1: Why Are Teachers Striking?

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Dylan Daily Mail front page,
cynical walk out.

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That portrays our children
again.

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Can you believe it?
These teachers our children

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cannot afford another day of
school?

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Not a single day.
I absolutely agree.

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But before we carry on, I'm just
going to phone call one second.

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Hello, I King Charles I did not
bad.

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Not bad.
Yep, no problem.

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So you get a crown on your head
on Saturday and you want the

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schools to close on the Monday
for all children.

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Okay and when is this SATs week?
Yeah, one day won't hurt, no

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problem.
See you then.

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Hey everyone, welcome to the
first episode of this brand, new

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podcast, teach sleep, repeat my
name is Dylan, and my name is

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Hayden and we are primary school
teachers.

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And we thought what better way
to start our podcast with one of

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the most quietest weeks in
recent, history, Hayden anything

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happening this week and not
really Monday pretty normal

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Tuesday.
Yeah, and so on Wednesday, we

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had a couple hundred thousand
teachers got a strike.

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Oh, Not know what a pretty
significant.

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So we chosen this week to start
off our podcast.

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For those of you who don't know,
I'm sure you will do because

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it's been flooding, the media,
the any you, which is one of the

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biggest education unions in the
country ballad to their members

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over the last few months.
Hayden, the nine members of the,

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any you, and I don't think
Hayden mines are saying that we

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voted.
Yes to strike action and after

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the turnout of over 50% and with
90%, plus voting to strike, it

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came into effect on the first of
the February, which was a

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Wednesday.
And the only one hundreds of

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thousands of teachers on strike,
but there are hundreds of

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thousands of other workers.
I think, in total Hayden, it

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went past, five hundred thousand
people on strike.

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So it's a really big thing
that's happened and I we think,

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you know, as to teachers and a
lot of stuff in the press as you

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could tell by her intro this
week not necessarily being very

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supportive.
I think we want to get our point

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across don't we?
Yeah absolutely.

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And like one of the biggest
things for me, I'm just going to

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Chuck this stat.
You was just seeing How many new

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members the any you gained in
the last couple of weeks and

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that just speaks volumes to me?
And I know they use that stat a

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lot in their, in their kind of
campaign as well, but I think it

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was around 40,000 40,000.
Yeah, I had I think by the end,

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it was about 20,000 because just
to clarify, there are a couple

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of teaching unions, not all of
them at the threshold to strike.

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So I think people felt very
passionately about their desire

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to strike.
So for them to switch over in

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the interim period, it does just
show that, you know, this is a

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strongly supported strike in the
profession for sure.

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Yeah.
So what I wanted to do Hayden,

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I've kind of come up this little
game okay because what I didn't

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want to happen was we just jump
on here and then we just end up

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getting into a heated argument
where we both agree with each

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other and get annoyed where I
went.

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So as always, so what we've got
here is quite a nice little.

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Let's just say role-playing
activity.

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So I've put together some of the
most popular, Auntie strike are

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Difference, right?
And I can tell already just by

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your face that I can see.
You are already willing to fight

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against, I'm ready?
I'm raring.

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I can feel my Palms getting
sweaty.

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I'm sure that's a vivid image
for the listeners.

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So, just full disclosure here
obviously, there's lots of

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arguments online.
We see in the newspapers but

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this these particular arguments
I found them on a really, really

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interesting.
In Instagram page called Emily

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explains.
It's been posted around Lots.

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She's brilliant at making these
infographics.

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So make sure you do try and just
check that out.

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But she put together these
slides of common arguments

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against the strike and how to
kind of counteract them.

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Now, I know for a fact Hayden,
you haven't seen them.

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So you don't know these
arguments Advanced.

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So I'm going to see what you can
tell me as a teacher who voted,

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yes to strike action, where we
actually stand.

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So that if anyone actually does
have these arguments in their

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head and they don't necessarily
go, the strikes where we are

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coming from, right?
You better not maybe make me

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embarrass myself at Dillon, no
way, no way.

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And I just want to say there are
a few arguments against the

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strike that were not even going
to contemplate, right?

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So anyone who says you shouldn't
be allowed to strike when I'm

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gonna go there, Yeah.
Okay, that's fair enough.

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So let's get started.
Let's go straight in and I'm

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going to put in a voice as well.
Okay, this is the classic anti

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strike and teacher person.
I'm going to get into the role

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ready.
Not wait to hear what you sound

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like.
Okay, let's do this after covid.

