Ep 75: The Ultimate Back-To-School Guide For Teachers: Routines, Behaviour & Self-Care

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I like to eat, eat, eat, eat
apples and bananas.

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Oh wait, I'm sorry though, this
is the podcast, not our

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children's nursery rhymes that
live went free in our head

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constantly for 24/7.
Oh, some of my madness.

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We are absolutely going crazy,
guys.

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Hello, welcome back to another
episode of Teach Sleep repeat.

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My name is Dylan and my name is
Hayden, and it has been a short

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little while, hasn't it?
Because we.

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Just couldn't be bothered,
couldn't be bothered because we

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were just relaxing so much.
I think it's been a three-week

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break, yeah.
And I think people have been on

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tenderhooks.
Yeah.

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Wait, is that the saying tender
or tenderhooks?

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Let's die off strong guys.
I'll tell you what, it's not the

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one you think it is.
I don't know.

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They've been waiting with bated
breath for us to return.

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I don't know, it's baby breath.
Don't talk to me about baby

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breath.
I've got some news starting off

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really quickly.
OK, I am now a gym shark

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athlete.
Oh, I can tell, yeah, from the

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gym shark clothing that you're
wearing.

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I am having a gym shark and I
thought, you know what, I'm

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going to buy some clothes and I
hate shopping.

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And I think you're the same as
me.

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You mentioned this before where
I don't actually ever, ever want

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in my life.
I've never thought, you know

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what I'd like to do?
I'd like to get out of my comfy,

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warm home.
Yeah.

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Drive somewhere in horrible
traffic.

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Lots of people.
Lots of people try and park

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where it's really hard to park
because everyone's going there

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for some reason.
Leave my car, go into a shop

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which is absolutely rammed full
of other people.

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Lots of people, loads of people
who I don't want to, don't know

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and don't want to be anywhere
near and spend an hour picking

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up clothes, touching them,
putting them back.

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That other people have also done
that for the last however long.

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Going to a fitting room and try
clothes on half of which don't

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fit.
Get annoyed at.

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Myself up to that point I was
going to say this sounds like

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going to school and sorting
through the lost problem.

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It's changing, but I also don't
like doing that anyway.

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I hate shopping essentially, and
so when I decide I'm going

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shopping, I go cool, I'm going
to buy 57 tops, have to come

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again for three years.
So that's basically where we're

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at.
I'm a Gym Shark athlete that is

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sponsored without any money
being given to me.

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Instead, I give Gym Shark the
400% of what they're.

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Owed and you get to look really
cool.

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I wish this is annoying me a
little bit.

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You know what you know exactly
why it's annoying me.

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You know exactly.
Why it's annoying me?

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I don't know at all why this is,
because I.

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Wish we could do a little
flashbacks on this, you know,

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like a little show.
Because we can imagine.

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What is the past if not a
figment of our imagination?

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I think what the past is you
taking the Mick out of me for

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honestly, more like years,
multiples of years because I had

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some gym shop clothing.
You're like, oh, do you go to

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the gym?
Are you go to the gym?

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That belly go to the gym are
you?

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Doesn't look like it.
Two things #1 sharp and #2 be

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quiet.
Wow, I'm much more active than

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you are.
How all the tables have turned?

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Anyway, so let's move it on.
How have you found some

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holidays?
Because I'm reading your notes

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because they're right there in
front of.

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Us.
But you mean the notes that

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you've got on Instagram?
There you go.

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Obviously empty.
Find us on Instagram, by the

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way, at teach seek, repeat
podcast.

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Oh, and find us on Blue Sky.
But I'm going to talk to you

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about that in a minute.
Anyone from Blue Sky Hi will

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come to you, don't worry.
But why are you knackered

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constantly?
Says knackered constantly.

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That's it.
There's no, there's no, you

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know, you're not expanded on
that at all.

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Like, oh, you're knackered
because.

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There's a podcast you're like,
gotta pretend I don't know why,

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as if I'm not living the same
life.

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I'll tell you why I'm knackered,
constantly dead and maybe

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you're.
Gracious, you just don't know.

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Because we've got 2 little
children, they're both under one

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year old and some holidays have
been constantly knackered

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because she's up all the time.
I saw a poster over there that

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was something like hands up if
you're also a parent and

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therefore some holidays aren't
remotely Restful.

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This is the least energetic I've
felt in my whole life.

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I'm.
So good job of doing an episode

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about getting ready for
September.

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Yeah, I know, I know.
But even like Lauren and I

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yesterday were saying like kind
of looking forward to going back

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to work.
It's going to be.

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A break.
It's going to be a break.

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I wonder if it must be the
hardest summer when they're

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under one the first summer with
them.

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Please tell me this.
Is one of those moments where

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people listen to be like so
naive.

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Well, my point is I went to
London, my cousin was down

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visiting, so me and him went to
London the other day and almost

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every opportunity I was like, I
just can't wait for Rory to be

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older because I could bring him
to this, you know, optical

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illusion museum, he'd love it.
Or we went into Hamleys, just

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see if we get my toy.
And I was like, oh, just nice.

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When he's like 3456, he's going
to love it here.

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It's going to be like all these
things unlock because at the

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minute he's just, he could
barely like pay attention to the

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Gruffalo for more than 3 pages.
So it's just not a point where I

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can take him out to do stuff.
And all it is at the minute is

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just can you just keep him
alive?

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And also can you pick him up
every time he rapidly sprints

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off crawling into somewhere
where he shouldn't be?

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Wait a minute, I've got 7 lovely
toys my parents talk out for me.

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Or I could go and head butt the
radiator.

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Yeah, and I tell you what, that
plug looks real juicy for my

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fingers.
I think instead of my clicky

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toy, I'm gonna click the on off
switch on that little plug over

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there behind this over.
No.

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Oh my God, it's relentless.
It's mad, isn't?

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It yeah, I've always thought
that like cuddly toys, right.

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I just that's just a staple
thing for babies and kids, isn't

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it?
So like we've got bought loads

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when she was little.
She honest to God, so far has

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not been interested in them.
I put at one time I made a ring

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of cuddly toys around thinking,
oh, this would be nice.

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She would like go and play with
one.

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She literally just moved them
out the way it went straight to

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the rad again.
Don't worry about the rad

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because she wants to play with
the Valve and I was like these

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toys here, these little cute
little rabbits and stuff like

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what?
What's wrong with?

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You they should sell model
radiators at toy shops, Yeah,

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just so the kids and then then
maybe then they won't like it

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because they've been bought
specifically for them.

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I was a toy, now I.
Always remember a baby group and

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they were like, they, they,
they're not clever enough yet.

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They can't manipulate you.
They don't they don't, they're

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not going for you.
They just do stuff because

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they're babies.
They're going for you.

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They're going for me.
When, when I layout 10 toys

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like, oh, I spent to combine
£250 on what's on this little

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map, which was also 100 LB of
this website that someone said

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was really good for babies.
Why don't you crawl off it as

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quickly as you can, out of the
door into the part that's not

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flawed.
In our house, there's no floor.

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It's dirty.
And and he becomes transfixed by

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this little bit of black fluff.
If there's any black little bit

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of fluff or rubbish or anything
on the floor, he whizzes to it

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and he just starts, like,
stroking it with his finger.

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Is it to say, look, Dad, look
what I found?

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Yeah.
Have you done that?

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I'm not supposed to be here AM?
I, I know in the matter of time

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just to pick him up, turn him
around and he's like, I want to

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go where I'm not supposed to go,
Macarie.

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Anyway, there you guys love
baby.

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Love them though.
Love them, love them as you can

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tell.
Got it at the end, yeah.

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You do, you have to say now, but
I think people don't think it.

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No, no, we do.
We do love them, but hilarious.

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Anything else happened recently?
No.

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I think Blue sky was gonna talk
briefly.

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I'm on blue sky.
I set up blue skies like a teach

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the repeat thing.
So that'd be a nice way to, you

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know, get a podcast of this, get
out.

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And I was like, because Hayden
does absolutely nothing in terms

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of the socials.
Obviously that's nice.

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Just move the camera more onto
him.

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And so I'm out of shock now, so.
No, no, I wasn't fully out of

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shock.
Brilliant.

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That's how we wanted it.
A bit like.

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Blue skies.
I was trying to do it subtly and

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you've made a big point of it
now.

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Well, started blue skies like a
joint account yeah put like the

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podcast cover as the display
picture TC repeating Dylan and

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Hayden.
I was like gorgeous, both of us

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and I got like I got 2 posts in
and I was like Hayden's never

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going to log into it.
So I just thought, you know what

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I'm going to do a personal blue
sky account.

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It's going to set up just me,
get rid of the dead weight, just

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call it THT repeat but have my
name there as.

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Well, you've got you and
Alastair Campbell, You're hoping

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still.
Exactly that.

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So we've got Blue Sky now and
basically we never got into

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Twitter.
We never ever got into Twitter.

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And this whole thing of Edu
Twitter and it seemed like

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Marmite.
I don't know.

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There's some people who seem
really sad that Twitter's dying

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for obvious reasons, won't go
into, but Twitter's like just

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fallen off a Cliff.
Some people seem really sad

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about that because they've
obviously built up a community.

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They've got a lot of people,
yeah, followers and, and just

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people they've bonded with.
And there was like a safe space

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for them to talk about books and
get excited about things.

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And it's just been this big
exodus over to Blue Sky.

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But I never really got into
Twitter.

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I I felt like sometimes it was a
bit clicky, a little bit, a

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little bit so hard to kind of
get your foot in the door if

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you're not already there kind of
thing not already established.

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Smaller voices were kind of not
pushed out, but the big voices

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were amplified, Yeah.
Because it was around for a long

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time.
Yeah, of course.

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And the people with historic,
you know, followings and stuff

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and just just, it felt like
their opinions had more weight

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and you couldn't really, you
know, I'm not not trying to take

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over the website, but you just
want to put your point across

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and have discussions with
people.

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I find it hard to do that.
Yeah.

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Anyway, we're on Blue Sky now
and I don't know if it's the

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algorithm.
I don't know if it's people

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that's attitudes.
I don't know if it's the type of

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people who've left and come over
to Blue Sky, but it feels way

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more collaborative, way more
open.

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I've spoken to people.
I've never spoken to before.

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There might even be some people
listening now who've literally

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listened to the podcast.
We've not posted two weeks, 2-3

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weeks, but we've had like that
listens every single day as if

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we've been posting in an
episode.

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So there's obviously new people
out there.

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So grateful if you come along.
But I just felt like I could

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post a question about education
or homework or whatever it might

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be and I'd have 15 other fellow
teachers just give me their

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opinion.
And it was really nice to not

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just be in the echo Chamber of
me and you, because we think

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very similarly I'm.
Gonna stay in the echo chamber.

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Just saying that I can't wait to
not go on Blue Sky.

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I'm staying right here.
I'm here for you guys.

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Listen, I'm committed to you,
the podcast viewers.

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I don't do anything outside of
this podcast.

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I only speak here.
You get raw opinions.

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Yeah, absolutely.
The only place where you can't

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possibly anyone talk back to
you.

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It's where you're comfortable.
I don't know, Mr Talkback.

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That's why I'm here to keep you
accountable.

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But yeah, anyway, Blue sky, big
shout out for Blue Sky.

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We're on there.
Teach sleet, repeat.

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That's it.
We didn't need to do anything

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else because it was like new.
So teach sleet, repeat.

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So another handle.
Hey, but at least we've got at

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least we've got the handle.
This Yeah, I know, I know right.

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But there is 17 handles on all
the different things.

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I don't, I don't think one.
Handle the same Teach Sleet

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Repeat, Teach Sleet repeat pod
and we've got Teach Sleet repeat

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podcast.
Good, good.

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Just teach, sleet, repeat and
hope for the best wherever you

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get your stuff from.
But yeah, anyway, I've been

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really enjoying it.
I've been posting on now I'm

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going to post about this and
yeah, if you're you're listening

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from Blue Sky, let me know.
Let me in.

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Blue Sky and Hayden won't see
it, but I will.

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No.
Yeah.

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Nice.
Nice.

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Yeah, That's good.
It's funny, I zoned out while

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you were talking because all I
was thinking about was how I'm

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saving the.
I just can't stop thinking

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about.
It this is the last people we

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get in, right?
Can't stop thinking about it.

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Hayden, I know what you're going
to say.

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Oh, do you?
What is it?

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Go on.
Look.

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What have you done?
Dylan, I mean, you guys probably

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understand Dylan doesn't get it,
but I've recently sold both,

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well, both our cars, me and
Lauren.

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Would you both your massive gas
guzzling cars that you've only

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got were?
Destroying the planet?

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Sold them.
Sold them was it?

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The ones where you both have
your own car but go to the same

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place of work But Dr separately
because you need 10 minutes

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apart.
So double up, doubling the

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impact of the environment.
Is irrelevant, right?

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OK, But the point is, I sold
both cars.

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We went electric.
We're electric cars because I

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looked at you actually, and I
thought that man is really

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destroying this planet for his
own benefit and is really

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selfish.
So we thought let's not be like

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him.
And so thank you for being the

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catalyst to our thoughts.
But we've got electric cars now.

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Catalyst.
Catalyst Converter.

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Yeah, thanks for being that.
So I drive electric cars now

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only and I don't bring it up.
I'm not going up all time, but I

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just, you know, just think about
the planet next time you drive

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around in your big car, all
right?

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Just think just.
Think about it.

