Jan. 7, 2024

Ep 45: Is The Primary School Timetable Fit For Purpose?

Show Notes
Transcript

How do primary schools timetable an over crammed curriculum? Are some subjects given too much time compared to others? Can a more flexible timetable have more pros than a fixed one, or is the change too disruptive? Over 50% of people we polled on Instagram said they would change their school's timetable, but does anyone have the *perfect* balance? We talk about everything from specialist teaching, unfixed PPA times & what even *is* the purpose of the timetable? Hope you enjoy it! Find us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/teachsleeprepeatpodcast/

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Hey everyone, welcome back to
another episode of Teaching

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Repeat.
My name is Dylan and my name is

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Hayden.
It's Hayden and Hayden here

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again.
And don't don't worry, this

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isn't the episode from last
week.

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I know Aiden late in the same
top again, but it's not the

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episode from last.
Week.

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I don't have many, many
teachers, right, Dylan?

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No, you don't.
Where's the key?

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Yeah.
Where's the key?

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Sorry, I thought I saw an inmate
on the screen, but.

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Fresh out of gaol.
I love, you know, I'm not only

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having an inmate, I'm an inmate
from France.

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As always, listeners not
watching completely pointless

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content for you?
Welcome back to this podcast.

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Ohh, is that it?
That's it.

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I thought I was gonna let you
take the reins.

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This is ladies and gentlemen,
this is what this podcast would

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be if I didn't take the lead.
But ohh, Dylan's always

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interrupting and there's even
This is why.

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OK, so here's here's going to
happen.

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Aiden over?
To you, Aiden.

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Alright Ellen, over to me.
So Dylan, how are you?

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Yeah, bit of a cop out.
I'm good, pal.

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I'm good.
We are one week in to our New

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Year's resolution targets.
We are.

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So anyone who listened last
week, it was all about the new

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year and we set ourselves a
competition because resolutions,

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Honestly, I used to hate them.
Whenever I did them, I would

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always be like that person.
Why would I wait until January

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the 1st to make a change or just
make a change straight away if

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it's necessary?
Well, the reason is because I

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don't make the change.
It's something to make me.

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Do it?
Exactly.

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So we made a competition.
Are you still on your daily

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streak?
Still on my daily streak of

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fasting.
Good.

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So can you, how's that going?
It's going really well,

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genuinely.
If anything, I'm adding in like

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an extra.
Hour.

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What?
The details now then tell us

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actually, what are you doing?
You're eating from when until.

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When?
So basically the loose rules are

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I eat between lunch and dinner,
That's it.

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So I have lunch and have dinner
and in between that time is

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fine.
The technical timing I'm giving

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myself are 12 to 8.
So it's an 8 hour window you're

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supposed to do for this
particular.

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Does that always work?
Though and like a newborn around

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do you ever find you're like I
need to eat now that she's

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fussing about to do this and.
That I found it worked even

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better.
Because dinner, I think we're

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we're quite good at just having
on time.

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Yeah.
Whereas lunch.

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I suppose it's easy when you do
nothing for the baby.

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Ohh yeah.
Was he saying?

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Yeah, no, I did actually wonder
because I thought have it cause

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you used to have a really strict
times on your fasting, so I

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thought that's not gonna happen
is.

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It.
Yeah, well, basically, right.

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The only thing that often
becomes late because of the baby

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is lunch.
OK, so it just delays my start

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time, which actually makes the
fasting even longer.

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So quite often eating lunch at
1:00, then still have dinner at

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like 6, half 6-7.
Change that.

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And then realistically.
I've just had a long feeling

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Cramps, you, feeling pain, even
hunger.

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Fine, I thought.
Absolutely fine.

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I feel like what you should feel
like because I'm eating our

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food.
Yeah, a day.

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Good point.
I can't remember it was someone

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was telling me before that, you
know, in the same way like we've

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just there's just made-up things
in culture, right?

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And we all just accept that's
it.

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Like the order of the alphabet,
just things.

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Like no one questions.
It's just the thing.

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Yeah, but objectively, would it
really matter if C&E swap?

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Yes, what I mean, right?
And someone said to me one day

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they were like, I think someone
to do fitness.

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Like maybe some of the worst Pi
can't remember.

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But they were like, you don't.
There's no actual reason that we

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have breakfast, lunch and
dinner.

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Yeah, like that.
We did just make up.

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Then we have to have those free
meals at those.

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Particular is not just because
it's like when we wake up we

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wanna eat.
I don't know, maybe.

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But they they were talking about
how, you know, for a long time

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in history, those things didn't
exist.

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You just ate when you're hungry.
You just had food when you and

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it could.
You could go days without food.

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And sometimes they didn't even
have food back in the day when

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they were hunter gatherers.
Exactly.

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So if you had to go another day
because you didn't have any

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food, then you have to go
another day.

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We've just got really used to.
Ohh, I have to.

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I have to eat.
My dinner, there's a whole adage

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Breakfast is the most important
meal of the day.

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I know so many people who don't
eat breakfast.

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I mean, I'm sure there's
something in that.

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I'm sure there's something to do
with your metabolism.

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I don't know.
But I'm not fussed by breakfast

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and and kind of flipped to you
where you're not having

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breakfast.
I am having breakfast now and

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it's like I that's the one me
and I feel I have to force down

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me.
Yeah, I don't like eating in the

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morning, not really.
But by 10:00 I'm hungry and I'm

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like, well, that's what I'm.
So do you feel better?

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I suppose is the whole point of
this is like do you actually

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feel, I know obviously
throughout this you know process

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when we come on and talk about
it, we're gonna talk about like

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the weight loss and stuff
because at the end of the day,

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whatever we're doing, it's gonna
cause a calorie deficit and

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we're hoping to lose weight.
But genuinely, the number one

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goal is do you?
Feel better in yourself?

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Not yet.
Really, no, not yet.

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Being honest with you, I feel I
feel the same.

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But I have done this diet before
and I do remember it taking a

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few weeks to kick in and feeling
pretty good after that.

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But at the moment I just feel
exactly the same.

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I think I just need to do it for
a bit longer really.

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I mean, you obviously feel
different then.

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No, I I don't feel massively
different.

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This is a really weird thing
because I've done this.

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So I'm doing the daily challenge
review and my challenge is to

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not eat sugar.
And to clarify, I mean like, you

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know, the most obviously added
sugar, high, hyper, high

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process, super palatable foods
like crisps and yeah, you know,

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Pringles and chocolate and
snacks and things like that.

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All I'm doing is simply eating
breakfast, dinner and lunch and

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not snacking that order.
Yeah, Ohh.

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No, ignore my comment about the
culture.

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We Dylan.
Doesn't.

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Yeah.
What do you mean, culture?

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That breakfast, lunch and dinner
in order and, you know,

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everything's homemade.
Yeah.

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So no takeaways because?
It's in the process.

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Exactly, yeah.
And when I say takeaways again,

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I mean like McDonald's KFC for
example.

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We had a Nando's that time.
I know Nando's sauce will have

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some sugar in it.
I understand that.

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But the point is that I'm not
having those like ultra bad

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things.
Because normally would have a

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Nandos and then you'd smash like
an entire bar of Dairy Milk

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exactly, exactly and have like a
milkshake and terminates.

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Yeah, exactly.
That exactly what I'm doing.

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I'll have three refillable full
fat Cokes, right.

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So I've not had any sugary soft
drinks.

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I've just had water and I've had
I think again because I want it

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to be sustainable.
When we had Nandos, I did have

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some no added sugar lemonade,
right.

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So again, I'm not having all the
time. 95% of my drinks have

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been.
Water 0 Sugar Lemonade not no

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added sugar.
That's.

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Very Ohh yeah, 0 sugar.
Yeah, there's no sugar.

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But.
But the point being that 95% of

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my drinks now look at that.
You know how much refuge change

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that is for me?
Yeah, I've not consumed any

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chocolate.
I'm not consumed any crisps.

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Now the thing I wanted to talk
about quickly was I don't have

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that horrible pang that I've had
every other time I've done this,

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where after three or four days
I've had this horrendous

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headache like like intense in
the front of my head, like, get

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some sugar down you.
Yeah, but the last time you did

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it, you went.
I did think it was a bit

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extreme.
You went actual, like,

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completely no sugar.
Yeah, that's a good point.

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Dylan didn't eat anything with
sugar, and I'm talking like

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bread, like literally anything
with sugar in it.

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Didn't eat just completely,
completely cold Turkey from

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sugar, which was a bit silly,
really.

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Well, suspect it was, but I felt
unbelievably good.

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But then you got the headaches
and all.

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That yeah, I did.
But I got through the headaches.

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That's what I mean.
I was waiting for headaches to

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finish and then you get through
them and then you feel so much

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better, Sure.
So at this point I'm not

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worried, but I'm kind of like,
well, I've not had them

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horrendous headaches.
But honestly, like for dinner

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and lunch and stuff.
Lunch.

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I've had chicken breast salad,
so that's nothing.

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Mornings I've had egg on toast
and for dinners I've just

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constantly had something home
cooked from home.

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I've been cooking a lot.
I've been doing spaghetti

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bolognese.
I've been cooking a Curry.

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Yeah, so all all that stuff is
homemade and it is good, but

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I've not had those pangs.
I'm like, I'm either getting

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away with it and this is
brilliant or something's not

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happened yet.
It's on the horizon.

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But yeah, in general it's good,
it's really good.

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But moving on from that nice
little catch up with you guys

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there, we're going strong.
So we seven days now.

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Yep, I'm going for as long as
possible.

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I want it to be like a.
Lifestyle for you?

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Yeah.
I'll bet you it's not that

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ultimate competition and mines
harder.

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So yeah you have got more
extreme ones fair.

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I need to start adding in a bit
of your diet to mine.

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Yesterday when I sat there in my
yeah, my Meringue tart.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

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Yeah, in my in my window.
Your window.

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I've had 74 Dairy Milk bars, but
it's in my window.

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Anyway, how's your week at
school?

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I've been back.
Yeah, it's it's been all right.

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Yeah.
I mean by all right.

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I mean, yeah, you know, it's
working.

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It works work.
We did a little part.

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We're gonna have a lot more
coming in later on.

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But there was a there was a
thank you so much on our

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Instagram.
By the way you follow us at tech

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support podcast.
Let me say that again at Teach

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Sleep repeat podcast.
Do find us on there because

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we're often putting on polls.
We use that in our podcasts.

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And the first question asked
was, how are you feeling about

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going back to work in 2024?
Really split down the middle.

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Now I know we're massively right
towards teachers, but I did have

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some friends on there, some
other people to follow us who I

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know aren't teachers who also
went back to work in 2024, so

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they're involved in that too.
But it was really interesting to

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split 30% of people mostly
positive, 30% of people mostly

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negative.
OK, 40% of people neutral.

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Ohh right.
Dead split down the middle.

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So really, really even split.
And I just thought it.

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I looked at that and my first
thought was, that's all right,

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yeah.
But if you really think about

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it, going back to work is what
you spend your life doing.

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It's what you spend over half of
your awake time doing.

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Hmm.
The fact that it's 5050 on how

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you feel about it is
unbelievably bad, isn't it?

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Like, it's objectively terrible
that half of people, well, let's

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think 70% of people were neutral
or negative about going back to

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do this thing they do for most
of their lifetime.

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Yay, capitalism.
Baby capitalism, baby.

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And I don't know, it just made,
it just made me think.

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When you think deeper about it,
it's mad our society where we're

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like, oh, that's all right,
that's my other, OK, you know,

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half and half, 90%, that's up.
Yeah, that's up.

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I know.
So it's just I I thought that

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was crazy.
But personally, in the moment,

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the day before I went back, Hmm.
And when I was in school, I felt

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great.
Yeah, I was positive because I

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get to see my kids.
Yeah.

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I love seeing my kids.
I love seeing my work colleagues

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I like.
I just remember something.

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Go on.
What you laughing at me?

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You're my work colleague.
I love seeing my work

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colleagues, love seeing the kids
in my class.

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That was brilliant.
That was brilliant.

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But very slowly, the reality
does hit you at 5:45 when I was

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still at work on Wednesday,
because I finished.

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When I passed everything over,
I'm like, OK that.

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Yeah, there.
Is lots to do.

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Just lost completely.
My initial feeling from day one

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was ohh man this is.
So we've got.

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Children now, Yeah, they're just
makes it that bit more

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exhausting.
I just remembered you talking

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about you've seen your kids and
stuff.

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I went into the staff room hands
and Dylan was in there and he

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had his phone out.
This is so cute really.

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He was just standing there
looking at pictures of Rory

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cause he'd missed him because it
was lunchtime.

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He hadn't seen him for like 3 or
4 hours.

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He was standing there looking at
looking at his own pictures of

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his child.
Yeah, he's taking all his.

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I miss him.
Just was so cute.

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Rory could be in my arms, just
chilling, yeah.

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And I'll look at pictures of
him.

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OK, that's weird, yeah.
Just, I just want to look at him

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all the time.
And any time anyone asked me and

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they're just being polite.
Classic small talk like

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Christmas.
OK, don't ask me that, don't ask

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me that.
Because of me.

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Within 10 seconds, I like his
picture of Rory smiling over my

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shoulder.
The Christmas tree.

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Everyone.
Everyone at work.

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I've just obsessed.
I just.

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I miss.
I miss him when I'm with him.

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Like what do you think I feel
like at work when you're with

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him.
Yeah.

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I miss him when?
When Especially when he's

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asleep.
I know people mean now.

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Yeah, I'd like.
I know it's exhausting and it's

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tiring and stuff but when he
when he goes to sleep.

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Yeah.
Ohh, I missed you.

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I wanna see you.
So I just watched him phone and

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it was good.
Just good.

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It's a good feeling.
Yeah, it's nice.

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It's.
Good.

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I'm thoroughly enjoying having a
child, despite the sleepless

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nights sometimes.
But last night she slept all

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night.
Yeah, for the first time.

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Like a whole night's.
That's unreal and.

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Crazy.
So good.

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You had that about this time,
didn't you?

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Remember.
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, just been like it's
something.

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Wrong.
I know.

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Because we were we were up from
like 2 till four.

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Watching him wait like you're up
by now.

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What's going on, man?
Sleeping.

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Yeah.
Unbelievable.

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But other than that, yeah,
instantly.

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Horribly exhausted is my phrase
that I wrote down for how I felt

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about going back to school.
Made me appreciate being at home

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a bit more and just being with
with my gals and yeah.

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Very, very, very grateful at
this point and that we took that

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plunge to go part time.
Yeah.

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And took what was a risk at the
time.

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And we're not like don't want
anyone to listen thinking we're

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massively monetarily numerated
for that.

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Like it's not like we've we're
unbelievably like.

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We had a scary time, didn't we,
When?

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Yeah, last year we sort of went
part time and then the cost of

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living crisis all kind of kicked
in and our kind of like customer

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bases were yeah, we were like,
oh, we've just gone part time.

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Could you all come back?
And they did over the year like

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we got to do a really good
place.

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But it was it was it was like
scary at first when when when

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suddenly you're this is the
thing that always keeps teachers

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in the job as security.
Yeah.

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Right.
So when you go part time it

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sounds like all roses and people
always take the Mick out of us I

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think, which I quite enjoy.
I'd rather people be doing that

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than being like are you OK now
take the, take the.

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Make of me when I'm walking out
on a Wednesday.

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Ohh, you want Monday.
But like, there were certain

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times I was like, haha, but you
know, I did.

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We did sacrifice hundreds of
pounds to try and hope that this

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other thing works.
Yeah, but and many.

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Years of grafting on.
Top of That's the thing.

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It wasn't.
I don't know how we did that,

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man.
No, we couldn't do now.

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I'm glad we did it.
We.

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Did it?
We did, didn't we?

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About how tutoring helped us go
part-time.

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Go check it out.
We talked about our story of

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going part time and how we built
our.

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Business.
It's one of our biggest, biggest

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episodes of almost 60, yeah.
And all I would say to people is

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don't.
This is interesting because I

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know, I know, I know, I know, I
know.

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We're going to talk to people in
the future who have left

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teaching been successful.
I, you know, I don't want people

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to think it's all roses and
simple.

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It's not OK You don't quit and
then hope it's a three, 4-5

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years of working.
Constantly evenings and

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weekends.
Creating curriculums, making

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stuff, building business to be
able to do that.

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So don't just you see the light
and you think, oh wow, you've

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done it, there's a bit more.
Complicated.

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You see, the Instagram rails are
like 2 steps on how you can

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become financially free this.
Year, Yeah, No.

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Or if it was just two steps and
everyone would.

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Do do some drop shipping on
Amazon.

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No stop.
But anyway other than that I had

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one funny thing and one thing
that I just kind of want your

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opinion.
Really so funny thing one of the

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I've got.
I've got the nicest class this.

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Year.
I know because I thought so

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nice.
And they're my babies.

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They're just lovely, man.
I just love it.

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Anyway, one of them is, boy, I
like in the class he was really

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sweet, like he's got such a nice
personality.

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He came in, it was just post
Christmas and he got this little

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literally just a little plastic
bowl, right?

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And it's got a button on it.
Hmm.

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And if you roll it, it always
lands on on this button and then

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it makes a fart noise.
And he was so proud of it,

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right?
This gives really genuinely so

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chilled and nice, normally very
quiet.