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Kids need to be in school.
That's why do you sound like

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that?
Amazing?

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Right, so, we start again, I'm
listening.

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I need to tell me take this
seriously.

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Here we go.
Okay, I'm gonna do the poster

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after covid.
The kids need to be in school.

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Especially the vulnerable ones.
Or did I tell you what?

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I'm a cat.
I'm annoyed.

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You started with this one
because that's probably like,

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the biggest argument.
The one that nearly made me go

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on, maybe we shouldn't, but my
gut reaction to that because

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someone said that to me in
person was yeah.

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Okay.
Well they're also not a school

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at the weekends and all of the
half times and holidays and

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other bank holidays, including
the bank holiday that was thrown

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at us randomly this year for
King Charles as well.

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So I just don't think it really
holds up personally as a reason

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not to strike as if it's like
that's that counteracts.

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Else like all of the reasons we
do strike for I don't think

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although it's a good argument
because obviously we care about

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these kids.
And that's the idea of that

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argument is like praying on us
on our sort of our weakness.

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Is I guess, of course, we care
about these children and it's

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hard to say.
Now don't do want to look after

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those kids, you know.
But I just think there's a

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bigger picture.
Yeah, absolutely great.

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And from my point of view, the
thing it really frustrates me is

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when someone plays the
vulnerable children card, you

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know, or you know, there's
children who have special

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educational needs because if
we're going to get angry about

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the provision for these children
because they miss school for one

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extra day.
Like you said, which is just one

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day of over 100 in this, in the
whole year.

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When they're not in school, we
should be getting 100 times as

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angry.
At the fact that any budget has

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been been squeezed over the last
decade, there's no money in

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place to support these children.
The social care aspect has been

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absolutely drained, and these
children are falling through the

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net.
So for someone to pick that up

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as a kind of point, I just think
they're actually missing the

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bigger picture and I tell you
something as well.

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I really don't like, is this
like whole rhetoric around like

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it, that every responsibility is
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I don't like that.
Like, obviously teachers are

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responsible for loads of things
and we shouldn't say that

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they're not but the whole point
of this strike is to say.

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It's the government that are in
charge of this the government

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can change that if we have a
problem with these vulnerable

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children, not having a place to
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The government can do something
about that.

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That's the point of the strike
at the end of they like you're

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saying, we're not trained social
workers.

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We want the absolute best for
these children and we have a

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specific skill set that we're
very good at and we take

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Safeguard and extremely
seriously.

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And if I had to say the number
one, most important part of my

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job, that I take the most
seriously, is that children, are

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in a safe environment, but it's
a separate argument to striking

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or not.
It really is.

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Yeah, it's not enough to say no
no striking.

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So good.
Try Dylan.

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Okay.
Okay, so I'm going to I'm going

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to get into role now as someone
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country because I'm sure not all
people from London are against

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the strike, so bad accent.
I'm gonna.

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Yeah, I'm going to find an
accent ready, right?

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I hope you're ready for this.
Well teachers, happy hot.

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Sorry why I just yeah, I was
expecting that.

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Come on.
It's a posh.

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It's a posh lady.
Now, from somewhere in the

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middle of the country is why
wouldn't you just gone straight

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to that ya?
Go teachers have been offered up

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to a nine percent pay rise.
They just being greedy.

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Oh gosh that's my favorite
that's my favorite one.

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This is the easiest one to bat
away.

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Look it's simple.
If inflation is let's say 10% to

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make it easy and you don't get a
10% pay rise.

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You haven't had a pay rise at
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If anything you've had a pay
cut, if you get 10 percent, you

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still haven't had a pay rise.
You just get in the same pay as

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last year is just scaled up.
Yeah, absolutely.

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And you know the annoys me the
most about this rhetoric because

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Jillian Keegan the education
secretary has been on the

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television and I said, this
sentence out loud and it's

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outrageous because it's a
classic case of using data to

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support your argument.
In a really snide way, she went

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on and said, teaches some
teachers will be receiving a 15%

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pay rise and they keep saying
the things along the line was

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along the lines of newly
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Teachers will be receiving a 9%
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This is Ingenuous because the
vast majority of teachers are

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not newly qualified teachers and
they will not be receiving

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anything close to a nine percent
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So to say that as the kind of
answer to well you know teachers

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are getting a pay rise for my
staff.

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It's nowhere near that it's just
lying.

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Really?
I was actually speaking to an EC

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T recently and it's that was
just a bit of confusion in like

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this idea of pay rise is
actually little bit annoying

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because they were saying I'm
getting a really good pay rise

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because I'm jumping from like
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Wanda Bantu and obviously there
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inflationary pressure, rise on
that as well.