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Winds me up, winds me up because
we all know it's important to

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look after the planet.
But you now you do have a high

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horse to be on now because
electric cars are obviously

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better.
Not the battery, no, it doesn't

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matter.
But the battery goes at the end.

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Doesn't matter.
What matters is whilst I'm

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driving.
It it's that big massive toxic

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battery which can't be recycled,
then at the end just goes into a

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landfill, Yeah.
Goes into, goes back to Mother

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Nature.
You're taking this seriously.

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How often do you water your
grass in your garden?

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Just a lot more now there's a
massive battery buried in it,

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because the first one's already.
I posted something about air con

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and just to just to be straight
to everyone listening.

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We are, we obvious, we know
climate change is a thing.

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We're not climate change deniers
or anything like that.

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And it's really important to be
eco and green and stuff like

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that.
I get it.

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I posted something that said
when are we going to concede the

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fact that in the UK we do
actually need air con and a lot

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of other things because and,
and, and the classic points

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people replied, they were
laughing like, yeah, sure.

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There were people replying, oh,
when it's more than three days a

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year.
And I was like, well, it is more

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than three days a year now,
isn't it?

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Because it was like 2 1/2 weeks
in a row.

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But I get it.
It's it's not enough to justify

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a big AC unit and.
It's on the, it's on the edge.

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It's getting there.
Yeah.

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It's going to get there at some
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And then someone, some people
just replied really seriously,

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like almost annoyed at me for
suggesting it.

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Like, do you realise that
running an AC unit is what is

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for the environment?
Anything else?

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OK, I'd reply quarterly be
going.

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That's a really good point.
I guess so, but but like, at

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what point do you just have to
be like, Oh, I know, but like

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until there's green energy
that's cheap for me, I'm going

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to have to do stuff like this.
Like it's AI know it's a self

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perpetuating cycle, but I don't
think average Joe is the person

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who's going to be the person to
change everything.

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So yeah.
Oh yeah, sorry.

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I won't ever do that.
I'll just live in horrible heat.

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Did Taylor Swift just do an 18
minute jet private jet ride?

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She did the 19th time this
month.

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Yeah, yeah.
That's fine though.

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That's fine.
There's just so many other

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people and corporations and big
things to go after.

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I find that I was about to take
the make out of you, but I just

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want to jump in because I feel
the same, you know?

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I do.
But I find that really, really,

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really, really hit hard when
it's the little personal choices

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that are maybe bad for anything.
I'm always like, oh, but there

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is just a corporation out there
producing my lifetime's worth of

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waste in any category in an hour
and I just can't get over.

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And I know every little bit
helps, but it's so hard to think

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like I should.
I'm going to suffer in the heat

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now rather than but or just
contribute this miniscule tiny

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amount.
It's horrible.

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Battle has to come from top
down.

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I think there needs to be things
in place like clean energy and

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things from the top down, like a
big massive scale.

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Well, electric cars are
literally twice the price some

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normal cars.
Of course, average Joe is not

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going to do it.
You did it because you're

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stupid.
But I'm joking.

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I did it because the price.
Yeah, I'm joking.

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Like after a year and a half,
you're like all electric cars.

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Their prices come down really
quickly.

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It's like, yeah, that's only
because they're inflated at the

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start.
It's probably roughly what it

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should cost.
I'll tell you why they come down

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massively because I've realised
now, now I'm in the game, it's

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because they're getting rid of
all of the benefits for people

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of buying electric cars.
It's not as.

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It's going backwards, isn't it?
Yeah, it's a big part was no Rd

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tax, right?
Yeah, no Rd tax and like all EU

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less stuff, it was all free for
that.

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And from next year, all of
that's coming back in place and

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it's completely not even like
discounted, it's just level with

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petrol.
So what is what is the incentive

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to go well?
There isn't an incentive

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anymore.
There used to be an incentive in

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terms of they used to pay for
the box that you put on your

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wall.
Well, like there was a big grant

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anyway.
And the tax and stuff.

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Yeah, and the tax?
All of that's gone now.

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So why?
Why though?

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Like I don't understand I.
Don't know.

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I I think probably just money
isn't it.

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They just need more money back.
But I guess enough people.

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Are driving.
Why?

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Why is it now?
Why is it the green things that

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are rolling back?
It's annoying, isn't it?

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Oh, it's 'cause they didn't
really matter.

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We care in the 1st place did.
They didn't really care about,

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Green did.
They a lot of people do.

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Lots of people do sales.
Oh, no, no, no.

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Yeah, the companies don't care,
but a lot of people do.

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Yeah, people.
Do that's what I mean I.

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Mean the government really cared
when they did this no but

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there's now enough people are
driving electric cars they're

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not making enough in Rd tax
they're like oh actually.

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You need the road tax.
Yeah, don't care about green, we

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just want Rd tax.
Now got to go all electric cars,

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got to go all in.
Anyway, we've been chatting a

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lot.
It's been a nice little catch up

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That's quite random.
Should we get into actually why

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people are here?
15 minutes.

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Instead so so yeah, all.
Right.

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Play the Jingle, Hayden.
Tell you one thing we've never

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done.
Please.

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How to get ready for September
in the podcast.

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Never done that.
Please.

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Don't rewind 12 months.
Nope, Don't rewind, rewind

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rewind rewind this podcast.
Is that when you have an orange

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you don't want anymore?
Rewrite.

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That was quick.
Well done.

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Thank you.
I appreciate.

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That I've got some orange
downstairs.

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Actually, I've got a juicer.
So if you know that again,

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better for the planet, isn't it
just juicing my own oranges?

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I'm not paying a big corporation
factories, batteries, don't

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worry about.
It what would be better for the

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planet is if you didn't have
eight oranges every time you

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want a drink.
That wouldn't be better.

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A bit of a waste.
Anyway, we're here talking about

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September because I don't know
if you realise guys, but as of

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this, as of this podcast being
released, it's the end of

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August, which means if you're in
the UK, you're about to go back

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to school.
So we get loads of messages and

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a lot of them are from ECTS,
people who just finished

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training or are training getting
their first jobs and they've

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asked specifically can I ask
some tips Yeah, as an ECT,

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obviously, but as as September,
I don't know what you mean

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they've asked specifically.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, me yeah,

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not you because you're not on
any other stuff but they want

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some tips for September and I
thought do you want to be really

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cool Let's just do a generic
episode.

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Anyone in teaching, whether
they've been doing it for 20

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years, five years, or this is
their first ever year, they can

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find it useful.
Just to go over some of the key

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things and how you can hit the
ground running in September and

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have a really successful start
to the year.

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Because I would go so far to say
that that first month is

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probably the most important
month in embedding routines, you

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know, establishing relationships
and getting teaching started

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really early.
So let's let's talk about it.

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Let's get into how we can start
September off really well.

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And a big one that I'm really
passionate about and I know

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you've spoken a lot in the past,
but how you've developed in this

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area is behaviour and, and some
of the myths around behaviour in

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September and how to kind of
bust them.

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And as a realistic teacher, you
and I, we don't go away and do

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our own research.
We don't read loads, we read

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bits of CPD and stuff.
But as just a, you know, a

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teacher in a school,
experienced, experienced, done

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it for a long time.
How would you approach behaviour

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in September?
How can we hit the ground

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running and?
Start do it right.

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Is that out?
That's the first.

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There you go.
No, I just, I saw you smirk

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because I know you were thinking
what I was thinking.

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Don't smile to a Christmas.
Yeah, I think, I think you just,

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first of all, I'd ignore that
advice, but we can draw our

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guests from it.
What people mean, which is get

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get your behaviour management
right at the start of the year.

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That's what really what they
mean, isn't it?

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When they say that sort of
stuff, they're saying don't go

452
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,840
too easy on them and let them
walk all over you because then

453
00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,440
they'll just do that all year.
Because I'll realise that's who

454
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,120
you are.
When at the start of the year,

455
00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:35,560
when those children are first
meeting you and they're first

456
00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,600
getting to know you, they will
be making this perception of you

457
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,960
in their head and judging
basically what they can get away

458
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,480
with, what they can't get away
because they're kids.

459
00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,400
They obviously, obviously just
want to have fun all the time.

460
00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,920
So if you don't establish
really, really, really good

461
00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,920
routines in the classroom, rules
that for their behaviour

462
00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,600
specifically in mind, then yeah,
I feel like they just run rings

463
00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,600
around you.
And I was there.

464
00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,960
I spent the first couple of
years of my career, you

465
00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:59,000
remember, where I was just way,
way, way too friendly and I

466
00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,200
didn't want to upset anyone.
And I wanted the kids to like me

467
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,960
so badly.
I needed them to like me because

468
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,360
I want them to go home, be like
Mr Steve is.

469
00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:06,760
He's so cool.
He's my favourite teacher.

470
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,480
And that was the most important
thing ever.

471
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,040
But actually what what it meant
was the behaviour in my class

472
00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:14,840
wasn't very good and therefore
the learning outcomes weren't

473
00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,400
very good and it all just kind
of trickled down from there.

474
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,960
So behaviour get it right.
I think you're right.

475
00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,240
It's the big words.
I always think about a route.

476
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,960
The routine comes to mind
straight away, and structure.

477
00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,720
They're the two things where I
think you're in charge of the

478
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,320
classroom.
You see, you see yourself as the

479
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,960
manager of the classroom as well
as a teacher.

480
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,040
You're going to do all of the
learning stuff.

481
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,040
Think of that as a side that's
going to come because you've

482
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,840
you've trained or you've been
doing the job for 10 years.

483
00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:41,560
You know, the curriculum, you've
done your planning.

484
00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,760
We'll talk about that later.
When it comes to behaviour,

485
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,640
structure is so unbelievably
important for children.

486
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,920
It's insane.
And like we said, always back up

487
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,240
what you're saying.
Don't give false promises or

488
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,200
false, you know, hope to the
children.

489
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,360
They can get a way of doing
something.

490
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,000
That's what they mean when they
say don't smile until until

491
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000
September.
What they what they mean is, you

492
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,400
know, yeah.
Smart day one.

493
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,120
Like a smile now, kids.
My mantra?

494
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,440
Spend the whole some holidays
miserable smart until the kids

495
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,360
are.
But that's what they mean.

496
00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:14,040
They mean yeah, when when you
think of smiling, they they're

497
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,160
saying don't budget.
You know, if you're smiling,

498
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,760
you're you're laid back, you're
open, you're budging on what

499
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,480
you've sat.
You can smile and be really

500
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,240
strict with your where your line
is your children.

501
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,120
And I think routine.
I recommend that.

502
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,440
Yeah, it'll come completely like
if build relationships with your

503
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,800
kids as quickly as possible.
They need to know that you like

504
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,840
them.
And that's insane, I think,

505
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,080
because some people will hear
that and go, what are you

506
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,360
talking about?
You're not their friend.

507
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,160
And I see people getting annoyed
saying like you're you're their

508
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,840
teacher, not their friend.
Yeah, I completely agree with

509
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,600
you.
But I don't have to be friendly

510
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,560
to be nice.
I don't have to be someone's

511
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,920
best pal going to their birthday
party at jungle gyms.

512
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,400
Yeah.
To to be nice and friendly.

513
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:53,760
Yeah.
I'm gonna make sure when the

514
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,640
kids walk into my classroom,
they can smile at me and I'll

515
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,560
smile back.
Yeah.

516
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,080
Can you imagine some, you know,
inexperienced teacher coming

517
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,520
into the classroom?
First day this kids buzzing

518
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,360
comes in.
Oh my God, we've got Miss Jones.

519
00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:05,600
It's her first.
She's really young.

520
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,960
She's cool.
Oh my gosh, I'm really excited.

521
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,080
I seen her training last year.
Apparently she's really nice

522
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,160
because you were yourself in
your training year.

523
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,920
They walk in, give you a big
smile and you're there deadpan

524
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,240
staring at them because someone
said to you, don't smile until

525
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,520
Christmas.
That kids going.

526
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,720
To be put off straight away,
smile, be friendly, be lovely,

527
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,680
but have really strict routines.
What kind of what we talking

528
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,320
about when we say have routines
and structure?

529
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,520
What do what do you take from
that as a teacher?

530
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,880
When we're saying to them, you
know, have this, I can imagine

531
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,240
there's a new you teach you like
what do you mean?

532
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,360
Okay, well, routines is supposed
a little bit different, but

533
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:38,600
routines, I mean literally just
them knowing even down like

534
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,000
visual timetable.
I know that's more like the

535
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,360
structure of the day, but just
them knowing precisely how you

536
00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:45,920
like things done, even if it's
like how to leave the classroom.

537
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,800
Yeah, sure.
So little routines like that

538
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,640
don't leave them up in the air
and and you don't have to have

539
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,400
them already on day one.
You don't have to be panicking

540
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,800
about it.
But I think you should have in

541
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,000
mind the idea that anything
where you feel like it's not

542
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,080
very well routined as the year
goes on as well, you could be

543
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,680
like just squash it quick, get
it in there quick.

544
00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:02,600
You notice on day two that that
when we say, right, let's line

545
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,080
up to go home, that the kids are
a nightmare and maybe they've

546
00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:06,760
got they're just, you know,
they're just all over the place.

547
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,720
They start messing around you,
you just stop immediately.

548
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,920
Well, everyone sit back down.
That's not that is not good

549
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,840
enough.
We need to come up with a

550
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,080
routine right now.
Let's work on it together and

551
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,160
have those little things in
place that you build up over

552
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,960
time.
I like the idea of building up

553
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,720
on it.
That's really cool.

554
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,760
I think that's good, especially
for more experienced teachers.

