Ep 29: New Year, Crumbling Schools & Geordie Accents

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Yo, what is up my guys?
Season 2.

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Yo-yo.
With With Anyway, Hello guys,

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we're back to the episode of TC
Repeat.

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If you're not watching on the
video, what's your name?

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My name's Haden, by the way.
Not watching on the video there

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that that start probably sounded
a bit odd.

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We're here.
We're in real.

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Life.
Yeah, this is weird.

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I don't like it already.
Liked it earlier?

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I did, but that was it was a
novelty.

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And I'm like, we're recording.
Do I look at you?

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Look at the screen?
The screen?

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This is the new layout, guys.
This is Season 2, Season 2,

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baby.
We're gonna be here like this?

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I asked on Instagram about
Season 2.

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I said something like should we
call it Season 2 because it's

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the second year or do we just
carry on new episodes and?

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And no one voted, so we chose
the thing.

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Whenever we do a vote on
Instagram, I always do the first

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vote just to make sure that
whoever, it's not just going to

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100%.
Yeah, so I voted for meh, don't

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care.
Just more episodes.

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Every single other person who
voted or one of them, no, that's

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quite a few said hell yeah baby.
Season 2, that's where that, you

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know, energetic entrance came
from.

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But we're in real life.
Another that's different.

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You guys spotted it?
It's different.

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Let's run a hat really hot.
So it's This might not make it.

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I did think about wearing a hat
indoors.

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You quite like where I'm pretty
sure you told the story before

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We did Dylan, but we did.
We did Dylan.

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He's loving wearing his hat if
you haven't checked our previous

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episodes.
Really interesting story about a

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massive head.
It's hard to find out.

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My whole childhood right has
been me, my mum moaning at me

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go.
Didn't it's hot outside.

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Put a hat on my.
Head out to your mum by the way.

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Just quick shout out to dinner
Mum, I praised last time, you

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remember.
I was very, very pleased.

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Because, you know, didn't family
in general just said nice things

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about me.
Since then, though, worried

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about my hands.
Apparently I look like I've got

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a condition.
Exactly the quote isn't it?

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Yeah.
Gonna find the phone because you

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know, you know my mum, she
doesn't actually want to rub

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anyone at the wrong way, but it
was just hilarious cuz she

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private messaged me.
So this is out the family chat.

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Sometimes in the family chat
they mentioned about the podcast

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but she literally went out of
her way to privately message me

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and I'm going to find the exact
wording.

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So it doesn't go wrong, but it
was all about your hands.

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Will you show me your hands?
If you're watching this podcast,

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just show your.
Yeah, I've seen my hands.

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No, but I'm not fine.
What what?

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How would you describe your?
Hands.

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I mean, they are pretty gross.
I'm not gonna lie.

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I bite my nails.
Worst habit ever.

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I don't have any other nail
biters out there that are over 7

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like me.
I found it.

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But yeah, there's no conditions
though.

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All right, so this was the
message I got out of the blue.

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Please, please don't repeat this
if it's a condition.

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Oh, there we go on the podcast.
But it's not a condition, so

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it's fine.
Please don't repeat this.

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It's a condition.
But Hayden's hands always look

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like they've been cleaned beyond
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Exclamation mark.
They look like everyone's had

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during COVID because of the tips
of the fingers always look red,

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but like a.
Clean red.

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Yeah.
I tell you what though, that's

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just from me biting my nails.
It's terrible.

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But also I do wash my hands a
lot and I'm interested for our

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teacher, viewers out there and
people that work in schools.

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If you wash your hands, like way
more than perhaps you did before

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you were in schools.
Because I do.

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I wash my hands like every break
time, every lunchtime, basically

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every time I've touched anything
that school and then I want to

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do anything with my hand, I wash
my hands.

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Yeah, so I have got disgusting.
It was like it was always that

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mean during COVID.
Would that be with a cat who's

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like mad cough?
And it's like asking teachers to

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go back to the pandemic when
kids cough like this.

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I love that I did.
I literally.

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I had a phase for like a good
month for doing that for all the

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time.
Just just because she laughed

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once.
That's what US men someone last

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ones hyper fixate.
Anyway, we're babbling on.

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We are back to school this week.
We missed an episode last week

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because, you know, a small
matter of moving house in the

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last day of some holidays.
So that was incredibly not

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stressful in the slightest and
haven't even thinking about it

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ever since.
No, I was thinking about helping

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you at some point, but yeah, he
helped me quite.

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Hard.
Did I?

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Yeah, I think when you move
house, everyone, everyone I

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know, and I always think, you
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ohh, of course I don't actually
want to take their help because

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it's annoying.
That is weird.

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I'm not horribly weird about
accepting help for anything, so

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it's really annoying actually
because he does goes to the next

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level.
And no, I can't.

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I just accept the help.
People just want to help.

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We just want to help you.
Moves and boxes?

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No.
But listen, listen, it's it's

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done now.
It's not that.

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It's.
Bad.

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That 5% done.
Yeah, you've moved.

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He's moved everything.
My stuff's in the new house.

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Yeah, and that's as far as we'll
go there.

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Conversation.
So that's gonna happen.

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But yeah, moving house.
But it's been the first week of

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time and obviously we're here.
We're back with the teachers.

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They missed out last week.
You guys inundating me with

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messages.
I had like 0 people messaging me

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saying where's episode.
So we're back.

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But his new school.
Yeah.

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How's your first?
Week.

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Well, firstly, this is not
really our new setup by the way.

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That joke at the beginning, and
we never actually find it.

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I've got no Internet.
So he's got, you know, we

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wanted, we wanted to do an
episode.

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We missed one last week.
We're very aware that we

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probably missed this week and
next week.

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Yeah, I don't think another
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So we would miss next week as
well next week.

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If we're doing a podcast next
week, which I hope so it will be

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like this again.
So do let us know in the

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comments how awful it is.
Great.

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In the comments.
In the comments and there's

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YouTube video about where's this
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I don't know.
Anyway, back to the week anyway.

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How's your first week back?
Do you know what we gonna be

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positive for the start?
I've I've been really stressed,

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stressful.
I've found it really stressful.

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I'm not gonna lie, I don't
wanna.

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I don't wanna give like a false
impression.

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Well, you do shirk away from
work.

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So, I mean, you know you gotta
do.

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Something I've just found it
really stressful.

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I don't know why my class are
lovely though.

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I will say that as we always
say, the best bit about

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teaching, the bits we do it for
is I've enjoyed every single

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second with my new class.
That's so nice.

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So what's made you stressed
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It's just work, isn't it?
It's the start of the year,

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stressful.
There's just a million things to

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sort and the expectation very
much, and I know this will just

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be across every school.
Is unless you go in your summer.

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And do a bunch of days there and
get everything done.

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You just there's not actually
enough time to do the job in,

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you know, the time that you're
paid for to do the job.

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So not enough time.
Anyway, never mind when you have

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a break.
So you've got to do all this

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stuff.
If if we ever asked the question

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when, the answer would be just
when.

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Yeah, just it just get it done.
But eight, it's gotta get done.

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If you have any other job, that
would be the case.

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It does wind me up a bit now.
We were talking about this the

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other day when teachers might be
thinking this.

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And if you think about any job,
to be honest with you, if you do

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a job right in any walk of life,
if you do the job and maybe you

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know, it's done.
But the someone says, ohh, could

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we just do it a different way?
We try a different way.

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Right.
For example, you know, when we

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built our website and we had it
built and we were like, oh,

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actually, could we get this done
instead?

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Or could you just fix that for
me?

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Or could you do this or whatever
and you're working out?

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Yeah, sure.
And then you come back tomorrow

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and you'll do it in your work
time.

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Yeah.
Like you'll just do it.

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OK Yeah.
That's gonna take up more of my

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time.
But I'm at work.

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And I'm.
Working and I do it then with

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this job.
And people have probably been in

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schools like this before where
you do planning.

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So you put hours and hours, by
the way, outside of school to do

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the planning.
Then you go in and then someone

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might say, ohh, you know what?
It just doesn't hit XYZ.

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You know that task.
Yeah, you've planned that task,

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but we could have done this
instead, really.

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And that probably hit this more
it's never but but leave it

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there and we'll just do it next
time.

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Yeah, because actually did this
in your own time anyway, So I

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think it's just ohh.
So can you go in and do that?

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So yeah, what do you mean?
That's kind of the point I got

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to in in the end of summer.
So I I left the last week of the

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summer holidays basically as a
as a week of I'll get stuff

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ready for school basically.
Which Theresa Mental sentence?

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I know, it's mad, isn't it?
Shouldn't.

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It shouldn't be.
It shouldn't be.

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That's one of.
The few times I think we're both

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saying, but of course we have
had six weeks off.

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Yes, I don't mind spending the
time, but after like a few days

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of planning, I did just spend.
Phase planning at home lessons

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and things and tweaking bits and
bobs.

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I then just Ohh, my plan was to
go into school as well and do a

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bunch of.
I just didn't go in.

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I was like, no, I don't know
what I've done it.

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I've done enough.
It's mental.

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But I'm now like it's almost
like I've not done my job

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properly.
You didn't.

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You didn't come in for four days
unpaid.

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I don't like that and it annoys
me.

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We've got to get the job done.
It doesn't not get done right.

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That's why.
This week's mistress, that's

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why.
Because I didn't get as much

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done as I normally would in the
summer, I prepared.

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So then it was suddenly like,
I've got these 12 things and the

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sort of, yeah, I feel like for
me, teaching has turned into how

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much free work can I get away
with not doing and my life be OK

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in school.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And when I say get away with, I
mean to the not detriment of my

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stress.
Yeah.

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So because the less we do, the
more stressed I feel like there,

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there there is still,
everything's got to get done.

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But if I decide actually I just
can't do that, it's still then

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stressful to have to explain to
someone why something might not

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have.
Happened.

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Of course.
You don't let people down.

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You do.
Especially when the people

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around you maybe are doing way
above and beyond which becomes

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the norm and and it's like
that's fantastic and I'd never

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ever want to put people down for
doing more.

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And I hate being that person.
Because when I was doing more

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when I was younger, I used to
look at those people, remember,

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like, get over it, Let me do it.
I love this.

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I wanna do it.
Yeah, but I do see the other

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side now, which is just OK,
that's now set a new bar for

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everyone that might be seen as
normal.

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Well, this person coped.
Why can't we just all, you know,

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spend 6 hours doing that's?
True.

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And we've been there exactly the
same place.

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I'd I'd look to those people
very naively and and was like

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not just not doing their job
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I'll do it.
Why aren't they doing what I'm

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doing?
I'm passionate.

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I'm doing it when you were
younger.

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Right, yeah, when I was younger.
But really, yeah, I'm like, ohh,

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OK actually had lives.
I lived at home with my mum and

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I did nothing.
I was like, of course it was.

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It was easy.
And it was your hobby.

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Almost.
It was my hobby.

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That's what I wanted to do the
weekend.

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I was like, I'm gonna actually,
I'm gonna plough some time into

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this.
It's called, But at the end of

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the day, it is a job.
Yeah, it is a job.

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That's our little man.
We're only one weekend, yeah,

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but apart?
From that, it's not even like

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I'm not trying to be negative
about this, I'm just, I'm just

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saying like I've just found it
quite stressful.

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That's it.
And I think it's OK if you're

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stressed as well, like that's
fine and you probably won't be

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stressed in a few weeks time.
I know I won't be right now, I

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am, but in a couple of weeks
time everything is actually just

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OK and all the.
You know, beginning of year

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stuff is sorted.
I'll be fine.

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But yeah, it's been a stressful
few days.

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Um.
Few days I emphasise yeah, it's

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another thing this is, this is
what I always feel bad moaning

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like we're not even.
In I know we're not even full

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time.
It's terrible.

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And people often say that, Like
if I say anything negative, it

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would be yeah, we only went
three days.

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You'll get over it.
OK, everything's invalid then.

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I'll stretch for three days.
It's fine.

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It's the old saying, isn't it?
Yeah, three days in and there's

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no stress to begin, isn't it?
It's a bit weird standing up.

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It's strange, yeah.
Yeah, because it's just the

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background.
Although it's not ideal.

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It's much better than even we
were further.

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Down normally.
So I'm a bit funny about this.

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I like the door closed, OK?
Cuz I don't like the way it

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looks, but it's so unbelievably
hot in this room right now.

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Guys, you don't understand.
Dylan normally sweats of what

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I've already got here.
Half used tissue.

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But I tell you what, let's talk
about a bit more, OK?

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What does he look like?
I want to think right now, cuz I

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really think he looks like a
character from a Netflix series,

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quite a big Netflix series
that's reminds me of every time

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he wears it.
I see.

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I just think of this character,
horrible psychopathic murderer.

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Yeah, you know the guy from you
the series you can watch that

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actually looks like, that's
nice.

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I thought myself, I thought I
think when you did mention this

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the other day that you think so
like you the guy from you and I

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was like, yeah, whatever.
But I just, I'm loving the fact

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that if it's in my head, I
always think everyone knows the

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type of men who wear hats
indoors.

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They're men who are going bald,
right?

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Let's just say it right now.
Yeah.

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If you know a guy who always is
wearing a cap indoors, he's

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probably going bald.
And I just wanna confirm that

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that's not happening.
OK, so maybe.

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You've seen it here.
First because they were in the

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hat.
It's compressing the air.

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That's where your hair's been
put.

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You got, you made, you made a
parting.

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I could almost do it, yeah.
Yeah, your partner is 5 inches

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wide.
Quick story actually remembered

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something.
Just remember something.

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So the new, the new cohort of
children that I've got, it

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happens to be a cohort that
Dylan taught two years ago.

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I leave my mark.
I leave my mark.

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I wanna talk about a teacher
leaving a mark.

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In a minute.
Let me remember, carry on, OK?

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Alright, remember that and
second third day in a boy in my

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English class?
I'm not even in my actual class,

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I don't know that well, just
said because I was being mean

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about it and obviously I was
comparing him to an or something

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like that on the screen always.
You know you, but he he always

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got you as well.
I was like, did he?

