April 14, 2024
Ep 58: The Hilarious Mrs Smith: Learning Stalks, Knobservations & Stand-Up Comedy

In our weekly catch-up, we discuss the difference between self-care and self-soothing, the fact Hayden is always ill & why McDonalds chicken nuggets taste like cardboard. Then, we welcome the awesome Mrs Smith to the podcast to chat about her stand-up tour, politics in education & her famous classroom glossary. Anyone who knows Mrs Smith knows you're in for a good time with this one. You don't get 70,000 Facebook followers by accident! Follow us on Instagram: @teachsleeprepeatpodcast
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This is a public service
announcement. This
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episode of Teach Stupid
Pete does not include a
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video. So
if you're looking to see
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Hayden's bald head or
Dylan's red face, you won't
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be able to this week.
Hayden,
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I'm trying to do a thing.
Trying
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to do a thing where I
sound like one of those,
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you know, movie people at
the start of a channel.
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Oh,
okay. Well,
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you know, I'll record it
next time. Do
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you want to do it again?
No.
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Oh, I'll have to use that
one. I've
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done it. Yeah,
we are. I'm
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going to use this as well,
this whole conversation. Are
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you not going to tell the
people that the reason
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we're not filming is
because we've got Mrs.
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Smith?
I was going to. You
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into I was going to talk
about Mrs. Smith
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and her anonymity because
she's so funny on Facebook
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and she's got so many
people who follow her but
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don't know what she looks
like and she's maintained
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it for years. Come
on, our podcast and talk
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to us. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. OK.
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All right. Fair
enough. OK.
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Well, we've got time. So
we'll use we'll just use
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that one. All
right, let's use that to
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the. Skip
the intro. Skip
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the intro. Yeah.
No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I'm
just going to do my voice
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again. Here's
the intro. Hello,
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everyone. I
go back to another episode
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of Teach Stupid Pete. My
name is Dylan and my name
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is I'm ill again. Yeah,
it's I'm ill again, man.
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Nice
to see you. I'm
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ill again, man. How
are you? I'm
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ill, actually. I
don't know if I've
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mentioned. Yeah,
I do know why. I
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think in the last eight
episodes, I have been like
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properly ill for like at
least three of them. What
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is wrong with that? Sorry,
did you say eight or 80?
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Because
I don't I'm I'm I'm
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getting this sense of you
run on 10 percent the
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whole time that you're
alive. If
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we go if we go to back
80, I reckon I've been ill
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at least 30. So
I keep keep up the ratio,
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you know. What's
wrong with me? I
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just catch everything. Oh,
you're welcome, guys. Yeah,
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it does just stand out,
though, because you were
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the one person who during
covid always constantly
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wanted to tell everyone you
ever saw. Because
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when I was with you all
the time, I've never got
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it. I've
never got it out of the
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way. And
you were just in the
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middle of coughing because
you got something else.
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Yeah,
yeah, I didn't have covid,
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though. And
I don't have it now. Yeah.
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All right. All
right. Yeah.
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Well, well, I believe that
never, let's say. How's
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your week been? Although
gone. I
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can't smell. So
yeah. Oh,
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it's not covid. Covid.
Covid. Do
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you have the number one
symptom of covid? Yes.
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OK. Weirdest
sense. I'm
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going to talk about for a
second. Weirdest
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sensation. Never
had this before. I
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know, but a lot of people
with covid were talking
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about not being able to
taste things and smell. But
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I have absolutely zero
percent smell now. Like
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you genuinely cannot smell
anything. It's
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mad. And
I did the ultimate. I
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did two ultimate tests. You
know, I hate cheese, right?
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Absolutely.
Just cheese is disgusting.
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You
didn't eat some cheese. No,
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I didn't eat it. I
mean, that's mad. That's
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an excellent. But
I did, you know, you know,
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like if you've got cheese,
I can smell it and it
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just puts me up with food,
like even in the next
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room. Yeah.
I went up to a bag, a
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bag of cheese from the
fridge. And
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I went up to a bag of
cheese. I'm
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sorry. I
had a little word. It
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sounds like it's something.
It
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sounds like it's some kind
of bany like in a video
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game. I
went up to a bag of
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cheese. Just
didn't look at all that.
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Smoking
a cigarette, looking,
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looking hard. That's
exactly what I did. And
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I thought, well, this would
this will test my nostrils.
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And
I put my face into the
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bag of cheese and I took
in the biggest inhale and
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I smelled nothing. And
I thought, OK, there is
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something wrong with my
nose. As
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it's been linked to your
taste then, have you
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noticed like taste has
changed? Because
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yeah, like isn't smelling
taste completely linked or
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something? But
my taste has gone down to
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like 20, 30 percent. I
can I can sort of taste
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stuff, but it's really,
really mild. Like
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everything tastes a bit
like cardboard. Yeah,
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very, very strange. So
not having the best time.
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I
did want to say, though,
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you know, because yesterday
we're on our second week
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now of halftime and we're
recording this on the last,
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technically the last day of
halftime, which is the
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Friday before we go back
on Monday. And
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yesterday I had a fantastic
day. When
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I went for a lovely walk
with three babies, you
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know, the three girls went
out, my Lauren, your
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Lauren, Amy, me and Jack,
my mate, we went out and
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and it was just it was
just bloody lovely. And
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I was just wanting to say
that there's something about
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a group of five where if
there was just one extra
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person in that group, I
don't know who could have
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been. But
if there was just one
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extra person who came with
us, the whole dynamic would
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have shifted. It
would have been awful. But
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such a good day. What
did you do yesterday? Well,
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I was actually really
looking forward to I was
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going to go out with my
mates. There
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was a group of five
friends, some of us were
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kids and we were going to
go out. But
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I couldn't because I was
poorly. Well,
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annoyingly, I wasn't as
poorly. I
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felt fine yesterday, but I
was still very snosy. So
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I don't want to affect
everybody just in case. God
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damn, so annoying. Well,
those five friends happened
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to be me involved in. Oh,
it was and you stayed at
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home and did nothing. And
I think I think it was. I
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need everyone to know at
home that you missed out
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because that was bloody
lovely walk. And
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it do you know what? It
is linked to something I
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was going to say. So
I was just I was just
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contemplating. I
was just thinking back over
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my my week because whenever
we do this podcast, we
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always think we need to
chat about what we've been
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doing basically when we
have a little I don't know
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what to call it the start
when we go into our detail
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of our lives. Oh,
yeah, the boring bit when
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no one listens to we're
going to do that bit. And
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I don't know. I
saw a reel the other day
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by this guy called Charlie.
He's
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the teacher's health coach
and he's doing a lot of
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reels and content at the
minute. And
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it really got me thinking
because he was talking
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about the difference between
self care and self
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soothing. And
I think he really hit the
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nail on the head because
he said a lot of the
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traditional ways of looking
after yourself. It's
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actually not self care.
It's
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self soothing. It's
like almost putting a
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plaster on and hoping that
you feel better. And
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things that come under self
soothing would be, you
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know, having a bubble bath,
lighting a candle, you
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know, sitting down and
relax that kind of thing.
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And
his argument was no, no,
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self care is more
important. And
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you can't call that stuff
self care. Self
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care is forcing yourself to
go out on the walk when
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you don't want to. And
you end up feeling better
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after self care is forcing
yourself to reply to that
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email you've been putting
off and no longer is
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lingering over you. And
I just thought that is
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such a good point because
that walk I went on
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yesterday, I was looking
forward to having a walk
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for everyone, you know,
jokes aside, you too, you
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couldn't make it. But
that was a really nice
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thing I was looking forward
to. But
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I found in this half term,
there's been a few days
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where like, Rory's been
unsettled and we've had to
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go out and I was like,
right, I'm going to take
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him for a walk. And
I've ended up going on a
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two hour walk. And
to be honest, I probably
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would have rather just
stayed in and watched my
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latest show on telly or,
you know, had a lovely
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bath or had all these self
soothing things. But
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do you know what made me
feel better than anything
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was actually coming back
from that two hour walk in
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the brisk, you know,
weather, the sunshine, the
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wind in my face. I
ended up feeling better
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after and I just I don't
know, this this idea of
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self care versus self
soothing. Where
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do you sit on there? Do
you tend to do more self
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care or more self soothing?
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it seems like self soothing
is what's promoted, but not
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necessarily always what's
actually best for you.
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Well,
does it count? So
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last night, for example, I
don't know if this is self
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care. Last
night, I ordered 20 chicken
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nuggets. And
I only but I only ate
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like 12 of them. Does
that does that count as
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self care or is that more
like self soothing? I
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think that couldn't be more
self soothing. Yeah,
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yeah, because I know that's
good for you, I suppose.
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Yeah.
Yeah. And
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it's easy to just order
some chicken nuggets and
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eat them. And
that's hilarious because
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isn't it well annoying when
you want some chicken
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nuggets and they only do
obviously six, nine and 20.
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And
it's like, well, I want
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more than nine. Yeah,
I want 12. 12. So
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do you buy two sixes? No,
because it costs more than
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buying 20. So
you had that with just 20
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chicken nuggets. And
they had a deal on last
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night. So
it was like five pounds
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for 20 nuggets. I
was like, yes, I'll be
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I'll be taking that please.
Thank
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you. And
even though they already
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taste like cardboard, I
don't know why I ever get
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them. I
get them about once a year
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to remind myself that they
just taste rank. They
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already taste like
cardboard. And
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then they tasted more like
cardboard last night because
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I can't taste very well.
So
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it was a complete waste of
money and time and
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calories. Have
you tried eating some
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cardboard? Apparently
they taste like chicken
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nuggets. So
I might do it. Why
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it might work like that.
It
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all seriousness, though. We
don't like the I do like
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the whole self care, self
super. I've
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never heard that before,
but it can be, you know,
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when someone says something,
you're like, oh, that
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completely just makes sense
immediately. Of
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course, of course, there's
a massive difference between
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actually caring for yourself
and just soothing, you
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know, make yourself feel
better. That
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can make complete sense. I
probably do a lot of
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soothing and think that I'm
looking after myself. I'm
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notoriously terrible at self
care. I
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just I don't know. I
don't know what it is
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about you, but I just have
such a mental block. Any
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self care. I'm
like, ah, it's waste of
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time. I've
got other stuff to do. I'm
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so bad. I
don't know if it's like a
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classic, like stereotypical
male culture thing. Or
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if it's just me, I don't
know. I
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think it's about both
because the impression I
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got from this, which is
what I'm going to take
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away from it. And
it's just a short reel.
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It's
crazy how sometimes just a
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short reel really, really
makes you think, doesn't
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it? But
what I took away from this
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was that self care isn't
actually easy. It's
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not an easy thing to do.
Self
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soothing is quite an easy
thing to do. Anyone
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can go and like candle,
anyone can sit in a bath,
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you know. But
yeah, that isn't actually
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getting to the root of
many of your problems. It
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might feel good at the
time. And
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don't get me wrong. It's
nice to put a nice candle
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on and actually relax for
a minute. But
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that doesn't actually solve
any of the problems you're
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actually trying to get away
from. Because
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usually when you do that,
it's because, oh, gosh, I'm
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just putting off this work
I've got to do, putting on
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this conversation I want to
have. I
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need to sort out the
laundry. I
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need to go and actually go
downstairs and the kitchen
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needs tidying. All
of that self soothing
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doesn't actually solve any
of the issues that are
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probably driving your
anxiety. So
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what does self care look
like as a teacher? I
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don't know. I
think self care for a
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teacher. It
is answering those emails,
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you know, as soon as you
get them. I
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found my personal life has
like as a teacher in
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school has felt much better
when I bit the bullet and
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done small jobs. And
again, this was something
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someone else said. I
don't know who it was, but
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it really stuck by me. And
I struggled to do it in
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my personal life. But
I do think I tend to do
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it in my school life more
now. I'm
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not perfect, but I do it
more. And
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it's a very simple rule.
If
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something takes five minutes
or less, do it immediately.
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It's
a very, very simple rule.
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So,
you know, for example, we
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get emailed every week by
our deputy head to pick
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our learner of the week
and it will be pick your
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learner of the week, pick
your reader of the week
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and just put a quick
explanation as to why. And
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that genuinely takes two
minutes to fill out that
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form. And
for a long time at the
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start of this year, I
would just see that come
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through and I'd be like,
I'll call that takes two
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minutes. I
can do that whenever that
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would be my attitude. And
you know what would happen?
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I'd
never do it. I'd
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miss the car off and my
class would go into
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assembly. Everyone
would be getting their
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certificates. And
I think this is brilliant
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for my deputy head to be
honest. It's
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on me. He
say, oh, I didn't get it
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in time. You
know, and then and then
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that's the only says on me
because my class would come
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back to me and go, um,
where's the class? Where's
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the learner of the week?
And
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I'd even have to do it
late or I'd have to say,
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I'm sorry. And
I'd have to face the class
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that way. But
it takes two minutes to
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do. So
now as soon as that email
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comes through, I do it
immediately. And
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now the deputy head makes
a joke that I'm the first
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to do it every single
week. And
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and do you know why?
Because
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it takes less than five
minutes. And
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I know it self care might
be a bit dramatic to say
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that's good for myself. But
I think it's a
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representation of what self
care actually looks like as
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a teacher. It's
those small jobs. Just
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do them. I
think I think as a
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teacher, self care is
extremely linked to work.
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Workload
and work life balance.
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Isn't
it really we've talked? I'm
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not going to talk about it
because we talked about it
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a million times in this
podcast going to listen to
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previous episodes. If
you'd like to hear more
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about workload, we've got
episodes on it. But
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yeah, self care as a
teacher is being strict
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with work life balance. I
think it's probably number
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one way for self care.
Anyway,
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moving on, um, I've got
I've got a little story. I
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want to share with you if
that's all right, because I
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thought that didn't want
the best time to do it in
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this episode is because
we're going to be talking
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to Mrs. Smith
soon. And,
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um, and I really wanted to
share this story this week.
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So
you might remember a couple
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of weeks ago, I had that
story about a child in my
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car thinking that a baby
cow is called a milf. If
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you listen to this, if you
want to go back and listen
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to that, it was hilarious.
They
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didn't they didn't see a
picture of a baby car for
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go out to milk. I
genuinely thought the name
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of a baby cow was a milf.
I
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think they got milk and
car confused or whatever.
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But
it was hilarious because
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they didn't know what milk
was. And
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I'm glad. Anyway,
so I was telling that
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story to a friend of mine,
Mr. Wilman,
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who we've had a couple of
stories on that we talked
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about the fact that he
writes books and things
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last week. So
I was chatting to him the
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other day, just catching
up. And,
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um, and he said that he
listens to that story and
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it reminded him of this
story. And
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I'm going to read out to
you what he wrote to me
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now. So
he said the other day when
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I was at a school teaching
music, I didn't know the
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kids because he's doing
cover supply. So
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I started with a game of
how many instruments can
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you name? Started
with the obvious ones like
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guitar and piano. And
once we'd been around the
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whole class, it just got a
bit trickier. And
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then one kid was like, Oh,
I know one. A
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bong. And
he was like, Oh, sorry,
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what? Sorry?
He said, yeah, yeah, a
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bong was laughing. And,
um, and he was trying to
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think of obviously what he
meant and also trying to
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move the conversation away
from, you know, getting
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high. It's
not really appropriate in a
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primary school thinking, OK,
he's clearly, you know, I
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don't know these kids. We
must be thinking that, you
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know, having me on or
whatever. And
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then, and then the kid,
you know, persisted with
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bong and was like, no, no,
yeah, you know, those loud
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things that you hit a
bong. And
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he was like, Oh, a gong.
Oh,
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Christ. Yeah,
a gong. OK,
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a gong. Just
really made me laugh. That
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is that kids like treating
music instruments like
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they're Pokemon. They
can just say their name.
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So
they can do what sounds
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make bong. Yeah,
yeah, at least at least it
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was close. Oh,
let's play the two. Love
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how it's. So
thanks to the thanks for
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the story about and just a
quick plug. If
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you have any stories you're
listening to a teacher or
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not teacher, I don't know.
And
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you've got a funny story
you'd like to share and
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please do write into us,
because firstly, it makes
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us laugh and we love
laughing. And
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secondly, we might even
share it on the podcast
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and make everybody else
laugh of your story. Dylan,
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where can people find us
and how do they like to
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us? Get
ours on Instagram at teach,
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sleep, repeat podcast. I'm
loving Instagram at the
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minute. I'm
loving it. So
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I absolutely, actually,
absolutely. That's
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actually an absolutely into
one there. I
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absolutely love it when
people mess just on
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Instagram. I
genuinely, I don't know
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what it is. I
get a little buzz because
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number one, people are just
so kind. There
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is something about people
saying what you're doing is
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great. I
love the fact I found your
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podcast. It's
really funny, blah, blah,
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blah. We
honestly hate and you don't
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see it as much as I do.
It
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just rolls in. It's
genuinely it makes this all
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worthwhile for me. Anyway,
for you, you're here
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because I force you to.
But
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if just getting touch on
on Instagram and followers
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on Instagram, that's the
place to be. I
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try and do stories as much
as possible to get some
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interaction. I'll
do some polls that are
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funny. I'll
do some polls that are
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genuine when I'm trying to
get some information from
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you guys that help us feed
the podcast, etc. And
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yeah, I don't know. I
don't know how much you
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actually pay attention to
our podcast, to our
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Instagram story, Hayden, but
I'm also entering the world
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now of trying to make some
reels that aren't just, you
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know, those those crappy
little green screen memes
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that I've been making that
somehow hit and get like
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millions of views because,
OK, cool. I'll
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do that for a bit, so we
keep ticking over. But
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I've been trying to do
some real life memes as
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well. I
don't know if you've seen
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any of them. I've
seen. I've
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seen. Yeah,
I have. I've
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seen. Yes,
cool. I
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like them. I
think they're funny. Oh,
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I thought you were going
to put you're going to rip
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me a bit there. I
was getting ready to be
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funny in a bad way. The
idiot. But
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yeah, once you get over
that initial almost like
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awkwardness of, oh, I'm
doing a meme and it's me.
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They're
actually really funny. Once
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you accept that they're
completely cringe, it's
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fine. Yeah,
because you just kind of
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you've accepted that they're
horrible. And
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you're leaning into comedy.
Yeah,
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it's meant to be funny. So
that's fine. If
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if I was doing really
serious reels, but I was
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also being idiot, it might
be a bit more like that
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guy that cries, really
cries on the arm. And
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I won't go to it. What
the actor, you know, you
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mentioned it now. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah. I
can't remember his name,
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though. So
I would call him out
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because I find his videos
really funny. He
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pretends to be people just
buy it all the time. They
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think he's acting for real
and he's just not. He's
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just over the top. Right.
Hey, Dan, we are coming
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towards the end of our
little chat here. Is
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there anything else you
wanted to mention before we
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introduce our esteemed guest
this week? No,
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no, no. Let's
get into it. Let's
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talk to the wonderful Mrs.
Smith.
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Guys, if you haven't
checked out Mrs. Smith,
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you can find her on
Facebook. I'm
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sure I mentioned it a
million times in this
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conversation that we had a
couple of weeks ago, as
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you'll soon find out at
the start of this chat,
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right at the beginning, in
fact, right at the end of
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the term, the school term.
So,
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yeah, let's talk to Mrs.
Smith
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and it's a blast. It's
a great conversation. So
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I hope you enjoy it, guys.
Hello,
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Mrs. Smith,
welcome to the podcast. How
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are you? I'm
fine. Thank
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you very much. Especially
as it's now the end of
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term. So
I'm good to go. You
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got a beer and that's it.
Well,
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00:16:30,260 --> 00:16:31,900
absolutely. So
just for context, because
467
00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:33,200
this will probably come out
in a couple of weeks. We
468
00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,980
are recording this on the
last day of term, right
469
00:16:35,980 --> 00:16:37,020
before the Easter holidays.
Is
470
00:16:37,020 --> 00:16:39,000
anyone else feeling
terrible? Like
471
00:16:39,008 --> 00:16:40,860
ill? I
feel like an illness going
472
00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:42,520
round. I
feel so gunky. Yeah,
473
00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:43,420
how are you feeling, Mrs.
Smith?
474
00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,459
So I presume you've been
at work today? Yeah,
475
00:16:47,459 --> 00:16:50,840
I feel fine, actually. I'm
not going to say whether I
476
00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,500
have or haven't avoided
things, because that's
477
00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:54,620
always a kiss of death.
But
478
00:16:54,620 --> 00:16:57,020
yeah, I feel at the
moment, this moment in
479
00:16:57,020 --> 00:16:58,800
time, I feel perfectly
fine. Thank
480
00:16:58,808 --> 00:16:59,740
you very much. Oh,
brilliant. Well,
481
00:16:59,740 --> 00:17:00,940
thanks so much for going
on the part. We
482
00:17:00,940 --> 00:17:04,119
have been fans of your
Facebook page for ages, as
483
00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,000
a lot of people have. I'm
sure a lot of people
484
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,400
listening right now have
come from your Facebook
485
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,680
page. So
we really appreciate you
486
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,680
coming here. Sorry
to a technical glitch for
487
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,119
everyone listening, because
the camera's not working
488
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,220
for Mrs. Smith,
so I'm afraid. I'm
489
00:17:16,220 --> 00:17:18,560
afraid you can't see her,
which is a real shame. I
490
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,760
know that's what you all
came for. Yeah.
491
00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,940
So tell us very quickly,
who we go into a bit
492
00:17:23,940 --> 00:17:25,319
about you. What
have you got planned for
493
00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,960
the Easter holidays? Are
you going to rest? I'm
494
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,020
going to rest for the
first bit, but for the
495
00:17:30,020 --> 00:17:33,440
second half, I'm actually
on tour, which is a bit
496
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,800
weird for me, really. So
I'm going to East Anglia
497
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,620
and I'm doing, well, I'm
doing one show in the
498
00:17:40,620 --> 00:17:44,520
south of London and then
I'm going to East Anglia
499
00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,720
and I'm doing eight shows.
I'm
500
00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,080
doing four days. We
need to talk about that.
501
00:17:49,300 --> 00:17:50,480
We
need to talk about this in
502
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,920
different places. Yeah.