555
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,880
Just you don't need to solve it
from day one.

556
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,240
Pick something and be consistent
like you said with the lining

557
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,360
up.
If you on day one, let's say

558
00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:31,200
they're lining up awfully and
you go right, I'm going to pick

559
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,320
up on this right now it's day
one.

560
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,800
It's a really solid routines,
guys.

561
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,920
When we line up, we do not talk
and we line one behind the other

562
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,760
and I dismiss you a table at a
time to line up.

563
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,320
Tomorrow, do that, Wednesday, do
that, Thursday, do that.

564
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,040
Don't do it for two days, then
stop.

565
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:48,440
That's not a routine.
Then that's not a habit for the

566
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,960
children.
I had one, a few classes

567
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,120
actually over the years.
They're all different, but one

568
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,240
class was so messy.
Oh my God, like every day at the

569
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,480
end of the day, all of their
stuff would just be on the floor

570
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,440
and I just couldn't comprehend
how like everything on the

571
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,120
floor.
But they really like they

572
00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:06,480
weren't conscious of it and they
were, they were honestly such a

573
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,360
nice class.
So I'm not, I don't want to get

574
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:09,880
angry at them and like get
really cross because they were

575
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,000
so lovely.
They just really were unaware of

576
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,720
the mess they're making.
So we just got into a routine.

577
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,360
I picked up on it quite quickly
where it was like, OK, the end

578
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,440
of every single day.
The last bit of our routine was

579
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,880
we do a table check and a floor
check and, and the, and the

580
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,040
basically it was just stupid
little things like the first

581
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,240
table ready, the neatest table
or the neatest floor.

582
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,760
They just got to line up first
for lunch, which was great.

583
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,880
And for those little things,
yeah, like for me, I'm like, who

584
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,080
cares?
You're going to go to lunch

585
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,680
anyway.
But they love that they want to

586
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,160
be at the front of the line.
And we just got into that

587
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,000
routine and by the end of the
year they were completely like

588
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,360
subliminally just always
checking the tables and checking

589
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:44,480
the floors and it was nice.
And that came from you being

590
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,640
consistent as.
Consistent.

591
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,000
Yeah.
And if I wasn't consistent, it

592
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,560
would have slipped.
If I if I stopped doing that

593
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,560
after a week, that's not enough
time to embed into their minds.

594
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,720
This almost like a response.
Isn't that they?

595
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,640
They know that that they trigger
at the end of the lessons.

596
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,560
Like, Oh yeah, Mrs Stevens
always cheques the floor and

597
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000
table, so let's just do it
rather than waiting for him.

598
00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,800
And, and those routines don't
have to just be on them.

599
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,400
External stuff like that, that's
like away from learning almost,

600
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,000
isn't it?
Like behaviours lining up?

601
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,080
You can put those routines and
embed those expectations into

602
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,800
your lessons as well.
Some of the best feedback I got

603
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,440
that I was really proud of from
a lesson observation was I was

604
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,400
in, I think it was a science
lesson in the afternoon, but it

605
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,240
was, I think after Easter.
So we had a really big chunk of

606
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,520
the year where a lot of those
expectations and routines had

607
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,920
really been embedded.
And I always look forward to

608
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,400
observations to kind of show
people what the kids can do

609
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,800
because they're so used to it.
And a big part of the lesson was

610
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,520
we do maybe some starter stuff.
We start off with some, maybe

611
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,960
they'll do some quiet reading or
some handwriting or sometimes

612
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320
tables, or maybe they'll do a
question from last lesson, a bit

613
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,320
of a recap, whatever it was.
And then the next slide on the

614
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,080
screen was their date and their
object learning objective.

615
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,760
And I remember so vividly
because I got to the point of my

616
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,680
class where I could click next
that would come onto the screen

617
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,360
and I didn't say anything and
the class went silent and all

618
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,040
started doing a date and a
learning objective.

619
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,200
Because that didn't happen in
September.

620
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,040
That didn't even really happen
in October or November.

621
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,000
That took a long time of saying,
you know, putting on and saying

622
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,840
right when this comes up we do I
don't know what silently if you

623
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,400
finish, you do your extra work
and then the next time it might

624
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,440
be okay date and what?
And then over time eventually

625
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,240
it's just next one.
And if someones talking, what do

626
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,760
we do when this side is on and
we do the day and what?

627
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,040
Yeah, correct.
And that constant embedding

628
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,120
meant that by Easter, click it
on 32 children silently doing

629
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:31,280
the date, doing the doing the
start of questions meant I could

630
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,880
go over to a group of children
and recap some stuff or catch up

631
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,400
with the kids who are absent.
That, that those things are so

632
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,400
powerful, I think, and I know
they're hard, like you made it

633
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,000
sound really easy.
They are hard to do because it's

634
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,240
easy to forget because you're
also doing a million other

635
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,280
things in a day.
So the little things are easy to

636
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,520
forget and.
That's why building up is really

637
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,400
good.
Yeah, because.

638
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,040
Cool.
We've established the class now

639
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,560
for a couple of weeks.
This is how we line up and move

640
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,160
around the class.
I know for a fact there's two

641
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,720
other things that are bugging
me, but you know what?

642
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,080
I'm going to focus on this for
now and I know that my work is

643
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,880
never done as a teacher and if
by September all my routines

644
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,520
aren't fully established in
exactly how I want, especially

645
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960
as an inexperienced teacher,
don't beat yourself up, you've

646
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,560
got time to still do it.
Yeah, and write them down.

647
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,280
If you notice something you
think I'd like to change this,

648
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,600
just write it down.
You forget otherwise.

649
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,040
If you like me anyway, but like
another one might be.

650
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:12,600
So.
Yeah.

651
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,640
So you've got them all lining up
now, happy with that.

652
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,240
You've got them right in their
date and Walt.

653
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,040
And then.
And then actually, you get to

654
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,840
the part in the lesson where
you're maybe, I don't know,

655
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,520
you're working with someone at a
different table.

656
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,880
And the kids get up from other
parts of the class and they walk

657
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,800
over to you and they and they
go, they tap you.

658
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,080
Mr. Price, can you?
And you're thinking, oh, that's,

659
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,120
that's an annoying behaviour and
they're trying to be nice.

660
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:33,440
I'm not going to shout, I'm not
going to cross.

661
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,880
But I'm going to think of a way
now to establish a new routine

662
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,840
that stops children getting up
out of their seat randomly in

663
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,800
the lesson, rather than just
putting their hand up and

664
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,320
waiting.
What might be your team for

665
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,520
that?
For someone listening right now,

666
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,280
If you used to stop them getting
out of their seat, what might

667
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,480
you teach them to do instead?
Or yeah, sure.

668
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,440
So I first of all, I'd address
the whole class.

669
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,040
I wouldn't just address that
like one kid, I'd address the

670
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,560
whole class.
I'd make some time for it.

671
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,480
I'd actually dedicate some time
in the lesson to really just go

672
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,320
over almost like the meta level
of like, this is what I like as

673
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,760
a teacher, and This is why I
like it.

674
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,480
It's gonna help you learn.
From now on, you cannot get out

675
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,080
of your seat.
Don't be afraid to explain it.

676
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,720
Yeah, I always explain it to
them.

677
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,640
I remember being a kid in school
thinking, why?

678
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,720
Yeah.
The why kid and.

679
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,120
Why though?
Why do I have to do that?

680
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,320
Yeah, why do I have to?
I don't understand, and if it's

681
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,000
really powerful to explain why
being absolutely.

682
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Right, yeah, I agree.
It's one of those fine lines,

683
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,040
isn't it, between a kid being
rude?

684
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:22,120
Why?
Because you've actually told

685
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:23,160
them to do something really
obviously.

686
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,080
If you proactively explain.
Something don't Chuck the toilet

687
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,000
roll into the toilet.
Why?

688
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840
Yeah, then I'd be annoyed.
Yeah, at this point, just don't

689
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,240
do that.
Yeah, because also I think you

690
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,840
know why.
But if it exactly but there's

691
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,360
something fairly innocent in
their minds of.

692
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,800
I want help from the teacher.
So I went to the teacher to get

693
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,200
help and they say and you say,
oh, don't do that.

694
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,800
Imagine that.
Yeah.

695
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,920
And then you don't tell me,
don't answer me back, that that

696
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,200
situation is wrong, because it's
like they are genuinely just

697
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,640
unsure.
You're teaching them not to ask

698
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,000
you for.
Help.

699
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,200
Yeah, why they couldn't get
help.

700
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,040
So, yeah, just establish a new
routine, explain what's right.

701
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,320
Be silly with it.
Because kids remember funny

702
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,680
things.
So play a little game, like get

703
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,520
one of the kids role-playing
where they get up and and.

704
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,560
And you just ignore them and
everyone's laughing and then

705
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,280
someone else puts hands up and
you go straight to them.

706
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,320
And this kids following you
around, like make a silly little

707
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,240
game out of it where they'll
remember, oh, us getting up, we

708
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,560
like that.
That's not how we get the

709
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,480
attention of the teacher.
That backfire when everyone gets

710
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,240
up because I think it's.
Funny.

711
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It might do for a little bit,

712
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,360
but.
No, you're right, you're right.

713
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:14,560
You've got to create a hook for
them.

714
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,000
Create a hook for them to
remember something.

715
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,440
If you just say don't do this
anymore and carry on doing what

716
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,840
you're doing, I promise you
they'll forget.

717
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,600
You've got to really establish
an embed routine, so.

718
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,880
In September's there's time to
start that and don't be afraid

719
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,240
to start it immediately and
again, maybe we can finish on

720
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,400
behaviour for this.
One of the best bits of advice I

721
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,880
remember receiving early in my
career and it's been like

722
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,640
throughout a number of people
have said this, so it's really

723
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:40,240
important is do not be afraid to
cut down lesson time to teach

724
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,000
routines and expectations and
behaviour.

725
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,120
Look at behaviour the same way
you look at maths, same way you

726
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,720
look at English, same way you
look at the curriculum.

727
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,240
Because if children aren't,
don't have their learning

728
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,720
behaviours established, it's OK
to spend 20 minutes teaching

729
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,600
learning behaviours multiple
times and, and modelling it.

730
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,920
And, and the same way I teach
children how to do exchanging

731
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,560
when I did.
Adding I'm going to teach

732
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,080
children how to actually ask
their partner for help or the

733
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,040
order before they just stand up
and think they can walk to the

734
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,560
front of the class.
So I'm going to teach them how

735
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,520
to do it.
I'm going to teach them how to

736
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,560
be good partners.
I'm going to teach them why it's

737
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,000
important to focus on certain
thing at a time.

738
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,800
I'm going to teach them if
they're really struggling with

739
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,120
something, what they can do to
help themselves rather than me

740
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,840
just getting annoyed at them for
looking out the window.

741
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,320
Yeah, that's just a it's an
adjustment.

742
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,880
It's Yeah, it's not.
You're on a pelting.

743
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Time at the start of the year,
so the rest of the year is

744
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,320
really smooth rather than the,
you know, on that small level.

745
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,920
I think, you know, I can't
because I, you know, you're

746
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,960
putting out fires all year and
actually ironically wasting more

747
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,800
time in the long run.
Just do you have any?

748
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,200
Because I feel like routine is a
really good point.

749
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,960
So I'm happy to keep talking
about, but do you have any like

750
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,200
route like tips on like toilets?
Because that's a that's a big

751
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,680
one.
Like kids want to go to the

752
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,600
toilet.
Obviously people need to go to

753
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,800
the toilet.
So I'm not one of those teachers

754
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,800
that's like, Nope, you simply
can't ever go to the toilet in

755
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,560
the middle of my lesson.
Do you have any advice on how to

756
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,240
manage kids needing to go to
the?

757
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,600
Toilet.
I think that I don't from what

758
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,120
from my experience of working in
multiple schools and talking to

759
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,080
lots of teachers, there is not
one answer that everyone goes

760
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,400
by.
So I'm not going to sit here and

761
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,520
say you should always let your
kids go all the time.

762
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,560
Because my gut instinct is if
someone needs to go to the

763
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,480
toilet, they can go to the
toilet.

764
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,360
If I need to go to the toilet on
that day, you know, lots of

765
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,000
people say, well, I can't go to
the toilet.

766
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,720
So yeah, you're an adult
teacher.

767
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,560
Like, that's such a bad, that's
such a bad comparison.

768
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,800
Never compare yourself to the
kid.

769
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,200
I just don't think, I think
that's not useful.

770
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,680
I like to let the children go to
the toilet when they need to.

771
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,600
I think there's got to be, you
got to build up trust and you've

772
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,440
got to almost have trust in
someone and then if they erode

773
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,480
that, I think then you come up
some consequences.

774
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,640
But in terms of actually letting
them go to the toilet, I think

775
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,760
you need to be consistent with
your year group colleagues.

776
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,880
What you don't want, especially
in a school where maybe you go

777
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,680
to a different teacher for a
maths group and you go to

778
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,520
another teacher for an English
group and you come back to your

779
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,840
class teacher.
All three having a different

780
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,440
toilet policy is obviously going
to be confusing and annoying for

781
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,600
the.
Children, that's a really good

782
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,520
point.
I think you need to be really

783
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,160
consistent with your year group.
I would talk to SLT and just

784
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,760
establish what the actual rules
are in the school because again,

785
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,960
if if year six have a different
role to year four, it might be

786
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,120
for a reason.
You know, especially young girls

787
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,480
going through changes that that
as they get older in primary

788
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,480
school, they need to be able to
go to the toilet straight away.

