Feb. 18, 2024

Ep 50: Top Tips To Avoid Teacher Burnout

Ep 50: Top Tips To Avoid Teacher Burnout
Teaching is consistently placed in the top 5 most stressful jobs there are. Burnout feels inevitable. With the wrong school & policy in place, it's practically impossible to avoid. However.... We do have control of enough in our job to help. Even just a bit. Here we talk about our top 6 actionable tips to avoid burnout. We do these ourselves & they've had an impact! We hope you enjoy. Let us know what you think. Instagram: @teachsleeprepeatpodcast
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So I said that's where I keep my
Pritt sticks.

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Dylan from teach like repeat.
You're so silly.

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Ohh Hey there.
Ohh.

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Didn't see you guys.
Welcome back to another episode.

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I'll teach you.
Repeat, my name is.

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Dylan, we know that my name is.
Hayden.

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My name is Hayden, my name is
Dylan.

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Where's one of us?
Somewhere here.

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Have you noticed how obviously
we've talked about before when

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we're in school constantly,
people got names mixed up

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because we're usually the only
two blokes and we just come as a

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pair.
So someone walk up to me and

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say, have you seen Dylan?
Yeah, you.

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Have 5050?
Well done.

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Right here.
But then I was thinking about,

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you know, like Brad and Angelina
when when together in the media,

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that Brangelina.
Yeah.

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And I've thought before about
what our name would be.

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And and it turns out if we
joined dinner then Hayden we get

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Dylan.
Or if we do the other way

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around, we get Hayden.
Wow, what a couple name.

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Yeah, I know.
Ohh.

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So that's my thought for the day
is if we were to ever be a

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couple and the media were to
pick us up.

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So it's two things that probably
will never happen.

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Well.
One of them.

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When the Sun again, Yeah.
And also with our partners

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names, they're Lauren and
Lauren.

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So if you join them, that'd be
Lauren and Lauren.

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Ohh, nothing would change.
Anyway, we start recording,

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yeah.
Crap.

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We press record a minute ago.
You've been here this whole

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time.
Anyway, lovely to see you guys.

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For us it was half time this
week.

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Again, a big thing.
I didn't know this.

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I thought the half terms were
quite rigid.

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Loads of people are on half
term.

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Till next.
Week.

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Yeah, I know.
I also thought half terms were

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for having a break from work.
Sorry.

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You you naive petal.
They're not really weird, isn't?

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It so how's your week been there
because it has been half time.

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It's been busy.
Isn't it obviously the whole

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theme of this this episode is
about burnout and stuff, so

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don't give too much away.
We've got our top tips on the

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way burning out, baby.
Are you burning out, baby?

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What's your what's been busy,
isn't it?

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Yeah, you know this because to
be honest with you, half of the

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business of this week has been
because we've had a massive like

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overhaul of our website which is
taking up lots of.

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Quick recap for anyone who
doesn't know Hayden and I, we do

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work part time in a school, but
we also run our own tutoring

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business outside of that, which
has grown nicely over the years

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and something we enjoy doing and
we put a lot of our time to that

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as well.
So what's happened then this

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week as if I don't know well
website.

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Would you like?
I'm playing the role of the

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audience?
But what do you mean Hayden?

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He probably doesn't.
Please be quick because I

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couldn't care less.
I've clicked on this for burnout

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I don't care about.
Having changed the layout of a

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big chunk of our website, yeah,
and it was just a massive job.

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So that's been done.
But in the back of my mind the

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whole time I've been thinking.
I do have loads of work to do

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for school as well, though
there's a planning to sort out

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and I've just been pushing it
back and back and back.

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Still haven't done it,
obviously.

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Listen to this on Monday.
We're back at school.

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It's Friday when we're when
we're recording this.

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I've still not done it, but
we'll see.

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Because we can't really complain
about having to do our business

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stuff in our time.
There's nothing as half time.

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Anyone out there who's teaching
a lot of teachers do like a side

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thing, whether it is a bit of
tutoring.

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Yeah, I know some people do
crafts and things and sell

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those.
You know there's no such thing

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as time off when you're
self-employed.

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But you know, it's kind of
frustrating isn't it?

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When you think we get to the
half time, OK, cool, I can rest

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and recoup.
I can concentrate on my

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business.
Ohh.

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But also I've got 8 hours of
planning to do and it doesn't.

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It doesn't annoy me because I
know what people, I know people

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are doing it from a good place.
But there is something about

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when people say stop it, stop
your plate, it's half term

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break.
You just turn off and have a

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break.
OK, well there be nothing to

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teach when I get back home.
Yeah, exactly.

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I've got a massive chunk of
planning to do and I'm teaching

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in the first week and I'm like,
even if it feels like the second

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week, I'd honestly probably just
leave it and be like half term.

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I'll do it when I'm back at
work, man.

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But yeah, I've been putting it
off.

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It was quite funny the other
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When I finally down to do it, I
was like I've got no more

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excuses.
On website was pretty much done.

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There was a few like bug fixes
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Stuff our friend Harvey was just
basically running through.

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Stuff, yeah.
And he he's been developing it

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for us with his company Vision
Tank and.

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They're great honour.
That brilliant.

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That's amazing job.
Check out our website.

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Www.topdogonline.co.uk.
It's really cool and give us

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some feedback.
Anyway, we do actually teach and

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stuff as well.
We're not just sit and chat and

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bitch about stuff, we actually
do teach.

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We do stuff.
But I finally sat down and I

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thought, I've got to do this
planet.

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Now I do.
I really don't want to do it.

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And Harvey rang me.
I was like, have you got, can

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you jump on.
We've got.

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We've got.
Do I just got a few things on

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for like, yes, yes, I can.
Absolutely I can.

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I can do that for as long as you
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All day, all day.
Baby.

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I don't do any planning.
Let's do that.

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Is weird, isn't it?
My house gets really clean when

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I got planning to do.
It's hard.

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Do you feel bad though then
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Because obviously Lauren, are
our Laurens and our babies just

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say Lauren singular.
Lauren just encompass all that.

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That's their couple name.
Yeah, so Lauren.

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And do we need a couple name for
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Her.
Error.

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I just felt bad because I was
like oh is that half term?

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We're supposed to be doing nice
stuff and I'm just sat here

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working all day everyday.
Yeah, probably rubbish, but

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other than that, how's your?
Nursery been terrible.

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Yeah, nursery.
She's good.

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It's all decorated.
It's got carpet now, not seen

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it.
There is a changing, you know,

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it's like a changing thing on
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underneath.
I don't know what that's called

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a changing console.
I don't know.

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The crib is done, although it
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I'm really struggling with the
idea that he's gonna have his

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own room soon is I know it's
meant to be 6 months and I've

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seen a lot of stuff lately about
like basically ripping western

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culture for thinking that kids
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quickly.
Hmm.

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And you know the six month thing
is just an arbitrary age and

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Rory's 4 1/2 months now and I'm
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seem like enough time for us to
then let go of him and him being

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his own room.
I don't see a problem with him

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staying in our room because he's
not on my side of the bed.

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Doesn't wake me up.
Yeah.

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No, but he, I don't know.
There's something both of us are

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a bit like.
Ohh wait, he's still in your

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room at 4 1/2 months?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Ohh God River was in her own

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room by 8.
Days Oh my We're.

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Comparing.
I'll tell you what I know.

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I know we've had this
conversation.

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But if.
You don't have it.

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No, no, no.
These guys need to know if your

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parents, if you ever see any any
content online, Instagram,

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TikTok, whatever about babies
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comments section.
They're just people are just so

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horrible.
Yeah, so horrible all the time.

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Just nothing's.
Right.

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What do you mean you play with
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Your child will become dependent
on play then, and they'll be

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happy.
Yeah, I watch a video sometimes

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and be like, oh, that's a nice
idea.

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Let's just check the comments
for validity.

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Yeah.
No, always.

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Ohh.
I didn't.

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I didn't do that.
Oh, you shouldn't do that until

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this time.
Ohh wow.

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Did you know that has this
adverse effect?

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Ohh my.
God.

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And also there's every single
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There'll be someone saying it's
the best thing you can do,

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someone else saying it's the
worst thing you do, someone else

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saying you could do if you want.
Don't really make a difference.

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Oh my God, just let me crack.
On I'm yet to find a single

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video related to like something
you can do with your child

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that's actually just got
positive comments like I was

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like, Oh yeah, this is really.
Good I've I've seen there's been

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like a shift, I think, from
people who are fed up with it,

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who I've seen lately there might
be like a dad on there playing

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with their daughter where
they're maybe just doing some

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rough play because the whole
thing that we've seen before is

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dad's and are more likely to
rough play of their son than

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their daughter.
But rough play is really

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beneficial for everyone.
When I say rough play, it means

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like, you know, throwing them
onto a beanbag and stuff like

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that, a bit silly.
And so there might be like a dad

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doing it with their daughter.
And obviously the classic

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comments to your to your
daughter.

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Do you know what kind of a thing
that's gonna have a really bad

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effect when they grow up and
they know men can throw them

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around.
It's like, ohh my ohh, my

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goodness me playing.
No.

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But what I see now is a switch
where there's comments and

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they're just completely
satirical and they'll start off

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with that, but they're just
joking.

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Like you shouldn't do that with
your daughter because they grew

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up loving you and having a
really.

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Nice song band, yeah.
Completely like, like sarcastic.

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You get baited and I'm angry.
I'm reading the first sentence,

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ready to reply to that.
No, this is.

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This is wrong.
You're being stupid, and

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actually they're just.
Like, yeah, you know what?

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Crack on.
You know your kid rather than

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anyone.
Before I had kids.

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I def.
I'll be really honest.

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I turned my nose up sometimes to
people who said stuff like that.

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Right.
And like if someone said, you

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know your baby better than
anyone, Mama, if a doctor says

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this, then you should be doing
that Mama.

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Everything's Mama at the end.
Yeah, you you know, you Mama and

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I would definitely be like, ohh,
shut up the doctor.

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It's a doctor.
Of course I know.

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Well, having gone through a
pregnancy, well not personally,

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but having gone through
pregnancy with partner, having

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the whole birth process.
And since then ohh my they are

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right.
Though there is a whole bunch of

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stuff where I'm like, hmm, the
Mama does know best.

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The Mama does.
Know and there's certain things

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where doctors have said stuff to
us and it sounds great.

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And at the time we've taken as
gospel.

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Now doctors said this, so we and
actually, no, they were wrong.

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They were just wrong.
Like what's best for each person

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is different.
So what are you saying?

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Because the start of that
sentence was yeah, the doctors

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was always.
Right.

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No, no, no.
I'm saying.

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I'm saying it's changed.
I'm saying I used to be like

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that.
I used to, I used to turn my

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nose up.
Of course I used to turn my nose

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up to people who said Mama knows
best doctor isn't always right.

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But it's changed.
Yeah, Since having a baby, I'm

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like, no, there is certain
stuff, actually where you are.

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You just do you, and the baby's
gonna be.

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Fine.
Well, look, let's talk about

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doctors for a second.
Ohh.

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This is funny because, again,
we've had a similar experience,

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haven't we?
We're at the same doctor's

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surgery.
Hey, and I'm gonna lay

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foundations of this because, you
know, the state of doctor's

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surgeries in general.
We'll get on to that.

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I had a really good.
Experience with my doctors.

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First time ever.
Yeah, and you had a terrible one

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at the same doctors.
Time in the same week.

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So why are you so annoyed?
Potluck, by the way, that's my

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my right now.
Anyone in the UK, like hopefully

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you're gonna vent with me
because I imagine it's the same

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everywhere.
The system is so broken.

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We talk about the teaching
system being broken.

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It's not as broken as the GP
system.

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It's unreal how you can't get an
appointment anymore.

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So our surgery and please,
please tell me if this is normal

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because I don't think it is.
And it might just be our surgery

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opens at 8:00 physically,
physically opens at 8:00.

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And the only way you can get an
appointment is booking it same

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day.
So you can't book an appointment

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under any circumstance ever.
In our doctors for a for a

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different day.
That's a normal day.

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That's normal mental straight
away.

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That annoys me so much, right.
Opens at 8:00.

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They don't open their phone
lines until 8:30.

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Yeah, So what they're what
they're saying is basically the

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majority of the appointments
will be gone by 8:30 because

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people are doctors.
And I did this two days, two

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days ago for two days in a row
because I can't get an

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appointment queue up from 7:30
just to get there.

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To be front is like the Apple
Store and has a new iPhone

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releasing.
A new iPhone.

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It's healthcare.
It's healthcare that I'm paying

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into constantly.
Every month.

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Yeah, we just line up and if
you're lucky you get an

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appointment.
So I lined up the first day, got

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all the way to the front of the
queue after about 2025.

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Yes, it's probably about the
15th in the queue thinking I'm

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probably gonna get an
appointment.

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You know, you'd hope so.
And got there.

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She was like, ohh yeah, doctor's
not in.

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I was like, ohh is she not?
That's that's classic timing,

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isn't it?
Ohh.

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So annoyed thinking I can't
God's sake.

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But these people probably get a
constant abuse.

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I was.
I'm not going to be that guy

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that gets annoyed.
It's a receptionist.

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Like what?
It's not their fault.

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Is it?
They didn't create the.

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System was like, ohh, OK, So
what does she work?

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And they was like ohh every
other day apart from today.

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Oh oh classic.
That isn't it.

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I finally get down there and not
here.

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He's like, OK, she sorry.
And she was like, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah.
OK.

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She got any appointments?
She was like, yes, I was like,

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can I have one?
He's like, no, of course not.

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I know this system's broken.
That's fine.

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What can I do?
She was like, well, come back in

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the morning.
She's got a few appointments.

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And I was thinking, well, none
of them can be booked today.

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No one could book those
appointments because it's not

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tomorrow.
Yeah.

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So it should be fine as long as
I get here the same time.

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Went back the next day, queued
up again Saturday, half an hour.

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I got to the end of Q.
Same lady.

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I was like, oh, it's me again.
Came here yesterday trying to

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see this doctor.
You said she's got some points.

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Can I see her today?
Ohh, I've not got.

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Not got any appointments?
Actually not.

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Ah, OK and right.
It's just OK OK what?

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How do I get an appointment?
Cause yesterday I came and you

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said she's got some appointments
today and I've come again and

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she's not got any.
Like a normal person.

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I work in the hours at this
doctor.

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Surgery is open.
So what do?

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I do.
You got half time.

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You got every single day of
half.

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Hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, literally.

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And in the end, she was like,
well, she's got some phone

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appointments later, I think.
You know what would be better

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when she's on the phone to me?
Could I just be there instead in

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front of her?
That might.

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Work, Joe?
Well, I'll bring my phone.

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Ohh, sit in this lobby and then
when she's done I'll walk round.

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I'll just pop on.
I'll answer, I'll Hello.

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Yeah, funny enough, I'm.
Are you free?

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You are because you're on the
phone to me.

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You are free.
Brilliant.

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I'll come in.
And and in the end.

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So she phoned me.
I waited all day because they

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say yeah, well, phone at some
point 8:00 AM, right?

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They rang up at 4:15.
So I'd weighed all day just like

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not really doing anything.
And the only plans I had were at

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4:30 that day.
I did nothing all day other than

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wait for the appointment.
I had A and I was meeting my

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cousin to play some snooker.
Something I haven't done in

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years.
And I'll be really nice.

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Corpus four.
She rings.

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I was like, ohh, typical.
She was like, yeah, you want to

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quickly come in now thinking,
ohh, I do, I really do.