And then but each show,
503
00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:54,860
because they sold out so
quickly, I'm having to
504
00:17:54,860 --> 00:17:57,660
double up. Just
slip that in there. I
505
00:17:57,668 --> 00:17:59,560
love that. I
love that. Oh,
506
00:17:59,660 --> 00:18:02,820
you know, I'm so popular
guys. I
507
00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:04,840
need to talk about this
because obviously we talked
508
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,640
about your Facebook page
briefing. The
509
00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,820
reason it's so popular and
why we love it is because
510
00:18:08,820 --> 00:18:11,820
we like to have a laugh
and your humour is just
511
00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:14,340
so, so on point. And
these these shows you're
512
00:18:14,340 --> 00:18:15,640
doing, they stand up,
right? So
513
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,880
do you do you have kind
of a crossover? Do
514
00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,180
you talk about school a
lot? Is
515
00:18:19,188 --> 00:18:20,480
it about life in general?
Like,
516
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,200
what's the kind of thing
you actually discuss when
517
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,320
you're doing your show? Oh,
it's it's it's really much,
518
00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:28,340
very much education based
to stand up. So
519
00:18:28,340 --> 00:18:32,480
it's all stories about
schools, not stories about
520
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,720
kids, it's stories about
schools and what it's like
521
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,080
to be in school. Probably
mostly aimed at people who
522
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,840
might have everyone's been
to school. So,
523
00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:44,280
you know, for the most
part. So
524
00:18:44,288 --> 00:18:47,260
it's either if you've been
at school, if you're in
525
00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:49,820
school now, if you're I
mean, not kids, obviously,
526
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,400
adults, if you're in school
as an adult now, that's
527
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,680
really what it's for.
Certainly
528
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,400
wouldn't bring anybody under
the age of 18. Certainly
529
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,420
no one at all. Yeah,
your ex pupils turning up.
530
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,220
Oh,
this one's not about you.
531
00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:05,580
But
it's fine. You
532
00:19:05,580 --> 00:19:08,260
just don't tell them. Well,
you know, for the listeners
533
00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:10,400
that maybe don't know who
you are, you know, haven't
534
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,360
checked out your Facebook
page yet. Maybe
535
00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:13,540
you could just give us a
bit of background on
536
00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:15,460
yourself. So
I'd like to know, you
537
00:19:15,460 --> 00:19:17,340
know, what even made you
start that Facebook page in
538
00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:19,640
the first place? Because
it's, you know, a lot of
539
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,120
people find it extremely
funny now. But
540
00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:24,060
when did that begin? Oh,
I think a bit. Well,
541
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,219
I started writing bits and
pieces. And
542
00:19:29,219 --> 00:19:31,780
I've always written so, but
I started writing bits and
543
00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:35,160
pieces that were about
school and I shared them
544
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,060
with some friends and
actually wrote them down in
545
00:19:37,060 --> 00:19:39,120
a notebook and shared them
with them. And
546
00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:42,820
they said, can I give
these to my friends to
547
00:19:42,820 --> 00:19:43,860
read? I
thought, I'm not copying
548
00:19:43,860 --> 00:19:45,540
that out. You
know, I'm only six times,
549
00:19:45,620 --> 00:19:47,380
so you can show it to
your mates. And
550
00:19:47,380 --> 00:19:49,860
then I thought what I
would do was write. Then
551
00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:52,520
I'd try to send it to
them electronically, but
552
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,340
teachers aren't that good
with zip files sometimes.
553
00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:57,900
So
then I decided, well, I
554
00:19:57,900 --> 00:19:59,980
would write a blog and
that was just a bit
555
00:19:59,980 --> 00:20:01,620
clunky. And
then no one could ever
556
00:20:01,620 --> 00:20:03,800
find them. And
then I realized that, you
557
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,640
know, women of a certain
age are all on Facebook.
558
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,680
So
that's where I needed
559
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,480
really to put the page.
And
560
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,500
I discovered that I could
create one that was
561
00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:15,800
anonymous, you know, with a
false name, but, you know,
562
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,580
play the game. So
I did that. Yeah.
563
00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:22,840
And I wrote one post about
the school holidays that
564
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,060
went completely and utterly
viral. I
565
00:20:25,068 --> 00:20:27,580
mean, a million views. And
you remember that post? I
566
00:20:27,588 --> 00:20:30,900
went from having, I think,
something like 50 followers
567
00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:36,060
who were my mates at
school to thousands. When
568
00:20:36,060 --> 00:20:38,640
was that? Was
that like, were we talking
569
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,660
years ago? I
suppose about six or seven
570
00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:45,740
years ago. Six
or seven years ago. And
571
00:20:45,740 --> 00:20:49,200
it sort of poodles along
and then it sort of
572
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,040
exponentially grew. I
suppose that, you know, a
573
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,600
friendship with the friends
you should. Yeah.
574
00:20:52,660 --> 00:20:55,060
And then that it's just
gone to where it is now.
575
00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:56,960
Well,
the time of recording this,
576
00:20:57,060 --> 00:20:59,720
you're approaching 70 ,000
followers on Facebook, which
577
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,400
is really, really
impressive. So
578
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,160
a lot of people interacting
and only my class knew. So
579
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,840
I wanted to ask this, do
they have no idea? Because
580
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,080
Hayden and I, we dabbled
in, we made some YouTube
581
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,200
videos, some like, but it's
more like walkthroughs on
582
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,780
how to do certain questions
and, you know, help is
583
00:21:17,780 --> 00:21:21,000
teaching, basically. And
our class very much know
584
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,960
about that and know that
exists. So
585
00:21:22,968 --> 00:21:25,680
the your class is very
much more adult rated. So
586
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,020
it's a bit more of a
problem, maybe, if they
587
00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:30,200
find out. Is
there any kind of inkling
588
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,180
or any parents get involved
ever? Or
589
00:21:32,188 --> 00:21:34,780
do you ever have to like
reach that between or have
590
00:21:34,780 --> 00:21:37,200
you managed to maintain
that this being your job
591
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,480
and what you do afterwards?
Touch
592
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,200
wood. There's
a real difference between
593
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,380
the person. Well,
there's no difference
594
00:21:45,380 --> 00:21:47,640
between the person I am at
school and the person I am
595
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,520
online. Except
that Mrs Smith is me on
596
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,660
steroids with a swear word.
Yeah.
597
00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:58,280
But no, there is a there's
a line between the two. So
598
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,100
when I'm at school, I am
the person I am at school.
599
00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:04,080
Who's,
you know, teaches the way
600
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,180
I teach and that's it. And
then there's the person I
601
00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:11,980
am who's online, who's so
it's really morphed into
602
00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:14,980
something that I didn't I
didn't set out to be, you
603
00:22:14,980 --> 00:22:18,700
know, an edutainer or an
influencer at all. I
604
00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:21,880
set out to make my friends
laugh. And
605
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,440
this was the easiest way
to do it. And
606
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,740
I think as a byproduct of
that, we've ended up
607
00:22:27,740 --> 00:22:32,580
touching a nerve and yeah,
and just building a
608
00:22:32,580 --> 00:22:34,380
community. Because
sometimes I'll write one
609
00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:38,080
line that possibly is
funny, maybe, maybe not.
610
00:22:38,380 --> 00:22:40,380
And
then it comes back that
611
00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:42,720
everyone else, there are,
you know, one hundred and
612
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,240
fifty two hundred comments
where people are joined in.
613
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:47,520
Yeah,
yeah. That's
614
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,460
what I was going to
mention, basically, is every
615
00:22:49,460 --> 00:22:51,200
time I see a post that
you've done on Facebook,
616
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,040
you do have this knack
like you are also just a
617
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,980
good writer, because you
have this knack of kind of
618
00:22:55,980 --> 00:22:57,660
bringing me along on the
journey. And
619
00:22:57,660 --> 00:22:59,180
then by the time it
finishes and the punchline
620
00:22:59,180 --> 00:23:00,720
comes along and you say
what happens, I'm like,
621
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080
that's happened to me the
other day. That's
622
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,960
exactly it's very relatable.
So
623
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,100
you must get that quite a
lot like with people who
624
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:08,960
listen to you. And
I don't know, who do you
625
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,200
think your audience is
online? Because
626
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,380
like you mentioned now,
obviously, it's everyone you
627
00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:15,700
ever went to school. But
we all kind of have that
628
00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:18,240
shared memory, I suppose,
of when we're in school.
629
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,880
But
do you get a lot of
630
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,100
people I'm interested in
those people who aren't
631
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,680
teachers, maybe, who still
see your content and
632
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,380
somehow relate to it still?
Do
633
00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:28,080
you get a lot of that?
Yeah,
634
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:30,480
I get. Well,
I get a whole a whole
635
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,660
range of people who are
within sort of education
636
00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:38,000
from childminders, right the
way through to people who
637
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,640
teach in further education
universities. Yeah.
638
00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:44,640
But also there are people
who are nothing to do, but
639
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,340
they might have been on
the PTA. So
640
00:23:46,348 --> 00:23:49,720
they've had a little bit
more of a or people who
641
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:56,960
are in the police or
they're in medicine. The
642
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,020
same sort of tends to be
people who are working in
643
00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:02,720
jobs where you are people
facing where you're having
644
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,660
to be with groups of
people. You
645
00:24:05,660 --> 00:24:08,500
know that groups are able
to random stuff. So
646
00:24:08,508 --> 00:24:12,120
that's exactly what, you
know, the fact is that I
647
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:15,240
mostly talk about sort of
somebody who's between the
648
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,000
ages of five and 11, doing
so at random, whereas they
649
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,620
might actually have the
grown up first of those
650
00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:21,440
people still doing the same
random things because they
651
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,780
haven't learned that they
shouldn't believe. Tell
652
00:24:24,780 --> 00:24:27,400
me a little bit about your
glossary because I was
653
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,580
cracking up reading through
because I was just
654
00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:32,000
scrolling from your page
again, knowing that we were
655
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,140
going to have a chat. I
thought I just want to
656
00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:35,280
have a little through the
recent comments and posts
657
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,440
and your glossary of
language and vocab
658
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,320
favourite. Just
going to quiz you on a
659
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,440
couple of things if that's
all right. Or
660
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,620
quiz. So
again, like, you know,
661
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,680
maybe people listening
haven't seen this glossary
662
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,140
before and you use some
funny language such as an
663
00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:53,040
observation. What's
an observation? What
664
00:24:53,048 --> 00:24:56,460
could that be? So
an observation is one of
665
00:24:56,460 --> 00:24:59,960
two things. OK,
it's either a straight
666
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:05,280
observation, but it's done
by a knob. Yeah.
667
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,740
And we all know who those
are. Or
668
00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:12,520
it's an observation where
they say something really
669
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040
knobby. Right.
So they say something
670
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,540
that's either completely out
of your control. So
671
00:25:19,540 --> 00:25:22,160
your your, you know, your
lesson was wonderful, but
672
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,860
there was a man blowing
leaves outside your window.
673
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,580
The
children at the back
674
00:25:27,580 --> 00:25:30,340
couldn't hear. Not
my fault. Or
675
00:25:30,340 --> 00:25:32,720
they say you would have
been outstanding. But
676
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,440
did you know that two of
the children had to get
677
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,679
up, half a through a sharp
pencil? Oh,
678
00:25:38,679 --> 00:25:41,700
sorry. Yeah.
Yeah, it's it's those.
679
00:25:41,980 --> 00:25:43,460
That's
the difference. So
680
00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:45,700
no observations are two
different things, really. So
681
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:49,300
the ultimate observation
would be run, observed by
682
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,639
a knob and given no
feedbacks. And
683
00:25:52,639 --> 00:25:55,300
that that often will happen
because, you know, just
684
00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:58,420
that's the way knobs are,
really. That's
685
00:25:58,420 --> 00:26:01,900
a nob observation. Yeah,
brilliant. And
686
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:03,720
one more just to make them
as well. A
687
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,440
learning stalk. I
feel like this is the most
688
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,200
relatable to me. This
is the one when I saw it.
689
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,100
I
was like everyone is going
690
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:12,600
to like flashback. Yeah.
What's a learning stalk? So
691
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,360
a learning stalk is when
it's usually when the
692
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:19,320
schools bought something
expensive and they decide
693
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,480
that everyone needs to
implement it, but they
694
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,980
haven't got time for a
staff meeting. So
695
00:26:23,980 --> 00:26:28,480
what they do is they then
do a learning stalk, tell
696
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,360
everybody that there is an
issue with everybody and
697
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:35,080
then say, haha, but we can
solve it because we've
698
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,260
spent all this money on
this new thing, which we
699
00:26:37,260 --> 00:26:39,580
are now going to all do
all at the same time.
700
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,840
Yeah,
that's a learning. And
701
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,460
I think, I don't know,
maybe we should do a poll.
702
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,640
We
always do a poll with our
703
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,160
episodes. And
I reckon our poll should
704
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,080
be have you ever had a
learning stalk? You
705
00:26:48,088 --> 00:26:49,900
know, because I feel like,
you know, like we said,
706
00:26:50,020 --> 00:26:52,100
everyone will be like, yes,
of course I have education
707
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:55,480
is, is mental. And
we will get onto the maybe
708
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,440
the politics of that in a
bit. But
709
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,480
yeah, just again, to the
listeners, if you want to
710
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,960
go and check out, just go
to Mrs. Mrs. Facebook
711
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,000
page and find the full
glossary because it is
712
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,080
hilarious. I
was going to share some
713
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,360
more. I
want to mention one. I
714
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:07,580
want to mention where you
got another one. Simply
715
00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:09,340
because it links to today,
right? Right.
716
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,320
Because today was one of
those days where we, where
717
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,500
if you walked outside, you
would very much struggle to
718
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:15,960
walk on the straight line
because it was so windy.
719
00:27:16,460 --> 00:27:18,220
And
I know for a fact,
720
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,100
teachers up and down the
land, when they wake up
721
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,660
and step outside their
front door, if it, if the
722
00:27:22,660 --> 00:27:24,820
gusts are above a certain
you know, mile per hour,
723
00:27:24,940 --> 00:27:27,000
let's say even just 15
miles an hour, we're
724
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,340
shaking our heads, but
we're walking through our
725
00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:30,620
car like already like this
with our heads in our
726
00:27:30,620 --> 00:27:32,700
hands. Can
you explain to our
727
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:34,680
listeners out there? I
think I can't remember what
728
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,860
it was called. Maybe
you could enlighten us.
729
00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:36,620
Something
to do with the wind,
730
00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:39,420
something to do with the
wind going on. Well,
731
00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:41,960
again, you may have to
bleep this, but yes, windy
732
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,860
day wankers is what we
have. Do
733
00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:48,760
explain. When
what are you? It's
734
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,920
just, it's just people are,
they're not in control of
735
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,460
the idiocy that then
happens around a windy day.
736
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,800
So
they seem to, anything that
737
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,880
happens, bypasses their
brain. That's
738
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,120
exactly, you just know that
you are going to have
739
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:08,040
someone who has done
something utterly random and
740
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,000
completely out of the
ordinary and the only
741
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,080
explanation can be because
of the wind. Yeah.
742
00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:16,940
Why are you climbing up
the window? Oh,
743
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,520
it's windy. Right.
I actually remember like
744
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,460
really early on in my
career, someone, and I
745
00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:23,620
thought they were joking.
Someone
746
00:28:23,620 --> 00:28:26,700
did, someone was saying to
me, oh, windy day today,
747
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,240
the behavior is going to
be awful. Oh,
748
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,820
the moon. The
moon. I
749
00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:33,240
remember thinking. What
are you talking? I
750
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,280
was at NQT. I
was like, what are you on
751
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,560
about? The
moon's big. Like,
752
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,380
oh, wait, then I had my
class and I was like, the
753
00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:41,760
moon, something. Oh,
no. Yeah.
754
00:28:42,740 --> 00:28:44,880
There we are. I'm
just interested actually,
755
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,280
because I don't know how
long have you been
756
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,160
teaching? Over
35, well over 35 years. 35
757
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,720
years. That's
amazing. Incredible.
758
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:55,680
We're coming up to a
decade. That
759
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,700
feels like 35 years. Yeah.
You have no idea what 35
760
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:02,560
years are like. Yeah.
Yeah. But
761
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,540
in your just, you know,
reflecting on your 35
762
00:29:04,540 --> 00:29:07,620
years, because you haven't
had any guests before that
763
00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:10,140
have as much experience as
you in teaching. So
764
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:13,340
just reflecting on it. When
was the best bit? When
765
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:16,840
was the peak time to be a
teacher in your opinion? I
766
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,620
don't know. I
mean, I think I love doing
767
00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:20,480
it now. I
mean, after 35 years, I
768
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,920
don't think I would carry
on doing it if I did
769
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,240
really enjoy it. And
I mean, I think there are
770
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,200
things that. There
are things that shouldn't
771
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,620
have happened. There
are people who should
772
00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:32,400
never, ever have got their
fingers. Michael,
773
00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:35,260
go home looking at you on
education. Politics.
774
00:29:37,459 --> 00:29:40,480
The most most education
sectors are the gift that
775
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,040
keeps on giving anyway. I
mean, my page wouldn't be
776
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,220
have half the laughs. It
wouldn't if Julian didn't
777
00:29:45,220 --> 00:29:47,080
keep opening their mouth
and put a foot straight in
778
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,760
it. But
I think, yeah, I just I
779
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,940
think we just keep going.
It's
780
00:29:52,940 --> 00:29:54,560
the children and I keep
going with the children.
781
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,480
What
the government do around it
782
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,980
is sometimes neither here
nor there because. We
783
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:03,900
just carry on doing what
we do and and teaching is
784
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,480
a tiny part of what I do.
But
785
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200
all the other things that
go on around it are the
786
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,920
things that give me joy.
So
787
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,020
that really now. Yeah,
that's that's nice to hear.
788
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:16,340
Yeah,
I suppose I'm interested
789
00:30:16,340 --> 00:30:18,400
in. You
know, we just joked about
790
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,060
things like an observation
and learning to talk.
791
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,000
Right.
Yeah. Do
792
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,620
you feel like, let's say
even 20 years ago, as an
793
00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:28,500
arbitrary amount, but far
enough back that, you know,
794
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:30,140
not in the recent
government, not in the Tory
795
00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:33,400
government, do you feel
like observations and
796
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,520
learning stuff, those kind
of things? Do
797
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,580
you think they've always
been a problem or do you
798
00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:39,500
feel like that is part of,
you know, the result of
799
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,840
having people like Michael
Gove and just rubbish
800
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,100
governments coming in and
changing change in the
801
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:46,160
game? But
yeah, I mean, I think
802
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,060
there should always be
accountability. So
803
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:49,620
everyone should be
accountable and everyone
804
00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:51,440
should be doing their job
to the best of their
805
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,620
ability. I
mean, that's absolutely. You
806
00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:56,000
won't. You
want quality first teaching.
807
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,520
In
front of children all the
808
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,920
time. But
I think sometimes something,
809
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:05,500
some things are done like
observations, like learning
810
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,680
stocks in order to tick a
box. So
811
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,840
if you're just going into
classes to say, yes, I
812
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,260
have observed someone,
that's a pointless activity.
813
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,180
If
you're going into a
814
00:31:16,180 --> 00:31:19,480
classroom having had a
conversation with a fellow
815
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,840
professional and you say to
them, what would you like
816
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,900
me to look at in your
teaching and then together
817
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:30,640
we can learn what we need
to do next and where your
818
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,740
CPD can come? Then
that that's fine. And
819
00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:36,240
I think that's the
difference. I
820
00:31:36,248 --> 00:31:39,420
think the difference has
gone from carrying on our
821
00:31:39,420 --> 00:31:44,340
professional education by
giving us observations and
822
00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:48,460
feedback to ticking a box.
That's
823
00:31:48,460 --> 00:31:51,640
the difference. Yeah,
I can't help but agree. I
824
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,040
know only I've only been
in 10 years, but I've
825
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,500
worked in different schools.
And
826
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,920
I think what you're saying
is right in terms of we
827
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,620
do have some control over
it because having worked in
828
00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:02,360
different schools, it's done
so differently. There's
829
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,540
not one way that every
school in the country does
830
00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:06,180
things. So
clearly there's there are
831
00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:08,400
individuals inside of
schools rather than just
832
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,400
whole government systems
that are, you know,
833
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,140
accountable for this kind
of thing. But
834
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:14,900
what I'm really interested
to get your opinion on is,
835
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,640
especially in the context
of the last few years, is
836
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,820
the role of Ofsted as
well, because I know Ofsted
837
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:21,660
and the Department for
Education aren't necessarily
838
00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:24,780
always singing off the same
page and one can kind of
839
00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:26,420
bat it off to the other
as to a reason why
840
00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:29,340
something's happening. But
the reason the recent kind
841
00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:31,680
of, oh, we're doing a big
lesson and we have a new
842
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,280
person in charge and we're
going to be here for
843
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,260
change. And
do you buy it? Do
844
00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:38,100
you think that it is going
to reform? Do
845
00:32:38,108 --> 00:32:39,640
you think it needs to
reform? Because
846
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,320
I agree, we need to hold
teachers accountable, but is
847
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,480
the current way working in
your opinion? What
848
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,440
have you seen the form
they want people to fill
849
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,480
in? I've
not clicked on it because
850
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,340
I've just stepped away from
it, honestly. It's
851
00:32:51,340 --> 00:32:54,300
astonishingly badly worded
and it's also the questions
852
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,500
are. There's
a bias. There
853
00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:00,660
are boxes for you to write
in, and I think people are
854
00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:04,420
writing in them. And
I think that possibly
855
00:33:04,420 --> 00:33:07,440
towards the top, people
have thought they needed to
856
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,200
be a change and they are
prepared to listen. But
857
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,660
I don't actually think
they're going to be able
858
00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:18,640
to cope with the volume of
answers if they whether
859
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,520
they're actually able to
change as much as they
860
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,900
really need to. Yeah.
How. OK,
861
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,720
I'm sure you thought about
this. What
862
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,480
would there be something
you would change straight
863
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,140
away if you could? Would
there be something you'd
864
00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:31,180
been off? Would
you be a way of just
865
00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:32,560
that? You
know, this guy stepped in
866
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,600
now. If
you could have a direct
867
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,320
line to him and say, look,
change this. Is
868
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,980
there one thing you'd put
out there and say, OK,
869
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,640
look, I think we should be
doing that instead. But
870
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,320
I think I don't know
whether you have come
871
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,260
across challenge partners in
the way that challenge
872
00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:47,180
partners. So
I've not had in detail.
873
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,220
OK,
so well, challenge partners
874
00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:51,180
is just as it is rigorous.