789
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,480
There are some children who have
medical needs where they have a

790
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,040
toilet pass, they need to go
straight away.

791
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,880
There are some children who just
need to go to the toilet and you

792
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,640
should let them go.
And there are also some children

793
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,800
who don't need to go to the
toilet.

794
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,800
They just want to get out of
their lesson and they want to

795
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,000
mess around in the toilet or
they want to avoid doing the

796
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,160
work because they don't
understand.

797
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,120
Something or they genuinely just
need a break because they're

798
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,720
anxious or something.
That's the horrible bit, isn't

799
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,880
it?
I remember someone telling me

800
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,040
that years ago they were like,
have you ever considered that

801
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,560
this child is not leaving your
classroom to be naughty?

802
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,600
They're just, they just need a
break and this is the only way

803
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,920
they can.
There's only way they can get

804
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,600
out.
For 30 seconds and you haven't

805
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,760
established a way in your room
where a child in that situation

806
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,280
can deal with it in a different
way They.

807
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Can feel comfortable talking
about it or asking.

808
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,880
About it, so the the toilet
question to me is like A7

809
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,400
pronged question.
I think like if a child needs to

810
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,040
go to the loo just let them go
quickly.

811
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,880
But as teacher you do just pick
up on stuff.

812
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,800
I think we actually what you
it's great you went deeper

813
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,720
actually than I was thinking.
I had a way more surface level

814
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,600
thing in my head of literally
like the routine of how do you

815
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,720
do it in terms of because I find
about you, but I've found over

816
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,720
the years that there is nothing
more frustrating.

817
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,720
To do role play.
Really.

818
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,040
Okay, I'm delivering some really
important part of the lesson

819
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,120
that I think is gonna maybe
spark some questions from the

820
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,560
children.
OK, Wow.

821
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,360
And him with it.
Oh, you've got a question about

822
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,760
him.
Yeah, yeah.

823
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,880
Can I go to the toilet?
Oh no.

824
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,040
Can you?
Just hang on, let me finish this

825
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,120
paragraph.
Let me just finish this

826
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,440
paragraph.
Let me just finish what I'm

827
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,520
saying, and then we'll come back
to you.

828
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,480
Anyone else got a?
Question.

829
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What?

830
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,600
Can I go to the toilet when
they're finished?

831
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,000
OK, right.
Let's just then I always find

832
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
myself in that situation where
I'm saying to the children,

833
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,960
right, we need to establish some
sort of routine where that

834
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,840
you're not just putting your
hand up and like doing this in

835
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,040
the middle of me delivering like
some important piece of

836
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,960
information for your.
Lesson.

837
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Well OK, I'll come on to that
straight away.

838
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,800
Toilet passes.
If there are children who

839
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,920
medically need a toilet pass,
yeah, they have a printed off

840
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,160
coloured card, Yep, that they
keep and they just hold up.

841
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,240
No discussion.
I just nod and they can go off

842
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,960
to the toilet.
Yep, doesn't remotely interrupt

843
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,000
the class whatsoever.
Something I don't do anymore

844
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,160
that I used to do what I thought
was really good advice.

845
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,360
Maybe I'll start doing it again.
It is just like a coded, coded

846
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,240
system.
So like if hands up, obviously

847
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,920
if you do hands up, that can be
to answer a question.

848
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,680
But if they need to go to the
toilet, maybe they'll put two

849
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,120
fingers up crossed or something.
Yeah, yeah.

850
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,040
And then and then you know,
that's the symbol for saying,

851
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,600
well, I'm not going to answer
get them to answer the question

852
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,680
because I know they need the
toilet.

853
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,080
You might not straight away save
them.

854
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,640
Yes, you might say one second
and then let someone answer and

855
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,120
then when there's a natural
lull, just look at them and nod.

856
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,080
Then you can control it as the
teacher.

857
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,760
So you've got again look, it
comes back to teaching your kids

858
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,960
routines.
Don't be annoyed at stuff when 8

859
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,800
year olds don't do something
that in your head you want them

860
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,320
to do.
Yeah, if you've not put any

861
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,640
effort into the making them do
it.

862
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,840
Yeah.
So, you know, if you're like,

863
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,680
oh, for God's sake, why did the
kids keep asking me to go to the

864
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,800
toilet every time I ask a
question?

865
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,160
OK, well, they're eight.
And if they're doing that, are

866
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,840
you going to just moan at them
and yourself or are you going to

867
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,280
think of a system that you can
embed to stop it happening?

868
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,360
Yeah, because.
They literally just need the

869
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,480
toilet and they're telling you
that's it.

870
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,040
They're already being polite
because they're putting their

871
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,640
hand up and telling you they're
not just walking off.

872
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Right, exactly.
So you've you that annoys you,

873
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,520
You've got to think of a system.
I agree.

874
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,760
And I think that that even just
like the cross fingers is a

875
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,040
really good symbol of like, I
put my hand up, I'm gonna ask

876
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,880
you to go to the toilet and you
know this visually now so you

877
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,440
can.
Build the teacher has control.

878
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,080
I think it's about getting
control.

879
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,560
As much control as you can as
the teacher in any way possible.

880
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,520
That's what this all comes down
to for behaviour in my opinion.

881
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,440
Moving on to a slight different
point, I've got a new thing I'm

882
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,240
trying this year.
Actually.

883
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,000
I say new.
It's something where I've

884
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,600
recognised it in my whole
career.

885
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560
I've just never really I've.
I've never really like embedded

886
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,040
this.
Properly.

887
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,200
Is it how to teach properly?
Yeah.

888
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Are you finally becoming?
How?

889
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,200
I'm finally training.
I've never.

890
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,480
I'm a fraud.
I'm a fraud.

891
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,760
It's something where I was like,
no, because like you said,

892
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,520
September's so important.
It's the time to do it.

893
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,000
I thought about it in term six
last year and I was like, it's

894
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,880
too late.
It's honestly too late.

895
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,200
I've like these kids had me for.
Five years, Six.

896
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,800
I go to a new.
School, it's just not fair as

897
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,560
well for me.
It's just changed but I I think

898
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,120
this is important now you've got
me for five terms.

899
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,720
I've not mentioned it once, but
basically it was starting to

900
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,960
annoy me last year that.
You couldn't teach it, I'm

901
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,680
sorry.
No kids.

902
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,840
Kids putting their hands up in
general when I'm midway.

903
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,400
Through something like saying
something I.

904
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,480
Think you've said this before, I
think you're more like further

905
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,040
down.
The line than me.

906
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,720
So I said on transition day to
this class that I'm getting in

907
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,480
September, I made a real big
point of it and I was like, I'm

908
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,840
going to.
And like, like we've said in

909
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,720
this episode, that is going to
be my thing.

910
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,520
I start with and I'll, I'll
establish other things

911
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,080
afterwards, but I'm going to
start with this, which is I'm

912
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,400
going to make it really clear to
the kids that I think it's rude

913
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,800
that if I'm talking to them all
and it's not just general

914
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,560
whatever, but I'm, you know, mid
delivering a lesson and they put

915
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,480
their hands up to ask a
question.

916
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,400
I've made it clear to them that
if you're doing that, all you're

917
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,520
thinking about is the question
you want to ask.

918
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,840
And you've actually stopped
listening to me.

919
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,000
You're not even listening to
what I'm saying anymore because

920
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,480
you're just thinking, oh, I need
to ask this question.

921
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,159
I'm going to think about my.
Question, so I don't forget my

922
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:36,679
question.
You've just described this

923
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,000
podcast.
I'm just thinking about my.

924
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,080
Question.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're

925
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,719
absolutely.
Right.

926
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,320
And I've just said, I said the
kid, I said the kids, I'm going

927
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,199
to write guys really important
in September that you just wait

928
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:46,520
till there's a natural pause in
what I'm saying.

929
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,320
So when you feel like I've
finished my point, then you can

930
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,199
come in, which is what we're
doing in this podcast all the

931
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:52,440
time.
We wait until the other person

932
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,280
to finish that.
Point you are.

933
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,240
That's so.
True.

934
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:58,760
You've kind of done.
I feel like maybe I even got

935
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,320
this from you.
I don't.

936
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,680
Know this was a huge thing for
me, a huge thing because it's

937
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,280
exactly that.
It's actually more it's it's not

938
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,320
I'm not personally offended that
they want to ask for something

939
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,760
I'll pay through.
It's that I'm in the middle of

940
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,800
probably the most important
point of the lesson of me as a

941
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,200
teacher telling the class the
key information that they need

942
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,920
to be able to get something out
of this lesson.

943
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,120
And someone's got their hand up
and they're asking something

944
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,840
from 2 slides ago or they're
just saying, oh, oh, I love

945
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,200
rocks.
And I read this about rocks.

946
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,560
That's completely different.
And you know for a fact, the

947
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,240
whole time they got their hand
up, all they think is I'm going

948
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,920
to ask this question, I'm going
to ask this question, I'm going

949
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,560
to ask this question.
So I established that with my

950
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960
class.
It didn't really help because

951
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,960
they're so young, like I've
moved year 4, they're quite

952
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,680
young, but it minimised it.
Like there are some children who

953
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,320
they'll just want to get
something out of their system.

954
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,800
Fine, but you come up with a
way.

955
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,920
You say to them, look, next time
this happens, here's a piece of

956
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,600
scrap paper.
Write the question down, keep

957
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,120
your finger on it.
And then when I finished, you

958
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,480
can come back to it.
And that worked for some I.

959
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,440
Was about to say because the
immediate floor I thought of

960
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,000
this was am I just, is it the
same problem but kids aren't

961
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,440
putting their hands up?
Are they just now thinking of

962
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,440
their question, Thinking I'm not
lapping my hand up to the end,

963
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,680
we can still think of my
question.

964
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,280
And that's why you've got to
think of a way to address the

965
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,040
problem rather than either mask
over it or just keep moving the

966
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,720
masking.
Yeah.

967
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:09,920
So that masking is a huge part
of teaching where you kind of,

968
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,080
it feels like you've achieved
something, but really you

969
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,600
haven't.
But that child putting their

970
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,520
hand down now is still thinking,
OK, I'm going to ask them about

971
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,760
igneous rocks.
Igneous rocks at.

972
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,000
The right moment now.
Yeah, exactly.

973
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,200
So two things happened.
Either those kids would carry on

974
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,160
doing that, or when I did it,
some kids would wait and I'd

975
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,160
finish a sentence.
I wouldn't be in the mid, I

976
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,280
wouldn't finish my point.
I'd finish a sentence and they'd

977
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,080
be like, and I'd be like, I've
not finished yet, OK.

978
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,640
And we go down.
All they're doing is thinking

979
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,480
about and they're just so you
know, it's small things like

980
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,880
that you're gonna find
throughout the year that will

981
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,080
constantly happen.
And you know, even if you pick

982
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,760
up on that in October, December,
November, you're like, right,

983
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,080
guys?
I've noticed this thing's been

984
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,680
happening.
It's not actually too late.

985
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,920
I think with yours in Term 6
maybe at that point.

986
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,840
In term six years 6.
OK, you're past that, you know,

987
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,760
whatever.
But I think, I don't think it's

988
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,120
too late for someone to be like,
I've noticed something.

989
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,000
I think it's affecting it in
this way.

990
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000
You can think about this in your
head, but then how can I tell

991
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,920
the kids about this?
OK, kids, you know, it's

992
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,560
affecting your learning.
If you're not listening to me,

993
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,840
deliver something.
But I really value what you want

994
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,920
to say.
I hate the idea of suppressing

995
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,000
questions, especially in the
afternoon when you're doing

996
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,440
something really interesting
like history.

997
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,880
And it's really sparked their
interest.

998
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,880
And there's seven hands go up
and I found myself before

999
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,920
they're going, guys, you need to
not ask questions because I'm in

1000
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,520
the middle of talking.
That's actually really bad.

1001
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,040
Yeah, like that's really bad.
They're.

1002
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,920
So engaged and they're showing
you and you're squashing it.

1003
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,240
Exactly, And you see their faces
go and I hate that.

1004
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,840
So, you know, just embedding
ways, finding ways to get around

1005
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,160
it.
Have post it notes on the table.

1006
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,720
I mean they can grab a post it
note, then put it in front of

1007
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:34,880
them, write it down and then
carry on this.

1008
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,960
And at the end, if you and if
there's loads as a teacher, you

1009
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,640
can be like right, everyone
bringing post it notes to the

1010
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,680
front.
I'll just read off loads of

1011
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,440
them.
Just go through them.

1012
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,960
You know there's ways you can
manage it and.

1013
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,240
Don't be afraid to say you don't
know.

1014
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,640
Just because there is a
situation in reality where you

1015
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,400
do actually have a lesson to get
through exactly, there is a,

1016
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,240
there is almost a minimum point
you need to get through in this

1017
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,200
lesson really.
And if they keep asking

1018
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,720
questions, you actually won't
get through it all.

1019
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,480
And therefore the lesson is even
worse now.

1020
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,800
So that you've got to find a
balance.

1021
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,000
Somewhere and and children, you
know, you do have to teach them

1022
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,240
that you can't ask 10 questions
though, like there are some

1023
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,120
questions where yourself after
you need to go out and find

1024
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,880
something, something someone did
once.

1025
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,680
I remember a colleague of mine,
there was a child who constantly

1026
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,720
asked questions constantly no
matter what you did.

1027
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:12,440
They're just like, yeah, but
what about that?