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I've also got an appointment,
something else to do.

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But I'm going to come in because
I'm not missing this came in she

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didn't know what the problem.
Was sorry she she invited you in

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anyway.
Yeah, after about 20 seconds of

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talking, I was like, yeah, it's
kind of, it's kind of one of

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those things you need to see.
Really.

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Yeah.
Because.

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Oh my But you need to see to
check this.

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Yeah, both of us.
It was like a skin thing, right?

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Yeah.
We're not afraid of that.

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It's just a skin thing.
Nothing terrible.

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But just somewhere, like, can
you just look at that?

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Yeah.
Because I just wanna know that

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I'm OK.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Well, in any way, she didn't.

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Really.
Know you wanna take my

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experience?
Yeah, because this is the exact

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same doctors and this is gonna
highlight how mad it is.

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I phoned them in the morning at
8:00 and they said it's closed,

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but I'm fairly sure it opens at
8.

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Found out the whole thing.
Actually the lines open at half

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eight.
I was like, fine, that's a good

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half an hour of a pub is being
booked up.

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But fine.
So I called at half eight.

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Gotta make sure you time it
right.

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I called at 29 minutes past 8
knowing there's some jargon.

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I was like, I'm playing the game
here cause by the time you get

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through, there's been a lot of
abuse to our people.

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That won't be tolerated.
If there's any other way of

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checking out your ailment
instead of coming to a GP

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surgery, which you pay for by
the way, but you can't ever get,

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why don't you try that out
instead?

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Call 111 and stay on hold for
seven hours and they can check

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your mole.
No, they can't.

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It's a phone call.
I want you to look at my mole.

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So anyway, go for all that
jargon gets past half eight in

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the lines open.
I go, you are #9 in the nine

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who's got ahead of me.
I called it 29.

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Anyway, I'm nine in the queue,
so I'm waiting and I'm like, I'm

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giving myself up for a mini
argument.

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Like I'm not gonna be horrible
to them, but I just wanna make

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sure that my message gets across
because it's classic with all

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big companies and it's now with
GP's as well.

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The people who set the system
make sure someone else takes the

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flak.
Some person on minimum wage,

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probably.
Is out the front, Yeah.

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So it winds me up.
But I also want them to know

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it's broken.
So I know that there's the

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system since COVID, by the way,
which has just stayed.

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Which is another annoying thing,
that the first port of call for

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whatever you do at our doctors
is a phone call.

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Umm.
And I'm straight away.

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I'm like, OK, cool.
I need someone to check out

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three moles, so a phone call
does nothing for me.

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So hey.
Yeah.

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What you after?
I wanted to check my mails,

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please.
Oh, do you wanna come in?

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Yes.
Of course I do.

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Let me just look over the phone
for.

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You can you describe the mole?
Well, it's quite Molly.

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It looks like every other mole
I've ever seen.

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And and yeah, it looks it maybe
it looks so different, which is

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why I went to look at it.
So I can't describe it.

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Anyway, so I'm ready for this.
I'm like, I'm always geed up a

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bit.
And I was like, so it gets

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through.
It's like, hey, how can I help

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you?
Hello.

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I was just hoping to get some
moles checked, please.

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And that's all I said, yeah.
And I was because I was waiting

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for them to be like, well, OK
with this.

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No did.
And she went, yeah, OK, I've got

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half 10 today and oh.
Yeah.

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Thank you, good Madam.
Ohh yeah I'm really angry.

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For some reason I will.
I will take that half ten.

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And she was like, cool.
That's all booked in.

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See you then was OK, cool.
So I went in.

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Yep, got there at 25 past
checked in.

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Got called immediately.
So I was in there at 28 past.

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Wasn't even my doctor.
My doctor was busy.

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I was with.
It wasn't even a doctor when you

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got the appointment.
It was in the car park at Tesco

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actually.
It was really weird.

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Went in, showed my moles
immediately, at ease in terms of

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he was just so calm and
explained everything.

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Saw the Marie went, he said some
random Latin word.

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Ohh, that's a that's a Mollica
Spartacus.

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And I was like, OK.
I was like, oh, that's fine,

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yeah.
And then I had another one

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because I've got on my hairline.
So, no.

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Sorry, Sir.
That's that's your nipple.

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Sorry.
OK, sorry.

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I've been really there.
What about this other mole?

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Well, so I have to tell you
that's.

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And this one, That's your penis.
Thank you Doctor.

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I was so worried this week,
coming out of my mouth.

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It is leaking.
That's milk.

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The other ones, well, that's
that is a problem.

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That's not what you think.
But you do need to get that

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checked out.
Oh my God.

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Anyway, I was.
I was at home by 10:37.

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Yeah, and Lauren thought I'd
forgotten something.

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So completely mad.
Two completely different things.

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It's nice you had a good
experience.

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I'm glad that, to be fair, I
was.

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When I did go the first time, I
was offered an appointment of a

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different doctor.
But with this thing, I was very

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surprised.
Like my doctor very specifically

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requested me to get an
appointment to come and see her,

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to check up on this thing.
Yeah and I was like alright

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thanks.
But I do need to see this

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doctor.
She was like oh oh can't so I

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don't know but back to the
overall point, what are your

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doctors like?
Please no have a vent because I

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I cant event about doctors.
It annoys me so much and I'm.

453
00:17:57,950 --> 00:17:59,910
Going to stick up for GP
receptionist right now because

454
00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,250
actually they're they're they've
been lovely.

455
00:18:02,260 --> 00:18:04,970
They've been lovely hard job and
they're they're lovely.

456
00:18:04,980 --> 00:18:07,860
They must get a lot of abuse.
Yeah, I I really don't want

457
00:18:07,870 --> 00:18:10,160
anything directed towards them
in terms of it's not their

458
00:18:10,170 --> 00:18:11,450
fault, it's a horrible.
It's not their fault.

459
00:18:11,460 --> 00:18:12,520
It's not the doctor's fault
either.

460
00:18:12,530 --> 00:18:14,470
No, it's really clear.
Yeah, I am not annoyed at

461
00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,390
doctors anyway.
I'm really, really annoyed at

462
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,250
the system.
The.

463
00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:20,050
Government Ohh is it the
government?

464
00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:21,230
Is it?
I wonder if it's sort of

465
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,880
underfunding.
Because is it that thing where

466
00:18:22,890 --> 00:18:25,750
every single graph and piece of
data that you've ever seen from

467
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,410
2010 has just got considerably
worse?

468
00:18:27,420 --> 00:18:30,010
Yeah, Wasn't that thing where we
turned 18 in 2010?

469
00:18:30,020 --> 00:18:31,880
Eleven.
And ever since we've been an

470
00:18:31,890 --> 00:18:34,190
adult, life for adults have got
considerably worse.

471
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,640
Consistently, in every single
way, every single way possible.

472
00:18:36,650 --> 00:18:37,520
The country's got.
Poorer.

473
00:18:37,530 --> 00:18:38,660
Sorry.
Got general election this year?

474
00:18:38,670 --> 00:18:40,230
Yeah.
Ohh yeah, but do you remember

475
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,610
what Labour did back in the
early 2000s?

476
00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:48,160
They made the museums free.
OK honestly yeah God what was it

477
00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:49,410
recently?
I thought I can't remember what

478
00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:51,620
it was but the the overarching
point is more important.

479
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,060
Someone was moaning about
something.

480
00:18:53,070 --> 00:18:55,000
It was like a Question Time sure
programme.

481
00:18:55,370 --> 00:18:58,140
Someone was moaning about
something and they're saying

482
00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:59,880
yeah this policy is rubbish.
This policy is rubbish.

483
00:18:59,950 --> 00:19:02,750
And then someone else came back
and I thought they were like do

484
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,440
you know who bought that policy
in That was Labour in like 2000

485
00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:09,300
and whatever and and I was like
ohh kind of done it because it

486
00:19:09,310 --> 00:19:11,930
was a labour policy and then the
person immediately reply was

487
00:19:11,940 --> 00:19:14,270
like yeah cool toys had 14 years
to sort out.

488
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,450
Why haven't they sorted?
It out.

489
00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:17,570
There's nothing now.
That's why they're completely

490
00:19:17,580 --> 00:19:19,030
screwed.
Yeah, because there is nothing

491
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,350
now.
Because after like 14 years and

492
00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:25,190
75 prime ministers like and and
they try and reinvent themselves

493
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,490
every time.
There's nothing left now where

494
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,460
if it's wrong, it's not.
They've not even had the chance

495
00:19:29,470 --> 00:19:30,250
to fix it.
Yeah.

496
00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:32,430
Or they've completely.
It's been too long now.

497
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,790
You can't.
They can't keep blaming Labour.

498
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,870
Stop it.
Stop.

499
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,050
It.
And you know, you don't have to

500
00:19:37,060 --> 00:19:38,510
like Labour.
You don't even have to vote for

501
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,410
Labour.
No, you don't.

502
00:19:39,420 --> 00:19:42,490
You don't need to like whatever
you want to do it.

503
00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:43,940
Actually, it's fine.
Do you know what?

504
00:19:43,950 --> 00:19:45,310
I've got my reservations about
Labour.

505
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,110
Yeah, I don't.
Really.

506
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,650
Yeah, absolutely.
So this isn't a pro labour

507
00:19:48,660 --> 00:19:50,300
thing.
This is quite simply that when a

508
00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:53,870
government's been in charge for
14 years and stuff is awful, you

509
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,640
can't point and blame at anyone
else.

510
00:19:55,650 --> 00:19:58,180
Yeah, so vote for whoever you
want to vote for, but do not

511
00:19:58,190 --> 00:20:00,910
blame someone other than this
government for what this

512
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,710
government of managed to do in
the last 15 years.

513
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,570
Yeah, or Dylan will get you.
I'll get you anyway.

514
00:20:06,740 --> 00:20:07,650
Right.
Thanks for that vent.

515
00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:08,730
I needed that vent.
That's good.

516
00:20:08,780 --> 00:20:10,840
I needed that vent.
The listeners sure didn't.

517
00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:13,090
They've all turned off.
What are you here for?

518
00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:16,890
Ohh yeah, burnout.
Not from listening to this

519
00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:20,620
should give us hope.
Give our top tips then, Aiden.

520
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:23,530
Yeah, I like, I like how we're
slowly starting to like do like

521
00:20:23,540 --> 00:20:25,630
software works a little more
now, more confident.

522
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,910
You last week was that the week
of bloody.

523
00:20:27,980 --> 00:20:29,890
Yeah.
You were like, oh, these bloody.

524
00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:31,230
Things.
When you say soft swear words,

525
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,570
are you referencing the fact
I've said the F word three times

526
00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:34,850
you?
Have to just say that you might

527
00:20:34,860 --> 00:20:36,860
have noticed a cut if you're
watching, probably listening.

528
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:38,290
We probably cut it so you didn't
hear it.

529
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,420
But yeah, Dylan keeps Dylan keep
saying there.

530
00:20:40,430 --> 00:20:42,870
For you, really quick story
about the F word, not really.

531
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,480
OK, I'm joking.
I'm joking.

532
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:48,650
No, I'll take the end to listen
for.

533
00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:51,000
I'll take a quick story about.
Tell me at the end when we play

534
00:20:51,010 --> 00:20:52,250
a game, because I've got a game.
For real?

535
00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:55,200
So we can have a nice serious
chat game and then an F word

536
00:20:55,210 --> 00:20:56,120
story.
Ready.

537
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:57,520
Let's do it.
Let's cut.

538
00:21:00,130 --> 00:21:01,200
OK, You ready?
Hating.

539
00:21:01,930 --> 00:21:02,960
You ready?
Yes.

540
00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:03,560
Yeah.
OK, good.

541
00:21:03,570 --> 00:21:05,970
Because Hayden said let's go.
And then took a drink that a

542
00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:09,040
stretch and sorted this top out.
So we're ready now.

543
00:21:09,050 --> 00:21:09,900
Hello.
Hang on.

544
00:21:10,550 --> 00:21:11,260
Yeah.
Brilliant.

545
00:21:11,730 --> 00:21:12,090
OK.
Yeah.

546
00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:14,390
You look good now.
That top was looking not inflate

547
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,020
until you did that.
And now it looks great.

548
00:21:16,030 --> 00:21:20,890
So that was really useful.
You did that roughly anyway.

549
00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:24,930
They're never on fleek.
Your hairlines on fleek anyway.

550
00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:29,040
My hairline is fleeting away.
That was me.

551
00:21:29,450 --> 00:21:31,480
Anyway, you've kept on this
because guess what, we're

552
00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:35,400
halfway through the school year.
This half term marks the halfway

553
00:21:35,410 --> 00:21:36,780
point.
Yay, yay.

554
00:21:36,790 --> 00:21:40,380
And it means that we've got just
what we've done so far left

555
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:42,290
again until the end of the year
and we get that lovely summer

556
00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:43,940
holiday.
The definition of half there.

557
00:21:45,130 --> 00:21:49,000
Didn't know half of it, you
know, So I thought it'd be a

558
00:21:49,010 --> 00:21:53,030
really good point now to talk
about burnout because for me

559
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,600
personally, I think getting
through the 1st 2 terms is

560
00:21:55,610 --> 00:21:57,080
tough.
You get to Christmas.

561
00:21:57,310 --> 00:22:01,150
After that, settling back in can
be tricky, but you kind of you

562
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,570
get through that and it can kind
of hit you now like Ohh, I do

563
00:22:04,580 --> 00:22:07,590
have three more times left and
these tend to be, especially at

564
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,170
the end for some at last summer
time, a really long one.

565
00:22:10,220 --> 00:22:13,360
So if you're starting to feel
already quite burnt out doing

566
00:22:13,370 --> 00:22:17,980
the job there, there are things
we have to do to stop that,

567
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:20,200
because it's you can only get
worse from this point if you're

568
00:22:20,210 --> 00:22:22,660
having problem.
We've been for those years of

569
00:22:22,670 --> 00:22:25,980
total, total, utter burnout and
we've come out the other end, I

570
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:29,020
think because we said before
this but didn't we were like, do

571
00:22:29,030 --> 00:22:30,680
you feel as burned out as you
used to feel?

572
00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:33,500
Part of that is obviously due to
part time, but we do still work

573
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:35,680
on those other days as well in
our own stuff.

574
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:37,330
But I don't.
I don't, and I haven't done for

575
00:22:37,340 --> 00:22:40,830
a few years and I don't feel as
burnt out as I used to feel in

576
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,800
the day.
And I think it's really

577
00:22:42,810 --> 00:22:44,620
important for teachers to
understand is, and I guess this

578
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:46,840
episode is.
Changed more at less experienced

579
00:22:46,850 --> 00:22:49,230
teachers who kind of feel that
burn out and don't know what to

580
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840
do, but also more experienced
staff who who is still

581
00:22:51,850 --> 00:22:54,370
struggling with burnout, but
also just to see, you know, am I

582
00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:56,990
doing these things, These things
I can help because a lot of this

583
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,630
stuff comes with experience.
That we're about to talk about,

584
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,670
and you will definitely have
your own ideas as well, and I'd

585
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,450
love to hear.
Them because what helps you

586
00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:06,910
avoid burnout?
But we still see so many staff

587
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,420
say, I am just completely burned
out, I am doing way too much.