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And then it's just about to
start my input in maths and my

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door opened, he's in another
class and this ball came rolling

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in.
I immediately knew what it was

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and it landed and everyone did
this fart noise and I could just

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see him giggling and laughing
outside the door.

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Like, you just think of the
situations where that would

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annoy you, right?
Other classes or particular

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children.
But no, that's really because it

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was him, because he never does
this thing and he knew the right

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time.
He hadn't started really.

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I was just getting people sat
down and it just really made me

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laugh and it made my day and it
made his day.

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With a different teacher, that
would have been a huge.

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Problem Big Yeah, I think he
knew.

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But but this is my point.
Though I think this is my point.

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Bigging you up a bit sometimes.
Who cares?

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It's sometimes who cares?
Yeah, look at this.

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It's not a blanket.
That's always bad.

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But aren't you awful?
Come on, they're human being.

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Less than one.
Yeah.

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Like, if anything, it just the
most important.

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That's a bit happy, yeah.
Happy, like, cheered up.

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It doesn't come back to school.
Yeah, it was funny.

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But he knows, like, there's no
way.

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One, he would never do it again.
Yeah, the joke's over now.

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And some kids would do it.
They see you laugh at one time.

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They do it might make more
times.

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And it's like, yeah, you
wouldn't do again.

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And there's no way he would have
done it in like, a natural,

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crucial time.
Yeah.

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So it's just.
Yeah, ohh blessing.

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So that's that.
That's good.

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There's another slightly funny
thing, OK, I don't know what to

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do about really.
Alright.

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And this is where you might.
You are about teacher.

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So because I do like to have a
bit of fun with the kids, do ya?

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And maybe sometimes maths blows
up.

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00:16:06,860 --> 00:16:08,990
Mask done any of that this year?
That was nuts.

408
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Like what was wrong with me last
year?

409
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You.
Were almost think I lost.

410
00:16:11,350 --> 00:16:11,950
The plot, Yeah.
I.

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00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,170
Think we both did?
Lost the plot?

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00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:14,450
Great.
Time to start a podcast where

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00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:16,870
both Yeah.
Yeah, if you don't want blow,

414
00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,070
dark matter is go and just
listen to any of the, any of.

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The episodes and just hear.
About the insane things was

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doing last year of Mass.
So obviously I joke about my

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baldness with the kids
sometimes, right They're bored.

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I'm bored.
If you didn't know if you're not

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00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:32,930
watching bald, you might.
I don't sound like it.

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00:16:32,940 --> 00:16:34,470
I know.
Sound like I've got a lot of

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hair.
Can you?

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00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,170
Can you do a voice if someone
who's bored?

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00:16:37,180 --> 00:16:38,630
Like what?
Someone who's bored, Someone is

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00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,260
bored.
Ohh hello everyone.

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I'm I don't have much hair.
Boy, my voice sounds a little

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00:16:45,650 --> 00:16:48,080
bit different now we've got lots
of hair.

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00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:50,070
It soaked up the soaks up, the
was thinking.

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00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,190
More Ross Kemp.
Alright mate, I'm bored.

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00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:56,920
Anyway, from extras.
That's it.

430
00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,270
So yeah, a few jokes.
And obviously you've joked about

431
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it as well.
So you've you've trained

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children to say OK as.
Retaliation for being called an

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ogre everyday.
Let's make that clear.

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00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,770
No, I'm.
I'm the Gruffalo.

435
00:17:08,780 --> 00:17:10,589
Works in year four, right?
Yeah, Yeah.

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00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:12,869
There we go.
So he's trained kids to say make

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00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,440
jokes about my baldness.
Anyway, the free hairs.

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00:17:17,420 --> 00:17:19,609
Yeah, I'm gonna.
Stop and and then the kids At

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00:17:19,619 --> 00:17:21,750
one point this song, the song
like baldy Baldy over there,

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you've got no hair, something
like that.

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00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:26,550
Like Baldy Baldy over there.
What's it like to have no hair.

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00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:29,390
And a couple of them sang.
Never thought that like a break

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time.
And I was like did the whole.

444
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That's so cheeky because you
can't say that.

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00:17:33,250 --> 00:17:34,370
Anyway there's nothing more of
it.

446
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They just wanna giggled or run
off until umm, I was dismissing

447
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the kids at the end of the day.
Yeah.

448
00:17:40,430 --> 00:17:44,700
And are you small sibling OK of
one of the children who's not

449
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ask us.
We're a Junior School.

450
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They they must be in like year
one or something.

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Come running over really excited
and when ohh dear baldy got no

452
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hair ohh no What's it like to
have no hair little kid?

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00:17:59,890 --> 00:18:03,440
I don't know who this child is
on the playground like in front

454
00:18:03,450 --> 00:18:05,050
of all like the parents and my
kids.

455
00:18:05,060 --> 00:18:07,760
I'm dismissing.
I'm like ohh was so awkward

456
00:18:07,770 --> 00:18:09,800
because my instant reaction was
I need to tell this child off

457
00:18:09,810 --> 00:18:12,190
because that's like they've
crossed the line.

458
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,350
I don't mind it when kids
understand the line and they

459
00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:17,060
know why.
Joke I don't even know the kid

460
00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:19,400
in my class.
Their sibling has obviously gone

461
00:18:19,410 --> 00:18:21,580
home and.
Said.

462
00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:23,550
This is what we've said to my
teacher.

463
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,470
And I'm like, Oh no, this is
where it goes wrong.

464
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,830
Yeah, because that's not OK.
No, that's where.

465
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,290
You've made your bed and you
have to line it because that

466
00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:35,900
situation you cannot possibly
then tell her off like her

467
00:18:35,910 --> 00:18:38,810
brother's done it in school to
his teacher shouting at the

468
00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:42,980
yeah, yeah, no, no, no, Ohh.
So I was just I was like ohh

469
00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:45,280
this is so cringe and I hope the
parents aren't listening cause

470
00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:47,350
anyone if I was, if I was a
parent and saw that I'd be

471
00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:48,700
thinking about teachers.
Got no control.

472
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:50,480
OK, so.
Here's the thing, then.

473
00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:54,250
That is the point, isn't it?
If you if there's something that

474
00:18:54,260 --> 00:18:57,900
happens and you wouldn't want
parents to hear it, then it's

475
00:18:57,910 --> 00:18:59,920
not good, is it?
I don't know.

476
00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:02,670
Because it might just be that I
think they don't know the

477
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,740
context, so.
I guess so, but in that.

478
00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:06,220
Situation I wouldn't want them
well.

479
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:08,280
Yeah.
And this is the problem with as

480
00:19:08,290 --> 00:19:11,200
a teacher, especially in year
six when they've had five other

481
00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:15,550
teachers or 6-7 other teachers
ever who have this line where

482
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,580
that's not acceptable for you
to.

483
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:19,330
Then in year six we're like, Oh
yeah, that is acceptable.

484
00:19:19,340 --> 00:19:21,110
That's obviously going to go
around and be like.

485
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,050
Yeah, because I'd feel if we had
another bald teacher at school,

486
00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:26,430
Yeah.
And then they went and did that

487
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,670
to them.
I would feel awkward because I

488
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,170
don't want to presume that
you're OK Sure.

489
00:19:29,180 --> 00:19:30,670
Sure, sure, sure.
Exactly.

490
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,590
Yeah.
And it could work with children.

491
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,560
I think the onus is always on
us.

492
00:19:34,570 --> 00:19:35,770
We need to own it.
Own it.

493
00:19:35,780 --> 00:19:37,450
And be like, OK, yeah, that's my
problem.

494
00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:39,870
Yeah, so own it.
I cried.

495
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,990
And went off.
Yeah, you did.

496
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:41,980
You did.
It was just really.

497
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:44,050
Awkward.
Just stop doing that.

498
00:19:44,060 --> 00:19:45,750
Well, no, I.
Think it's just when I look

499
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,170
over.
To you.

500
00:19:46,180 --> 00:19:50,790
Then you realise.
Yeah, it's me.

501
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,080
Get on my high horse.
I think you just have to own it.

502
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:57,640
Years of saying it's OK now.
No.

503
00:19:57,650 --> 00:20:00,020
Now go and get Lord Baltimore
his lunch, please.

504
00:20:00,030 --> 00:20:02,940
Thank you.
Yeah, but anyway, all good.

505
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,230
So that's a long 20 minute.
It's a really long term.

506
00:20:05,410 --> 00:20:06,810
Didn't even talk.
About your day what?

507
00:20:07,550 --> 00:20:10,060
Was going to say is there's a
whole thing a minute with darts.

508
00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:13,120
Been up for the darts because
the maths doubles trebles and

509
00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:14,390
things.
The only thing I was going to

510
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,280
say, it's been a whole discourse
on like the news and stuff, like

511
00:20:17,290 --> 00:20:19,240
GB News and why they keep going
on about it.

512
00:20:19,410 --> 00:20:21,990
And it keeps popping up.
Like call for darts in schools

513
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,310
because it's good for maths
class.

514
00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:25,770
No.
Yeah.

515
00:20:25,780 --> 00:20:27,740
Like, no.
Like I I, I watched the darts

516
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:29,670
and I was like, that's really
cool opportunity.

517
00:20:29,860 --> 00:20:31,990
We can use that.
Of course we can do it every now

518
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,590
and then.
Yeah.

519
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,130
Amazing.
What do you mean though?

520
00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:36,050
Call for ducks?
Are we just gonna do doubles or

521
00:20:36,060 --> 00:20:38,320
you replace?
Them maths and yeah, we're just.

522
00:20:38,330 --> 00:20:41,450
Gonna it's a really cool tool
and we should as teachers be

523
00:20:41,460 --> 00:20:44,350
looking for tools and I'm gonna
use it at some point and I think

524
00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:48,230
it's great and we can watch
YouTube videos or get a magnetic

525
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,930
dartboard but it would be the
same as getting a fractional it

526
00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:53,790
would be the same as getting
some counters it it's just a

527
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,310
resource the idea of like course
written score.

528
00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,190
Look at his look at his yeah
this kid didn't get GCSE maths

529
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,880
so didn't get any like he he
didn't pass his maths GCSE's and

530
00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:06,510
he's amazing at darts as good as
you can possibly be at like

531
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,120
arithmetic and stuff.
So that does show that the darts

532
00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:12,540
isn't the answer to get kids to
their GP.

533
00:21:12,550 --> 00:21:14,660
Yeah, it shows.
It's a really cool thing.

534
00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:17,180
That's amazing for that one and
that can really help a lot of

535
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:18,220
kids.
And what he's done is

536
00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:20,260
unbelievable as all the way
behind him.

537
00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:23,700
But let's not pretend that Ohh,
let's put that into while

538
00:21:23,710 --> 00:21:24,930
they're not doing that in
schools.

539
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,470
Again, because it's not useful
for the curriculum like as a

540
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,280
whole, it's useful for a bit.
It's also a.

541
00:21:29,290 --> 00:21:33,120
Very specific end game kind of
knowledge, doubles and triples.

542
00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:35,790
But.
Also an adding yeah, but it's

543
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,090
the start on 5/01 is the
instantly knowing what they're

544
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:39,830
down to.
Yeah yeah.

545
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,900
When they hit some darts and
what they need to change to,

546
00:21:41,910 --> 00:21:45,260
like if they miss, they know
exactly what stuff like that.

547
00:21:45,370 --> 00:21:49,240
It's a cool skill.
But when my kids don't know the

548
00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:53,110
number ones to 10, Yeah, that is
not that.

549
00:21:53,150 --> 00:21:56,490
Darts is the absolute end game
of that kind of knowledge.

550
00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:58,470
It's like that's not something
I'd ever want to do with those

551
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,110
kids.
Yeah, unless the darts went up

552
00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:01,300
to two.
Can you imagine?

553
00:22:01,310 --> 00:22:04,390
Me is like one and two only.
I just, it's just I I get it's

554
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,350
cool.
But I'd probably only do it as

555
00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:09,210
like an enrichment activity with
the best mathematicians really

556
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,540
at the primary school level.
Like we're on 200.

557
00:22:11,550 --> 00:22:13,870
And 73?
I've just hit 318.

558
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,930
Two sevens and a four.
What am I left with?

559
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,980
Yeah, and.
How many of your kids?

560
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:19,190
Well, I.
Didn't do it.

561
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,410
It's not relevant.
I watched arts and I absolutely

562
00:22:21,420 --> 00:22:23,270
can't do that.
Yeah, it's a skill, isn't it?

563
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,490
Like it doesn't.
I'm good at maths but I cannot

564
00:22:25,570 --> 00:22:26,730
do that.
Yeah, I've not learned that

565
00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:27,510
skill.
It's a cool.

566
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,380
Skill to have.
No no harm in teaching the kids

567
00:22:29,390 --> 00:22:31,430
here.
Please stop telling us to put in

568
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,760
well the timetables already
round.

569
00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:36,570
Ohh.
That's that's like a a call

570
00:22:36,580 --> 00:22:38,970
forward to you know what we're
going to talk about is the

571
00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:41,010
timetable.
Fit for purpose?

572
00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:42,110
That's cool.
Let's do a.

573
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:43,990
Jingle and come back to that
question.

574
00:22:46,460 --> 00:22:49,650
So Hayden, before the Jingle I
asked you one simple question.

575
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:53,050
Is the primary school timetable
fit for purpose?

576
00:22:53,060 --> 00:22:54,150
Thanks for.
Reminding me Dylan.

577
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,660
I hadn't.
I hadn't remembered that, no.

578
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,590
How many times have we made that
joke we are?

579
00:23:01,660 --> 00:23:04,600
So record you know.
OK, let's let's dive a bit more

580
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,350
real.
Answer OK, real answer.

581
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,830
Now, so the primary school
timetable, it's a very generic

582
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,050
question.
We're gonna go into lots of

583
00:23:10,060 --> 00:23:12,520
detail about lots of different
parts of the timetable, the

584
00:23:12,530 --> 00:23:14,700
amount of stuff we have to
teach, the order we have to

585
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:18,370
teach it, the proportion of what
we get for each lesson, etc etc.

586
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,160
But in general, what is your
first response to this question?

587
00:23:21,170 --> 00:23:24,310
Because it's a big one at the
minute, a lot of discussion

588
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,240
around it.
Is the primary school timetable

589
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,480
fit for purpose?
Does it meet a goal?

590
00:23:29,490 --> 00:23:31,080
Is it?
Is it there for a reason?

591
00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:32,120
Is it good?
So if someone.

592
00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:34,100
On the street asked if I wasn't
in the podcast right now where I

593
00:23:34,110 --> 00:23:35,760
know we're gonna talk about it
forever, and someone just asked

594
00:23:35,770 --> 00:23:37,340
me that and they wanted a fairly
quick answer.

595
00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:41,920
My gut reaction to that is I
don't think so because it

596
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:44,460
doesn't feel like we can fit it
all in.

597
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:47,170
OK, I think that would be.
That's kind of like the big

598
00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:49,080
answer, which we can dive into a
bit more.

599
00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:53,450
But it just doesn't feel.
I constantly feel like I'm not

600
00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:55,260
doing all of the things I should
be doing.

601
00:23:55,270 --> 00:23:57,440
Or you'll speak to teachers from
other schools and like, what?

602
00:23:57,450 --> 00:23:59,010
You only do three lessons of
that week.

603
00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:01,100
We do 5.
Because then the curriculum says

604
00:24:01,110 --> 00:24:02,710
you have to do five of these.
Yeah.

605
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,880
And it's like, well, we can't
fit.

606
00:24:03,890 --> 00:24:05,960
If we do that, then we have to
drop something else in another

607
00:24:05,970 --> 00:24:07,270
school.
The thing you dropped to be

608
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,660
like, oh, no, you can't drop
that.

609
00:24:08,670 --> 00:24:10,150
That's really important.
We do.

610
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,250
We we make sure we do an art and
DT lesson every single week of

611
00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:15,760
every of every term.
And we're like, OK, well, we

612
00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:18,130
can't drop that then it does
just get to the point.

613
00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:20,860
If you carry on doing that and
then go for that analogy, it's

614
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:22,570
like, OK, we can't actually fit
it all in.

615
00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:25,240
So what would your answer be
like you know, if someone said

616
00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:27,490
to you, no.
OK, so you're given the the

617
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,770
ability to now design A
timetable because you're saying

618
00:24:30,780 --> 00:24:33,780
the timetable itself is wrong.
There's almost two prongs here

619
00:24:33,790 --> 00:24:36,940
of the timetable and the amount
of stuff we have to do.

620
00:24:37,070 --> 00:24:39,540
So OK, the amount of stuff we
have to do is too much.

621
00:24:39,550 --> 00:24:41,400
Agreed.
So then what would you do with

622
00:24:41,410 --> 00:24:43,840
the timetable and how can you
fix this?

623
00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:45,660
If the timetable is not fit for
purpose?

624
00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:50,540
What would be your answer?
Not saying do less the actual

625
00:24:50,550 --> 00:24:53,790
timetable itself.
What do you think is wrong with

626
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,470
it?
This is this is.

627
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,280
Where it's really hard because I
don't think that.