1028
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,920
So they gave this person three
questions a day, like as tokens

1029
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,600
kind of thing.
Like they were like, listen,

1030
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,520
your questions are great, but
you really need to ask the right

1031
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,280
questions because half the
questions were answered.

1032
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:26,640
So then he really thought about
his questions then.

1033
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,240
And then when he had a question,
he thought, OK, this is this is

1034
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,520
important enough for me to use a
token.

1035
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,240
I'm going to use my question
tokens.

1036
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,880
And for that child that really
worked.

1037
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,440
There's not going to be a
one-size-fits-all.

1038
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,840
Some children, I tell you now
you can say to them we're not

1039
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,040
gonna ask questions in class,
OK.

1040
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,080
And they were like, oh, that's
fine.

1041
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,280
I'll ask you a break time.
Yeah.

1042
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,640
Oh, that's fine.
I'll just find out myself.

1043
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,960
They won't be personally
offended.

1044
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,960
There'll be some children, while
asking a question is the most

1045
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,800
important thing in the world and
they have to go out to the

1046
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,160
chest.
So you need to find a way as the

1047
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,520
teacher and.
There's always someone there's

1048
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,920
always like there's always gonna
be someone who's asking the most

1049
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,560
questions.
Some by definition, someone has

1050
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,000
to be in your class asking the
most questions.

1051
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,080
And I mean, think if you're a
teacher, think about it right

1052
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,320
now, who is that person that
comes to your mind whether this

1053
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,520
year just gone away in the past?
Who's that person who just

1054
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,320
everything you say, they have
their hand up to answer it.

1055
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,320
And it's both great and a little
bit annoying.

1056
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,680
It just is.
So you've got, yeah, you've got

1057
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,560
to manage it with things like
that.

1058
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,520
That's really.
And it's OK to say between

1059
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,120
colleagues and between staff,
this is really annoying me.

1060
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,280
Yeah.
Because then you can actually

1061
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,960
talk to your staff and be like,
OK, well, how can we fix it

1062
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,600
then?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1063
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,440
Because just remember, they are
children.

1064
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,040
They do need to learn stuff.
They need to learn not to do

1065
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,320
stuff sometimes.
And that's OK.

1066
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,200
We need to pander to everything.
But you know, you have to put,

1067
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,600
you have to do an intervention
or to put something in place.

1068
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,840
You can't expect routines to
fall into place or the children

1069
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,160
to behave how you magically
imagined this beautiful.

1070
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,240
Classroom I had a child once
just to finish off on this

1071
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:41,480
point.
I had a child once, very

1072
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,240
similar, put hand up a lot,
really engaged with such a

1073
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,200
lovely kid.
And she was so super into every

1074
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,040
single lesson, right?
Always wanted to ask a question

1075
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,200
and she definitely got like a
higher proportion of of like how

1076
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,600
many things are asked because
she always had a hand up, but

1077
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,520
she'd always get annoyed.
Then if it did get to the point

1078
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,400
where there's eight hands up and
I asked three people and she

1079
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,600
wasn't one of them, she'd be
like.

1080
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,200
She'd actually like have a huff
and get a bit annoyed about it.

1081
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,120
And one time I just, I just
talked to her and I just

1082
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,480
explained, like you said, we
always do.

1083
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,280
I think we're both hot on this.
I just explained to her, I said,

1084
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,440
look, there are 32 children in
this classroom.

1085
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,320
You are all equal.
I really value your questions.

1086
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,320
I said, but how do you think it
would feel to the other children

1087
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,640
if I if you answered 50% of the
questions and the other 31

1088
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,320
children answered the other 50%?
That's so not fair, is it?

1089
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,280
And she was like, yeah, I
suppose so.

1090
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,600
And honestly, from that point
onwards, completely fine with

1091
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,360
yeah, I just needed a bit of
explanation.

1092
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,160
It's like you're not the only
person in the room.

1093
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,320
Yeah, I'm here for all of you.
Not just you.

1094
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,000
That's a really good thing to
learn out of that lesson.

1095
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,480
Honestly, she might have.
She might only remember that.

1096
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,080
Yeah, she might have forgotten
this history fact that you

1097
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,600
talked about, but she remembered
that.

1098
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,200
And then do you know what in the
future?

1099
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,960
It disrupted other children
less.

1100
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,640
She just got on with it.
She wasn't getting annoyed

1101
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,760
anymore.
She got more at the future

1102
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,360
lessons.
There's different ways to get

1103
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,040
stuff out of kids and I think
where as teachers you got

1104
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,320
constantly on the lookout for
that kind.

1105
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,680
Of thing and whilst also not
hurting their feelings and not

1106
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,440
suppressing them like you said.
It doesn't mean you're raising a

1107
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,120
generation of woke snowflakes.
Like, no, we're just taking

1108
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,120
emotion seriously, Right?
And as and as professionals who

1109
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,640
are adults with children, we're
going to look out for them.

1110
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,400
Yeah.
It winds me up so much when

1111
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,920
people like, well, just tell
them no.

1112
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,120
It's like OK for some kids that
would.

1113
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,400
Have been a That would have been
a board rubber chucked at your

1114
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,960
head, Yeah.
Back in your day you had PTSD

1115
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,240
for half the class I'll.
Tell you what, you're still

1116
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,200
talking about that board rubber,
so it probably wasn't a good

1117
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,320
thing.
Exactly.

1118
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,240
To be honest with you, exactly.
You don't remember anything you

1119
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,520
were taught clearly.
So OK, cool.

1120
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,760
So you know, behaviours,
routines, that's a huge chunk.

1121
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,920
I think so.
That's nice.

1122
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,640
I hope that was helpful.
Yeah, I think that was really

1123
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,400
helpful for anyone listening.
So we're going to go through

1124
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,920
some other ones now, maybe a bit
more quickly.

1125
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,080
Classroom environment, hot
topic.

1126
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,640
Yeah.
I mean, we're gonna do what that

1127
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,320
girl did.
I'm like, oh, we have to talk

1128
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,840
about this one, too, But yes, we
do, Hayden.

1129
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,720
Yeah, there's lots of things we
want to talk about today, and

1130
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,720
this is one of them.
OK, so we just need to think how

1131
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,160
online it would be if you were
classroom environment and two

1132
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,720
people doing a podcast didn't
talk about you.

1133
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,560
OK, I get.
It.

1134
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,680
So what do you think about
classroom?

1135
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,960
Environment, I think it's
rubbish.

1136
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,800
No, I think classroom
environment, it's one of those

1137
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,040
things, I mean you we've got the
same.

1138
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Mindset.
We're not the guys to talk

1139
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,680
about.
We're not the guys, but I, I

1140
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,240
also definitely know that if I
don't sort it out in September,

1141
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,200
yeah, I just the whole year goes
by.

1142
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,080
And what do you even mean by
classroom environment?

1143
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,120
Because you've got just displays
working wars like what we

1144
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,960
talking about What?
Okay, strip it back.

1145
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,200
We know for a fact there are
lots of different type of

1146
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,920
teachers.
Some teachers bloody love going

1147
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,280
above and beyond and some
teachers, those teachers make

1148
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,960
amazing spaces.
And I think anyone pretending

1149
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,520
that God, that's rubbish, you're
not.

1150
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,160
No, no, Celebrate it.
Celebrate the above and beyond

1151
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,720
people when they do something
above and beyond.

1152
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:36,280
Yeah, that's great because it's
amazing.

1153
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,560
And those kids have a great
experience.

1154
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,880
You wouldn't do it if they're
above and beyond.

1155
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,720
Bit was them and their ability
to teach English.

1156
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,760
Oh, then going home, reading,
research on how to do English

1157
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,440
better.
Yeah.

1158
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,400
You'd be like, oh, well done.
That's amazing.

1159
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Exactly.
I haven't done that, but like,

1160
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,040
that's brilliant.
Exactly.

1161
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,480
So there's like two kind of
prongs here.

1162
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,360
It's like almost what should be
expected from teachers and what

1163
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,720
do they actually do?
So in terms of hitting the

1164
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,080
ground running in September,
Yeah.

1165
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,640
What would you say is, you know,
the bare minimum that, you know,

1166
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,720
every classroom needs to have?
Because I don't think not.

1167
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:03,960
Soulless cesspits do we bare
minimum.

1168
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,440
If you've got display boards in
there, there needs to be

1169
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,960
something on them like there's a
come on.

1170
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,320
Realistically, there can't just
be bare display boards.

1171
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,760
Well, that would you mean backed
and stuff?

1172
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,680
No, no, I mean like, bit like
not even backed.

1173
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,280
Yeah, You can't just have them
and think, oh, I'll do that

1174
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,760
later in the time, at least back
them and put a nice board around

1175
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,440
them.
Yeah, even though there's

1176
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,200
nothing on it just yet.
And because, you know, in term

1177
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,680
one you're gonna do a topic and
it's gonna go up there,

1178
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,800
whatever, at least just have the
classroom looking inviting and a

1179
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,040
little bit colourful Germany,
rather than just like bare.

1180
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,040
What?
What are they like?

1181
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,800
Cork boards often, aren't they?
Yeah.

1182
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,360
What behind?
Yeah, some people look on

1183
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,480
Perhesi in this book.
Calming.

1184
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,040
There's a lot of research about
calming stuff.

1185
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,760
Like I would say colours aren't
that important personally.

1186
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,160
Like they can be nice and
inviting.

1187
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,880
I don't think children.
Necessarily we use Hessians, I

1188
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,200
said colours as if that's the
thing I do.

1189
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,120
But.
I use Hessians.

1190
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Yeah, exactly.
A lot of people do use that

1191
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,000
calming environment, which they
think is important.

1192
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:51,120
But you know, going above like
making a paper mash a tree in

1193
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,160
your corner, You don't need to
do that.

1194
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,360
Like it's nice.
You don't need to do that to be

1195
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,240
an effective teacher.
You, you made the tree.

1196
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,920
But I don't think classroom
environment in terms of starting

1197
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,760
off strong in September.
Again, I think there's a few

1198
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,480
things you need to do.
Look at your policy.

1199
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,120
What do you think about this?
I wanted to talk about this for

1200
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,880
classroom environment.
There's a few schools at the

1201
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,480
minute who are taking very
literally the advice after the

1202
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,120
school well-being report was
released about what teachers

1203
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,000
should and shouldn't do and this
whole list of things teachers

1204
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,160
shouldn't have to do anymore.
And it was like transferring

1205
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,720
data from one thing to another.
A whole list.

1206
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:26,640
I can't remember one of them was
teachers shouldn't be have to do

1207
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,840
displays.
And, you know, that was

1208
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,040
interpreted by many as, like, as
you walk into the school,

1209
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,360
there's a display in the
hallway.

1210
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But some schools have gone all

1211
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,160
out, and some head teachers have
actually said, no, take all

1212
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,440
displays down in classrooms as
well because teachers don't have

1213
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,000
to do displays anymore.
What do you think about?

1214
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,760
That there's a weird middle
ground that is skipped over,

1215
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,600
which is what I actually think.
So from day one of teaching I've

1216
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,320
always thought, isn't that
mental?

1217
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,400
That we have to do displays
despite already doing 20 hours

1218
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,280
of overtime unpaid a week and
this is on top.

1219
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,840
I've always thought it's
completely completely mental.

1220
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,960
As someone who also doesn't
really like doing that sort of

1221
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,560
stuff, I obviously I justify it
because I don't like it.

1222
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,880
But going all the way to the
level of therefore get rid of

1223
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:11,840
them.
All in your classrooms.

1224
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,640
In your classroom, I don't think
would be my outcome.

1225
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,760
I think I'd probably find a
middle ground of like, OK, let's

1226
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,520
let's employ ATA or something to
be like the display person.

1227
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,760
Well, it's good job.
We've got lots of money in

1228
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,680
schools for that.
Yeah, I know.

1229
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,080
That's why it's obviously
struggle, but I mean, we've

1230
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,600
worked in a school that's had
that, where they've had like a

1231
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,320
resources team and you just kind
of put in what you want and

1232
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,880
eventually they'll get around to
making it for you.

1233
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,880
I like the idea of working more,
you know, I, I don't necessarily

1234
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,520
use it, my teaching too much,
even though it might be good.

1235
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,520
I'm not saying it's good or bad,
whatever, but it's obviously

1236
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,120
good to have a vocab war
children can look at.

1237
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,640
It's got to be practical.
That's all I really care about,

1238
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,120
all I really care about about
in.

1239
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,240
But the time to do it though.
In schools, yeah.

1240
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:48,680
It's not this now, right?
But that's another thing, right,

1241
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,240
in terms of like, but if a
school was saying, oh, no,

1242
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,880
teacher shouldn't be doing this,
OK, we'll cancel two of your

1243
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,080
staff meetings and give them
those two hours like if you

1244
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:56,880
want.
I just don't know.

1245
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,640
I thought there's a time.
I thought there's a way to not

1246
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,680
go to the extreme of we haven't
bare walls in our school because

1247
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,880
we've been told teachers can't
do this.

1248
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,080
I'll just give them time to do
it.

1249
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,000
I'm sure they won't mind doing
it.

1250
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,640
It's just when it's on top,
that's when I'm like, that's an

1251
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,240
unfair expectation.
I've worked in a school where it

1252
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,600
was just honestly changing
displays that every term took so

1253
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,280
much time.
So many evenings I spent like

1254
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,800
way after school hours had
finished just doing displays.

1255
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,320
Would be would you tell people
listening to say no to that now?