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Which feels like a good pay rise
but I think we need to stop

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confusing this idea of moving
through the band's within your

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job.
That's a different kind of pay

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rise to the inflationary.
Pay rise for people that are on

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the same band like that.
That's a very different thing

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and it should fill it should be
even bigger.

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You know, you should have you
should have both.

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I think you've just absolutely
hit the nail on the head there,

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because we have progression in
paying our jobs because we're

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more experienced.
We have more more ability to

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kind of deal with children gets
better.

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And we're trusted more as we get
more and more years behind us in

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the profession.
So that that progression is

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completely separate to
inflation.

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You're absolutely right.
So yeah, they're going to get a

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pay rise.
Absolutely.

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But that's not just the way they
show data, it's just so

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disingenuous.
Yeah.

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So yeah, I think I agree that
argument when I saw that.

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I thought Hayden will have a
field day here because that's

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not how inflation works.
Yeah, I like the Tories though.

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Isn't it too?
Sort of complaint data, got a

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user, the big pick out the best
bits to push their agenda.

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That's just strange.
Don't normally see that the

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really annoys me because just on
a side note they said in prime

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minister's questions, Ritchie
sooner was saying, it's the

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largest increase in pay for 30
years and I was just saying,

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cool, should we put that in the
context of the last 12?

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Yes, i-i'll call.
It's also the largest rise in

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inflation, so it's kind of
irrelevant.

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Yeah, it's like yeah, if you
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percentage and take away the
It's rise.

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It's actually the biggest it
with honesty.

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So nice one.
Oh man, just a classic case of

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using data to back up your
argument and being disingenuous

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it's just snide it's Sneaky and
it's what they're really, really

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good at and it works for them.
That's the problem.

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It does and you know, as you can
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let's go on to number three
ready?

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Yep, yep.
We're doing this person to be

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from.
Well, you kind of shot me with

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the the the Posh woman somewhere
up north, you know, go back to

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your roots.
Yeah.

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Yeah, true.
I mean just for anyone listening

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I am a northerner at harm and it
sound like it.

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Okay, what word, the odd word
that comes out, as Northern

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gone.
It's 111 instead of one rant

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one.
And I'm just gonna have a Bryant

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that's like super, super Posh.
It's like, I know what every

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time you say.
I can't take you seriously

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going, right?
Let's get this.

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Have a rant.
So the next one.

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Okay, you got to like this song
enough.

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I'm not. 13 weeks off each year,
a good pension, I can't believe

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it.
Oh man, two things ready?

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I'm going to summarize this real
quick holidays aren't paid.

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We just have our pay spread
across the year and not paid.

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So please stop using that I can
make three points.

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I lied, second point is, if you
take all the hours, a teacher

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works.
In the year, it's still more

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hours and most people work in a
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It's just we have 13 weeks
holiday.

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Those hours are just more
condensed and my third Point,

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pensions.
They have been massively

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massively.
What's the word I'm looking for?

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Not scrapped, but made much
worse over the last 12 years.

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Pensions used to be way better.
They're still good.

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Pensions, don't get me wrong but
they were better.

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Yeah, they used to be and I
believe it was Final salary,

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right?
Yeah.

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So you would work your way up
the scale and then wherever you

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want, find a salary.
That would be a pension.

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And just a quick note here, and
I agree with what you're saying

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because now, it's an average
salary the way it works.

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Is one 57th or whatever you earn
in a year.

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Yeah that goes on to your
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So every time for example you
only 30,000 pounds, I think it's

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something like over that year,
you earned 500 pounds a year for

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your pension.
And the next year of your own

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32,000 pounds, you might earn an
extra five hundred fifty pounds

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your pension every year.
So if you retired, then your

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pension would be 1000 whatever
that be one thousand and fifty

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pounds every year.
So you're getting an average is

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not final salary anymore, so if
you'll get somewhere in the

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middle, so there was a lot of
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That but also its kind of this.
There's two points I want to

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make here number one is just
because some things in the job

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are good or above average, it
doesn't mean that you then just

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ignore the bits that are really
detrimental to you providing the

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care that you need.
Especially in something as

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important as looking after
children.

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This the, you know, it's a
really important job and we're

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not trying to say other jobs are
less important or more

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important.
But if there's a problem with

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it, someone pointing at
something that's okay, in the

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system, doesn't really cut it as
an argument.

