some writing.

885
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Just need to be quiet for a
minute.

886
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,360
I'm like, I'm a 32 year old
professional man OK, fine.

887
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,960
Some tranquil music coming on.
You sit down and and you've just

888
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,200
got in front of you like a
stress ball.

889
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,720
And it's like, I'm not going to
tell you what to do with the

890
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:51,160
stress ball, but do whatever you
think you need to do with the

891
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,280
stress.
Ball, can I leave with it?

892
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,680
Can I pick it up and go?
Because that would help my

893
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,720
well-being more, actually.
Do whatever you can within the

894
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,840
confines of I want to be in your
chair now you've got to stay in

895
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,840
your chair.
Sorry, I I vividly remember.

896
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,280
I vividly remember these things.
And they're good.

897
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,320
They're good.
They have their place, at least.

898
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Don't think I'm saying they're
awful.

899
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,760
Yeah, I just didn't want to do.
It if you pick it up and choose

900
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,960
it at home yourself.
Yeah, I know.

901
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,400
It's when, like, you used to sit
there and, you know, they were

902
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,360
like, trace your finger along
your thumb and breathe in as you

903
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,600
go up and out, as you go down
and go to your next finger in as

904
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,520
you go up, out as you go down.
And I'm sat there going.

905
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,480
I've got 97 books to mark.
Yeah.

906
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,760
OK, in and out.
And I'm.

907
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,800
I, I know how this can regulate
you.

908
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,640
I get it.
But this is actually making my

909
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,480
blood boil.
It's too the opposite of

910
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,000
regulating me right now.
I don't want to do it.

911
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,160
So yeah, definitely some kind of
breathing exercise going up and

912
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,680
down your fingers, maybe then
like a breathing exercise where

913
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,120
you just sit in your chair,
close your eyes, imagine you're

914
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,280
a Raisin, pick up your Raisin,
put your mouth, Imagine you can

915
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,640
feed it at the top.
Yeah.

916
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,640
It's all like, rooted in good
stuff.

917
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,200
Like, I think meditation is
amazing.

918
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,400
Like, I used to meditate a lot.
I should do it again because it

919
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,760
just grounds you and it just, it
just relaxes you.

920
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,040
It's not like, oh, I'm with one
with the soul of nature.

921
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,160
It's not about that.
It's just about grounding your

922
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,960
body and getting you into a
state of relaxation.

923
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,080
It's good.
Just don't want to do it.

924
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,800
Because, well-being to me, for
teachers, it is quite a simple

925
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,800
formula, isn't isn't it really?
It's so it's so rooted in

926
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,080
workload.
It's basically just if you want

927
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,360
to actually improve someone's
well-being, it's just whatever

928
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,160
The thing is you're doing and
put in place, it just needs to

929
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,960
reduce their workload.
That's how their well-being can

930
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,920
get better.
So when something comes in like

931
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,360
the classic, like the yoga
class, like anything, anything

932
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,360
where it's been scheduled in
your timetable, regardless of

933
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,760
how nice that thing is, it's
like, this isn't reducing my

934
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,960
workload.
It's just not, this isn't the

935
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,640
well-being policy that I'd hoped
for. well-being to me, I want

936
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,080
to, I want a day off.
Give me a Christmas shopping day

937
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,360
off.
That would help my well-being.

938
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,920
We're going to have to come in
on Saturday morning because

939
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,320
we're doing a Christmas
well-being meditation.

940
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,240
Workshop.
We're going to make a wreath.

941
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,400
Good, that's great, but I don't
want to do.

942
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,280
It my favourite ones are the
really passive ones where it's

943
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,760
like you're barely even
disguising this now of like

944
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,840
they've right.
So sort of thought, so we're

945
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,800
going to do a new policy for
something that does actually

946
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,160
increase workload.
We need to mask it somehow so

947
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,400
people don't think it is and
everyone can see through it.

948
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,080
So we're going to like tag on
something nice to it as well.