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Did he?
Because Adam in year two years

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ago by the way.
Did he?

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What did he say?
And the boy was like, yeah,

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yeah, Mr. Price always got us to
call you baldy locks and the

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three hairs.
And then the whole cars erupted

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into laughter.
The long game.

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The long game.
That Mister Price say what's he

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like?
The big ogre man I just knew it

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would pay off.
I knew it would pay off

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eventually and and you know
what's great, the next cohort

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will be the exact same day and
year 6 cause I've been working

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my magic.
I'm currently the point now in

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year four where I've been there
so long because we're Junior

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School three to four, three to
six.

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I actually feel like I know
nearly all of the children in

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the school really well because
I've taught them so long and I'm

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getting to know the new year for
us.

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And I just love the idea of
being able to just walk into

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almost any classroom and just
like have an in joke with them.

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And also just absolutely rinse
you until they get to you and

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you say it's in every single
year.

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We're just chatting that kid who
just think.

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They can rip you.
I tell you what, jokes aside,

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because teaching is acting.
You guys, you know, this is just

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podcasting.
Podcasting.

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I wish I was anywhere else right
now.

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And I'm joking.
Of course I'm joking.

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Rude.
Yeah, OK, back.

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Teaching acting, you know it's
right and.

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As much as I pretend to be like
Ohh.

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He said, what about me?
And then all, you know, it's all

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part of the plan and the kids
love it.

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They're so engaged by a bit of
banter.

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It's unreal between us.
It's I do use it to my advantage

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all the time to get them
interested in something, because

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as soon as they laugh a little
bit and it's like, yeah,

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determine as though, hmm, really
interesting, these aren't they?

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Remember the price determined.
Determined.

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What's that?
Several.

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Yeah, that's.
Trick them into thinking for Mr.

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Price.
Fun.

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Yeah, so it was Prices.
Ohh several hairs on his head.

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Yeah, yeah.
So you know, I use it, use it to

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my advantage.
But yeah, I wanted to talk about

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that because obviously I'm in my
new class this year and this

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whole point of some teachers
leave a mark obviously on their

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class.
Every teacher leaves a mark on

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their class when they move up
and there'll be certain things

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that stand out more.
And with my class, I've never

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felt that a previous teacher had
has had more of an impact on a

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class in a really good way, like
in a really good way.

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So when they're in a really good
way and I know for a fact the

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person I'm talking about, she
knows who she is and she

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probably listens to this.
And I just want to say like like

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what a job you've done.
And I think it sometimes I'm

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very cynical about the impact we
can have as teachers on on kids.

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I think I I still think overall
what happens at home and in

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those formative years is, is a
huge chunk.

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I think that's hugely important
and I think our impact, we can

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have an impact, but it's not
huge.

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Yeah, I think a lot of it is
down to what's?

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Already as big as we think,
maybe not as big as we think.

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Exactly.
I don't think we can turn around

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individual cases, but I think on
the whole you can have a

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difference.
But maybe not as big as we like

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to think we can.
Like you said, sure.

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But what you can do is have an
impact on long term attitudes

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and this class clearly loved
this last teacher and we I was

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only in for three days speak and
I I reckon.

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Because part time, because I
reckon 5 to 10 times, probably

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like three or four times a day,
maybe there'd be moments where

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the children would hark back to
stuff from last year.

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Anyone who's a teacher knows, by
the way, that after six weeks

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and some holidays the kids come
back and they forgotten the time

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stables.
They've forgotten how to spell

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their name.
They don't how to put two, they

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forgot what capital letter is
not full stop is yeah, But these

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kids in maths, they were
singing.

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They were singing this song,
reminding them how to exchanging

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and they could just do it.
And everyone joined in and it

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was someone mentioned this
teacher's name just in passing

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it about last year and this one
boy just goes ohh don't say her

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name.
This makes me feel sad because

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she's left.
The school, Ohh, she's left the

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scores, nothing around you know,
kind of going to see her and I

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just wanted to say because I
know she listens so smashed it

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like those kids like dote on
her.

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But also that is like we always
said, has translated into

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progress.
It's translated into them

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learning things.
They're learning behaviours are

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awesome, they're mature, they're
lovely, they're thoughtful and I

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think as a teacher we can have a
huge impact in that way.

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Yeah, I agree.
An amazing job and I aspire to

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make my class and feel like
that.

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She's one of our tutors who
works with us.

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Yeah, there's an ego.
That's why.

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So you have a good reason.
Absolutely loved it.

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Loved being with the kids this
week.

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It's just jumping onto a moving
train, isn't it?

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It is stressful and I'm finding
it stressful.

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I think really right.
So should we get into the park?

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OK.
One more thing.

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You know, I'll talk about a
second.

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You forgot about obviously
Dylan, where we're just at our

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our weekly lunch at Cramptons,
as you know, I think weekly.

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It's not weekly and I've just
remembered really.

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Like twice weekly, No joking.
And we sat there and it was like

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a proper skip, like a comedy
skit sat behind us.

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Alistair Green, anyone who's not
searched or known Alistair Green

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search, Alistair Green,
comedian.

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You know you'll know what we
mean after this.

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Story So funny.
It was exactly like his

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impressions of people like this,
right?

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Sat down and table and a couple
of tables away from us was a

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table of five Women Women's
Institute.

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Yeah, but older women, probably
between 60 and 80I reckon, age

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wise and they were having a good
old chin wag and you know,

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putting the world to right this
one very, very dominant

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character of the group who just
kept talking.

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It was quite condescending.
Who would be like that?

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I'm going to read to you because
I wrote down what she said

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because I knew I'd forget
exactly what it was.

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But it was like, it's so surreal
because it was like a joke,

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wasn't it?
Yeah, it was like comedy sketch,

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OK, like, you got the voice.
OK, right.

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So they were talking about
immigrants.

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I think you know where this is
going already.

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So very, very white women, by
the way, a very white group

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here, the kind of women who
bought their house for a postage

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stamp in 1970 and think they
have some kind of rights to why

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they've got money.
OK, so this woman said.

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And talk to another woman.
It would have been very

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confidential.
Look, I don't know about you,

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but I actually go out like
everyday and I walk around, I go

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to different places and I've
just, I've just noticed that the

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faces, you know, the faces
around are really starting to

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change, You know, I hate it.
There's only one thing that

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means.
There's only one thing that

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means and you can pretend to be
posh and be like.

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Ohh mean anything wrong with
that?

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I just the faces that I see are
stay indoors.

454
00:18:27,910 --> 00:18:30,240
Stay in their love, honest to
God.

455
00:18:30,250 --> 00:18:32,580
What are you on about God?
She's not even.

456
00:18:32,590 --> 00:18:33,730
This is the worst thing about
this.

457
00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:36,510
This is like genuinely like pure
racism, right?

458
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,600
Because she's not even saying
ohh, I saw this guy doing this

459
00:18:39,610 --> 00:18:41,100
thing.
Yeah and we'd be like ohh

460
00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:42,200
generalised.
But I can see why.

461
00:18:42,210 --> 00:18:43,860
Maybe you're putting 22
together.

462
00:18:43,870 --> 00:18:45,900
You're of that generation.
I don't think it's an excuse

463
00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:48,640
anymore if you're literally just
saying the faces I see are

464
00:18:48,650 --> 00:18:50,380
changing.
And that's the point.

465
00:18:50,580 --> 00:18:52,980
That's the end of the argument.
Yeah, I'm looking.

466
00:18:52,990 --> 00:18:56,620
I'm just really noticing it.
Yeah, I can I I steered

467
00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:58,170
different faces.
Now what?

468
00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:00,140
You saying and they were like.
Hmm.

469
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,930
Hmm.
Yeah, they'd lap up anything she

470
00:19:01,940 --> 00:19:03,210
was saying.
Yeah, but she didn't stop

471
00:19:03,220 --> 00:19:05,410
talking, did she?
Honestly, it was it was such a

472
00:19:05,420 --> 00:19:08,190
mean.
It was look at Alistair Green

473
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,570
because he doesn't impression of
this middle class woman who's

474
00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:13,270
like, yeah, well I was down the
Waitrose the other day and I

475
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,890
just went past one of the
aisles.

476
00:19:15,070 --> 00:19:16,990
They've got couscous down there
now.

477
00:19:17,060 --> 00:19:20,970
Yeah, and you'll never guess I
counted the number of people I

478
00:19:20,980 --> 00:19:24,260
walked past that weren't white.
That has changed.

479
00:19:24,330 --> 00:19:27,300
I'm not saying anything about
it, but that has changed over

480
00:19:27,310 --> 00:19:30,180
the years in my opinion.
That is, you know, when people

481
00:19:30,190 --> 00:19:32,280
say, like, racism is not a
problem.

482
00:19:32,330 --> 00:19:34,950
Yeah, right.
And it's like people are no,

483
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,660
everyone's I'm not.
Right, OK, whatever.

484
00:19:37,730 --> 00:19:40,570
But clearly is if we're having
that kind of casual conversation

485
00:19:40,580 --> 00:19:42,950
where people are just going.
It looks different.

486
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,700
I'm just like he wasn't saying.
That faces were different.

487
00:19:45,710 --> 00:19:47,560
She wasn't meaning, like a lot
younger faces.

488
00:19:47,570 --> 00:19:50,860
She was specifically meaning
people who didn't look visibly

489
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:54,440
British were around her.
And she I hate him.

490
00:19:54,490 --> 00:19:56,280
I hate him.
I have mentioned that if I was

491
00:19:56,290 --> 00:19:59,020
cynical, I'd say hopefully that
he's eradicated in the next 20

492
00:19:59,030 --> 00:19:59,620
years.
But I'm.

493
00:19:59,630 --> 00:20:02,780
Not so, no.
We'll say anyways should move.

494
00:20:02,790 --> 00:20:04,540
On Yeah, let's move on.
I'm glad you said that at the

495
00:20:04,550 --> 00:20:06,030
end because I was in a good
mood.

496
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,740
We've got Podcast Season 2,
maybe Season 2.

497
00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:11,580
I can walk around, baby.
Can you hear me?

498
00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:14,880
Should we do the Jingle?
We're still gonna do the.

499
00:20:14,890 --> 00:20:16,220
Jingle.
Alright, that would have been

500
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:17,390
the jungle then.
OK.

501
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,240
Right.
OK, bye.

502
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,430
OK, before we carry on and get
too excited and my God for a

503
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,440
little walk again, that could be
the new joke when the Jingle ohh

504
00:20:27,450 --> 00:20:29,810
in the time it takes you still
walk around the studio is the

505
00:20:29,820 --> 00:20:31,780
studio.
Studio, studio, studio around

506
00:20:31,790 --> 00:20:34,450
the studio.
Anyway before we go on guys, we

507
00:20:34,460 --> 00:20:36,240
are calling it Season 2.
I didn't know to call it season

508
00:20:36,250 --> 00:20:38,130
2 or not cuz I thought is that a
bit cliche?

509
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,870
Good new.
Year Owning it.

510
00:20:39,940 --> 00:20:43,470
It's Season 2, Season 2.
We're here all summer, but in

511
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,460
Season 2 we've got quite a lot
planned.

512
00:20:45,470 --> 00:20:46,910
We're gonna get some more
guests, but we haven't done

513
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,790
guests in a little while.
A few big ones lined up,

514
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:49,830
actually.
Yeah, I know.

515
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,480
I can't wait to talk to Rishi.
She's not coming.

516
00:20:52,490 --> 00:20:54,090
Yeah, he's gonna come in.
Gillian Keegan.

517
00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:55,670
Gillian Keegan Yeah, yeah she's
on the way.

518
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,410
Who has to be.
Yeah.

519
00:20:56,420 --> 00:20:57,840
Where David Cameron.
David Cameron.

520
00:20:58,130 --> 00:20:59,560
Yeah we thought that be
interesting.

521
00:20:59,570 --> 00:21:00,760
Interesting.
He's coming on the same day.

522
00:21:00,770 --> 00:21:02,480
Yeah.
In fact, I think pretty much the

523
00:21:02,490 --> 00:21:04,470
whole year is taken up by prime
ministers and last 10 cause

524
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,300
we've had about 67 Conservative.
Prime Minister?

525
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:07,900
Yes.
So the last year of the Prime

526
00:21:07,910 --> 00:21:11,240
Minister's coming on, I wonder
what that woman's thought to the

527
00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:13,300
Prime Minister might be.
I'm just saying I'm seeing the

528
00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:15,620
Prime Minister and the face is
changing.

529
00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:17,240
Changing.
They're changing.

530
00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:20,500
There's something about him.
I don't know, honestly.

531
00:21:20,570 --> 00:21:22,710
Ohh, Barbara.
But really, we did Barbara.

532
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,640
Barbara is my name.
That's my name.

533
00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:28,900
That's how it works, right?
Yeah, there's loads planned.

534
00:21:29,450 --> 00:21:32,030
Season 2's gone away.
But guys, we need your plan,

535
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,940
your plans.
You can tell in school mode.

536
00:21:34,170 --> 00:21:36,960
We need your stories.
We need your ideas.

537
00:21:36,970 --> 00:21:39,040
We've got some already because
we had a week off.

538
00:21:39,050 --> 00:21:41,830
So we've got a couple that we
want to talk about, but I'm just

539
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,100
buzzing for it, guys, and
hopefully you are too.

540
00:21:44,110 --> 00:21:46,360
We're going to have a new set up
because I'm moving house.

541
00:21:46,410 --> 00:21:49,020
And long term, we do actually
want to do more face to face.

542
00:21:49,070 --> 00:21:50,470
Yeah.
Let us know what you think about

543
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,180
face to face.
It's just horribly awkward.

544
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,170
Right now, long term, we
probably have a camera each, you

545
00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:56,540
know, have one of those kind of
podcasts.

546
00:21:56,550 --> 00:21:58,220
Right now, we're just making do.
I can do.

547
00:21:58,230 --> 00:22:00,730
You're not even watching this.
Waste a lot of time listening to

548
00:22:00,740 --> 00:22:02,970
us, I'm not gonna lie.
Wasted a lot of time.