1256
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,520
Oh God, yeah.
I wish I could go back and be

1257
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,320
like, no, typically I wish not
even just no.

1258
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,920
I wish I could go back and say
when would you like me to?

1259
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then when they inevitably

1260
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,960
say, oh, in your free unpaid
time at the weekend or the half

1261
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,760
term or at 6:00 PM, I'll be
like, oh, OK, I'm not going to

1262
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,160
do it then.
Is there any other time in in

1263
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,080
like the paid out otherwise I
could do it, yeah. 100.

1264
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,560
Percent and when they say no we
go OK what's the solution then

1265
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,440
yeah who who's going to do it
for me then I.

1266
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Think it's a really good
attitude to have which is not to

1267
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,320
say I want to do this yeah, that
that is like you're putting up

1268
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,160
the wall almost straight away,
aren't you and say no, I'm not

1269
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,400
doing that and I'm awful at that
I will jump to straight away.

1270
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,160
Nope, not doing it.
Nope, not doing it.

1271
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,400
Yeah.
Well, actually what you should

1272
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,840
say is OK when like that when
and how yeah.

1273
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,720
And and if that can't be
answered, then you've almost put

1274
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,600
the answer on them rather than
on you being negative and all

1275
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,720
not going above and beyond.
And no, I'm not.

1276
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:07,320
But there's a risk though, that
they have thought about it and

1277
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,320
they'll give you a really good
answer at which case at which

1278
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,240
point, if it's reasonable,
you've just got to accept it and

1279
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:14,000
that's fine.
It's like, oh, yeah, next staff

1280
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,040
meeting, we're giving you all
time to do it.

1281
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,800
You're like, oh, OK.
And that's fine.

1282
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,040
Then, but the wall has to go
down, yeah.

1283
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,720
Yeah.
And even though I don't like

1284
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,560
doing displays, if they say
you've given half a day to do

1285
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,320
it, yeah, but, well, obviously
I'll do it.

1286
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,880
You are paying, It's my job.
So yeah, you don't have to like

1287
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,680
every part of your job.
Yeah.

1288
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,800
So yeah, classroom environment,
I think it needs to be

1289
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,480
practised.
That's cool.

1290
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,960
It obviously needs to hit what
your SLT are asking you, but

1291
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,560
just look at what your SLT are
asking for you.

1292
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,760
Is it fair?
Is it reasonable?

1293
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,280
If it's not, ask questions.
But yeah, practicality, have

1294
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,600
that at the front of your mind.
Don't do something because it

1295
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,720
looks cool.
But then if you actually go and

1296
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:46,040
sit in all of the spaces, and
this is amazing thing I saw on

1297
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Blue Sky, I can't remember who
posted it, but they said in

1298
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,960
September at the start, go and
sit in every single seat in your

1299
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,320
in your classroom seating plan
and environment.

1300
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,520
Don't sit in every single seat
and see if everything's

1301
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,400
practical and useful.
So you know, if you sit in 32

1302
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,160
seats and 10 of them can't see
the English vocab board, that's

1303
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,240
now a pointless board because
what do you want an English

1304
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:07,960
vocab board for?
It's for when they're working.

1305
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,040
The children can look up and
see.

1306
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,520
Some if 10, can't see it if 10.
Can't see it.

1307
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:11,800
They're not going to put it in
their work.

1308
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,000
So I was like, Oh my God, that's
such an easy way sometimes.

1309
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,880
It's hard though, isn't it?
You get awkward classrooms.

1310
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,600
Yeah, completely.
In my classroom, I've got like

1311
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,360
almost like a dead spot where
you just, it's just so angled to

1312
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,960
see the board, but there's
nowhere else but the tables

1313
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:22,920
because it's just not big
enough.

1314
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,720
But anyone on that table just
really struggle to see the board

1315
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,240
because it's just on such an
angle at the front I'm.

1316
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,560
Like, oh, I can't and I guess.
Them back as far as I can.

1317
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,120
Another thing then, as teachers,
it's that knowledge of doing

1318
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,240
that, at least you know well,
those ten kids can't see it.

1319
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:37,120
So I'm gonna have something in
place for them.

1320
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,360
Yeah, I'm gonna allow them to go
out of their seat and go and

1321
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,560
look when we're doing this
writing.

1322
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,200
So if then ten kids do that, I'm
not going.

1323
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,880
Well, you're sitting.
Oh, yeah, I did tell you that

1324
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,320
just now.
I've.

1325
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,040
Got about four, four that are
just just slightly too far and

1326
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,800
it's just hard to see And, and
whenever we do anything remotely

1327
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,560
relies on the interactive board,
we actually have to be looking

1328
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,040
at or watching a video or
reading something.

1329
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,680
I'm always like just come and
come and sit over here.

1330
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,560
Just literally come and sit on
the carpet over here or just

1331
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,440
move your chair around for a
bit.

1332
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,400
Yeah, you can go back to your
table to work, but yeah, you've

1333
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,520
got to think of.
Something so quickly in

1334
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,400
classroom environment.
Last thing, seating plans, rows,

1335
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,520
groups.
Boy, girl, boys, we'll go.

1336
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,360
You know, higher ability, lower
ability.

1337
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,400
Where do you stand?
All that kind of.

1338
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,960
Stuff it doesn't matter.
I just I understand over the

1339
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,120
years I've been every single one
and and none of them made any

1340
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,640
difference ever.
I just think it's personal

1341
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:15,600
preference.
Yeah, absolutely.

1342
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,840
I don't want to say anymore on.
That I would actively avoid.

1343
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,480
Boy girl, that's my I hate it.
I hate that idea of one of them

1344
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,840
do boy guards and they'll talk
less.

1345
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:26,160
Right.
No, don't perpetuate that in

1346
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,520
your classroom, okay?
All you need to do as a teacher

1347
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,400
is obviously don't put friends
next to each other clearly.

1348
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,560
And if they happen to be,
there's a whole group of eight

1349
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,360
that are girls who are all
friends and talk to each other,

1350
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,080
try and avoid that.
Do you know what you can also

1351
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,880
do?
You could also not and teach

1352
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,280
them to how to behave in the
classroom.

1353
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,160
Yeah.
Like, you're gonna have to do

1354
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,440
stuff sometimes with your
friends.

1355
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,840
Like it's.
It is absolutely impossible to

1356
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,080
have a seating plan where
everything's perfect.

1357
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,440
So don't beat yourself up if you
do a seating plan.

1358
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,280
You think, oh, God, why have I
put these two together?

1359
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,280
They always talk.
Yeah.

1360
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,640
OK.
Well, this next time they won't

1361
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,680
be.
But for this time, they've got

1362
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:56,840
to learn that they can't talk to
each other.

1363
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,600
My seating plan system's really
simple.

1364
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,680
I do the same thing every single
time I tell the beginning of the

1365
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,240
year.
We change seating plan every at

1366
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,600
the start of each term.
No, there's there's nothing you

1367
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,880
can do about that and and we
won't do it mid term.

1368
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,160
It's just tough.
I always say to them if you get

1369
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,080
if you get something as a
friend, it's by accident.

1370
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,240
I randomise your seating plans.
That's what I tell the kids.

1371
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:14,520
Obviously, I don't actually
randomise it.

1372
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,440
And then the only thing I do
consider when I'm doing my

1373
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,240
seating plan, it's not boys and
girls and things like that.

1374
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,120
It is literally just what
children do I want closest to me

1375
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,840
so I know will need the most
support.

1376
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,600
I'm not having to go right round
and awkwardly to the back of the

1377
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,160
classroom.
I can just keep them nearer to

1378
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,880
me, nearer to the board.
And equally I pair them with

1379
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,520
children that I've learned are
really bad at focusing.

1380
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,640
I'll put them in place, places
where I can just be like helping

1381
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,440
them focus all the time.
Everyone else randomised changes

1382
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,960
each term.
If you moan about it tough, get

1383
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,560
over it.
And I find that they just, they

1384
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,360
just generally deal with it
like, okay, we're gonna change

1385
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,400
the term anyway.
And I'll say you learn to get on

1386
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,040
the people around how life
works.

1387
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,360
You're gonna be filled with
people you don't necessarily.

1388
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,360
Yeah, like that's when you get
parents come in and go because

1389
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,280
we move.
Could you move little Sally,

1390
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,000
please?
Because don't really like I'm at

1391
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,200
the point now where I'm like,
oh, not until next time.

1392
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,920
And I'm more confident now it
might start my career.

1393
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,680
But oh, yes, of course, straight
away.

1394
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,080
But if there's a safeguarding
issue or a very big falling out,

1395
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,680
I'd be like, oh, OK, I'll talk
to them and we'll get to the

1396
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,560
bottom of it and then maybe I
will obviously do that.

1397
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,600
But if it's simply just, oh, you
don't quite get on with that

1398
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,160
person.
I'm like, well, sorry, yeah, I

1399
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,840
agree.
Someone else might feel the same

1400
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,280
way.
Who I then move close to them

1401
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,000
and then I get a parent coming
to me saying oh can they move?

1402
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,960
It's always awkward.
You've got one child in your

1403
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,920
class who is a little bit
naughty or a bit, it's slightly

1404
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,040
annoying to the other children.
The children find that behaviour

1405
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,120
annoying.
And then yeah, you're constantly

1406
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,640
getting kids saying I don't want
to sit there.

1407
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,960
To that person, it's like, well,
yeah, come on, it's getting up.

1408
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,520
There now part of you know part
of them learning how to pay

1409
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,480
better is going to be you
learning how to deal with these

1410
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,000
behaviours also.
Yeah, when it's not you, you

1411
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,600
missed one big thing in
classroom environments.

1412
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,280
I know you want to move on.
And I feel like this is really

1413
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,600
important to me.
And it's hilariously that

1414
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,760
hilariously, as you didn't bring
it up, being really, really

1415
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,600
tidy.
I think that's I actually value

1416
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,560
that super high.
I don't know why I didn't bring

1417
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,280
that.
Up, yeah.

1418
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,400
I've been really organised,
really, really tidy classroom.

1419
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,240
I think that's really important.
I've struggled with it this

1420
00:51:57,240 --> 00:51:59,440
year, struggled to keep on top
of it and I've felt stressed all

1421
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,920
the time and I think children
sometimes get a bit stressed

1422
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,320
when there's just stuff
everywhere, but I think that's

1423
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,960
another big one.
Tidy, Tidy desk, tidy mind.

1424
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,440
Tidy desk, tidy mind.
That's the thing, yeah.

1425
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,960
Yeah, so that's why my mind is
messy as hell.

1426
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,560
Yeah, I struggle with that.
Class was not bad, though.

1427
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,680
I'm a Type B person.
Yeah, but it's not great.

1428
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,240
And, you know, I think stuff has
everything has a place.

1429
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,600
Again, there's got to be a
bottom line for that.

1430
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:21,680
Everything's got to have a
place.

1431
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,040
The kids know where to go for a
pencil.

1432
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,720
They know where to go for their
maths books.

1433
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,040
You could say, can you hand out
the English books?

1434
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,680
And they'll be like, yeah, sure.
And they'd go straight to

1435
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,600
English books.
But yeah, tidiness is important.

1436
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,000
And it's something I learned as
I got older.

1437
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,800
It's it's another way of having
routines and structure for your

1438
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,800
children.
They they can.

1439
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,920
They should be able to rely on a
tidy space I think.

1440
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:38,800
Yeah, OK.
Fair enough.

1441
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,840
Moving on, you know how I just
mentioned about children

1442
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,960
learning to socialise with
people that are not necessarily

1443
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,200
their best friends, so that's
next to them.

1444
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,920
Same for adults really, isn't
it?

1445
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,320
There's one of our points that's
a bit lower down our.

1446
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,080
List.
Yeah, No, no, no.

1447
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,320
I.
Thought it linked nicely about

1448
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,360
you know you're going to work
with people that aren't

1449
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,800
necessarily your best friends.
Yeah, yeah, that's tricky.

1450
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,840
Yeah.
No, it can't.

1451
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,760
It can be tricky.
I think again, talking to

1452
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,360
people, especially new teachers
who are asking for advice and

1453
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,840
stuff from the podcast.
I think this is something which

1454
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,520
equally applies to literally
everyone, though.

1455
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,560
This is one, I really like this
point because you are constantly

1456
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,120
moved about in a primary school.
It's quite unique really.

1457
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,200
If you worked in a different
kind of job, like my cousin

1458
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,680
works for this company, there's
like accounting or something,

1459
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,400
right?
And he's had the same team for

1460
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,440
honest like five years.
Because you're an accountant.

1461
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:26,880
You can't suddenly go into
sales.

1462
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,760
You're an accountant with the
accounting team.

1463
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,240
You're doing accounting with
teaching.

1464
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:31,440
It's like called I'm a year four
teacher.

1465
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,560
You can also be a year one
teacher, you can also be a year

1466
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,600
six teacher and you get moved
constantly.

1467
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,560
And if you're not getting moved,
some of your team's probably

1468
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,680
getting moved around.
So whether you're going to a new

1469
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,000
year group or someone's joining
you every year, I'd argue pretty

1470
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,280
much you're guaranteed a new
team in some respect, whether

1471
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,480
it's a teaching assistant or a
fellow teacher or whatever it

1472
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,880
is.
And I think it's really, really

1473
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,800
important to draw the line and,
and understand that you do not

1474
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,240
have to be friends with everyone
you work with.

