Ep 26: Why Do Some Teachers Struggle With The Summer Holidays?

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Hello and welcome back to
another episode I've teached

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Deep Repeat.
My name is Dylan.

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And my name is Hayden, and I'm
saying this for the second time

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because Hayden forgot to do his
audio properly.

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So Hayden, thanks for wasting 20
minutes of our time.

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Let's just double me in straight
away.

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No, you don't get away with
this, so don't get away at all.

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So, Hayden, I What's gonna
happen in this podcast?

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Are you OK?
Yeah, I'm fine.

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Are we are we gonna pretend that
we didn't just record this for

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15 minutes?
Or are we gonna Ohh we could we

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could pretend to catch up each
other's weeks and be really

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interested in ohh.
Interesting.

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Pretty interesting.
Well, maybe we could recap on,

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you know, a couple of weeks ago
you led the podcast.

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You know, you might have it
witty to say about that.

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Yeah.
Yeah, OK, Well, I did leave the

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podcast and there's a lot of new
fans here right now, I'm sure.

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For me.
So I think my family, my family

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messaged me about, yeah, they
enjoyed.

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Because I mentioned that the
first time I recorded this, so

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I'm gonna mention right now,
thanks to Dylan's family,

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because you picked me up and
made made him feel rubbish.

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He now sits on the better host.
So that's good.

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No, no, don't worry about that,
Worry about that happening.

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My favourite bit was my mum,
who, you know, typical mum is

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just, you know, says nice things
to people, make them feel good

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about themselves, but often just
not true.

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Like she was saying how good
your beard looked and I was

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like, mom, you don't need to.
He's not in this group chat.

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He's not going to see this.
I sent it to him, you know,

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don't pretend.
How I missed the beard.

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Shall I talk 5 minutes like I
did last time about how I missed

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my beard?
Yeah, yeah, it's good though.

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But listeners who are listening
in right now, you're gonna get

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like the condensed version of
our Wiffle waffle because, you

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know, Hayden, Hayden says.
If you gonna use this just not

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very funny all the time.
Yeah, we're waffle.

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Waffle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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definitely.
But yeah, Hayden, do please tell

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me.
I'm really interested to hear

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for the first time about your
beard.

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And your choices.
I'm not doing it.

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I'm breaking script.
I'm breaking the script.

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So I didn't mention last time.
I like your purple light.

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Ohh, thank you.
I did.

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I changed it around a bit.
I thought that, you know, the

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grotesque green curtain which is
just always in this corner.

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I thought, why don't I just
slightly move my camera and then

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it won't be in there anymore.
Joe is really small jobs that

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you just, you know, we'll take
two minutes and massively

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improve your life.
But you never, ever do it.

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This is one of them.
I was like weeks ago.

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I was gonna tell my desk.
It's not like you I have now.

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Not like you to to leave little
jobs that are meaningless to

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take 5 seconds forever and not
just do them.

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Listen, I preferred it when I
knew what was coming up because

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we wasted 20 minutes of our time
already doing this intro.

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It didn't work.
What?

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Just wondering.
Hayden, why don't you got fancy

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lights and stuff You tried to
copy my office that I've got?

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Why don't you change your light
to purple?

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Yeah, well, I can't because my
one only goes from white to

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orange.
I'm Hayden and I've got a

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traditional light.
Listen, you want to jam out to

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purple sometime?
Who knows?

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Later in this episode, I might
change it to green, because I

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can.
I think you should, but you'll

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forget because it's a small
little job and you won't do it.

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So listen, listen, Hayden, I I
don't have small little jobs

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around my desk.
Like, you know, 3 glasses that I

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just haven't taken.
Down.

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I know I was literally gonna say
you're asking to do the cup

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thing, but I wonder about it so
much.

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I was like, no, I won't bully
him today about this cups.

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And you have.
He doesn't.

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Dylan doesn't take his cups
down.

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I'm gonna.
I'm just going off on one now.

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You'd be quiet.
Dylan is the worst person ever

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for like, just just leaving tiny
things.