549
00:22:02,980 --> 00:22:04,910
Anyway, thank you Anyway.
Yeah, we're in education

550
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,180
Podcast.
What's the little problem?

551
00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:12,860
That a lot of the schools in the
country might fall down soon.

552
00:22:12,910 --> 00:22:14,920
Maybe we should talk about that,
shall we?

553
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:15,910
Not a problem.
Is that problem?

554
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,710
No problem.
Hayden, what have you just said

555
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,380
to me in the break What you just
said to me in the break?

556
00:22:19,390 --> 00:22:21,200
We reminded ourselves we're
going over.

557
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:24,180
I said the rack problem.
And what did you say about the

558
00:22:24,190 --> 00:22:25,070
concrete?
What was your?

559
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,440
Thing I said I don't actually
know much about it, just the

560
00:22:27,450 --> 00:22:31,040
teacher doesn't remotely I
listen to the news or anything.

561
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,660
Like, a little bit, but I
generally get my news from you.

562
00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:40,670
You know shut up about it.
So I just it is important, I

563
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,150
know you mentioned it to me in
the podcast live, so we're gonna

564
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,410
give you some insight guys with
half the people here.

565
00:22:46,450 --> 00:22:47,640
Was that cut?
That was cut?

566
00:22:47,650 --> 00:22:50,270
If you're watching it, you might
notice just because Dylan swore

567
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,130
didn't swear.
Very nearly.

568
00:22:53,140 --> 00:22:55,250
Swore very nearly.
You can imagine what I said.

569
00:22:55,260 --> 00:22:58,510
I'm going to just pause where I
would have said the swear word

570
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,660
and you can would have, but I
didn't.

571
00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:02,890
OK, I said.
We're gonna give us a really

572
00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:05,310
valuable insight now into this
whole concrete thing.

573
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,510
We're half of the presenters who
don't have a clue what's been

574
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,390
going on, that's what.
That's all I said there

575
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,270
presented.
We think we can't just say every

576
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,230
time you see here's where they
are right now, Ohh, put him back

577
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,290
he's actually looking at.
Himself.

578
00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:20,930
Yeah, I hate this.
He's actually, he's looking at

579
00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:23,010
himself.
Yeah, we all do it, right?

580
00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:25,400
When you're on Zoom, OK.
If you ever go on Zoom, what you

581
00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:27,130
look at whole time looking a
little picture of yourself in

582
00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:29,950
the corner, you staring at it,
OK, because we're all obsessed.

583
00:23:30,180 --> 00:23:33,090
I look at myself because I'm
just aware of me.

584
00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:36,330
I'm right there on the screen.
And now from now on, I'm looking

585
00:23:36,340 --> 00:23:37,750
at you.
I don't actually know where to

586
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520
look like, do I look at you?
Because then we're just like

587
00:23:40,530 --> 00:23:40,870
side.
On.

588
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,710
That's why I'm aware of every
time I turn to the side, I'm

589
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,650
like, oh, look at that profile.
As a manager, once again,

590
00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:47,080
listening.
Complete waste of time.

591
00:23:47,090 --> 00:23:47,810
Really.
Sorry.

592
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,380
Anyway, we're going to go on to
the concrete crisis.

593
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:51,730
Hayden, what do you know about
it?

594
00:23:51,740 --> 00:23:53,250
This is this.
Is this is what I know.

595
00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:55,140
I know there is a type of
stomach.

596
00:23:56,610 --> 00:23:59,010
I know there is a a type of
concrete that was used

597
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,480
predominantly like 60s or 70s or
something.

598
00:24:01,490 --> 00:24:02,970
It was from the 50s all the way
to the.

599
00:24:02,980 --> 00:24:06,410
That's what I said, and that
concrete it has now been

600
00:24:06,420 --> 00:24:09,950
discovered to be quite terrible.
Well, I remember it like

601
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,050
implodes very easily.
I can just go at any point, like

602
00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:15,420
it has no signs and it can just
go well.

603
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:17,930
I remembered, I think is very
briefly spoke to you about this

604
00:24:17,940 --> 00:24:21,010
like a week ago and your literal
reaction was, why is it a

605
00:24:21,020 --> 00:24:23,150
problem now?
We're not a problem for 20

606
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,290
years.
Why did they just decide it's a

607
00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:25,610
problem?
Now, yeah, we're going to the

608
00:24:25,620 --> 00:24:26,490
tip.
I don't know.

609
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:28,490
I'll probably be.
If I'm sure I am Boomers.

610
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:29,990
It does.
It does just seem like one of

611
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,770
them.
Ohh really.

612
00:24:30,780 --> 00:24:32,530
Is it this massive problem now?
Is it?

613
00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:34,030
Yes.
Do you know why?

614
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,170
Yeah.
Hasn't happened once.

615
00:24:35,180 --> 00:24:37,430
It has.
That's why I'm thinking about,

616
00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:40,230
because one of the concrete
things literally collapsed.

617
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,100
And they were like, we do need
to reevaluate this.

618
00:24:42,110 --> 00:24:43,750
Actually.
They went and reevaluated it and

619
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,520
it was like, at any moment any
of them could form.

620
00:24:46,090 --> 00:24:50,270
And it's in schools like it's in
a school school.

621
00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:52,930
It's just annoys me, annoys me.
So yeah, this whole thing.

622
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,150
And the point being though, the
biggest point that's been made

623
00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:58,760
out of everything is that since
2010.

624
00:24:58,810 --> 00:25:01,560
Ohh, what happened in 2010?
Ohh.

625
00:25:01,570 --> 00:25:02,620
The Conservatives came to power
on.

626
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:06,010
The story began.
Since 2010 they have literally

627
00:25:06,020 --> 00:25:10,030
slashed budgets for repairs and
stuff and this is a direct

628
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,750
result.
What is happening right now is a

629
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,730
direct result of 13 years of
austerity and cuts.

630
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,470
Like we've always said, you can
handle some cuts for like 3-4.

631
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,050
Five years.
Because it's a long time.

632
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:21,830
Yes, because.
This is a result of it, yes,

633
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:28,190
because under Labour, right big
push and huge, huge input and

634
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,610
money into schools for things
like refurbishment.

635
00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:33,530
Now refurbishment doesn't get
your front page glossy headlines

636
00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:36,190
like that's why this
Conservatives always say 40 new

637
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,680
hospitals, because it will get
the front page 40 new hospitals.

638
00:25:38,690 --> 00:25:39,940
Wow.
But really, they.

639
00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:41,030
Mean.
Are you suggesting that they

640
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,160
would have if they was in power?
We wouldn't have this problem

641
00:25:43,170 --> 00:25:45,010
right now.
And what I'm suggesting is, and

642
00:25:45,020 --> 00:25:48,810
if this is a fact, yeah, there
was double if not quadruple the

643
00:25:48,820 --> 00:25:50,530
amount of money for refurbs in
schools.

644
00:25:50,620 --> 00:25:54,470
And there's a literal fact here
historically, they'd be like 50

645
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,750
schools a year, right, that
you'd have money for in schools.

646
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,930
Labour is ramping up, ramping up
per year up towards 100 I think.

647
00:26:00,940 --> 00:26:04,110
But it was going up and up and
the spike input is like going

648
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,290
up, up, up towards 2010.
Yeah.

649
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,470
After 2010 when the blue come in
the blue line.

650
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,210
Down, down, down, down, down,
squeeze, squeeze, squeeze,

651
00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:13,190
squeeze, squeeze, yeah.
And the civil service for years,

652
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,000
every year said, look we need,
we've got budget for 100 schools

653
00:26:17,010 --> 00:26:19,220
to fix, right.
So they went to Rishi Sunak in

654
00:26:19,230 --> 00:26:21,580
like 2019-2020 when he was
chancellor.

655
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:23,140
This is what's going on the
backside now.

656
00:26:23,180 --> 00:26:25,510
When he was chancellor, they
said, look, OK, we're going to

657
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,570
go there.
We're going to say, right,

658
00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:29,570
hundred schools, great to sort
this out though.

659
00:26:29,580 --> 00:26:31,560
We need to like double it and
maybe triple.

660
00:26:31,570 --> 00:26:33,900
It to sort that out though, to
sort out the amount of money

661
00:26:33,910 --> 00:26:36,130
that's needed to refurb the
schools because they are so.

662
00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:38,080
Did they know?
My point here is, did they know

663
00:26:38,090 --> 00:26:40,400
of the concrete thing until
recently?

664
00:26:40,410 --> 00:26:42,580
They knew that they they knew
that it wasn't.

665
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,160
It wasn't a good thing, but it's
not.

666
00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:46,910
It's been upgraded to critical
now because it fell.

667
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,720
Down because my point, my point
was gonna be was if labour had

668
00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:52,570
been, I'm not anti labour, pro
labour, but it would be in the

669
00:26:52,580 --> 00:26:54,260
same situation.
Now, because a refurb doesn't

670
00:26:54,270 --> 00:26:57,620
normally include, let's, let's
redo the concrete foundations

671
00:26:57,630 --> 00:26:59,190
for school.
Yeah, but a lot of schools were

672
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,320
saying we need this done because
it's old and it is falling

673
00:27:01,330 --> 00:27:02,470
apart.
It's crumbling, right?

674
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,970
Like you're not necessarily.
It's gonna fall in our.

675
00:27:03,980 --> 00:27:05,490
Head.
So it was kind of happening.

676
00:27:05,540 --> 00:27:08,200
It was always a problem.
But now in the last two weeks,

677
00:27:08,210 --> 00:27:10,430
it's been upgraded to critical,
do not go into the building.

678
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,530
So there's levels to this,
right.

679
00:27:11,540 --> 00:27:13,010
So there's always like, oh,
that's dodgy.

680
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:17,250
We need to get done.
Councils, schools and the

681
00:27:17,290 --> 00:27:20,230
Department for Education, the
civil service, were literally

682
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,480
saying, right, we need to double
if not triple it to get to all

683
00:27:22,490 --> 00:27:23,810
these schools that we need to
every year.

684
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,170
Rishi Sunak turned around and
said, no, also I'm having it.

685
00:27:27,220 --> 00:27:28,920
So it went down to 50 schools,
right.

686
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,510
So the overall point being that
this is a classic thing that the

687
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,630
government seemed to look at
stuff and say, OK, what can we

688
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,650
cut?
And it won't affect our look the

689
00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:41,320
outlook.
And this happened for 13 years.

690
00:27:41,330 --> 00:27:42,750
You know anything about it?
Yeah, Yeah.

691
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,810
You didn't have a clue.
Yeah.

692
00:27:43,820 --> 00:27:44,990
But everyone in the.
Civil service.

693
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,530
I do agree with that everyone.
Everyone in the schools are

694
00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:50,520
saying we need this money please
and the Conservatives say ohh

695
00:27:50,530 --> 00:27:52,000
austerity.
Don't be greedy like.

696
00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:54,150
Everything I've been doing, will
that make people vote for us?

697
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Yeah, no, exactly.
And now they're just doing like

698
00:27:57,330 --> 00:27:59,130
management control because it's
gone horribly wrong.

699
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,520
And the point someone was making
was after 13 years, you could no

700
00:28:02,530 --> 00:28:05,390
longer turn around and say, oh,
it was there, you've been in

701
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,140
charge of cut it for 13.
That's because it's still, is

702
00:28:08,150 --> 00:28:09,470
that still the narrative, isn't
it?

703
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,610
Yeah, any of you are
Conservative supporters

704
00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:13,280
listening.
You know the narrative and you

705
00:28:13,290 --> 00:28:15,590
know how much you hate Labour
because it's everything is their

706
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,010
fault.
Despite them not being in power

707
00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:18,880
for 13 years, you still fall for
it.

708
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,300
You still believe it.
And it's always been a long

709
00:28:21,310 --> 00:28:23,340
time, I think.
I do think now I'm wondering

710
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:25,570
what the people think out there.
Obviously teachers are

711
00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:28,570
notoriously more Labour voters,
The Conservative, there's a

712
00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:30,530
reason for that.
It's not because we're idiots,

713
00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:32,270
it's not because we are lefty
loons.

714
00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:34,480
It's because we work in an
establishment which has been

715
00:28:34,490 --> 00:28:38,060
squeezed 1013 years.
And what annoys me is, you know,

716
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:41,110
during COVID, a lot of people
put a lot of pressure on

717
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,230
educators and a lot of, you
know, you're failing our kids

718
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,790
closing these schools, that this
is, this is pathetic.

719
00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:49,470
Look what's happening now.
Because they, you pay your taxes

720
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,300
and you're like, oh, Can you
imagine paying your taxes,

721
00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:53,190
right.
You like 45, You got a kid who's

722
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,830
just missed two years because of
COVID, right.

723
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:58,550
And they're going into year 10,
Year 11, winding up.

724
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800
Just had a lovely six weeks off.
Could have got sorted in that

725
00:29:00,810 --> 00:29:02,320
six weeks.
It's almost like moving house

726
00:29:02,330 --> 00:29:03,560
last day.
Really annoying.

727
00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:04,870
You just had six weeks to sort
stuff.

728
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,810
Yeah.
Last day of Ohh by the way, you

729
00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:11,220
got close to school.
Is that why ohh he's might fall

730
00:29:11,230 --> 00:29:12,580
down?
Are the balls have got COVID.

731
00:29:15,290 --> 00:29:17,790
It's just if I'm a taxpayer,
which obviously I am but if I

732
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,950
had a kid I would be fuming that
this is announced the the day

733
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,300
before schools go back.
That's like COVID all over

734
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:26,020
again.
Ohh no schools are opening year.

735
00:29:26,030 --> 00:29:27,300
Opening.
Yeah, they're opening, They're

736
00:29:27,310 --> 00:29:28,470
opening, they're opening, it's
fine.

737
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,850
They're opening tomorrow.
They're opening.

738
00:29:29,860 --> 00:29:33,540
They're not.
Yeah, yeah COVID.