588
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,050
And although a lot of that can
be down to the school you work

589
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:17,170
for, it can be down to policies,
can be down to what management

590
00:23:17,180 --> 00:23:20,010
expect from you.
There is always a chunk of that

591
00:23:20,020 --> 00:23:23,060
burnout which is under your
control, and I think taking back

592
00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:26,300
control of that and empowering
teachers is really important.

593
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:29,320
So we're gonna go through right
now, we've got three top tips

594
00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:33,680
each on how to battle and tackle
that burnout.

595
00:23:33,690 --> 00:23:35,140
How can you actually help
yourself?

596
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:38,520
What can you do which is almost
irrelevant to the external?

597
00:23:38,530 --> 00:23:40,570
Factors we've not, we've not
shared our points with each

598
00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:41,670
other.
So I just want to ask you now to

599
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,110
make sure on the same page, are
your three things things that

600
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,890
you have done, things that
you've done over the years and

601
00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:48,730
experience?
Yes.

602
00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:52,110
Because I I know that we've had
a few before where we've given

603
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:55,010
advice out and we've said even
we could do with taking this

604
00:23:55,020 --> 00:23:56,030
advice ourselves.
Yeah.

605
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,430
So that that's, you know, that's
useful advice, of course.

606
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,890
But this is real advice.
This is, this is something.

607
00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:03,070
Now you're listening to teachers
who have been teaching for nine

608
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,890
years and eight years and have
gone through the mill and these

609
00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:08,830
are things that genuinely worked
for us.

610
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,970
So yeah, do you know what?
I also moved to school.

611
00:24:12,340 --> 00:24:15,790
So I was feeling burned out.
If there's if there's just too

612
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,490
much going on, that's out of
your control, the ultimate thing

613
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:20,690
is to try somewhere else,
because there are different

614
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:23,460
schools are different amounts.
Of the rules should be if they

615
00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:26,270
hear these six points, Yeah.
And think I wouldn't be able to

616
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,260
do, let's say, three or more of
them because my school would

617
00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:31,350
block it.
Yeah.

618
00:24:31,580 --> 00:24:34,180
Then maybe, yeah, maybe you're
in one of those sort of toxic

619
00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:36,190
schools, because I think we
could do all six of these and it

620
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:36,870
would be a.
Problem.

621
00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,650
Yeah, completely.
I don't know what yours are, but

622
00:24:38,660 --> 00:24:41,620
I can say.
I think, I think it's just gotta

623
00:24:41,630 --> 00:24:44,650
be it's about realistic and some
of this does require you to just

624
00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:48,060
take that step and kind of say
no sometimes, but we'll get

625
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:49,530
into.
That anyway you gonna start.

626
00:24:49,540 --> 00:24:52,670
I'll start.
So my first tip, well, we'll do

627
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,890
this.
We'll just give the tips out.

628
00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:56,360
We'll have a discussion.
See if we both do them and how

629
00:24:56,370 --> 00:24:57,720
helpful they might be.
OK, sounds good.

630
00:24:57,730 --> 00:25:03,480
So my first tip #1.
This is something I see a lot of

631
00:25:03,490 --> 00:25:06,500
staff do.
Top tip #1, to avoid buying out.

632
00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:10,520
Check that you're actually
following school policy and do

633
00:25:10,530 --> 00:25:13,980
not go above and beyond where
you don't have to.

634
00:25:14,030 --> 00:25:17,640
Now that's controversial because
above and beyond, we hear this

635
00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:19,500
thing all the time about
teachings of vocation.

636
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:21,030
We go above and beyond for those
kids.

637
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:25,150
All of the kind of airy fairy
stuff where you make those

638
00:25:25,230 --> 00:25:27,470
fantastic connections with the
children, which can't really be

639
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,380
written in the policy.
That's not what I'm talking

640
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:31,400
about.
Yeah, I'm specifically talking

641
00:25:31,410 --> 00:25:33,960
about policies.
Where you've got marking

642
00:25:33,970 --> 00:25:37,550
policies, you've got planning
policies, you've got policies

643
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,910
around what you're expected to
do as a teacher.

644
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,580
Yeah, Yeah, you've got to follow
them.

645
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:45,290
So the example I've got here,
for example, 1:00, I've got an

646
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:46,440
example as well.
And I want to hear your.

647
00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:48,060
Yes.
So my one is marking.

648
00:25:48,190 --> 00:25:50,090
Mine is different.
OK, so I've got a few examples.

649
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,500
Obviously you can come in as
well, so I want to get across

650
00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:55,110
what I mean here.
When I say marking, we know we

651
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:57,170
have to mark.
We can have a whole discussion

652
00:25:57,180 --> 00:25:59,680
about how useful written
feedback is.

653
00:25:59,770 --> 00:26:01,380
I don't think it's very useful
at all.

654
00:26:01,450 --> 00:26:04,080
However, I see a lot of staff
doing this and I've seen it in

655
00:26:04,090 --> 00:26:08,610
schools worked out myself.
Where you know, are you

656
00:26:08,620 --> 00:26:12,850
following the policy are policy
for writing is very stripped

657
00:26:12,860 --> 00:26:16,050
back.
When we give feedback, you can

658
00:26:16,060 --> 00:26:20,250
just give it in single words.
You can just say use your next

659
00:26:20,260 --> 00:26:22,210
steps down or whatever you want
to do, or just write down

660
00:26:22,220 --> 00:26:25,160
conjunctions, what you don't
need to do for every single

661
00:26:25,170 --> 00:26:26,520
person.
And you might find yourself

662
00:26:26,530 --> 00:26:28,410
doing this because I did when I
was an input and I was an

663
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,570
experienced teacher, I'd write
in someone's book.

664
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,210
You have used conjunctions
beautifully in this piece of

665
00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:35,350
writing.
Next time, why don't you think

666
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,900
about adding some extra detail
using parentheses?

667
00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:41,220
And actually your school policy
at the time marking policy was

668
00:26:41,230 --> 00:26:43,100
you don't need to do that.
You can just put this little

669
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:46,020
symbol that we've made-up that
means that exactly and this one

670
00:26:46,030 --> 00:26:47,460
word exactly.
So let's do that.

671
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:48,600
Just follow the policy.
Yeah.

672
00:26:48,610 --> 00:26:51,000
Look at your marking policy.
Do you have to write down a

673
00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:52,440
paragraph for every piece of
work?

674
00:26:52,510 --> 00:26:54,700
It might be that you do, and
that's a separate conversation.

675
00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:57,580
But for a lot of people,
actually, ohh, it's just nice to

676
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:59,540
write in for the kids.
They can't read it.

677
00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:01,230
They don't know.
It's not affecting their

678
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,680
learning at all.
Have a priority list there.

679
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:05,440
Am I actually following the
policy?

680
00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:05,930
Yeah.
Nice.

681
00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:06,540
What's your?
One.

682
00:27:06,550 --> 00:27:07,900
I've got one.
Very different, actually.

683
00:27:07,910 --> 00:27:10,780
Totally different thing avenue,
I guess of thinking.

684
00:27:10,790 --> 00:27:13,380
But when I started teaching,
yeah, I very much thought it

685
00:27:13,390 --> 00:27:16,730
wasn't above and beyond thing.
Yeah, at break times to go out

686
00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:19,620
and sort of like mingle with the
kids and like, yeah, be with

687
00:27:19,630 --> 00:27:22,190
them like more than just my one.
I had one break duty a week and

688
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,560
a lot of schools.
I like that you might have more,

689
00:27:24,170 --> 00:27:26,490
and yeah, but I'd often find
myself going out, sometimes even

690
00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:28,270
at lunchtime.
For a little love me, love me.

691
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,280
Yeah, in a way.
But I also, I also had in the

692
00:27:30,290 --> 00:27:31,880
back of my mind.
This looks good.

693
00:27:31,930 --> 00:27:33,120
Yeah.
You know the school are going to

694
00:27:33,130 --> 00:27:35,260
think, oh look at that teacher.
He's going above and beyond to

695
00:27:35,270 --> 00:27:38,100
make bonds of his kids.
I didn't need to do that,

696
00:27:38,110 --> 00:27:38,800
actually.
Really.

697
00:27:38,810 --> 00:27:40,510
I just.
I then just gave myself more

698
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,140
markings to the end of the day
and just extended my day.

699
00:27:43,150 --> 00:27:45,390
I could have just not.
So I stopped that after a while.

700
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,730
I almost never go out now unless
it's my break duty because I'm

701
00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:49,700
like, no, this is my time.
I need to get other stuff done.

702
00:27:49,770 --> 00:27:51,290
I have to.
Yeah, because otherwise it goes

703
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:52,800
somewhere else.
And that's what I mean by above

704
00:27:52,810 --> 00:27:55,120
and beyond.
I don't mean in the classic time

705
00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:58,160
of like making those amazing
bonding policy was the policy

706
00:27:58,170 --> 00:27:59,410
one break juicy.
Exactly.

707
00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:02,760
So just just just do 11 break.
Another big one that I see of a

708
00:28:02,770 --> 00:28:05,790
lot of people who say ohh, I'm
just really struggling with

709
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,500
burnout.
And I'll say to ohh yeah, don't

710
00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:11,580
you do a club after school?
Yeah, yeah, do do.

711
00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:13,420
Is that policy?
Do we have to do a club?

712
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:16,960
No, but it's just for the kids
I'm afraid Guys, at some point

713
00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:19,900
you have to look after yourself
if you are feeling really burnt

714
00:28:19,910 --> 00:28:21,530
out.
That's one of the first things

715
00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:23,830
that has to go if you do an
after school club or a lunchtime

716
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,740
club and you're not being
compensated for it and it pushes

717
00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:29,070
your marking down the line and
it means you stay in school.

718
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,850
You don't have to.
Do it and you don't have to do

719
00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:32,600
it.
It's one of those decisions

720
00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:35,170
where I know deep down in our
hearts, cause we're all

721
00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:37,840
teachers, we love helping the
children and we love these kind

722
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:41,110
of enrichment activities.
We can't take that load when

723
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,150
they're not funded properly.
We can't be the people to take

724
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,360
on that extra thing.
If there's other stuff you have

725
00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:49,070
to do and you're feeling burnt
out, look at your policies.

726
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,070
Do you have to be doing
everything you're doing?

727
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,710
Can you skim on some time by
simply following the policy and

728
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,010
doing a good job?
I think a big thing we're going

729
00:28:57,020 --> 00:29:00,020
to have in this chat, Hayden, is
redefining what it means to do

730
00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:02,680
your job well.
Yeah, it does not mean that you

731
00:29:02,690 --> 00:29:06,060
have to live up to this
Instagram or until an amazing

732
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:07,940
team.
No, you can do a really good.

733
00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:10,740
Job, but just following your
school policies, teaching the

734
00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:12,900
kids well, and I think that's
what this point is.

735
00:29:12,910 --> 00:29:15,770
Do you think back in the 90s
that some of the teachers were

736
00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:18,990
good at their job, Fantastic.
They worked considerably less

737
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,550
hours than we did and they were
still good if we all agree on

738
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,710
that, but there were some good
teachers back then.

739
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,290
We didn't have PPA back in our
day.

740
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:27,000
Yeah, you didn't have to find
everything.

741
00:29:27,010 --> 00:29:28,790
Right.
If we do think the definition of

742
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,890
been a good teacher is doing all
this above and beyond stuff, and

743
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:32,290
it does make you a better
teacher.

744
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:33,500
Yeah.
What we're saying is that every

745
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:35,650
teacher that didn't used to do
that basically more than two

746
00:29:35,660 --> 00:29:37,340
decades ago was terrible.
And it's like, no, they were.

747
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:38,440
They were terrible.
They were, really.

748
00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:40,230
Good, not at all.
And I think the last one here

749
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,560
it's going to lead in because a
bit of a for our listeners here

750
00:29:44,570 --> 00:29:46,990
we've I know the theme of
Hayden, so I can order them.

751
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,290
Hayden has no idea what I've
written down, but this kind of

752
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:51,290
leads into your one.
So the last point I'll make and

753
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:52,450
then you go into your second
one.

754
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,450
Another policy is to do with
planning.

755
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,210
Do you have a scheme?
Can you use it?

756
00:29:57,220 --> 00:29:58,580
Is there planning that already
exists?

757
00:29:58,590 --> 00:30:00,240
Is there stuff on the area that
you can use?

758
00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:03,390
Yeah, Don't reinvent the wheel.
Follow your policies.

759
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,780
So that's my #1 tip.
Look at your policies.

760
00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:08,420
Refresh your brain.
Are you following them?

761
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:11,060
Are you doing too much when you
simply don't have to?

762
00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:12,400
It's an easy way.
Nice.

763
00:30:12,410 --> 00:30:16,700
Well, tip #2 on avoiding burnout
nicely links on from tip #1 Drop

764
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:21,040
the pride, Drop the pride, and
use resources from other people.

765
00:30:21,270 --> 00:30:24,490
Just do it OK.
Sometimes they haven't used the

766
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:27,230
font that I like or I like to
put boxes around these things on

767
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,290
my notebooks.
This worksheet, when I trim it,

768
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:32,820
doesn't have.
I like to put the boxes around

769
00:30:32,830 --> 00:30:34,490
this bit on the worksheet so it
fits nicely.

770
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,250
Do you know what?
You don't have to change it.

771
00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:40,150
You don't have to.
I promise you a week later

772
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,570
you'll forget about it.
The kids won't have ever known

773
00:30:42,580 --> 00:30:45,650
any different anyway, and as
long as I get the same out of,

774
00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:47,850
it doesn't really matter.
Does it really matter?

775
00:30:47,860 --> 00:30:51,330
I used to spend so much time,
and I know you did as well

776
00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:54,710
because we used to plan together
back in our NQT days.

777
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,480
Almost became a competition we
could.

778
00:30:57,490 --> 00:30:59,990
Spend so much time on our white
notebooks and a lot of that time

779
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,770
really was just just the
positioning of stuff.

780
00:31:02,780 --> 00:31:04,870
Format green and the formatting.
And I want to put a box.

781
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,210
I want to get this nice little
tip box.

782
00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:07,390
In the box.
But do you remember?

783
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,720
Because we we used to spend ages
planning, right?

784
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,570
And we'd get to the end of
making our smart and our our

785
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:14,990
both of our like our our our
thought process then.

786
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,660
But I've gotta make the
worksheet now.

787
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,970
Sorry, what the task.
The most important thing.

788
00:31:20,260 --> 00:31:22,230
If you're actually going to
spend time planning properly, it

789
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,430
has to be at the task.
Yeah, I've made some artsy

790
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,980
fartsy smites, but this 16
slides in a row that through

791
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:29,090
these funny things he doesn't.
I'll tell you what, it took me a

792
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,720
long time, some years, but I
have finally dropped that pride.

793
00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:34,180
And now I when I look at
resource, I think what the kids

794
00:31:34,190 --> 00:31:35,990
actually get out of it.
Yeah, they don't care about the

795
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,480
presentation.
Honestly, they don't.

796
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:39,540
People might tell you they were
all we gotta make it look good.

797
00:31:39,550 --> 00:31:41,870
They don't care.
They just don't.

798
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,820
And there's some people out
there, right, who take pride in

799
00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:47,700
their in their resources, and
they love that, that aesthetic

800
00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:49,560
and things.
And if they're not feeling burnt

801
00:31:49,570 --> 00:31:51,960
out and that's part of what they
enjoy doing, don't change

802
00:31:51,970 --> 00:31:52,850
anything.
It's lovely.

803
00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:53,920
And if you're not?
Saying it's bad.

804
00:31:53,930 --> 00:31:57,040
If you're feeling burnt out ask
for their resources use theirs.