It's
875
00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:53,860
just as rigorous that you
are held to account in the
876
00:33:53,860 --> 00:33:56,840
same way. But
it's done with a school
877
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,080
and not to a school. And
I think that's the big
878
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,000
difference. So
with challenge partners, you
879
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,040
know, they come in and
observe, observe, observe
880
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,420
lessons. They
come and talk to members
881
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:10,920
of staff and you are asked
to discuss the curriculum.
882
00:34:11,139 --> 00:34:13,199
It's
exactly the same in that
883
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,500
respect. But
it is done in a supportive
884
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,320
way. So
you are told what is good.
885
00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:20,420
You
are told what needs to be
886
00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:25,760
improved and and how you
can do that and how people
887
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,239
will work alongside you in
order for that to happen.
888
00:34:28,659 --> 00:34:30,280
So
there isn't the same sort
889
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,840
of off a cliff edge. If
there's an issue. Yeah,
890
00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:37,219
that's really cool, because
we've we've actually done
891
00:34:37,219 --> 00:34:40,000
an episode before on off
-stead and reforming off
892
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,360
-stead. And
we kind of came to the
893
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,699
exact same conclusion. Our
opinion is very similar in
894
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:45,400
that we can't get rid of
it. We
895
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,080
can't have any like no
accountability. It
896
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,159
just doesn't work. I
don't think anyone really
897
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,540
thinks that education is
too important to not have
898
00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:53,780
any. Yeah,
yeah, but absolutely it
899
00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:56,179
needs to be a better, more
holistic approach. It's
900
00:34:56,179 --> 00:34:58,020
got to we've got to be
tackling this support, like
901
00:34:58,020 --> 00:34:59,640
you said, like you just
said, right there, it's the
902
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,020
support because at the
minute it's off -stead
903
00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:03,560
coming in and saying,
that's not good enough. See
904
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,040
you soon. And
then oh, right. Thank
905
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,540
you. Just
you could ruin a career in
906
00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:09,840
that. And
you know, and it might not
907
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,200
be good enough, but you're
absolutely right. If
908
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,200
it's not good enough,
actually, if you really
909
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,560
truly care about the kids
and their outcomes, if it's
910
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,940
not good enough, then you
don't leave afterwards. You
911
00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:19,480
stay and you sort it out
with them. So
912
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,260
I completely agree with
you. Yeah,
913
00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:23,660
yeah. I
want to reflect on just
914
00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:25,400
another another funny thing
on your face, but there's
915
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,540
very much link to this
because I was reading them
916
00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:28,800
the other day. You
sent me actually all of
917
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,920
them to look through and
it was the your dear
918
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,040
Gillian series. Again,
like there's no point means
919
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,940
sitting here, reading them
all out, but people won't
920
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:39,960
go and check them out. But
can you just give me a
921
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,980
bit of insight? Like
what made you start doing
922
00:35:41,980 --> 00:35:44,680
your dear Gillian series?
OK,
923
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,680
OK, what what were you
trying to get across in
924
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,360
them? Because
obviously, they're very
925
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,800
sarcastic and very funny.
So
926
00:35:48,808 --> 00:35:50,500
to be fair, it was D.
Gavin
927
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:54,500
to begin with. Yeah,
it started with D. Gavin,
928
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:57,280
because really, honestly, he
did need a lot of support
929
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,900
to understand. Because
he wasn't selling any
930
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,220
fireplaces. What
he said he had to come in
931
00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:04,740
education. He
needed a bit more support.
932
00:36:05,540 --> 00:36:07,440
So
it started with him really,
933
00:36:07,780 --> 00:36:11,860
because I just got so fed
up with the fact that he
934
00:36:11,860 --> 00:36:16,440
obviously had absolutely no
idea what he was doing.
935
00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:19,980
And
the issue is a number of
936
00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:24,760
those people in those
offices never have been in
937
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,300
a school unless they were
seven, eight or nine. And
938
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:32,020
if they had gone to very
few of them have been to
939
00:36:32,020 --> 00:36:33,760
state school, so lots of
them have been to prep
940
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,040
school. So
their view of what
941
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,020
education is is skewed in
a particular way. And
942
00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:45,300
I just thought I thought I
needed to explain to them,
943
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,060
probably in words of not
more than one syllable,
944
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:53,340
often with pictures, exactly
how it was going to affect
945
00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:56,960
the other members of staff
and the children, because
946
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,260
the children that they that
we are working with are a
947
00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:05,040
whole different cohort than
the children that either
948
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,700
they have been to school
with or their children go
949
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,880
to school with. Yeah,
the spectrum is different.
950
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:14,300
It's
just a matter of a bit of
951
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:18,600
support. And
also, they do utterly
952
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,260
ridiculous things. Someone
needs to call them out.
953
00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:25,120
And
it might be recently. Who
954
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,800
was it recently that was
said they were pun? Oh,
955
00:37:26,820 --> 00:37:27,540
it was Jiddy and Keegan.
It
956
00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:28,680
was Jiddy and Keegan. You
must have seen that clip
957
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,400
with Jiddy and Keegan,
where after a year and a
958
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,220
half of teacher striking
and talking about how
959
00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:33,480
offside is not working.
Yeah,
960
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,720
she managed to go on stage
and say, I was in a
961
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,740
school. I
was in a school the other
962
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:40,260
day and I was speaking to
her teacher and I was
963
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:42,320
really shocked because they
told me that the offset
964
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,400
inspector was really rude.
Unless
965
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,560
me thinking shocked that.
OK,
966
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,540
anyway, and then she
carried on and said, yeah,
967
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,760
if it was me, I would
have punched him in the
968
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,800
face. Thanks
for that. That's
969
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,360
a great solution. I
could teach our kids that.
970
00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:57,060
Absolutely.
Well, the trouble is, you
971
00:37:57,060 --> 00:37:58,940
see, that's what we've
ended up with today, isn't
972
00:37:58,940 --> 00:38:00,200
it? We've
ended up within the news
973
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,780
today. One
in five teachers saying
974
00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:07,780
that they have been hit or
had the, you know, they've
975
00:38:07,780 --> 00:38:09,500
been physical violence
against them. So
976
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:12,080
thank you, Gillian. That's
another one tick off for
977
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,480
you. What
can we just stand that for
978
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,040
one second, Hayden? I
know we're going to go
979
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,200
into politics very quickly.
But
980
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,060
that really did pique my
interest when you mentioned
981
00:38:19,060 --> 00:38:21,220
that because I did see
that it was a survey. It
982
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:22,420
was a teacher tap survey.
I
983
00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:23,600
think that they got that
from. And
984
00:38:23,607 --> 00:38:26,940
one in five teachers saying
they've been physically
985
00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:28,900
abused. There
were some crazy numbers in
986
00:38:28,900 --> 00:38:31,120
there about seeing children
fighting, seeing fights
987
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,260
going on. It
seems to be more and more
988
00:38:33,260 --> 00:38:35,420
prevalent. Do
you have an opinion on why
989
00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:37,220
that might be like today?
I
990
00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:38,960
know we've talked about it,
jokes about Gillian saying
991
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,920
that kind of thing, but
that rhetoric isn't. I
992
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,360
don't think this government
are careful with their
993
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,980
rhetoric, let's say. I
don't think they necessarily
994
00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:46,680
watch what they're what
they're kind of
995
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,660
demonstrating. But
what do you think is
996
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,840
causing that? Because
it's a really big problem
997
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,760
in that retention that
we're talking about. Why
998
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,160
would we bother staying if
we're getting a fact? Do
999
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,720
you know I really don't
know. I
1000
00:38:57,727 --> 00:39:01,120
think there's I think there
are lots of things that
1001
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,200
are have added to it. So
you've got children who are
1002
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,740
in a great deal of need.
So
1003
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:11,880
you've got children who are
hungry, children who are
1004
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,380
living in houses that are
not fit for purpose, or
1005
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:19,220
they are overcrowded. You've
got children who are
1006
00:39:19,220 --> 00:39:22,760
waiting and have waited,
maybe up to two years for
1007
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,120
a CAMHS assessment. You've
got families who are in
1008
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,300
crisis. You've
got what's left over after
1009
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,900
covid. Yeah,
I mean, I think there's a
1010
00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:34,980
million and one things. But
a lot of the things are
1011
00:39:34,980 --> 00:39:37,820
not what has happened to
change. It's
1012
00:39:37,820 --> 00:39:40,240
what has not happened
that's caused the issue.
1013
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Yeah,
big time. Good
1014
00:39:42,687 --> 00:39:44,140
point. Leading
on to politics then,
1015
00:39:44,220 --> 00:39:45,260
Hayden. Yeah,
well, you got a little
1016
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:47,020
game I heard. I've
got a little game for you.
1017
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:48,380
I
thought you might want to
1018
00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:51,020
play along with it. Because
you've got something to
1019
00:39:51,020 --> 00:39:52,980
say, I think about
politics. You
1020
00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:54,520
inspired me with your
content and I thought I'd
1021
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,320
make a little game. True
or false? True
1022
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,200
or false game? There's
four statements. You've
1023
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,180
got to say true or false.
Oh,
1024
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,060
it's tricky, really tricky
stuff. All
1025
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:04,060
based on the government and
their involvement in
1026
00:40:04,060 --> 00:40:06,020
education. And
there's a link between the
1027
00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:07,740
four questions. And
if you can get the link
1028
00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:10,820
at the end and you win
the mega prize, we'll send
1029
00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:14,260
you a new bucket with
certain words. Yeah,
1030
00:40:14,340 --> 00:40:16,180
so here's the first one.
Ready?
1031
00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:18,020
So true or false, please.
Under
1032
00:40:18,020 --> 00:40:20,740
conservative leadership,
teacher morale and retention
1033
00:40:20,740 --> 00:40:23,760
rates have significantly
improved due to effective
1034
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,940
policies and support. Oh,
let me think about that
1035
00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:29,360
one. I
think that might be false.
1036
00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:32,620
Correct.
How did you know? That's
1037
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:34,960
fantastic. Wow.
Wow, one for one. They
1038
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,300
get harder. Next
one. The
1039
00:40:37,308 --> 00:40:39,280
conservative government's
handling of school funding
1040
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,480
has led to adequate
resources and infrastructures
1041
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,520
for all schools across the
UK. And,
1042
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,020
hey, as someone who had to
get a meter stick
1043
00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:49,320
underneath her cabinet the
other day to try and find
1044
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,940
pencils, I would have to
say false. Wow,
1045
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,300
you had a meter stick.
Mine
1046
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:56,900
went years ago. That
wasn't true. And
1047
00:40:56,900 --> 00:41:00,940
pencils to find. That's
two for two. Two
1048
00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:02,380
more questions, two more
statements. The
1049
00:41:02,380 --> 00:41:04,720
conservative government's
management of student debt
1050
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,000
and tuition fees has made
higher education more
1051
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,100
accessible and affordable
for all. Ah,
1052
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,580
right. Well,
as a parent of two
1053
00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:13,800
children who've recently
been through university, I
1054
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,920
would definitely say that
it's false. Wow.
1055
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,700
In fact, I saw the highest
student debt at the moment
1056
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:24,940
in the UK is over ��200
,000. What,
1057
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:26,540
one person? Yeah,
one person. And
1058
00:41:26,548 --> 00:41:28,840
I was like, oh, I forgot
we became America. I
1059
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,440
can't wait for a healthcare
system to fill that way as
1060
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,360
well. Anyway,
well done. Great.
1061
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:34,120
That's doing fantastic. It's
a hard place. It's
1062
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,620
the last one and then
maybe you can get the link
1063
00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:36,800
at the end of it. I
mean, it's such a good
1064
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,120
government. I
don't understand the words.
1065
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:38,920
It's
crazy. It's
1066
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,640
crazy. The
last one, the UK
1067
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,500
conservative government
successfully implemented
1068
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,820
their comprehensive plan to
address the educational
1069
00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:48,940
attainment gaps between
richer and poorer students.
1070
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,880
False.
Without. I
1071
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,920
mean, we're laughing, but
we're going to cry in a
1072
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,080
minute. Can
you get the link? I
1073
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,680
think the link might be
that revolving door in the
1074
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,460
Department for Education,
where no one knows, you
1075
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:07,440
know, the left hand doesn't
know what their right hand
1076
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,379
is doing. It's
the clean person. Yes,
1077
00:42:11,379 --> 00:42:12,460
absolutely. Well
done. We
1078
00:42:12,468 --> 00:42:14,380
succeeded in the game. Well
done. Well
1079
00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:15,700
done. Really
tricky. Well
1080
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:18,120
done. Yeah.
You do get you get a
1081
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,300
sticker. We'll
send you one of the posts.
1082
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,480
It
is windy, so I might get
1083
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,940
lost in front of it. I
don't see serious questions.
1084
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,860
Bring
it back down to earth.
1085
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:24,860
It's
really cool. Down
1086
00:42:24,860 --> 00:42:26,180
to earth. OK,
no, no, no, no, that's it.
1087
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:26,900
We're
serious. OK,
1088
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:27,920
we're moving on. Yeah,
go on. The
1089
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,340
games are open. I
can teach you. You
1090
00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:31,520
know, when you make a joke
in the class and then you
1091
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,600
realize you've gone too far
and they're a bit like
1092
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,700
unruly and then you think
I've got to reign this in
1093
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:37,360
and you instantly switch.
Oh,
1094
00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:38,260
no, no, no, no. Jokes
over. Um,
1095
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,780
guys, no. You've
got to understand when I've
1096
00:42:40,780 --> 00:42:43,000
stopped joking. We're
moving on. It's
1097
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,880
so mean, isn't it? Anyway,
sorry. Do
1098
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,240
you think that if Labour
get in in the next
1099
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:52,960
election, do you think they
will do a better job? I
1100
00:42:52,968 --> 00:42:54,720
don't. Do
you know it's that's really
1101
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,800
hard because I don't have
read any of what their
1102
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,180
policies are properly for
education. I
1103
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:01,900
mean, they can't do a
worst job, can they? Not
1104
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,880
sure they properly exist
yet. No.
1105
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,200
So I don't think they can
do any worse. Yeah,
1106
00:43:07,220 --> 00:43:09,420
because I've always been,
I'll be true, for the
1107
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:12,080
honest, I think I'm more
anti this government than
1108
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,060
pro anything else. That's
my current my current
1109
00:43:14,060 --> 00:43:16,160
stance. And
I'm very much for, you
1110
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,060
know, I think as teachers,
the reason the majority of
1111
00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:21,500
us are not conservative
voters is because
1112
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:23,580
traditionally we're there to
help people and we're there
1113
00:43:23,580 --> 00:43:24,540
to help the less fortunate.
I
1114
00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:25,960
mean, when I put our arm
around them and make sure
1115
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,140
they get a good education
and everyone gets everything
1116
00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:31,380
they deserve. But
yeah, I don't know. I'm
1117
00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:33,840
a bit not worried, but I'm
not inspired. And
1118
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,120
you mentioned that you've
not seen any of their of
1119
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,780
their policies yet. And
I don't think there are
1120
00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:39,500
many. I
think what Labour are doing
1121
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,820
at the minute, and this is
down to the awfulness of
1122
00:43:41,820 --> 00:43:44,680
the government, is they're
kind of just saying, oh,
1123
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,560
we'll just wait then
because they know what's
1124
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,900
going to happen. No
one's going to go and vote
1125
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:49,600
for them. So
I don't know what happened.
1126
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,080
I
don't know. I
1127
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,180
actually saw a headline
right before we started
1128
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:55,360
recording. I
was looking at my phone
1129
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,620
and I don't know much
about it. I
1130
00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:59,420
just saw the headline that
was something to do with
1131
00:43:59,420 --> 00:44:02,580
Labour saying that they
will scrap the whole 30
1132
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:05,060
days free childcare thing
that the Tories are
1133
00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:06,620
bringing out because they
just don't think it's the
1134
00:44:06,620 --> 00:44:09,540
right model. And
I saw 30 days, 30 hours,
1135
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,480
sorry, a week of the free
childcare for the younger
1136
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,900
children, going to nursing.
And
1137
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:15,160
I just saw just underneath.
I
1138
00:44:15,167 --> 00:44:16,620
was thinking, well, that's
going to cause backlash.
1139
00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:17,860
Could
have been propaganda. I
1140
00:44:17,860 --> 00:44:19,280
don't know. But
you know, we just think,
1141
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,000
yeah, actually, I don't
really know what. I
1142
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,300
don't really know what
Labour's all about at the
1143
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:24,120
moment. I
don't know if they're going
1144
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,100
to be any better or not.
Yeah,
1145
00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:27,460
it's an awkward one.
Anyway,
1146
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,480
moving on away from
politics, I think. Because
1147
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,620
we've talked enough about
that. Back
1148
00:44:31,620 --> 00:44:33,520
to you, Mr Smith, because
a lot of people I think
1149
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,540
have come here to listen
to you and find out a bit
1150
00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:36,780
more about you. I
would just say really
1151
00:44:36,780 --> 00:44:39,500
quickly before I go on to
a new topic. We
1152
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,140
did, you did put out a
post for us. I
1153
00:44:41,147 --> 00:44:43,460
really appreciate this on
Facebook saying. Lots
1154
00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:45,860
of likes. Lots
of likes. Lots
1155
00:44:45,860 --> 00:44:48,640
of fans saying, hey, I'm
going on a podcast, check
1156
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,980
it out, guys. Ask
me some questions and I'll
1157
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:51,920
answer on the podcast.
Well,
1158
00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:54,640
we had one. We
had one comment and I'm
1159
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,380
going to read it exactly
word for word to you. And
1160
00:44:57,380 --> 00:44:59,200
you can you can interpret
what you think this means.
1161
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,620
It
just said, when do we eat?
1162
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,280
Well,
I think it's I think it
1163
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,240
might be because it's a
play on your your podcast,
1164
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,500
how to teach sleep with
me. And
1165
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:13,880
I think you eat whenever
you can find the time. So
1166
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,660
I think it's usually
lunchtime. Yeah.
1167
00:45:16,820 --> 00:45:19,380
And when you're trying to
mark with one hand, sort
1168
00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:22,960
out some behaviourally with
another hand, go to the
1169
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,500
photocopper and hope that
there's no queue. So,
1170
00:45:25,580 --> 00:45:28,000
yeah, I'm more important.
It's
1171
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,020
when when do you have a
way is the more important
1172
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:33,100
thing? Yeah,
we change our podcast name.
1173
00:45:33,740 --> 00:45:34,800
Do
you sleep? We
1174
00:45:34,808 --> 00:45:37,320
repeat when you can in
brackets at the bottom.
1175
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,460
Yeah,
yeah, fantastic. I
1176
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:40,720
want to know what kind of
teacher you are, because I
1177
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,780
feel like there's one or
two. You're
1178
00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:45,280
either a teacher who is
adamant that at lunchtime.
1179
00:45:45,460 --> 00:45:46,980
No,
it's my lunchtime. I
1180
00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:49,260
will take some time. I'm
going to matter how busy I
1181
00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:50,260
am. I'll
eat my lunch. I'll
1182
00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:53,380
have 40 minutes, sit there
or you're a teacher that
1183
00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:55,500
never leaves their room,
Mike Dillon, and we'll just
1184
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,640
eat their lunch as they're
marking with the idea if
1185
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,300
I'm going to go home with
it earlier. What
1186
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:01,620
kind of you? I'm
actually a combination of
1187
00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:03,620
the two. So
I tend to. So
1188
00:46:03,620 --> 00:46:09,460
we get from 12, 15 to 10
past one, sort of ish. So
1189
00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:14,060
I tend to work until about
five to one, and then I'll
1190
00:46:14,060 --> 00:46:16,620
go and have that last 15
minutes. And
1191
00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:19,000
I'll find I'll leave my
room and go and eat
1192
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,280
somewhere else, whether
that's the staff room or
1193
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,800
someone else's classroom or
whatever. But
1194
00:46:22,808 --> 00:46:27,380
I or your cupboard. Yeah.
Too much rubbish in my
1195
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:29,680
cupboard in order for me
to get in there. I
1196
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,160
tend to do. But
I will make a conscious
1197
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,080
effort to leave my room,
because otherwise I'm
1198
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,960
probably have stayed in
there over break or during
1199
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,600
assembly if I haven't had
to go into assembly.
1200
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,540
Otherwise,
I don't actually see the
1201
00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:45,320
light of day, really. Yeah.
Isn't it mad that my
1202
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,660
natural reaction to you
saying that you make sure
1203
00:46:47,660 --> 00:46:50,460
you get 15 minutes is
like, well done. Well
1204
00:46:50,460 --> 00:46:52,020
done. That's
really good. Terrible.
1205
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,420
It's objectively terrible.
Yeah,
1206
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:55,940
you just don't take breaks
as teachers. Yeah.
1207
00:46:56,020 --> 00:46:58,020
And I think that there is
something in sort of in
1208
00:46:58,020 --> 00:47:02,980
the the Human Rights Act
that you really should.
1209
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:03,920
You're
supposed to be able to
1210
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,480
have some sort of break,
can't you? And
1211
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,180
even health and safety work
at your space to have some
1212
00:47:08,180 --> 00:47:11,100
some break. But,
you know, 15 minutes. I
1213
00:47:11,107 --> 00:47:13,440
feel like you just think
of the kids. Think
1214
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,820
of the children. That's
what everyone said. Don't
1215
00:47:15,820 --> 00:47:17,000
just think of the kids.
Why
1216
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,500
are you doing that? It's
culture, isn't it? I
1217
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:22,300
feel like we do club. Just
thinking of the kids. All
1218
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:23,580
right. All
right. But
1219
00:47:23,580 --> 00:47:25,200
teacher culture is like
that, isn't it? Leave
1220
00:47:25,207 --> 00:47:28,040
him alone. Yeah.
Yeah. Listen,
1221
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,680
I'm going to have to guess
like one person on the
1222
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,240
club. Him.
Yeah, brilliant. Oh,
1223
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,360
man. Anyway,
so what I wanted him to
1224
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,920
want to, I just got
sidetracked. No,
1225
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:38,540
no, no, no. You're
in a club, mate. I'm
1226
00:47:38,540 --> 00:47:39,680
not doing a club. I'm
going to finish off. I'm
1227
00:47:39,687 --> 00:47:42,220
not doing a club. What
I wanted him to want to
1228
00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:43,300
was just a bit more about
you. I
1229
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:44,260
want to bring it back
around to you because
1230
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:46,620
you've been doing some
shows recently. And
1231
00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:48,940
I love to just I don't
know much about it. I've
1232
00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:50,600
seen your Facebook posts.