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Like if he has a play upstairs,
he's eating his lunch upstairs.

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That plate will sit there for
three weeks.

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I guarantee you, and I'd even
say sometimes Dylan, you could

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take your he's going downstairs
and say you could take your

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plate down.
He's like, Nah.

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It's like, what are you not even
had to not remember to do it?

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You just decided not to Listen,
listen, listen.

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This is the problem I have.
OK, I'm going to dive into my

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site here.
First of all, I just don't do

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it.
That's the first problem.

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OK.
The second problem is when

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someone tells me to do it, I
immediately like no, I'm not do

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what you say, I'll do what I
want to do.

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It in the cycle just continues.
I'm just going to say I'm going

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to expose you a bit more.
His girlfriend came in, I don't

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know, like a month ago and we're
on camera and all she was doing

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was tidying up his mess.
She was just fed up of seeing

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like Chris Packet on the side or
whatever and picked it up until

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I was like, no.
He got annoyed.

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You got annoyed because she was
literally cleaning up for you

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and you got annoyed for some
reason.

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I don't even know what's going
through your head.

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Does anyone else have this where
they hate?

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It's from childhood.
I hate my stuff being touched or

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you know you just my my brain
goes into like that's my thing.

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That's the I don't do that.
I was that kid who, if you like,

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put one toe over the line
towards my door in my bedroom.

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Like, get out now, my room now.
Did but did your sisters wind

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you up and stuff like, is that
why?

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Did they Did they do it on
purpose just to wind you up, or

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would you just strange about it?
Um, I don't know.

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That's why I ask them.
Hayden, you're all that new

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biggest fan mate.
Why don't you just message them?

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Fine.
I I'm.

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There's a big family.
Ohh Hayden's just quite funny

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actually.
Ohh.

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Hayden's beard looks nice.
Ohh I'm fed up of it.

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So I'm back this week leading.
Look what happens.

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One week in forgets his
headphones.

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You have to do 20 minutes.
We've had this conversation

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already.
Honestly, I'm still laughing at

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that.
You got something already.

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So every episode, if you haven't
noticed already, every single

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episode Dylan will say a phrase
or like an idiom or just

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something, and he'll say it
wrong.

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And it always makes me laugh.
I'll be editing the podcast

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episode and I'll just listen to
Dylan say something the wrong

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way around.
Like then he just said I'm their

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biggest fan and what he meant to
say was they're my biggest fan.

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It's just funny.
Hate it.

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People in stone houses shouldn't
throw glass.

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All right, so just wind your
neck in.

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For like, until you said the
last word, I didn't even notice

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you doing it wrong, right?
Listen, listen, they said how

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good your beard was.
Let me just read my script here

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from last time.
So we mentioned about my family,

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Here we go.
My family mentioned how good

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your beard was.
Then I made a joke about why is

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it not here anymore?
And that was meant to be the

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link into something you did this
week.

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So should we do that again?
Yeah, ohh, natural link.

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I went to a wedding.
But you went to the wedding as

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well.
But I was there longer because

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I'm more special than you.
And I was the I was the best man

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again.
I know it's like deja vu, isn't

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it?
Because must have been sad, deja

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vu.
Yeah, because you have been best

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man twice and you've made this
joke twice as well, so it's

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really odd.
It was only a few episodes ago

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that I was best man.
People probably thinking, who is

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this guy?
Why is he so friendly with

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everybody I know?
And the worst thing is you have

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to let them down when you have a
wedding and I'm your best man.

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That's horrible.
But you won't be.

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You won't be.
Because I'll be the best.

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Because you're your own best
man.

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Yeah, I remember.
Yeah.

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Trick.
I'm going for the hat-trick, so

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just, you know, the table giving
your speech as the groom.

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Yeah.
And now let's please welcome the

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best man that you just stand up
again.

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Just put your jacket on.
Exactly.

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I'll introduce myself and I'll
talk.

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He's a great guy.
He's a great guy.

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Trust your bed.
Can't.