805
00:31:57,050 --> 00:32:00,020
And that's that's that's kind of
overarching point here is if

806
00:32:00,030 --> 00:32:02,530
there is stuff available.
Yeah from other people even just

807
00:32:02,540 --> 00:32:04,560
the Internet.
Whatever you go on Tees or you

808
00:32:04,570 --> 00:32:06,870
go on twinkle or whatever your
subscriptions you've got if

809
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760
there's stuff available and
you've looked for it and quality

810
00:32:08,770 --> 00:32:10,750
control it and you think it's
good to use it because you're a

811
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,200
professional use it.
You're a professional.

812
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:14,950
You can make that judgement call
have you ever before because

813
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,640
I've done this loads of times
and every time I do it I'm

814
00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:18,260
thinking what the hell am I
doing?

815
00:32:18,610 --> 00:32:23,200
Snipped a PowerPoint so like
screen shotted a PowerPoint onto

816
00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:26,200
my smart notebook.
Basically slide for slide just

817
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:27,820
so that it's not a Twinkle
PowerPoint.

818
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:30,540
Anyone who doesn't know SMART
Notebook is like PowerPoint, but

819
00:32:30,550 --> 00:32:32,270
a lot of schools is it law
schools down, it's more

820
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,730
interactive.
I've changed everything.

821
00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:35,790
I've changed now.
Like in terms of we use White

822
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,860
Rose maths if a power.
So let's say we're doing

823
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:41,580
fractions right.
I could sit and make all these

824
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,090
equal spaced out lines and these
beautiful graphs and these

825
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:48,670
pictures that, yeah, all this
pictorial stuff that moves.

826
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,110
Or I could just use the
PowerPoint that exists.

827
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,570
So you know, I'm just gonna put
a slide and say see PowerPoint

828
00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:56,890
for my own reference.
I jump over to the PowerPoint

829
00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:58,520
and guess what?
The kids get the same learning

830
00:32:58,530 --> 00:32:59,730
experience.
Actually, yeah, they get a

831
00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:02,300
better learning experience.
Yeah, because it exists, is made

832
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:04,260
by professionals, other maths
specialists.

833
00:33:04,270 --> 00:33:06,940
It's already there.
It doesn't need to look like my

834
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:07,840
lesson.
It doesn't.

835
00:33:07,850 --> 00:33:09,760
Matter.
So to summarise then, my first

836
00:33:09,770 --> 00:33:12,200
point.
So point #2 on avoiding burnout,

837
00:33:12,610 --> 00:33:15,060
Don't be too proud.
Use other resources.

838
00:33:15,070 --> 00:33:16,880
Don't worry too much about what
it looks like.

839
00:33:17,070 --> 00:33:19,770
Definitely.
So tip #3, I guess we're going

840
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:21,740
123.
We've got six in total.

841
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:24,580
This one is.
Again, I'm only giving stuff

842
00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:26,740
I've used because I found it
really useful.

843
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:31,540
So tip #3, avoid burnout by
spreading your classroom mental

844
00:33:31,550 --> 00:33:34,660
load.
Spread that out amongst people,

845
00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:37,220
either support staff or actual
children.

846
00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:39,370
So what I mean here is burn them
out.

847
00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:43,440
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
What I mean here is as a

848
00:33:43,450 --> 00:33:45,680
classroom teacher, you are a
manager.

849
00:33:45,770 --> 00:33:48,310
You are a manager.
You're in charge of that

850
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,870
particular classroom.
You have children to manage.

851
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,490
You might have support staff to
manage sometimes, probably not

852
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,530
all the time, knowing funding as
it is right now.

853
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,840
But that is a big cognitive load
that you've got to carry.

854
00:33:58,850 --> 00:34:00,310
Yeah.
And especially when you're

855
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,290
getting incentives, sorry,
initiatives from SLT or you've

856
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:06,370
got lots of policies to follow.
Like we've said, you look at the

857
00:34:06,380 --> 00:34:07,290
policies.
Well, OK.

858
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:09,750
But I've still got to do a
visual timetable every day.

859
00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:12,370
I've still got to make sure that
these letters get handed out at

860
00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:14,830
the end of every day.
I am scatty.

861
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:18,889
I am terrible if there's a pile
of letters on my desk and that

862
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:22,159
comes at lunchtime because it's
not come within two minutes of

863
00:34:22,170 --> 00:34:24,540
having to be done, it will be
forgotten about and left on my.

864
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:26,500
Desk How?
What's the percentage rate?

865
00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:28,449
Do you reckon you actually hand
out a letter on the day you?

866
00:34:28,460 --> 00:34:30,190
Get it's 5050.
It's 50.

867
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:30,770
Pretty good.
Yeah.

868
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:34,100
It's like 10%, no.
It's it's pretty good because

869
00:34:34,110 --> 00:34:36,520
it's got it's improved because I
followed this advice.

870
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,040
So my tip when I say spread the
mental load is give your kids in

871
00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:43,400
your class jobs if there are low
stakes jobs that you've got to

872
00:34:43,409 --> 00:34:47,550
remember every single day, but
anyone could do them, IE fixing

873
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,610
the visual timetable.
My class, now, since we talked

874
00:34:50,620 --> 00:34:53,659
about it a few episodes ago, we
used a visual timetable every

875
00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:54,360
single day.
Yeah.

876
00:34:54,370 --> 00:34:56,139
Do you know why?
Because there's one boy in my

877
00:34:56,150 --> 00:34:57,720
class who I've given that job
to.

878
00:34:57,830 --> 00:34:59,910
Every single morning, he comes
up to me and says what we're

879
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,000
doing today and he points at the
visual timetable.

880
00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:04,960
And every single morning I go,
ohh, yeah, it's this.

881
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:07,230
I don't have to do it anymore.
I'll just say to him science and

882
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:08,840
he'll sort it all out while he's
going on.

883
00:35:08,930 --> 00:35:12,280
Meanwhile, there are two people
who go over to my book corner

884
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,550
and make sure that's all tidy
because he's in the book corner.

885
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,720
Yeah.
Meanwhile, there's a rotation of

886
00:35:16,730 --> 00:35:19,120
people who are taking my lunch
register around.

887
00:35:19,230 --> 00:35:21,260
There's a rotation of people who
are taking the lunch trolley to

888
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:23,370
the hall.
And there's a rotation of people

889
00:35:23,530 --> 00:35:25,530
who are sorting out books to be
returned to their library.

890
00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:27,250
Yeah, so there's a box now of
books.

891
00:35:27,260 --> 00:35:29,290
There's someone who walked
around and say any books to be

892
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,210
collected up, all automated.
All of these jobs were jobs that

893
00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:34,520
just simply wouldn't have
happened or I'd forget.

894
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:36,070
Because you know what I've got
in the morning.

895
00:35:36,110 --> 00:35:37,490
I've got to make sure the kids
are OK.

896
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:39,210
There's someone is coming,
crying because something

897
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:39,960
happens.
Ready.

898
00:35:41,580 --> 00:35:43,630
You know, printing, trimming.
I can do that before the kids

899
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,510
come in.
But when?

900
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,650
When I've got 32 children in
front of me, do you know my

901
00:35:46,660 --> 00:35:48,270
priority is making sure they're
OK?

902
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,830
It's talking to them.
It's catching up with them.

903
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,940
It might be doing a bit of input
of one of them who missed

904
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:55,050
something yesterday.
It's doing the register.

905
00:35:55,060 --> 00:35:57,210
It's making sure they get the
hot school dinners if they need

906
00:35:57,220 --> 00:35:59,720
hot school dinners.
All of these things are tied up

907
00:35:59,730 --> 00:36:01,990
in my priority list.
Then everything else that needs

908
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,410
to.
Happen.

909
00:36:02,420 --> 00:36:05,710
So say your point here is
delegate.

910
00:36:05,860 --> 00:36:07,560
Don't be afraid to delegate.
Yeah, don't be afraid.

911
00:36:07,570 --> 00:36:09,860
Sometimes we think, oh, I
better, I better do that because

912
00:36:09,870 --> 00:36:10,710
I'm a teacher.
No.

913
00:36:10,780 --> 00:36:12,210
Yeah, no.
If someone else can do it, get

914
00:36:12,220 --> 00:36:14,080
them to do it.
So like if you're in a staff

915
00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:16,910
meeting, right, and someone.
And then for example, let's say

916
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,400
you don't do visual timetable,
but you're in the staff meeting.

917
00:36:19,410 --> 00:36:21,450
And then your SRT said, OK guys,
we're all gonna do visual

918
00:36:21,460 --> 00:36:24,630
timetable from now.
Instead of going, oh God, I'm so

919
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,340
burnt out already, how am I
going to do that?

920
00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:29,630
Try and change your mindset
because that's going to help you

921
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,840
in the long run.
Your mindset can now be OK, how

922
00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:34,390
can I make that work for me?
OK, I'm going to make that work

923
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,420
for me because the resources
team are making it for everyone.

924
00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:39,180
Thank you.
But I've still got to do it

925
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:40,240
everyday.
Do you know what?

926
00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:44,140
I'm gonna put that out to a kid
because a child can easily do

927
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:46,160
that job that you know a child
can't do.

928
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:47,520
And I still wouldn't trust him
to do.

929
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,020
I'm sure they could if we
trained them.

930
00:36:49,070 --> 00:36:51,430
But I still, at the minute I'm
gonna write down who needs hot

931
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,500
school lunches because if
someone messes up their dinner,

932
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:55,020
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna feel awful that

933
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:57,060
actually I put a nine year old
in charge of that.

934
00:36:57,130 --> 00:36:58,960
That's my job in the morning.
But you know what?

935
00:36:58,970 --> 00:37:02,420
These five other jobs, no.
And if there are some jobs that

936
00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:05,380
an adult needs to do, maybe it's
changing a display, getting some

937
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:07,890
staples down, something maybe
where it's a bit more involved

938
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:10,060
with safety or just know how of
an adult.

939
00:37:10,070 --> 00:37:12,070
Umm, do you know what?
I'll wait for my support staff

940
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,670
to come in.
Yeah, I actually, I know I've

941
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,920
got support staff in English
today, so that job can wait.

942
00:37:15,930 --> 00:37:18,280
Till then, I'll write it down.
Here you go, because I've got a

943
00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:21,370
nice relationship with my Tias.
Or before we do anything while

944
00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:23,290
I'm doing the input, would you
mind just going and sorting out

945
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:25,210
this for me?
Did you, did you, early on in

946
00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:28,080
your career like me, find it
really hard to delegate to

947
00:37:28,090 --> 00:37:30,780
staff?
Yeah, I still, honestly, and

948
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:32,780
hopefully this helps people who
are less experienced than I was

949
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:35,700
eight or nine years.
I still really struggle with

950
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,110
managing people.
Yeah.

951
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,050
In terms of I I still feel
awkward.

952
00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:41,210
I feel like I'm I'm there equal.
Yeah.

953
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,800
I don't like the idea of me
being the manager of the club

954
00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:45,230
and I'm managing them.
It is what it.

955
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,670
Is like you're above them in.
Terms of fire and school you

956
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,490
know for a for a teacher who's
Essex experience who's like 2-3

957
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:53,130
years in they might have a has
been at the school for 30 years

958
00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:55,720
yeah and and you know that TA
knows exactly what's going on

959
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:58,050
and sometimes can be a bit
overpowering We've seen remember

960
00:37:58,060 --> 00:37:58,680
yeah.
Completely.

961
00:37:58,690 --> 00:38:00,880
I remember my first, and I'm
gonna name them because I just

962
00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:03,230
love these people.
Yeah, my first year of teaching,

963
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,510
I had two TA that was working
with the work with me.

964
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,040
One was Mike Brown, who I'm
still lovely, lovely man.

965
00:38:08,250 --> 00:38:10,200
They way more experience than I
was at the time.

966
00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:14,450
And another one, Another one was
Jeffrey, who was like one of the

967
00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:17,000
most incredible teaching.
I've gotta say right now, Angela

968
00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:21,380
Angie Laffey is that archetypal.
You know TA, Who is a better

969
00:38:21,390 --> 00:38:23,400
teacher?
Than any Yeah, so good, so good.

970
00:38:23,410 --> 00:38:25,100
And they were my first gas,
right?

971
00:38:25,150 --> 00:38:27,780
Helping me out on a daily basis.
And I have so much imposter

972
00:38:27,790 --> 00:38:30,780
syndrome thinking I'm
technically supposed to be like

973
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:33,060
in charge, like telling you guys
what to do, but you know

974
00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:36,740
everything better than I do.
And I think that since then it

975
00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:39,070
took me, it took me many, many
years, I think to get to the

976
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,170
point where that no longer
infiltrated my brain.

977
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:43,810
Whenever I thought I do kind of
need an adult to help me with

978
00:38:43,820 --> 00:38:45,970
this, I'll just do it myself
because I don't want to ask them

979
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:48,010
now.
I think I'm better at being like

980
00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:49,690
actually, you know what?
We're A-Team.

981
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:53,140
Yes, One of us has got to manage
this team in terms of like me

982
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:56,190
and my TA or me and a couple of
teams that work in our in our

983
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,640
year group.
Obviously our year leader has

984
00:38:58,650 --> 00:39:01,390
that overarching role.
But I can also just say, oh,

985
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,410
what are you doing?
Have you got an hour spare this

986
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,940
afternoon?
Can you, could you mind getting

987
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:06,150
this job done?
Coolant.

988
00:39:06,260 --> 00:39:08,300
Yeah, There you go.
Now there's an hour I don't have

989
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:09,900
to do after school.
Now they're doing it in their

990
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:11,310
paid time.
Exactly, as long as it's.

991
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,070
Free.
Exactly.

992
00:39:12,140 --> 00:39:13,410
So yeah, that's my, that's my
point.

993
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:15,730
Now Delegate, I think we all
know it's tricky to delegate to

994
00:39:15,740 --> 00:39:18,570
adults, but something that
transformed it for me was just

995
00:39:18,580 --> 00:39:21,480
delegated to your kids.
Your kids are more reliable than

996
00:39:21,490 --> 00:39:24,740
you ever could imagine it.
And when it's their job, they're

997
00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:26,690
not going to forget it.
They've got one job to remember

998
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:28,930
and they do it every day.
And I trust you, they love it.

999
00:39:28,940 --> 00:39:30,950
Yeah.
If you ask your kids to do a

1000
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,150
favour, you'll get everyone's
hand go up straight away.

1001
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,910
So yeah, just just delegate out
if you're feeling burnt out.

1002
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,350
How much of these jobs can you
give to someone else?

1003
00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:40,290
And then you know what?
It's not in my head anymore.

1004
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,530
I'd have to get frustrated
because they're running.

1005
00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:43,980
Just remember to be fair as
well.

1006
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:46,340
Obviously we say that say that
given these drugs to other

1007
00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:48,490
people, as long as they've got
the capacity to take it, you

1008
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,710
don't just pass the burnout.
Some I'm talking about children

1009
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,920
in classrooms, those little
media jobs like that, that's.

1010
00:39:52,930 --> 00:39:54,540
Just wanna make that clear.
I don't want to listen to that

1011
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:56,500
and be like, oh, they're just
saying get someone else to.

1012
00:39:56,510 --> 00:39:58,720
Have.
And when I say I mean, I mean

1013
00:39:58,730 --> 00:40:01,300
that like you know we've said
real time if they've got time

1014
00:40:01,310 --> 00:40:03,720
and that's something that can
help you and you want more

1015
00:40:03,730 --> 00:40:05,610
often.
Ohh, bloody lovely.