So
1233
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,840
could you just enlighten us
a bit? You
1234
00:47:51,848 --> 00:47:54,040
know, what's going on with
these shows? What's
1235
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,900
your aim with them? What,
you know, what are you up
1236
00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:58,200
to? But
I mean, you know, in the
1237
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,720
same way that I said, I
sort of started, I did
1238
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,020
actually start doing Mrs.
Smith
1239
00:48:03,028 --> 00:48:06,760
by accident. I
actually started to do
1240
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,240
stand up by accident. I
happened to have got an
1241
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:16,180
agent get me for my
writing because I thought
1242
00:48:16,180 --> 00:48:18,200
the whole idea might be a
good idea to try and write
1243
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,120
a book or whatever. Sure.
But the agent that I have
1244
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:28,120
actually is an agent for
comedians who are mostly
1245
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,940
stand up comedians. And
in the summer, 20, 23,
1246
00:48:32,540 --> 00:48:35,540
they happened to have space
at the Adrin Refrestival.
1247
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,320
They
had a venue. They
1248
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,060
had somewhere that we could
stay. And
1249
00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:43,480
they said, do you fancy
doing the Mrs. Smith
1250
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,940
shows? And
I thought, well, I'm 58.
1251
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,240
No
one's going to ask me that
1252
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:53,840
question ever again. So
I'll say yes. So
1253
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,440
I was then I had four
shows, 45 minute shows of
1254
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,980
stand up at the
Eddifrestival. The
1255
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:08,160
first time I ever stood up
was on the stage at
1256
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,480
Edinburgh. Don't
do that. I
1257
00:49:10,488 --> 00:49:13,040
mean, you know, really,
that's unbelievable. You're
1258
00:49:13,048 --> 00:49:15,600
never going to do it.
Don't.
1259
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:20,280
And they'd all sold out
beforehand, obviously,
1260
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,820
because people either wanted
to see me crash and burn,
1261
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,120
which was a serious
possibility. Or
1262
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,640
they wanted just to see
who I was because we
1263
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,560
called it Mrs. Smith,
see me. And
1264
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:39,420
actually, it worked for 45
minutes. And
1265
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:41,760
then I did a show last
week. So
1266
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,440
now I'm going to take that
show on tour. For
1267
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,920
sure. So
I'm doing I've done a
1268
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,060
couple of shows in South
of London. And
1269
00:49:52,060 --> 00:49:56,180
the one I did the other
week, I did the 45 minute
1270
00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:58,280
Edinburgh show. And
then I did another 30
1271
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,480
minutes, which was like
work in progress because
1272
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,160
I'm the show that I'm then
going to take around East
1273
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,720
Anglia is going to be an
hour long. So
1274
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,420
I just wanted to work out
what I was going to do in
1275
00:50:07,420 --> 00:50:09,660
there. But
honestly, if you can stand
1276
00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:14,940
up for, I don't know, six
hours a day in front of
1277
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:17,920
eight, nine, 10 year olds
who really don't want to
1278
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,940
be there, who aren't
interested in some of them
1279
00:50:19,940 --> 00:50:20,980
in listening what you want
to do. And
1280
00:50:20,980 --> 00:50:22,860
some of them will actively
try and stop you from
1281
00:50:22,860 --> 00:50:25,680
doing it. You
can deal with a room full
1282
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,500
of people who've chosen to
be there with a couple of
1283
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:29,900
beers on board with paid
money, you know? I
1284
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:32,060
mean, yeah, you made it
sound easy. I
1285
00:50:32,067 --> 00:50:34,640
mean, you need your props
for that. I
1286
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,260
don't think I could do it.
Genuinely,
1287
00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:37,940
I think I've done an
amazing job. You
1288
00:50:37,940 --> 00:50:41,420
couldn't. Yeah.
He's presumably I don't
1289
00:50:41,420 --> 00:50:42,340
like it. He
could. He'd
1290
00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:45,760
be great. Yeah.
But I was going to say
1291
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,540
for everybody, but I really
really doing it. So.
1292
00:50:49,420 --> 00:50:51,560
Yes. Yeah,
no, it's not. And
1293
00:50:51,567 --> 00:50:54,340
I think what I was going
to ask you is, have you
1294
00:50:54,340 --> 00:50:57,400
had a heckler yet because
we deal with hecklers every
1295
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,940
day in our job, like
multiple times every like
1296
00:50:59,940 --> 00:51:01,520
two minutes, we have a
heckler. Have
1297
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,340
you had one yet? And
if not, do you kind of
1298
00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:06,020
want one? Do
you kind of want one or
1299
00:51:06,020 --> 00:51:07,480
do you not? Are
you a comedian who's not
1300
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,080
going to want anyone
shouting? Well,
1301
00:51:09,260 --> 00:51:12,080
I do say the start of my
show don't. And
1302
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,600
I say it with my teacher
voice. If
1303
00:51:13,607 --> 00:51:18,080
you're going to heckle,
don't. And
1304
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,720
so far, they haven't. So
that's fine. If
1305
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:25,680
they do. I
haven't told anybody in the
1306
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,880
past 35 years, exactly what
I think about them when
1307
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,520
they stopped me from
teaching. So
1308
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,880
by all means, do it
because you're going to get
1309
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,360
both barrels. Not
in the classroom anymore,
1310
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,400
Mrs. Smith.
No, I don't have to filter
1311
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,460
my thought about you being
silly. He's
1312
00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:44,880
talking to you, by the
way. I'm
1313
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,520
the heckler. It'll
be me. I'm
1314
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,800
going to come and make
sure my make sure you see
1315
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,940
my bald head and you're
like, it's that guy. I
1316
00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:53,980
want to be podcast. Yeah,
I can't see the after
1317
00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:55,160
about the first three rows.
I
1318
00:51:55,167 --> 00:51:58,460
can't see anybody, which is
really glorious. Anytime
1319
00:51:58,460 --> 00:52:00,980
you get heckled, just guess
and you go podcast crap,
1320
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,480
mate. And
just say that. Brilliant.
1321
00:52:04,620 --> 00:52:06,720
Well, I don't know, like,
you know, make you reveal
1322
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,900
all of you, all of your
good material, but would
1323
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:11,580
you would you mind sharing
a story with some or just
1324
00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:14,760
something from I don't have
to be from your standard,
1325
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:16,760
from your standard, but
just something funny because
1326
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,020
you've got so many funny
stories to share every day
1327
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:21,400
on Facebook. I'd
love to hear a bit of
1328
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,580
Mrs. Smith.
Don't think something. I
1329
00:52:24,587 --> 00:52:25,700
don't need to my standard.
Oh,
1330
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,000
well, I mean, it's just
the things that kids say
1331
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,180
to me all day long. I
mean, the other day, I
1332
00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:33,100
mean, I was genuinely
walking and all right, I'll
1333
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:34,600
tell you what, I will tell
you. We
1334
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,320
talked about me to say
earlier, didn't we? So
1335
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,780
we spoke about me to six
and I would never trust
1336
00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:44,880
anybody who if you left
them alone in a room with
1337
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,780
a couple of meter six,
didn't either pretend to
1338
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:51,220
sword fight or use them as
lightsabers with the sound.
1339
00:52:53,279 --> 00:52:55,780
So
I am again, I'm quite
1340
00:52:55,780 --> 00:52:57,320
that's fine. I
haven't got a problem with
1341
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,520
that. If
that's what that's what
1342
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,960
people want to do, that's
what they want to do. I
1343
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,340
did once have a child who
left the classroom, went to
1344
00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:06,080
go get something, you know,
perfectly, legitimately,
1345
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,200
legitimately went to go and
do something. Came
1346
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:17,120
back having found four
meter sticks and they skied
1347
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,100
across the back of my
classroom. What,
1348
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:23,320
two on the feet? Yeah,
two on the feet, two on
1349
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,380
the feet poles, across the
classroom. And
1350
00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:31,080
I just looked at them and
said, were you better ski
1351
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,340
back out again? So
someone opened the door and
1352
00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:37,100
they just skied back out.
I
1353
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:39,460
love that you carry on the
skiing. The
1354
00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:41,900
idea of them like going to
pick them up and stop
1355
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:43,280
walking. And
you're like, no, no, no,
1356
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,140
no, you've skied in. You're
going to ski out again.
1357
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,160
Yeah,
that's brilliant. I
1358
00:53:48,167 --> 00:53:49,640
mean, there's something
special. I
1359
00:53:49,647 --> 00:53:52,460
mean, Dylan's reveling,
taking the mick out of me
1360
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:55,980
in long episodes ago,
because last year when I
1361
00:53:55,980 --> 00:53:58,320
was losing my mind a bit,
I've got one of those
1362
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,760
meter sticks, the ones that
are like hollow, really,
1363
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,040
they're not just the wide
ones. We
1364
00:54:02,048 --> 00:54:03,460
can actually draw like
draw. Yeah,
1365
00:54:03,460 --> 00:54:04,840
they're just the ones for
hollow. And
1366
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,400
I and I used it. I
reckon I can one up the
1367
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,760
meter stick. You
see, I was using it as a
1368
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,220
pretend blow dart in maths.
And
1369
00:54:12,220 --> 00:54:15,160
this is I was really
losing it this year. And
1370
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,980
what the game was this,
the children will sit at
1371
00:54:17,980 --> 00:54:20,020
their desks and I want to
expect their timetables,
1372
00:54:20,140 --> 00:54:21,780
they wouldn't. They
were very reluctant to do
1373
00:54:21,780 --> 00:54:23,560
that. And
so what happened was they
1374
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,560
were in the jungle. I
was a hunter and I'd blow
1375
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,600
dart them with my pretend
blow dart. And
1376
00:54:29,607 --> 00:54:32,840
if they didn't answer the
time stable question within
1377
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,920
five seconds, they had to
pass out on the table. He
1378
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,560
did lose his job, is you
wondering? Yeah,
1379
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:40,000
he's not teacher anymore.
Oh,
1380
00:54:40,060 --> 00:54:42,420
man, I look at that. That
is mad. That
1381
00:54:42,420 --> 00:54:44,040
was mad at the time. I
was like, no, it's just
1382
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,120
what gets me to entertain.
But
1383
00:54:46,127 --> 00:54:48,740
maybe it was a bit mad.
So
1384
00:54:48,740 --> 00:54:50,580
there you go. Don't
use that in your stand up.
1385
00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:52,160
No,
no, no. She
1386
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,960
wouldn't. Don't
worry, mate. Well,
1387
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,780
it might be as an example
of what not to do,
1388
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,740
actually. Yeah,
yeah. How
1389
00:55:00,740 --> 00:55:03,040
not to use the meter. I
was talking to this
1390
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,840
unfortunate guy. He
was telling me all about
1391
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,380
his meter stick. Oh,
my gosh. Right.
1392
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,260
That is unbelievable. I
am I love. I'm
1393
00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:13,880
going to say one more time
to everyone who's listening.
1394
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,380
If
they haven't found your
1395
00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:18,420
Facebook page, they simply
have to. Because
1396
00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:20,800
I don't know. I've
heard of you. I'm
1397
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,160
not going to lie. I
didn't follow you for a
1398
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,560
long time, but I heard of
you a long time ago. And
1399
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,680
I knew of Mrs. Smith
and I knew you shared
1400
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,000
these things on Facebook.
And
1401
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,860
every time I go into your
page, I feel like I can
1402
00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:31,940
sit there. Honestly,
about 20 minutes, just
1403
00:55:31,940 --> 00:55:33,820
scrolling, scrolling,
scrolling. Do
1404
00:55:33,820 --> 00:55:37,320
you ever get a writer's
block or anything like
1405
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,820
that, like creative block?
Because
1406
00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:41,840
obviously you teach that
takes a lot of mind scope.
1407
00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:43,420
I
mean, I feel like I can't
1408
00:55:43,420 --> 00:55:45,100
really do anything after I
was taught for a day.
1409
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:45,960
Never
mind. Sit
1410
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:46,880
there and be with you.
Does
1411
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,080
it come naturally to you?
Or
1412
00:55:48,087 --> 00:55:50,160
because you seem to post
nearly every day. And
1413
00:55:50,167 --> 00:55:52,060
is it just there you go?
It's
1414
00:55:52,060 --> 00:55:53,120
just what I want to say.
Or
1415
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,560
do you have to sit and
really think about it
1416
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,540
sometimes? No,
it's a deliberate choice of
1417
00:55:58,540 --> 00:56:00,580
on my part to post every
single day. So
1418
00:56:00,580 --> 00:56:02,760
every single day for the
past six and a half, seven
1419
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,860
years, I have posted
something every single day.
1420
00:56:05,660 --> 00:56:06,820
And
that's partly to sort of
1421
00:56:06,820 --> 00:56:08,340
exercise my writing muscle.
So
1422
00:56:08,340 --> 00:56:13,840
I do that. And
I do I leave myself voice
1423
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,740
notes. So
I do make a voice note or
1424
00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:19,740
I leave and put a note on
my phone when something
1425
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:22,400
sort of catches my
attention. I
1426
00:56:22,408 --> 00:56:24,700
mean, I mean, you might
not believe it, but
1427
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:26,200
actually, I can be quite
quiet sometimes. And
1428
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,160
I'm, you know, those
people, the quiet ones are
1429
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,400
the worst. So
I'm the one who's
1430
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,680
listening. I'll
listen in to a child's
1431
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,780
conversation or I'll listen
in to what adults are
1432
00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:37,400
saying. And
I just hear things and
1433
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,360
I'll just make a note of
that. And
1434
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,820
everything that I write is
true. It's
1435
00:56:42,820 --> 00:56:44,320
happened at some point in
time. I
1436
00:56:44,328 --> 00:56:47,880
don't make things up. But
I tend to have a little
1437
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,920
bank of things. And
then, of course, you know,
1438
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,860
Julian will do something.
And
1439
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:54,620
I tend to write letters to
Julian at the weekend
1440
00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:57,080
because I need sort of the
venom needs to be stored
1441
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,840
up a bit. So
that's what I tend to do
1442
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,860
it like that. No,
I don't touch wood at the
1443
00:57:05,860 --> 00:57:07,680
moment. I
don't. But
1444
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,339
then I think people's funny
bones are different. And
1445
00:57:11,339 --> 00:57:15,640
I mean, I've always been
quite of I've always been.
1446
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,660
I
like words and I think I
1447
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:22,100
use words quite well. And
I sort of put them
1448
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,360
together and it seems to
work for me. I
1449
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,180
mean, and that's and I
know that's really annoying
1450
00:57:26,180 --> 00:57:28,620
because, you know, it's
like kids, then I can't do
1451
00:57:28,620 --> 00:57:29,740
math or I can do math.
And
1452
00:57:29,747 --> 00:57:33,400
it can do funny, I think.
You
1453
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,720
can. If
you're waiting for a
1454
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,480
conversation, you can do
something. Sorry,
1455
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,180
sorry. I
mean, that's. I
1456
00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:41,680
can't see funny. Just
thinking about that. I
1457
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,800
think I probably can do.
Yeah,
1458
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,000
no. I
was just thinking, do I
1459
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,660
would deal and ask earlier
about your class knowing
1460
00:57:47,660 --> 00:57:48,800
whether you do this kind
of stuff? And
1461
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,880
obviously they don't really,
hopefully not. Do
1462
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,400
the people at your school
know? Like,
1463
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,000
does everyone? Do
you have to do a teacher
1464
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,080
know? Does
everyone kind of know this?
1465
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:57,460
Or
do you just walk around
1466
00:57:57,460 --> 00:57:59,000
like Batman? Like
no one knows? No,
1467
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:04,500
no, my most of the staff
in my school. Yeah,
1468
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,200
most do. I
don't tell them. Other
1469
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,780
people sometimes tell them,
did you know this is what
1470
00:58:08,780 --> 00:58:12,100
she does? Yeah,
my head knows, has always
1471
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:15,460
known as and also the
chair of governance. And
1472
00:58:15,460 --> 00:58:17,440
they're quite happy with
it. And
1473
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,720
I think they're happy with
it because. I
1474
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,440
the children are never the
butt of the joke. So
1475
00:58:23,448 --> 00:58:27,300
yeah, the children are the
most important thing. And
1476
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:29,600
I met that really clear.
The
1477
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,540
people who are the butt of
the joke, or tends to be
1478
00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:34,060
the adults who've responded
to what the children have
1479
00:58:34,060 --> 00:58:36,420
done in a particular way,
or if children have done
1480
00:58:36,420 --> 00:58:40,020
something, it tends to be.
I
1481
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:42,060
don't know, like the other
time when I was saying to
1482
00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,520
a child, why are you
cartwheeling down? Why
1483
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,000
are you doing forward rolls
down the corridor? Because
1484
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,220
last time you told me I
couldn't car wheel. And
1485
00:58:50,220 --> 00:58:53,200
that was where I had said,
I'll go down the corridor.
1486
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,440
So
they then thought, well,
1487
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,880
that's all right, I can do
a forward roll. It
1488
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,040
was nice that we thought I
should have said something
1489
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,620
different in the way I had
asked him. But
1490
00:59:03,620 --> 00:59:09,120
that question reflected on
me and not on them. Yeah,
1491
00:59:09,580 --> 00:59:11,240
I think because of those
stories, they're like, you
1492
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,640
know, the way you write,
it does something quite
1493
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,800
cool, in my opinion. When
someone asked me what your
1494
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,420
page is about, I'll just I
generally say it's like
1495
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:21,340
brutal realism of education
for a start. And
1496
00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:23,240
I think you know, the fact
that you've confirmed that
1497
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,420
it's all true. I
think that's part of the
1498
00:59:25,420 --> 00:59:27,940
reason it's successful,
because it is actually just
1499
00:59:27,940 --> 00:59:31,000
real. But
but you also because you
1500
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,060
post every day and it's
usually, you know, something
1501
00:59:34,060 --> 00:59:36,500
silly that's happened or
whatever, you kind of
1502
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:38,860
accidentally also, I don't
know if accidentally or
1503
00:59:38,860 --> 00:59:41,180
not, but show how teaching
is actually a really great
1504
00:59:41,180 --> 00:59:44,360
job as well in terms of
every day is different. You
1505
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,200
can have a laugh every
day, even if the powers
1506
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,760
that be just make the
trying to make the job as
1507
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,460
terrible as possible. And
I think kind of captures
1508
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:55,340
what I really like about
your page. And
1509
00:59:55,340 --> 00:59:58,380
I imagine what the other
70 ,000 people that follow
1510
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:00,980
you like about your page
as well. Yeah,
1511
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,540
I mean, someone said to me
the other day, and I
1512
01:00:02,540 --> 01:00:05,300
hadn't really thought about
it actually because they
1513
01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:07,720
had and they come to the
show and they were talking
1514
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,300
to me afterwards and they
said, actually, the page is
1515
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:16,060
about being funny, but the
page is also about people's
1516
01:00:16,060 --> 01:00:18,880
mental health because, you
know, the bucket that we
1517
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:26,000
have on a Friday. Shall
I say? But
1518
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,420
it's also about and I
didn't really think about
1519
01:00:29,420 --> 01:00:31,840
this. But
she said to me, it's about
1520
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,140
ending the week and
beginning the weekend and
1521
01:00:35,140 --> 01:00:38,200
getting rid of that and
giving yourself free time
1522
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,040
and mental space and
everything else. So
1523
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,620
I think that's that has
happened accidentally. I
1524
01:00:43,620 --> 01:00:45,400
haven't I haven't
constructed that in any
1525
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,000
particular way. So,
yeah, I think that's also
1526
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,080
why it works really. No,
it's fantastic. I
1527
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,620
just wanted to finish Mrs.
Smith
1528
01:00:53,620 --> 01:00:56,460
on my favorite story that
I read from Facebook
1529
01:00:56,460 --> 01:00:58,800
recently. So
what will end here? But
1530
01:00:58,808 --> 01:01:00,580
this this story, I've got
to tell it because
1531
01:01:00,580 --> 01:01:02,760
honestly, I sat there
cracking up and because I
1532
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,220
thought it was really it
started off really
1533
01:01:04,220 --> 01:01:05,920
heartwarming and the end is
really funny. So
1534
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,460
it was just a post you
did. You'll
1535
01:01:07,460 --> 01:01:09,660
remember as soon as I
start saying it. It
1536
01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:12,880
was about children always
come back once you've
1537
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,180
taught them. They
always come back and say
1538
01:01:14,180 --> 01:01:16,200
hello and say, you are,
you know, when I come and
1539
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,500
see you like one of your
one of your colleagues
1540
01:01:18,500 --> 01:01:20,380
said, what said to the
children? Wow.
1541
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,420
I mean, you must really
like Mrs. Smith,
1542
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:24,460
keep coming back to often.
They
1543
01:01:24,460 --> 01:01:27,240
just responded and said, I
guess so. I
1544
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:32,279
was just checking if she
was still alive. It
1545
01:01:32,279 --> 01:01:35,020
just grabbed me up and I
thought that that's teaching
1546
01:01:35,020 --> 01:01:36,780
right there. You
know, you have made a
1547
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:38,400
really good bond with those
kids. It's
1548
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,320
amazing for us when they
come back and see us, you
1549
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,340
know, we laugh and joke
about teaching. We
1550
01:01:42,348 --> 01:01:45,960
moan, we cry, whatever, but
we love the kids, why we
1551
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,600
do it. And
guess what? Not
1552
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,040
only is it lovely, but
it's funny as well. And
1553
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,600
I think your page, Mrs.
Smith,
1554
01:01:51,780 --> 01:01:54,040
I just want to finish off
by saying it just sums
1555
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,800
everything up. And
we're really big fans of
1556
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,640
yours and we really
appreciate your time. Yeah,
1557
01:01:57,660 --> 01:01:59,940
thanks so much. Obviously,
it's it's my pleasure,
1558
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:02,440
entirely my pleasure. I've
enjoyed it. Thank
1559
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,500
you. Well,
I hope you enjoy the
1560
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:07,260
Easter holidays. Have
a lovely break and yeah,
1561
01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:10,600
plenty of I swear, then I
can't say it. Go
1562
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,120
check out the page. We
went this far. Yeah,
1563
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,760
I'm nearly there. I
was about to use some of
1564
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,360
your glossary terms, which
I will not. So
1565
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,160
let's look at this. Thanks
so much. Thank
1566
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:19,360
you.