739
00:29:33,550 --> 00:29:36,060
Just just quick memory.
I just, I I still that was the

740
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:37,760
angriest I ever got.
Whole whole of COVID.

741
00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:41,770
That was my peak moment of
absolute rage was just after

742
00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:45,580
Christmas, in what would have
been 2020 or 2020, No 20.

743
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:48,160
Was the next 1/20/21 when second
lockdown?

744
00:29:48,850 --> 00:29:51,040
Yeah, that's right.
And it was maybe, I think it was

745
00:29:51,050 --> 00:29:53,650
the second one And it was was
adamant that schools gonna open.

746
00:29:53,740 --> 00:29:55,510
It was like Christmas.
It was the worst Christmas ever

747
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,250
for like spike of you know, the
infections going up.

748
00:29:58,340 --> 00:30:01,130
Terrible, terrible times.
Everyone unanimously agreed that

749
00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:03,280
it looked awful idea to open the
schools right now.

750
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,800
And yeah, scores me open
schools, be open.

751
00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:07,810
And then we did one day of
school, yeah.

752
00:30:07,850 --> 00:30:09,080
And then the school shut the
next day.

753
00:30:09,090 --> 00:30:12,430
And I was so livid, but we have
got stuff.

754
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,460
Ready to get everything spread
for one day and then we can

755
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:15,760
close it?
Yeah, just ohh yeah.

756
00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:17,280
That day was so completely
pointless.

757
00:30:17,290 --> 00:30:18,620
Think how many contacts they
were.

758
00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:20,480
I might be exaggerating now
right.

759
00:30:20,490 --> 00:30:23,860
But but genuinely people would
have died because of all them

760
00:30:23,870 --> 00:30:25,500
kids went into went into school
that day.

761
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:28,400
Yeah, for one day for nothing.
And then they said no.

762
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:32,700
That would have inevitably have
caused more of the spread and at

763
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:37,060
some point I deaf or two, even
one, because they couldn't face,

764
00:30:37,070 --> 00:30:38,420
they couldn't make the big
calls.

765
00:30:38,650 --> 00:30:40,720
Luckily it was the walls fell
down.

766
00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:43,330
So they blamed on, you know,
after all that.

767
00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:46,870
But yeah, I think for me it's
just a symptom of the last 10

768
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,070
years.
Can you think of anything,

769
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,120
anyone, this thing on you?
Can you think of anything since

770
00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:55,650
2010 that's got better?
Umm.

771
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,070
What?
Like our life?

772
00:30:57,140 --> 00:30:57,660
Yes.
No.

773
00:30:57,670 --> 00:30:59,610
Since 2010.
Like in general 2010.

774
00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:02,720
We're poorer.
Yeah, houses are more expensive

775
00:31:02,730 --> 00:31:05,320
than ever.
Interest rates to spiked and

776
00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:07,770
houses will only come down less
than interest has gone up.

777
00:31:07,810 --> 00:31:08,760
So we're gonna be better.
Off.

778
00:31:08,770 --> 00:31:10,380
Yeah, I never got down.
Wages have gone down.

779
00:31:10,390 --> 00:31:12,380
We just took a 6:00 PM pick up.
Hmm.

780
00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:15,550
When we took that thing, is
there anything in the public

781
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,830
life which is better now than 12
years ago?

782
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,170
It's stuff is generally cheaper.
Is it like, have you not been

783
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:23,150
watching inflation?
For us, well, compared to like

784
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,930
like the 80s and stuff like no,
I mean since 2010.

785
00:31:25,940 --> 00:31:28,890
Since 2010, has life got better?
Since 2010, it's all got more

786
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:29,810
time.
Yeah, it's a request.

787
00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:31,970
It's got worse.
And there's still people go, Oh

788
00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:33,300
well, it's all they could have
done.

789
00:31:33,310 --> 00:31:34,390
No, it's not.
Yeah.

790
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:37,210
Now what they do is you get
those old ladies from the table

791
00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:41,870
and crampons and now go.
Actually in the 70s the interest

792
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,610
rates went up to 50% and we
managed.

793
00:31:45,130 --> 00:31:48,890
So we do you mean the one in the
one income managed, you did work

794
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:52,770
and your house was worth 10
pence like?

795
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,270
Honestly, I'm not saying it
wasn't.

796
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,410
That was they were obviously
tough times because also stuff

797
00:31:57,420 --> 00:31:58,910
was more expensive.
But then like going out for a

798
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,010
meal at my grandad always and
it's always good.

799
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:02,890
Like comparison.
He was like, yeah, we never ever

800
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,510
we didn't go to a restaurant for
like 3 years because that sort

801
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,710
of thing was mega luxury.
So I get it.

802
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,800
So now they see our generation
going for avocados.

803
00:32:09,810 --> 00:32:10,710
Going out?
Yeah.

804
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,150
Going out for meals like 2-3
four times a month and they're

805
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,150
like, well, if they can afford
that, then things are fine,

806
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,450
yeah, they're not understanding
what the proportions and how

807
00:32:18,460 --> 00:32:20,390
things have changed in relation
to each other.

808
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,090
Like bills are dirt cheap now
compared to rent.

809
00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:25,310
And mortgages that Are you a
Tory?

810
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:26,660
Yeah.
OK, right.

811
00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:29,510
I'm not this is the term into
one of the Putnam joking.

812
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,700
But now it's just I think the
whole it's an absolute joke.

813
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:35,460
It's an absolute joke.
And it was all stemmed from.

814
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:37,790
Do you know what I'm not even
saying, by the way that it's the

815
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,080
conservatives fault that there
are there is concrete in this

816
00:32:41,090 --> 00:32:42,250
school from the 60s.
No.

817
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:45,570
But what I'm saying is this is
the systematic underfunding of

818
00:32:45,580 --> 00:32:48,350
people who are in the job in the
building saying this is not good

819
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,630
enough, this is falling apart
and then constantly saying ohh

820
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,690
well tough part with it.
Deal with it.

821
00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:55,980
Do it winds me up.
Just do it anyway.

822
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:58,260
So have you got any comments on
that have been affected by the

823
00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:00,120
Rack?
Luckily we didn't.

824
00:33:00,130 --> 00:33:02,100
Our children all in.
We're all safe.

825
00:33:02,250 --> 00:33:04,800
But if you've been affected by
it, well, let us know and we'll

826
00:33:04,810 --> 00:33:06,880
ask Jillian, Keegan and Richard.
Yeah, come on, because this is

827
00:33:06,890 --> 00:33:08,930
season two, baby.
If you disagree with us, let us

828
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:11,590
know as well, because you know
we're not afraid to to tell you

829
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,060
you're.
Wrong.

830
00:33:12,810 --> 00:33:13,950
He's not afraid to say you're
wrong.

831
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,160
I have an open mind.
I'm joking.

832
00:33:15,170 --> 00:33:19,410
It's just winds me up.
We're not asking for money for

833
00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:21,440
fun.
It's like the whole thing, the

834
00:33:21,450 --> 00:33:25,610
whole thing about in in schools
when they stop you printing, but

835
00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:27,040
they're actually school.
So like, no, I don't want

836
00:33:27,050 --> 00:33:27,980
anymore.
Yeah, yeah.

837
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:29,400
No, no, don't use anymore.
Sorry.

838
00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:31,600
I'm not printing myself.
Successful return.

839
00:33:31,670 --> 00:33:34,200
I'm printing the lesson that I
planned on the scheme that you

840
00:33:34,210 --> 00:33:36,240
told me to.
Do printing in schools is a

841
00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:37,580
touchy subject for a lot of
people.

842
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:40,400
I'm just gonna say it right now.
I've never worked in a school

843
00:33:40,750 --> 00:33:42,400
where it's just an easy thing to
do.

844
00:33:42,790 --> 00:33:43,940
No one.
I've never known anyone to get

845
00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:45,560
it right.
There's no school that's just

846
00:33:45,570 --> 00:33:48,950
about got it right.
Because it's essential.

847
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,990
It's a weird one, isn't it?
Like I always say.

848
00:33:51,260 --> 00:33:54,390
I always say I've gone off on
printing now and it's such a

849
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,900
menial thing, but I'm gonna talk
about it.

850
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,810
I'm never, ever, ever printing
anything ever at school.

851
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,530
That is, like, for my own
personal gain.

852
00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:05,190
For me, I don't also really
care.

853
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,239
Like the book policy, the way
the books look, is set by the

854
00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:09,310
school.
I'm not in charge of that.

855
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,010
Exactly.
I follow the policy, but I don't

856
00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:13,210
really care.
Like, truly, deep down, I don't

857
00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:15,570
really care.
Like if if a child does lays out

858
00:34:15,580 --> 00:34:17,300
one thing one way or a different
way, that's just the school

859
00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:18,630
policy.
I'll just follow it if the

860
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,750
policy is, Oh yeah, we do.
Seats for all this.

861
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:21,980
They need to be stuck in this
way.

862
00:34:21,989 --> 00:34:24,159
You can't fold them.
Or you can fold them.

863
00:34:24,210 --> 00:34:26,020
Whatever.
I'll just do that thing.

864
00:34:26,170 --> 00:34:29,080
But as soon as it's ohh well,
you've printed too much.

865
00:34:29,090 --> 00:34:32,340
You've run out of paper now.
As if it's like the burdens on I

866
00:34:32,350 --> 00:34:34,420
don't.
Your books will look rubbish.

867
00:34:34,469 --> 00:34:36,190
I don't care.
Now there you go.

868
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:37,679
There's your books because
there's no paper.

869
00:34:37,690 --> 00:34:39,860
I don't care.
I bet there's someone out there

870
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:42,820
who has had to not print stuff
because there's no paper left.

871
00:34:42,830 --> 00:34:44,280
And I've been told, well there's
no paper.

872
00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:47,210
Does my paper left?
And then next week.

873
00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:49,080
But we just took a bit.
Why did you book?

874
00:34:49,090 --> 00:34:52,719
Where's your challenge sheet?
Umm, what do you mean?

875
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:54,199
Ohh.
God, frustrating.

876
00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:56,270
Because yeah.
And you don't want more than

877
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,070
anything genuinely is when these
things happen or whatever

878
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,030
reason, you know, there's no ink
because we can't afford the ink.

879
00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:04,680
It all comes from the top down,
all comes from funding because

880
00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:07,740
the same reason that we're not
printing stuff for our own game.

881
00:35:07,870 --> 00:35:10,660
People in charge of the school
aren't saying no because they

882
00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:12,710
are just being frugal.
They haven't got the money.

883
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,890
To do it Inc is ludicrously
expensive as well.

884
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:16,440
One of those really interesting
we were getting.

885
00:35:16,510 --> 00:35:18,650
Now, but it's just on the
surface.

886
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:23,590
Ink is one of those, like really
analysed industries, yeah, where

887
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,450
it's still so expensive and they
make so much money from selling

888
00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:29,570
ink like companies, there
doesn't seem to be like a good

889
00:35:29,580 --> 00:35:31,460
alternative.
I think the one thing we can

890
00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:34,220
take control of though is just
consistency then because policy

891
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:36,210
has to change.
If you're going to be in a

892
00:35:36,220 --> 00:35:39,390
school where you have to cut
down your printing, you have to

893
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,150
change your policy then.
Because the one thing that winds

894
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,210
me up as a teacher and a lot of
people have said this is when

895
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:47,000
you spend hours planning
something that involves creating

896
00:35:47,010 --> 00:35:50,070
sheets often and creating tasks,
If you're creating those

897
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,930
specifically on paper because
the children need them on paper

898
00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:56,290
and then you're told, by the
way, no, you can't do that, I

899
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:57,370
wouldn't have spent hours doing
it.

900
00:35:57,420 --> 00:35:59,530
Yeah.
So it's kind of disrespecting my

901
00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:01,700
time outside.
It's insulting to say, oh, by

902
00:36:01,710 --> 00:36:03,850
the way, no paper, do it a
different way.

903
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,620
What?
No, because.

904
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:08,110
I spent an hour planning this
one lesson and if you want me to

905
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,230
do it like this then get more
inking.

906
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,820
Get more paper in or don't but
tell me beforehand.

907
00:36:12,830 --> 00:36:14,380
Don't tell me after I spent
hours doing it.

908
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,800
Yeah, So if you've got a school
that's got it right, I'd love to

909
00:36:16,810 --> 00:36:18,430
hear it, because I'd love to
know what.

910
00:36:18,850 --> 00:36:22,740
What the right way of doing?
Printing is in a school because

911
00:36:22,750 --> 00:36:25,050
I've never seen it and I've
never heard of it unless it's

912
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:28,820
better actually, economically.
Financially, he like eco.

913
00:36:28,830 --> 00:36:31,090
And I quite like black and white
policies like, yeah, OK, it

914
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:34,790
might not look as nice, but I do
think if it saves a lot of money

915
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,420
colouring is way more expensive
than yeah, just print black and

916
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:37,750
white.
Why?

917
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,310
I'm getting their last seen on
now, aren't I?

918
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520
It's very hot in here.
It's like a solid 60.

919
00:36:42,530 --> 00:36:43,550
Anyone.
Anyone.

920
00:36:44,460 --> 00:36:47,110
Anyone watching the podcast is
looking right treat you right

921
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,640
now.
Yeah, yeah, Sweat.

922
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:51,620
Way more than it.
Hairy man mate, hairy man.

923
00:36:51,630 --> 00:36:53,580
Like a Sheen on my head.
Yeah.

924
00:36:53,590 --> 00:36:56,130
But anyway, season one back with
Bang Political, which a lot of

925
00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:58,560
people said ohh don't go on and
on about the political stuff.

926
00:36:58,570 --> 00:36:59,840
Hmm.
But we just did.

927
00:36:59,890 --> 00:37:01,980
So sorry everyone.
Yeah, so welcome back to season

928
00:37:01,990 --> 00:37:03,200
one.
To season one.

929
00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:06,020
Maybe should we do another quick
single and have a look around

930
00:37:06,030 --> 00:37:09,440
the room?
And then really, well, mikes,

931
00:37:09,450 --> 00:37:12,020
Really well.
Whoa, whoa.