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And the other thing I wanted to
to say was and maybe you can

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answer this.
Hey Adam if the 13 weeks off

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each year in the pension so
amazing.

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Why aren't there more teachers?
Yeah, not not.

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Even just that is like the
teacher rate is dropping and

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dropping and dropping struggling
to recruit new teachers.

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So yeah, if it is so desirable
as people like to point out with

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these amazing weeks.
Yeah.

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Like where are the teachers
then?

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Absolutely.
I think it was a 40% below.

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The target for newly qualified
teachers car.

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Something along those lines.
Yeah that anti know what's

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crazy.
What's bad about that as well.

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If you think about it, the
government having a real push to

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the minute to say, starting
salaries.

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They're going up by 10%.
You're going to start to 30

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grand soon.
That was a big 2019, Manifesto

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pledge for the Tories.
It's not come in yet because

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they say because of covid
etcetera.

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But, you know, they're really,
really trying to get people

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through the door and it's not
working.

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And you need to compound that
with how many teachers leave the

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profession.
Within three or five years.

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It's just actually saw someone
on Facebook really recently

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genuinely just quoting the exact
thing they were like I was

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promised this salary and it's
just not true.

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They're really annoyed and
probably quit immediately.

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I don't know what happened, but
it did make me laugh.

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Yeah, retention is a big issue
one-fifth of teachers.

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Quit in the first three years,
one-third of teachers, quit in

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the first five years.
Can you just imagine how much

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money out of their own pocket?
They spent to train to be a

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teacher in University 9,000
pound a year.

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They do it for less than 5 years
and say, nope, not worth it.

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They take that debt on and it's
such a dire situation that they

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don't even bother carrying on
with depression.

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Yep.
It's not too crazy and people

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will ignore that point because
it doesn't fit their agenda.

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So so moving swiftly on to them.
Moving swiftly on, I've got a

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few more.
So let's go for this one.

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If you don't like it that much
mate, we're back to London by

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the way.
If this guy has a fair few

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arguments, if you don't like it
that much power, why don't you

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get another job?
I actually had this argument

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made to me recently, I'm not
going to say who, but it was

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genuine for someone in my
family.

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Making this argument to me.
I was so enraged and my

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response.
It was I didn't I tried not to

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get too involved my but my
response was simply cool.

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Well, if we all take that
advice, good luck having any

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teachers or nurses because it
was kind of about like it the

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whole public sector.
I just what a stupid argument.

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Like, I respect the idea that
someone might want to go and get

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another job and and work up a
different ladder and have a

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different pay opportunities.
That's cool with me.

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I love that, but it doesn't work
for everyone.

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You can't say to every single
teacher, just yeah, we'll go get

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it.
Job then then you'll have no

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teachers.
Will you so don't that's not the

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solution to the problem.
We need to fix the actual issue

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with teaching, make it a
desirable job, it really reminds

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me of this this mean that was
going around and it was this

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conservative guy in America.
I remember his name but he was

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giving a speech and there they
were talking about rising sea

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levels, right?
So one of the students said,

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look, our Coastal area, are
coastal town within x amount of

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years, due to, you know, climb,
It change which the guy was

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trying to refute basically say,
oh, it's not a problem, either

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to think about it due to climate
change, our houses will be under

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water water within within 30
years or something.

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And the guy just respond saying,
yeah, well you know, if that

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happens just sell them and in
the mean, was someone coming in

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saying to who there are
underwater?

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Like I know exactly what you're
talking about.

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I live on the internet, I've
seen this Meme and I believe he

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says to who Aquaman Classic
classic example of that.

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Just that backwards thinking,
there's not a real solution.

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It might be on an individual
level to like, one or two people

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that manage to do that, but it
doesn't work.

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Yeah, okay, I've got one more,
I've got one more because this,

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this was interesting to me
because there were a few points

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I want to make, but I want to
see what you say.

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We're going to Scotland for this
one.

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Ready.
They earn more than the average

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worker.
They should be quite content

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with that.
That's very good.

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I didn't listen to a word you
said, because I was just

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listening to your accent.
Could you say again?

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But with a more thick accent.
Right.

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That's good.
Because you can understand it

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the first place.
Yeah, but now I'm going to

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listen to it.
Now, this is just for that, this

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just for estimating, they earn
more than the average worker.

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They earn more than me.
And I work hard, they should be

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happy.
This is actually really tough

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one.
And I don't get to actually,

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don't get too annoyed at this
one because I think it's really

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easy to just very quickly lose
empathy, for other people

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because Lee.
The reality is, a lot of people

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are in dire conditions in this
country and they don't even have

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unions sometimes to back them up
and they're just stuck.