00:00:00,979 --> 00:00:02,760
This is a public service
announcement. This
2
00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:04,920
episode of Teach Stupid
Pete does not include a
3
00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,320
video. So
if you're looking to see
4
00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,920
Hayden's bald head or
Dylan's red face, you won't
5
00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,420
be able to this week.
Hayden,
6
00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,180
I'm trying to do a thing.
Trying
7
00:00:12,180 --> 00:00:13,640
to do a thing where I
sound like one of those,
8
00:00:13,660 --> 00:00:15,680
you know, movie people at
the start of a channel.
9
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Oh,
okay. Well,
10
00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,140
you know, I'll record it
next time. Do
11
00:00:19,140 --> 00:00:20,640
you want to do it again?
No.
12
00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,540
Oh, I'll have to use that
one. I've
13
00:00:22,548 --> 00:00:24,280
done it. Yeah,
we are. I'm
14
00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,200
going to use this as well,
this whole conversation. Are
15
00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,620
you not going to tell the
people that the reason
16
00:00:27,620 --> 00:00:28,820
we're not filming is
because we've got Mrs.
17
00:00:28,940 --> 00:00:31,160
Smith?
I was going to. You
18
00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,380
into I was going to talk
about Mrs. Smith
19
00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:35,480
and her anonymity because
she's so funny on Facebook
20
00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:37,380
and she's got so many
people who follow her but
21
00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:38,680
don't know what she looks
like and she's maintained
22
00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,320
it for years. Come
on, our podcast and talk
23
00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,440
to us. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. OK.
24
00:00:42,620 --> 00:00:43,360
All right. Fair
enough. OK.
25
00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,860
Well, we've got time. So
we'll use we'll just use
26
00:00:45,860 --> 00:00:47,100
that one. All
right, let's use that to
27
00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:48,640
the. Skip
the intro. Skip
28
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the intro. Yeah.
No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
29
00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,300
I'm
just going to do my voice
30
00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:56,460
again. Here's
the intro. Hello,
31
00:00:56,700 --> 00:00:57,500
everyone. I
go back to another episode
32
00:00:57,500 --> 00:01:00,260
of Teach Stupid Pete. My
name is Dylan and my name
33
00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:03,520
is I'm ill again. Yeah,
it's I'm ill again, man.
34
00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,420
Nice
to see you. I'm
35
00:01:04,420 --> 00:01:06,660
ill again, man. How
are you? I'm
36
00:01:06,660 --> 00:01:07,700
ill, actually. I
don't know if I've
37
00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:10,140
mentioned. Yeah,
I do know why. I
38
00:01:10,148 --> 00:01:13,260
think in the last eight
episodes, I have been like
39
00:01:13,260 --> 00:01:16,260
properly ill for like at
least three of them. What
40
00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:18,280
is wrong with that? Sorry,
did you say eight or 80?
41
00:01:18,820 --> 00:01:20,740
Because
I don't I'm I'm I'm
42
00:01:20,740 --> 00:01:23,680
getting this sense of you
run on 10 percent the
43
00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,280
whole time that you're
alive. If
44
00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,140
we go if we go to back
80, I reckon I've been ill
45
00:01:27,140 --> 00:01:28,840
at least 30. So
I keep keep up the ratio,
46
00:01:28,980 --> 00:01:30,940
you know. What's
wrong with me? I
47
00:01:30,940 --> 00:01:36,120
just catch everything. Oh,
you're welcome, guys. Yeah,
48
00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,460
it does just stand out,
though, because you were
49
00:01:38,460 --> 00:01:41,400
the one person who during
covid always constantly
50
00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,640
wanted to tell everyone you
ever saw. Because
51
00:01:43,648 --> 00:01:45,200
when I was with you all
the time, I've never got
52
00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,820
it. I've
never got it out of the
53
00:01:46,820 --> 00:01:47,940
way. And
you were just in the
54
00:01:47,940 --> 00:01:49,160
middle of coughing because
you got something else.
55
00:01:49,900 --> 00:01:51,380
Yeah,
yeah, I didn't have covid,
56
00:01:51,460 --> 00:01:53,240
though. And
I don't have it now. Yeah.
57
00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,240
All right. All
right. Yeah.
58
00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,140
Well, well, I believe that
never, let's say. How's
59
00:01:59,140 --> 00:02:01,180
your week been? Although
gone. I
60
00:02:01,180 --> 00:02:03,940
can't smell. So
yeah. Oh,
61
00:02:03,980 --> 00:02:06,520
it's not covid. Covid.
Covid. Do
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you have the number one
symptom of covid? Yes.
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OK. Weirdest
sense. I'm
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going to talk about for a
second. Weirdest
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sensation. Never
had this before. I
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know, but a lot of people
with covid were talking
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about not being able to
taste things and smell. But
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I have absolutely zero
percent smell now. Like
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you genuinely cannot smell
anything. It's
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mad. And
I did the ultimate. I
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did two ultimate tests. You
know, I hate cheese, right?
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Absolutely.
Just cheese is disgusting.
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You
didn't eat some cheese. No,
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I didn't eat it. I
mean, that's mad. That's
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an excellent. But
I did, you know, you know,
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like if you've got cheese,
I can smell it and it
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just puts me up with food,
like even in the next
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room. Yeah.
I went up to a bag, a
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bag of cheese from the
fridge. And
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I went up to a bag of
cheese. I'm
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sorry. I
had a little word. It
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sounds like it's something.
It
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sounds like it's some kind
of bany like in a video
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game. I
went up to a bag of
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cheese. Just
didn't look at all that.
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Smoking
a cigarette, looking,
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looking hard. That's
exactly what I did. And
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I thought, well, this would
this will test my nostrils.
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And
I put my face into the
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bag of cheese and I took
in the biggest inhale and
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I smelled nothing. And
I thought, OK, there is
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something wrong with my
nose. As
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it's been linked to your
taste then, have you
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noticed like taste has
changed? Because
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yeah, like isn't smelling
taste completely linked or
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something? But
my taste has gone down to
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like 20, 30 percent. I
can I can sort of taste
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stuff, but it's really,
really mild. Like
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everything tastes a bit
like cardboard. Yeah,
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very, very strange. So
not having the best time.
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I
did want to say, though,
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you know, because yesterday
we're on our second week
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now of halftime and we're
recording this on the last,
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technically the last day of
halftime, which is the
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Friday before we go back
on Monday. And
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yesterday I had a fantastic
day. When
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I went for a lovely walk
with three babies, you
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know, the three girls went
out, my Lauren, your
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Lauren, Amy, me and Jack,
my mate, we went out and
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and it was just it was
just bloody lovely. And
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I was just wanting to say
that there's something about
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a group of five where if
there was just one extra
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person in that group, I
don't know who could have
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been. But
if there was just one
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extra person who came with
us, the whole dynamic would
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have shifted. It
would have been awful. But
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such a good day. What
did you do yesterday? Well,
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I was actually really
looking forward to I was
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going to go out with my
mates. There
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was a group of five
friends, some of us were
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kids and we were going to
go out. But
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I couldn't because I was
poorly. Well,
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annoyingly, I wasn't as
poorly. I
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felt fine yesterday, but I
was still very snosy. So
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I don't want to affect
everybody just in case. God
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damn, so annoying. Well,
those five friends happened
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to be me involved in. Oh,
it was and you stayed at
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home and did nothing. And
I think I think it was. I
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need everyone to know at
home that you missed out
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because that was bloody
lovely walk. And
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it do you know what? It
is linked to something I
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was going to say. So
I was just I was just
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contemplating. I
was just thinking back over
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my my week because whenever
we do this podcast, we
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always think we need to
chat about what we've been
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doing basically when we
have a little I don't know
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what to call it the start
when we go into our detail
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of our lives. Oh,
yeah, the boring bit when
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no one listens to we're
going to do that bit. And
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I don't know. I
saw a reel the other day
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by this guy called Charlie.
He's
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the teacher's health coach
and he's doing a lot of
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reels and content at the
minute. And
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it really got me thinking
because he was talking
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about the difference between
self care and self
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soothing. And
I think he really hit the
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nail on the head because
he said a lot of the
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traditional ways of looking
after yourself. It's
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actually not self care.
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self soothing. It's
like almost putting a
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plaster on and hoping that
you feel better. And
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things that come under self
soothing would be, you
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know, having a bubble bath,
lighting a candle, you
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know, sitting down and
relax that kind of thing.
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his argument was no, no,
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self care is more
important. And
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you can't call that stuff
self care. Self
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care is forcing yourself to
go out on the walk when
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you don't want to. And
you end up feeling better
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after self care is forcing
yourself to reply to that
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email you've been putting
off and no longer is
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lingering over you. And
I just thought that is
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such a good point because
that walk I went on
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yesterday, I was looking
forward to having a walk
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for everyone, you know,
jokes aside, you too, you
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couldn't make it. But
that was a really nice
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thing I was looking forward
to. But
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I found in this half term,
there's been a few days
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where like, Rory's been
unsettled and we've had to
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go out and I was like,
right, I'm going to take
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him for a walk. And
I've ended up going on a
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two hour walk. And
to be honest, I probably
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would have rather just
stayed in and watched my
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latest show on telly or,
you know, had a lovely
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bath or had all these self
soothing things. But
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do you know what made me
feel better than anything
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was actually coming back
from that two hour walk in
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the brisk, you know,
weather, the sunshine, the
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wind in my face. I
ended up feeling better
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after and I just I don't
know, this this idea of
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self care versus self
soothing. Where
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do you sit on there? Do
you tend to do more self
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care or more self soothing?
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it seems like self soothing
is what's promoted, but not
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necessarily always what's
actually best for you.
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Well,
does it count? So
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last night, for example, I
don't know if this is self
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care. Last
night, I ordered 20 chicken
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nuggets. And
I only but I only ate
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like 12 of them. Does
that does that count as
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self care or is that more
like self soothing? I
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think that couldn't be more
self soothing. Yeah,
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yeah, because I know that's
good for you, I suppose.
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Yeah.
Yeah. And
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it's easy to just order
some chicken nuggets and
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eat them. And
that's hilarious because
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isn't it well annoying when
you want some chicken
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nuggets and they only do
obviously six, nine and 20.
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it's like, well, I want
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more than nine. Yeah,
I want 12. 12. So
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do you buy two sixes? No,
because it costs more than
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buying 20. So
you had that with just 20
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chicken nuggets. And
they had a deal on last
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night. So
it was like five pounds
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for 20 nuggets. I
was like, yes, I'll be
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I'll be taking that please.
Thank
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you. And
even though they already
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taste like cardboard, I
don't know why I ever get
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them. I
get them about once a year
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to remind myself that they
just taste rank. They
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already taste like
cardboard. And
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then they tasted more like
cardboard last night because
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I can't taste very well.
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it was a complete waste of
money and time and
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calories. Have
you tried eating some
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cardboard? Apparently
they taste like chicken
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nuggets. So
I might do it. Why
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it might work like that.
It
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all seriousness, though. We
don't like the I do like
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the whole self care, self
super. I've
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never heard that before,
but it can be, you know,
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when someone says something,
you're like, oh, that
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completely just makes sense
immediately. Of
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course, of course, there's
a massive difference between
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actually caring for yourself
and just soothing, you
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know, make yourself feel
better. That
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can make complete sense. I
probably do a lot of
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soothing and think that I'm
looking after myself. I'm
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notoriously terrible at self
care. I
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just I don't know. I
don't know what it is
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about you, but I just have
such a mental block. Any
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self care. I'm
like, ah, it's waste of
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time. I've
got other stuff to do. I'm
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so bad. I
don't know if it's like a
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classic, like stereotypical
male culture thing. Or
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if it's just me, I don't
know. I
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think it's about both
because the impression I
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got from this, which is
what I'm going to take
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away from it. And
it's just a short reel.
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It's
crazy how sometimes just a
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short reel really, really
makes you think, doesn't
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it? But
what I took away from this
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was that self care isn't
actually easy. It's
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not an easy thing to do.
Self
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soothing is quite an easy
thing to do. Anyone
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can go and like candle,
anyone can sit in a bath,
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you know. But
yeah, that isn't actually
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getting to the root of
many of your problems. It
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might feel good at the
time. And
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don't get me wrong. It's
nice to put a nice candle
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on and actually relax for
a minute. But
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that doesn't actually solve
any of the problems you're
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actually trying to get away
from. Because
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usually when you do that,
it's because, oh, gosh, I'm
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just putting off this work
I've got to do, putting on
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this conversation I want to
have. I
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need to sort out the
laundry. I
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need to go and actually go
downstairs and the kitchen
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needs tidying. All
of that self soothing
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doesn't actually solve any
of the issues that are
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probably driving your
anxiety. So
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what does self care look
like as a teacher? I
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don't know. I
think self care for a
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teacher. It
is answering those emails,
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you know, as soon as you
get them. I
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found my personal life has
like as a teacher in
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school has felt much better
when I bit the bullet and
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done small jobs. And
again, this was something
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someone else said. I
don't know who it was, but
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it really stuck by me. And
I struggled to do it in
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my personal life. But
I do think I tend to do
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it in my school life more
now. I'm
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not perfect, but I do it
more. And
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it's a very simple rule.
If
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something takes five minutes
or less, do it immediately.
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It's
a very, very simple rule.
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So,
you know, for example, we
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get emailed every week by
our deputy head to pick
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our learner of the week
and it will be pick your
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learner of the week, pick
your reader of the week
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and just put a quick
explanation as to why. And
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that genuinely takes two
minutes to fill out that
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form. And
for a long time at the
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start of this year, I
would just see that come
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through and I'd be like,
I'll call that takes two
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minutes. I
can do that whenever that
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would be my attitude. And
you know what would happen?
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I'd
never do it. I'd
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miss the car off and my
class would go into
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assembly. Everyone
would be getting their
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certificates. And
I think this is brilliant
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for my deputy head to be
honest. It's
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on me. He
say, oh, I didn't get it
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in time. You
know, and then and then
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that's the only says on me
because my class would come
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back to me and go, um,
where's the class? Where's
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the learner of the week?
And
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I'd even have to do it
late or I'd have to say,
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I'm sorry. And
I'd have to face the class
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that way. But
it takes two minutes to
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do. So
now as soon as that email
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comes through, I do it
immediately. And
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now the deputy head makes
a joke that I'm the first
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to do it every single
week. And
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and do you know why?
Because
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it takes less than five
minutes. And
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I know it self care might
be a bit dramatic to say
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that's good for myself. But
I think it's a
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representation of what self
care actually looks like as
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a teacher. It's
those small jobs. Just
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do them. I
think I think as a
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teacher, self care is
extremely linked to work.
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Workload
and work life balance.
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Isn't
it really we've talked? I'm
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not going to talk about it
because we talked about it
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a million times in this
podcast going to listen to
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previous episodes. If
you'd like to hear more
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about workload, we've got
episodes on it. But
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yeah, self care as a
teacher is being strict
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with work life balance. I
think it's probably number
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one way for self care.
Anyway,
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moving on, um, I've got
I've got a little story. I
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want to share with you if
that's all right, because I
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thought that didn't want
the best time to do it in
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this episode is because
we're going to be talking
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to Mrs. Smith
soon. And,
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um, and I really wanted to
share this story this week.
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So
you might remember a couple
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of weeks ago, I had that
story about a child in my
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car thinking that a baby
cow is called a milf. If
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you listen to this, if you
want to go back and listen
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to that, it was hilarious.
They
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didn't they didn't see a
picture of a baby car for
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go out to milk. I
genuinely thought the name
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of a baby cow was a milf.
I
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think they got milk and
car confused or whatever.
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But
it was hilarious because
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they didn't know what milk
was. And
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I'm glad. Anyway,
so I was telling that
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story to a friend of mine,
Mr. Wilman,
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who we've had a couple of
stories on that we talked
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about the fact that he
writes books and things
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last week. So
I was chatting to him the
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other day, just catching
up. And,
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um, and he said that he
listens to that story and
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it reminded him of this
story. And
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I'm going to read out to
you what he wrote to me
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now. So
he said the other day when
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I was at a school teaching
music, I didn't know the
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kids because he's doing
cover supply. So
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I started with a game of
how many instruments can
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you name? Started
with the obvious ones like
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guitar and piano. And
once we'd been around the
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whole class, it just got a
bit trickier. And
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then one kid was like, Oh,
I know one. A
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bong. And
he was like, Oh, sorry,
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what? Sorry?
He said, yeah, yeah, a
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bong was laughing. And,
um, and he was trying to
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think of obviously what he
meant and also trying to
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move the conversation away
from, you know, getting
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high. It's
not really appropriate in a
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primary school thinking, OK,
he's clearly, you know, I
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don't know these kids. We
must be thinking that, you
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know, having me on or
whatever. And
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then, and then the kid,
you know, persisted with
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bong and was like, no, no,
yeah, you know, those loud
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things that you hit a
bong. And
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he was like, Oh, a gong.
Oh,
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Christ. Yeah,
a gong. OK,
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a gong. Just
really made me laugh. That
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is that kids like treating
music instruments like
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they're Pokemon. They
can just say their name.
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So
they can do what sounds
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make bong. Yeah,
yeah, at least at least it
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was close. Oh,
let's play the two. Love
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how it's. So
thanks to the thanks for
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the story about and just a
quick plug. If
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you have any stories you're
listening to a teacher or
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not teacher, I don't know.
And
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you've got a funny story
you'd like to share and
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please do write into us,
because firstly, it makes
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us laugh and we love
laughing. And
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secondly, we might even
share it on the podcast
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and make everybody else
laugh of your story. Dylan,
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where can people find us
and how do they like to
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us? Get
ours on Instagram at teach,
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sleep, repeat podcast. I'm
loving Instagram at the
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minute. I'm
loving it. So
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I absolutely, actually,
absolutely. That's
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actually an absolutely into
one there. I
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absolutely love it when
people mess just on
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Instagram. I
genuinely, I don't know
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what it is. I
get a little buzz because
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number one, people are just
so kind. There
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is something about people
saying what you're doing is
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great. I
love the fact I found your
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podcast. It's
really funny, blah, blah,
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00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:08,380
blah. We
honestly hate and you don't
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see it as much as I do.
It
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just rolls in. It's
genuinely it makes this all
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worthwhile for me. Anyway,
for you, you're here
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because I force you to.
But
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if just getting touch on
on Instagram and followers
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on Instagram, that's the
place to be. I
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try and do stories as much
as possible to get some
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interaction. I'll
do some polls that are
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funny. I'll
do some polls that are
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genuine when I'm trying to
get some information from
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you guys that help us feed
the podcast, etc. And
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yeah, I don't know. I
don't know how much you
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actually pay attention to
our podcast, to our
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Instagram story, Hayden, but
I'm also entering the world
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now of trying to make some
reels that aren't just, you
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know, those those crappy
little green screen memes
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that I've been making that
somehow hit and get like
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millions of views because,
OK, cool. I'll
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do that for a bit, so we
keep ticking over. But
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I've been trying to do
some real life memes as
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well. I
don't know if you've seen
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any of them. I've
seen. I've
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seen. Yeah,
I have. I've
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seen. Yes,
cool. I
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like them. I
think they're funny. Oh,
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I thought you were going
to put you're going to rip
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me a bit there. I
was getting ready to be
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funny in a bad way. The
idiot. But
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yeah, once you get over
that initial almost like
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awkwardness of, oh, I'm
doing a meme and it's me.
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They're
actually really funny. Once
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you accept that they're
completely cringe, it's
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fine. Yeah,
because you just kind of
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you've accepted that they're
horrible. And
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you're leaning into comedy.
Yeah,
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it's meant to be funny. So
that's fine. If
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if I was doing really
serious reels, but I was
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also being idiot, it might
be a bit more like that
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guy that cries, really
cries on the arm. And
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I won't go to it. What
the actor, you know, you
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mentioned it now. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,340
yeah, yeah, yeah. I
can't remember his name,
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though. So
I would call him out
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because I find his videos
really funny. He
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pretends to be people just
buy it all the time. They
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think he's acting for real
and he's just not. He's
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just over the top. Right.
Hey, Dan, we are coming
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towards the end of our
little chat here. Is
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there anything else you
wanted to mention before we
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introduce our esteemed guest
this week? No,
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no, no. Let's
get into it. Let's
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talk to the wonderful Mrs.
Smith.
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Guys, if you haven't
checked out Mrs. Smith,
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you can find her on
Facebook. I'm
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sure I mentioned it a
million times in this
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conversation that we had a
couple of weeks ago, as
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you'll soon find out at
the start of this chat,
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right at the beginning, in
fact, right at the end of
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the term, the school term.
So,
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yeah, let's talk to Mrs.
Smith
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00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,720
and it's a blast. It's
a great conversation. So
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I hope you enjoy it, guys.
Hello,
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Mrs. Smith,
welcome to the podcast. How
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are you? I'm
fine. Thank
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you very much. Especially
as it's now the end of
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term. So
I'm good to go. You
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got a beer and that's it.
Well,
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absolutely. So
just for context, because
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this will probably come out
in a couple of weeks. We
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are recording this on the
last day of term, right
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before the Easter holidays.
Is
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anyone else feeling
terrible? Like
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ill? I
feel like an illness going
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round. I
feel so gunky. Yeah,
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how are you feeling, Mrs.
Smith?
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So I presume you've been
at work today? Yeah,
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I feel fine, actually. I'm
not going to say whether I
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have or haven't avoided
things, because that's
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always a kiss of death.
But
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yeah, I feel at the
moment, this moment in
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time, I feel perfectly
fine. Thank
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you very much. Oh,
brilliant. Well,
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thanks so much for going
on the part. We
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have been fans of your
Facebook page for ages, as
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a lot of people have. I'm
sure a lot of people
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listening right now have
come from your Facebook
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page. So
we really appreciate you
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coming here. Sorry
to a technical glitch for
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everyone listening, because
the camera's not working
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for Mrs. Smith,
so I'm afraid. I'm
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afraid you can't see her,
which is a real shame. I
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know that's what you all
came for. Yeah.
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So tell us very quickly,
who we go into a bit
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about you. What
have you got planned for
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the Easter holidays? Are
you going to rest? I'm
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going to rest for the
first bit, but for the
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second half, I'm actually
on tour, which is a bit
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weird for me, really. So
I'm going to East Anglia
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and I'm doing, well, I'm
doing one show in the
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south of London and then
I'm going to East Anglia
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and I'm doing eight shows.
I'm
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doing four days. We
need to talk about that.