1016
00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:07,260
Yeah, they'll be like, yeah, of
course I can.

1017
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:09,850
They ask me.
How bad I am at this, that

1018
00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:11,430
they'll ask me, is there
anything I can do?

1019
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,000
And I'm like, oh, I don't.
Know ohh I've not thought about

1020
00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:13,820
it.
I don't.

1021
00:40:13,830 --> 00:40:16,480
Know actually have the 17 things
get a bit more organised.

1022
00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:18,190
It's helped me a lot.
So that's my second tip.

1023
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,110
Tip free.
Right, tip #4, avoiding burnout.

1024
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,390
This is probably my favourite
tip.

1025
00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:24,610
I've been doing this for years
and I'm still improving at it.

1026
00:40:24,620 --> 00:40:27,150
I'm not a great and it is.
Called Go part time.

1027
00:40:28,530 --> 00:40:32,050
That's a great tip, planning for
marking and what I mean plan.

1028
00:40:32,060 --> 00:40:35,370
What I mean by planning for
marking is consider the marking

1029
00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:38,830
load at the point in which you
plan your day, or you plan your

1030
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,820
lessons or you plan your week.
However, whatever your planning

1031
00:40:40,830 --> 00:40:46,130
process is, genuinely build into
your thought process of how long

1032
00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:51,320
will it take to mark this.
And if you're organised enough,

1033
00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:54,710
you can get to a point where you
make sure that there are no days

1034
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,710
where you end up with that
horrible triple triple marking

1035
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:58,890
bird.
You know, you know, you've done

1036
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:00,560
your morning lesson, it's that
that's a big mark.

1037
00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:01,630
Then you've got your English
lesson.

1038
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,970
Whatever it is, it's a big mark.
And then you do your afternoon

1039
00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:05,200
lesson.
It just happens to be quite a

1040
00:41:05,210 --> 00:41:07,410
big mark load as well.
And you think, Oh no.

1041
00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:09,350
Afternoon where you've spit two
lessons into.

1042
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,570
The afternoon something
quadruple there, yeah.

1043
00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:13,450
And you've got like all this
marking to do.

1044
00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:16,870
I'd say probably like now less
than two times a term.

1045
00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:19,630
Do I accidentally let that
happen to me because our plan

1046
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,840
for marketing?
How would you do that?

1047
00:41:20,850 --> 00:41:23,260
Let's say you've got, you've got
a day ahead of you, so for

1048
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:25,620
anyone again it doesn't know,
primary school staff will have

1049
00:41:25,630 --> 00:41:27,810
one afternoon called PA.
We're out of the classroom.

1050
00:41:27,820 --> 00:41:29,800
We don't do any marking, so
that's kind of done for itself.

1051
00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:31,260
Yeah.
We might have another day

1052
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:33,380
perhaps where we're doing like
PE or something or something,

1053
00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:36,160
something where it's built in
that there is no actual physical

1054
00:41:36,170 --> 00:41:38,500
marking.
But how do you avoid it on those

1055
00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:41,120
days where let's say you know,
you've got to teach history in

1056
00:41:41,130 --> 00:41:43,540
the afternoon, you've got maths
and English in the morning.

1057
00:41:43,950 --> 00:41:47,100
How can you actually do that and
and try and avoid your burnout

1058
00:41:47,110 --> 00:41:50,170
staying, staying late without
making a detriment to the kids

1059
00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:53,210
because the the thing people
might say to you there is OK,

1060
00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:55,520
well what do they not do any
work then how how are we gonna

1061
00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:56,630
make sure?
What do you mean?

1062
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,780
Like I've I've got a plan for
marking, but how do you do that

1063
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:59,330
a?
Couple of things.

1064
00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:01,690
So first of all, I think you
need to be really confident with

1065
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,810
knowing your weekly timetable.
It has to come from a weekly

1066
00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:06,170
perspective, right?
You know which days you have

1067
00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:08,920
more time on.
For example, on PPA day, I

1068
00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:12,220
always make sure if I am going
to do some big marking in maths

1069
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:14,620
and English is that day because
I've got all of PPA and I've got

1070
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:17,010
no afternoon lesson to market.
So that day I don't mind.

1071
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:18,530
I'll always make sure that
that's fine.

1072
00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:21,260
I can just mark those as the
biggest set of marking need.

1073
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:23,620
Whatever.
But on the days, and there's

1074
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:25,620
another day where we'll do
things in the afternoon where

1075
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:26,720
it's not, we're not marking
anyway.

1076
00:42:26,730 --> 00:42:30,020
Things like PE, music, music,
like those kind of subjects.

1077
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:32,240
If we do them, there's not
really any marking involved

1078
00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:33,240
anyway.
There might be a little bit of

1079
00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:34,940
assessment.
So those days I also think

1080
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:37,640
right, if I did have bigger
marking in the morning, that's

1081
00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:40,380
not as much of a problem.
So we're down to like two or

1082
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:43,340
three days of the week where you
might have maybe maths, English

1083
00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:45,560
and then like a geography lesson
or something like that in the

1084
00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:47,400
afternoon.
And for those lessons at the

1085
00:42:47,410 --> 00:42:50,120
beginning of the week I'm
already planning ahead on, I

1086
00:42:50,130 --> 00:42:53,040
think it's acceptable to have
one or two practical lessons in

1087
00:42:53,050 --> 00:42:54,610
the week.
Maybe one in maths, one in one

1088
00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:56,370
in English, where we don't do
anything in the books.

1089
00:42:56,540 --> 00:42:58,770
And I'll plan that.
I don't be afraid to do that.

1090
00:42:58,780 --> 00:43:01,170
But like, no.
On Thursday I know that we're

1091
00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:03,130
doing a big bit of writing in
English.

1092
00:43:03,260 --> 00:43:05,330
There's going to take me a while
to mark and we've got some dog

1093
00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:06,450
in the afternoon.
So you know what?

1094
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:09,470
In maths I'm going to make sure
that whatever I had planned for

1095
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,230
that day, we're going to do it
in a practical way.

1096
00:43:11,290 --> 00:43:12,950
And I'm not going to be left
with marking.

1097
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,810
And I'm not afraid to do that
because you know what?

1098
00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:16,310
It's OK.
And guess what, guys?

1099
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,370
Markings the least important,
least effective part of teaching

1100
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:21,690
anyway.
So really, it's not going to

1101
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:23,840
have that much impact as long as
you still teach a lesson well

1102
00:43:23,850 --> 00:43:25,800
and they're still doing a task
of some sort.

1103
00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:27,500
You don't have to have maths in
the book to have LIKE.

1104
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:30,000
Maths, no.
And the final point is with

1105
00:43:30,010 --> 00:43:32,060
marking.
I kind of see there's two types

1106
00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:33,430
of marking.
There's quick marking and

1107
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,280
there's long marking.
And I consider maths generally,

1108
00:43:36,330 --> 00:43:38,300
for, at least in our system,
maths is a quick.

1109
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:40,980
Mark Definitely, pretty much
always do you find with maths in

1110
00:43:40,990 --> 00:43:44,150
our system again we've we've
kind of not mould I guess we've

1111
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,040
moulded over the years haven't
we Where our aim now is teachers

1112
00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:51,460
work for a break.
You know, flash news flash that

1113
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:54,040
teachers would be able to mark
mass always within their break

1114
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:55,230
time.
If they wanted to.

1115
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:58,320
So basically 15 minutes maximum.
Yeah because we self marking

1116
00:43:58,330 --> 00:44:00,670
maths.
And then the idea is if because

1117
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,530
they've self marked you can just
kind of have a quick flick

1118
00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:04,780
through and pick up
misconceptions or whatever.

1119
00:44:04,830 --> 00:44:07,310
But it's quick.
Now if I happen that I do this

1120
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,760
on the spot sometimes and don't
be afraid again to do this, just

1121
00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:12,540
adapt and change your week on
the spot.

1122
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:16,040
Even on the day I have before I
finished the math lesson and

1123
00:44:16,050 --> 00:44:18,460
it's not quite gone to plan.
We've not ended up self marking

1124
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:20,860
and I've thought that's a big
mark now because they didn't

1125
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:23,280
really get that they've done
some work in their books, we've

1126
00:44:23,290 --> 00:44:25,240
not self marked.
It's going to take me ages now

1127
00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:28,000
to mark that so I get to the
next session which is English

1128
00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:30,120
and in before I get before I
start that lesson.

1129
00:44:30,130 --> 00:44:32,760
I've got break time.
My my thought is cool, how can I

1130
00:44:32,770 --> 00:44:34,420
how can I now make this lesson
practical?

1131
00:44:34,510 --> 00:44:38,340
Because I'm not prepared to take
books home and that is a rule I

1132
00:44:38,350 --> 00:44:42,090
have.
If I get to 5:30 and there's

1133
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:45,360
marking that hasn't been done, I
have failed myself that day.

1134
00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:47,980
I've not organised my day
properly and I will not take it

1135
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:48,760
home.
I'm not going to Mark.

1136
00:44:48,770 --> 00:44:51,700
I think that's that's really
good because I think with a lot

1137
00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:55,240
of these lists, sometimes I hear
people say things like tip 4

1138
00:44:55,310 --> 00:44:57,440
don't take marking home.
You could have said that Then

1139
00:44:57,490 --> 00:44:59,610
your tip could have been done
marking home, Yeah.

1140
00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:02,830
And it's like I find tips like
that really unhelpful.

1141
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,090
How?
How do we not take much?

1142
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,710
So the tip you're saying is be
organised in the 1st place and

1143
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,910
know what's gonna happen.
Avoid taking planning home by

1144
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,990
knowing that it's OK to plan in
these practical lessons.

1145
00:45:14,050 --> 00:45:16,450
I think it's a great tip and.
Change them as part of you need

1146
00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:17,230
to.
Seriously.

1147
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:19,630
So be adaptable again.
Yeah, you could have turned up

1148
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,990
and said tip 4.
Be adaptable.

1149
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,870
OK?
In practise, what does that

1150
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,110
mean?
It means change your lesson.

1151
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,770
Don't have to skimp on quality,
Don't have to skimp on learning.

1152
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:33,210
But what you can do is skimp on
how much you're writing in there

1153
00:45:33,370 --> 00:45:34,960
and it links back to .2.
Really.

1154
00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:36,000
Drop.
Drop the pride.

1155
00:45:36,010 --> 00:45:40,500
Seriously, don't worry about it.
If if if the odd lesson is now

1156
00:45:40,510 --> 00:45:43,860
not marked properly because you
changed it so that you actually

1157
00:45:43,870 --> 00:45:45,890
got to go home and spend time
with your family or do whatever

1158
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:48,600
you do, it's fine.
I promise you it won't make an

1159
00:45:48,610 --> 00:45:49,880
impact.
Drop the pride.

1160
00:45:49,890 --> 00:45:51,440
It's fine.
But if your school's got a

1161
00:45:51,450 --> 00:45:53,700
terrible policy and it's like,
no, every lesson must be marked

1162
00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:56,700
horrendously, then there's
there's there's a wider issue.

1163
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:58,820
There, and I think that's what
you said beforehand.

1164
00:45:58,870 --> 00:46:00,870
If you're listening to these
tips and going couldn't do that

1165
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,080
in my school, yeah, there
there's your answer.

1166
00:46:04,090 --> 00:46:05,590
Yeah, maybe the school is the
problem.

1167
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,180
Right, my final tip.
Tip 5 something again that I

1168
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:13,180
have done a lot more in the last
year or two and I found it has

1169
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:17,180
had a big impact is to use PPA
properly.

1170
00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:22,040
OK, use your PPA time properly.
We started off this podcast and

1171
00:46:22,050 --> 00:46:24,060
we did jokes about how PPA is
not enough time.

1172
00:46:24,130 --> 00:46:27,680
I still think that PA is not
enough time to get all of the

1173
00:46:27,690 --> 00:46:31,530
extra stuff done.
However, we do have a semblance

1174
00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:33,580
of control.
So this whole theme of the all

1175
00:46:33,590 --> 00:46:36,550
these tips that I've kind of
realised over the years is you

1176
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,590
can do a lot of moaning about
external factors, you can do a

1177
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,930
lot of complaining about.
Oh, I've got so much to do

1178
00:46:41,940 --> 00:46:45,880
because of XYZ.
What can I take control of?

1179
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:49,620
And my PPA was one of them.
And what I mean by using PA

1180
00:46:49,630 --> 00:46:51,190
properly.
And this, this expands to

1181
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,950
everything.
Yeah, this expands to all of

1182
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,760
your own time because you look
at PPA.

1183
00:46:54,830 --> 00:46:57,210
I look at PPA as just an
expansion of my time before

1184
00:46:57,220 --> 00:46:59,790
school, my time after school,
anything I've got to do out of

1185
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,970
the classroom.
But Ppa's golden because it's

1186
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:04,440
the time I get.
That's the time I'm given by the

1187
00:47:04,450 --> 00:47:07,960
system.
So I use that time as best I can

1188
00:47:08,010 --> 00:47:12,200
to take away anything else from
my calendar, from my schedule if

1189
00:47:12,210 --> 00:47:14,140
I don't use it properly.
Guess what?

1190
00:47:14,210 --> 00:47:16,690
I'm just going to the weekend.
I'm just gonna have to do it.

1191
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:18,590
P is like double time because
also you're not.

1192
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,550
If you're not teaching a lesson
in that time, you're also not

1193
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,230
having to market.
Exactly so I think in general my

1194
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:27,550
my tip here is to have a
hierarchy of what needs doing.

1195
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,930
I'll be interested to hear
because I think I don't use my

1196
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:30,740
PPA very.
Effective.

1197
00:47:30,750 --> 00:47:33,410
OK, so this.
Yeah, I think you could improve

1198
00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:34,320
this.
I really do.

1199
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,050
But have a hierarchy of what
he's doing and has the biggest

1200
00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:39,270
impact on the children.
Have that yourself.

1201
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,450
OK, so as a teacher, as a
professional, mould what that is

1202
00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:43,770
for you?
So just to be clear, you're

1203
00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:45,430
going to share your time?
I'm gonna share my high, but

1204
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,450
you're not.
I mean, this is what?

1205
00:47:46,460 --> 00:47:49,020
You have no just find your hire
down to you because you know

1206
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:51,030
what it used to be.
Umm, I'll tell you now.

1207
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,530
My my number one top thing.
Hmm.

1208
00:47:53,570 --> 00:47:58,020
Is I?
I will in my PA if something can

1209
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,400
only be done in school.
Mm-hmm.

1210
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,170
So, like it can only be done in
school.

1211
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:04,650
Hmm.
That is a relevant to my

1212
00:48:04,660 --> 00:48:06,950
hierarchy and I'll show you what
I mean.

1213
00:48:06,990 --> 00:48:08,770
Yeah, what do you?
Mean my hierarchy at the top is

1214
00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:10,370
planning.
OK.

1215
00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:13,770
My number one thing that I think
of has the biggest impact on the

1216
00:48:13,780 --> 00:48:14,690
children.
Yeah.

1217
00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:17,710
And is the biggest use of my
time is planning really good

1218
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:19,770
lessons for the children.
That's, that's number one.

1219
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,950
OK.
So you might think, OK, I can

1220
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,440
plan anywhere.
I can plan at home.