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So, I kind of understand why
these people might get a bit

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better because they see someone
in a better position and like

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fighting for more.
And they can't even fight for

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more and they're not getting
paid as much like I get it.

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I absolutely agree.
And this is, this is why I

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wanted to bring this one up
because I really, really, really

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want people to understand that
we do have empathy.

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Yeah, we do understand that.
And honestly, what I would say

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to this is we just look at what
happened this week during the

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strikes, look at how many
hundreds of thousands of other

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people from other professions.
Look at every other job that

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have gone on strike lately and
even then look at the jobs that

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have even worse conditions and
worse pay them teachers have.

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Now look, I know we have
University degrees.

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I know we are trained
Professionals in certain in this

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job, which is a very specific
job.

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Which is highly skilled, tricky
and important.

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But the you cannot look down on
someone and say their job is any

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less important.
Look at covid with the key

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workers who were the people that
kept the country running, right?

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Yeah.
The teachers, provided some care

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for the key workers, but who are
the key workers, who did who

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picked up all of the, the bins
every single week still, when

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there are no protector, there's
no protection before, any

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vaccines or anything.
We're not buying food and shops.

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Are we without people?
You still working there.

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You know.
I agree.

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So are speaking to some people
who work in a retail near me

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recently.
I've got quite a few friends

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that work in retail and they're
actually saying although they

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don't really have that kind of
Union support and yeah, they're

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not they're not being paid as
much in that profession

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generally when these strikes
happen and when pay does

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actually change, it does lift up
the private sector as well.

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Because obviously, the private
sector is very competitive.

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So if they have terrible,
terrible pay compared to other

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places people are going to
leave.

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So pay does generally In these
places like it, when teachers

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strike, or when the, you know,
the union strike from any public

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sector.
It's not just them that will

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benefit from any positive
changes.

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It does kind of spread out to
the other sectors, as well.

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And I think that's really
important for people to

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understand.
Yeah, it's not isolationist,

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right?
It's not just, and what it can

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turn into is a race to the
bottom, and it could be about us

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fighting each other, right?
Do you think the Amazon worker

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and I we have more in common as
teachers to an Amazon worker.

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We do as teachers to the, the
big cats in the city.

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To the ultra-rich, we are much
closer to these people.

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We are essentially working class
were no longer, it's no longer

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really a middle-class job.
Teachers can't afford a house.

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If they've just starting out,
you know, you need to have dual

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income.
You need to have support from

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parents.
It's no longer traditionally

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middle class, even we just got a
certain education level, a

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certain level of qualification,
you know.

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I'm a bit of a Facebook Warrior,
right?

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You know, better keyboard
Warrior, you know, this, you

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know, this is just that To get
into heated debates online

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because I grew up in that
generation.

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But anyway, right, I was talking
to someone recently, who was

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like really cool.
They were really supportive of

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the teacher strikes and they're
kind of reasoning was if we make

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the profession more desirable
then we will attract.

456
00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:18,000
Skilled people who will uplift
the education system, a really

457
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:23,100
good quality argument for why we
need better rights anyway in the

458
00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:28,000
same breath this person.
Then compare Lately just

459
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,000
slaughtered like the rail
strikes and train train drivers

460
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,600
and things like this saying.
It is disgusting.

461
00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:37,200
But these people like, almost
like, not even calling the

462
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,100
people Were Striking, how dare
they, when they make so much

463
00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:45,200
money strike for, you know,
rights, all these basic things

464
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,700
called REITs.
And I, and, and I think that is

465
00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:49,400
just is exactly what you were
saying about.

466
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,500
It's a race to the bottom, like
just because they are a bit

467
00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:53,200
more.
That is irrelevant.

468
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,400
Now, they're there.
Now scum because actually, they

469
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,800
don't earn as a Well, as me, so
I'm an Outlaw strike because I

470
00:21:58,808 --> 00:22:01,000
need more.
Absolutely.

471
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,500
And you know, that's case in
point with the rmt, right?

472
00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:07,100
The majority of people they're
striking for are even still the

473
00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:10,000
low, paid workers the cleaners,
the people who work at the

474
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,600
station's.
The drivers were a part of it

475
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,100
and they're entitled to strike
and get an inflationary payroll.

476
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,900
So they want to maintain their
lifestyle because that's that.