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We
need to talk about this in
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different places. Yeah.
And then but each show,
503
00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:54,860
because they sold out so
quickly, I'm having to
504
00:17:54,860 --> 00:17:57,660
double up. Just
slip that in there. I
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00:17:57,668 --> 00:17:59,560
love that. I
love that. Oh,
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00:17:59,660 --> 00:18:02,820
you know, I'm so popular
guys. I
507
00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:04,840
need to talk about this
because obviously we talked
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about your Facebook page
briefing. The
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00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,820
reason it's so popular and
why we love it is because
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we like to have a laugh
and your humour is just
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00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:14,340
so, so on point. And
these these shows you're
512
00:18:14,340 --> 00:18:15,640
doing, they stand up,
right? So
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do you do you have kind
of a crossover? Do
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you talk about school a
lot? Is
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it about life in general?
Like,
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what's the kind of thing
you actually discuss when
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you're doing your show? Oh,
it's it's it's really much,
518
00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:28,340
very much education based
to stand up. So
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00:18:28,340 --> 00:18:32,480
it's all stories about
schools, not stories about
520
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,720
kids, it's stories about
schools and what it's like
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00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,080
to be in school. Probably
mostly aimed at people who
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00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,840
might have everyone's been
to school. So,
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you know, for the most
part. So
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it's either if you've been
at school, if you're in
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school now, if you're I
mean, not kids, obviously,
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adults, if you're in school
as an adult now, that's
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really what it's for.
Certainly
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wouldn't bring anybody under
the age of 18. Certainly
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no one at all. Yeah,
your ex pupils turning up.
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Oh,
this one's not about you.
531
00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:05,580
But
it's fine. You
532
00:19:05,580 --> 00:19:08,260
just don't tell them. Well,
you know, for the listeners
533
00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:10,400
that maybe don't know who
you are, you know, haven't
534
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,360
checked out your Facebook
page yet. Maybe
535
00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:13,540
you could just give us a
bit of background on
536
00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:15,460
yourself. So
I'd like to know, you
537
00:19:15,460 --> 00:19:17,340
know, what even made you
start that Facebook page in
538
00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:19,640
the first place? Because
it's, you know, a lot of
539
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,120
people find it extremely
funny now. But
540
00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:24,060
when did that begin? Oh,
I think a bit. Well,
541
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,219
I started writing bits and
pieces. And
542
00:19:29,219 --> 00:19:31,780
I've always written so, but
I started writing bits and
543
00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:35,160
pieces that were about
school and I shared them
544
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,060
with some friends and
actually wrote them down in
545
00:19:37,060 --> 00:19:39,120
a notebook and shared them
with them. And
546
00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:42,820
they said, can I give
these to my friends to
547
00:19:42,820 --> 00:19:43,860
read? I
thought, I'm not copying
548
00:19:43,860 --> 00:19:45,540
that out. You
know, I'm only six times,
549
00:19:45,620 --> 00:19:47,380
so you can show it to
your mates. And
550
00:19:47,380 --> 00:19:49,860
then I thought what I
would do was write. Then
551
00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:52,520
I'd try to send it to
them electronically, but
552
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,340
teachers aren't that good
with zip files sometimes.
553
00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:57,900
So
then I decided, well, I
554
00:19:57,900 --> 00:19:59,980
would write a blog and
that was just a bit
555
00:19:59,980 --> 00:20:01,620
clunky. And
then no one could ever
556
00:20:01,620 --> 00:20:03,800
find them. And
then I realized that, you
557
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,640
know, women of a certain
age are all on Facebook.
558
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,680
So
that's where I needed
559
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,480
really to put the page.
And
560
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,500
I discovered that I could
create one that was
561
00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:15,800
anonymous, you know, with a
false name, but, you know,
562
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,580
play the game. So
I did that. Yeah.
563
00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:22,840
And I wrote one post about
the school holidays that
564
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,060
went completely and utterly
viral. I
565
00:20:25,068 --> 00:20:27,580
mean, a million views. And
you remember that post? I
566
00:20:27,588 --> 00:20:30,900
went from having, I think,
something like 50 followers
567
00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:36,060
who were my mates at
school to thousands. When
568
00:20:36,060 --> 00:20:38,640
was that? Was
that like, were we talking
569
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,660
years ago? I
suppose about six or seven
570
00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:45,740
years ago. Six
or seven years ago. And
571
00:20:45,740 --> 00:20:49,200
it sort of poodles along
and then it sort of
572
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,040
exponentially grew. I
suppose that, you know, a
573
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,600
friendship with the friends
you should. Yeah.
574
00:20:52,660 --> 00:20:55,060
And then that it's just
gone to where it is now.
575
00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:56,960
Well,
the time of recording this,
576
00:20:57,060 --> 00:20:59,720
you're approaching 70 ,000
followers on Facebook, which
577
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,400
is really, really
impressive. So
578
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,160
a lot of people interacting
and only my class knew. So
579
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,840
I wanted to ask this, do
they have no idea? Because
580
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,080
Hayden and I, we dabbled
in, we made some YouTube
581
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,200
videos, some like, but it's
more like walkthroughs on
582
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,780
how to do certain questions
and, you know, help is
583
00:21:17,780 --> 00:21:21,000
teaching, basically. And
our class very much know
584
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,960
about that and know that
exists. So
585
00:21:22,968 --> 00:21:25,680
the your class is very
much more adult rated. So
586
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,020
it's a bit more of a
problem, maybe, if they
587
00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:30,200
find out. Is
there any kind of inkling
588
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,180
or any parents get involved
ever? Or
589
00:21:32,188 --> 00:21:34,780
do you ever have to like
reach that between or have
590
00:21:34,780 --> 00:21:37,200
you managed to maintain
that this being your job
591
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,480
and what you do afterwards?
Touch
592
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,200
wood. There's
a real difference between
593
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,380
the person. Well,
there's no difference
594
00:21:45,380 --> 00:21:47,640
between the person I am at
school and the person I am
595
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,520
online. Except
that Mrs Smith is me on
596
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,660
steroids with a swear word.
Yeah.
597
00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:58,280
But no, there is a there's
a line between the two. So
598
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,100
when I'm at school, I am
the person I am at school.
599
00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:04,080
Who's,
you know, teaches the way
600
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,180
I teach and that's it. And
then there's the person I
601
00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:11,980
am who's online, who's so
it's really morphed into
602
00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:14,980
something that I didn't I
didn't set out to be, you
603
00:22:14,980 --> 00:22:18,700
know, an edutainer or an
influencer at all. I
604
00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:21,880
set out to make my friends
laugh. And
605
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,440
this was the easiest way
to do it. And
606
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,740
I think as a byproduct of
that, we've ended up
607
00:22:27,740 --> 00:22:32,580
touching a nerve and yeah,
and just building a
608
00:22:32,580 --> 00:22:34,380
community. Because
sometimes I'll write one
609
00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:38,080
line that possibly is
funny, maybe, maybe not.
610
00:22:38,380 --> 00:22:40,380
And
then it comes back that
611
00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:42,720
everyone else, there are,
you know, one hundred and
612
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,240
fifty two hundred comments
where people are joined in.
613
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:47,520
Yeah,
yeah. That's
614
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,460
what I was going to
mention, basically, is every
615
00:22:49,460 --> 00:22:51,200
time I see a post that
you've done on Facebook,
616
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,040
you do have this knack
like you are also just a
617
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,980
good writer, because you
have this knack of kind of
618
00:22:55,980 --> 00:22:57,660
bringing me along on the
journey. And
619
00:22:57,660 --> 00:22:59,180
then by the time it
finishes and the punchline
620
00:22:59,180 --> 00:23:00,720
comes along and you say
what happens, I'm like,
621
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080
that's happened to me the
other day. That's
622
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,960
exactly it's very relatable.
So
623
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,100
you must get that quite a
lot like with people who
624
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:08,960
listen to you. And
I don't know, who do you
625
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,200
think your audience is
online? Because
626
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,380
like you mentioned now,
obviously, it's everyone you
627
00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:15,700
ever went to school. But
we all kind of have that
628
00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:18,240
shared memory, I suppose,
of when we're in school.
629
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,880
But
do you get a lot of
630
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,100
people I'm interested in
those people who aren't
631
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,680
teachers, maybe, who still
see your content and
632
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,380
somehow relate to it still?
Do
633
00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:28,080
you get a lot of that?
Yeah,
634
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:30,480
I get. Well,
I get a whole a whole
635
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,660
range of people who are
within sort of education
636
00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:38,000
from childminders, right the
way through to people who
637
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,640
teach in further education
universities. Yeah.
638
00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:44,640
But also there are people
who are nothing to do, but
639
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,340
they might have been on
the PTA. So
640
00:23:46,348 --> 00:23:49,720
they've had a little bit
more of a or people who
641
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:56,960
are in the police or
they're in medicine. The
642
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,020
same sort of tends to be
people who are working in
643
00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:02,720
jobs where you are people
facing where you're having
644
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,660
to be with groups of
people. You
645
00:24:05,660 --> 00:24:08,500
know that groups are able
to random stuff. So
646
00:24:08,508 --> 00:24:12,120
that's exactly what, you
know, the fact is that I
647
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:15,240
mostly talk about sort of
somebody who's between the
648
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,000
ages of five and 11, doing
so at random, whereas they
649
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,620
might actually have the
grown up first of those
650
00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:21,440
people still doing the same
random things because they
651
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,780
haven't learned that they
shouldn't believe. Tell
652
00:24:24,780 --> 00:24:27,400
me a little bit about your
glossary because I was
653
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,580
cracking up reading through
because I was just
654
00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:32,000
scrolling from your page
again, knowing that we were
655
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,140
going to have a chat. I
thought I just want to
656
00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:35,280
have a little through the
recent comments and posts
657
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,440
and your glossary of
language and vocab
658
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,320
favourite. Just
going to quiz you on a
659
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,440
couple of things if that's
all right. Or
660
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,620
quiz. So
again, like, you know,
661
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,680
maybe people listening
haven't seen this glossary
662
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,140
before and you use some
funny language such as an
663
00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:53,040
observation. What's
an observation? What
664
00:24:53,048 --> 00:24:56,460
could that be? So
an observation is one of
665
00:24:56,460 --> 00:24:59,960
two things. OK,
it's either a straight
666
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:05,280
observation, but it's done
by a knob. Yeah.
667
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,740
And we all know who those
are. Or
668
00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:12,520
it's an observation where
they say something really
669
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040
knobby. Right.
So they say something
670
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,540
that's either completely out
of your control. So
671
00:25:19,540 --> 00:25:22,160
your your, you know, your
lesson was wonderful, but
672
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,860
there was a man blowing
leaves outside your window.
673
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,580
The
children at the back
674
00:25:27,580 --> 00:25:30,340
couldn't hear. Not
my fault. Or
675
00:25:30,340 --> 00:25:32,720
they say you would have
been outstanding. But
676
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,440
did you know that two of
the children had to get
677
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,679
up, half a through a sharp
pencil? Oh,
678
00:25:38,679 --> 00:25:41,700
sorry. Yeah.
Yeah, it's it's those.
679
00:25:41,980 --> 00:25:43,460
That's
the difference. So
680
00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:45,700
no observations are two
different things, really. So
681
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:49,300
the ultimate observation
would be run, observed by
682
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,639
a knob and given no
feedbacks. And
683
00:25:52,639 --> 00:25:55,300
that that often will happen
because, you know, just
684
00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:58,420
that's the way knobs are,
really. That's
685
00:25:58,420 --> 00:26:01,900
a nob observation. Yeah,
brilliant. And
686
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:03,720
one more just to make them
as well. A
687
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,440
learning stalk. I
feel like this is the most
688
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,200
relatable to me. This
is the one when I saw it.
689
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,100
I
was like everyone is going
690
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:12,600
to like flashback. Yeah.
What's a learning stalk? So
691
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,360
a learning stalk is when
it's usually when the
692
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:19,320
schools bought something
expensive and they decide
693
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,480
that everyone needs to
implement it, but they
694
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,980
haven't got time for a
staff meeting. So
695
00:26:23,980 --> 00:26:28,480
what they do is they then
do a learning stalk, tell
696
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,360
everybody that there is an
issue with everybody and
697
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:35,080
then say, haha, but we can
solve it because we've
698
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,260
spent all this money on
this new thing, which we
699
00:26:37,260 --> 00:26:39,580
are now going to all do
all at the same time.
700
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,840
Yeah,
that's a learning. And
701
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,460
I think, I don't know,
maybe we should do a poll.
702
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,640
We
always do a poll with our
703
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,160
episodes. And
I reckon our poll should
704
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,080
be have you ever had a
learning stalk? You
705
00:26:48,088 --> 00:26:49,900
know, because I feel like,
you know, like we said,
706
00:26:50,020 --> 00:26:52,100
everyone will be like, yes,
of course I have education
707
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:55,480
is, is mental. And
we will get onto the maybe
708
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,440
the politics of that in a
bit. But
709
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,480
yeah, just again, to the
listeners, if you want to
710
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,960
go and check out, just go
to Mrs. Mrs. Facebook
711
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,000
page and find the full
glossary because it is
712
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,080
hilarious. I
was going to share some
713
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,360
more. I
want to mention one. I
714
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:07,580
want to mention where you
got another one. Simply
715
00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:09,340
because it links to today,
right? Right.
716
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,320
Because today was one of
those days where we, where
717
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,500
if you walked outside, you
would very much struggle to
718
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:15,960
walk on the straight line
because it was so windy.
719
00:27:16,460 --> 00:27:18,220
And
I know for a fact,
720
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,100
teachers up and down the
land, when they wake up
721
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,660
and step outside their
front door, if it, if the
722
00:27:22,660 --> 00:27:24,820
gusts are above a certain
you know, mile per hour,
723
00:27:24,940 --> 00:27:27,000
let's say even just 15
miles an hour, we're
724
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,340
shaking our heads, but
we're walking through our
725
00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:30,620
car like already like this
with our heads in our
726
00:27:30,620 --> 00:27:32,700
hands. Can
you explain to our
727
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:34,680
listeners out there? I
think I can't remember what
728
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,860
it was called. Maybe
you could enlighten us.
729
00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:36,620
Something
to do with the wind,
730
00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:39,420
something to do with the
wind going on. Well,
731
00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:41,960
again, you may have to
bleep this, but yes, windy
732
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,860
day wankers is what we
have. Do
733
00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:48,760
explain. When
what are you? It's
734
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,920
just, it's just people are,
they're not in control of
735
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,460
the idiocy that then
happens around a windy day.
736
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,800
So
they seem to, anything that
737
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,880
happens, bypasses their
brain. That's
738
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,120
exactly, you just know that
you are going to have
739
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:08,040
someone who has done
something utterly random and
740
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,000
completely out of the
ordinary and the only
741
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,080
explanation can be because
of the wind. Yeah.
742
00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:16,940
Why are you climbing up
the window? Oh,
743
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,520
it's windy. Right.
I actually remember like
744
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,460
really early on in my
career, someone, and I
745
00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:23,620
thought they were joking.
Someone
746
00:28:23,620 --> 00:28:26,700
did, someone was saying to
me, oh, windy day today,
747
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,240
the behavior is going to
be awful. Oh,
748
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,820
the moon. The
moon. I
749
00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:33,240
remember thinking. What
are you talking? I
750
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,280
was at NQT. I
was like, what are you on
751
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,560
about? The
moon's big. Like,
752
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,380
oh, wait, then I had my
class and I was like, the
753
00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:41,760
moon, something. Oh,
no. Yeah.
754
00:28:42,740 --> 00:28:44,880
There we are. I'm
just interested actually,
755
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,280
because I don't know how
long have you been
756
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,160
teaching? Over
35, well over 35 years. 35
757
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,720
years. That's
amazing. Incredible.
758
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:55,680
We're coming up to a
decade. That
759
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,700
feels like 35 years. Yeah.
You have no idea what 35
760
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:02,560
years are like. Yeah.
Yeah. But
761
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,540
in your just, you know,
reflecting on your 35
762
00:29:04,540 --> 00:29:07,620
years, because you haven't
had any guests before that
763
00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:10,140
have as much experience as
you in teaching. So
764
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:13,340
just reflecting on it. When
was the best bit? When
765
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:16,840
was the peak time to be a
teacher in your opinion? I
766
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,620
don't know. I
mean, I think I love doing
767
00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:20,480
it now. I
mean, after 35 years, I
768
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,920
don't think I would carry
on doing it if I did
769
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,240
really enjoy it. And
I mean, I think there are
770
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,200
things that. There
are things that shouldn't
771
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,620
have happened. There
are people who should
772
00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:32,400
never, ever have got their
fingers. Michael,
773
00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:35,260
go home looking at you on
education. Politics.
774
00:29:37,459 --> 00:29:40,480
The most most education
sectors are the gift that
775
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,040
keeps on giving anyway. I
mean, my page wouldn't be
776
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,220
have half the laughs. It
wouldn't if Julian didn't
777
00:29:45,220 --> 00:29:47,080
keep opening their mouth
and put a foot straight in
778
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,760
it. But
I think, yeah, I just I
779
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,940
think we just keep going.
It's
780
00:29:52,940 --> 00:29:54,560
the children and I keep
going with the children.
781
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,480
What
the government do around it
782
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,980
is sometimes neither here
nor there because. We
783
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:03,900
just carry on doing what
we do and and teaching is
784
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,480
a tiny part of what I do.
But
785
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200
all the other things that
go on around it are the
786
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,920
things that give me joy.
So
787
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,020
that really now. Yeah,
that's that's nice to hear.
788
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:16,340
Yeah,
I suppose I'm interested
789
00:30:16,340 --> 00:30:18,400
in. You
know, we just joked about
790
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,060
things like an observation
and learning to talk.
791
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,000
Right.
Yeah. Do
792
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,620
you feel like, let's say
even 20 years ago, as an
793
00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:28,500
arbitrary amount, but far
enough back that, you know,
794
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:30,140
not in the recent
government, not in the Tory
795
00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:33,400
government, do you feel
like observations and
796
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,520
learning stuff, those kind
of things? Do
797
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,580
you think they've always
been a problem or do you
798
00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:39,500
feel like that is part of,
you know, the result of
799
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,840
having people like Michael
Gove and just rubbish
800
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,100
governments coming in and
changing change in the
801
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:46,160
game? But
yeah, I mean, I think
802
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,060
there should always be
accountability. So
803
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:49,620
everyone should be
accountable and everyone
804
00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:51,440
should be doing their job
to the best of their
805
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,620
ability. I
mean, that's absolutely. You
806
00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:56,000
won't. You
want quality first teaching.
807
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,520
In
front of children all the
808
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,920
time. But
I think sometimes something,
809
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:05,500
some things are done like
observations, like learning
810
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,680
stocks in order to tick a
box. So
811
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,840
if you're just going into
classes to say, yes, I
812
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,260
have observed someone,
that's a pointless activity.
813
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,180
If
you're going into a
814
00:31:16,180 --> 00:31:19,480
classroom having had a
conversation with a fellow
815
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,840
professional and you say to
them, what would you like
816
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,900
me to look at in your
teaching and then together
817
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:30,640
we can learn what we need
to do next and where your
818
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,740
CPD can come? Then
that that's fine. And
819
00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:36,240
I think that's the
difference. I
820
00:31:36,248 --> 00:31:39,420
think the difference has
gone from carrying on our
821
00:31:39,420 --> 00:31:44,340
professional education by
giving us observations and
822
00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:48,460
feedback to ticking a box.
That's
823
00:31:48,460 --> 00:31:51,640
the difference. Yeah,
I can't help but agree. I
824
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,040
know only I've only been
in 10 years, but I've
825
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,500
worked in different schools.
And
826
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,920
I think what you're saying
is right in terms of we
827
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,620
do have some control over
it because having worked in
828
00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:02,360
different schools, it's done
so differently. There's
829
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,540
not one way that every
school in the country does
830
00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:06,180
things. So
clearly there's there are
831
00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:08,400
individuals inside of
schools rather than just
832
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,400
whole government systems
that are, you know,
833
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,140
accountable for this kind
of thing. But
834
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:14,900
what I'm really interested
to get your opinion on is,
835
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,640
especially in the context
of the last few years, is
836
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,820
the role of Ofsted as
well, because I know Ofsted
837
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:21,660
and the Department for
Education aren't necessarily
838
00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:24,780
always singing off the same
page and one can kind of
839
00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:26,420
bat it off to the other
as to a reason why
840
00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:29,340
something's happening. But
the reason the recent kind
841
00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:31,680
of, oh, we're doing a big
lesson and we have a new
842
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,280
person in charge and we're
going to be here for
843
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,260
change. And
do you buy it? Do
844
00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:38,100
you think that it is going
to reform? Do
845
00:32:38,108 --> 00:32:39,640
you think it needs to
reform? Because
846
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,320
I agree, we need to hold
teachers accountable, but is
847
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,480
the current way working in
your opinion? What
848
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,440
have you seen the form
they want people to fill
849
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,480
in? I've
not clicked on it because
850
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,340
I've just stepped away from
it, honestly. It's
851
00:32:51,340 --> 00:32:54,300
astonishingly badly worded
and it's also the questions
852
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,500
are. There's
a bias. There
853
00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:00,660
are boxes for you to write
in, and I think people are
854
00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:04,420
writing in them. And
I think that possibly
855
00:33:04,420 --> 00:33:07,440
towards the top, people
have thought they needed to
856
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,200
be a change and they are
prepared to listen. But
857
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,660
I don't actually think
they're going to be able
858
00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:18,640
to cope with the volume of
answers if they whether
859
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,520
they're actually able to
change as much as they
860
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,900
really need to. Yeah.
How. OK,
861
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,720
I'm sure you thought about
this. What
862
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,480
would there be something
you would change straight
863
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,140
away if you could? Would
there be something you'd
864
00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:31,180
been off? Would
you be a way of just
865
00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:32,560
that? You
know, this guy stepped in
866
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,600
now. If
you could have a direct
867
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,320
line to him and say, look,
change this. Is
868
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,980
there one thing you'd put
out there and say, OK,
869
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,640
look, I think we should be
doing that instead. But
870
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,320
I think I don't know
whether you have come
871
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,260
across challenge partners in
the way that challenge
872
00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:47,180
partners. So
I've not had in detail.
873
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,220
OK,
so well, challenge partners
874
00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:51,180
is just as it is rigorous.