1221
00:48:23,450 --> 00:48:24,620
Yeah.
And I have planned at home a lot

1222
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:25,990
of the time.
OK.

1223
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,090
But and that you have people say
OK well in school I, you know I

1224
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:32,670
can only do displays in school.
I can't do displays at the

1225
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,590
weekend.
I can't.

1226
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,030
That's impossible.
So some people will say, well

1227
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,010
that goes above and PA then
because I'm in school.

1228
00:48:38,060 --> 00:48:41,110
So I could do my do my displays
right now my planning I'll just

1229
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,030
get done whenever.
My point here is no don't do

1230
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,170
that.
My number one that I've got my

1231
00:48:46,180 --> 00:48:48,810
hierarchy which is like
impeccable.

1232
00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:51,590
You can't you can't touch that.
Because I've I've decided for me

1233
00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:54,130
the best impact I have on the
kids of my time is quality

1234
00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:56,100
planning.
I did that first on my PA.

1235
00:48:56,110 --> 00:48:57,870
Every time.
Every single time.

1236
00:48:57,950 --> 00:49:00,620
So if I'm getting my planning
done in PA, OK.

1237
00:49:00,670 --> 00:49:04,890
If it takes all of PA and now
ohh, I can't do my displays that

1238
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:07,960
I was going to do displays.
Wait, it's as simple as that.

1239
00:49:08,010 --> 00:49:09,750
Yeah, they don't get done.
They don't.

1240
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,980
They're not as important because
if I did it the other way around

1241
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:14,600
and I spent my whole PPA doing
displays, guess what?

1242
00:49:14,670 --> 00:49:16,550
That planning needs to happen
because I won't have a lesson to

1243
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,200
next week.
It has to happen.

1244
00:49:18,210 --> 00:49:20,880
So it's my hierarchy.
How am I going to avoid burning

1245
00:49:20,890 --> 00:49:22,980
out?
Guess what guys and people

1246
00:49:22,990 --> 00:49:25,360
aren't like this and I don't
care because how I avoid burning

1247
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:26,740
out.
There's some stuff that just

1248
00:49:26,750 --> 00:49:29,840
doesn't get done.
And if if I'm I'm told I need to

1249
00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:33,480
do 6 displays, or if I'm told I
need to do something else, I'm

1250
00:49:33,490 --> 00:49:35,480
like, cool that OK, I will do
it.

1251
00:49:35,550 --> 00:49:38,380
I promise you I will do that.
But it's here in my hierarchy.

1252
00:49:38,550 --> 00:49:41,920
Because if you think that it's
going to prioritise my planning,

1253
00:49:42,350 --> 00:49:45,720
then you're completely wrong.
So again, in my PPI, OK, you've

1254
00:49:45,730 --> 00:49:48,960
set me a meeting for my PPA.
OK, cool, all right, I'll do it

1255
00:49:48,970 --> 00:49:50,560
then.
But then I'm going to do my

1256
00:49:50,570 --> 00:49:54,040
planning and then if there's any
time left over, if I don't

1257
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:57,310
finish my planning, that's
really annoyed me and I'll have

1258
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,200
to do my planning after.
But guess what?

1259
00:49:59,330 --> 00:50:03,020
Anything I do outside of that,
I'm not going to do my display.

1260
00:50:03,090 --> 00:50:05,510
No, no, it gets to half four.
I finished my planning.

1261
00:50:05,570 --> 00:50:08,300
I've done my marking OK cause
markings on my hierarchy cause I

1262
00:50:08,310 --> 00:50:10,480
need to do my marking.
If that doesn't get done, it

1263
00:50:10,490 --> 00:50:11,660
doesn't get done.
Cool.

1264
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,000
It's half four.
So if I leave the building then

1265
00:50:14,010 --> 00:50:16,560
someone might say ohh have you
done those displays?

1266
00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:18,320
I'm.
I'm more than happy now to say

1267
00:50:18,330 --> 00:50:22,710
no.
And then I'll wait and and ohh,

1268
00:50:23,060 --> 00:50:23,850
can you do them?
Yeah.

1269
00:50:23,860 --> 00:50:24,150
Yeah.
Yeah.

1270
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,210
I'll do them when I've got time.
Yeah.

1271
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,750
Well you can do them now.
I know I can.

1272
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,150
But I'm not going to.
Yeah, because that's how burnout

1273
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:30,750
happens.
Yeah.

1274
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,430
You have to take control of
yourself.

1275
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,270
If it's 4:45 and you have jobs
to do, but they are low enough

1276
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,410
on your hierarchy that you can
crack on with your life and do

1277
00:50:38,420 --> 00:50:41,470
your job that's where you're
going to have to take control

1278
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,650
and say it's not happening.
I'm.

1279
00:50:42,660 --> 00:50:44,030
Afraid can you wash your whole
hierarchy?

1280
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,020
Then just my hierarchy.
I didn't go to planning the top,

1281
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:50,570
planning at the top.
So my hierarchy is basically

1282
00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:52,770
planning as that's what needs to
be done the most.

1283
00:50:53,060 --> 00:50:55,230
Then it's going to be written
feedback.

1284
00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:59,250
But I think the reason that's on
my hierarchy is because it needs

1285
00:50:59,260 --> 00:51:01,690
to be done.
Hmm, that's where you need to as

1286
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:03,190
a teacher come up with your own
one.

1287
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,890
Because for a lot of people
written feedback will be at the

1288
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:07,430
bottom of their list.
And I would completely

1289
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,310
understand that.
But there might be working in a

1290
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,010
school where it's not as
important they have a verbal

1291
00:51:12,020 --> 00:51:14,490
feedback policy.
So my look, I can read my

1292
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:17,210
personal one, but it is down to
what I've cultivated myself.

1293
00:51:17,260 --> 00:51:20,080
So if I'm sitting PA, the first
thing I think of is there

1294
00:51:20,090 --> 00:51:23,230
planning I have to do yes or no?
Yes, I do.

1295
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:24,800
My planning is the planning I
have to do.

1296
00:51:24,810 --> 00:51:25,950
No.
OK, cool.

1297
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,790
Is there marking I've got to do?
Yeah.

1298
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:29,190
No.
OK, cool.

1299
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,810
Now I can get into the nitty
gritty stuff.

1300
00:51:32,020 --> 00:51:34,570
Displays are still low here.
My next thing would be

1301
00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:36,730
assessment is they're assessment
outstanding.

1302
00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:38,610
OK, Yes, there's some assessment
outstanding.

1303
00:51:38,620 --> 00:51:40,570
Cool.
I'll do that, get my assessment

1304
00:51:40,580 --> 00:51:42,470
done.
So I've done my planning, my

1305
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,940
marking on my macro assessment.
They're the three things that I

1306
00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:49,270
see as PPA time.
If that's done other thing comes

1307
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,690
in, then maybe then I'll go and
print.

1308
00:51:51,820 --> 00:51:52,500
Print.
Exactly.

1309
00:51:52,510 --> 00:51:54,560
Get my resources ready.
I'll trim stuff.

1310
00:51:54,610 --> 00:51:57,220
Because you know, when I trim
stuff, it's in the morning

1311
00:51:57,230 --> 00:51:59,720
before I get to school.
Yeah, So all of these jobs, the

1312
00:51:59,730 --> 00:52:01,740
hierarchy is what needs to
happen for me to be able to

1313
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:04,660
complete my job.
Yeah, do I need to do displays

1314
00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:05,960
for my job to get done?
No.

1315
00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:07,170
No.
Do they have any impact on

1316
00:52:07,180 --> 00:52:08,160
children ever?
Nope.

1317
00:52:08,170 --> 00:52:11,780
Yeah, and again, that's down to,
I agree with you, that's down to

1318
00:52:11,790 --> 00:52:14,520
individual whim.
But the the cold hard facts are

1319
00:52:14,530 --> 00:52:18,760
and my hierarchy stuff that if
it weren't, if it wasn't done,

1320
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:20,380
would the children still have
lessons?

1321
00:52:20,450 --> 00:52:22,520
Yes.
Would they really be impacted?

1322
00:52:22,940 --> 00:52:25,600
Maybe a tiny bit if the displays
aren't up to date?

1323
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:27,820
Right.
But but yeah, OK, but let's just

1324
00:52:27,830 --> 00:52:29,140
say it's a tiny bit.
Sure.

1325
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:32,610
How much would their learning be
affected if there was no

1326
00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:33,950
planning a huge?
Amount.

1327
00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:35,630
Or if you had to do your
planning at the weekend when you

1328
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,520
were burned out because you used
all your time this.

1329
00:52:37,530 --> 00:52:39,190
Week.
So it's as simple as why has the

1330
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,310
biggest impact on the children,
but is within the realms of what

1331
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,810
the policy is for your school.
Because if there's a policy at

1332
00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:46,490
the school which is causing you
to be burned out, there's

1333
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:49,950
nothing you can do.
However, if there if you can

1334
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,680
afford to have this attitude,
then have this attitude.

1335
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,610
I know that I need to update my
displays, OK, but the only time

1336
00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:58,960
that will happen is if I get
into school early.

1337
00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:01,040
And when I say early, I mean
before half seven.

1338
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,620
Umm.
Or if I stay at school late.

1339
00:53:03,690 --> 00:53:05,360
Yeah, And do you know what?
Lose your time, your.

1340
00:53:05,370 --> 00:53:06,940
Son, exactly.
When I've done all my stuff,

1341
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:08,100
like my planning, don't call
next week.

1342
00:53:08,110 --> 00:53:10,080
Next week we'll run.
That's fine.

1343
00:53:10,090 --> 00:53:11,920
All my resources are printed.
Cool.

1344
00:53:11,930 --> 00:53:14,970
That's done.
I could spend 45 minutes doing a

1345
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:18,580
display now.
Or I could go home and see Rory

1346
00:53:19,010 --> 00:53:20,700
and, you know, cook dinner
properly.

1347
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:22,620
Yeah, because you've already.
Well, let's be let's be clear

1348
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:24,060
here.
Yeah, You're not doing this at

1349
00:53:24,070 --> 00:53:26,600
3:00.
No, you're doing this at.

1350
00:53:26,650 --> 00:53:29,210
I'm no longer paid for my job
because I've done 10 hours

1351
00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:30,200
today.
Yeah, exactly.

1352
00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:32,560
So I don't need to say there's
nothing compelling me to stay

1353
00:53:32,570 --> 00:53:33,920
other than going above and
beyond.

1354
00:53:33,930 --> 00:53:36,600
So the macro thing there was,
you know, have a hierarchy, but

1355
00:53:36,610 --> 00:53:38,640
I wanted to be really specific
cause I want these tips to be.

1356
00:53:38,650 --> 00:53:40,760
That's really cool.
High and hierarchy is the main

1357
00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:42,300
thing, and that can be with
anything.

1358
00:53:42,310 --> 00:53:45,050
But very specifically if you
want to off somewhere, start of

1359
00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:48,050
your PPI, have a list of things
and stick to it.

1360
00:53:48,060 --> 00:53:50,090
What's important?
And if something doesn't get

1361
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:52,850
done, it doesn't get done.
So I'm an SLT member.

1362
00:53:52,860 --> 00:53:55,510
I'll just listen to this.
I listen to the podcast and I

1363
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,660
think that's a really good
actually.

1364
00:53:56,670 --> 00:53:58,950
I wanna, I wanna encourage this
culture in my school.

1365
00:53:59,780 --> 00:54:02,250
So what I'm going to do is
something I read about on the

1366
00:54:02,260 --> 00:54:04,110
forum the other day and I was
like, oh, I'll bring this up

1367
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,130
sometime.
Someone was mentioning how their

1368
00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:11,150
SLT are coming around to monitor
how PA time is being spent to

1369
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,990
help them make it more
effective.

1370
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,110
And I thought it was really
interesting because I could

1371
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,450
imagine 2 scenarios, right?
Yeah, I can imagine one scenario

1372
00:54:18,460 --> 00:54:21,680
where it's a genuinely it's a
nice SLT team thinking they're

1373
00:54:21,690 --> 00:54:24,220
doing something nice to help
their staff just be more

1374
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:26,770
efficient so they can avoid
burnout and which I don't think

1375
00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:28,300
is very likely.
And there's the other side of me

1376
00:54:28,310 --> 00:54:31,400
that was like ohh no, it's just
a classic draconian like Academy

1377
00:54:31,410 --> 00:54:34,750
trust CEO coming down and being
like Nope, we're going to we're

1378
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,040
going to tell people what to do
in in PA.

1379
00:54:37,050 --> 00:54:39,530
So just to be clear PA is
undirected time.

1380
00:54:39,540 --> 00:54:42,640
The school are not allowed, not
allowed in any circumstance to

1381
00:54:42,650 --> 00:54:46,630
direct you as to the tasks that
you do or complete in your PPA.

1382
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,690
It's sacred time.
So what would you say to me?

1383
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:50,950
I'm SLT.
I'm think I'm coming in.

1384
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,610
I'm saying right.
I'm gonna help you guys be more

1385
00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:54,020
efficient.
Do you think that's OK?

1386
00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:57,880
I I think it really depends on
the context because I think if

1387
00:54:57,940 --> 00:55:01,650
RSLT came in and said that I'm
like, cool, this is what we do.

1388
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,040
And I think it's really
important in this situation for

1389
00:55:05,050 --> 00:55:09,630
SLT to offer it to not to not
demand.

1390
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,290
I'm coming to see your people.
Yeah.

1391
00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:13,310
No, no, no.
It no matter how well intended

1392
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,290
it is, if it's demanded to me,
that's wrong.

1393
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,110
Yeah.
If it's if it's offered.

1394
00:55:17,180 --> 00:55:18,710
And then you have that
relationship PST.

1395
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:20,210
Right.
But yeah, God, because do you

1396
00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:21,910
know what I'm going to show you
now?

1397
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,010
I get this two hour block of PPA
and I've got 2 1/2 hours of

1398
00:55:26,020 --> 00:55:28,190
planning, half an hour of
marking and all those displays

1399
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,750
you asked me to do.
So how would you manage this?

1400
00:55:30,860 --> 00:55:32,290
And then and then.
But then it becomes a

1401
00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:34,550
conversation of OK, yeah, mate,
we are asking too much of you.

1402
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:36,270
Do you know what?
If the displays are that

1403
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,420
important to me as SLT, why, why
don't we cut back on the

1404
00:55:40,430 --> 00:55:42,180
planning?
OK, so for this time, you know,

1405
00:55:42,190 --> 00:55:44,180
we can use that history unit
from last year.

1406
00:55:44,270 --> 00:55:46,200
OK, that's fine, because we want
to get this done.

1407
00:55:46,210 --> 00:55:49,460
For that reason, I'd be like,
OK, because you've taken away

1408
00:55:49,470 --> 00:55:52,490
from my burden.
OK, I'm still gonna manage how I

1409
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:55,700
do it, but you've taken away
from my burden now.

1410
00:55:55,770 --> 00:55:57,070
And you know what?
I'll get it done.

1411
00:55:57,110 --> 00:55:59,580
I think there's going to be a
problem where some teachers

1412
00:55:59,710 --> 00:56:01,620
perhaps aren't doing their job
properly.

1413
00:56:01,690 --> 00:56:02,660
OK.
And.

1414
00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:05,080
And and what I mean by that is,
let's not be naive.

1415
00:56:05,090 --> 00:56:07,260
We're very much on the side of
teachers every single time.

1416
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:09,380
And we we come across like we're
against SLT.