477
00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:19,900
What pay they get?
It's irrelevant.

478
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,300
But you know, that's just
classic right wing media, using

479
00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:24,900
that latching onto it.
Oh, train drivers on this, they

480
00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:28,100
only reason they're reporting.
That is to undermine them and

481
00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:29,700
it's the same when they say,
teachers aren't on.

482
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,700
Is 42,000 pounds a year, the
main pay scale of teaching.

483
00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:36,900
If you're just a classroom
teacher goes to 38,000 pounds,

484
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:40,300
how can you sit there and say
the average pay for a teacher is

485
00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,300
42,000 pounds.
The, you are fudging the numbers

486
00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:44,500
again.
I'm sure there's some maths

487
00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:46,900
where you can justify it
somehow, but it is not an

488
00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:49,000
accurate representation and
they're doing it politically

489
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,600
motivated.
Well, as that we've got, got any

490
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,900
more for me, I can take it now.
Yeah, that'll do for now.

491
00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,100
Well, well, well played.
I liked about that was a nice

492
00:22:58,100 --> 00:22:59,700
discussion, there was one other
thing.

493
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,200
Want to just chat back quickly
and it's something I've noticed,

494
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,100
you know, we're part of Facebook
groups for the teachers.

495
00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:08,500
We've got active in them
sometimes and we see arguments

496
00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:12,400
and back and forth and then was
an element of toxicity and my

497
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,900
say, at some points between
those who are striking and knows

498
00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:21,600
who went and just the idea of
teacher versus teacher, actually

499
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,100
at each other's throats
different ideologies, different

500
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:27,000
reasons for doing stuff.
And I just wanted to get your

501
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,700
take on on that kind of friction
and wear.

502
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,700
Where you stand on that.
You know, do you as such as a

503
00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:36,400
striker or both strike?
Do you feel at all?

504
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:39,200
That way, towards some people
who have chosen not to strike,

505
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:46,200
for example, you know what?
It's hard not to and I do I feel

506
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,900
like a bit of a child when I do
this because I, you know, I, you

507
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:53,100
know, we try not to generalize
but I do feel maybe a little bit

508
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:58,300
bitter, perhaps, I just don't
understand some reasons but like

509
00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:03,700
I feel like I haven't yet.
Heard a really strong reason not

510
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:05,900
to strike.
That can't be kind of quite

511
00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:09,000
quickly and easily like
retaliated.

512
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,300
Do you know what I mean?
Okay, so you got me a mean and

513
00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:13,200
maybe I can throw a couple at
you and just see what you think.

514
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,600
Okay, so really big one at the
minute.

515
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,100
It's the literal reason we're
striking.

516
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,900
It's called pay up because we
want an inflationary pay rice.

517
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:23,000
Just they can't afford to take
the hit on their pay.

518
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:25,500
Yeah.
Like when when I first heard

519
00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:26,600
that I was like yeah that's a
really valid point.

520
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,200
Actually it sucks because you
know You know the whole point is

521
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,200
yeah, maybe if we had better pay
conditions this you wouldn't be

522
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,200
able to take a day.
So it's kind of ironic but also

523
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,100
the unions are there to support
those people.

524
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,700
They will support you that
they've got massive schemes, you

525
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:44,300
can apply for funding for that
day.

526
00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:46,800
If you really need it like you
can still support the strikes.

527
00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:49,600
I think from my point of view, I
agree.

528
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,400
The big thing for me is I
absolutely 100%.

529
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,800
I was always going to strike I,
I believe it fully.

530
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,200
But what I will say is that I do
I actually completely and

531
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,500
utterly respect the individuals
choice to strike or not.

532
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:08,200
And at the end of the day and
I'm sure you'll agree deep down,

533
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,800
I know we will it's irrelevant.
Whether we agree with their

534
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,100
decision or not it's irrelevant
whether we think their reasons

535
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,200
are Justified or not.
They have the right to not

536
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,700
strike and they don't have to.
But there is a line and I'll

537
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:22,500
explain this line and I see if
it's any different for you.

538
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,900
Someone deciding not to strike.
But understands.

539
00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:29,700
All right, equally back, if they
don't strike, they're going to

540
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:32,600
work, they do their job and then
they go home, they teach their

541
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,600
class, they go home, they got
paid, we're all back in.

542
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:37,600
We're colleagues.
We got on with each other.

543
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,100
Absolutely, no hard feelings.
They understand why we did it.