628
00:24:56,590 --> 00:24:58,820
I think it's hard to answer that
question because I'm, I mean,

629
00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:02,690
maybe you've got an answer but
I'm not sure the timetable or

630
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:05,020
anything to do with the
timetable is the solution

631
00:25:05,290 --> 00:25:09,890
because I do.
I think there is literally just

632
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,710
too much to fit in.
I don't think there's any

633
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,930
magical timetable you could do.
Yeah, with this curriculum where

634
00:25:14,940 --> 00:25:17,830
you feel like you've adequately
covered every subject to the

635
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,650
level that they're supposed to
be covered in.

636
00:25:19,660 --> 00:25:20,990
OK.
I don't know.

637
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,990
What do you think?
Well, we asked again on

638
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,050
Instagram a simple question.
Given the power, would you

639
00:25:27,060 --> 00:25:29,530
change your schools timetable?
Nothing to do with what needs to

640
00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:31,980
be covered.
So let's try and focus down that

641
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:33,200
narrow bit I suppose for a
minute.

642
00:25:34,130 --> 00:25:36,300
And 58% said, yes, I would
change it.

643
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:39,600
Now 42% said they wouldn't and I
think that's boiled down to

644
00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:41,860
what's the point in changing it.
Yeah, we love same thing you

645
00:25:41,870 --> 00:25:42,730
said.
Well, what's the point?

646
00:25:42,740 --> 00:25:44,170
Because then we'll just be
missing four they.

647
00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:45,660
Just got a good timetable,
exactly.

648
00:25:45,670 --> 00:25:47,020
They need to get in touch with
us to tell us.

649
00:25:47,270 --> 00:25:50,420
Yeah, but 58% still said yes, I
would change it.

650
00:25:50,610 --> 00:25:56,000
And I suppose their point is OK,
we've got too much to cover.

651
00:25:56,330 --> 00:26:00,720
But in the current system, one
person said to me, I would love

652
00:26:00,730 --> 00:26:03,340
for a bit more creativity.
I'd love for a bit more of a

653
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:04,910
chance for children to be
Mystic.

654
00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:08,190
Yeah, I'd hate I I want a bit
less of a concentration on maths

655
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,010
and English.
Yeah, that's and science and and

656
00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:13,230
you know, although they're
important, they certainly do

657
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,130
take up a huge chunk of the
timetable.

658
00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:19,090
So do you think there's any
merit in the timetable, perhaps

659
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:21,730
changing to reflect the fact
that not everyone's got an

660
00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:24,150
English or maths or a science
lesson?

661
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,630
Kind of money.
There are creatives out there,

662
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,430
definitely.
All right.

663
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,990
I think if we just for a minute,
we're just ignore the end goal

664
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,970
that the government pressure the
assessment.

665
00:26:33,980 --> 00:26:38,010
If we ignore the fact that we
all get grilled as a country, as

666
00:26:38,020 --> 00:26:40,470
a profession.
If we dropped a mass lesson a

667
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,010
week and actually the standard
of mass went down ever so

668
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:45,700
slightly, but children were
happy and doing because if they

669
00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:46,770
if.
They did that and got better at

670
00:26:46,780 --> 00:26:48,050
art.
There'd be no way of telling,

671
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:48,860
really, no.
And they.

672
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:50,360
And the government don't care
about this, that's why, I mean

673
00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:52,800
from the government have made it
very, very clear.

674
00:26:52,810 --> 00:26:55,910
So for those not in education,
it's, you know, it's always been

675
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,340
maths and English heavy and
science, it used to be a lot

676
00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:01,050
more important.
But over the last, like 10 years

677
00:27:01,060 --> 00:27:04,710
we have become obsessed.
Obsessed with maths and English

678
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,740
only specifically about nothing
else matters.

679
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,200
We will pretend, the government
pretend.

680
00:27:08,210 --> 00:27:09,560
Oh yeah, these subjects are
important.

681
00:27:09,570 --> 00:27:12,310
But but look at these big league
tables we've got and we're going

682
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,580
to compare internationally with
maths.

683
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:15,690
Come on guys, China are smashing
us in maths.

684
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:19,840
Yeah, come on teachers.
Yeah, if we just ignored that

685
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:22,180
for a bit, I think we probably
could make a better timetable

686
00:27:22,190 --> 00:27:25,820
where maybe we didn't do maths
and English every single day,

687
00:27:25,870 --> 00:27:28,500
even just four days a week.
How much time that would free

688
00:27:28,510 --> 00:27:31,330
up?
Like most school, I'd say the

689
00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:34,020
majority of schools in this
country, based on my limited

690
00:27:34,030 --> 00:27:36,030
knowledge just from talking to
other teachers, do maths and

691
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,650
English every single day.
Ohh absolutely.

692
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,770
Absolutely.
Over 95%, I think.

693
00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:40,360
Yeah.
Yeah.

694
00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:42,690
There are schools that don't, I
have definitely heard of schools

695
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:45,540
where it's like, Oh no, no, we
we just have like 3 or 4 maths

696
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:47,910
sessions a week.
One of them's in the afternoon.

697
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,880
Yeah, three of them are in the
morning, but don't you?

698
00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:52,530
Think that with English and
maths in particular there

699
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:55,090
there's so much emphasis put on
them because they're so

700
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:57,230
important, they come up
everywhere, right?

701
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,530
Reading a mass comes up and
everything OK, so therefore a

702
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:04,070
science lesson could be maths,
history and geography lessons

703
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,090
could be.
Reading history is almost

704
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:09,070
always, yeah.
So there's no reason why we

705
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,270
can't have less English time in
inverted commas and more history

706
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,920
time.
Well, they're still reading,

707
00:28:14,930 --> 00:28:17,310
they're still learning new
vocabulary, they're still going

708
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,700
to be doing spelling like
they're going to be doing

709
00:28:19,710 --> 00:28:21,560
handwriting in the afternoon.
You can still, you can still do

710
00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:25,060
this kind of stuff built in
cross curricula, but less, I

711
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:27,400
don't know.
I feel like with that there

712
00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:30,060
seems to be less structure and a
huge thing that's really

713
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:32,640
important to people in teaching
and myself included.

714
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:35,990
I like structure.
So the idea of daily maths,

715
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,560
daily English, three afternoon
lessons a week, one afternoon of

716
00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:43,160
PE, one afternoon of PPA.
I know my PPA days on a Tuesday.

717
00:28:43,270 --> 00:28:45,200
I know that on a Friday I'm
going to do an arithmetic test

718
00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:46,380
in the morning.
Yeah, I know that.

719
00:28:46,390 --> 00:28:48,960
I'm gonna check timetables every
single day from this time to

720
00:28:48,970 --> 00:28:51,680
this time.
I suppose the timetable at the

721
00:28:51,690 --> 00:28:53,960
minute is really good for that
kind of structure, yeah.

722
00:28:54,030 --> 00:28:57,120
Yeah, and.
Moving away from that, you're

723
00:28:57,130 --> 00:28:59,100
gonna lose some of that
structure and that kind of

724
00:28:59,110 --> 00:29:00,320
knowing what you're doing every
day.

725
00:29:00,330 --> 00:29:03,470
So in your point of view, how
important is it for a timetable

726
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,520
to be consistent compared to all
over the place?

727
00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:09,070
This is a tough.
One, because I think it does

728
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,200
boil down a bit to personal
preference here, right?

729
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:16,220
I am similar to you.
I really, really like a very set

730
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:19,980
routine, but I think that is
because I just the job is so

731
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:21,030
stressful.
Sure.

732
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,110
I think there's there's lots of
elements here that are all like

733
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,170
working together.
I think if the job wasn't as

734
00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:27,870
stressful, if I didn't have as,
if the pressures of maths and

735
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,480
English maybe weren't so heavy,
then maybe I would be a bit more

736
00:29:30,490 --> 00:29:32,830
inclined to have a more flexible
timetable.

737
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,120
I know that's one of our points
to talk about is this kind of,

738
00:29:35,970 --> 00:29:39,080
you know, most schools have a
static timetable, I think.

739
00:29:39,130 --> 00:29:41,120
I think most schools, if you
went in there, they'd be like,

740
00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:42,540
yeah, on Mondays.
We did this on Tuesdays, we do

741
00:29:42,550 --> 00:29:44,090
this weekend.
On the table a weekly.

742
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:46,100
Timetable.
Sometimes that changes per term.

743
00:29:46,150 --> 00:29:48,700
Yeah, like I know our certainly
does every, every term

744
00:29:48,790 --> 00:29:49,500
afternoons.
Do.

745
00:29:49,550 --> 00:29:50,880
Yeah, we'll.
Do different things in the

746
00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:52,620
afternoon or whatever.
But generally, you know, I'm

747
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:54,220
saying it's the same time every
single day.

748
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:57,960
But I have a friend who works in
a school where they have a

749
00:29:57,970 --> 00:30:01,900
flexible timetable and they will
do English at different times at

750
00:30:01,910 --> 00:30:03,600
different weeks.
And I'm like, how can you cope

751
00:30:03,610 --> 00:30:04,940
with that?
Like, yeah, we just the week

752
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:07,150
before, we just kind of map out
our week, right?

753
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,770
Map out.
Yeah.

754
00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:09,210
You know we've got a lot of
history to this week.

755
00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:11,090
So when I drop one of the
English lessons, we're gonna do

756
00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:13,940
double history and then next
week we're gonna pop in another

757
00:30:13,950 --> 00:30:16,600
English in the do you think?
That's better, more responsive

758
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,290
it probably.
Probably is better, yeah.

759
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:19,990
Stress.
More stressful, I think, as a

760
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,890
teacher.
More workload I suppose in terms

761
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:24,290
of this is the problem with
being a teacher at the minute I

762
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,570
feel like everything that makes
you a good teacher is extra

763
00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:29,940
workload.
So it used to be years ago, you

764
00:30:29,950 --> 00:30:32,170
wouldn't mind, wouldn't care,
sitting down and being

765
00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:34,570
responsive and be like, I
actually know what it would be

766
00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:38,020
really useful if the children,
let's say history, right.

767
00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:40,800
They didn't quite get this topic
last time.

768
00:30:40,990 --> 00:30:43,300
So I'm going to use this lesson
now instead of starting the new

769
00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:44,800
topic.
I'm going to go over it because

770
00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:46,950
it goes from maybe Greeks to
Romans or something.

771
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,680
Like there's kind of a thread
through there.

772
00:30:48,690 --> 00:30:51,460
Yeah, it's, it's the next step
in history in terms of maybe

773
00:30:51,470 --> 00:30:54,080
going from through the Iron Age
and the Bronze Age and the Stone

774
00:30:54,090 --> 00:30:56,180
Age and things like that.
And they didn't quite get that.

775
00:30:56,190 --> 00:30:58,220
So be really useful for me to
actually just sit down, look at

776
00:30:58,230 --> 00:31:01,840
the old time plan a bit of a
recap lesson, put that in there,

777
00:31:01,850 --> 00:31:04,200
shift this around, and then we
can do an extra lesson in the

778
00:31:04,210 --> 00:31:06,210
morning because you know what,
actually that English.

779
00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:08,040
We can drop that off because
we've done loads of that.

780
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,550
Yeah, that is objectively much
better teaching objectively,

781
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,850
yeah.
But it's much more workload.

782
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,910
And at the moment, I I would
absolutely err on the side of

783
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,250
saying, well, OK, let's let's
just do the lesson.

784
00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:25,160
If the kids didn't quite get it,
I'll try and pick up the gaps

785
00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:26,830
during the lesson.
But it's easier for me just to

786
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,760
start onto this new topic.
And I think that's a big part of

787
00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:33,600
the culture of teaching now,
which is shifting, is people are

788
00:31:33,610 --> 00:31:37,150
moving towards the easier option
only because they're already

789
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,510
horrendously stressed, the
cognitive load huge.

790
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,200
That's it.
Isn't it?

791
00:31:40,210 --> 00:31:41,440
It's the cognitive load.
They're already.

792
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:42,980
Working really hard.
When I say the easy option, I

793
00:31:42,990 --> 00:31:45,530
mean of that exact thing, yeah,
they're already doing 10 million

794
00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:46,340
other things as well.
When?

795
00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:48,060
You're cognitive load is already
maxed out.

796
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:50,000
You're not.
Gonna make history your priority

797
00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:53,790
to replan and do no when you've
got so much stress and timetable

798
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,060
time on English and maths and
things like with assessments.

799
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:57,820
Coming up and all that, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.

800
00:31:57,830 --> 00:32:02,090
It's tricky one.
Same as PPA saw recently online

801
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:05,340
took people talking about PPA,
flexible PPA or not and someone

802
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:07,010
was asking like do you do is
inflexible?

803
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:10,890
Like you choose or well.
As in like, so in our careers

804
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:13,500
we've always had static Cpas and
it's the same day every week.

805
00:32:13,510 --> 00:32:14,960
At the same time, like Gary, I
like I.

806
00:32:14,970 --> 00:32:15,860
Like that?
Yeah, me.

807
00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:16,880
Too.
Yeah, I like that.

808
00:32:16,890 --> 00:32:19,870
But I recently learned just from
reading some stuff that some

809
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,910
schools don't do that.
So in some schools, in this one

810
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:26,360
I was reading about in
particular on at the end of a

811
00:32:26,370 --> 00:32:28,960
week, they would get their PA
timetable for the next week, so

812
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:30,260
P.
A For anyone who doesn't know is

813
00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:32,460
time out, right, Yeah, so it's.
Our planning, preparation and

814
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:34,410
assessment time, so we just.
Time out of class to do whatever

815
00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:36,050
we need to do to get ready.
Yes, if you're a.

816
00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:38,970
Teacher, you get you're entitled
to 10% a week of your teaching

817
00:32:38,980 --> 00:32:40,630
time, which is normally like
half a day.

818
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,790
You might get like an afternoon
or morning out of class to

819
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,720
basically just sort out the rest
of your job.

820
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:48,260
Go back and listen to our PM so
to find out why that is not so

821
00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:51,110
good.
And yeah, this person was

822
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,360
assassinated.
I've never heard of it.

823
00:32:52,370 --> 00:32:56,390
This person was talking about
getting their PPA timetable on

824
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,920
like the Friday or just at the
end of the week before to be

825
00:32:58,930 --> 00:33:01,130
like your PPA next week is going
to be on this day.

826
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:03,370
Wow.
So they never know when their PA

827
00:33:03,380 --> 00:33:04,490
is gonna be, so they don't, do
they?

828
00:33:05,140 --> 00:33:06,550
OK.
That's really interesting

829
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,370
because a big thing about PPA is
that teachers aren't to prepare

830
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:13,460
or market anything for it.
So if that's constantly being

831
00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:16,400
changed, like for example, it's
Tuesday morning, right, have

832
00:33:16,410 --> 00:33:17,560
just planning.
Yeah, thank you.

833
00:33:17,570 --> 00:33:19,850
We'll use that.
So yeah, I don't like the idea

834
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:22,090
of that because I think it
brings so many more problems.

835
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,730
And they were saying that in
this thread that people talking

836
00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:25,920
about other schools do it as
well.

837
00:33:26,050 --> 00:33:28,370
And people like, yeah, sometimes
we don't get it as well until

838
00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:30,770
like on the week.
So imagine finding out on Monday

839
00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:33,180
morning.
Ohh, you got PPA now Monday

840
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:34,730
morning.
I've just planned lessons for

841
00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:35,460
this.
Yeah, that's.

842
00:33:35,470 --> 00:33:36,160
Awful.
And I didn't.

843
00:33:36,170 --> 00:33:37,770
Plan for Thursday.
I thought maybe that was gonna

844
00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:39,170
be my PA again.
Do you plan your?

845
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:40,740
Yeah.
Do you plan your PA time though

846
00:33:40,750 --> 00:33:43,940
in terms of I know for example,
in PA next week, right?

847
00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:47,360
I'm going to be planning some
English for week 4 of term.

848
00:33:47,630 --> 00:33:48,660
I never.
Planned it?

849
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:49,690
No, no.
But what?

850
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,880
Sorry, what I mean is, do you
plan your time?

851
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:55,460
So my my time in PPA?
I've got PPA.

852
00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:57,340
I know that.
OK, cool.

853
00:33:57,670 --> 00:34:00,880
My PA is on a Tuesday.
I know I've got to do something

854
00:34:00,890 --> 00:34:03,660
for Friday morning.
Now I might say getting my P I'm

855
00:34:03,670 --> 00:34:04,960
gonna get that Friday morning
job done.

856
00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:06,580
So I know I don't have to do
outside of school.

857
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:10,159
I I've chunked my PA on Tuesday
now to say OK for the for the

858
00:34:10,170 --> 00:34:12,710
first hour I'm going to get a
couple of lessons planned for

859
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,540
week 4.
Sure.

860
00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:17,270
So my point is if that's moved
or taken away it might scupper

861
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,940
your plans.
Might my my swallowing.

862
00:34:19,949 --> 00:34:23,080
Apparently it's scuppered my
plans in terms of OK, I was

863
00:34:23,090 --> 00:34:24,600
going to use that time to do
this.

864
00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:27,120
It makes me less.
I'm already not very organised,

865
00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:30,920
so the minimal thing I can have
control over of I'm doing work

866
00:34:30,929 --> 00:34:33,909
in school, my PPA.
If that's been moved round, I

867
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,790
feel like that would set me off.
You're right.