932
00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:14,300
Swapping Mike.
Well, smell smells like there.

933
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,050
Ant and Dec have to be.
Ant and Dec No, no, no, no

934
00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:23,250
Quality of our.
Land, you know, it's just like

935
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,850
never.
I mean, it's wrong when they're

936
00:37:25,860 --> 00:37:26,570
the other way.
Round.

937
00:37:26,580 --> 00:37:29,850
No, you're man woman where you
can stick around for the

938
00:37:30,260 --> 00:37:32,810
podcast.
We're gonna do a little, yeah,

939
00:37:32,820 --> 00:37:33,820
little Chico.
Mates.

940
00:37:34,030 --> 00:37:36,360
Who are you?
Ohh I'm I'm, I'm still.

941
00:37:36,370 --> 00:37:40,830
Tell me what I'm alright,
alright, alright.

942
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,620
Play the jungle Norman.
Bye.

943
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,040
Hi guys.
Welcome back.

944
00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:52,560
We are.
What is funny is it's just

945
00:37:52,570 --> 00:37:53,780
airing.
I think this is the worst

946
00:37:53,790 --> 00:37:56,720
decision we've ever made to the
podcast in this heat in the

947
00:37:56,730 --> 00:37:57,200
same.
Room.

948
00:37:57,210 --> 00:37:59,900
There isn't one next week.
This is what's happened.

949
00:38:00,110 --> 00:38:03,230
Guarantee you Dylan will pester
me to do it because he he's way

950
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,000
more like he'll do it under any
circumstance.

951
00:38:05,330 --> 00:38:07,550
And I will be.
I will convince him this is a

952
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,650
terrible idea.
So we'll see about that.

953
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:11,180
We're going to be next week
anyway.

954
00:38:11,250 --> 00:38:13,700
We got a couple of things
written in, might be slightly

955
00:38:13,710 --> 00:38:17,230
shorter one this week just as we
get back into it because I feel

956
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:18,800
like I need to go and jump in
the seat, yes.

957
00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:21,650
So let's crack on Hayden.
Ohh, don't touch me.

958
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:24,450
Thank you, Hayden.
Yeah.

959
00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:26,230
Don't let anyone touched I'm
taking over.

960
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:30,040
So I saw this online and I just
had to include it in this in

961
00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:31,730
this podcast episode because I
thought would be a good

962
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:34,830
conversation starter.
So here is from an anonymous,

963
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:39,530
anonymous and anonymous and
anonymous.

964
00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:43,000
It's all right, I've just
started a new school.

965
00:38:43,090 --> 00:38:44,990
I'm absolutely baffled by the
behaviour system.

966
00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:48,790
No, it involves giving 2
warnings, a seat move and then

967
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,200
removing a student from the
classroom.

968
00:38:50,590 --> 00:38:52,480
Pretty classic like that.
That does happen a lot.

969
00:38:53,530 --> 00:38:55,960
After the student is exited from
the classroom, it's up to the

970
00:38:55,970 --> 00:38:59,390
classroom teacher then to ring
the parents so that I think this

971
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,530
is the bit they're a bit like
ohh about and doing after school

972
00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:06,350
detention, which is this.
I mean this could be a secondary

973
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,900
school teacher.
To be fair, I don't know is is

974
00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:09,910
is.
Okay Primary school would be a

975
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,170
bit strange, but anyway, you got
to do an article detention and

976
00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:13,560
you've got to ring the parents
and explain why.

977
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:16,790
And this person is basically
just saying, although you know

978
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,690
I'll follow the the policy, I do
feel like I'm being massively

979
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:22,710
punished if I actually do the
policy properly because

980
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:26,480
obviously kids will get excited
and if you exit then you've then

981
00:39:26,490 --> 00:39:29,020
got to do loads of work.
So I can imagine there'll be

982
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:30,970
lots of stuff that would just
not follow the policy so they

983
00:39:30,980 --> 00:39:32,910
don't have to do the work and
then behaviour is not that good.

984
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,270
Well, it says there they did 6
exits in one day, which was an

985
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,450
hour on the phone after school.
So if I was that person, I

986
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:42,070
wouldn't have exits.
I would even not do exits.

987
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,550
Or I would do exits and not
phone home and then I'd get in

988
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,120
trouble and it's just fun home.
Yeah, no access.

989
00:39:48,910 --> 00:39:50,500
Take the worst bit, do all the.
Work.

990
00:39:50,510 --> 00:39:52,360
It's true, though, I wouldn't.
I generally I'm telling you

991
00:39:52,370 --> 00:39:55,230
right now, I would not do my job
properly on purpose because I'll

992
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:56,260
be like that.
It's ridiculous.

993
00:39:57,730 --> 00:40:02,830
Our unpaid or go home and not
get paid as well our unpaid.

994
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,010
Everyday just you've had the
best behaviour all year of

995
00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:10,390
anyone you know anyone as well
done, you got promotion, get

996
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,090
more money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

997
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,320
You didn't have to access
single.

998
00:40:13,330 --> 00:40:15,540
How did you do it?
How do you do kids running riot

999
00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:18,060
like ohh you know I've just got
the magic touch you've gotta

1000
00:40:18,070 --> 00:40:19,430
build.
Isn't it annoying when people

1001
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,700
when you say that someone how
you how you doing it and they

1002
00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:24,400
just go, I know we've said it,
but you're just gonna have to

1003
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:26,300
build a relationship with them.
Yeah.

1004
00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:29,150
OK.
Thank you, Sherlock.

1005
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,850
Thanks for that information.
Yeah, I.

1006
00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:32,690
Know that I don't want to build
on.

1007
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,660
What did you do differently?
Now?

1008
00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:40,360
For me, that is pure punishment
and like I say it's not part of

1009
00:40:40,370 --> 00:40:41,330
directed time.
Hmm.

1010
00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:43,780
Remotely.
So the the people in charge of

1011
00:40:43,790 --> 00:40:46,220
just post this it.
Did you not read the post

1012
00:40:46,740 --> 00:40:48,660
doesn't say, Oh yeah, not part
of the time.

1013
00:40:48,670 --> 00:40:51,000
You think, honestly I'm watching
him do this and I can see why

1014
00:40:51,010 --> 00:40:53,530
the podcast goes the way it does
sometimes because he missed out

1015
00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:55,300
three sentences.
I've got his screen here so I

1016
00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:57,430
don't normally see this.
Missed out three sentences, two

1017
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,850
of the main points and then said
something completely different.

1018
00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:02,020
So we can see for now you just
makes things up.

1019
00:41:02,030 --> 00:41:06,430
So that could be part of
director time, might be.

1020
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,150
There we go.
This is actually across each of

1021
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,160
the attention is not part of
director time either, so.

1022
00:41:12,210 --> 00:41:14,360
Surely this isn't right.
Yeah, surely it's not.

1023
00:41:14,410 --> 00:41:16,550
It's not.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate

1024
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,200
slightly here because we get a
lot of stuff from this kind of

1025
00:41:19,250 --> 00:41:23,660
person, but I did see a post
this week and my first thought

1026
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:26,800
was probably a bit horrible.
I want to see what you think it

1027
00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:31,520
was a post of someone who.
It's not funny.

1028
00:41:32,010 --> 00:41:34,350
It's a bit funny.
Had taken a picture of

1029
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,470
themselves underneath a desk.
Posted it onto a group on

1030
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,610
Facebook.
Hmm.

1031
00:41:39,660 --> 00:41:42,780
Saying that they've had an awful
day at work, which I get, but

1032
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:44,730
they've took a picture of
themselves under the desk and

1033
00:41:44,740 --> 00:41:46,950
post it online and said I'm
crying under a desk.

1034
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,520
So my point is, I'm not laughing
at the fact that crying under a

1035
00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:53,150
desk, right.
But there's that mean going

1036
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,440
around at the minute of the girl
and it's saying I'm going

1037
00:41:55,450 --> 00:41:57,140
through the worst breakup I've
ever experienced.

1038
00:41:57,150 --> 00:41:59,720
And she set up a camera and
she's on the bed going, yeah.

1039
00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:02,580
And it's like the joking.
I think that's probably why

1040
00:42:02,590 --> 00:42:05,010
you've latched onto this one,
because of that mean.

1041
00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:07,320
Yeah.
OK, I was crying under a desk

1042
00:42:07,330 --> 00:42:08,840
because I hated teaching that
much.

1043
00:42:08,890 --> 00:42:10,600
I don't think I'd get my phone
out and take a picture.

1044
00:42:10,650 --> 00:42:12,560
No, that's that's it.
I think I might do a POST.

1045
00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:13,840
You've explained it yourself,
yeah?

1046
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:15,780
You've basically you've
explained exactly why you found

1047
00:42:15,790 --> 00:42:17,660
that a bit strange, yeah?
Because you wouldn't do it.

1048
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:19,330
And even would I?
Yeah, I wouldn't.

1049
00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:20,280
I wouldn't.
I'm one of those.

1050
00:42:20,290 --> 00:42:21,940
I will deal with it silently.
I'm one of those.

1051
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,920
I'm not saying if I'm that upset
with my phone, yeah.

1052
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:31,470
Got a picture of me under the
day I was just under there?

1053
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Someone in the back.
Maybe I'm being horribly cynical

1054
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:35,350
and people will hate me for
that, but it sounds like my

1055
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,080
honest.
It's my honest opinion of, yeah,

1056
00:42:37,810 --> 00:42:39,640
take a picture of that.
Yeah, yeah.

1057
00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:40,750
It doesn't make me not want to
help them.

1058
00:42:41,450 --> 00:42:43,140
No it doesn't.
But I'm just sort of.

1059
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:45,980
Yeah of course and and the
situation doesn't change and I

1060
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:48,140
still feel sorry for them and I
still wanna help them find

1061
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:50,530
solutions.
But you didn't have to pay the

1062
00:42:50,540 --> 00:42:53,090
venture requiring under a desk.
Yeah so strange.

1063
00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:55,200
But maybe strange people are
different on we've got to

1064
00:42:55,210 --> 00:42:57,820
realise that me and you are
very, very like minded in

1065
00:42:57,830 --> 00:42:59,920
certain things and then when
people do things anything

1066
00:42:59,930 --> 00:43:03,040
different, like why didn't that?
But also I think in today's

1067
00:43:03,050 --> 00:43:05,140
society sometimes people are
scared just to say when they

1068
00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:07,680
think things are a bit odd.
Like anyone saying that on the

1069
00:43:07,690 --> 00:43:10,020
post would have been absolutely
jumped on and made to feel

1070
00:43:10,030 --> 00:43:11,000
terrible.
And I get it.

1071
00:43:11,010 --> 00:43:12,960
I would never post that either.
I don't want to make that person

1072
00:43:12,970 --> 00:43:13,300
feel.
Sick.

1073
00:43:13,310 --> 00:43:14,640
And also it's not the time and
place.

1074
00:43:14,650 --> 00:43:17,040
Yeah, I don't wanna do the post,
despite what you think of how

1075
00:43:17,050 --> 00:43:18,660
she did it.
It's actually not the time place

1076
00:43:18,670 --> 00:43:20,820
to say yeah, this is.
Did you need to do this a

1077
00:43:20,830 --> 00:43:23,920
podcast out to everyone instead?
Yeah, no, but I agree.

1078
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:25,680
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
We just talk about the situation

1079
00:43:25,690 --> 00:43:27,530
now.
Yeah, if you put that you

1080
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:29,970
commented on, that would be I
would have messaged me like just

1081
00:43:29,980 --> 00:43:31,490
delete that.
You're being ridiculous.

1082
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:32,980
It's because normally I'm gonna
message due to.

1083
00:43:32,990 --> 00:43:37,560
Delete stuff online and I
usually say no, Hayden, don't

1084
00:43:37,570 --> 00:43:39,310
say that.
Can you please delete this post?

1085
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,140
It's only had one interaction
and now we look like we don't

1086
00:43:41,150 --> 00:43:42,540
have anyone looking at our
staff.

1087
00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:45,100
Honestly.
Yeah, over it.

1088
00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:46,450
We might notice another cut
there.

1089
00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:48,300
Hmm.
Because the doorbell went off.

1090
00:43:48,370 --> 00:43:50,570
So, you know, no one else to
help us out here.

1091
00:43:50,580 --> 00:43:52,260
It's just us two.
So we had to right now.

1092
00:43:52,270 --> 00:43:54,880
No, but that was nice to get
some fresh air.

1093
00:43:55,490 --> 00:43:57,520
Hayden came back upstairs and I
was sat in his bath.

1094
00:44:00,150 --> 00:44:03,570
There's an ogre in the bath.
I'll tell the kids.

1095
00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:06,050
That'll be our descriptive
writing prompt next week.

1096
00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:08,760
There's an ogre in the bath.
What could it be?

1097
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:12,480
Ohh.
Anyway, So yeah, in terms of

1098
00:44:12,490 --> 00:44:16,850
that story, I think just how
many times we said this is not

1099
00:44:16,860 --> 00:44:18,840
gonna change, Are we gonna keep
moaning about it?

1100
00:44:18,910 --> 00:44:22,780
But this proper, consistent, top
down disregard for our time.

1101
00:44:22,830 --> 00:44:24,250
And I'm just gonna finish with
this thought.

1102
00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:28,510
Hey, I wonder what you think.
We spent last year striking for

1103
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,480
two reasons.
One for pay, one for workload,

1104
00:44:30,490 --> 00:44:32,680
right?
OK, the strikes are over now.

1105
00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:35,000
Workloads more than ever.
And we've got a 6% pay cut.

1106
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,850
Does that sound successful?
To you it sounds more successful

1107
00:44:39,860 --> 00:44:42,310
than what would happen, which is
workload would be exactly the

1108
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,630
same and would have a 12%
backup.

1109
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,490
Yeah, that's the reality of no,
we would have had a nine percent

1110
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:48,530
pay cut. 9 Because they were
offering free.