544
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,000
We understand that they have the
right to do that to, which is

545
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,800
absolutely fine.
The line for me is, if a teacher

546
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:54,100
has chosen not to strike and
then maybe is undermining one of

547
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:57,400
their colleagues, Eggs by going
in and covering a class to me,

548
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,000
that's a different line.
It's an active Choice.

549
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000
What do you think?
Yeah.

550
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,400
Like there's two layers to it,
isn't there?

551
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,100
If you are truly in the position
where you could have, just not

552
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:10,300
done that, then I do, I don't
really like that position.

553
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:14,300
It does make me feel like it is
a bit undermining, but I do also

554
00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:16,700
understand that.
Like, you and I quite Bowl, she

555
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,900
didn't like we're, you know,
we're quite confident generally

556
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:21,800
when we were in school, maybe
just from years of work in the

557
00:26:21,808 --> 00:26:23,600
profession, but a lot of people
aren't idea.

558
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,400
Forget that sometimes A lot of
people, like, even people are

559
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,400
doing this strike, it was a huge
move for them.

560
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,700
And they've probably spent the
whole day feeling really nervous

561
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,600
about what their colleagues
think, what their, what, their

562
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,200
bosses think, you know?
And, and I reckon some people

563
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,900
are probably in that same sort
of position that aren't

564
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:39,800
striking.
And they just think, I don't

565
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,900
really want to do this.
But I also, this is my boss

566
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:44,100
telling me to go and cover this
class, you know?

567
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:47,600
So I think we just have to kind
of understand that side of the

568
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,400
coin as well.
Yeah, you're right.

569
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,200
And it, you know, it's about
maintaining that balance of your

570
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,100
relationships at work, right?
Because even from the point of

571
00:26:56,108 --> 00:26:59,400
view of heads have been directly
instructed by the government to

572
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,800
do, everything they can to open
school for as many children as

573
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,100
possible.
And that's manifested itself, in

574
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,600
lots of different ways across
the country.

575
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,700
Some schools had to close some
schools, managed to find ways to

576
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:11,300
open.
Even when most of the staff Were

577
00:27:11,308 --> 00:27:17,400
Striking, and as someone who did
take part in the strike, I felt

578
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,200
that my first reaction was
slight annoyance at those

579
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,300
schools who had really gone out
of their way above and beyond to

580
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:28,500
get as many of the children in
the school as possible, simply

581
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,400
because it kind of felt like it
was undermining the fact that

582
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,300
we're taking a pay cut to take
strike action.

583
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,100
Yeah and you know up until
recently covering wasn't even a

584
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:39,100
thing that was accepted when it
comes to strikes, that's the

585
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:41,700
idea of a strike, you're
withholding your labor and that

586
00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,900
destruction is the reason you're
striking.

587
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:48,300
So, you know, cover is a massive
The strike action that kind of

588
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,800
in a way, nullifies it in the
first place, whilst still losing

589
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,200
your paper, taking part in
strike action, but I just think

590
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,900
the more, the more you think
about it.

591
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,700
I obviously want what's best for
the children.

592
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,400
I would not be a teacher
otherwise.

593
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:04,000
So if you're telling me that
children got to go to school,

594
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,600
see their friends being a safe
environment and especially

595
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,100
vulnerable children.
I think that subjectively a good

596
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:11,400
thing and I don't suddenly think
that's a bad thing just because

597
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,700
I voted to strike.
So there's that two parts in the

598
00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:15,800
head, I think being able to
compartmentalize those two

599
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,400
things.
Things and understand that both

600
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,900
of them can be valid and the
same person hold both of youse.

601
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,900
I think that really helped me to
actually just say I'm striking.

602
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:25,500
I'm doing it for this reason and
it didn't really affect me them

603
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,100
and what happened from then on.
Yeah, I think so.

604
00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:32,800
I wonder if King, Charles will
will ring in, give us that they

605
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,200
back, you know, completely
negate it.

606
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,200
How about on?
Yeah, on that day.

607
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,000
Yeah, we get the choice to go
into school or not.

608
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:39,900
No.
Yeah.

609
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,900
For the children for the
children's sake, we're going to

610
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:45,300
go in now as teachers article
on, but obviously that is so we

611
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:46,000
can't argue.
Yeah.

612
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:49,500
Yeah, absolutely can't miss a
single day of school unless I

613
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:51,800
man's getting a Golden Crown on
his head.

614
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,300
So, this might be a little bit
challenging Dylan, but I hope

615
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,000
I'm hoping you can rise to this
in sort of summary.

616
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,600
What would be your key?
Takeaway?