It's
875
00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:53,860
just as rigorous that you
are held to account in the
876
00:33:53,860 --> 00:33:56,840
same way. But
it's done with a school
877
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,080
and not to a school. And
I think that's the big
878
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,000
difference. So
with challenge partners, you
879
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,040
know, they come in and
observe, observe, observe
880
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,420
lessons. They
come and talk to members
881
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:10,920
of staff and you are asked
to discuss the curriculum.
882
00:34:11,139 --> 00:34:13,199
It's
exactly the same in that
883
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,500
respect. But
it is done in a supportive
884
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,320
way. So
you are told what is good.
885
00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:20,420
You
are told what needs to be
886
00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:25,760
improved and and how you
can do that and how people
887
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,239
will work alongside you in
order for that to happen.
888
00:34:28,659 --> 00:34:30,280
So
there isn't the same sort
889
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,840
of off a cliff edge. If
there's an issue. Yeah,
890
00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:37,219
that's really cool, because
we've we've actually done
891
00:34:37,219 --> 00:34:40,000
an episode before on off
-stead and reforming off
892
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,360
-stead. And
we kind of came to the
893
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,699
exact same conclusion. Our
opinion is very similar in
894
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:45,400
that we can't get rid of
it. We
895
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,080
can't have any like no
accountability. It
896
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,159
just doesn't work. I
don't think anyone really
897
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,540
thinks that education is
too important to not have
898
00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:53,780
any. Yeah,
yeah, but absolutely it
899
00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:56,179
needs to be a better, more
holistic approach. It's
900
00:34:56,179 --> 00:34:58,020
got to we've got to be
tackling this support, like
901
00:34:58,020 --> 00:34:59,640
you said, like you just
said, right there, it's the
902
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,020
support because at the
minute it's off -stead
903
00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:03,560
coming in and saying,
that's not good enough. See
904
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,040
you soon. And
then oh, right. Thank
905
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,540
you. Just
you could ruin a career in
906
00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:09,840
that. And
you know, and it might not
907
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,200
be good enough, but you're
absolutely right. If
908
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,200
it's not good enough,
actually, if you really
909
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,560
truly care about the kids
and their outcomes, if it's
910
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,940
not good enough, then you
don't leave afterwards. You
911
00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:19,480
stay and you sort it out
with them. So
912
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,260
I completely agree with
you. Yeah,
913
00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:23,660
yeah. I
want to reflect on just
914
00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:25,400
another another funny thing
on your face, but there's
915
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,540
very much link to this
because I was reading them
916
00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:28,800
the other day. You
sent me actually all of
917
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,920
them to look through and
it was the your dear
918
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,040
Gillian series. Again,
like there's no point means
919
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,940
sitting here, reading them
all out, but people won't
920
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:39,960
go and check them out. But
can you just give me a
921
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,980
bit of insight? Like
what made you start doing
922
00:35:41,980 --> 00:35:44,680
your dear Gillian series?
OK,
923
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,680
OK, what what were you
trying to get across in
924
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,360
them? Because
obviously, they're very
925
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,800
sarcastic and very funny.
So
926
00:35:48,808 --> 00:35:50,500
to be fair, it was D.
Gavin
927
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:54,500
to begin with. Yeah,
it started with D. Gavin,
928
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:57,280
because really, honestly, he
did need a lot of support
929
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,900
to understand. Because
he wasn't selling any
930
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,220
fireplaces. What
he said he had to come in
931
00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:04,740
education. He
needed a bit more support.
932
00:36:05,540 --> 00:36:07,440
So
it started with him really,
933
00:36:07,780 --> 00:36:11,860
because I just got so fed
up with the fact that he
934
00:36:11,860 --> 00:36:16,440
obviously had absolutely no
idea what he was doing.
935
00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:19,980
And
the issue is a number of
936
00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:24,760
those people in those
offices never have been in
937
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,300
a school unless they were
seven, eight or nine. And
938
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:32,020
if they had gone to very
few of them have been to
939
00:36:32,020 --> 00:36:33,760
state school, so lots of
them have been to prep
940
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,040
school. So
their view of what
941
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,020
education is is skewed in
a particular way. And
942
00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:45,300
I just thought I thought I
needed to explain to them,
943
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,060
probably in words of not
more than one syllable,
944
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:53,340
often with pictures, exactly
how it was going to affect
945
00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:56,960
the other members of staff
and the children, because
946
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,260
the children that they that
we are working with are a
947
00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:05,040
whole different cohort than
the children that either
948
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,700
they have been to school
with or their children go
949
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,880
to school with. Yeah,
the spectrum is different.
950
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:14,300
It's
just a matter of a bit of
951
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:18,600
support. And
also, they do utterly
952
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,260
ridiculous things. Someone
needs to call them out.
953
00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:25,120
And
it might be recently. Who
954
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,800
was it recently that was
said they were pun? Oh,
955
00:37:26,820 --> 00:37:27,540
it was Jiddy and Keegan.
It
956
00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:28,680
was Jiddy and Keegan. You
must have seen that clip
957
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,400
with Jiddy and Keegan,
where after a year and a
958
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,220
half of teacher striking
and talking about how
959
00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:33,480
offside is not working.
Yeah,
960
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,720
she managed to go on stage
and say, I was in a
961
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,740
school. I
was in a school the other
962
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:40,260
day and I was speaking to
her teacher and I was
963
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:42,320
really shocked because they
told me that the offset
964
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,400
inspector was really rude.
Unless
965
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,560
me thinking shocked that.
OK,
966
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,540
anyway, and then she
carried on and said, yeah,
967
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,760
if it was me, I would
have punched him in the
968
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,800
face. Thanks
for that. That's
969
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,360
a great solution. I
could teach our kids that.
970
00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:57,060
Absolutely.
Well, the trouble is, you
971
00:37:57,060 --> 00:37:58,940
see, that's what we've
ended up with today, isn't
972
00:37:58,940 --> 00:38:00,200
it? We've
ended up within the news
973
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,780
today. One
in five teachers saying
974
00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:07,780
that they have been hit or
had the, you know, they've
975
00:38:07,780 --> 00:38:09,500
been physical violence
against them. So
976
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:12,080
thank you, Gillian. That's
another one tick off for
977
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,480
you. What
can we just stand that for
978
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,040
one second, Hayden? I
know we're going to go
979
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,200
into politics very quickly.
But
980
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,060
that really did pique my
interest when you mentioned
981
00:38:19,060 --> 00:38:21,220
that because I did see
that it was a survey. It
982
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:22,420
was a teacher tap survey.
I
983
00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:23,600
think that they got that
from. And
984
00:38:23,607 --> 00:38:26,940
one in five teachers saying
they've been physically
985
00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:28,900
abused. There
were some crazy numbers in
986
00:38:28,900 --> 00:38:31,120
there about seeing children
fighting, seeing fights
987
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,260
going on. It
seems to be more and more
988
00:38:33,260 --> 00:38:35,420
prevalent. Do
you have an opinion on why
989
00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:37,220
that might be like today?
I
990
00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:38,960
know we've talked about it,
jokes about Gillian saying
991
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,920
that kind of thing, but
that rhetoric isn't. I
992
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,360
don't think this government
are careful with their
993
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,980
rhetoric, let's say. I
don't think they necessarily
994
00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:46,680
watch what they're what
they're kind of
995
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,660
demonstrating. But
what do you think is
996
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,840
causing that? Because
it's a really big problem
997
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,760
in that retention that
we're talking about. Why
998
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,160
would we bother staying if
we're getting a fact? Do
999
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,720
you know I really don't
know. I
1000
00:38:57,727 --> 00:39:01,120
think there's I think there
are lots of things that
1001
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,200
are have added to it. So
you've got children who are
1002
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,740
in a great deal of need.
So
1003
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:11,880
you've got children who are
hungry, children who are
1004
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,380
living in houses that are
not fit for purpose, or
1005
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:19,220
they are overcrowded. You've
got children who are
1006
00:39:19,220 --> 00:39:22,760
waiting and have waited,
maybe up to two years for
1007
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,120
a CAMHS assessment. You've
got families who are in
1008
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,300
crisis. You've
got what's left over after
1009
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,900
covid. Yeah,
I mean, I think there's a
1010
00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:34,980
million and one things. But
a lot of the things are
1011
00:39:34,980 --> 00:39:37,820
not what has happened to
change. It's
1012
00:39:37,820 --> 00:39:40,240
what has not happened
that's caused the issue.
1013
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Yeah,
big time. Good
1014
00:39:42,687 --> 00:39:44,140
point. Leading
on to politics then,
1015
00:39:44,220 --> 00:39:45,260
Hayden. Yeah,
well, you got a little
1016
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:47,020
game I heard. I've
got a little game for you.
1017
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:48,380
I
thought you might want to
1018
00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:51,020
play along with it. Because
you've got something to
1019
00:39:51,020 --> 00:39:52,980
say, I think about
politics. You
1020
00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:54,520
inspired me with your
content and I thought I'd
1021
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,320
make a little game. True
or false? True
1022
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,200
or false game? There's
four statements. You've
1023
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,180
got to say true or false.
Oh,
1024
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,060
it's tricky, really tricky
stuff. All
1025
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:04,060
based on the government and
their involvement in
1026
00:40:04,060 --> 00:40:06,020
education. And
there's a link between the
1027
00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:07,740
four questions. And
if you can get the link
1028
00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:10,820
at the end and you win
the mega prize, we'll send
1029
00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:14,260
you a new bucket with
certain words. Yeah,
1030
00:40:14,340 --> 00:40:16,180
so here's the first one.
Ready?
1031
00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:18,020
So true or false, please.
Under
1032
00:40:18,020 --> 00:40:20,740
conservative leadership,
teacher morale and retention
1033
00:40:20,740 --> 00:40:23,760
rates have significantly
improved due to effective
1034
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,940
policies and support. Oh,
let me think about that
1035
00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:29,360
one. I
think that might be false.
1036
00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:32,620
Correct.
How did you know? That's
1037
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:34,960
fantastic. Wow.
Wow, one for one. They
1038
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,300
get harder. Next
one. The
1039
00:40:37,308 --> 00:40:39,280
conservative government's
handling of school funding
1040
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,480
has led to adequate
resources and infrastructures
1041
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,520
for all schools across the
UK. And,
1042
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,020
hey, as someone who had to
get a meter stick
1043
00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:49,320
underneath her cabinet the
other day to try and find
1044
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,940
pencils, I would have to
say false. Wow,
1045
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,300
you had a meter stick.
Mine
1046
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:56,900
went years ago. That
wasn't true. And
1047
00:40:56,900 --> 00:41:00,940
pencils to find. That's
two for two. Two
1048
00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:02,380
more questions, two more
statements. The
1049
00:41:02,380 --> 00:41:04,720
conservative government's
management of student debt
1050
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,000
and tuition fees has made
higher education more
1051
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,100
accessible and affordable
for all. Ah,
1052
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,580
right. Well,
as a parent of two
1053
00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:13,800
children who've recently
been through university, I
1054
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,920
would definitely say that
it's false. Wow.
1055
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,700
In fact, I saw the highest
student debt at the moment
1056
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:24,940
in the UK is over ��200
,000. What,
1057
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:26,540
one person? Yeah,
one person. And
1058
00:41:26,548 --> 00:41:28,840
I was like, oh, I forgot
we became America. I
1059
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,440
can't wait for a healthcare
system to fill that way as
1060
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,360
well. Anyway,
well done. Great.
1061
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:34,120
That's doing fantastic. It's
a hard place. It's
1062
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,620
the last one and then
maybe you can get the link
1063
00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:36,800
at the end of it. I
mean, it's such a good
1064
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,120
government. I
don't understand the words.
1065
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:38,920
It's
crazy. It's
1066
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,640
crazy. The
last one, the UK
1067
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,500
conservative government
successfully implemented
1068
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,820
their comprehensive plan to
address the educational
1069
00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:48,940
attainment gaps between
richer and poorer students.
1070
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,880
False.
Without. I
1071
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,920
mean, we're laughing, but
we're going to cry in a
1072
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,080
minute. Can
you get the link? I
1073
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,680
think the link might be
that revolving door in the
1074
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,460
Department for Education,
where no one knows, you
1075
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:07,440
know, the left hand doesn't
know what their right hand
1076
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,379
is doing. It's
the clean person. Yes,
1077
00:42:11,379 --> 00:42:12,460
absolutely. Well
done. We
1078
00:42:12,468 --> 00:42:14,380
succeeded in the game. Well
done. Well
1079
00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:15,700
done. Really
tricky. Well
1080
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:18,120
done. Yeah.
You do get you get a
1081
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,300
sticker. We'll
send you one of the posts.
1082
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,480
It
is windy, so I might get
1083
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,940
lost in front of it. I
don't see serious questions.
1084
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,860
Bring
it back down to earth.
1085
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:24,860
It's
really cool. Down
1086
00:42:24,860 --> 00:42:26,180
to earth. OK,
no, no, no, no, that's it.
1087
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:26,900
We're
serious. OK,
1088
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:27,920
we're moving on. Yeah,
go on. The
1089
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,340
games are open. I
can teach you. You
1090
00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:31,520
know, when you make a joke
in the class and then you
1091
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,600
realize you've gone too far
and they're a bit like
1092
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,700
unruly and then you think
I've got to reign this in
1093
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:37,360
and you instantly switch.
Oh,
1094
00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:38,260
no, no, no, no. Jokes
over. Um,
1095
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,780
guys, no. You've
got to understand when I've
1096
00:42:40,780 --> 00:42:43,000
stopped joking. We're
moving on. It's
1097
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,880
so mean, isn't it? Anyway,
sorry. Do
1098
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,240
you think that if Labour
get in in the next
1099
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:52,960
election, do you think they
will do a better job? I
1100
00:42:52,968 --> 00:42:54,720
don't. Do
you know it's that's really
1101
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,800
hard because I don't have
read any of what their
1102
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,180
policies are properly for
education. I
1103
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:01,900
mean, they can't do a
worst job, can they? Not
1104
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,880
sure they properly exist
yet. No.
1105
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,200
So I don't think they can
do any worse. Yeah,
1106
00:43:07,220 --> 00:43:09,420
because I've always been,
I'll be true, for the
1107
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:12,080
honest, I think I'm more
anti this government than
1108
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,060
pro anything else. That's
my current my current
1109
00:43:14,060 --> 00:43:16,160
stance. And
I'm very much for, you
1110
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,060
know, I think as teachers,
the reason the majority of
1111
00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:21,500
us are not conservative
voters is because
1112
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:23,580
traditionally we're there to
help people and we're there
1113
00:43:23,580 --> 00:43:24,540
to help the less fortunate.
I
1114
00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:25,960
mean, when I put our arm
around them and make sure
1115
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,140
they get a good education
and everyone gets everything
1116
00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:31,380
they deserve. But
yeah, I don't know. I'm
1117
00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:33,840
a bit not worried, but I'm
not inspired. And
1118
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,120
you mentioned that you've
not seen any of their of
1119
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,780
their policies yet. And
I don't think there are
1120
00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:39,500
many. I
think what Labour are doing
1121
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,820
at the minute, and this is
down to the awfulness of
1122
00:43:41,820 --> 00:43:44,680
the government, is they're
kind of just saying, oh,
1123
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,560
we'll just wait then
because they know what's
1124
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,900
going to happen. No
one's going to go and vote
1125
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:49,600
for them. So
I don't know what happened.
1126
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,080
I
don't know. I
1127
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,180
actually saw a headline
right before we started
1128
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:55,360
recording. I
was looking at my phone
1129
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,620
and I don't know much
about it. I
1130
00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:59,420
just saw the headline that
was something to do with
1131
00:43:59,420 --> 00:44:02,580
Labour saying that they
will scrap the whole 30
1132
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:05,060
days free childcare thing
that the Tories are
1133
00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:06,620
bringing out because they
just don't think it's the
1134
00:44:06,620 --> 00:44:09,540
right model. And
I saw 30 days, 30 hours,
1135
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,480
sorry, a week of the free
childcare for the younger
1136
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,900
children, going to nursing.
And
1137
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:15,160
I just saw just underneath.
I
1138
00:44:15,167 --> 00:44:16,620
was thinking, well, that's
going to cause backlash.
1139
00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:17,860
Could
have been propaganda. I
1140
00:44:17,860 --> 00:44:19,280
don't know. But
you know, we just think,
1141
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,000
yeah, actually, I don't
really know what. I
1142
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,300
don't really know what
Labour's all about at the
1143
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:24,120
moment. I
don't know if they're going
1144
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,100
to be any better or not.
Yeah,
1145
00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:27,460
it's an awkward one.
Anyway,
1146
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,480
moving on away from
politics, I think. Because
1147
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,620
we've talked enough about
that. Back
1148
00:44:31,620 --> 00:44:33,520
to you, Mr Smith, because
a lot of people I think
1149
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,540
have come here to listen
to you and find out a bit
1150
00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:36,780
more about you. I
would just say really
1151
00:44:36,780 --> 00:44:39,500
quickly before I go on to
a new topic. We
1152
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,140
did, you did put out a
post for us. I
1153
00:44:41,147 --> 00:44:43,460
really appreciate this on
Facebook saying. Lots
1154
00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:45,860
of likes. Lots
of likes. Lots
1155
00:44:45,860 --> 00:44:48,640
of fans saying, hey, I'm
going on a podcast, check
1156
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,980
it out, guys. Ask
me some questions and I'll
1157
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:51,920
answer on the podcast.
Well,
1158
00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:54,640
we had one. We
had one comment and I'm
1159
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,380
going to read it exactly
word for word to you. And
1160
00:44:57,380 --> 00:44:59,200
you can you can interpret
what you think this means.
1161
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,620
It
just said, when do we eat?
1162
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,280
Well,
I think it's I think it
1163
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,240
might be because it's a
play on your your podcast,
1164
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,500
how to teach sleep with
me. And
1165
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:13,880
I think you eat whenever
you can find the time. So
1166
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,660
I think it's usually
lunchtime. Yeah.
1167
00:45:16,820 --> 00:45:19,380
And when you're trying to
mark with one hand, sort
1168
00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:22,960
out some behaviourally with
another hand, go to the
1169
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,500
photocopper and hope that
there's no queue. So,
1170
00:45:25,580 --> 00:45:28,000
yeah, I'm more important.
It's
1171
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,020
when when do you have a
way is the more important
1172
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:33,100
thing? Yeah,
we change our podcast name.
1173
00:45:33,740 --> 00:45:34,800
Do
you sleep? We
1174
00:45:34,808 --> 00:45:37,320
repeat when you can in
brackets at the bottom.
1175
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,460
Yeah,
yeah, fantastic. I
1176
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:40,720
want to know what kind of
teacher you are, because I
1177
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,780
feel like there's one or
two. You're
1178
00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:45,280
either a teacher who is
adamant that at lunchtime.
1179
00:45:45,460 --> 00:45:46,980
No,
it's my lunchtime. I
1180
00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:49,260
will take some time. I'm
going to matter how busy I
1181
00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:50,260
am. I'll
eat my lunch. I'll
1182
00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:53,380
have 40 minutes, sit there
or you're a teacher that
1183
00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:55,500
never leaves their room,
Mike Dillon, and we'll just
1184
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,640
eat their lunch as they're
marking with the idea if
1185
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,300
I'm going to go home with
it earlier. What
1186
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:01,620
kind of you? I'm
actually a combination of
1187
00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:03,620
the two. So
I tend to. So
1188
00:46:03,620 --> 00:46:09,460
we get from 12, 15 to 10
past one, sort of ish. So
1189
00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:14,060
I tend to work until about
five to one, and then I'll
1190
00:46:14,060 --> 00:46:16,620
go and have that last 15
minutes. And
1191
00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:19,000
I'll find I'll leave my
room and go and eat
1192
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,280
somewhere else, whether
that's the staff room or
1193
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,800
someone else's classroom or
whatever. But
1194
00:46:22,808 --> 00:46:27,380
I or your cupboard. Yeah.
Too much rubbish in my
1195
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:29,680
cupboard in order for me
to get in there. I
1196
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,160
tend to do. But
I will make a conscious
1197
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,080
effort to leave my room,
because otherwise I'm
1198
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,960
probably have stayed in
there over break or during
1199
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,600
assembly if I haven't had
to go into assembly.
1200
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,540
Otherwise,
I don't actually see the
1201
00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:45,320
light of day, really. Yeah.
Isn't it mad that my
1202
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,660
natural reaction to you
saying that you make sure
1203
00:46:47,660 --> 00:46:50,460
you get 15 minutes is
like, well done. Well
1204
00:46:50,460 --> 00:46:52,020
done. That's
really good. Terrible.
1205
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,420
It's objectively terrible.
Yeah,
1206
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:55,940
you just don't take breaks
as teachers. Yeah.
1207
00:46:56,020 --> 00:46:58,020
And I think that there is
something in sort of in
1208
00:46:58,020 --> 00:47:02,980
the the Human Rights Act
that you really should.
1209
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:03,920
You're
supposed to be able to
1210
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,480
have some sort of break,
can't you? And
1211
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,180
even health and safety work
at your space to have some
1212
00:47:08,180 --> 00:47:11,100
some break. But,
you know, 15 minutes. I
1213
00:47:11,107 --> 00:47:13,440
feel like you just think
of the kids. Think
1214
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,820
of the children. That's
what everyone said. Don't
1215
00:47:15,820 --> 00:47:17,000
just think of the kids.
Why
1216
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,500
are you doing that? It's
culture, isn't it? I
1217
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:22,300
feel like we do club. Just
thinking of the kids. All
1218
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:23,580
right. All
right. But
1219
00:47:23,580 --> 00:47:25,200
teacher culture is like
that, isn't it? Leave
1220
00:47:25,207 --> 00:47:28,040
him alone. Yeah.
Yeah. Listen,
1221
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,680
I'm going to have to guess
like one person on the
1222
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,240
club. Him.
Yeah, brilliant. Oh,
1223
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,360
man. Anyway,
so what I wanted him to
1224
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,920
want to, I just got
sidetracked. No,
1225
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:38,540
no, no, no. You're
in a club, mate. I'm
1226
00:47:38,540 --> 00:47:39,680
not doing a club. I'm
going to finish off. I'm
1227
00:47:39,687 --> 00:47:42,220
not doing a club. What
I wanted him to want to
1228
00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:43,300
was just a bit more about
you. I
1229
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:44,260
want to bring it back
around to you because
1230
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:46,620
you've been doing some
shows recently. And
1231
00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:48,940
I love to just I don't
know much about it. I've
1232
00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:50,600
seen your Facebook posts.