1111
00:44:48,540 --> 00:44:51,290
OK, they wouldn't.
So realistically, we went from a

1112
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,270
nine percent pay cut to a 6% pay
cut and workload hasn't remotely

1113
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,510
changed.
Do you think that the reason we

1114
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,330
got to strike action was because
it was horrific?

1115
00:44:58,340 --> 00:45:02,220
That small amount is not a win.
I want the unions to do more and

1116
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:03,630
I'll be interested to see what
they say.

1117
00:45:03,780 --> 00:45:06,800
We lost so much money, guys put
money into the system.

1118
00:45:06,810 --> 00:45:09,350
We've got our homes.
Ohh no no homes.

1119
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,420
But sometime probably our public
buildings.

1120
00:45:12,590 --> 00:45:15,820
You can't go in them, you can't
go into school because they

1121
00:45:15,830 --> 00:45:17,600
don't put the money in
preemptively.

1122
00:45:17,610 --> 00:45:19,720
Everything is a sticker, like a
Band-Aid.

1123
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:23,150
All that's going on.
This is what I mean when I say

1124
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,570
ever since 2010 has anything or
better?

1125
00:45:24,580 --> 00:45:26,050
Has anything proactively got
better?

1126
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:28,470
But you know what?
We're going to invest in this.

1127
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,210
I can just imagine, like all the
politicians just sat around, you

1128
00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:34,740
know, all the politicians, the
BLOB, the the Tories.

1129
00:45:34,750 --> 00:45:38,920
Just like, should we, should we
fix the schools falling down and

1130
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:41,620
someone else?
Like, should we say we're going

1131
00:45:41,630 --> 00:45:43,030
to do it just before the next
election?

1132
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:46,080
Whoa.
Whoa.

1133
00:45:46,090 --> 00:45:46,960
It doesn't matter.
We do not.

1134
00:45:46,970 --> 00:45:48,010
Because if we lose, we won't do
it.

1135
00:45:48,020 --> 00:45:49,950
And if we if we win, we'll just
put it off for another four

1136
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,480
years.
Honestly, honestly, we are in a

1137
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:55,820
dire situation anyway.
We're gonna move on.

1138
00:45:55,830 --> 00:46:00,460
So I had someone texting to me,
well not text message online

1139
00:46:00,650 --> 00:46:03,260
into me because I did the
socials, obviously this guy.

1140
00:46:03,730 --> 00:46:08,080
Anyway, so on Instagram and it
was like it felt like they were

1141
00:46:08,090 --> 00:46:09,780
venting.
OK, felt they were already

1142
00:46:09,790 --> 00:46:11,120
venting.
And I did feel a bit sorry for

1143
00:46:11,130 --> 00:46:12,840
them.
But I think what I like is they

1144
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:16,290
can just use for that event.
OK, so they're venting and I

1145
00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:18,910
thought I'd summarise the points
they made and just put it out

1146
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,570
there to just show people, I
think, especially those who

1147
00:46:21,580 --> 00:46:24,790
don't work in a school.
Like, I can imagine sometimes

1148
00:46:24,860 --> 00:46:26,950
any of us moaning in the first
week back if I wasn't in the

1149
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,390
school ever be like, are you
joking?

1150
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,950
Yeah, you've just been up.
Joking.

1151
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,020
Anyway, that's true.
Here we go, We're not even a

1152
00:46:34,030 --> 00:46:37,860
four week back and we've already
had emails to an e-mail received

1153
00:46:38,050 --> 00:46:40,240
to tell us and now I've just put
them into bullet points.

1154
00:46:40,250 --> 00:46:42,800
What she said.
OK, so number one, too many

1155
00:46:42,810 --> 00:46:44,170
teachers are sat down in lesson
time.

1156
00:46:45,330 --> 00:46:46,880
Do you wanna join?
React one at a time when you

1157
00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:47,990
hear all of them.
God, I don't know.

1158
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,650
How many are there?
There's four.

1159
00:46:49,660 --> 00:46:51,980
So maybe you want a time?
Alright, OK, so too many

1160
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:54,080
teachers are sat down.
Unless this is 3 days in.

1161
00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,120
Too many teachers are sat down
in lesson time.

1162
00:46:56,190 --> 00:47:00,270
OK, I worked in a school once.
That where this became a

1163
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,690
problem, apparently as well, And
it was like 50% of the reason I

1164
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:06,730
left because it was so
unbelievably, condescendingly

1165
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:09,360
ridiculous to me.
This idea that me sat down at

1166
00:47:09,370 --> 00:47:12,550
any point, because I've chosen
to sat down for whatever reason

1167
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,370
that could be, was an inherently
a bad thing.

1168
00:47:15,380 --> 00:47:18,090
I couldn't believe it.
So that grinds my gears.

1169
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:19,270
Do you know what I mean?
Isn't it?

1170
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,300
They're walking around looking
for.

1171
00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:22,970
It yeah, Ohh, God, that's what
that means.

1172
00:47:23,010 --> 00:47:24,950
No, no one's just got, they've
got walk around and be like

1173
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,410
going.
For The thing is though, is I

1174
00:47:26,420 --> 00:47:29,420
don't even disagree that the
idea of if there was a teacher.

1175
00:47:29,730 --> 00:47:32,240
Sat down for my entire maths
lesson.

1176
00:47:32,310 --> 00:47:36,240
It would not be as good as a
maths lesson as me not sat down.

1177
00:47:36,250 --> 00:47:38,800
So it is a factor to being a
good teacher.

1178
00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:40,700
There is, there is that.
But you can still deliver a

1179
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:42,590
really good maths test and even
sat down the whole time.

1180
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,660
There are people with chronic
like illnesses and pain who have

1181
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:48,070
to sit down, who can be
fantastic teachers like from

1182
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,360
from our point of view, the way
we teach.

1183
00:47:49,370 --> 00:47:52,280
I know what you mean because
part of my teaching act is that

1184
00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:55,200
I'm walking around the room make
trying to get around to them,

1185
00:47:55,250 --> 00:47:58,400
trying to put this together on
that's like my teaching style.

1186
00:47:58,450 --> 00:48:01,000
There's also another teaching
style which is extremely arm

1187
00:48:01,070 --> 00:48:03,580
well explained.
Talking to them, talking to you,

1188
00:48:03,590 --> 00:48:05,800
then getting on, which they get
just as much out of.

1189
00:48:06,270 --> 00:48:09,260
So winds me up when I think.
What winds me up is blanket

1190
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:11,640
statements.
I've heard of schools before who

1191
00:48:11,650 --> 00:48:15,360
literally tell their staff this
is what a lesson has to look

1192
00:48:15,370 --> 00:48:17,710
like, always.
And consistency is important in

1193
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,510
a score.
But when it's like you must

1194
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,120
spend autonomy.
Yeah, yeah, you must spend

1195
00:48:23,130 --> 00:48:24,220
autonomy when you can do what
you want.

1196
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:26,040
I know, OK.
They're getting rid of it.

1197
00:48:26,850 --> 00:48:29,040
None of that.
But they're so obsessed with

1198
00:48:29,150 --> 00:48:33,010
down to there's this one school
where if you didn't have a a

1199
00:48:33,020 --> 00:48:35,850
timer on a certain slide then
it'd be like it would be a

1200
00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:37,390
problem.
It'll be like it would be as if

1201
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,920
you could just get up and also
as if you can't just manage your

1202
00:48:39,930 --> 00:48:41,170
own time as an experienced
teacher.

1203
00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:41,630
Yeah.
Yeah.

1204
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,090
What?
There's no time to tell me when.

1205
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:44,210
30 seconds.
All the time.

1206
00:48:44,220 --> 00:48:46,880
I'll whip up a timer when I when
I need it because in that moment

1207
00:48:46,890 --> 00:48:49,690
I've made a decision as a as an
educator that will be.

1208
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:52,420
And how how often have you
thought I'll give them this long

1209
00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:55,000
on this task and then very
quickly realise they don't need

1210
00:48:55,010 --> 00:48:57,200
that long because you're a
teacher doing your job and going

1211
00:48:57,210 --> 00:48:59,270
oh actually no.
OK guys, 30 seconds from now.

1212
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,570
And you just gave them no.
So we're all finished.

1213
00:49:03,580 --> 00:49:06,880
Hmm, 10 minutes left on there.
We were told we had to put a

1214
00:49:06,890 --> 00:49:10,760
time here, children, and this is
good learning from the head of

1215
00:49:10,770 --> 00:49:13,820
school Department of Education
who we've made-up a new role for

1216
00:49:13,830 --> 00:49:15,900
in the mat, who's in charge of
seven schools and does nothing

1217
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:18,120
apart from ground to everyone.
What to do is actually teaching

1218
00:49:18,830 --> 00:49:24,460
honest to God. 7 minutes back to
chairs though I have no problem

1219
00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:29,210
with a school saying.
Are recognising that you know

1220
00:49:29,220 --> 00:49:31,270
you're likely to have a better
impact on the car.

1221
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,100
So if you can get up and around
every now and then and that's

1222
00:49:33,110 --> 00:49:34,750
just their advice.
They just saying if you can you

1223
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,770
know try not to sit down too
much about cool, Thank you,

1224
00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:39,270
that's good advice.
I have a massive problem with

1225
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,620
the school saying we understand
that people sat down for the

1226
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:44,770
whole lesson is really bad.
So just to make sure that you

1227
00:49:44,780 --> 00:49:46,410
don't do it, we're taking away
your chest.

1228
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,230
That's when I can't believe that
happened.

1229
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,330
I'm sorry, I'm going back to it
now.

1230
00:49:50,540 --> 00:49:52,000
I can't believe that.
Happened.

1231
00:49:52,010 --> 00:49:54,570
It's happened in loads of
schools and like it was a fad a

1232
00:49:54,580 --> 00:49:56,230
few years ago and they got rid
of.

1233
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:59,880
Desks.
I did one year and I had no

1234
00:49:59,890 --> 00:50:03,100
teacher desk and no teacher
chair, and I thought it was so

1235
00:50:03,110 --> 00:50:05,560
embarrassingly condescending
that I quit within like 3

1236
00:50:05,570 --> 00:50:07,100
months.
Sorry, you got one of the tiny

1237
00:50:07,110 --> 00:50:08,220
little chairs for the children.
So.

1238
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The worst neckache I've ever

1239
00:50:10,570 --> 00:50:12,260
had.
Yeah, actually, sit down with

1240
00:50:12,270 --> 00:50:12,760
your bad.
Words.

1241
00:50:12,770 --> 00:50:16,050
Remember complaining so much.
I like to sit on a kids chair

1242
00:50:16,060 --> 00:50:18,240
and a kid's desk to do all my
marking for three hours a day.

1243
00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:20,580
I think there's a lot of schools
now where there are way too many

1244
00:50:20,590 --> 00:50:23,120
people in made-up positions out
of the classroom who think they

1245
00:50:23,130 --> 00:50:25,120
know best.
Forget what it's like being in a

1246
00:50:25,130 --> 00:50:26,900
classroom.
You quite have some autonomy.

1247
00:50:26,970 --> 00:50:29,390
Trust your staff.
Don't be an idiot, my brother.

1248
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:36,720
Anyway, that's one quarter.
We haven't, uh sorry to tell us.

1249
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:38,480
We haven't read of all of the
children yet.

1250
00:50:39,490 --> 00:50:41,520
Up to three days.
You haven't read days.

1251
00:50:41,530 --> 00:50:44,050
Yes, in the first time.
Oh no.

1252
00:50:44,060 --> 00:50:46,020
It's a lot of people have gone
home with their reading records

1253
00:50:46,030 --> 00:50:49,120
with no adult signature.
And yet by the way in here

1254
00:50:49,180 --> 00:50:50,310
there's no built in time for
this.

1255
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,980
By the way the classic classic
just can you read all the kids

1256
00:50:53,530 --> 00:50:55,950
when sorry, 32 of them, 32 of
them.

1257
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:57,810
Either you read of each kid for
two minutes.

1258
00:50:57,820 --> 00:50:59,880
Which, by the way, is nothing
like.

1259
00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:02,000
It's almost.
It's not pointless, but you need

1260
00:51:02,010 --> 00:51:03,460
to read for. 5 minutes?
5 minutes?

1261
00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:06,450
If you read with a kid for two
minutes, that would take you one

1262
00:51:06,460 --> 00:51:07,510
hour.
Hmm.

1263
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,390
Where we find in one hour in the
three table for two minutes in

1264
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,630
three days.
That's like for two minutes as

1265
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,770
well.
Oh my God.

1266
00:51:13,820 --> 00:51:15,020
What?
What?

1267
00:51:15,140 --> 00:51:16,850
Yeah, insane isn't that?
Isn't that.

1268
00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:18,830
That is true in schools.
Again, everyone works in the

1269
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,360
school.
Maybe you've got parents and

1270
00:51:20,370 --> 00:51:22,970
there's probably parents this
thing, right, who think I've

1271
00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:25,670
actually been annoyed before
because I've got like 2 weeks

1272
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:28,630
and my kids not being read to
and I think in reception and

1273
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,650
year one you're learning to
read.

1274
00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:31,970
So actually, yeah, you.
Should be more.

1275
00:51:31,980 --> 00:51:34,690
It's probably it's part of the
lesson exactly.

1276
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:40,260
In a Junior School we do not
have time to sit explicitly and

1277
00:51:40,270 --> 00:51:44,840
read with individual child one
to one on the timetable, so all

1278
00:51:44,850 --> 00:51:46,450
the time it's just not
consistent enough.

1279
00:51:46,460 --> 00:51:48,360
There'll be pockets of time.
Squeeze it in you can.

1280
00:51:48,410 --> 00:51:51,260
Yeah, but yeah, certainly not.
So to pull that up after three

1281
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:56,400
days, if sorry, if if if no
child was read to in three days,

1282
00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:59,040
I'd I'd be like, cool, OK,
settle in.

1283
00:51:59,170 --> 00:52:00,780
You know get your kids a proper
book.

1284
00:52:00,790 --> 00:52:02,300
They like, sort that out, you
know.