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Yeah, just rinse myself.
You write it for me, but I'll

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read it.
Ohh dear.

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But yeah the wedding was good.
A bit annoying though because

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they're we what?
I say a bit annoying as if it

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was an amazing wedding.
There was nothing annoying about

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it other than me getting bitten
by a bunch of mosquitoes.

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Ohh, my goodness, was it you or
was someone else that pointed

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out the one on my head like
that?

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Yeah, because it looked like, Do
you know that grainy footage of

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when man landed on the moon
Looks like their legs come out.

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Of the hands on the moon it was
it looked like that on your

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head.
Like there's look like it's just

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landed next to this crater on
your head just there.

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And it just so like season just
landed and just started sucking

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the blood out your head like.
And the best bit was you're in

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like a full three piece suit.
We went out for lunch the other

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day and you had shorts on and
your legs were riddled, riddled

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with bites.
Like what?

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Happened alive and I don't even,
I don't even know I had a suit

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trousers on.
Ohh.

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We were outside for a long time
to be fair, like we stayed out.

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We're kind of like, I think I do
know where you got that from, by

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the way.
And I'm gonna maybe upload this

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picture to Instagram.
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Do you remember the part?
Maybe you could explain to the

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listeners about the part where
you helped out with some photos.

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Oh God, yeah, I forgot about
that.

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I wonder if it was from that,
you know, So the bride and groom

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had.
I knew you were gonna rinse me

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about this as well.
Riding groom were having photos

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out and it was a beautiful venue
and it was like a field behind

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it.
That's a really cool little

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photoshoot opportunity.
And he took them out into this

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more like field.
He bit quite long grass.

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And uh, he needed someone to
spray this.

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Like, it's like canned smoke.
I imagine it's used for like

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props and shows and stuff as
well.

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And he just asked me if I'd go
behind them.

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So I'm not actually in the shop,
but you know, just behind them

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and just spray it in the air to
get like a Smokey effect in the

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background I guess.
And as I was there on my hands

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and knees just spraying, I was
actually like contorting my body

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so that I couldn't see the
camera lens because I didn't

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want to be in it.
Obviously ruin that picture,

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just my arm out like this, like.
And yes, I was just in the grass

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for a solid 2 minutes and I
think they just got in my

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trouser legs and they just bit
me to death.

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But the the best bit about this
was obviously from from your

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perspective of the cameraman,
you were you were like not in

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shot remotely but you were at a
proper 90 degree angle to the

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rest of the wedding party.
So all you could see was like

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photographer, bridegroom, But
then you like this like better

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get closer pictures and I'm
gonna upload one.

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I'm gonna upload it's.
Good.

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Nice.
Well, I look forward to that.

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You also gonna upload the photo
of you know, I'm gonna say

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because I said it last time,
yeah there's no photo.

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And by the way last time wasn't
expected it.

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Guys, very soon in this podcast
we will get past the point where

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we got to we realised, hey, the
rest of the audio and we will

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stop doing these callbacks.
But for now, yes, I do know what

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you bring up again without once
telling me so.

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Well you can you can condense
the story this time.

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So Dylan being a big hairy man
had to had to alter his alter

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his body for this wedding
because he was sweating too much

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under his boobs.
So Dylan, how did you under his

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his his man boobs, how did you?
This situation, thanks for

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clarifying that they're man
boobs.

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That's much, much nicer.
You called them last time, so I

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thought I could listen.
Listen, we always joke between

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Hayden and I that we have enough
hair for two grown men.

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Just.
I have 98% of that hair on one

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body.
OK, it's so true.

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But the point the point being,
we've all done this.

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Men.
We've all done this, OK,

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Especially men who are hairy and
men who sweat quite a bit.

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But you get ready for like, a
wedding.

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You get the really smart clothes
on.

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And it's the it's the middle of
bloody summer.

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Like, why are we wearing all
this stuff in the middle of

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summer?
Just tradition.

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Let's get married.
Shorts.

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Come on, let's let's go with the
times anyway.