1475
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,320
You can be friendly, you can be
cordial, and you absolutely

1476
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,560
should be always professional.
And if that's not two ways and

1477
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,880
that's a different conversation,
but you can be in control of

1478
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,040
being professional.
You don't have to like the

1479
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,280
person you're working with.
And I'm not saying I do or

1480
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,800
don't.
I'm quite fortunate I think

1481
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,760
right now with my team.
I really like all of them, you

1482
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,920
know.
Am I best friends with them?

1483
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,200
Obviously not because I'm best
friends with my best friends

1484
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:25,880
like, but with my colleagues.
Do I like them to go on with

1485
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,360
them?
Yes.

1486
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,400
Am I always professional with
them?

1487
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,680
I try to be as much as possible.
Have you ever worked with

1488
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,280
someone who you thought?
I just wish I didn't have to.

1489
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,000
Well.
Sitting, sitting.

1490
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,800
Awe.
For a podcast, God.

1491
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,320
You know what have I have?
I have.

1492
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,480
I've worked with people where I
think, where I've thought in my

1493
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,280
head I would never socialise
with you outside of this school.

1494
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,360
I don't necessarily dislike you
like where I think like you're

1495
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,520
horrible, but I think we are so
different.

1496
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,200
You're not the kind of person
that I actively want to

1497
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,320
socialise with outside the
school, but I don't hate them.

1498
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,680
You know?
A strong word, isn't it?

1499
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,240
Yeah.
I don't know.

1500
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:02,800
I would say it's never gone
further than that.

1501
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,600
I've ever worked with someone
where I'm so enraged by them

1502
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,840
that I think, Oh my God, you
know, I've had OK.

1503
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,760
The furthest it's ever gone is
just.

1504
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,480
I've just disagreed with like,
the majority of things that they

1505
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,600
say.
I think it's not got to an

1506
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,160
enraged level, but I'm always a
bit like a little bit on edge.

1507
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,360
Like I just, I just know that
we're going to think differently

1508
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,840
about this thing.
It's just annoying because we

1509
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,840
constantly don't agree on, like,
how to do this thing.

1510
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,240
Yeah, but that's about as far as
it's gone.

1511
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:27,480
What about you?
I'd say I've worked with, I've

1512
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,120
worked in a school with people
who I'm like, I actively don't

1513
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:30,880
like you.
Yeah.

1514
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,720
And that's just true.
Always going to happen.

1515
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:34,800
There's always going to be
people.

1516
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,040
I'm like you just I don't like
the way you treat the kids.

1517
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,240
I think it's it whether it's
acceptable or not, whatever, But

1518
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:43,000
I just think the, the, the way
you talk about them in the staff

1519
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,200
room, it's like you resent this
job.

1520
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,240
It's like why you?
I don't understand why some

1521
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:47,720
people are teachers.
I'll be perfectly honest.

1522
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,760
Like, like maybe you feel like
you're trapped in the job.

1523
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,000
Whatever, fine.
But yeah, maybe.

1524
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000
But go and do something else.
If you, if you, if what you're

1525
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,040
saying about about the the job
is, is true, then what on earth

1526
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,360
are you doing still here?
And I I struggle to bond with

1527
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,400
those types of people or get on
with them or think of ways.

1528
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,880
Yeah.
I just struggle with that

1529
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,200
because the number one reason
why I'm a teacher is because I

1530
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,320
love teaching the kids.
And if that, if I don't feel

1531
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,520
that from someone, I'm just a
bit like, wow, OK, don't know

1532
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,560
what you're doing, but I think
advice from starting September,

1533
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,520
if you're starting on a team
with someone who you just don't

1534
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,920
quite get on with, completely
bury that.

1535
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,000
Completely bury.
Don't let don't let it remotely

1536
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,160
get in the way because it's the
same for a child in your class.

1537
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:30,000
You're told in transition blood.
Yeah, Sally, she's a right

1538
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,600
nightmare coming up.
You got to sit next to her.

1539
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,920
You got you got off.
Jeez, that's Sally.

1540
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,160
You know, just be careful if the
teacher, like the year group

1541
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,560
below is saying that to you.
I also don't like that.

1542
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,320
Like it's cool to know these
things, but I want to form my

1543
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,000
own opinions.
I want to go in with a clean

1544
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,680
slate.
Same with my colleagues and my

1545
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,480
and my teaching stuff.
I want to go with a clean slate.

1546
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,400
I'm going to go in really
professional to say, OK, what

1547
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,760
are the best outcomes for the
kids?

1548
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,480
We're maybe planning together or
something like that.

1549
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,480
We're going to break it up
evenly, make sure it's fair,

1550
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,480
distribute stuff, and then if
something happens that I don't

1551
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,920
like or I think it's wrong or I
think it's unprofessional, then

1552
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,720
go from there.
But I think you've got to start

1553
00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:03,400
up a blank, clean slate.
Yeah, I agree, because I think

1554
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,680
the happiest, it affects your
mind massively.

1555
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,520
You know, I can tell you right
now the happiest I am at work is

1556
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,640
when is when the people around
me I'm just sort of chilled with

1557
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,480
even if it like you said,
wouldn't hang out with them

1558
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,880
outside the school.
But we all get along.

1559
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,520
We do the job properly together.
But yeah, if you're you're

1560
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,400
struggling with someone and
you're constantly moaning about

1561
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,720
them or you're going to their
teach, oh, they're doing this.

1562
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,480
You're just, it just stresses
you out.

1563
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,400
They live in rent free in your
head as people say.

1564
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,240
I bet everyone had this feeling
before, right?

1565
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,520
Where someone they don't quite
get on with someone, they don't

1566
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,800
like someone.
And then because you're living

1567
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,360
in that mindset, there's almost
nothing that person can do that

1568
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,840
doesn't annoy you.
And suddenly, you know, if you

1569
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,840
were eating a bag, well, maybe
not eating because that would

1570
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,720
annoy me.
But if, if you were like, if you

1571
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,880
just drank some of your drink
right now, yeah, I wouldn't

1572
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,040
think twice about it.
Yeah, but if someone I actively

1573
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,120
don't like sat there and drank
their drink right now, I I'd

1574
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,640
probably be like in the middle
of the pot.

1575
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,800
How rude I'm talking.
To him, you finally drinking

1576
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,920
their drink.
Where it's completely, yeah,

1577
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,920
it's completely.
Nothing wrong at all what

1578
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,920
they're doing, but with that
mindset you have that

1579
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:01,960
automatically makes it into a
bad thing and it just doesn't

1580
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:02,920
have to be.
We're very lucky.

1581
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,320
I think our school, we've got a
really, really, we're so lucky

1582
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,840
because I feel like every, every
teacher in our school and TA,

1583
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,760
they just get on even if it's
not, even if they're not friends

1584
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,920
outside of school.
We've we've nailed that surface

1585
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,080
level at least respect for each
other where everyone just gets

1586
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,200
on and we can all talk about
stuff.

1587
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,800
We can disagree on things as
well and it's just not a

1588
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,280
problem.
I.

1589
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,920
Think that's really powerful.
That's nice.

1590
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,000
That's a really good point
actually.

1591
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,480
To go on to very quickly is the
ability to disagree with someone

1592
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,560
without falling out with them as
staff.

1593
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,920
That's so important and you've
got to hit the ground running

1594
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,160
with that.
And I was thinking about, you

1595
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,600
know, obviously we need maths in
our school.

1596
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,560
Yeah, we every September we get
that time to go over maths

1597
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,800
basically and just touch base.
And we never disagree, do we?

1598
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,240
Set expectations gardener, but
what I thought would be really

1599
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,840
good having got some advice on
blue sky again, I said, well,

1600
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,680
what would you do with this
hour?

1601
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,480
It's really flexible.
I I normally do this go over

1602
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:52,880
CPD.
We've had recently go over our

1603
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,840
focus for the year, give you
some time to do some planning

1604
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,720
and talk to your team.
What would you do if you had the

1605
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,480
time and someone said put out an
anonymous questionnaire and just

1606
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,960
ask them some questions about
maths?

1607
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,080
You know, what was, what did you
find trickiest to teach last

1608
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:04,920
year?
So it's anonymous.

1609
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,280
And then you, as I can give
some, you know, resources out to

1610
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,760
everyone and say, oh, look,
here's some help.

1611
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,200
What went well?
What's going badly?

1612
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,600
And I thought, yeah, that's a
great idea.

1613
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,480
And I know some people would be
really reluctant to ask those

1614
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,280
questions, especially what went
badly.

1615
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,280
And it's like, but that's really
powerful.

1616
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,360
You're inviting criticism
because you lead maths, but

1617
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,880
you're being naive if you think
everything is perfect.

1618
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,480
So the I thought to myself,
yeah, I would really trust

1619
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,440
actually my colleagues, my
professionals, if they write

1620
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,440
something that said is going bad
with maths, you know what?

1621
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,920
It's because it is.
They're not out to get anyone.

1622
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,560
It's anonymous.
They're writing it because

1623
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,480
they're professional.
They go times tables is weak in

1624
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:41,640
my area.
We need some help.

1625
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:42,640
Cool.
And then I know because.

1626
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,160
We work in that school where
where we've got that

1627
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,760
environment, it's nice.
But if you're in a toxic school,

1628
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,600
I reckon I'd find it a lot
harder if you, if you know that

1629
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,240
in that school there's someone
who absolutely hates you, you

1630
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,800
don't get on with.
I wouldn't want to hand out that

1631
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,640
questionnaire because I know
they'll roast me because it's

1632
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,800
anonymous and you know, it's
harder to make those decisions.

1633
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,920
So it is, I think.
Yeah, there's a lot comes from

1634
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,840
taking time to make really nice
relationships with the people

1635
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,520
around you, even if they're not
your best friend, even if you

1636
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,960
think I'd never socialise with
them, make the effort at work

1637
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,560
because actually you're stuck
with them for a long time.

1638
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,840
Yeah, it's worth it.
And it comes down to controlling

1639
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,040
your mindset.
And I suppose this is the last

1640
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,920
thing we're going to talk about
in terms of in September.

1641
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,400
You, you have control over your
mindset on other people.

1642
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,840
Someone else might affect you,
you know, might not get on with

1643
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:19,920
you.
That's down to them.

1644
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,680
You know, if that happens, deal
with it.

1645
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,760
But from the offset in
September, have that mindset, of

1646
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,080
course, going to get on with
everyone.

1647
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,240
My whole class going to be
amazing.

1648
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,920
My my colleagues going to be
fantastic.

1649
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,040
And part of controlling your
mindset is you've got to take

1650
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,320
control from the offset from
September, we're sound like a

1651
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,040
broken record of that work life
balance.

1652
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,320
It is so important.
September especially is the time

1653
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,920
where you have to grip onto it
as tightly as ever because it's

1654
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,160
so easy for it to disappear and
so easy for people to almost

1655
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,640
blackmail you, make you feel bad
about your six weeks you just

1656
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,880
had off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1657
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,840
Doesn't matter.
You're going.

1658
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,680
To work really hard now.
From September, you've got to

1659
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,800
cling on to that work life
balance.

1660
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,280
What does it look like in
September, Hayden?

1661
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,760
Making sure that you look after
yourself and don't get bad out

1662
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,320
from the start.
Oh.

1663
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,920
Crikey, OK, right from the get
go.

1664
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,480
I'm just going to precursor this
with my one bit of advice I'd

1665
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,880
really want to push people to do
is before September starts, just

1666
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,120
just dedicate a little bit of
time to think about this, what

1667
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,760
we're about to say, right?
Get ready to hit the ground

1668
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,680
running properly and don't get
caught short.

1669
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,160
So proper work life balance is
not again, feeling guilty you

1670
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,240
just had six weeks off and
therefore taking on way more

1671
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,360
planning than you should be
doing.

1672
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,880
Your planning should be what
should meet whatever your

1673
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,840
requirements are of your score,
whether whether that's you do it

1674
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,200
all in PPA, whether that's in
your head you like on Friday

1675
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,160
nights is my planning night.
As long as you can get it done

1676
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,640
in the time that you've
allocated and no more, that's

1677
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:37,520
fine.
That's fine.

1678
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,720
You do what you do, but don't
take on anymore just because,

1679
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,040
OK, it's a planning marking if
you or any policy at school.

1680
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,360
If you feel like it's changed
since last year and you just

1681
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,480
think this is ridiculous now and
they're just expecting way too

1682
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:48,760
much for us.
I can't get this done in in the

1683
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,360
time you need to say something
about it that's affecting your

1684
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,120
work life balance.
Go on, jump in with.

1685
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,520
No, you're absolutely right.
Because I think it's such a,

1686
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,040
such a powerful thing because I
sometimes feel like we're

1687
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,520
preaching to people we can't
help.

1688
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,720
But I really do think we can
because I feel like we're even

1689
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,520
preaching to people have already
gone through this conversion and

1690
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,680
I've spoken to SLT and it's
sorted or people who are going

1691
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,280
to speak to SLT and it's going
to be sorted.

1692
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,600
They've got understanding SLT
that with those people, I'd say

1693
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,160
to say to them is you've got to
be the person to action it

1694
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,720
though, because there might be
the loveliest SLT in the world

1695
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,120
and the nicest meaning, but
don't know what's going on.

1696
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,320
They don't know that you're
taking marking home every day.

1697
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,240
That's clearly not acceptable,
so be proactive and then you'll

1698
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,960
you'll find it will change
quickly and your life will be

1699
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,120
better.
Be a bystander.

1700
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,720
Don't be a bystander.
Don't be a martyr.