617
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,700
Like, what would be your key
point that you'd like the

618
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:05,500
listeners to sort of consider or
think about?

619
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:08,700
Now about everything?
We discussed two strikes, I'll

620
00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:10,800
probably say one or two things
in this, but I'll try to be

621
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,100
succinct, and put into a
sentence for me.

622
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,800
These strikes are about the
longevity of our profession.

623
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:23,800
And the fact we really care
about these kids, we cannot keep

624
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,600
going what's been happening for
the last 12 years to our budget

625
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000
is unreal.
And yes, we're asking for a pay

626
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,100
rise and yes, it's a high amount
that the unions have gone in

627
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,700
for, but that's supposed to be
the start of a negotiation,

628
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:37,400
which the government just don't
seem bothered to do.

629
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,000
They've got their decision to
just going with it but from our

630
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,100
point of view, why have we gone
on strike?

631
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:45,100
It is to help the children in
the long term.

632
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,600
No one is a teacher for the fun
of it.

633
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:49,800
We were going to carry on
working long hours.

634
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,300
We're going to carry on putting
our heart and soul into the job

635
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:56,500
to give the children the best
chance possible but it can't

636
00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:59,000
happen unless we are funded
properly.

637
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,800
And the biggest part of this
strike action for me, the thing

638
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,600
that really really pushed me
over the edge was that it's all

639
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,000
about it being funded if
teachers A pay rise that's in

640
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,100
line with inflation, but it has
to come from the school's

641
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:15,100
existing budget.
That is not good enough.

642
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,700
We are not just endlessly greedy
looking for 11 more, money

643
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:21,000
ourselves, no teacher would
accept that because provision

644
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,200
for children would go down.
It would dip, we need more money

645
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,400
in our schools so that we can
deliver quality education care,

646
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,200
and support for every single
child and attract.

647
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,300
The best Educators.
I think would be the only thing

648
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:37,200
I'd add to that.
That is, you know there is so

649
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,100
much More to my pocket and your
pocket in a pay rise.

650
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:45,200
So pay up government.
It's not just for me it's for

651
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,900
the kids.
It's for the whole educational

652
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,300
Community.
It's what needs to be done.

653
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:54,800
So as far as far as podcast go
Hayden, pretty heavy one, would

654
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,900
you agree?
Yeah.

655
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:58,600
Big time considering when we
were thinking about doing a

656
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,400
podcast we were like, hey let's
make a really fun like silly

657
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,300
educational thing.
And we were like, yeah, let's

658
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:07,400
will start with the hardest,
hardest hitting topic, ever.

659
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,300
Well, you know why?
Because it was in the news and

660
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:11,500
it's what really matters,
passionate didn't.

661
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,000
And we actually wanted to get
its message out.

662
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,200
So this is the start of our
podcast next week.

663
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,900
We will be back and it might be
a little bit more.

664
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:18,100
Lighthearted.
What do you think we should go

665
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,000
for hours?
And I talked about the lack of

666
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,300
Prince sticks in my cupboard.
Exact.

667
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:23,300
That's what the people want to
hear.

668
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,800
No one was here about strikes.
We do, let's talk about the fact

669
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,600
that we have one print stick per
30 children.

670
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:29,500
Yeah.
And we'll blame the government.

671
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:31,500
No, no, no.
We're not going to go there,

672
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,600
we've done it.
We've done that Justice today.

673
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,200
All right, that could be a
feature of our podcast, you

674
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,100
know, blame the government.
I can think of a little jingle.

675
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Blaming the government for
another thing.

676
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:43,400
I'm going to make this into a
jingle.

677
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:46,000
I'm going to take this audio
clip guys, you will see this

678
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:48,400
again.
Thank you for listening, see you

679
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:22,300
next time.
Exact.

680
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:23,300
That's what the people want to
hear.

681
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,800
No one was here about strikes.
We do, let's talk about the fact

682
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,600
that we have one print stick per
30 children.

683
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:29,500
Yeah.
And we'll blame the government.

684
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:31,500
No, no, no.
We're not going to go there,

685
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,600
we've done it.
We've done that Justice today.

686
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,200
All right, that could be a
feature of our podcast, you

687
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,100
know, blame the government.
I can think of a little jingle.

688
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Blaming the government for
another thing.

689
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:43,400
I'm going to make this into a
jingle.

690
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:46,000
I'm going to take this audio
clip guys, you will see this

691
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:48,400
again.
Thank you for listening, see you

692
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:48,800
next time.