868
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,630
Because actually I do for
example we do Friday like

869
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,370
arithmetic test on Friday sure.
And I do often plan it for that

870
00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:45,210
week in that week PA, PA And
it's just one of the things I do

871
00:34:45,219 --> 00:34:46,530
every week.
It's like I'm gonna plan this

872
00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:49,590
week's arithmetic test because
we always do it based on the

873
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,280
most recent like understanding
of their of what we write them

874
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,889
we write them arithmetic test.
So if your.

875
00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:56,889
PPA were coming up PS on Friday
afternoon.

876
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:59,460
You just got to do that now,
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

877
00:34:59,470 --> 00:35:00,640
At some other point, yeah, it
would be.

878
00:35:00,650 --> 00:35:03,110
Really annoying, so I don't like
the idea of flexible PPA.

879
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,460
Let us know if you to, because I
don't know, I don't actually

880
00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:08,180
know anyone personally.
Yeah, who is in that situation

881
00:35:08,190 --> 00:35:11,870
where their PPA is decided upon
flexibly each week like that

882
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,580
sounds horrendous and when it's
set.

883
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:18,400
When it's set though, like I
just when it's moved around,

884
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:21,240
rather, it feels like there's so
much more opportunity for it to

885
00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:23,100
be dropped off.
Whereas when it's set, it's

886
00:35:23,110 --> 00:35:25,630
like, OK, everyone knows every
Tuesday the sports coach is

887
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,520
gonna be doing this and that.
Didn't you do a?

888
00:35:27,530 --> 00:35:29,460
Poll Yeah, I did a.
Poll on Instagram and it was

889
00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:33,970
basically what is your PPA
consistent, So vast majority as

890
00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:37,290
we expect, 75%, yes, consistent,
still not as high as I thought

891
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:39,620
it would be.
I thought it be much higher, 15%

892
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:41,290
of people have it moved around.
Wow.

893
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:42,430
That's.
Way less good.

894
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,920
Yeah.
So this is the thing that I

895
00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:49,340
just, I never understand 10%.
Yeah, clicked lucky if we get

896
00:35:49,350 --> 00:35:51,230
it.
And I don't get it because in

897
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:55,960
the timetable, to me PPA is
sacrosanct and very luckily it's

898
00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:58,340
sacrosanct to our management as
well.

899
00:35:58,350 --> 00:36:00,980
There is never a question, it's
not even a thing.

900
00:36:00,990 --> 00:36:04,020
Whereas I think I've worked in
schools before where if you lose

901
00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:08,920
your PPA it's like, oh God, I'm
like you're kind of like your

902
00:36:08,930 --> 00:36:12,090
thumbs and you're like, could
you please Sir, may I have some

903
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,480
more all?
Right.

904
00:36:13,490 --> 00:36:16,430
We'll we'll take you out of that
really crucial lesson to give

905
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,610
you some BA.
Please, Sir.

906
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,050
May I have my basic rights as as
a as a worker in your place.

907
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:23,670
Yes, of course you can like, so
I know how it feels.

908
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,270
Some people being like, yeah,
give taking it away and then

909
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,830
they feel awkward to ask.
Yeah, well, that's.

910
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,130
What toxic schools are all about
that if you work in a toxic

911
00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:35,200
school, you know this feeling of
you feel bad for the things that

912
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:37,390
you should just have.
You're what you're owed.

913
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:40,140
You feel bad for asking about
it.

914
00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:42,250
If you're in that kind of place,
get out.

915
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,010
Get out.
Honestly, it's not a good place.

916
00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:48,490
You should feel empowered, yeah,
to be given what you deserve.

917
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:49,710
I don't even.
Feel that empowered.

918
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,510
I just feel like it's just a
thing.

919
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,570
Like if if ever we missed, for
example, we went back on a

920
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:57,110
Monday, which was bank holiday,
sorry, we went back on a Tuesday

921
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,140
this year, you would have missed
your PPA.

922
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,440
Wasn't even a thing.
It's just like, OK, it's planned

923
00:37:01,450 --> 00:37:03,130
for this year.
You're gonna get this release

924
00:37:03,140 --> 00:37:04,880
time.
So in that respect he has moved.

925
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:06,310
But that's because you weren't
gonna get it.

926
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Yeah, and now you've got it.
And I've worked in schools

927
00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:11,520
before where if there was a bank
holiday, so one person, Mr PA,

928
00:37:11,530 --> 00:37:12,920
right.
But one year group, let's say

929
00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:13,940
Miss PA.
Yeah.

930
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,680
The answer would be no one gets
P that week then Yes.

931
00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:17,400
Yeah.
What?

932
00:37:17,470 --> 00:37:20,780
Excuse me.
Yeah, Like I still need 10% of.

933
00:37:20,850 --> 00:37:24,760
If you're gonna be picky, give
me 10% of four days, then it's

934
00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:26,540
half an hour less.
OK, well, I'll still take it.

935
00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:28,200
The answer.
The answer is not.

936
00:37:28,210 --> 00:37:30,600
No one gets it.
The answer isn't just a scrap PA

937
00:37:30,610 --> 00:37:32,780
for the whole timetable.
The answer is sorry, no.

938
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:34,180
Give me my 10%.
So.

939
00:37:34,290 --> 00:37:36,040
Been there as well.
I think that's quite common.

940
00:37:36,350 --> 00:37:40,420
The response often back to that
is we had Monday off and the

941
00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:42,030
whole of Monday off doesn't
matter because.

942
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,170
That's not that's.
Not my it's not working time

943
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:46,190
though it's not. 10% of my
working time.

944
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,350
It's as simple as that.
So I worked four days that week.

945
00:37:49,390 --> 00:37:50,910
Cool.
What's 10% of four days?

946
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,610
Nought .4 of a day?
Thank you.

947
00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:53,630
Give it to me.
I love that.

948
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,570
Yeah, literally.
Honestly, it's unbelievable.

949
00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:58,470
There we go.
So timetables could be flexible

950
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,790
in terms of subjects.
We agree that that's probably

951
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,730
probably objectively better
because you can respond to that

952
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:07,380
need.
But PPA, I think we agree that

953
00:38:07,390 --> 00:38:09,670
that needs to be a set in stone
time.

954
00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:11,780
So do they are together?
They don't.

955
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:13,560
Obviously they don't do it, I
think.

956
00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:18,150
Well, OK, they can do because
other weekend settings though.

957
00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:21,920
Yes, yeah, of course they.
Are so we never move stuff to a

958
00:38:21,930 --> 00:38:23,520
Saturday.
We never moved off to a Sunday.

959
00:38:23,530 --> 00:38:24,940
Yeah.
So we just never moved stuff to

960
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:26,270
P afternoon.
Simple as that.

961
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,670
Everything.
Everything else to move around

962
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,420
through.
But that.

963
00:38:28,430 --> 00:38:30,780
That's as sacrosanct to me as a
Saturday or Sunday.

964
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:32,660
But I guess.
I guess it's more about what the

965
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:34,240
kids do, I suppose.
Yeah, the kids can just always

966
00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:36,360
do the thing they do in PA.
Yeah, that's the one thing

967
00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:38,220
that's static.
Yeah, so.

968
00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:41,160
What sports coach, for example?
Or have music?

969
00:38:41,170 --> 00:38:43,100
Yeah, whatever.
They do in PPA in your school.

970
00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:45,320
They just always do that.
That can never be changed.

971
00:38:45,590 --> 00:38:47,930
Because then that helps the
specialist teachers and we'll

972
00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:49,470
come on to specialist teachers
from.

973
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,510
But it helped specialist
teachers because they know.

974
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,290
OK, Tuesday I've got your 4.
I'm working through the sporting

975
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:56,110
curriculum of year four.
Every Tuesday I'm gonna do

976
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,850
basketball.
Yeah.

977
00:38:56,860 --> 00:38:58,270
The music specialist might know.
OK.

978
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,270
I'm doing recorders for year
five on on a Monday.

979
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,510
Yeah.
So every Monday.

980
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,330
I know I've.
I've got that consistency as

981
00:39:04,340 --> 00:39:06,080
well.
So is the timetable fit for

982
00:39:06,090 --> 00:39:08,450
purpose?
I think a lot of the time it is.

983
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:10,930
It's fit for the purpose of
delivering as much of the

984
00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:13,530
curriculum as possible.
But it depends what your purpose

985
00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:14,720
is.
I think that's the point I

986
00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:16,530
wanted to make from this.
And we're going to talk about

987
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:18,920
different types of children in
the 2nd and disruptions and

988
00:39:18,930 --> 00:39:21,360
things.
The timetable itself in my

989
00:39:21,370 --> 00:39:26,260
opinion can never be technically
fit for purpose because it can

990
00:39:26,270 --> 00:39:27,960
never be fit enough to fit in
everything.

991
00:39:28,030 --> 00:39:32,700
Yeah, however it is fit for
purpose in that it depends what

992
00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:35,400
the purpose of your school is.
If your school is concentrating

993
00:39:35,410 --> 00:39:37,320
on ensuring their massive
English drives up, you can do

994
00:39:37,330 --> 00:39:39,480
massage every day.
If your school is in a situation

995
00:39:39,490 --> 00:39:42,930
where actually you can afford to
move and drop in inverted

996
00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:45,240
commas, again some English and
do history which I still think

997
00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:48,460
the English and to enrich your
children even more objectively.

998
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:50,280
Good.
So what the purpose of your

999
00:39:50,290 --> 00:39:51,910
school depends on your
timetable.

1000
00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:55,380
That's why if you walk into 10
different schools you will see

1001
00:39:55,390 --> 00:39:58,170
ten different timetables.
There is there is no like set

1002
00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:00,450
way that you walk into a school
now.

1003
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,130
If you're a parent for example
and your children, your child's

1004
00:40:03,140 --> 00:40:04,870
going into school or is already
at school.

1005
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,550
If you move to schools, they'd
have to get used to a brand new

1006
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,460
timetable.
So it is the timetable fit for

1007
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:12,360
purpose.
That's down to your individual

1008
00:40:12,370 --> 00:40:14,160
school.
What's your school's purpose?

1009
00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:16,120
It's never gonna be able to fit
everything in that we're

1010
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:18,070
supposed to.
But what do you want your

1011
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,320
children to get out of it?
What I think is important for us

1012
00:40:21,330 --> 00:40:24,620
to to realise because you're
more, I think anti saying no

1013
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:28,040
it's not and I'm more yes.
I guess the point is what we're

1014
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:31,340
really disagreeing on is what is
the purpose of going to school?

1015
00:40:31,450 --> 00:40:34,490
What should the purpose of the
timetable be fulfilling?

1016
00:40:34,570 --> 00:40:39,320
And I suppose if you're saying
enrichment and being able to

1017
00:40:39,390 --> 00:40:41,610
access the whole curriculum
properly, it's obviously no,

1018
00:40:41,660 --> 00:40:43,290
Yeah, yeah.
It's never gonna work, Yeah, but

1019
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:44,580
if you.
Accept that it's never going to

1020
00:40:44,590 --> 00:40:48,860
work and be like, OK, well, I
can at least have an impact on

1021
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:51,340
my school's curriculum to meet
the purpose that we've all

1022
00:40:51,350 --> 00:40:54,180
agreed is important.
Yeah, then schools do have that

1023
00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:56,600
autonomy to teach however much
time they want.

1024
00:40:56,670 --> 00:40:58,800
There is nothing actually in the
curriculum, is there, that says

1025
00:40:58,810 --> 00:40:59,990
you have to teach maths every
day?

1026
00:41:00,050 --> 00:41:00,780
No, not.
At all.

1027
00:41:00,790 --> 00:41:02,080
It's just.
It's just that.

1028
00:41:02,130 --> 00:41:04,190
It's just that.
Maths curriculum is 80 pages

1029
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,600
long and the geography
curriculum is 2 pages long.

1030
00:41:06,610 --> 00:41:07,860
So what do you think is gonna
happen?

1031
00:41:07,870 --> 00:41:09,880
And we're tested on maths and
we're not tested on geography.

1032
00:41:09,890 --> 00:41:12,120
Yeah, what do you think's gonna
happen as a result of that?

1033
00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:14,090
Regardless of.
Best intentions Obviously people

1034
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,690
are gonna hone towards mass, so
spanner in the works then?

1035
00:41:17,310 --> 00:41:19,650
Just thinking again about this
sort of timetable being flexible

1036
00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:22,790
or whatever, being a big, big
push for a long long as I can

1037
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,360
remember anyway in teaching.
Maybe been around for a long

1038
00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:29,170
time of having things like
visual timetables in classrooms

1039
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,910
for children with special
educational needs.

1040
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,210
Sen registered children routine
can be really, really, really

1041
00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:39,590
important for those children,
hence the visual timetables.

1042
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,610
Do you think it could have a
negative impact of having a

1043
00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:44,440
flexible timetable or do you
think the visual timetable is

1044
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:46,400
enough to be like, no, they're
fine, they've got that changes

1045
00:41:46,410 --> 00:41:49,010
every day like where I see you?
Mean.

1046
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:52,270
I think so, yeah.
So basically you're saying a lot

1047
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,690
of children like routines are
being flexible is gonna disrupt?

1048
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:57,450
Yeah, and make them feel visual.
Timetables are useful.

1049
00:41:57,460 --> 00:41:59,150
I do like them.
I think they are useful.

1050
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,710
And I think it's good not only
for special educational needs

1051
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:04,850
for anyone in the classroom to
know we all have that child who

1052
00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:06,230
walks in and says what we doing
today.

1053
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:09,410
Yeah, well it in this afternoon.
And sometimes they are just

1054
00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:12,280
being nosy and sometimes it just
sets their mind at ease.

1055
00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:15,210
Especially, for example, if you
work in a school like us which

1056
00:42:15,220 --> 00:42:17,100
blocks there afternoon learning
into weeks.

1057
00:42:17,530 --> 00:42:19,570
But the children don't ask me
anymore what we doing this

1058
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:20,750
afternoon.
They say what we doing this

1059
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,360
week.
Yeah.

1060
00:42:21,370 --> 00:42:23,260
Said we're doing this week and
I'll say we're doing geography.

1061
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:26,110
We're gonna look at rivers or
yeah, we're doing DT We're gonna

1062
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,040
look at mechanisms and hinges
and things like that.

1063
00:42:29,110 --> 00:42:32,040
And I love telling them that
they get excited and they what

1064
00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:34,080
they can go home and look at
hinges or they can look up

1065
00:42:34,090 --> 00:42:37,190
rivers and things like that.
That that is enough for some

1066
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,010
children, Yeah.
But having it laid out on the

1067
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:42,590
board visually, even if it helps
one child in your class, it's

1068
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,890
clearly a good thing.
Now, I know for a fact I'm not

1069
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,110
very good at keeping on top of
it because that's just me as a

1070
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,110
teacher.
Yeah, I need to, I need to stop

1071
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,220
monitor basically because.
But the monitor, a really good

1072
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:55,050
thing to do would be to choose a
monitor who's a child who would

1073
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:57,450
use the visual timetable.
That's nice because because

1074
00:42:57,460 --> 00:43:00,210
then, you know they're they're
naturally going to come up to

1075
00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:03,330
you and what's going on today.
And it's no longer an

1076
00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:05,170
apprehension for them because
they just want to know

1077
00:43:05,180 --> 00:43:07,050
themselves.
Oh, I want to know what's going

1078
00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:08,640
on.
Do I ask him, do I not?

1079
00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:12,180
It's just they come up and ask
me and it's in the masquerade

1080
00:43:12,190 --> 00:43:14,100
off because you're doing the
visual timetable on the board.

1081
00:43:14,110 --> 00:43:15,170
Yeah.
So there, what we're doing

1082
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:17,780
today, not only are they getting
the answer straight away, but

1083
00:43:17,790 --> 00:43:20,880
they can pretend or not have the
pressure of it being for them.

1084
00:43:20,890 --> 00:43:22,560
It's for the class goes on the
board.

1085
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,780
So it's certainly something this
year I need to get more on top

1086
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:25,660
of.
Yeah.

1087
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:28,190
I've taught children in the
past, not many, to be honest

1088
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,840
with you, But I have taught
children in the past who are

1089
00:43:29,850 --> 00:43:33,310
really anxious about the
timetable and they really need

1090
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,180
to know what their day is going
to be.

1091
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:38,750
And I get it right and I do find
that, and it is slightly

1092
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,520
flexible it they're still not
really satisfied.

1093
00:43:41,530 --> 00:43:43,670
They're still anxious all
morning knowing that their day

1094
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,020
is probably going to be
different to what it was

1095
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:47,800
yesterday.
So the benefit, I think the

1096
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,990
small benefit of having a really
static timetable where it's like

1097
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:54,120
every day it's just the same,
it's just maths, English and

1098
00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:57,140
then this thing as in on a
Monday, it's always this rather

1099
00:43:57,150 --> 00:43:59,050
than like it's another lesson,
one that changed.

1100
00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:00,090
It will be whatever.
We do on a.

1101
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:02,590
Monday we always do topic.
Geography.

1102
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,550
Yeah, or just topic yet?
Hasn't even got a subject name.

1103
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,630
A lot of schools don't have,
like geography and history.

1104
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,570
They just have topics that have
those subjects weaved in them.