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Really hot already.
White shirt on trousers and like

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when when I'm ready to leave you
know you always like you missed

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like two or three things around
the house and you kind of

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scraping around Ohh God rest my
wallet grab my keys getting a

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bit stressed.
Getting a bit hot and before I

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even left the house, I noticed a
drip of sweat.

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One little white patch just
under my nipple and I was like,

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oh God, this is this is only
grows from here.

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This is the least I'll sweat
today tonight and it's already

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got a little bit of sweat
underneath my nipple.

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So I was like, I need to do
something about.

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This I've seen this by the way.
I've seen you in other

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situations where you do just.
What you get this line?

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Big line when we play squash and
things.

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That's the first place that I
get swept across here.

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From nipple to nipple, Exactly.
It's like one of them, you know

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those ink blots.
But like what do you see people

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just looking at me, like trying
for a psychology, like, but

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anyway, so I was like, right,
OK.

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So I'll.
I'll obviously took my T-shirt

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off, wiped it down.
I was like, this isn't gonna

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help.
I'm still going to sweat.

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That's like, I've got the, like,
antiperspirant, but it's.

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I'm just gonna sweat here.
And the problem was, my hair

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obviously gets wet.
And if it brushes against the

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shirt, it gets wet on the shirt.
And it's really, obviously

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embarrassing, isn't it?
So it's like, OK, I know what to

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do.
I know what to do.

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I'm just going to shave the hair
underneath.

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I'm going to shave a long line
off just to get rid of it.

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Pat, get some antiperspirant on
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It's going to be perfectly.
And it did work.

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OK, it did work, but but there
was a problem because I shaved

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it off and I was like cool, put
my shirt back on. 2 minutes

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later about to leave big red
patch over my nipple.

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I was like what is going on?
I I just I just caught my nipple

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on the end and my nipple was
bleeding.

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Bit of a news flash for anyone
who ever cuts the nipple.

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Doesn't stop bleeding.
Literally doesn't stop bleeding

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at all.
So I was waiting around, We like

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waiting to go a bit late.
I'm bleeding from my nipple

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still.
So all good because I ended up

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having to wear a shirt.
A T-shirt.

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Underneath my shirt and I was
hotter than I've ever been.

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Ever.
So no point in doing any of

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this.
Completely futile.

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Completely backfired.
That's so funny.

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At least you don't have to do
anything the next day.

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Like before we get on to that
before because you are you are

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gonna tell me a story about the
next day, which is equally

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funny.
I will say one nice thing to

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them because you know, I can be
nice sometimes.

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When was at the wedding?
There are a couple of guests

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there.
He only just paused recording 5

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minutes ago to make sure I did.
When we were there, they were a

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couple of kids there who were
like late teenagers and Dylan at

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first just did just blank them
out.

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They were just guess that he
didn't know.

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And I said to him, did you
realise they're kids?

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You taught like 8 years ago,
they're in your class.

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And he was like, who?
Talking about turning around,

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You know, he's talking about,
He's talking about right there

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in front of him, didn't know and
yeah, And in the end I think the

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mum who was, who was the groom
sister, by the way, ended up

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coming up and speaking to you
and saying some nice things or

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something.
I don't know, maybe if if you

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want to talk about it, so you
know, it's fine now.

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She's just lovely.
And the reason I wanted to talk

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about it was because if it
obviously feels good, doesn't

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it?
It feels good when someone comes

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up to you and says it was all
those years ago, She still

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remembers having you as a
teacher.

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She still loved having you and
like you, you really gave her

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confidence.
And she was like you're one of

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the few teachers who, you know,
constantly just picks her up and

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like makes her feel good about
herself and not like she's doing

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the wrong thing.
And it's just nice to hear one

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like that come through because
that's something that I actively

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try and do.
So to hear that like years

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later, I'm like, oh, that's a
nice thing to hear.

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But two, if you ever see old
teacher or you have kids who's

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with a teacher who inspired them
to go and tell them like it, it

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it will never backfire.
Because I know I personally

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don't do that when I see you
laughing at.