1285
00:52:02,310 --> 00:52:05,140
Get them into the routines,
embed them and encourage reading

1286
00:52:05,150 --> 00:52:07,160
at home.
I think sometimes the teacher,

1287
00:52:07,170 --> 00:52:10,640
do you not think we need to say
and pass on, That's

1288
00:52:10,650 --> 00:52:12,220
responsibility at home, at some.
Point I agree.

1289
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:13,790
I agree.
My current head has got a nice

1290
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,390
little system which helps me,
especially someone because

1291
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,360
there's a million things you do.
Just forget stuff, especially

1292
00:52:18,370 --> 00:52:21,000
little things like that.
And it just gave me a clipboard

1293
00:52:21,010 --> 00:52:24,260
with a list of just a group of
kids that will change next time

1294
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,520
and it's just every week.
Just make sure in the morning we

1295
00:52:27,530 --> 00:52:29,840
do have a little bit of time
talking like 10 minutes, 15

1296
00:52:29,850 --> 00:52:31,780
minutes.
Try and get one of these red,

1297
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:34,660
one of them reads you a day and
take them off the list and you

1298
00:52:34,670 --> 00:52:37,050
can just keep keep track of who
you've read with.

1299
00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:39,990
I was like, that's nice because
I can manage that and I'll do

1300
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,480
it.
And over the course of a term.

1301
00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:44,260
I will have listened to all the
children read a couple of times

1302
00:52:44,270 --> 00:52:45,930
and it's built in.
Yeah, it's built in.

1303
00:52:45,940 --> 00:52:47,950
Yeah.
It's a policy that makes sense

1304
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,210
to me.
No one's gonna be caught out

1305
00:52:49,220 --> 00:52:51,140
cold from that.
So what do you mean?

1306
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:53,070
Yeah, if you haven't done it,
it's sort of like, what were you

1307
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,350
doing that?
Because you do that, you did

1308
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,330
actually have that time.
And I think, I don't want people

1309
00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:59,090
to think that we're afraid of or
scared of responsibility or

1310
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:01,060
being asked to do stuff.
That's not it.

1311
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,210
It's when you're 3 days in and
you're like this thing that

1312
00:53:03,220 --> 00:53:05,000
we've not mentioned once, by the
way, and it's seven other things

1313
00:53:05,010 --> 00:53:06,010
you got to remember.
And there's.

1314
00:53:06,020 --> 00:53:08,250
No time to do this.
Yeah, the idea anyway.

1315
00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:09,830
Next one.
Our lesson.

1316
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,190
Slides aren't up to scratch.
This was the one for me.

1317
00:53:12,490 --> 00:53:15,860
This was the one for me.
Within the first week they said

1318
00:53:15,930 --> 00:53:18,280
they were.
I've summarised here OK because

1319
00:53:18,290 --> 00:53:20,880
I don't wanna say too much in
detail, but the idea was that

1320
00:53:20,890 --> 00:53:27,080
already people in a position of
authority have said the lesson.

1321
00:53:27,090 --> 00:53:30,080
Slides aren't good enough.
There's XYZ missing.

1322
00:53:30,130 --> 00:53:31,260
You need to go back and change
it.

1323
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:35,890
I don't know.
I'm mixed on that one.

1324
00:53:37,050 --> 00:53:39,380
So I reckon, I reckon I could
put together a lesson slide that

1325
00:53:39,390 --> 00:53:42,440
was atrocious and give it to you
and you'd give me that feedback

1326
00:53:42,450 --> 00:53:45,240
on day one, yeah?
Yeah.

1327
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,700
So, yeah, it's not completely
unfounded.

1328
00:53:47,710 --> 00:53:48,490
Yeah.
Yeah.

1329
00:53:48,540 --> 00:53:52,010
No, I think again, as teachers,
we need to be able to be told

1330
00:53:52,020 --> 00:53:54,380
sometimes that what we've done
is not good enough.

1331
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:58,270
And that's, you know, I think
there's this idea that teachers

1332
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,950
always did the best thing and
whatever teachers put in is

1333
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,010
acceptable.
Sometimes it's not in the first

1334
00:54:04,020 --> 00:54:06,310
three days back.
Do you think, receiving an

1335
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,220
e-mail, by the way, that they've
just gone in and checked your

1336
00:54:09,230 --> 00:54:11,540
stuff, There's no formal.
There's no formal look here.

1337
00:54:11,550 --> 00:54:13,530
Yeah, you've just uploaded your
planning and they're like, oh,

1338
00:54:13,540 --> 00:54:14,900
actually I've.
I've noticed a lot of this has

1339
00:54:14,910 --> 00:54:16,780
been missing.
Yeah, this, this and this.

1340
00:54:16,830 --> 00:54:19,440
I just think there's ways to go
about stuff when you know, for a

1341
00:54:19,450 --> 00:54:22,240
fact people have put whether
it's good or not, whether it's

1342
00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:24,920
good or bad, right.
These people have put hours into

1343
00:54:24,930 --> 00:54:26,660
prepping this.
Stuff in their summer holidays,

1344
00:54:26,670 --> 00:54:28,670
in their summer holidays for you
to turn around and just say it's

1345
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,100
not scratch change yet, but
they've done this work for free

1346
00:54:32,110 --> 00:54:35,180
by the way.
Yeah, like, I think at some

1347
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:37,400
point, and I don't know when,
but at some point it's a

1348
00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:38,780
reflection on the training put
in place.

1349
00:54:38,790 --> 00:54:40,900
If your staff are consistently
not doing stuff to your

1350
00:54:40,910 --> 00:54:43,560
standard, at what point do you
say as a manager?

1351
00:54:43,630 --> 00:54:46,010
I've not given them time to
learn all this stuff exactly, or

1352
00:54:46,020 --> 00:54:47,160
I've not implemented it.
Correctly.

1353
00:54:47,170 --> 00:54:49,020
I think if I was in that
situation I was that manager.

1354
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:50,830
I might be a little bit cross in
the moment of like, you know,

1355
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,690
it's not up to my standards and
my teachers aren't doing the

1356
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:54,500
right thing.
But I think the right response

1357
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:56,740
to that would be, firstly
recognising that it's your

1358
00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:59,000
problem because you're the
manager, literally your problem

1359
00:54:59,010 --> 00:55:01,680
is your job, and secondly
thinking of.

1360
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,450
Really appropriate way to deal
with that.

1361
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:05,670
Yeah.
And that is not just saying do

1362
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,250
it again and then not and then
and then blindly being like ohh,

1363
00:55:08,260 --> 00:55:09,810
I don't wanna hear about when
they're gonna do it.

1364
00:55:09,820 --> 00:55:11,750
I know it's gonna be in their
free time, in their evenings

1365
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,560
when they spend time with their
family or their weekends when

1366
00:55:13,570 --> 00:55:15,760
they got to look after them,
their parents or something.

1367
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:19,450
I'm just gonna ignore that.
You need to take, take it by

1368
00:55:19,460 --> 00:55:22,990
take the bull by the horns.
Yeah, we always.

1369
00:55:23,490 --> 00:55:27,440
Grab, grab the chicken, grab the
chicken by its feet and and

1370
00:55:27,450 --> 00:55:29,880
you've got to put something in
place The snail by the shell and

1371
00:55:29,890 --> 00:55:30,340
just.
Go.

1372
00:55:30,350 --> 00:55:31,620
I think what people do is get
spiteful.

1373
00:55:31,710 --> 00:55:33,660
Yeah, people get spiteful when
when it's not up to scratch,

1374
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:35,260
they go ohh therefore you're
rights gone now.

1375
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:36,760
Yeah, you now don't deserve any
rights.

1376
00:55:36,770 --> 00:55:39,500
It's like OK, even if they did a
bad job, you still need to give

1377
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:40,920
them time to correct it.
You just do.

1378
00:55:40,930 --> 00:55:43,040
You could be cross at them.
I'm really annoyed that I have

1379
00:55:43,050 --> 00:55:45,470
to get you a lesson to sort this
out because you should have it

1380
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,470
in the 1st place.
But here's the lesson.

1381
00:55:47,610 --> 00:55:49,900
Please go and sort this out.
Here's some support to help you

1382
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:52,710
and I'll check in on time or
what's done is done.

1383
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:54,990
The kids got a lesson because a
lot of the time it's just a

1384
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,030
style preference.
The kids still learn how to add

1385
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,470
right.
The kids still had the

1386
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,970
objective, but it wasn't to like
the exact specific

1387
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,550
specification.
So actually what's done is done.

1388
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,180
Next time we're gonna do this,
this and this.

1389
00:56:08,190 --> 00:56:09,250
And I put this in place to help
you.

1390
00:56:09,260 --> 00:56:10,950
Next time do that.
Yeah, what?

1391
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,630
What good is it when the lessons
been taught?

1392
00:56:13,060 --> 00:56:13,920
It's been done.
It's gone.

1393
00:56:13,930 --> 00:56:15,950
Let's go past it.
For some reason something went

1394
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,970
wrong in that process.
Let's find out what went wrong

1395
00:56:17,980 --> 00:56:20,820
in that process.
Next time let's fix it rather

1396
00:56:20,830 --> 00:56:22,290
than that's not good.
Do it again.

1397
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,340
That's not a good way to like,
treat your staff and boost

1398
00:56:26,350 --> 00:56:27,740
morale anyway.
One more.

1399
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,620
Wow, OK, we are, we are.
People do vent with us, don't

1400
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:31,720
they?
I know, And it's great, because

1401
00:56:31,730 --> 00:56:33,740
then I can vent through.
I want this, by the way, please.

1402
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:35,860
If you're listening now and
you've got something annoys you,

1403
00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:38,540
please send it in anonymously.
If this happened to me, I'd be

1404
00:56:38,550 --> 00:56:40,640
wound up, yeah.
And also, I wouldn't actually

1405
00:56:40,650 --> 00:56:43,300
want to go and tell the world
about it, but we can.

1406
00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:45,910
Yeah, we will with the voices
all from the same score.

1407
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,400
It's crazy.
Last one, and I put this last

1408
00:56:48,410 --> 00:56:50,860
because this happens all of the
time.

1409
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:55,130
I previously have literally been
promised time to do stuff.

1410
00:56:55,140 --> 00:56:57,730
Hmm.
And and, you know, time out to

1411
00:56:57,780 --> 00:56:59,890
stay in a certain role or stay
in a certain school.

1412
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:01,420
Sure.
And I just didn't I because of

1413
00:57:01,430 --> 00:57:02,680
what happened.
I was like, no, I don't believe

1414
00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:03,870
you.
Yeah, that don't believe.

1415
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,230
Yeah, this already.
Here we go.

1416
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:07,750
Promised to release time for
middle leaders.

1417
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,590
And in this case it wasn't like
it was like I was when we teach

1418
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,250
maths, English and stuff about
promised time has already been

1419
00:57:15,260 --> 00:57:19,030
cancelled in the first week and
in the second week and we'll

1420
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,210
have to be rearranged.
You know what that means?

1421
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,250
You're not getting.
It you're not getting it and you

1422
00:57:24,260 --> 00:57:27,540
still got to do the things
because how many times and this.

1423
00:57:27,550 --> 00:57:29,880
I can't stress this enough,
guys, this has happened to me.

1424
00:57:29,890 --> 00:57:31,520
So I'm not just plucking things
out of thin air.

1425
00:57:31,810 --> 00:57:37,380
I have been attempted to be kept
in a role, kept from leaving

1426
00:57:37,570 --> 00:57:45,560
somewhere with promises of XYZ
and I have said no because I'm

1427
00:57:45,570 --> 00:57:48,130
not falling for that trap where
I'm not going to be different

1428
00:57:48,140 --> 00:57:50,520
from the 10 other people I've
watched and not get this stuff.

1429
00:57:50,730 --> 00:57:54,040
So there is a bit of complacency
from people sometimes, but I've

1430
00:57:54,050 --> 00:57:55,810
seen a lot online of people
starting a new school and

1431
00:57:55,820 --> 00:57:57,720
they've been.
Stuff they've walked in, not got

1432
00:57:57,730 --> 00:57:59,400
it.
We've we've got a mutual friend

1433
00:57:59,470 --> 00:58:02,070
who told us a story once also a
teacher works in different

1434
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,720
schools for us.
But we meet up with every now

1435
00:58:03,730 --> 00:58:07,080
and then and there's just one
thing I was thinking about when

1436
00:58:07,090 --> 00:58:09,940
he he was leaving a school.
This is years ago he was leaving

1437
00:58:09,950 --> 00:58:13,880
school and it was one of those
schools where schools can set

1438
00:58:13,890 --> 00:58:15,120
their own pay.
By the way, it's quite common

1439
00:58:15,130 --> 00:58:17,390
like a lot of schools actually
have different different scales.

1440
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,080
And this is one of those schools
that had sort of just like

1441
00:58:20,090 --> 00:58:24,360
11/12/13 pay, quite a lot of pay
points like rather than the six

1442
00:58:24,430 --> 00:58:27,000
that you normally get the kind
of the unions recommend.

1443
00:58:27,090 --> 00:58:28,330
Wonder why?
Yeah.

1444
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:30,470
Is it because they're each jump
is smaller and you can?

1445
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,130
Pay.
Each jump is smaller so you can

1446
00:58:32,140 --> 00:58:34,620
pay people less I.
See, after a few years realised

1447
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:38,750
that actually his pay was quite
far behind where it should be.

1448
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:41,120
Whatever challenge to school
about the school.

1449
00:58:41,260 --> 00:58:42,510
Sorry, no.
Whatever is it.

1450
00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:46,890
Yeah, and and challenge score a
couple of times along the way

1451
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:48,950
and ask our system.
You know, it's just the way it

1452
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,300
works.
So ended up leaving and went to

1453
00:58:51,310 --> 00:58:54,280
another school and ended up
securing a much much higher pay

1454
00:58:54,380 --> 00:58:56,950
but the pay that he should have.
Been the day they should have

1455
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:57,910
been.
Correct amount of pay.

1456
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,860
For And then when they told the
school they were still working

1457
00:59:01,870 --> 00:59:05,180
and at the time like I'm going
here and I'm being paid this

1458
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:06,730
much, they were like, we would
you that.