1105
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,560
Yeah, I think so there's a
massive benefit I think for

1106
00:44:12,570 --> 00:44:15,150
those children when it comes to
just they just know what a

1107
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,490
Monday is.
Cause Monday is the same every

1108
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:18,520
single week.
Yeah, but yeah visual timetable

1109
00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:21,170
was really, really good way.
Yeah, definitely, definitely

1110
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:22,800
recommend them.
I found them a nuisance in the

1111
00:44:22,810 --> 00:44:23,920
past.
I'll be honest with you.

1112
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,580
I have had plenty of times.
I'm like do I have to do this

1113
00:44:26,620 --> 00:44:28,460
And it might be just because
I've had.

1114
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:30,410
I just haven't had any children
in the class who have benefited

1115
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:32,730
from it or that you.
Know would benefit I know of.

1116
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:33,970
Yeah, yeah.
And retrospect.

1117
00:44:33,980 --> 00:44:36,240
I think it was a bit naive of me
because I've definitely had

1118
00:44:36,250 --> 00:44:37,690
glasses before.
I'm like, I haven't really

1119
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,060
bothered updating it and
actually there could have been a

1120
00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:41,720
child in that in that room, even
one.

1121
00:44:41,730 --> 00:44:43,380
Child, Then it's worth it.
Especially if you make it

1122
00:44:43,390 --> 00:44:45,320
autonomous.
Yeah, all you need to do is say

1123
00:44:45,330 --> 00:44:46,320
what's happening.
I do now.

1124
00:44:46,330 --> 00:44:48,440
Yeah, it's so easy.
I just have, I just have a

1125
00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:50,340
monitor who comes.
I pick someone who's always in

1126
00:44:50,350 --> 00:44:52,020
on time.
Yeah, because they come in and

1127
00:44:52,030 --> 00:44:55,090
they just update the thing every
day and it's just so much easier

1128
00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:56,640
because no one.
There's no anxiety.

1129
00:44:56,650 --> 00:44:59,020
So very easy thing to do.
Big win and it links.

1130
00:44:59,030 --> 00:45:02,240
To that classic thing you and I
always have, which is there is a

1131
00:45:02,250 --> 00:45:05,190
difference between something
that's objectively wrong and

1132
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,360
I'll argue to the cows come home
about teacher pay and government

1133
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,250
and and funding and stuff like
that.

1134
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,610
But there is then just stuff
which is just an opinion.

1135
00:45:13,660 --> 00:45:15,890
Yeah.
So like when when I I personally

1136
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:19,270
would would I would I make and
print off a visual timetable?

1137
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,910
No.
But I actually think it's the

1138
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,560
best thing to do That is that is
my incompetence coming out.

1139
00:45:25,570 --> 00:45:28,130
You know, it's not, it's not me
saying I I disagree with them.

1140
00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:30,590
There are there's things I don't
do because I don't think they're

1141
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,350
useful.
This is not one of them.

1142
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,290
This is something I don't do
because I just don't stay on top

1143
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:35,610
of it.
Another thing to think about.

1144
00:45:35,620 --> 00:45:37,730
I agree with it.
Completely cool.

1145
00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:39,510
Just bad at doing it, exactly,
yeah.

1146
00:45:39,790 --> 00:45:41,620
Yeah.
Do I make my displays look

1147
00:45:41,630 --> 00:45:43,240
beautiful every time?
No.

1148
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:45,240
That's a conscious choice
because I don't care.

1149
00:45:45,250 --> 00:45:46,620
I don't think that's remotely
useful.

1150
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:48,320
This is.
I still don't do it all the

1151
00:45:48,330 --> 00:45:49,900
time.
Yeah, that's something I need to

1152
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:51,180
work on, for sure.
Should.

1153
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:54,440
We talk about the big hole in
every in everything that we've

1154
00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:58,050
been discussing here, the
massive burning, burning hole

1155
00:45:58,060 --> 00:46:00,190
that ruined everything we've
been talking about to do that.

1156
00:46:00,710 --> 00:46:05,300
OK, so the problem, the big, big
problem is here.

1157
00:46:05,310 --> 00:46:08,620
No matter what you do with your
timetable, right, you're always

1158
00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:13,970
going to feel stressed because
children represent OK and that's

1159
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:14,670
nothing to do.
It's not.

1160
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,140
I'm not complaining about them,
but people are absent, People

1161
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:21,960
are sick, People miss learning.
So we put so much thought and

1162
00:46:21,970 --> 00:46:25,380
effort into this crowned
timetable where it's like we

1163
00:46:25,390 --> 00:46:28,460
couldn't possibly drop a thing.
Yeah, we can't do it because

1164
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:30,260
everything is so important.
And then the kids off for a

1165
00:46:30,270 --> 00:46:32,700
week.
Yeah, well.

1166
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:34,160
No.
Can we catch them up?

1167
00:46:34,170 --> 00:46:36,300
No, because the timetable is
crammed.

1168
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:37,200
We.
Could we?

1169
00:46:37,210 --> 00:46:38,270
Could.
But then they miss something

1170
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,120
else.
Yeah, they missed.

1171
00:46:39,130 --> 00:46:42,040
Something else, I think we.
Can look at the macro here and

1172
00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:45,640
just call it disruptions, right.
So absence is a huge disruption

1173
00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:49,110
and I think, I do think there's
a whole episode brewing on

1174
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,290
absence because post COVID, the
attitude to making sure children

1175
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:58,570
are in in school.
But not only absence lateness.

1176
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,990
OK, it is.
I can't describe as a teacher

1177
00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:06,050
how valuable the time is.
We've been listening this far.

1178
00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:08,430
You understand how valuable our
time is and how much we cram in

1179
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,250
and how every minute is actually
put in place because we have to

1180
00:47:13,310 --> 00:47:15,330
work towards something.
That's how it is.

1181
00:47:15,340 --> 00:47:19,780
OK, so if every day the child is
coming in at 9:30, yeah, 9:45,

1182
00:47:19,790 --> 00:47:21,640
ten.
The problem with a static

1183
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:24,720
timetable and that point is that
means one thing.

1184
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:28,300
They're always missing half of
the same lesson.

1185
00:47:28,570 --> 00:47:31,140
It's not being spread out.
It's not like, OK, listen,

1186
00:47:31,150 --> 00:47:33,500
you're late for whatever reason,
not here to judge people, not

1187
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:36,480
here to put anything on the
children, especially whatever.

1188
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:38,650
Children are going to be late
sometimes, if they're

1189
00:47:38,660 --> 00:47:40,830
consistently late, there's an
underlying problem.

1190
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,890
We need to get to the bottom of
that.

1191
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,340
Let's try and fix it.
No judgement at all again, but

1192
00:47:44,350 --> 00:47:47,000
it's something we need to try
and sort out because we have a

1193
00:47:47,010 --> 00:47:50,140
static timetable and at the time
you're going to miss half of the

1194
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:52,280
same lesson.
If you're missing half of the

1195
00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:55,860
same lesson 3 * a week, that is
going to massively detriment

1196
00:47:55,870 --> 00:47:59,070
your progress in that subject
and there is literally nothing

1197
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,840
we can do as a school or as
teachers to mitigate that.

1198
00:48:01,890 --> 00:48:04,580
The only thing we can do to
mitigate that would be to take

1199
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:07,920
that child out of a different
subject and try and shift it

1200
00:48:07,930 --> 00:48:10,560
somehow, but then that's
detrimental. 2 subjects.

1201
00:48:10,570 --> 00:48:12,000
It's never the same nightmare,
isn't?

1202
00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:13,750
It happens a lot.
Like, you know, if you're if

1203
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,100
you're not in the teaching
world, you'd be surprised at how

1204
00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:19,250
much this sort of thing happens.
I've had possible classes in the

1205
00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:22,690
past where I'd have like one or
two children who just every

1206
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:24,980
single day just turn up between
anywhere between genuinely

1207
00:48:24,990 --> 00:48:27,680
between 9:00 and 11:00.
Yeah, somewhere in that.

1208
00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:28,910
In that time.
And you just think.

1209
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,390
And I never ever once, like you
said, make it really clear,

1210
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,930
never get cross with these
children.

1211
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:35,690
No, you can't get.
Frustrated, but because I'm

1212
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:37,110
frustrated, I'm like, I want you
to.

1213
00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:40,570
Try not to even show them that
because if like if a nine year

1214
00:48:40,580 --> 00:48:43,850
old is turning up to school an
hour late, I guarantee you it's

1215
00:48:43,860 --> 00:48:46,250
not the nine year old fault.
It might be on the odd occasion

1216
00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:48,210
they've had a Strop in the
morning and their parent comes

1217
00:48:48,220 --> 00:48:49,880
in.
But you know it cause parents

1218
00:48:49,890 --> 00:48:51,940
come in, they go, I'm really
sorry, but they just, God could

1219
00:48:51,950 --> 00:48:53,840
not get out of the door this
morning being a pickle.

1220
00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:57,030
But when it happens three times
a week consistently for months

1221
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,010
or years, it's like, OK, don't
ever get annoyed at that child

1222
00:49:00,020 --> 00:49:02,580
because he's absolutely not
their fault.

1223
00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:05,500
It's not their responsibility to
get to school at nine years old

1224
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:07,120
on time.
So it's a really hard thing to

1225
00:49:07,130 --> 00:49:08,150
do.
You do you get frustrated

1226
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,860
though, because you're thinking
they've come in half of my

1227
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:12,620
lesson again.
They've missed the entire input

1228
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:14,440
again.
I've now got to give them the

1229
00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:17,110
input while everyone else now
has to just wait and do

1230
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,000
something else because I was
going to do something with them.

1231
00:49:19,090 --> 00:49:21,560
It's really frustrating.
And that's just absence.

1232
00:49:21,570 --> 00:49:23,130
And that's just like morning
absence.

1233
00:49:23,140 --> 00:49:26,100
Then you get things like this
doesn't know me a little bit and

1234
00:49:26,110 --> 00:49:28,920
I know I shouldn't get annoyed
because teachers holidays,

1235
00:49:28,930 --> 00:49:33,520
midterm like part half of me is
like, do you know what life is?

1236
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:35,000
Life is too short.
I agree.

1237
00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:37,790
By the way, go and.
Enjoy it, but for me right now

1238
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,230
as a teacher it is really
annoying.

1239
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,060
Though they have now just missed
the whole week and and I and I

1240
00:49:42,070 --> 00:49:43,500
don't have time to catch them
up.

1241
00:49:43,770 --> 00:49:45,550
I'm expecting to catch them up.
There's difference.

1242
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,780
As a professional and as a
human.

1243
00:49:47,070 --> 00:49:50,600
As a human honestly and I don't
know should be saying this is a

1244
00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:53,280
teacher but I I don't care.
Do you know if they go away

1245
00:49:53,290 --> 00:49:55,590
somewhere of their family.
Yeah and it's that like once in

1246
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,010
a lifetime opportunity and they
and they go in enrich themselves

1247
00:49:58,020 --> 00:50:01,700
somewhere else right.
I'm I'm just like have great fun

1248
00:50:01,710 --> 00:50:05,660
and their and their parents save
2 grand by doing it then have a

1249
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:06,160
good.
Time.

1250
00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:07,940
Have a good time.
I loved it and I always make the

1251
00:50:07,950 --> 00:50:09,540
kids when they come back.
I'd never ever.

1252
00:50:09,550 --> 00:50:12,330
I make the point of not being
like holiday in term time.

1253
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:13,690
I always go, you have a nice
time.

1254
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,810
That's really good, right?
We've been doing this work hard.

1255
00:50:15,820 --> 00:50:17,170
Let's crack on.
We're not going to go back

1256
00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:20,200
through this stuff, but you'll
pick it up as we go objectively.

1257
00:50:20,410 --> 00:50:25,180
Objectively, clearly missing a
week of school isn't is is going

1258
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:27,240
to impact their progress on
certain things.

1259
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:28,700
It's going to be harder for us
to catch them.

1260
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:30,760
It's gonna be extra work for us
to catch them up, you know?

1261
00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:32,740
It is just an extra load on our
minds.

1262
00:50:32,750 --> 00:50:34,620
Can I vent?
For one thing that I've had one

1263
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:36,830
time in the past, right?
There's one experience.

1264
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,260
This is the only time I've ever
got annoyed at an actual midterm

1265
00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:45,180
holiday, because when they met
When holiday For two weeks.

1266
00:50:45,450 --> 00:50:46,880
In the middle.
Of term I would.

1267
00:50:46,890 --> 00:50:49,440
Argue two weeks, by the way, is
much different to one week,

1268
00:50:49,450 --> 00:50:50,180
yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

1269
00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:52,230
Two weeks big.
That's like, that's like double

1270
00:50:52,290 --> 00:50:54,730
it's it's almost that's like
triple wow.

1271
00:50:55,050 --> 00:50:57,340
And when they came back and
didn't have a problem with it, I

1272
00:50:57,350 --> 00:51:00,470
was just a bit like, it's a bit
annoying for me, but fine,

1273
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,980
whatever.
You've been on holiday.

1274
00:51:02,330 --> 00:51:07,880
It wasn't until I got a formal
complaint written in because I

1275
00:51:08,070 --> 00:51:10,750
hadn't.
We did some fun stuff in that

1276
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,250
two weeks and I hadn't, like,
planned ahead to reserve some of

1277
00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:18,180
the fun thing for this
particular child like that in

1278
00:51:18,190 --> 00:51:20,730
like, retrospect, right.
I don't want to go too much.

1279
00:51:20,910 --> 00:51:23,480
Rocket, you mean?
So you did something really fun.

1280
00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:26,640
I did something nice whilst
they're whilst there cables off.

1281
00:51:26,730 --> 00:51:29,080
Yeah, and.
Then, yeah, the parents had

1282
00:51:29,090 --> 00:51:32,820
expected me for when they got
back to have reserved this

1283
00:51:32,830 --> 00:51:34,370
thing.
So they got to retrospectively

1284
00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:39,190
do the fun thing as well, right.
I I honestly, I had to like, I

1285
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,360
had to remove without, you know.
Yeah.

1286
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:43,520
And I'm just horrible.
Yeah.

1287
00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:45,280
Yeah.
So I was like, I can't speak to

1288
00:51:45,290 --> 00:51:47,320
this person because I would just
be like, what are you talking

1289
00:51:47,330 --> 00:51:49,530
about?
You took, you chose to take your

1290
00:51:49,540 --> 00:51:52,420
child out of time and out of
school in term time.

1291
00:51:52,430 --> 00:51:53,840
You missed the stuff in term
time.

1292
00:51:53,850 --> 00:51:55,520
I'm not.
That's not my problem.

1293
00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:57,190
So.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna save you

1294
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,390
here from sound of the grumpy
old man, because if the child

1295
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,000
was sick, what would your
response be?

1296
00:52:02,550 --> 00:52:04,030
Then they were off.
They're tough.

1297
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,100
They missed it.
I don't know.

1298
00:52:05,110 --> 00:52:06,420
I just think but would.
It be.

1299
00:52:06,430 --> 00:52:08,700
Would it be as angry?
No, not as angry.

1300
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:10,810
That's why I guess not as angry
if they've gone on the way in a

1301
00:52:10,820 --> 00:52:12,930
lovely all expenses paid 2 week
holiday somewhere.

1302
00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:14,510
Yeah.
And they didn't get an ice lolly

1303
00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:16,060
in the afternoon.
Yeah, yeah.

1304
00:52:16,070 --> 00:52:16,990
Yeah, OK.
Yeah.

1305
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,540
No, I think that's justifiable,
though.

1306
00:52:18,550 --> 00:52:20,120
They were just sick.
I'd feel bad for them.

1307
00:52:20,130 --> 00:52:21,270
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Appalling.

1308
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,320
And they didn't want to lose it.
That's my point.

1309
00:52:23,330 --> 00:52:25,210
You wouldn't be angry, but like
ohh, that is good.

1310
00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:27,250
You you've got no control over
the fact you were ill.

1311
00:52:27,260 --> 00:52:29,390
You didn't go on the holiday.
So you know what?

1312
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,180
Maybe I'll try and get this
thing in place for you.

1313
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:33,970
I'll try and do this instead.
You wouldn't necessarily still

1314
00:52:34,030 --> 00:52:36,050
you because you wouldn't know
the real you wouldn't move a

1315
00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:38,790
whole day to another thing.
That's when they're ill.

1316
00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:40,660
You'd feel bad for me.
Like, I'm sorry, mate, Let's try

1317
00:52:40,670 --> 00:52:42,850
this instead.
Yeah, depending on holiday, You

1318
00:52:42,860 --> 00:52:45,260
know, for a formal complaint.
Guys I know.

1319
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:49,320
You're so annoyed at that, Max.
So I guess the one other thing I

1320
00:52:49,330 --> 00:52:51,310
want to talk about, and I hope
lots of teachers feel on the

1321
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,480
same boat and I understand the
importance of this.

1322
00:52:53,490 --> 00:52:55,790
And this has happened in every
school I've worked at.

1323
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,580
This has happened in every
school of people I've talked to

1324
00:52:58,750 --> 00:53:02,080
is, and it's linked to the
timetable.