1701
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,320
Be an upstander.
Don't go to the staff room and

1702
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,680
say bloody hell, marking again,
but then do nothing about

1703
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,480
change.
You've got to be proactive about

1704
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,760
it.
Or I'm talking to people in the

1705
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:40,840
toxic school where it doesn't
matter.

1706
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,520
The school just like completely
make them feel like feel awful

1707
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,480
for not possibly doing anything.
I did a post this summer.

1708
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,240
I ended up feeling quite bad,
but I still stand by what I

1709
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,360
said.
So I'm really interested what

1710
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,920
you, what you think.
I, I was, I was talking about

1711
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:59,960
people who in school teachers,
there are some teachers and we

1712
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:01,800
do a podcast.
So obviously we're probably

1713
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,560
under this umbrella who like to
moan, OK, and who will say, oh,

1714
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,760
I do 60 hours work a week.
Some of them don't you just

1715
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,200
don't do 60 hours a week.
If you actually add up 60 hours

1716
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,040
a week, that's a lot.
That's 12 hours a day if you're

1717
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,560
just doing Monday to Friday or
10 hours and then six hours at

1718
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,120
the weekend.
Sometimes you just don't.

1719
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,520
People exaggerate, but a lot of
people do.

1720
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,480
So that's not what I was saying.
I'm just saying sometimes people

1721
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,440
like to exaggerate as teachers.
It's still horrendously lots and

1722
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,800
stuff like that.
That's why I felt a bit bad.

1723
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,840
But the, the real reason I felt
bad is because I said I just

1724
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,120
don't believe when people say to
me they're doing 3 hours of work

1725
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,640
after after school every
evening.

1726
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,400
And my point was, I simply don't
believe it because I don't

1727
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,720
understand how I, I don't
understand how you can fill 15

1728
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,360
hours from Monday to Friday.
I just didn't get it.

1729
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,360
I'm like, and I end up just, I,
I, I don't believe you.

1730
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,800
And I'd love to sit in the room
next to someone who said it from

1731
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,960
6:00 to 9:00 every evening
watching what they do for three

1732
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,080
hours because two things even
they're doing it and I can't

1733
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,040
comprehend it.
That's why I don't believe you,

1734
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,280
because I can't comprehend how
insane your expectations are.

1735
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,400
What could even exist?
What could even happen?

1736
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Maybe it does, or you're
exaggerating a bit and you can

1737
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,400
maybe take control.
And that's what I was getting

1738
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:14,640
at.
I think teachers need to take

1739
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,600
control more because it's easy
to slip into this martyr

1740
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,040
environment of feeling
constantly on and unless you

1741
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,680
actively go in and turn that off
and say no, I'm not doing it, I

1742
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,560
can see why people feel that way
and feel like they're doing 3

1743
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,160
hours a night.
It's a hard one because it's a

1744
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,720
bit of a catch 22 because do you
know what I believe?

1745
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,080
People that are saying they're
working 3 hours a night and I

1746
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,200
believe it's because they are
doing the job to 100%.

1747
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,440
And it's one of those weird
things where I'm like, it sounds

1748
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,800
stupid for me to say this is the
kind of job where you cannot

1749
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,880
give it 100% all the time.
That sounds like I'm just being

1750
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,720
like, be lazy.
Do less than you can.

1751
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,520
You literally can't if you
actually like this.

1752
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,040
It's endless really, if you
think about it.

1753
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,800
I could if I wanted to, and I'm
sure you could.

1754
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,840
I could spend 8 hours marking a
single English lesson if I

1755
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,360
wanted to.
Do you know what I mean?

1756
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,280
Because I could think I could
invent some crazy thing that I

1757
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,720
need to do for that.
That's what I mean.

1758
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,120
That's what I mean, right?
And I agree.

1759
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,840
So I think a lot of these
people, I reckon 99% of the

1760
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,040
people that are working hours
every single evening after being

1761
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,800
at work for like like 11 hours,
like crazy long days, could

1762
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:20,080
probably just sit back, assess
the situation and cut back on

1763
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,480
some something precisely by not
giving 100.

1764
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,400
That's that's the problem
though, when I spoke to people

1765
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,240
about this in the past, because
I've known people that like

1766
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,720
closely that are like this, it's
because they just want to do the

1767
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,560
job really, really, really well
all the time.

1768
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,680
And whereas I've sort of already
got to the point where I'm like,

1769
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,440
I'm going to sacrifice this
little bit, this little bit,

1770
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,080
this little bit for the sake of
my work life balance.

1771
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,800
And it's not really going to
make much difference.

1772
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,880
You know, they spend 3 hours
marking those books.

1773
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:45,800
I spend one hour marking those
books.

1774
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,840
And actually the kids did the
same amount of work, the same

1775
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,760
outcomes at the end of the year.
I just didn't sacrifice 2 hours

1776
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,600
of my time.
But maybe I don't look as good

1777
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,440
because the books don't look as
good.

1778
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,480
And I think there's always
little things that you can

1779
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,240
compromise on and.
If you're in a toxic school,

1780
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,200
that's important.
Yeah, isn't it?

1781
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,000
How the books look becomes an
important thing.

1782
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,760
I remember getting drawn into
the whole point of, you know,

1783
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,800
we'd have scrutiny on books,
right in this school we worked

1784
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,120
in, where it was just
horrendous.

1785
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,440
And the scrutiny would be sent
to everyone, right?

1786
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,760
And it'd be like a tick box.
So it'd be like 10 statements.

1787
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,240
And the more ticks the better
kind of thing.

1788
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,480
And it would be like 3 peer
reviews every week, 17 ticks and

1789
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,360
every lesson.
All this, none of about change,

1790
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,520
none of about learning, just
insane tick box crap.

1791
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,640
And you'd know someone else got
9 ticks out of 10 and you got 3

1792
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,520
ticks out of 10.
And you're just like, yeah, the

1793
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,720
only reason they got 9 instead
of three was because they did

1794
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,760
hours of extra work unpaid in
there every time.

1795
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,480
And I can see, I completely get
it.

1796
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,320
I can see why it would you would
feel pushed into doing it.

1797
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,840
Like you've got to.
What I want to say to people is

1798
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,600
you don't.
If you're doing 3 hours of work

1799
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,200
every evening, you're doing too
much.

1800
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,040
And it is not acceptable.
It's because one of two things,

1801
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,920
your school's completely toxic
and you're being pushed to do so

1802
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,280
and you need to stand up and not
do it or move school eventually,

1803
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,960
if it's still not a problem or
you're pushing yourself too much

1804
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,400
and you need to take control of
it more.

1805
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,760
And, and that's, I feel really
strongly about that.

1806
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,640
And I don't want to feel like
I'm attacking people who work

1807
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,960
really hard or, or do this extra
work and they already feel

1808
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,240
stressed.
And then there's me going, oh, I

1809
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:14,760
don't believe.
You just don't do.

1810
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,760
It Yeah, it's a.
Bit condescending my point of

1811
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,640
saying I know what you mean.
Yeah, my point of saying I don't

1812
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,600
believe you is I don't believe
that's necessary.

1813
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,920
Just don't do it.
And I'm, I'm, I'm passionate

1814
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,720
about it because I don't want
you to get burnt out because you

1815
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,320
know what, if you're doing it,
you're probably an amazing

1816
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,320
teacher because you're obsessed
with doing the right thing.

1817
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,440
Here's a.
Little homework task for

1818
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,720
everyone.
Then go and find the person in

1819
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,720
your school who who does the
least work genuinely.

1820
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,640
And it might not be for best
reasons, it might not be, but go

1821
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,000
and find them and literally just
find out what they do.

1822
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:38,400
Yeah.
Why?

1823
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,760
Why are they coming in at 7:45
and going home at 4:00 every

1824
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,920
day?
And saying they're not doing any

1825
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,360
work.
Outside.

1826
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,280
Yeah, and they're not doing work
outside of school.

1827
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:46,960
You might not agree with all the
things they're not doing.

1828
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,680
You might be thinking they're
actually not doing some stuff

1829
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,600
they should be doing.
But just go and find out what

1830
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,200
they are doing and find the
middle ground.

1831
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,200
Because if you're doing 20 more
hours in them a week, but

1832
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,320
realistically you're getting
similar outcomes each year and

1833
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,320
actually not much is changing
and they're still employed and

1834
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:00,880
nothing actually bad is
happening, they're just getting

1835
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,920
more of a life than you, then
there might be something to

1836
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,160
learn from them.
There might be something.

1837
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,680
Yeah, absolutely.
No, I think that was really a

1838
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,360
really good chat.
Yeah, I think we're gonna round

1839
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,240
that off there.
But yeah, September is coming.

1840
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,880
I wanted to round it off by just
saying that every single end of

1841
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,040
August that comes around, this
is my 10th now, which seems

1842
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,840
insane.
I am excited.

1843
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:23,399
It doesn't matter.
You forget all the other stuff,

1844
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,359
maybe swear six weeks off.
You forget what it's like when

1845
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:29,000
it's 5:30.
You still got to set a marking

1846
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,240
to do what you do remember
though, And what I'm so looking

1847
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,800
forward to is my class of 32
children walking in on their

1848
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,800
first day, being excited to be
in school, all in their new

1849
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,520
uniforms and they'll sat down on
some radio, brand new equipment,

1850
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,920
ready to learn some maths.
And then I get to stand in front

1851
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,560
of them and teach them.
Maths, not smile.

1852
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,080
Until Christmas, but I get to
teach them maths, I get to be

1853
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:53,600
excited, I get to build a safe
space for them, I get to watch

1854
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,760
them progress, I get to watch
them grow, I get to build

1855
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,840
relationships with them.
There's something about

1856
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,439
September or just gets me so
excited and I'm I'm really

1857
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,120
looking forward.
To it.

1858
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,279
Yeah, brilliant.
I love your passion.

1859
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,600
It is nice.
You always get really, really

1860
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,120
buzzed for the new year.
Because it's so exciting, you

1861
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,560
can mould them again.
You can really take them on

1862
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,200
journeys and see them progress.
Whether there'll be five kids

1863
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,880
who make amazing social progress
across the year and then make

1864
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,720
friends that never made before.
There be some kids who they

1865
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,080
can't talk in the classroom, and
then after two months, they feel

1866
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,240
they can talk to you and they
put their hand up and it gets to

1867
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,200
December and this kid for the
first time ever done a home

1868
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,240
learning project.
They got, you know, completely

1869
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,399
engrossed in something.
You talk.

1870
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:34,399
You know what, extremely
selfishly, 10 year ago, me

1871
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:39,399
coming out here, you get to see
32 kids just love you genuinely

1872
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:42,560
because you because you work so
hard to do the right thing for

1873
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:43,760
them.
And and if you do the right

1874
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,040
thing for them, they end up
respecting you and they love you

1875
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,520
like family.
And by the end of the year, it's

1876
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,359
crazy.
And I and I love that feeling.

1877
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:54,200
And that that is, you know, if
ever it got to the point where

1878
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:58,280
we didn't teach anymore.
Oh, God, I struggled to ever

1879
01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,360
replace that.
Yeah, it's hard.

1880
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,440
That's what makes this probably
the best job.

1881
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,560
I I can't imagine doing another
job completely and never doing

1882
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,320
this again.
Horrible start crying in a

1883
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,400
second.
You will not, I won't.

1884
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,920
Do you know who else I love?
We're going to finish this off.

1885
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,000
I love our listeners.
Thank you for listening.

1886
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,200
And like Dylan said, if there
are a bunch of new people today,

1887
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,120
I hope these tips helped you or
not tips really well.

1888
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,360
They have more of a discussion.
Just some thoughts about

1889
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,760
starting September right.
And thanks for waiting around.

1890
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,280
We're good letting us have our
summer.

1891
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,840
We do appreciate it because you
know what I loved in loved in

1892
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,960
this podcast, but it was quite
nice to think about it for a

1893
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:28,880
couple of weeks.
It was good.

1894
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,240
It was good.
We've done that.

1895
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,000
I really enjoyed that chat.
I'm looking forward to this

1896
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,880
year.
I think over this year we're

1897
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,680
going to take another step in
the podcast game, I reckon take

1898
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,360
even more seriously.
Wow, first I'm hearing.

1899
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,760
A new setup it's not trying.
To make it more traumatic.

1900
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,080
Is not.
We're talking about this.

1901
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,840
Let's talk about this an hour
ago and I said I was going to

1902
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,120
say this.
We might, we might even get a

1903
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,160
second camera, who knows, that'd
be nice.

1904
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,160
Maybe we'll move out of this
studio, which is Hayden's third

1905
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,560
bedroom, Who knows.
But yeah guys, if you did enjoy

1906
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,320
this, please do follow us on
Spotify.

1907
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,520
Please leave us a review.
We're heading towards 100 on

1908
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,760
Spotify.
We're over 100 on all platforms,

1909
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,680
5 star reviews, but it really
helps us.

1910
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,360
And if you could share it, give
it to someone who's starting in

1911
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,920
September.
Which teachers are starting in

1912
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,040
September?
Oh yeah, all of them.

1913
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,440
Send it to all of your teaching
friends and yeah guys, get in

1914
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:13,560
touch.
We love hearing from you.

1915
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,320
And we'll we'll be back next
week.

1916
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,240
Maybe promise we will.
No, we will.

1917
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:18,880
We will.
We will.

1918
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:19,640
Absolutely.
Maybe.

1919
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,520
Definitely.
Right, See you then.

1920
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,520
See you then.
Potentially bye then I wanted to

1921
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,040
speak last.
Bye.