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In my imagination and imagining
an extension to the story of

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where she calls over her kids
and she's like kids, come and

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speak to you.
Speak to your teacher.

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He's got a massive line of fat
swear across his boobs and he's

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and he's bleeding out of his
nipples.

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Come and talk to him.
Did you just call it fat Sweat?

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What's what?
As it like I'm not calling you

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fat.
I'm just saying it's it's that's

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what.
It is.

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It's like under your boobs,
isn't it?

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We all get it.
That's please, what would you

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call it?
Wanna go around calling it fast

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rat, boy?
That's fast rat.

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I call you mate.
I call it sweat.

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That's right, because you're
fat.

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Is that what you're saying?
No, no, no.

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That is not what I meant.
Dylan, stop trying to paint me

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out to be a horrible person just
because I did a better job than

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you are hosting last week.
And yeah, paint you paint you

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out by using the words you
literally just used.

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It's me.
Ohh must be me.

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Listen, all right, It's all
banter between me and you, OK?

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But also, moving on from that, I
just thought it was boring.

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So we.
I've been really horrible.

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I know what's wrong with me.
Listen 1 whiff 1 whiff of him

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doing good, half decent job
leaving the podcast ladies and

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gentlemen.
This is the monster you've

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created, everyone.
This is the monster your family

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has created by picking me up,
but also an even a bigger,

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momentous event.
You turned 30 yesterday, Yeah,

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from.
Recording this and I don't know

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if this was related.
Did you book a sports massage

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because you're turning 30?
Because you also sent me a bunch

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of stretching videos and I'm
like, I'm not sure.

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I know in a minute we're gonna
get on to like being 30, but I'm

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not sure if all these things are
related or if it's just a

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coincidence.
But you you had a sports

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massage, which went hilariously.
Look, look, we just I've just

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told you the story about how I
shaped the line across my chest,

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and you've got to now imagine
this situation where there's no

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attempt to make it look
aesthetically pleasing

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whatsoever.
It was simply to not have hair

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there so I could not sweat
through anyway.

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The next morning I booked a
sports massage, my first ever

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sports massage, but it's for my
leg.

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I've had a dodgy leg for like 15
years from like a sports injury

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ages ago where I landed on
cricket ball on my knee, right?

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And it just messed up my whole
leg.

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Where my knee doesn't work
properly.

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My whole leg is like
compensating for like for that

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basically.
And I used to have physio and

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stuff.
I'm not doing it for years and

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my legs just not getting better.
It's just slowly getting a bit

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worse.
So I'm like, ah, I am getting

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older now I I need to like kind
of do something.

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So that started with me looking
online for simple flexibility

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because Hayden, I'd like it.
I don't know if it winds you up,

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it winds me up that I literally
can't move my body in certain

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ways just because I can't be
bothered to stretch or do

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anything.
Yeah, is that classic thing of

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when you're a kid, you're like,
ohh, whatever.

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And the adults always talk about
stretching and you will lose

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your mobility if you don't use
it.

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It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.

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I cannot bend in any direction
other than the seating position

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and standing up and whatever I
sleep in, it's terrible.

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So that's where it was born
from.

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And I was like, look, this stuff
every person can do, like

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beginner stretches that there's
no reason not to do, takes 5

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minutes out your day.
And I was like, cool.

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Well, the very least I can do
that because the idea of me then

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going and paying for like a
sports massage or going to

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physio and then being like cool,
what do you do?

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And I'm like nothing, like at
least do the free stuff for a

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bit to see if it helps and not
just expect this guy to fix your

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problems.
So I did a bit of that for like

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a week or two and I booked this
sports massage in.

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And anyway, I went there and I
was like, that's fine.

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I want some sports shorts, just
a T-shirt.

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It's like it's for my leg.
So you know that that'll be,

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that'll be no problem.
I didn't even think about the

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fact I had a patch across my
chest that morning.

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Anyway, really nice guy, really
lovely bloke.

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Definitely gonna go back and do
some more with him very quickly.