1459
00:59:07,310 --> 00:59:09,280
And I remember he was telling us
this story and he was just like,

1460
00:59:09,290 --> 00:59:11,710
no, honestly, what a lie.
No, you wouldn't.

1461
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,300
Otherwise you have done it the
last three times I asked or we

1462
00:59:14,310 --> 00:59:16,540
would have paid you that.
Or if they, if they had, have

1463
00:59:16,550 --> 00:59:19,350
done that, why did it take
someone to call you out on it?

1464
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,810
Yeah, it just shows that some
schools are just vicious and and

1465
00:59:22,820 --> 00:59:25,720
and they don't care and they
make up these rules to save them

1466
00:59:25,730 --> 00:59:27,850
money.
And I'm going to say right now

1467
00:59:27,860 --> 00:59:30,830
it's usually those kind of
schools that are trusts.

1468
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,290
Well, they have.
They have more freedom to do

1469
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:34,810
that.
And the freedom usually means

1470
00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:38,780
less money for doing your job,
more roles above school where

1471
00:59:38,790 --> 00:59:41,110
you're not actually in teaching
and learning at all, but you can

1472
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,090
walk around and look important
and look like you're doing

1473
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:45,390
something and tell people who
are actually doing the job how

1474
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,780
to do it better.
Having not done it for years, it

1475
00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:50,510
is completely backwards.
They drain money from the top

1476
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,480
down, the people actually
delivering the work.

1477
00:59:52,490 --> 00:59:56,310
The TA's get nothing.
Like we always moan as teachers.

1478
00:59:56,620 --> 00:59:59,290
Can we talk about TA still we've
got.

1479
00:59:59,340 --> 01:00:01,880
I've met Tas before who are
helping children with

1480
01:00:01,890 --> 01:00:04,790
educational healthcare plans,
who literally help to keep

1481
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,430
children alive in their
day-to-day job, who are paid

1482
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,130
less than if they're going to
scan food at Tesco.

1483
01:00:10,940 --> 01:00:12,240
What?
Meanwhile someone's walking

1484
01:00:12,250 --> 01:00:14,830
around in a suit between 7:00
schools going well, actually,

1485
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,470
there's not enough time on that.
Smart.

1486
01:00:16,850 --> 01:00:22,410
For me by Michael Jackson who's
who's who's doing the more

1487
01:00:22,420 --> 01:00:24,570
important job.
Yeah, who is actually doing more

1488
01:00:24,580 --> 01:00:25,730
important job.
And I always remember my

1489
01:00:25,740 --> 01:00:27,840
chemistry teacher in school Miss
Cousins.

1490
01:00:27,850 --> 01:00:29,590
Anyone who went to the same
school as me might.

1491
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,090
You might know who I'm.
Talking about, I always remember

1492
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,780
her just saying because she was
this classic lovely lady who was

1493
01:00:34,790 --> 01:00:37,460
really, really nice.
Often like, the classes were

1494
01:00:37,470 --> 01:00:39,230
just horrible because they felt
like they go away because she

1495
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,210
was such a nice woman.
Yeah.

1496
01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:42,250
Yeah, took advantage, yes.
So looking back now, I'm like

1497
01:00:42,340 --> 01:00:44,700
some some people were just
horrible to teachers at school.

1498
01:00:45,410 --> 01:00:49,660
Lovely woman, really liked her
and she always said, um, who

1499
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:52,420
really is providing more to
society, right?

1500
01:00:52,430 --> 01:00:54,720
The insurance broker or the big
man.

1501
01:00:55,350 --> 01:00:57,460
Like that was her thing.
Yeah, like the this, this top

1502
01:00:57,470 --> 01:00:59,380
dog, top week who's making money
for a bank.

1503
01:00:59,450 --> 01:01:02,240
Or the bin man.
Yeah, or the bin man.

1504
01:01:02,250 --> 01:01:05,290
And I was just like one of them
Moments where you're like, it's

1505
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:06,870
it's broken.
It's so broken.

1506
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,420
And the same in schools.
The people making the biggest

1507
01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:11,460
impact in schools are the people
who are in front of your

1508
01:01:11,470 --> 01:01:13,940
children every single day, the
people who are helping stuff to

1509
01:01:13,950 --> 01:01:16,700
happen, the TCAS, the people
running around on the ground

1510
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:19,320
doing the job.
Are providing more value, I get

1511
01:01:19,330 --> 01:01:21,510
it way more.
Value because we live in a

1512
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,380
society where we pay for
responsibilities.

1513
01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:25,730
Yeah, the buck lies with the
person has the most

1514
01:01:25,740 --> 01:01:28,360
responsibility and but their
responsibility ends up being

1515
01:01:28,420 --> 01:01:30,500
working absolutely everyone
else.

1516
01:01:30,510 --> 01:01:31,910
Today.
Because, yeah, because Labour is

1517
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,670
like, it's out of the equation.
And point your hourly, it's just

1518
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,560
not the same.
Yeah.

1519
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,270
So it's broken.
Schools are broken.

1520
01:01:38,420 --> 01:01:39,600
That's good.
There you go.

1521
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:40,780
Yeah.
And I read that.

1522
01:01:40,790 --> 01:01:43,830
And I was like, I felt it, but I
felt good as well reading it.

1523
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,490
And I think that person felt
good writing it.

1524
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,930
But here's the problem.
And teachers did it all the

1525
01:01:48,940 --> 01:01:51,190
time.
My own moan, moan, moan, moan

1526
01:01:51,260 --> 01:01:53,520
goes and does it anyway.
So I'm not going to be horrible

1527
01:01:53,530 --> 01:01:55,060
to this person because I like
this person a lot.

1528
01:01:55,070 --> 01:01:55,990
Who sent this in.
Yeah.

1529
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,110
And.
But what I would always say to

1530
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,390
that justice, but we've done
about it.

1531
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,090
Ohh no, not in a horrible.
Way we've done about it, man.

1532
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:04,400
Yeah, you you think you're
paying me some bad guy here in

1533
01:02:04,410 --> 01:02:07,210
this.
But what I mean is, did you

1534
01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:08,470
dispute anything?
Yeah.

1535
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,690
Did you get with your colleagues
and say right, we need to change

1536
01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:12,400
this?
Because the only way you can get

1537
01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:14,720
changed is it's all well and
good jumping onto the strike

1538
01:02:14,730 --> 01:02:16,540
bandwagon and saying I'm going
to strike.

1539
01:02:16,550 --> 01:02:17,870
Yeah, of course I am.
And that was brilliant.

1540
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,370
Well done.
Made a bit of disruption.

1541
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:21,760
But the only way we're going to
actually make changes when

1542
01:02:21,770 --> 01:02:23,750
there's lots of small things
like this happening, everyone

1543
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,500
turning around and saying no and
organising it and saying if

1544
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:29,780
someone says we need to do lunch
duty, no you don't.

1545
01:02:29,790 --> 01:02:33,080
No I'm not doing it because I
literally took a ��200 pay cut a

1546
01:02:33,090 --> 01:02:36,210
day last year to strike.
So no, I'm not going to do this

1547
01:02:36,220 --> 01:02:37,940
free thing for you.
And continue to do, you said

1548
01:02:37,950 --> 01:02:39,820
that a lot actually and I do
think it's, I think it's

1549
01:02:39,830 --> 01:02:43,010
important.
It is annoying how, yeah,

1550
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:44,280
strikes were happening last
year.

1551
01:02:44,510 --> 01:02:46,640
The idea of any school being
like, yeah we support the

1552
01:02:46,650 --> 01:02:49,760
strikes but also within a month
giving you more workload.

1553
01:02:49,770 --> 01:02:51,410
It's like you don't really
support it then do otherwise you

1554
01:02:51,420 --> 01:02:54,180
wouldn't do this like the whole
we're striking because of

1555
01:02:54,190 --> 01:02:55,250
workload.
What do you?

1556
01:02:55,930 --> 01:02:57,730
If you're even staying neutral
is not enough.

1557
01:02:57,740 --> 01:03:00,060
Like, you should be helping this
because teachers are striking

1558
01:03:00,070 --> 01:03:02,080
across the country, not for a
laugh.

1559
01:03:02,790 --> 01:03:04,220
They're doing it because
workload is terrible.

1560
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:05,900
Yeah.
Anyway, and nothing changed, but

1561
01:03:06,410 --> 01:03:07,900
should wrap up.
There I say thank you though for

1562
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:09,780
writing.
And again, I'll say it again.

1563
01:03:09,790 --> 01:03:11,400
Please do write in.
Dylan will tell you where our

1564
01:03:11,410 --> 01:03:13,380
socials are in a moment, but we
would like to hear if you just

1565
01:03:13,390 --> 01:03:15,380
want to vent us or you just want
to say something.

1566
01:03:15,390 --> 01:03:17,760
You you feel like I just don't
have the courage yet.

1567
01:03:17,770 --> 01:03:20,640
Maybe to say this to the people
at work who I've got a

1568
01:03:20,650 --> 01:03:22,200
challenge.
We'll say it for you and then

1569
01:03:22,210 --> 01:03:24,060
just play it.
Just play in the classroom.

1570
01:03:24,070 --> 01:03:26,280
We don't.
We're going to do an episode

1571
01:03:26,290 --> 01:03:29,770
soon on Amazing SLT because
there are some unbelievable

1572
01:03:29,780 --> 01:03:32,250
school leaders who are under
huge pressure, who do an

1573
01:03:32,260 --> 01:03:34,230
unbelievable job and it's very
easy.

1574
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,650
For us, just so it's a good
schools, yes.

1575
01:03:35,660 --> 01:03:37,810
So find a good school.
You know, that's another thing.

1576
01:03:37,820 --> 01:03:39,360
Like a lot of people say,
they're trapped.

1577
01:03:39,370 --> 01:03:42,090
Honestly, that teaches the best
job ever in terms of you're

1578
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:44,380
always going to find work.
There's there's schools all over

1579
01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:46,210
the country that you know the
jobs are always going to be

1580
01:03:46,220 --> 01:03:47,650
there.
It might take you a few

1581
01:03:47,660 --> 01:03:49,610
interviews or whatever to get
one, but there's always gonna be

1582
01:03:49,620 --> 01:03:51,480
another teaching job that comes
and becomes available.

1583
01:03:51,490 --> 01:03:55,650
Definitely find a good school
and forget about the past and

1584
01:03:55,660 --> 01:03:58,410
it's season 2, baby.
Unless you've forgotten season

1585
01:03:58,420 --> 01:03:59,470
2.
Have we got the same time now?

1586
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:00,940
Do you think we're not gonna do
anything now?

1587
01:04:00,950 --> 01:04:06,240
Are we no no the same gonna 2IN
Spotify and in Season 2 we've

1588
01:04:06,250 --> 01:04:07,830
got a big two on the front of
this one?

1589
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,040
On this, just put two season,
OK, Alright, yeah.

1590
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,290
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, they've got this.

1591
01:04:13,300 --> 01:04:16,270
They've got this on the podcast.
Don't know what you think.

1592
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,130
Anyway, guys on Instagram at
Teach, Sleep, repeat podcast

1593
01:04:19,140 --> 01:04:21,630
Gmail
app.teachstrepeatpod@gmail.com

1594
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,470
threads.
It's the same as Instagram, so

1595
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,830
you can find us through there.
And XI don't really post there

1596
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,180
anymore because like Elon Musk
and I don't like that much and

1597
01:04:28,190 --> 01:04:30,570
it's just ridiculous.
We're going to keep this dance.

1598
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,790
This is where we need that radio
background sound, isn't it?

1599
01:04:34,220 --> 01:04:34,920
You do.
Yeah.

1600
01:04:34,930 --> 01:04:35,280
Do.
Do.

1601
01:04:35,290 --> 01:04:35,710
Do.
Do.

1602
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,900
Do.
Do talk.

1603
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:39,950
Who's listening to this?
I'm so sorry.

1604
01:04:40,050 --> 01:04:42,350
Yeah, honestly, in the.
Car getting carried away.

1605
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,470
I know.
Anyway, find us on socials.

1606
01:04:44,700 --> 01:04:46,330
Message us.
We had a message from that

1607
01:04:46,340 --> 01:04:48,030
person in Zambia that was like,
the best day of my life.

1608
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,970
I'm not even exactly.
I was like, Oh my God, thank

1609
01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:51,630
you.
I love hearing from listeners

1610
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,020
who actually listen to us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1611
01:04:53,030 --> 01:04:54,400
And we know you're out there.
We know you listen.

1612
01:04:54,410 --> 01:04:56,330
So guys, do get in touch.
And if you have any

1613
01:04:56,340 --> 01:04:58,790
recommendations or you want to
see anything in the future,

1614
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,540
we're here all.
Year we do next week, Dan, We're

1615
01:05:00,550 --> 01:05:02,320
gonna talk about the positives
to teaching.

1616
01:05:02,330 --> 01:05:04,860
How are we?
OK, so this one was an hour long

1617
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:06,310
moaning.
Next week be 10 minutes.

1618
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,750
This was a bit of money episode,
but I hope you understand that

1619
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,860
it's it's good every now and
then, but next week we can talk

1620
01:05:11,870 --> 01:05:13,190
about all the good stuff of
teaching.

1621
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,510
Good teaching is a wonderful
job.

1622
01:05:14,700 --> 01:05:16,550
Tell us what's your favourite
thing about the job.

1623
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,920
Give me a really good feel good
story and we'll think of ours

1624
01:05:19,930 --> 01:05:21,970
because already towards you in a
couple of days.

1625
01:05:22,220 --> 01:05:24,420
I can think of a few feel good
stories when I'm interacting

1626
01:05:24,430 --> 01:05:26,530
with the kids, so that's why we
keep coming back.

1627
01:05:26,540 --> 01:05:29,610
Anyway guys, we're going to wrap
it up because I am baking.

1628
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,330
You can see my head sweating.
Unless you're listening.

1629
01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:33,400
Goodbye everybody.