1325
00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:05,080
Maybe not being fit for purpose
is that even though we're doing

1326
00:53:05,090 --> 00:53:08,300
English and Maths everyday,
there are going to be children

1327
00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:11,650
who are on the cusp of
something, a grade that they

1328
00:53:11,660 --> 00:53:14,780
need to try and push to, for our
for data to look good or for

1329
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:17,770
their progress from Key Stage 1
to be where it should be based

1330
00:53:17,780 --> 00:53:19,820
on, again, the government's
overlooking eye and the league

1331
00:53:19,830 --> 00:53:23,340
tables and things like that.
That I I reckon every school in

1332
00:53:23,350 --> 00:53:26,080
the country has interventions
which are extra groups for

1333
00:53:26,090 --> 00:53:28,820
children running outside of
English and maths time,

1334
00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:31,720
obviously because they need
English and maths that go creep

1335
00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:35,660
into afternoon lessons now cards
on the table.

1336
00:53:35,810 --> 00:53:39,600
I would much rather every child
simply receive the whole

1337
00:53:39,610 --> 00:53:42,400
afternoon lesson.
I'd much rather whoever, whoever

1338
00:53:42,410 --> 00:53:46,420
they are, the work that's gone
into differentiating a task or

1339
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:48,800
changing something so that it's
suitable for everyone in your

1340
00:53:48,810 --> 00:53:52,960
class, for them in the afternoon
then to be taken out for half an

1341
00:53:52,970 --> 00:53:55,320
hour to do a group.
Yeah, it doesn't sit right with

1342
00:53:55,330 --> 00:53:58,270
me that they should lose history
time or geography time or

1343
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,470
science time because they didn't
quite cover something in the

1344
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,400
every single day coverage of
English and maths.

1345
00:54:03,410 --> 00:54:05,650
Yeah, where do you sit with
that?

1346
00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:07,670
Because again, that's to do with
the timetable.

1347
00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:10,900
It's is it fit for purpose.
They're not going to reach the

1348
00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:13,440
level that the government have
decided should they miss out on

1349
00:54:13,450 --> 00:54:16,610
their history and I have spent.
Nine years, very passionately

1350
00:54:16,660 --> 00:54:19,490
trying against interventions
genuinely.

1351
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,550
I really, really, really don't
like them.

1352
00:54:21,860 --> 00:54:22,800
I don't like them.
Ever.

1353
00:54:22,810 --> 00:54:24,920
Full stop.
I just don't like them.

1354
00:54:25,070 --> 00:54:27,770
You know if your school has some
magic time where you can run

1355
00:54:27,780 --> 00:54:29,070
them.
So what about?

1356
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,420
What about?
You know, for example, I don't

1357
00:54:32,430 --> 00:54:35,340
know if assemblies happening.
Yeah, so.

1358
00:54:35,350 --> 00:54:38,020
That's to me is like the only
one where it's like, OK, you can

1359
00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:40,740
justify it a bit, eat.
That's still missing something

1360
00:54:40,750 --> 00:54:42,740
that everyone else is getting.
At the end of the day, we just

1361
00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:45,460
don't value assembly generally
in schools as much as like a

1362
00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:47,630
lesson.
So that one I'm like, OK, if

1363
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,710
you're going to do an
intervention, limit it to

1364
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,150
assembly.
So how do kids?

1365
00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:54,550
What's up?
Through quality teaching.

1366
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,540
Just think, honestly, it has to
be free teaching.

1367
00:54:57,130 --> 00:54:58,910
English every single day.
Yeah, we're.

1368
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,590
Doing, Yeah.
So I mean we're doing massage

1369
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,800
every day, every year.
Curriculum basically recaps the

1370
00:55:04,810 --> 00:55:07,170
last year's curriculum and adds
a bit more to it.

1371
00:55:07,790 --> 00:55:10,350
There's just got to be a point
where we say, well they are

1372
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,320
doing 5 hours of that week or
six or seven hours of that week,

1373
00:55:13,570 --> 00:55:15,880
15 minutes intervention, it's
just.

1374
00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:17,780
They do not do that.
Last bit they're doing.

1375
00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:21,010
Six hours of history a term?
Yeah, they're doing 7 hours of

1376
00:55:21,020 --> 00:55:23,030
mass a week.
Should we do some merchant

1377
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,680
master in history?
No, I've.

1378
00:55:24,690 --> 00:55:26,100
Always hated it.
So I've always been very again,

1379
00:55:26,110 --> 00:55:29,160
I've always been very very vocal
as well to help if if RSL will

1380
00:55:29,170 --> 00:55:30,440
listening for like yeah here we
go.

1381
00:55:30,850 --> 00:55:33,610
So can I do I'll say it all the
time like let's stop do let's

1382
00:55:33,620 --> 00:55:35,860
stop doing this.
And I'm usually speaking about

1383
00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:37,130
afternoons.
In fact I'm always speaking

1384
00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:39,340
about the same I hate kids
missing.

1385
00:55:39,350 --> 00:55:42,380
I also from a selfish
perspective and nothing annoys

1386
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:44,990
me more than an adult coming
into my room when I'm halfway

1387
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,200
through an input and I've just
got them all hooked on some

1388
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:48,950
topic they might not have been
that interested in.

1389
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,860
But I've managed to get them
hooked on it and say, well, can

1390
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:53,520
I have so and so, so and so, so
and so and so and so.

1391
00:55:53,710 --> 00:55:55,710
And it's the four children.
You know who it is?

1392
00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:57,420
Yeah.
It's the four children who need

1393
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:59,420
to be in that room the most.
Hence the reason they're in an

1394
00:55:59,430 --> 00:56:00,820
intervention to catch up on
something.

1395
00:56:00,890 --> 00:56:03,230
They find learning harder.
Yeah, please do take them out of

1396
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,580
the end of my input and the
start of the task so that when

1397
00:56:05,590 --> 00:56:07,200
they come back in, they have no
idea what they're doing.

1398
00:56:07,210 --> 00:56:09,220
They're behind.
Yeah, got it.

1399
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:10,700
Annoys me so much.
It's.

1400
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:12,560
Frustrating.
It is frustrating and it's the

1401
00:56:12,570 --> 00:56:14,350
same frustration as when a
child's late.

1402
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,590
We just, it can't be accepted.
If someone sits there and goes,

1403
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,400
yeah, it's it's quite
frustrating when the child comes

1404
00:56:19,410 --> 00:56:21,400
in late or misses, you know,
half an hour or less, isn't it?

1405
00:56:21,450 --> 00:56:23,580
Yeah, it can't.
Then we can't then pretend it's

1406
00:56:23,590 --> 00:56:25,620
not frustrating when a child,
she's half an hour of your

1407
00:56:25,630 --> 00:56:27,900
lesson for a different reason.
It's still frustrating for the

1408
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:30,580
same reason, yeah, only this
time we have complete control

1409
00:56:30,590 --> 00:56:31,420
over it.
Would you take?

1410
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:33,300
A kid out of a maths lesson to
an English intervention?

1411
00:56:33,310 --> 00:56:35,220
Of course you would.
Push wouldn't.

1412
00:56:35,230 --> 00:56:38,550
So, so another, you know, side
to this coin is OK, we're just

1413
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,600
teaching the kids that these
subjects are just not important.

1414
00:56:40,610 --> 00:56:41,850
Yeah, history.
Not important.

1415
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:43,500
Go out and do some maths.
Yeah, so.

1416
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,830
You know, in the past I've ran
intervention groups.

1417
00:56:45,980 --> 00:56:47,550
It's my job.
I've been asked to run

1418
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,690
intervention groups.
Therefore I've made them really

1419
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:51,820
useful.
They have been maths, sometimes

1420
00:56:51,830 --> 00:56:52,960
been English as well, then
English.

1421
00:56:52,970 --> 00:56:55,730
Writing interventions have done
reading interventions, but

1422
00:56:55,740 --> 00:56:57,150
mostly I've done maths
interventions.

1423
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,680
Geography, never done geography
intervention, never done History

1424
00:56:59,690 --> 00:57:02,110
intervention, never happened.
I'm going to take a child out of

1425
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,610
masks.
Didn't know who Julius Caesar

1426
00:57:03,620 --> 00:57:04,250
was.
Yeah.

1427
00:57:04,260 --> 00:57:06,100
You know, I mean, however, I
will take a child out of

1428
00:57:06,110 --> 00:57:08,920
geography because they didn't
know how to bridge 10 past 98.

1429
00:57:08,990 --> 00:57:10,510
Yeah, you know.
And you might listen to this and

1430
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,180
agree, you might be like ohh
yeah, maths, English are

1431
00:57:12,190 --> 00:57:12,860
important.
Yeah.

1432
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:15,380
And and you know what, I kind of
agree to that as well.

1433
00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:17,620
But I don't.
I just hate the whole double

1434
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:20,970
mindset of we all unanimously
agree that Mason things are the

1435
00:57:20,980 --> 00:57:22,510
most important.
They are just really important.

1436
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,080
But that's already.
Built into the timetable

1437
00:57:24,090 --> 00:57:26,200
already.
But also you have to tell the

1438
00:57:26,210 --> 00:57:27,980
children and make it really
clear that every subject is

1439
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:30,310
equally valuable.
And it's like, well, what we

1440
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,750
going what do you want?
Do you want me to tell the do

1441
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,120
you want me to pretend that the
children, that these other

1442
00:57:35,130 --> 00:57:37,300
subjects are just as important,
like that so much work into

1443
00:57:37,310 --> 00:57:38,960
them, are all becoming
specialists in geography and

1444
00:57:38,970 --> 00:57:43,010
history but also not we all
secretly behind the scenes.

1445
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:44,950
But yeah, they're not that are
they We'll take them out all the

1446
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,000
time and do these other things
or I don't want.

1447
00:57:47,010 --> 00:57:48,740
What are we trying to get across
to the kids.

1448
00:57:48,750 --> 00:57:49,960
I don't understand.
I.

1449
00:57:49,970 --> 00:57:53,420
Think again.
This is like a personal thing,

1450
00:57:53,530 --> 00:57:54,920
isn't it?
This is one of those personal

1451
00:57:54,930 --> 00:57:56,640
things where this is our
personal opinion.

1452
00:57:57,290 --> 00:57:59,020
We're teachers.
We still do intervention groups,

1453
00:57:59,030 --> 00:58:01,200
is the point I'm trying to make.
Is still gonna do?

1454
00:58:01,410 --> 00:58:03,200
Yeah, of course we are.
We're still gonna make them

1455
00:58:03,210 --> 00:58:04,310
useful.
We're still gonna make sure

1456
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,370
children in those groups make
more progress like that.

1457
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:07,630
Of course that's going to
happen.

1458
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,730
But it's just at what cost?
And the cost is that they're,

1459
00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:13,590
you know, I've done an
intervention group before where

1460
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,900
it's one of the groups has had
to been during their PS during

1461
00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:18,810
their PE slot.
Yeah, yeah.

1462
00:58:18,820 --> 00:58:22,170
And it's like, cool.
I think that's nearly more

1463
00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:24,150
important than anything.
Yeah, they're staying active and

1464
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,190
fit.
So I might actually be taking

1465
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,470
them out the only physical
activity they'll do all week,

1466
00:58:30,020 --> 00:58:31,320
but that sounds horrendous to
me, right?

1467
00:58:31,330 --> 00:58:33,600
That that's obviously I'm like
that's awful.

1468
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:36,560
And I also, you've got to feel
that way for history.

1469
00:58:36,730 --> 00:58:39,720
They only get to do history for
like you know, a certain amount

1470
00:58:39,730 --> 00:58:41,520
of time all year.
Yeah.

1471
00:58:41,530 --> 00:58:43,000
It's much less than maths and
English.

1472
00:58:43,010 --> 00:58:45,000
Yeah.
So you know the the impact is

1473
00:58:45,010 --> 00:58:47,340
greater on the subject they're
missing than the impact is on

1474
00:58:47,350 --> 00:58:49,360
the subject they're getting.
So they're going to have more of

1475
00:58:49,370 --> 00:58:52,020
a detrimental impact on what
they've missed in history than

1476
00:58:52,070 --> 00:58:53,560
the positive impact will be for
mass.

1477
00:58:53,570 --> 00:58:56,000
Because guess what, they've got
master tomorrow and tomorrow and

1478
00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:57,540
tomorrow and tomorrow and
tomorrow.

1479
00:58:57,590 --> 00:59:00,960
So it doesn't add up to me and I
think, I think we're both quite

1480
00:59:00,970 --> 00:59:03,590
passionate about.
I'd love it for it to be a thing

1481
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,630
of the past and he's quality
first teaching.

1482
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,490
It's like how your children
gonna make progress.

1483
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,330
Really good teaching in the
morning.

1484
00:59:10,340 --> 00:59:11,800
Yeah, one.
Big thing I kind of want to do a

1485
00:59:11,810 --> 00:59:14,950
poll on this maybe the episode
poll very specific though.

1486
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,230
So it's it's to people that
taught you 6 and it's about Sats

1487
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:23,170
boosters because I think that's
a great poll narrow down like I

1488
00:59:23,180 --> 00:59:25,110
actually just wanna know because
I don't want to I was going to

1489
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,880
start talking about this is
every school does it.

1490
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:28,020
Yeah but I don't know if they
do.

1491
00:59:28,030 --> 00:59:31,050
I just know that schools high
school circle by teachers.

1492
00:59:31,060 --> 00:59:33,700
Every school has done it Yeah so
quite a common thing.

1493
00:59:33,710 --> 00:59:35,940
I hate this by the way I am so
anti this.

1494
00:59:35,950 --> 00:59:38,780
I really really really hate it.
A very common thing to do in

1495
00:59:38,790 --> 00:59:41,580
year six is before the SATS
exams, that big test that the

1496
00:59:41,590 --> 00:59:45,570
school is judged on and and the
kids, you know, whatever is SATS

1497
00:59:45,580 --> 00:59:47,430
booster.
So it'll be like the weeks or

1498
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,160
even the terms.
In some schools I do it for like

1499
00:59:49,170 --> 00:59:51,690
2-3 terms leading up to it.
There will be extra

1500
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:54,250
interventions in place just to
like really get kids ready for

1501
00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:56,330
their Sats exams.
And again, they'll typically

1502
00:59:56,340 --> 00:59:58,020
take place in the afternoon
because when else are you going

1503
00:59:58,030 --> 00:59:59,800
to do it?
I really don't like it for the

1504
00:59:59,810 --> 01:00:00,910
same reasons.
Intervention.

1505
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,790
It's like interventions on
steroids.

1506
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,330
It's just all the time.
But I want to know before I

1507
01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:07,810
before I ramble on about it.
Does your school do it?

1508
01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:09,830
You don't have to be a year six
teacher I guess, to know this

1509
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,610
but if you work in a school do
you do SATS boosters?

1510
01:00:12,620 --> 01:00:14,910
And if you want to tell us your
opinion on it, I'd love to hear

1511
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,500
it.
Before I start rambling on it

1512
01:00:16,570 --> 01:00:18,740
about it, maybe in another
episode on Sats or something.

1513
01:00:18,750 --> 01:00:20,010
You.
Know the ultimate version of

1514
01:00:20,020 --> 01:00:22,740
that, by the way, is some
children get invited back in

1515
01:00:22,750 --> 01:00:24,420
during half term?
Ohh yeah.

1516
01:00:24,430 --> 01:00:25,500
Yeah, to into.
School to do.

1517
01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:28,420
But yeah, it's just like, OK,
who is that for at least?

1518
01:00:28,430 --> 01:00:30,400
It's not in geography time,
yeah.

1519
01:00:30,410 --> 01:00:31,300
It's true.
It's just.

1520
01:00:31,310 --> 01:00:33,140
In their free time, where they
have to relax and let their

1521
01:00:33,150 --> 01:00:35,580
brain settle so they can learn
more, we'll take that way, I

1522
01:00:35,590 --> 01:00:36,780
suppose.
The last thing then about

1523
01:00:36,790 --> 01:00:39,810
timetables is the last thing I
wanted to come on because it's a

1524
01:00:39,820 --> 01:00:41,810
big again, it's a big hot topic
at the minute and they seem to

1525
01:00:41,820 --> 01:00:44,500
be a dying breed specialist
teachers.

1526
01:00:45,260 --> 01:00:50,450
So in terms of the timetable we
talked about is the timetable

1527
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:52,470
fit for purpose?
Well do you know what?

1528
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:57,750
As a human being who did a PGCE
year and two placements and that

1529
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,270
was my training, it would be
absolutely ridiculous for anyone

1530
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,170
to assume that I am the best
possible geography teacher.

1531
01:01:06,220 --> 01:01:08,370
I'm the best possible music.
I'm pretty sure your.

1532
01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:10,580
PC was maths specialist, Math
specialist.

1533
01:01:10,590 --> 01:01:11,590
You're special.
I am the.

1534
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,390
Best possible math teacher.
I'm not even that.

1535
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,330
That's the point.
I've done math specialism.

1536
01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:18,610
I'm not even the best, It's my
favourite subject.

1537
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,110
I've probably the best subject
if I'm being perfectly honest.

1538
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,130
As a teacher, you can reflect on
what you think your best subject

1539
01:01:23,140 --> 01:01:25,890
is to teach maths is.
I understand the curriculum, I

1540
01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:28,250
understand the, the, the, the
points we've got to get to.

1541
01:01:28,340 --> 01:01:30,090
I feel very, very confident
teaching maths.