949
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,840
So it's, you know, right.
The kids are going to come in 10

950
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,920
minutes earlier now than they
ever have done before.

951
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,040
They're not going to play
anymore.

952
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,000
What what we want you to do.
We don't because we don't

953
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,720
increase your workload.
We don't give you any more any

954
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:25,800
planning to do.
They're going to come in,

955
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,440
They're just going to sit in the
classroom and they're going to

956
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,040
do a 10 minute meditation
PowerPoint that we've prepared

957
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,640
and we're going to give to you.
And all we have to do is be

958
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,520
there and do it and it's going
to be good for your well-being

959
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,320
because we haven't asked you to
do anything extra.

960
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,240
Some other schools down the road
get their kids in at this time

961
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,440
and they have to do early
morning maths and we just want

962
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,880
to do some meditation with the
children.

963
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,320
Think it's good.
Previously they were just

964
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,600
outside playing and you had 10
more minutes extra just to prep

965
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560
stuff like that.
I'm always like, oh, it's so

966
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,080
hard to fight back against
because it sounds nice, but

967
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,640
ultimately I just have to be in
the room now for 10 more minutes

968
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,520
and I have 10 minutes less to
myself to prep.

969
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,280
Yeah.
So it's not, it's not good.

970
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,280
Don't you find it?
I find it so funny in them

971
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,640
situations where you know it'll
be justified of an increase but

972
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,040
it's just 10 minutes, it's just
10 minutes and then every kids 2

973
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,320
minutes late a day, they get a
let at home. 2 minutes a day

974
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,080
adds up to $7000 a year and
they're going to not have a job

975
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,720
when they're older and they're
going to have work and more or

976
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:13,680
less they're going to have
��10,000 or less a year.

977
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,640
That's really interesting isn't
it?

978
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,520
How your in it of understanding
how important small amounts of

979
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,520
time are is is very very
different when it comes to

980
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,880
eating more work out of your
staff than it is to your

981
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,200
children being in the.
Classroom.

982
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,040
That's very strange, isn't it
exactly frustrating.

983
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,440
Can you think of any more like
passive ones that we've had in

984
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,600
the past?
Like passive aggressive things

985
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,120
where it's like, this is clearly
not actually my well-being, it's

986
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,960
just disguising something else.
I've heard before someone

987
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,560
messaged us saying they said
we've got to put the Christmas

988
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,080
decorations up, right.
So you're coming up to that time

989
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,960
now where you might put the
Christmas decorations up in your

990
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,040
school.
And it's bloody lovely.

991
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,480
I love it when the school's all
done up and, and someone's got

992
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,040
to do it.
So, yeah, do you know what?

993
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,880
It's the kind of thing in the
past where I've been like, of

994
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,000
course I will just spend 20
minutes doing this.

995
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,400
It's a nice thing.
But it's voluntary, right?

996
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680
It's voluntary.
And then this guy, a message I

997
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,440
said, said in our school, we're
being forced to do this.

998
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,360
Like, is this, is this OK?
They'll say that.

999
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,520
They'll bring some chocolates.
Yeah, and I'm like, that.

1000
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,920
That is nice, right?
It's nice.

1001
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,760
It's lovely.
It's fantastic.

1002
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,280
But it doesn't mean like just
ignore the part where I've said

1003
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,640
this is no longer optional,
though You've got to come and

1004
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,320
put a Christmas decorations for
an hour and a half after school.

1005
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,800
But I've got a box of heroes and
it's like that.

1006
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,880
That's the kind of thing where
I'm like, oh, I'm going to look

1007
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,680
like such a twat if I say what?
No, that box here isn't doing

1008
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,520
anything because it's nice, but
but, you know, it's just

1009
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,480
papering over.
You've just added an hour and a

1010
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,200
half to my day and I've still
got to get everything done.

1011
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Yeah.
You have just skirted around the

1012
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,560
fact that what you really are
saying is everyone needs to come

1013
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,000
and do this thing for an hour
and a half after school.