So
1233
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,840
could you just enlighten us
a bit? You
1234
00:47:51,848 --> 00:47:54,040
know, what's going on with
these shows? What's
1235
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,900
your aim with them? What,
you know, what are you up
1236
00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:58,200
to? But
I mean, you know, in the
1237
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,720
same way that I said, I
sort of started, I did
1238
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,020
actually start doing Mrs.
Smith
1239
00:48:03,028 --> 00:48:06,760
by accident. I
actually started to do
1240
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,240
stand up by accident. I
happened to have got an
1241
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:16,180
agent get me for my
writing because I thought
1242
00:48:16,180 --> 00:48:18,200
the whole idea might be a
good idea to try and write
1243
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,120
a book or whatever. Sure.
But the agent that I have
1244
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:28,120
actually is an agent for
comedians who are mostly
1245
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,940
stand up comedians. And
in the summer, 20, 23,
1246
00:48:32,540 --> 00:48:35,540
they happened to have space
at the Adrin Refrestival.
1247
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,320
They
had a venue. They
1248
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,060
had somewhere that we could
stay. And
1249
00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:43,480
they said, do you fancy
doing the Mrs. Smith
1250
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,940
shows? And
I thought, well, I'm 58.
1251
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,240
No
one's going to ask me that
1252
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:53,840
question ever again. So
I'll say yes. So
1253
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,440
I was then I had four
shows, 45 minute shows of
1254
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,980
stand up at the
Eddifrestival. The
1255
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:08,160
first time I ever stood up
was on the stage at
1256
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,480
Edinburgh. Don't
do that. I
1257
00:49:10,488 --> 00:49:13,040
mean, you know, really,
that's unbelievable. You're
1258
00:49:13,048 --> 00:49:15,600
never going to do it.
Don't.
1259
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:20,280
And they'd all sold out
beforehand, obviously,
1260
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,820
because people either wanted
to see me crash and burn,
1261
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,120
which was a serious
possibility. Or
1262
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,640
they wanted just to see
who I was because we
1263
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,560
called it Mrs. Smith,
see me. And
1264
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:39,420
actually, it worked for 45
minutes. And
1265
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:41,760
then I did a show last
week. So
1266
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,440
now I'm going to take that
show on tour. For
1267
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,920
sure. So
I'm doing I've done a
1268
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,060
couple of shows in South
of London. And
1269
00:49:52,060 --> 00:49:56,180
the one I did the other
week, I did the 45 minute
1270
00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:58,280
Edinburgh show. And
then I did another 30
1271
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,480
minutes, which was like
work in progress because
1272
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,160
I'm the show that I'm then
going to take around East
1273
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,720
Anglia is going to be an
hour long. So
1274
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,420
I just wanted to work out
what I was going to do in
1275
00:50:07,420 --> 00:50:09,660
there. But
honestly, if you can stand
1276
00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:14,940
up for, I don't know, six
hours a day in front of
1277
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:17,920
eight, nine, 10 year olds
who really don't want to
1278
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,940
be there, who aren't
interested in some of them
1279
00:50:19,940 --> 00:50:20,980
in listening what you want
to do. And
1280
00:50:20,980 --> 00:50:22,860
some of them will actively
try and stop you from
1281
00:50:22,860 --> 00:50:25,680
doing it. You
can deal with a room full
1282
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,500
of people who've chosen to
be there with a couple of
1283
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:29,900
beers on board with paid
money, you know? I
1284
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:32,060
mean, yeah, you made it
sound easy. I
1285
00:50:32,067 --> 00:50:34,640
mean, you need your props
for that. I
1286
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,260
don't think I could do it.
Genuinely,
1287
00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:37,940
I think I've done an
amazing job. You
1288
00:50:37,940 --> 00:50:41,420
couldn't. Yeah.
He's presumably I don't
1289
00:50:41,420 --> 00:50:42,340
like it. He
could. He'd
1290
00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:45,760
be great. Yeah.
But I was going to say
1291
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,540
for everybody, but I really
really doing it. So.
1292
00:50:49,420 --> 00:50:51,560
Yes. Yeah,
no, it's not. And
1293
00:50:51,567 --> 00:50:54,340
I think what I was going
to ask you is, have you
1294
00:50:54,340 --> 00:50:57,400
had a heckler yet because
we deal with hecklers every
1295
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,940
day in our job, like
multiple times every like
1296
00:50:59,940 --> 00:51:01,520
two minutes, we have a
heckler. Have
1297
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,340
you had one yet? And
if not, do you kind of
1298
00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:06,020
want one? Do
you kind of want one or
1299
00:51:06,020 --> 00:51:07,480
do you not? Are
you a comedian who's not
1300
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,080
going to want anyone
shouting? Well,
1301
00:51:09,260 --> 00:51:12,080
I do say the start of my
show don't. And
1302
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,600
I say it with my teacher
voice. If
1303
00:51:13,607 --> 00:51:18,080
you're going to heckle,
don't. And
1304
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,720
so far, they haven't. So
that's fine. If
1305
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:25,680
they do. I
haven't told anybody in the
1306
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,880
past 35 years, exactly what
I think about them when
1307
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,520
they stopped me from
teaching. So
1308
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,880
by all means, do it
because you're going to get
1309
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,360
both barrels. Not
in the classroom anymore,
1310
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,400
Mrs. Smith.
No, I don't have to filter
1311
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,460
my thought about you being
silly. He's
1312
00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:44,880
talking to you, by the
way. I'm
1313
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,520
the heckler. It'll
be me. I'm
1314
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,800
going to come and make
sure my make sure you see
1315
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,940
my bald head and you're
like, it's that guy. I
1316
00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:53,980
want to be podcast. Yeah,
I can't see the after
1317
00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:55,160
about the first three rows.
I
1318
00:51:55,167 --> 00:51:58,460
can't see anybody, which is
really glorious. Anytime
1319
00:51:58,460 --> 00:52:00,980
you get heckled, just guess
and you go podcast crap,
1320
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,480
mate. And
just say that. Brilliant.
1321
00:52:04,620 --> 00:52:06,720
Well, I don't know, like,
you know, make you reveal
1322
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,900
all of you, all of your
good material, but would
1323
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:11,580
you would you mind sharing
a story with some or just
1324
00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:14,760
something from I don't have
to be from your standard,
1325
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:16,760
from your standard, but
just something funny because
1326
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,020
you've got so many funny
stories to share every day
1327
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:21,400
on Facebook. I'd
love to hear a bit of
1328
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,580
Mrs. Smith.
Don't think something. I
1329
00:52:24,587 --> 00:52:25,700
don't need to my standard.
Oh,
1330
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,000
well, I mean, it's just
the things that kids say
1331
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,180
to me all day long. I
mean, the other day, I
1332
00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:33,100
mean, I was genuinely
walking and all right, I'll
1333
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:34,600
tell you what, I will tell
you. We
1334
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,320
talked about me to say
earlier, didn't we? So
1335
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,780
we spoke about me to six
and I would never trust
1336
00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:44,880
anybody who if you left
them alone in a room with
1337
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,780
a couple of meter six,
didn't either pretend to
1338
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:51,220
sword fight or use them as
lightsabers with the sound.
1339
00:52:53,279 --> 00:52:55,780
So
I am again, I'm quite
1340
00:52:55,780 --> 00:52:57,320
that's fine. I
haven't got a problem with
1341
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,520
that. If
that's what that's what
1342
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,960
people want to do, that's
what they want to do. I
1343
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,340
did once have a child who
left the classroom, went to
1344
00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:06,080
go get something, you know,
perfectly, legitimately,
1345
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,200
legitimately went to go and
do something. Came
1346
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:17,120
back having found four
meter sticks and they skied
1347
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,100
across the back of my
classroom. What,
1348
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:23,320
two on the feet? Yeah,
two on the feet, two on
1349
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,380
the feet poles, across the
classroom. And
1350
00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:31,080
I just looked at them and
said, were you better ski
1351
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,340
back out again? So
someone opened the door and
1352
00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:37,100
they just skied back out.
I
1353
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:39,460
love that you carry on the
skiing. The
1354
00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:41,900
idea of them like going to
pick them up and stop
1355
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:43,280
walking. And
you're like, no, no, no,
1356
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,140
no, you've skied in. You're
going to ski out again.
1357
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,160
Yeah,
that's brilliant. I
1358
00:53:48,167 --> 00:53:49,640
mean, there's something
special. I
1359
00:53:49,647 --> 00:53:52,460
mean, Dylan's reveling,
taking the mick out of me
1360
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:55,980
in long episodes ago,
because last year when I
1361
00:53:55,980 --> 00:53:58,320
was losing my mind a bit,
I've got one of those
1362
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,760
meter sticks, the ones that
are like hollow, really,
1363
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,040
they're not just the wide
ones. We
1364
00:54:02,048 --> 00:54:03,460
can actually draw like
draw. Yeah,
1365
00:54:03,460 --> 00:54:04,840
they're just the ones for
hollow. And
1366
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,400
I and I used it. I
reckon I can one up the
1367
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,760
meter stick. You
see, I was using it as a
1368
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,220
pretend blow dart in maths.
And
1369
00:54:12,220 --> 00:54:15,160
this is I was really
losing it this year. And
1370
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,980
what the game was this,
the children will sit at
1371
00:54:17,980 --> 00:54:20,020
their desks and I want to
expect their timetables,
1372
00:54:20,140 --> 00:54:21,780
they wouldn't. They
were very reluctant to do
1373
00:54:21,780 --> 00:54:23,560
that. And
so what happened was they
1374
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,560
were in the jungle. I
was a hunter and I'd blow
1375
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,600
dart them with my pretend
blow dart. And
1376
00:54:29,607 --> 00:54:32,840
if they didn't answer the
time stable question within
1377
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,920
five seconds, they had to
pass out on the table. He
1378
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,560
did lose his job, is you
wondering? Yeah,
1379
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:40,000
he's not teacher anymore.
Oh,
1380
00:54:40,060 --> 00:54:42,420
man, I look at that. That
is mad. That
1381
00:54:42,420 --> 00:54:44,040
was mad at the time. I
was like, no, it's just
1382
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,120
what gets me to entertain.
But
1383
00:54:46,127 --> 00:54:48,740
maybe it was a bit mad.
So
1384
00:54:48,740 --> 00:54:50,580
there you go. Don't
use that in your stand up.
1385
00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:52,160
No,
no, no. She
1386
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,960
wouldn't. Don't
worry, mate. Well,
1387
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,780
it might be as an example
of what not to do,
1388
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,740
actually. Yeah,
yeah. How
1389
00:55:00,740 --> 00:55:03,040
not to use the meter. I
was talking to this
1390
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,840
unfortunate guy. He
was telling me all about
1391
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,380
his meter stick. Oh,
my gosh. Right.
1392
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,260
That is unbelievable. I
am I love. I'm
1393
00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:13,880
going to say one more time
to everyone who's listening.
1394
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,380
If
they haven't found your
1395
00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:18,420
Facebook page, they simply
have to. Because
1396
00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:20,800
I don't know. I've
heard of you. I'm
1397
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,160
not going to lie. I
didn't follow you for a
1398
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,560
long time, but I heard of
you a long time ago. And
1399
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,680
I knew of Mrs. Smith
and I knew you shared
1400
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,000
these things on Facebook.
And
1401
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,860
every time I go into your
page, I feel like I can
1402
00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:31,940
sit there. Honestly,
about 20 minutes, just
1403
00:55:31,940 --> 00:55:33,820
scrolling, scrolling,
scrolling. Do
1404
00:55:33,820 --> 00:55:37,320
you ever get a writer's
block or anything like
1405
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,820
that, like creative block?
Because
1406
00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:41,840
obviously you teach that
takes a lot of mind scope.
1407
00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:43,420
I
mean, I feel like I can't
1408
00:55:43,420 --> 00:55:45,100
really do anything after I
was taught for a day.
1409
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:45,960
Never
mind. Sit
1410
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:46,880
there and be with you.
Does
1411
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,080
it come naturally to you?
Or
1412
00:55:48,087 --> 00:55:50,160
because you seem to post
nearly every day. And
1413
00:55:50,167 --> 00:55:52,060
is it just there you go?
It's
1414
00:55:52,060 --> 00:55:53,120
just what I want to say.
Or
1415
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,560
do you have to sit and
really think about it
1416
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,540
sometimes? No,
it's a deliberate choice of
1417
00:55:58,540 --> 00:56:00,580
on my part to post every
single day. So
1418
00:56:00,580 --> 00:56:02,760
every single day for the
past six and a half, seven
1419
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,860
years, I have posted
something every single day.
1420
00:56:05,660 --> 00:56:06,820
And
that's partly to sort of
1421
00:56:06,820 --> 00:56:08,340
exercise my writing muscle.
So
1422
00:56:08,340 --> 00:56:13,840
I do that. And
I do I leave myself voice
1423
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,740
notes. So
I do make a voice note or
1424
00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:19,740
I leave and put a note on
my phone when something
1425
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:22,400
sort of catches my
attention. I
1426
00:56:22,408 --> 00:56:24,700
mean, I mean, you might
not believe it, but
1427
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:26,200
actually, I can be quite
quiet sometimes. And
1428
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,160
I'm, you know, those
people, the quiet ones are
1429
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,400
the worst. So
I'm the one who's
1430
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,680
listening. I'll
listen in to a child's
1431
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,780
conversation or I'll listen
in to what adults are
1432
00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:37,400
saying. And
I just hear things and
1433
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,360
I'll just make a note of
that. And
1434
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,820
everything that I write is
true. It's
1435
00:56:42,820 --> 00:56:44,320
happened at some point in
time. I
1436
00:56:44,328 --> 00:56:47,880
don't make things up. But
I tend to have a little
1437
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,920
bank of things. And
then, of course, you know,
1438
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,860
Julian will do something.
And
1439
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:54,620
I tend to write letters to
Julian at the weekend
1440
00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:57,080
because I need sort of the
venom needs to be stored
1441
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,840
up a bit. So
that's what I tend to do
1442
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,860
it like that. No,
I don't touch wood at the
1443
00:57:05,860 --> 00:57:07,680
moment. I
don't. But
1444
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,339
then I think people's funny
bones are different. And
1445
00:57:11,339 --> 00:57:15,640
I mean, I've always been
quite of I've always been.
1446
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,660
I
like words and I think I
1447
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:22,100
use words quite well. And
I sort of put them
1448
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,360
together and it seems to
work for me. I
1449
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,180
mean, and that's and I
know that's really annoying
1450
00:57:26,180 --> 00:57:28,620
because, you know, it's
like kids, then I can't do
1451
00:57:28,620 --> 00:57:29,740
math or I can do math.
And
1452
00:57:29,747 --> 00:57:33,400
it can do funny, I think.
You
1453
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,720
can. If
you're waiting for a
1454
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,480
conversation, you can do
something. Sorry,
1455
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,180
sorry. I
mean, that's. I
1456
00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:41,680
can't see funny. Just
thinking about that. I
1457
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,800
think I probably can do.
Yeah,
1458
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,000
no. I
was just thinking, do I
1459
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,660
would deal and ask earlier
about your class knowing
1460
00:57:47,660 --> 00:57:48,800
whether you do this kind
of stuff? And
1461
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,880
obviously they don't really,
hopefully not. Do
1462
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,400
the people at your school
know? Like,
1463
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,000
does everyone? Do
you have to do a teacher
1464
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,080
know? Does
everyone kind of know this?
1465
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:57,460
Or
do you just walk around
1466
00:57:57,460 --> 00:57:59,000
like Batman? Like
no one knows? No,
1467
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:04,500
no, my most of the staff
in my school. Yeah,
1468
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,200
most do. I
don't tell them. Other
1469
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,780
people sometimes tell them,
did you know this is what
1470
00:58:08,780 --> 00:58:12,100
she does? Yeah,
my head knows, has always
1471
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:15,460
known as and also the
chair of governance. And
1472
00:58:15,460 --> 00:58:17,440
they're quite happy with
it. And
1473
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,720
I think they're happy with
it because. I
1474
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,440
the children are never the
butt of the joke. So
1475
00:58:23,448 --> 00:58:27,300
yeah, the children are the
most important thing. And
1476
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:29,600
I met that really clear.
The
1477
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,540
people who are the butt of
the joke, or tends to be
1478
00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:34,060
the adults who've responded
to what the children have
1479
00:58:34,060 --> 00:58:36,420
done in a particular way,
or if children have done
1480
00:58:36,420 --> 00:58:40,020
something, it tends to be.
I
1481
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:42,060
don't know, like the other
time when I was saying to
1482
00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,520
a child, why are you
cartwheeling down? Why
1483
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,000
are you doing forward rolls
down the corridor? Because
1484
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,220
last time you told me I
couldn't car wheel. And
1485
00:58:50,220 --> 00:58:53,200
that was where I had said,
I'll go down the corridor.
1486
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,440
So
they then thought, well,
1487
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,880
that's all right, I can do
a forward roll. It
1488
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,040
was nice that we thought I
should have said something
1489
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,620
different in the way I had
asked him. But
1490
00:59:03,620 --> 00:59:09,120
that question reflected on
me and not on them. Yeah,
1491
00:59:09,580 --> 00:59:11,240
I think because of those
stories, they're like, you
1492
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,640
know, the way you write,
it does something quite
1493
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,800
cool, in my opinion. When
someone asked me what your
1494
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,420
page is about, I'll just I
generally say it's like
1495
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:21,340
brutal realism of education
for a start. And
1496
00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:23,240
I think you know, the fact
that you've confirmed that
1497
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,420
it's all true. I
think that's part of the
1498
00:59:25,420 --> 00:59:27,940
reason it's successful,
because it is actually just
1499
00:59:27,940 --> 00:59:31,000
real. But
but you also because you
1500
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,060
post every day and it's
usually, you know, something
1501
00:59:34,060 --> 00:59:36,500
silly that's happened or
whatever, you kind of
1502
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:38,860
accidentally also, I don't
know if accidentally or
1503
00:59:38,860 --> 00:59:41,180
not, but show how teaching
is actually a really great
1504
00:59:41,180 --> 00:59:44,360
job as well in terms of
every day is different. You
1505
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,200
can have a laugh every
day, even if the powers
1506
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,760
that be just make the
trying to make the job as
1507
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,460
terrible as possible. And
I think kind of captures
1508
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:55,340
what I really like about
your page. And
1509
00:59:55,340 --> 00:59:58,380
I imagine what the other
70 ,000 people that follow
1510
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:00,980
you like about your page
as well. Yeah,
1511
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,540
I mean, someone said to me
the other day, and I
1512
01:00:02,540 --> 01:00:05,300
hadn't really thought about
it actually because they
1513
01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:07,720
had and they come to the
show and they were talking
1514
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,300
to me afterwards and they
said, actually, the page is
1515
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:16,060
about being funny, but the
page is also about people's
1516
01:00:16,060 --> 01:00:18,880
mental health because, you
know, the bucket that we
1517
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:26,000
have on a Friday. Shall
I say? But
1518
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,420
it's also about and I
didn't really think about
1519
01:00:29,420 --> 01:00:31,840
this. But
she said to me, it's about
1520
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,140
ending the week and
beginning the weekend and
1521
01:00:35,140 --> 01:00:38,200
getting rid of that and
giving yourself free time
1522
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,040
and mental space and
everything else. So
1523
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,620
I think that's that has
happened accidentally. I
1524
01:00:43,620 --> 01:00:45,400
haven't I haven't
constructed that in any
1525
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,000
particular way. So,
yeah, I think that's also
1526
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,080
why it works really. No,
it's fantastic. I
1527
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,620
just wanted to finish Mrs.
Smith
1528
01:00:53,620 --> 01:00:56,460
on my favorite story that
I read from Facebook
1529
01:00:56,460 --> 01:00:58,800
recently. So
what will end here? But
1530
01:00:58,808 --> 01:01:00,580
this this story, I've got
to tell it because
1531
01:01:00,580 --> 01:01:02,760
honestly, I sat there
cracking up and because I
1532
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,220
thought it was really it
started off really
1533
01:01:04,220 --> 01:01:05,920
heartwarming and the end is
really funny. So
1534
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,460
it was just a post you
did. You'll
1535
01:01:07,460 --> 01:01:09,660
remember as soon as I
start saying it. It
1536
01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:12,880
was about children always
come back once you've
1537
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,180
taught them. They
always come back and say
1538
01:01:14,180 --> 01:01:16,200
hello and say, you are,
you know, when I come and
1539
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,500
see you like one of your
one of your colleagues
1540
01:01:18,500 --> 01:01:20,380
said, what said to the
children? Wow.
1541
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,420
I mean, you must really
like Mrs. Smith,
1542
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:24,460
keep coming back to often.
They
1543
01:01:24,460 --> 01:01:27,240
just responded and said, I
guess so. I
1544
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:32,279
was just checking if she
was still alive. It
1545
01:01:32,279 --> 01:01:35,020
just grabbed me up and I
thought that that's teaching
1546
01:01:35,020 --> 01:01:36,780
right there. You
know, you have made a
1547
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:38,400
really good bond with those
kids. It's
1548
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,320
amazing for us when they
come back and see us, you
1549
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,340
know, we laugh and joke
about teaching. We
1550
01:01:42,348 --> 01:01:45,960
moan, we cry, whatever, but
we love the kids, why we
1551
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,600
do it. And
guess what? Not
1552
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,040
only is it lovely, but
it's funny as well. And
1553
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,600
I think your page, Mrs.
Smith,
1554
01:01:51,780 --> 01:01:54,040
I just want to finish off
by saying it just sums
1555
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,800
everything up. And
we're really big fans of
1556
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,640
yours and we really
appreciate your time. Yeah,
1557
01:01:57,660 --> 01:01:59,940
thanks so much. Obviously,
it's it's my pleasure,
1558
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:02,440
entirely my pleasure. I've
enjoyed it. Thank
1559
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,500
you. Well,
I hope you enjoy the
1560
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:07,260
Easter holidays. Have
a lovely break and yeah,
1561
01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:10,600
plenty of I swear, then I
can't say it. Go
1562
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,120
check out the page. We
went this far. Yeah,
1563
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,760
I'm nearly there. I
was about to use some of
1564
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,360
your glossary terms, which
I will not. So
1565
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,160
let's look at this. Thanks
so much. Thank
1566
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:19,360
you.