1542
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:32,410
I think I could teach maths
without any resources.

1543
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:34,150
I really do.
At this point I would say I'm at

1544
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,670
that point of teaching maths now
where I could walk into a room

1545
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,970
every day.
No, but here's my point.

1546
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,100
But here's my point.
That is 112th of the curriculum.

1547
01:01:43,110 --> 01:01:45,130
Do you feel like that?
Do I feel like English?

1548
01:01:45,180 --> 01:01:47,360
No, I feel like I'm a good
English teacher.

1549
01:01:47,420 --> 01:01:51,480
Do I feel that with history?
No, absolutely not.

1550
01:01:51,490 --> 01:01:52,780
Do I feel like music?
No.

1551
01:01:52,850 --> 01:01:55,820
Do I feel like that with PE?
No, no, no, No other subject do

1552
01:01:55,830 --> 01:01:58,600
I feel that close to.
However, my timetable is I've

1553
01:01:58,610 --> 01:02:01,260
got to teach everything and I've
got to teach at a really high

1554
01:02:01,270 --> 01:02:04,110
level.
And as a culture in school we

1555
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,080
have this idea of specialist
teachers, right?

1556
01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:08,490
But very, very much so.
And I'd be interested to hear

1557
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:11,270
other people think.
I think specialist teaching is

1558
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,280
limited to three subjects.
PE, music, modern foreign

1559
01:02:15,290 --> 01:02:17,490
languages.
If you are a specialist teacher

1560
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:19,950
in a primary school, I reckon
it's 99%.

1561
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:25,750
You're one of those 3.
OK Why then is it that we

1562
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:31,310
pretend that children need a
specialist in music in PE, in

1563
01:02:31,370 --> 01:02:33,770
modern foreign languages but not
history?

1564
01:02:33,820 --> 01:02:35,410
No, no, that can be the teacher,
of course.

1565
01:02:35,420 --> 01:02:36,230
Not.
Geography.

1566
01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:40,030
ICGT might be another specialist
teacher, but in a lot of schools

1567
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,130
the teachers teach the ICT.
That is such a niche that you

1568
01:02:44,140 --> 01:02:49,110
can't possibly be an expert.
And why the coding Exactly?

1569
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,480
So I guess the point is, why
don't we have more specialist

1570
01:02:53,490 --> 01:02:56,220
teachers?
Why don't we as teaching staff

1571
01:02:56,270 --> 01:02:58,330
if we're looking at the
timetable as a teacher's point

1572
01:02:58,340 --> 01:02:59,020
of view?
Hmm.

1573
01:02:59,060 --> 01:03:01,160
Why isn't my timetable maths all
morning?

1574
01:03:01,250 --> 01:03:02,680
Why?
Why don't I teach maths to more

1575
01:03:02,690 --> 01:03:04,710
than one class?
I'm better at teaching maths

1576
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,720
than other subjects.
Why aren't I then in a primary

1577
01:03:07,730 --> 01:03:09,140
school?
It's happened in secondary

1578
01:03:09,150 --> 01:03:10,360
school.
You have specialist teachers?

1579
01:03:10,450 --> 01:03:12,160
One in a primary school?
Then do I not have?

1580
01:03:12,170 --> 01:03:13,860
Why don't I have four math
classes instead of one?

1581
01:03:13,930 --> 01:03:15,670
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why doesn't someone else have 4

1582
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,300
history classes instead of the
closest?

1583
01:03:17,310 --> 01:03:20,350
Example I guess would be I'm a
year six teacher so I have to

1584
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,610
teach every single subject year
six level.

1585
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,130
But in one year's time every
single one of those subjects

1586
01:03:27,140 --> 01:03:28,910
will be taught by a specialist
teacher and it would be

1587
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,650
ludicrous for the idea of a year
seven teacher teaching all

1588
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,170
teaching every single one
wouldn't.

1589
01:03:33,180 --> 01:03:34,610
So Can you imagine a secondary
school teacher?

1590
01:03:34,620 --> 01:03:36,980
It was mainly based in year
seven and they're like right

1591
01:03:36,990 --> 01:03:39,620
this week you've got to do maths
and English, sorry, you've got

1592
01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:41,060
to do both.
I know you're the other maths

1593
01:03:41,070 --> 01:03:42,310
teacher, but would you mind
covering this?

1594
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,910
All right.
You've also got to do geography,

1595
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,330
history, PE and RE and they are
doing French at the moment and

1596
01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:49,850
planet.
And planet and planet, please,

1597
01:03:49,860 --> 01:03:51,870
and understand the curriculum.
What?

1598
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,290
I'm one year away from that.
Like what?

1599
01:03:53,300 --> 01:03:55,210
What are we talking is mental.
This is mad.

1600
01:03:55,740 --> 01:03:59,280
I mean we've we've talked about
in the previous episode when we

1601
01:03:59,290 --> 01:04:04,090
talked about Ofsted, we did talk
about maybe why it's become so

1602
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:07,990
pressurised now, like you've got
to be so specialised in every

1603
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,510
single subject, whereas before
it was a little bit like maybe

1604
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,950
it was a bit more accepting of
the reality.

1605
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,480
If you're not actually going to
be though, are you.

1606
01:04:13,490 --> 01:04:15,870
So let's just do like a
foundation in these subjects.

1607
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,020
But your question.
So what was your question?

1608
01:04:20,030 --> 01:04:21,150
What we can do about it?
Well.

1609
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,170
My my point that I was making
with specialist teachers is we

1610
01:04:24,180 --> 01:04:26,130
we pretend that we need them for
these subjects.

1611
01:04:26,140 --> 01:04:26,970
Yeah.
Or.

1612
01:04:26,980 --> 01:04:28,530
Or We do need them for these
subjects.

1613
01:04:28,540 --> 01:04:29,450
Even.
I don't even think.

1614
01:04:29,460 --> 01:04:32,120
I think I'm not pretending.
They're much better at doing it.

1615
01:04:32,170 --> 01:04:32,870
So why?
Why?

1616
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,140
Therefore, why don't we have
specialist teachers won't have

1617
01:04:35,150 --> 01:04:37,170
that mindset with all of the
curriculum.

1618
01:04:37,220 --> 01:04:39,200
Why does it stop at modern
foreign languages?

1619
01:04:39,210 --> 01:04:40,450
Do you know it's?
The same reason.

1620
01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:42,520
It's the same reason that if you
if you walk into a school,

1621
01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:44,990
there's an 80% chance you'll
trip over a carpet that was put

1622
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,250
down in 1995.
There's no money.

1623
01:04:48,330 --> 01:04:50,060
There's no there's no money, is
there?

1624
01:04:50,070 --> 01:04:51,740
Yeah, well, that's.
How They save money, right?

1625
01:04:51,830 --> 01:04:53,920
Yeah.
They say, OK, we're gonna get

1626
01:04:53,930 --> 01:04:56,750
rid of the specialist teacher.
So the point of being at this

1627
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,960
point, we're not moving towards
more specialist teachers, we're

1628
01:04:58,970 --> 01:05:00,970
moving towards no specialist
teachers.

1629
01:05:01,010 --> 01:05:02,620
So we're gonna save money.
So you have to pay the

1630
01:05:02,630 --> 01:05:05,270
specialist to come anymore.
But you have to teach PE.

1631
01:05:05,590 --> 01:05:07,030
Stressful.
What are the consequences of

1632
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,440
that stress?
It is so.

1633
01:05:08,450 --> 01:05:11,130
Stressful and I know you're
going to make a point a minute

1634
01:05:11,140 --> 01:05:14,960
about what you can do about it,
but it is horribly stressful.

1635
01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:19,330
You just if you take that
seriously, if you take your role

1636
01:05:19,340 --> 01:05:21,740
really, really seriously, then
you're going to burnout.

1637
01:05:21,810 --> 01:05:24,540
Yeah, because you just can't be.
You need to get over it.

1638
01:05:24,550 --> 01:05:26,960
You can't be.
You genuinely can't be a

1639
01:05:26,970 --> 01:05:28,730
specialist, like an actual
specialist.

1640
01:05:28,740 --> 01:05:31,000
You can be good.
You can be a good geography

1641
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:32,300
teacher.
I've taught this quickly, five

1642
01:05:32,310 --> 01:05:33,540
Times Now.
I've been the same year.

1643
01:05:33,550 --> 01:05:37,140
I'm really good at teaching this
unit now, but you're not.

1644
01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:39,200
You're not going to be a
specialist in geography and

1645
01:05:39,210 --> 01:05:41,620
history teaching.
It for six hours every time.

1646
01:05:41,630 --> 01:05:43,110
Yeah, it's.
Just not going to happen and you

1647
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,580
just kind of need to not let
that impact you in the way that

1648
01:05:46,590 --> 01:05:48,130
it would if you really took that
seriously.

1649
01:05:48,140 --> 01:05:49,610
Well, because.
The point being, if you get rid

1650
01:05:49,620 --> 01:05:52,330
of a teacher, a specialist
teacher, and you pass it on to a

1651
01:05:52,340 --> 01:05:55,610
classroom teacher, yeah, I'm not
dissing as classroom teachers

1652
01:05:55,620 --> 01:05:57,350
whatsoever.
We've got unbelievable skills.

1653
01:05:57,580 --> 01:06:00,030
But the children won't be
getting as good a curriculum.

1654
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,670
They won't be getting as good in
the cosmos.

1655
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,910
So we have a specialist teacher,
music in our school, Yeah,

1656
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,870
fantastic.
If that stopped.

1657
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,920
And I then had to teach.
In fact, no, I do teach the

1658
01:06:08,930 --> 01:06:10,070
music.
Never mind.

1659
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,700
No, no.
But they have.

1660
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,310
They have groups where they
teach it, they take assembly,

1661
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,280
singer, assembly.
They have different year groups

1662
01:06:16,290 --> 01:06:17,880
where they teach, if they do
teach.

1663
01:06:17,890 --> 01:06:20,500
And so everyone in year three
and four, yeah, gets music

1664
01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:22,230
intervention and the.
Specialist gives me all the

1665
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,150
planning things like that, so I
might do something but let's

1666
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,030
think more one way.
Actually I don't teach any of

1667
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,690
it.
So something like modern foreign

1668
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:30,110
do do more.
So we have, we have a teacher

1669
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,420
who do that, right.
If that suddenly fell on me, it

1670
01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:34,700
just wouldn't be as good.
No.

1671
01:06:35,090 --> 01:06:36,680
And that's not because I can't
be bothered.

1672
01:06:36,690 --> 01:06:39,300
I just, I'm not.
I'm not a specialist in it.

1673
01:06:39,350 --> 01:06:42,590
It would be insulting to the
specialist teachers out there

1674
01:06:42,650 --> 01:06:44,620
for me to say, yeah, I'd
probably be as good.

1675
01:06:44,850 --> 01:06:47,430
Yeah, all of them.
All of these, of course.

1676
01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:50,440
And then the.
Specialist knows every Tuesday.

1677
01:06:50,490 --> 01:06:54,250
I've got Spanish with year three
and I can plan that curriculum

1678
01:06:54,260 --> 01:06:56,340
out.
That's really cognitive load is

1679
01:06:56,350 --> 01:07:00,340
less, they've got more to do.
But it's all within Spanish.

1680
01:07:00,620 --> 01:07:02,700
It's all within French.
It's all within, you know, it's

1681
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:05,260
it's all within a certain
subject which they know really

1682
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:06,020
well.
But back to your.

1683
01:07:06,030 --> 01:07:07,160
Question.
I do think it's budget.

1684
01:07:07,210 --> 01:07:09,800
I honestly, I I genuinely think
if if there was just the money

1685
01:07:09,810 --> 01:07:11,720
there, yeah, I don't think I
had, teacher would think twice

1686
01:07:11,730 --> 01:07:12,820
about it.
But yeah, of course we got the

1687
01:07:12,830 --> 01:07:13,370
money.
Let's get it.

1688
01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:14,560
Let's get in these.
OK, but why?

1689
01:07:14,570 --> 01:07:16,300
Don't we?
Why do we stop there?

1690
01:07:16,350 --> 01:07:19,310
And that's my point.
There will be nothing against me

1691
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,640
teaching maths all morning and
someone else teaching English,

1692
01:07:21,650 --> 01:07:23,640
or more so like a.
Secondary school setup almost.

1693
01:07:23,650 --> 01:07:26,020
In terms of English and maths,
like you know, if you have

1694
01:07:26,030 --> 01:07:28,940
teachers who are more specialist
and it would take less of a

1695
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:33,040
cognitive load, are we descaling
them or is it simply just not

1696
01:07:33,110 --> 01:07:34,670
practical?
Or is it just against the

1697
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:35,650
culture?
It's a big.

1698
01:07:35,660 --> 01:07:37,230
Question isn't it?
Because it's probably a lot.

1699
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,930
You know we probably do a whole
episode on there.

1700
01:07:39,380 --> 01:07:41,190
Should we teach like secondary
schools?

1701
01:07:41,230 --> 01:07:44,190
Because I reckon we could really
go dive down into maybe it's

1702
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,630
because there's more nurturing
in primary school and actually

1703
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,680
building those relationships
with your class and having them

1704
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:51,870
more often rather than like a a
form group that go off all day

1705
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,570
but if you.
Set.

1706
01:07:52,580 --> 01:07:55,190
You already did that, yeah?
True heart like half the time.

1707
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,750
Usually if you set the
afternoons, you still have your.

1708
01:07:58,290 --> 01:07:59,590
Afternoon.
You still have your class.

1709
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,140
I mean mornings staff are
spitting half half of them,

1710
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,440
yeah.
For example, one teacher will

1711
01:08:05,450 --> 01:08:08,660
teach year 3 English and year 4
English, yeah.

1712
01:08:08,670 --> 01:08:11,800
And then I would teach year
three-year 4 maths and year 3

1713
01:08:11,810 --> 01:08:12,700
maths.
So we.

1714
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:14,360
I I've posted this before and
I've seen it.

1715
01:08:14,370 --> 01:08:16,960
I have seen it happen in schools
very rarely and I always find it

1716
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:19,100
weird the counter argument that
the only counter argument I've

1717
01:08:19,109 --> 01:08:22,080
ever heard to this is ohh no ID
skills teachers.

1718
01:08:22,689 --> 01:08:24,760
Does it?
How de skilled is apology year

1719
01:08:24,770 --> 01:08:25,920
10 teacher?
Yeah.

1720
01:08:25,970 --> 01:08:28,580
Yeah, I think finally.
Skilled because they don't know

1721
01:08:28,590 --> 01:08:31,460
how to teach physics.
And no, yeah, of course they're

1722
01:08:31,470 --> 01:08:33,200
they're incredibly skilled at
what they do.

1723
01:08:33,450 --> 01:08:34,950
Look at what they're doing.
The point?

1724
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,640
That those people are making is
that kind of wide proof it's

1725
01:08:37,649 --> 01:08:40,520
future if like realistically
most schools don't do that.

1726
01:08:40,529 --> 01:08:45,010
So if we were gonna be the one
edgy school that you only teach

1727
01:08:45,020 --> 01:08:47,370
maths and someone else only
teaches English, if you need a

1728
01:08:47,380 --> 01:08:49,819
new job in three years time,
that's what they mean by

1729
01:08:49,830 --> 01:08:51,149
deskilled.
It's like you're going to get

1730
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,450
employed now and.
That's that's a really good

1731
01:08:53,460 --> 01:08:53,930
point.
It's.

1732
01:08:53,939 --> 01:08:55,250
Realistic, isn't it?
But again, I think.

1733
01:08:55,260 --> 01:08:57,950
It would have to come down to
that point, the choice of the

1734
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,189
teacher.
I'd be making that choice to go

1735
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,910
step into that role, knowing
that fact.

1736
01:09:01,979 --> 01:09:04,100
Yeah.
Whereas if the school use that,

1737
01:09:04,109 --> 01:09:05,450
that's their score.
It's irrelevant.

1738
01:09:05,460 --> 01:09:07,569
Other schools are doing, yeah,
but you know, you would have to.

1739
01:09:07,580 --> 01:09:10,270
It might be harder to recruit
people for that reason, but as

1740
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:12,810
as a teacher, I think I'd really
consider that actually it's.

1741
01:09:12,819 --> 01:09:13,790
Good.
You made a really good point

1742
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,069
there.
There's other situations where

1743
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,770
it is acceptable and the
outcomes are the same.

1744
01:09:16,779 --> 01:09:19,649
For example, our literal jobs
were part time job shared.

1745
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,660
So someone could say the things
you don't do on Thursday and

1746
01:09:22,670 --> 01:09:25,090
Friday, you're being deskilled
and it's like no one's ever.

1747
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:26,569
Said that to me.
But it could be, yeah, no.

1748
01:09:26,580 --> 01:09:27,810
But that's what I'm saying to
you.

1749
01:09:27,819 --> 01:09:30,399
I agree, and it's harder.
To get we walked into this

1750
01:09:30,410 --> 01:09:32,979
knowing that it would be
extremely hard now and it is for

1751
01:09:32,990 --> 01:09:35,979
us to go and get another job We
wouldn't be able to now just go

1752
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:37,960
on on on look for job
advertisement.