1417
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,530
And I I really don't like that
because there are some fantastic

1418
00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:14,690
slot out there.
But also on the flip side, we

1419
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:16,950
will say there are some teachers
who don't get things done that

1420
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,130
need to get done.
And there are some teachers who

1421
00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:20,750
will completely waste their PA
time.

1422
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,810
We made a meme about it.
You know, you have your chats

1423
00:56:22,820 --> 00:56:24,110
and stuff, but it's true.
Yeah.

1424
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,530
And if you are, you know however
you wanna do it, that's fine.

1425
00:56:27,740 --> 00:56:31,070
But if you are wasting your PPA
and then complaining about being

1426
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,950
burnt out, fix it first.
If you're still then complaining

1427
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,230
about being burned out, then
there's an issue with the

1428
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:39,810
system.
But I think when when there's

1429
00:56:39,820 --> 00:56:42,360
stuff you're in control of that
you haven't first tried to

1430
00:56:42,370 --> 00:56:45,640
change or help yourself with,
yeah, it does lessen your

1431
00:56:45,650 --> 00:56:47,520
credibility when you complain
about stuff.

1432
00:56:47,590 --> 00:56:51,870
So if you're using your PPA to
the best of your intent, you

1433
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,690
can't then complain that you got
an hour of work after school.

1434
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,470
It's like, OK, well you did have
an hour and you just chatted

1435
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,730
about something for an hour.
You know, I'm not saying that

1436
00:57:00,740 --> 00:57:03,740
you aren't burnt out.
I'm just saying as a teacher, if

1437
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:06,620
you want help with being burnt
out, fix everything you can

1438
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:08,490
yourself first make your own
bed.

1439
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:10,750
In that kind of terms of yeah,
that's the kind of thing.

1440
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,830
You're right, you're right.
But that's what's going to help

1441
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,350
people make the most of your
time.

1442
00:57:15,460 --> 00:57:18,030
Then you can go XYZ.
Look, I've spent two hours

1443
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,330
planning my PA.
I've still got a mark after

1444
00:57:20,340 --> 00:57:22,610
school and those things you want
me to get done, they've just

1445
00:57:22,620 --> 00:57:23,990
gone down the list.
I'm sorry, I've had that.

1446
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,870
Conversation.
Or more likely, I spent my whole

1447
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,720
PA planning and I've only done
about 20% of.

1448
00:57:27,730 --> 00:57:28,550
My planning.
Yeah, exactly.

1449
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,370
What do you want me to do guys?
Because that's my whole

1450
00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:31,680
dedicated time for this week for
it.

1451
00:57:31,690 --> 00:57:33,660
I've had that conversation
before. 5 hours of planning

1452
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:34,960
left.
You know, I need to do these two

1453
00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:38,840
reports, these 3 reports, and
it's and and and I said I will

1454
00:57:38,850 --> 00:57:39,630
do it.
I promise.

1455
00:57:39,830 --> 00:57:41,660
It's part of my job.
It's my profession.

1456
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:43,080
Of course I'll do this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1457
00:57:43,090 --> 00:57:44,580
When I can.
Well, here's reality.

1458
00:57:44,590 --> 00:57:47,500
Right now, right now, this week,
I've got about 8 hours of

1459
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:50,440
planning to do for next week.
I've got to get it done.

1460
00:57:50,450 --> 00:57:52,060
It has to be done and I've just
got to do it.

1461
00:57:52,070 --> 00:57:54,070
And it's like that's four weeks
of PPA.

1462
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,330
Yeah, I never would have that
done in school anyway.

1463
00:57:56,380 --> 00:57:57,550
Yeah.
So yeah, it's, you know, there

1464
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,580
are things I just broken.
Well, at least on nicely to my

1465
00:57:59,590 --> 00:58:01,030
last point.
And this is not a big point

1466
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,060
really to talk about, but we can
mention it.

1467
00:58:03,070 --> 00:58:05,880
So good ones like a bonus. 6th
Yeah, it kind of goes on from

1468
00:58:05,890 --> 00:58:10,550
what you're saying, and that is
speak up, talk to people, but

1469
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,010
talk to the right people.
That's the problem that I see a

1470
00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:15,310
lot of the time and the problem
I've made and I still make all

1471
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,990
the time Now.
Everyone loves a good moan.

1472
00:58:17,060 --> 00:58:20,590
You're really good at this.
Well as in as in doing this

1473
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,510
point I do both.
No you're really good at it and

1474
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,860
and and you know you can have a
read for your own back sometimes

1475
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:27,710
because you can get known as the
person who you complaining.

1476
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,710
Again, you're moaning, but do
you know what You What do you

1477
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,250
do?
Then what?

1478
00:58:31,260 --> 00:58:33,380
What do you mean?
I tell you why I've got better

1479
00:58:33,390 --> 00:58:36,240
at it, at least so you might
speak.

1480
00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:39,050
So if you're burning out and
like Dylan said, you you kind of

1481
00:58:39,060 --> 00:58:41,610
put in place the things you're
doing everything you can do to

1482
00:58:41,620 --> 00:58:43,330
not burn out.
You're not, You're not just sat

1483
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,530
there waiting, PA, or sitting
after school talking to your

1484
00:58:46,540 --> 00:58:48,560
partner teacher for two hours
and then saying, oh, I've got so

1485
00:58:48,570 --> 00:58:50,370
much markings to do and you
could have done it two hours.

1486
00:58:50,380 --> 00:58:53,500
You know, if you're already
doing your job effectively and

1487
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:55,810
you're burning out, speak to the
right people.

1488
00:58:55,820 --> 00:58:58,710
Actually go to your head
teacher, not don't just go to

1489
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,910
your TA who you know or just lap
up everything you say and like,

1490
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,860
fuel you a bit more.
Or that other teacher in the

1491
00:59:03,870 --> 00:59:06,750
school that's pissed off about
something that you can go to and

1492
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,520
you know they're going to be
with you and then you can both

1493
00:59:08,530 --> 00:59:10,040
be like, yeah, we hate this
school.

1494
00:59:10,430 --> 00:59:13,420
That is good to do sometimes
because you do need to vent, but

1495
00:59:13,470 --> 00:59:18,720
also do actually raise the point
in a formal professional way to

1496
00:59:18,730 --> 00:59:22,000
the people who could change it.
And then one of two things will

1497
00:59:22,010 --> 00:59:24,440
happen.
They'll change it or they won't

1498
00:59:24,450 --> 00:59:27,140
and then you're just then you're
justified in you're moaning and

1499
00:59:27,150 --> 00:59:29,040
and and actually then there's a
real problem there.

1500
00:59:29,050 --> 00:59:31,960
And then that can become a wider
school issue that you tackle as

1501
00:59:31,970 --> 00:59:33,390
a staff team.
I don't know how it will go from

1502
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,430
there.
That's up to you and your

1503
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,670
school.
But if you don't at least try to

1504
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,900
tell the right people, then can
you expect anything to change?

1505
00:59:40,940 --> 00:59:42,550
And it's happened to me lots of
times in my career.

1506
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,610
Earlier on in my career, I get
very riled up about stuff and

1507
00:59:46,660 --> 00:59:49,230
I'd let it get too.
I'd let it get to me too much.

1508
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,560
And then what I'd end up doing
is I'd send an e-mail to myself

1509
00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:55,450
or the head teacher and it was a
pissy e-mail and it would come

1510
00:59:55,460 --> 00:59:58,170
across as a pissy, rude e-mail.
Then you're on the back foot.

1511
00:59:58,180 --> 01:00:00,490
Straight and then yeah, you know
and that wasn't that wasn't good

1512
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:04,350
and and over the years I've
learned to one stop emailing and

1513
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,710
just go and talk to people as
much as possible and then.

1514
01:00:06,790 --> 01:00:09,780
Starts up as an e-mail just to
say just thank you for talking

1515
01:00:09,790 --> 01:00:11,050
to me.
Here are the points I raised.

1516
01:00:11,060 --> 01:00:14,610
Yeah and and two just if I do
write an e-mail, actually just

1517
01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:16,480
be professional about it.
You might be pissed off, but do

1518
01:00:16,490 --> 01:00:17,720
you know what?
They could.

1519
01:00:17,730 --> 01:00:21,630
The SLT might also just not know
because most of the time people

1520
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,740
moan behind their backs and
don't actually tell them.

1521
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:26,250
And the amount of times I've
said something to SLT and

1522
01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:28,440
they've been like, oh thank you
for telling me, I didn't realise

1523
01:00:28,450 --> 01:00:30,150
that that everyone was thinking
this across the school.

1524
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,730
I didn't even know this was a
problem.

1525
01:00:31,780 --> 01:00:34,210
Thanks.
And then and then it gets fixed

1526
01:00:34,220 --> 01:00:35,190
usually.
Sometimes.

1527
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,160
Yeah, but what I mean is like,
at least then it's a

1528
01:00:37,170 --> 01:00:38,200
conversation.
Exactly.

1529
01:00:38,210 --> 01:00:39,280
At least then it's out in the.
Open.

1530
01:00:39,290 --> 01:00:40,640
So I don't know.
That's my last point.

1531
01:00:40,650 --> 01:00:43,000
Speak up, tell the correct
people and actually expect help

1532
01:00:43,010 --> 01:00:44,220
as well.
You know, don't expect nothing.

1533
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:46,940
If they don't not doing anything
then you can take it further.

1534
01:00:46,990 --> 01:00:49,230
Now these tips aren't
automatically going to solve by

1535
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,460
now because like we said, there
are external factors are

1536
01:00:51,470 --> 01:00:53,990
contributing massively.
Teacher burnout, I think these

1537
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,220
are really sensible first steps
that we've taken have helped us

1538
01:00:58,670 --> 01:01:00,240
that hopefully you guys can take
as well.

1539
01:01:00,250 --> 01:01:01,670
You might do the more you might
do none of them.

1540
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,240
Try them out.
Can I just say one thing I did

1541
01:01:03,290 --> 01:01:05,060
that's not related to these
steps, but it might be.

1542
01:01:05,070 --> 01:01:07,980
It might be good to hear.
One time I really really did

1543
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:09,710
burn.
Now I was working in A1 form

1544
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,490
entry school year 6 lead or year
6 lead the the year 6 teacher

1545
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:14,810
and I was trying to do some
curriculum stuff.

1546
01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:16,490
As well, but.
It's a brand new, like a brand

1547
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:18,540
new was nothing there.
It was the first ever year six.

1548
01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:20,410
There was no planning to go off.
It was all from scratch.

1549
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,510
I absolutely burnt out, said you
know what I did?

1550
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,550
I quit and I went to another
school and you know what?

1551
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,840
That's OK.
Sometimes you can, you can just

1552
01:01:26,850 --> 01:01:28,550
cut your losses.
Someone else might have come in

1553
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,880
and done that and maybe maybe
they're burnout thresholds

1554
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:32,430
higher and they they relished in
it.

1555
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,270
They did like going above and
beyond like Dylan was talking

1556
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,770
about earlier.
But for me at that time, in that

1557
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:39,380
context of my life at that
moment, I couldn't do it.

1558
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:42,000
I couldn't do it.
I burned out and rather than

1559
01:01:42,010 --> 01:01:43,880
just sticking it through and.
You became a feeling.

1560
01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:45,290
Even more stressed, I would go
what?

1561
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:47,640
You became a failure.
A failure I was in a fair way.

1562
01:01:47,650 --> 01:01:49,340
I was like, we talk about we
golf involved.

1563
01:01:49,390 --> 01:01:51,000
No, no.
Yeah, but it's, you know, and

1564
01:01:51,010 --> 01:01:53,340
you might be sat there thinking
about my school will block all

1565
01:01:53,350 --> 01:01:55,180
of these things, OK, maybe the
schools, the problem.

1566
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:58,570
Maybe we should leave.
Yeah, nice one.

1567
01:01:58,580 --> 01:02:00,540
Well, they're our top tips guys.
Hopefully they help you.

1568
01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:02,840
We're gonna have a quick Jingle
and we've got that game and the

1569
01:02:02,850 --> 01:02:09,280
F Word story.
Right, Dylan, what are you

1570
01:02:09,290 --> 01:02:11,040
talking about with?
The welcome back we did.

1571
01:02:11,050 --> 01:02:12,400
We did the Jingle and he turned
to me.

1572
01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:14,610
So seriously that puppy dog eyes
like what's the F word, you

1573
01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:15,680
know.
This is his memory.

1574
01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:16,730
Guys.
By the way, I don't know.

1575
01:02:16,770 --> 01:02:18,620
Do you remember we talked about
this whole.

1576
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:20,440
OK, honestly have no idea right
at the start.

1577
01:02:20,450 --> 01:02:22,900
Guys, if you do have a memory
longer than a goldfish, I'm like

1578
01:02:22,910 --> 01:02:24,360
Hayden.
You might remember at the start

1579
01:02:24,370 --> 01:02:26,640
we talked about doing cuts
because I kept saying F1 about

1580
01:02:26,650 --> 01:02:28,350
that.
OK And I said, do you wanna hear

1581
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,430
the F word story to you?
And you?

1582
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,460
Yes.
And you said no.

1583
01:02:32,510 --> 01:02:36,230
And I laughed and then I'll tell
you later it's a very brief

1584
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,850
effort story when you train as a
teacher, if you decided to go

1585
01:02:39,860 --> 01:02:42,410
into that Ave of going to
university for a year to do PGCE

1586
01:02:42,420 --> 01:02:45,650
like I did, you have to do some
days in school first just to

1587
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:47,370
know that it's what you want to
do.

1588
01:02:47,380 --> 01:02:49,810
It's just a weed out people who
are basically just saying ohh

1589
01:02:49,820 --> 01:02:51,690
yeah I'll do that.
You've got to go and do 10 days

1590
01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:53,890
in a school.
So I did 5 days at my old school

1591
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,990
and five days at a different
local school that I'd never been

1592
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,450
into before in the different
local school hadn't been in

1593
01:02:58,460 --> 01:02:59,900
before.
You got to remember I'm just

1594
01:02:59,910 --> 01:03:05,400
some 20 year old fanic kid and I
I must admit, I maybe it's cause

1595
01:03:05,410 --> 01:03:08,420
I've got Northerners.
Northerners family swearing is

1596
01:03:08,430 --> 01:03:10,080
just a part of our lingo.
OK?

1597
01:03:10,090 --> 01:03:12,900
It's just the way we talk,
Hayden and I, when we're not in

1598
01:03:12,910 --> 01:03:14,040
school, when we're not doing
well.

1599
01:03:14,050 --> 01:03:15,770
Even within the podcast,
sometimes we try not.

1600
01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:18,770
Me, I swear, like nothing else.
And I'm trying not to now around

1601
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:22,190
Rory, obviously.
However, we went into school.

1602
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,890
I went into school and, you
know, I was just this extra

1603
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:27,270
body, you know, the type, just
straight out of school.

1604
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,070
No experience with kids
whatsoever.

1605
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,050
A burden of anything in the
classroom, a complete burden.

1606
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,750
So there was this afternoon, and
I got sent out to play some

1607
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,000
games with some kids.
Looking back now, they're just

1608
01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:38,040
probably trying to get rid of
me.

1609
01:03:38,050 --> 01:03:39,870
And they're like these kids, Get
him out of the classroom.

1610
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,940
One Dylan can go with them.
We're playing snakes and

1611
01:03:41,950 --> 01:03:43,430
ladders.
OK, Right.

1612
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,950
So I'm going to ask you to beat
this.

1613
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:47,170
All right.
OK.