1014
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:48,920
Yeah.
And I'll give you some

1015
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,560
chocolates as well.
Yeah, That's really what you're

1016
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,440
saying.
You're just, you're just

1017
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,040
rewording it so it looks nice
and then the person feels bad.

1018
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,840
That's not good for well-being.
Yeah, definitely.

1019
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,480
I remember like something
actually cool in terms of it

1020
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,360
probably was like a well-being
initiative didn't have to do it.

1021
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,480
It was just nice was I worked in
a school previously where on a

1022
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Friday you could just go and get
breakfast for free.

1023
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,440
Yeah, just just just for free.
And it wasn't like you have to

1024
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,520
be here by this time or you have
to spend next amount of time

1025
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,920
with the children Breakfast
club, dah, dah, dah.

1026
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,880
It was just simply them saying
on a Friday, bacon roll Friday,

1027
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,080
bacon roll Friday, or, you know,
if you eat something about

1028
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,200
vegetarian sausages on a Friday,
whatever it might be, you just

1029
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,800
go and get some breakfast, some
cereal, some toast.

1030
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,720
It was just basically they said,
thanks, guy.

1031
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,360
We worked really hard.
Have a, you know, pick up a

1032
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,440
sandwich on your way through in
the morning That that is a

1033
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,720
perfect example to me of don't
have to do it.

1034
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,360
Might have had my own breakfast.
It's there, it's an option.

1035
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,440
There's no strings attached.
That's really good well-being.

1036
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,600
It's just hard when it's hard
wired into an hour.

1037
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,000
If you have to be sat in this
room and I'm going to force you,

1038
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,560
it's not when someone forces you
to have fun.

1039
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,520
We're about to have fun today,
guys.

1040
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,000
I'm probably not going to have
fun Now.

1041
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,920
If you're forcing me to do that,
it's probably not going to be

1042
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,160
fun for me.
Another one, insect days when

1043
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,960
when well-being stuff is built
into insect days.

1044
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,880
I feel like that's that's not in
circle hell, isn't it?

1045
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,080
That's.
Because you just want to get on

1046
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,480
a, yeah?
No one wants to do that.

1047
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,840
No one wants to do that.
We've got in, we've got an

1048
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,440
insect days, we've got two hours
special with some person coming

1049
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,600
in to run a course and it's like
I just don't want to do this.

1050
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,000
I just want to put my displays
up so I don't have to do it in

1051
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,400
term.
Yeah, it can be quite

1052
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,120
frustrating, that's for sure.
But yeah, there's, to me, it's

1053
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,200
the spectrum.
Yeah, There's a huge spectrum.

1054
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,800
It can be done well.
It's often not done well.

1055
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Absolutely.
It's often done in a way where

1056
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,280
actually it's more frustrating.
However, there are some really

1057
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,520
good initiatives out there of I
think it has to be just no

1058
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,040
strings attached.
Here's a little thing for you.

1059
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,560
Yeah.
Thank you so much.

1060
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,720
Go home.
I appreciate you, full stop.

1061
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,200
That's it.
No semicolon.

1062
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,000
No, no semicolon.
I'm going to do this.

1063
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,880
I appreciate you.
So give me this thing you.

1064
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,920
Have to do this thing for me
now.

1065
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
You have to this thing for me
now that's arbitrarily wait like

1066
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,200
3 times bigger than I'm giving
you.

1067
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,200
I gave you a miniature hero.
You give me to our club every

1068
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,600
week.
Yeah.

1069
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,200
Trained off well-being maybe.
No, it doesn't go well.

1070
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,480
Like that, right?
Hey there.

1071
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,360
Thank you so much.
I enjoyed that, as always.

1072
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,880
You're welcome.
Let's round out there.

1073
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,240
Anything to say before we
finish?

1074
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,280
Yeah, if you could please just
stop asking me this question,

1075
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,920
the end when I never have
anything to say, that would be

1076
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,880
fantastic.
And see you next week.

1077
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,240
Shut up.