1753
01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:39,600
Ohh, yeah, I'll go and do that
other one that's a job share

1754
01:09:39,609 --> 01:09:41,600
Monday to Wednesday, but
specifically this thing that I

1755
01:09:41,609 --> 01:09:43,939
have now do and because we.
Don't teach Fridays, I'm really

1756
01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:48,200
bad at non uniform days now.
I'm so good at Bank Holiday

1757
01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:51,060
Monday, honestly.
I'm so sorry.

1758
01:09:51,069 --> 01:09:54,300
Job shares, Sorry we get all the
bank holidays, but yeah, I think

1759
01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:56,340
you know, OK.
In general that's a great chat.

1760
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:59,340
Round it all off.
Is the primary school term

1761
01:09:59,350 --> 01:10:02,540
timetable fit for purpose?
Again, yes.

1762
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:04,660
No.
It.

1763
01:10:04,670 --> 01:10:07,040
It's never going to be fit for
purpose because it's never going

1764
01:10:07,050 --> 01:10:09,340
to be able to actually deliver
on what it's designed to

1765
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:11,380
deliver, yeah.
However, depending on what your

1766
01:10:11,390 --> 01:10:13,870
school's purpose is, it can be
fit for purpose.

1767
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,540
We do what the?
Government's resolution to this

1768
01:10:15,550 --> 01:10:16,650
20 years ago.
Yeah.

1769
01:10:16,660 --> 01:10:18,480
Remember when they talk to us
and was like, oh please, no,

1770
01:10:18,490 --> 01:10:19,780
they're gonna extend the school
day.

1771
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:21,310
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, No.

1772
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:23,400
No, no, no, no, no, no, please
don't listen that.

1773
01:10:23,410 --> 01:10:24,600
Is.
We can't get into that.

1774
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:28,820
Another time, we're gonna talk
about why more isn't always

1775
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:32,680
better.
More lessons does not equal

1776
01:10:32,730 --> 01:10:33,560
more.
Money.

1777
01:10:33,630 --> 01:10:36,070
Not always.
Better don't need it.

1778
01:10:36,740 --> 01:10:38,610
Backwards, right.
So we pay.

1779
01:10:38,620 --> 01:10:40,900
Jingle and then finish off with
a little game very quick.

1780
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,950
Yeah.
OK, quick game.

1781
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,150
Hayden, want to make this thing.
I want to play games every week.

1782
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,340
However, we did really like last
game so it's going to stay the

1783
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:52,260
same with each prepared A
category.

1784
01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:54,300
OK, so for example anyone
listening at home didn't listen

1785
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:56,110
last week.
This game is called Lies.

1786
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,500
You may have seen on Sky Sports
they do this all the time.

1787
01:10:58,510 --> 01:10:59,510
Yeah, this is where I've got it
from.

1788
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,810
I've watched it before.
It's a very simple game where

1789
01:11:02,820 --> 01:11:05,320
there's a category, it might be
colours.

1790
01:11:05,390 --> 01:11:08,330
Hayden and I go backwards and
forwards bidding how many we

1791
01:11:08,340 --> 01:11:10,180
think we can answer in 30
seconds.

1792
01:11:10,190 --> 01:11:11,550
So we need a timer up.
Yeah.

1793
01:11:11,630 --> 01:11:13,460
So how many we can name in 30
seconds?

1794
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,320
The key part here is that it's
only 30 seconds because last

1795
01:11:16,330 --> 01:11:19,390
time Hayden's first bid, it's a
bidding process.

1796
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,150
By the way, there's no need to
go in high because we can just

1797
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,370
bid against each other.
I asked him how many things in

1798
01:11:23,380 --> 01:11:26,730
the classroom can you name?
And his first bid was 25.

1799
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,960
Now could you name 25 things in
the classroom?

1800
01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:31,550
Yes, of course you could, But
can you do 30 seconds?

1801
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,470
Probably not.
So I think we've learned a

1802
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:35,600
lesson because we went really
low, really high last time.

1803
01:11:35,610 --> 01:11:37,400
What happens?
When we keep bidding, how does

1804
01:11:37,410 --> 01:11:38,590
it end?
So, whoever.

1805
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:43,230
If for example, if you say you
can name 14 if I think you can,

1806
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,290
I've got a bit of something I
reckon did 14, I'll go 15.

1807
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,510
Hayden goes, haha, I was waiting
for him to say 15, No you can't.

1808
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:50,630
You call me a liar.
Yeah.

1809
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,770
So as soon as you think someone
is strategic, basically if you

1810
01:11:53,780 --> 01:11:55,230
name them all, you get a point,
Yeah.

1811
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,090
If you don't, the other person
gets a point.

1812
01:11:57,130 --> 01:12:00,910
So whatever point you want to
call a bluff, you say OK, no,

1813
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,130
backwards and forwards and then
that's it basically.

1814
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:08,440
So Hayden, you've got the 1st.
One, yeah, I've got a category.

1815
01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:09,770
Are you ready?
So when do I start?

1816
01:12:09,780 --> 01:12:11,290
I don't want to say no.
We did.

1817
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,730
We did it.
You gonna start the timer now?

1818
01:12:13,740 --> 01:12:15,400
I'm ready to start.
OK.

1819
01:12:15,410 --> 01:12:18,200
So the category is animals with
four legs.

1820
01:12:18,650 --> 01:12:19,860
Four legs.
OK, OK.

1821
01:12:19,870 --> 01:12:22,180
OK.
OK, definitely, definitely 7

1822
01:12:24,430 --> 01:12:25,200
OHH.
It's good, yeah.

1823
01:12:25,210 --> 01:12:32,040
Yeah, just coughing 9/9.
I can do 1000 percent 100%. 11.

1824
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:34,890
Now do I make you do it?
No.

1825
01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:37,330
I can do 12 easy.
Tough liar.

1826
01:12:37,340 --> 01:12:40,870
No, I really wanted to but I was
really trying to push him up.

1827
01:12:41,010 --> 01:12:41,770
Was thinking the.
Closer.

1828
01:12:41,780 --> 01:12:45,370
We get to 15.
That's OK How many 11121212 Did

1829
01:12:45,380 --> 01:12:47,210
I say I'm ready?
30 seconds.

1830
01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:49,470
Animals with four legs?
Go cat.

1831
01:12:49,580 --> 01:12:51,190
Dog.
Mouse.

1832
01:12:51,260 --> 01:12:53,630
Hedgehog.
Chameleon.

1833
01:12:54,510 --> 01:13:00,560
Elephant, Tiger, Lion, Platypus,
Anteater.

1834
01:13:00,630 --> 01:13:01,920
You got 18?
Seconds.

1835
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:06,950
Baboon ape, yeah.
That's 12 ohh.

1836
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,460
I got 12 seconds left.
Ohh.

1837
01:13:08,510 --> 01:13:10,290
I was walking around the zoo.
My hearing.

1838
01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:13,300
My head then I thought, no, I.
I honestly thought I couldn't

1839
01:13:13,310 --> 01:13:15,580
find the zoo.
What do I see?

1840
01:13:16,010 --> 01:13:18,830
One we did last week, I put
myself in my doorway of my

1841
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,920
classroom and walked around
trying to name the things like.

1842
01:13:21,540 --> 01:13:23,430
Yeah, yeah.
OK, My girlfriend.

1843
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:24,890
One now.
OK, My one.

1844
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:27,720
Yeah, I see.
I think this is a bit harder,

1845
01:13:27,730 --> 01:13:29,590
but maybe we'll still bid to
that kind of level.

1846
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,940
I don't know.
OK, so my one is different kinds

1847
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:36,160
of New Year's resolution.
So classic New Year's

1848
01:13:36,170 --> 01:13:38,410
resolutions.
OK, how many New Year's

1849
01:13:38,420 --> 01:13:47,290
resolutions can you name?
1 2 New Year's resolution Yeah,

1850
01:13:47,300 --> 01:13:48,740
different.
Things people might say for any

1851
01:13:48,750 --> 01:13:56,800
resolution you can think of.
Loads of 3/4. 5. 6 easy. 7.

1852
01:13:56,810 --> 01:13:58,820
Yeah, go later.
I knew.

1853
01:13:58,830 --> 01:14:00,130
I knew you didn't want to strike
at me.

1854
01:14:00,140 --> 01:14:01,980
Higher.
OK, ready. 7 New Year's

1855
01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:02,900
resolutions.
Go.

1856
01:14:02,940 --> 01:14:03,730
God.
OK.

1857
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:05,100
To.
Become healthier?

1858
01:14:05,170 --> 01:14:08,600
Yes.
Yeah, that's too vague to go to

1859
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:09,610
the gym.
OK.

1860
01:14:09,620 --> 01:14:12,620
Is that one or two you keeping
the first time OK to?

1861
01:14:12,660 --> 01:14:14,930
Start running that.
No you can't.

1862
01:14:14,940 --> 01:14:16,480
You can't have gym healthier and
running.

1863
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,710
OK, to start a new hobby?
Yes, that's the thing.

1864
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:26,330
To get a new job.
Yes for to resolutions to people

1865
01:14:26,340 --> 01:14:30,330
have to.
Give you running 5 three seconds

1866
01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:31,370
5 so to.
Make to make it.

1867
01:14:31,380 --> 01:14:32,450
Get a new girlfriend?
Boyfriend.

1868
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:35,710
I don't know.
One news resolution is that.

1869
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,690
The same 1 to get a girlfriend
and boyfriend.

1870
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:40,350
Yeah, that's. 2-3 Kings I quit.
Smoking.

1871
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,310
Quit drinking.
Oh my God.

1872
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,710
Quit stuff, yeah.
Stop stuff my brain.

1873
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:44,900
Get to work on.
Time.

1874
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,500
Obviously don't be on TV.
Lots of times Chris shows and

1875
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:51,180
occasionally would be like, oh
we could do this one.

1876
01:14:51,190 --> 01:14:54,130
He finds the one where it's like
this low stakes listen, I'm

1877
01:14:54,140 --> 01:14:55,350
being.
I'm being polite, OK?

1878
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,050
I've.
Got I've.

1879
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,250
I've got James on the other
line.

1880
01:14:57,260 --> 01:14:58,350
Ready.
Like James.

1881
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,330
It's you, mate.
I'll pretend I just freeze.

1882
01:15:00,340 --> 01:15:03,470
Up when I'm under pressure.
And you don't know anything.

1883
01:15:03,540 --> 01:15:04,330
And I don't know.
Anything.

1884
01:15:04,340 --> 01:15:05,940
Anyway, let's.
Finish off.

1885
01:15:05,980 --> 01:15:09,640
It's been a longest episode.
It's been a proper enjoyable

1886
01:15:09,650 --> 01:15:11,650
one.
I've loved this one bit longer.

1887
01:15:11,700 --> 01:15:13,470
Perfect we're now gonna go
through.

1888
01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:16,150
I asked last question was if you
made it this far through all of

1889
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,960
our questions and potentially
Instagram, what your top tips

1890
01:15:18,970 --> 01:15:20,960
for this year?
How can we make this year

1891
01:15:21,010 --> 01:15:23,380
really, really cool?
Hayden, I want you to rate them

1892
01:15:23,450 --> 01:15:25,780
out of 10.
How good is this?

1893
01:15:25,790 --> 01:15:27,820
Advice out of 10, OK, because
you're not gonna know who sent

1894
01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:29,280
them because some of these are
friends as well.

1895
01:15:29,290 --> 01:15:32,440
OK, so ready.
Firstly, planning your PPA,

1896
01:15:32,450 --> 01:15:35,380
anything that takes longer is
just too much work 10.

1897
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:37,440
Solid advice.
That was my one.

1898
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,200
Next one smile every day.
Six.

1899
01:15:42,270 --> 01:15:43,350
Ohh.
I liked that one.

1900
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:44,520
Nice, simple.
Go for it.

1901
01:15:45,330 --> 01:15:47,640
Breakdown everything you've got
to do into simple segments.

1902
01:15:47,650 --> 01:15:50,880
Tick them off as you go.
Solid eight, really nice bit of

1903
01:15:50,890 --> 01:15:52,110
advice there.
I think the best.

1904
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,350
Thing we ever got bought, by the
way.

1905
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,030
Well, I always remember it's one
of our head of years.

1906
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,680
Yeah.
In second or third year of

1907
01:15:57,690 --> 01:15:59,820
teaching brought us all To Do
List.

1908
01:15:59,950 --> 01:16:01,730
Yeah, Do you know?
What the advice was from testing

1909
01:16:01,770 --> 01:16:04,900
where the health visitor around
for the baby and her advice to

1910
01:16:04,910 --> 01:16:08,130
deal with post Natal stress and
just having so many things to do

1911
01:16:08,140 --> 01:16:11,240
was get her To Do List, write it
down and that way you don't have

1912
01:16:11,250 --> 01:16:13,820
to think about it.
So clear for me, and I am much

1913
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:18,840
more both efficient and I forget
listings, fewer things when I

1914
01:16:18,850 --> 01:16:19,960
write things down.
On To Do List.

1915
01:16:19,970 --> 01:16:22,390
It actually changed my teaching
genuinely little things.

1916
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,880
But really important, be
antisocial after work.

1917
01:16:26,550 --> 01:16:29,480
That is a really good one.
I loved that one.

1918
01:16:30,130 --> 01:16:31,880
Work is work.
They'd replace you within a

1919
01:16:31,890 --> 01:16:34,070
month if you left.
So just prioritise your home

1920
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,890
life. 11 Yeah, I love that one.
That is one of the people who

1921
01:16:36,900 --> 01:16:37,690
worked with us.
That is the.

1922
01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:39,340
Man, that is mantra right?
Absolutely.

1923
01:16:39,390 --> 01:16:42,100
This is really interesting one
and I agree, stay calm.

1924
01:16:42,110 --> 01:16:44,780
I've been teaching for over 25
years and I love it.

1925
01:16:44,990 --> 01:16:46,800
I get chased up, I haven't done
anything.

1926
01:16:47,090 --> 01:16:48,430
It's fine.
That's like.

1927
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:51,890
That advice given from our
deputy a long time ago, another

1928
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:53,010
10.
These are all such good bits of

1929
01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:55,940
advice, say.
No to anything that drains you

1930
01:16:56,410 --> 01:16:58,090
or that you are not getting paid
for.

1931
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,580
No2 you should do loads of
things that you.

1932
01:17:00,590 --> 01:17:02,550
Should if you're a.
Teacher, you should be working

1933
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:03,510
for free.
I can.

1934
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,650
Sense a 10 out of 10 sarcasm.
It's all really good.

1935
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,830
Prioritise.
Keep the children's progress and

1936
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,750
needs as the priority.
Other menial things can always

1937
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,850
wait. 9.
Make actual good content instead

1938
01:17:15,860 --> 01:17:17,800
of all of this rubbish that you
can put on Instagram.

1939
01:17:17,810 --> 01:17:20,450
That who sent this?
One You wrote that, you wrote

1940
01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:21,400
that one.
Yeah, it wasn't.

1941
01:17:21,410 --> 01:17:22,810
Anonymous.
How good is that Ted trying to

1942
01:17:22,820 --> 01:17:25,410
prank you too?
This one.

1943
01:17:25,420 --> 01:17:28,120
Really made me laugh.
We used to work with quit.

1944
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:33,870
I I saw this comfort.
It really cracked me up.

1945
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,960
Good.
It's the four laughing emojis

1946
01:17:35,970 --> 01:17:37,650
after for me.
Yeah, really good.

1947
01:17:37,660 --> 01:17:41,090
So yeah, there's resolution.
Was the quick, quick best thing

1948
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:43,230
she did.
By the way, you listen amazing

1949
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,410
teacher.
We miss you.

1950
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,050
But you did you.
Well done.

1951
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:47,390
You do you.
You do you.

1952
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,210
You do you.
Make sure you have something

1953
01:17:50,220 --> 01:17:52,350
else outside of work that makes
you happy.

1954
01:17:52,420 --> 01:17:57,090
Gives you some me time.
That is a solid 10, I agree.

1955
01:17:57,220 --> 01:17:58,710
It's just these are all really
important things.

1956
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,110
Really, really important.
And this one, one of our

1957
01:18:01,170 --> 01:18:03,190
favourite people who has been on
the podcast before.

1958
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,070
You know who it is when I say,
OK, not having a baby, So we've

1959
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,970
all failed at that.
He said that Sophie.

1960
01:18:09,980 --> 01:18:10,750
Ohh.
I thought it might be.

1961
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,050
Yeah, so.
I was like, yeah, that that

1962
01:18:13,060 --> 01:18:16,290
would be a way to get time
because it's just another

1963
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:17,390
spanner in the works, you know?
I was just.

1964
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,760
Thinking we better wrap up this
podcast.

1965
01:18:18,770 --> 01:18:21,800
You know why?
What can we hear screaming

1966
01:18:21,810 --> 01:18:22,890
babies in the background
screaming?

1967
01:18:22,900 --> 01:18:25,490
Babies.
We are gonna have babies.

1968
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:26,640
So stressful.
Get no free time.

1969
01:18:26,650 --> 01:18:28,130
Whatever.
Hour, podcast.

1970
01:18:28,430 --> 01:18:29,240
Yeah.
OK, cool.

1971
01:18:29,460 --> 01:18:31,330
Let's go right.
Bye, guys.

1972
01:18:31,340 --> 01:18:32,190
See you next week.
Bye.

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