1614
01:03:47,350 --> 01:03:48,840
Yeah.
We're playing snakes and

1615
01:03:48,850 --> 01:03:50,210
ladders.
You didn't swear at them?

1616
01:03:50,510 --> 01:03:52,200
And we were playing Snakes and
Ladders, right?

1617
01:03:52,210 --> 01:03:53,360
And I was.
I was losing.

1618
01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:55,580
Then I got ahead of the kid, you
know, Snakes and Ladders.

1619
01:03:55,590 --> 01:03:57,860
It's up and down.
And then a snake, damn it.

1620
01:03:57,870 --> 01:03:59,960
And then there was a ladder.
Bloody hell.

1621
01:03:59,970 --> 01:04:01,950
And I was on the last row about
to beat him.

1622
01:04:01,990 --> 01:04:03,440
And I rolled.
I rolled.

1623
01:04:03,450 --> 01:04:06,610
I rolled A4, right.
I rolled A4 or whatever it was.

1624
01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:09,560
Yeah.
I went across 9697.

1625
01:04:09,570 --> 01:04:16,420
Landed on the snake and the kid
went, what did you just say?

1626
01:04:16,430 --> 01:04:19,280
And I was like, ohh dear, no you
didn't.

1627
01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:21,360
I was like, yeah, yeah, I said
ohh dear, no, you dear, you

1628
01:04:21,370 --> 01:04:23,080
swore.
No, shut up, kid.

1629
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:28,220
Yeah, keeping my career was over
already 'cause I was annoyed.

1630
01:04:28,310 --> 01:04:30,410
So a 7 year old was about to
beat me.

1631
01:04:30,450 --> 01:04:31,380
Space.
So funny.

1632
01:04:31,390 --> 01:04:32,700
I love that.
It happens.

1633
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:34,090
It happens.
And I'd like to think the

1634
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:36,160
winner, the only two people that
have accidentally sworn about

1635
01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:38,520
children in nine years.
But it has happened, you know,

1636
01:04:38,530 --> 01:04:40,200
been a couple of times in my
career where I've just

1637
01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:42,940
accidentally, yeah, of course,
maybe just been too comfortable

1638
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:44,700
in what?
Saying ohh MG.

1639
01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:47,720
It's usually when with kids that
are just really nice and really

1640
01:04:47,730 --> 01:04:49,910
like just chilled out kids that
you can be normal around.

1641
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,370
Yeah.
And I've just accidentally said

1642
01:04:51,380 --> 01:04:53,850
something Ohh you tell the head
teacher.

1643
01:04:53,860 --> 01:04:55,110
Ohh no.
I've done this and they usually

1644
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,630
like it's fine.
Yeah, of course.

1645
01:04:57,070 --> 01:04:59,000
That's the only thing.
Obviously I told the teacher at

1646
01:04:59,010 --> 01:05:00,880
the end and she was like, don't
worry about it and it was all

1647
01:05:00,890 --> 01:05:02,850
sorted, just be open.
We'll just, we'll just say,

1648
01:05:02,860 --> 01:05:04,060
yeah, it was an accident.
It happens.

1649
01:05:04,110 --> 01:05:05,800
Yeah, of course.
As if they've never heard these

1650
01:05:05,810 --> 01:05:08,060
words before.
Yeah, that's funny.

1651
01:05:08,070 --> 01:05:11,430
But yeah, that's my remember
thinking I'm done with this

1652
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,880
career is finished.
So what's the F word story

1653
01:05:15,820 --> 01:05:16,260
anyway?
We're.

1654
01:05:16,270 --> 01:05:18,730
Gonna finish right guys, Here
are top tips for.

1655
01:05:19,620 --> 01:05:21,570
You haven't done your tips yet.
No, no, no, no.

1656
01:05:21,580 --> 01:05:23,110
Forgotten them.
You forgotten the in between

1657
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,230
bits.
Anyway, you got game Aiden.

1658
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,850
Let's finish off another game in
ages.

1659
01:05:26,860 --> 01:05:30,610
It's a really quick it's a game.
It's more like a theoretical

1660
01:05:30,620 --> 01:05:31,570
Hayden.
So it's obviously not.

1661
01:05:31,580 --> 01:05:33,890
It's not.
But anyway, it's just I saw this

1662
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:36,480
online and I thought this would
be funny to say, not seeing this

1663
01:05:36,490 --> 01:05:39,170
completely.
OK, so you can all play along.

1664
01:05:39,660 --> 01:05:43,320
Thank you.
You can now tell them, do you

1665
01:05:43,330 --> 01:05:44,650
think about it as well?
They can't just listen.

1666
01:05:44,660 --> 01:05:48,590
They can play.
You have developed a new power.

1667
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,050
I have the only person in the
world who's got this power.

1668
01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:55,270
It's called Mole man, man.
Got 3 moulds baby.

1669
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:01,650
It's got moles for nipples.
So you can now see a number.

1670
01:06:01,780 --> 01:06:04,190
Of moles.
Ohh you can.

1671
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,170
This could be your.
Answer.

1672
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,820
You can now see a number.
Ohh, I know you're gonna say.

1673
01:06:07,830 --> 01:06:09,680
Go on.
You can now see a number above

1674
01:06:09,690 --> 01:06:12,010
everybody's head.
OK, only you can see this number

1675
01:06:12,020 --> 01:06:15,240
and only you have this power.
What would you?

1676
01:06:15,250 --> 01:06:16,780
Like how many moles do they
have?

1677
01:06:18,230 --> 01:06:20,640
This is what would you like the
number to display?

1678
01:06:20,650 --> 01:06:21,560
Well, that's really.
Cool.

1679
01:06:21,610 --> 01:06:23,490
OK, so you get to choose what is
one thing.

1680
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:26,080
You can't change this, Yeah?
So OK, and it's always true.

1681
01:06:26,090 --> 01:06:28,030
It's always true.
So you guys can all, you can all

1682
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,240
see a number above someone's
head.

1683
01:06:29,250 --> 01:06:31,660
Ohh, that's interesting.
What do you what would you pick

1684
01:06:31,730 --> 01:06:33,610
that number to display?
Or anything ever.

1685
01:06:33,620 --> 01:06:35,980
It could be about them, it could
be the number, could be

1686
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:38,040
anything.
Oh my There'll be an individual

1687
01:06:38,050 --> 01:06:39,470
number per person above their
head.

1688
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,080
Umm.
What do you want it?

1689
01:06:41,090 --> 01:06:46,350
To be the number of money I ohh,
that's really good.

1690
01:06:46,540 --> 01:06:48,410
Can I see my own one?
Yeah.

1691
01:06:48,420 --> 01:06:50,740
Yeah, ohh, because I was.
Gonna Yeah, yeah, you can see

1692
01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:51,770
your own.
Have a look in the mirror.

1693
01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:53,120
I've got my number.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1694
01:06:53,130 --> 01:06:54,650
I don't know.
There's that classic one of just

1695
01:06:54,740 --> 01:06:57,700
how many minutes they have left.
Yeah, when you're gonna die.

1696
01:06:57,710 --> 01:06:59,140
Yeah, kind of.
Because that's such a weird

1697
01:06:59,150 --> 01:07:00,510
thing.
I think that's a big part of our

1698
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,480
culture where it's like, well,
weird that we just accept we

1699
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:06,150
have no idea.
It could be any time.

1700
01:07:06,260 --> 01:07:08,790
And I just don't think about it,
but I think I'd be just that

1701
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,100
can't be because.
I become obsessed.

1702
01:07:11,020 --> 01:07:13,300
There's so many things you could
you could go down the emotional

1703
01:07:13,310 --> 01:07:14,430
route.
Could you have like how many

1704
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,400
bugs they're gonna?
Give ohh Wow.

1705
01:07:16,410 --> 01:07:17,900
Was that being abused?
No, no.

1706
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:19,540
But you you could do anything
like that.

1707
01:07:19,550 --> 01:07:21,860
Yeah, but you could also be like
the the classic thing of like, I

1708
01:07:21,870 --> 01:07:23,760
don't know how much money
they're gonna make in their

1709
01:07:23,770 --> 01:07:24,810
life.
Yeah, yeah.

1710
01:07:24,850 --> 01:07:26,740
How many, how many times they
farted today?

1711
01:07:26,750 --> 01:07:28,300
Here's one.
He's like anything.

1712
01:07:28,310 --> 01:07:32,650
How many times more will they
say their own name before they

1713
01:07:32,660 --> 01:07:33,720
die?
Right.

1714
01:07:33,730 --> 01:07:35,520
Because if minds anything other
than 0.

1715
01:07:35,530 --> 01:07:40,710
I'm never going to die.
I won't say my name, but one

1716
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,380
left.
OK, my name is.

1717
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,370
Yeah, but knowing that, then it
will just say 0.

1718
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,560
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Cause eventually when I want to

1719
01:07:47,570 --> 01:07:52,940
die, I'm like, OK didn't.
What were his last words?

1720
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:55,100
We must write them down with his
own name.

1721
01:07:55,150 --> 01:07:57,940
Selfish idiot.
How many times they said I've

1722
01:07:57,950 --> 01:08:00,050
had a great life.
Thanks all for the memories

1723
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,520
everyone's got one of.
Yours is just Dylan.

1724
01:08:04,690 --> 01:08:06,820
Yeah, you know what you want to
know about people.

1725
01:08:06,830 --> 01:08:08,710
I.
Guess how many hours they think

1726
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:09,940
would be waiting to see in a
day?

1727
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:11,920
How many times they streamed to
teach?

1728
01:08:11,930 --> 01:08:13,900
Stick with podcast.
Yeah, the number.

1729
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:15,900
The rating they gave for the
Tech State Repeat podcast?

1730
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:17,689
We can see you get the one.
Finally.

1731
01:08:17,750 --> 01:08:22,270
It was you, Hayden's mum.
Yeah.

1732
01:08:22,340 --> 01:08:25,319
So I don't know what I'd pick.
Yeah, so many.

1733
01:08:25,330 --> 01:08:29,370
Things tell you what, that was a
great game, all right.

1734
01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:33,640
The number is your satisfaction,
level 1 to 10 of my gains.

1735
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,810
Do you know what a game?
Is that's.

1736
01:08:35,819 --> 01:08:38,310
That's just a question.
Shut up.

1737
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,630
I don't know.
That's the answer, I reckon.

1738
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,290
Can we make it a poll or a
question with the Spotify Yeah,

1739
01:08:43,300 --> 01:08:45,399
we can make a poll.
Yeah, Hayden, we can get a poll.

1740
01:08:45,410 --> 01:08:48,550
Where?
We where we predetermined the 2

1741
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,250
answers everyone.
Will say, yeah.

1742
01:08:51,069 --> 01:08:54,990
Yeah we do, Francis.
We'll get about two replies and

1743
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,500
then we'll we'll just ignore it.
Ohh my gosh.

1744
01:08:57,550 --> 01:09:00,740
I actually put something ohh
what is Instagram earlier?

1745
01:09:00,930 --> 01:09:03,800
And I said we're about to go
live with the podcast we'll

1746
01:09:03,810 --> 01:09:05,540
finish off with.
This, excuse me, this is gonna

1747
01:09:05,550 --> 01:09:06,520
go.
This is the Backfire.

1748
01:09:06,529 --> 01:09:08,040
So horribly, Of course.
Of course it is.

1749
01:09:08,050 --> 01:09:10,560
Because I thought to myself, you
know what I'll just see?

1750
01:09:10,649 --> 01:09:13,830
Because we've got about 2 1/2
thousand followers now on our

1751
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,399
Instagram and we do get good
Instagram.

1752
01:09:16,490 --> 01:09:20,060
It's repeat podcast.
So we get good, like, we get

1753
01:09:20,069 --> 01:09:23,870
good interaction on our podcast,
We get good votes, like 100.

1754
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,069
Yeah, podcasts on our Instagram.
So I just put a story out there

1755
01:09:27,140 --> 01:09:30,399
right before we started saying
first person to reply here gets

1756
01:09:30,410 --> 01:09:31,740
a shout out.
Didn't you do this literally

1757
01:09:31,750 --> 01:09:33,510
like 20 seconds before we
started recording?

1758
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,390
Yeah yeah.
So first person to reply here

1759
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:38,029
gets a shout.
You've got 3 minutes, we have 3

1760
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,550
reply.
Who's the first one?

1761
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,930
So I will give all three because
it's only three reply.

1762
01:09:41,939 --> 01:09:46,060
OK, so I'll give all three.
First one, one of our previous

1763
01:09:46,069 --> 01:09:49,200
guests, the teachers PT.
Yeah, go on then.

1764
01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:51,560
There you go Martin.
If you wanna hear about Martin,

1765
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,420
he smashed it on Instagram at
the minute.

1766
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:55,620
Lots of really funny memes going
follow him.

1767
01:09:55,630 --> 01:09:58,680
He is at the teachers PT.
Especially if you're a teacher.

1768
01:09:58,690 --> 01:10:00,740
Go and find out how to stay
healthy and fit and have a laugh

1769
01:10:00,750 --> 01:10:03,540
as well.
Next one is El Clark, 82, who

1770
01:10:03,550 --> 01:10:05,020
Simply put an emoji with our
hand up.

1771
01:10:05,090 --> 01:10:06,840
So L Clark 82.
There you go.

1772
01:10:06,990 --> 01:10:08,420
Hey, I don't know your full
name.

1773
01:10:08,430 --> 01:10:09,900
Is it just Li?
Don't know.

1774
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:12,430
Miss Clarke 82.
Whoever you are, there's your

1775
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:13,610
shout out.
Thanks for listening.

1776
01:10:13,620 --> 01:10:18,660
And the last one is my mum and
she's put OK, right.

1777
01:10:18,670 --> 01:10:21,480
If you can guess the one word,
my mum's purse, right.

1778
01:10:21,490 --> 01:10:23,260
This is a game.
How would if you can guess the

1779
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:26,540
one word my mum's put, you can
lead the next week's.

1780
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:28,100
Podcast how how could I
possibly?

1781
01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:30,120
Shut up and guess.
What I don't know.

1782
01:10:30,130 --> 01:10:34,520
One word underfed.
No, she's put gangster,

1783
01:10:34,670 --> 01:10:38,060
gangster, gangster.
What did they what did Jonah at

1784
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:40,100
3:00?
17 What did my mum put?

1785
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:42,290
Your mum?
She put.

1786
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Why is my name spelt weird?
That's the name of my mom is a

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01:10:47,970 --> 01:10:51,140
good story actually started.
I've actually there you go, he

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01:10:51,150 --> 01:10:53,190
said his memory, cause I've told
the story on this podcast.

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01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,830
Before told it, see, go back and
check it out.

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01:10:56,020 --> 01:10:57,350
Right guys, we're finished
there.

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,220
Hayden started this again by
saying it might be a short one

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01:10:59,230 --> 01:11:00,090
today.
New.

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01:11:00,100 --> 01:11:02,650
It's me and you, Hayden.
We're gonna chat, chat, chat

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01:11:02,660 --> 01:11:06,220
waffled about crap.
OK, hope you enjoyed our tips

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01:11:06,230 --> 01:11:08,540
though and we do.
We do live and breathe them and

1796
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:11,000
it has helped with our teacher.
Follow us on Instagram, give our

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01:11:11,010 --> 01:11:13,120
podcast to follow and give it a
rating please.

1798
01:11:13,130 --> 01:11:15,270
And why not share with a friend?
We're one years old.

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Bye.