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Halfway through the massage, Uh
mentioned about our tutoring and

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he was like, Oh yeah, I think
I'm subscribed to and YouTube.

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I was like, what?
Hello.

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It's so awkward, I know, but his
daughter's doing going into your

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six next year, so a lot of our
videos help her.

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But yeah, he's just like, I
think I subscribed to you as

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he's like elbowing into my
hamstring.

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But yeah, really lovely bloke.
And before you get ready, yet to

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sign loads of medical forms and
stuff.

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And he kind of stepped, stood up
and I was getting ready to go

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onto the bench, obviously, and
get started.

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And he went to the door and he
was like, right, I'll give you a

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couple minutes to get ready.
And I was like, what?

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Get ready.
I think I'm ready to go on it.

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And he's like, yeah, no, this
towel over there if you need it

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and to cover yourself up.
And I was like, oh, this is that

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not right?
Is that OK?

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Just.
And he was just like, ohh, yeah,

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no, that's that's fine.
Maybe just take the top off in

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case you don't need back work.
Hmm.

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The top.
OK, no problem.

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Anyway he left he left the rear
was like Oh well this is gonna

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happen.
I've got all I'm going to do.

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I've got patch across my chest.
It's massive patch.

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So anyway, every any normal
person knowing that you're going

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to have to approach approach
this subject will probably just

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told the truth.
Yeah, but yeah, I was like, ohh,

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what can I come up with where it
doesn't sound like it's my own

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fault because I sweat too much
and I wanted so it comes, it

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comes back in.
I was like, oh, one thing, you

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probably noticed this big patch,
just my chest.

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So it's just the doctor was
checking the mole?

449
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,090
Ohh is it just bleeding?
No, that's just my nipple.

450
00:19:26,140 --> 00:19:27,790
He also cut my nipple for some
reason.

451
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:31,360
Also, I'm sorry, how big is this
model?

452
00:19:31,370 --> 00:19:33,700
Is it like a rectangular bowl
across the whole patch of your

453
00:19:33,710 --> 00:19:36,480
chest now?
No, no, it's a it's actually I

454
00:19:36,490 --> 00:19:38,420
don't have a mole.
I've made that bit up as well.

455
00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:41,520
I've gotta go.
I've gotta go.

456
00:19:41,530 --> 00:19:45,110
You'll see me on YouTube.
Have you got a pen I can borrow?

457
00:19:45,870 --> 00:19:46,540
Draw.
Draw.

458
00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:51,530
Let's hope that he listens to
this podcast as well, yeah?

459
00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:54,760
Next time you go, he just like,
ohh yeah, shaved your chest

460
00:19:54,770 --> 00:19:57,550
again.
That would be funny.

461
00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:01,740
God's sake.
Anyway, yeah, that that's that's

462
00:20:01,750 --> 00:20:02,790
my story with the sports
massage.

463
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,210
But yeah, Tony, 30 in general.
I was more bothered about

464
00:20:07,220 --> 00:20:11,510
turning 30 about two years ago
to 1 1/2 two years ago.

465
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,670
Then I was actually turning 30.
It was definitely like a mental

466
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,980
block for me when I was younger.
But now I'm actually 30, I'm

467
00:20:18,990 --> 00:20:20,500
completely over it and I feel
great.

468
00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:22,630
Like it doesn't bother me
whatsoever.

469
00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:24,600
But there's definitely
something, isn't there, about

470
00:20:24,610 --> 00:20:26,830
just that that flip over into a
century.

471
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:28,650
Country not that old that
flipped.

472
00:20:28,660 --> 00:20:33,880
Over here he goes again.
It's the next decade.

473
00:20:34,370 --> 00:20:36,400
I think.
It's just, you think, ohh, did I

474
00:20:36,410 --> 00:20:38,660
make the most of my 20s?
Did I do all the right things?

475
00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:40,340
I'm in the position.
Yeah, that's right.

476
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:42,540
But you just need to let go of
those comparisons I think.

477
00:20:42,550 --> 00:20:45,270
You do And it's and it's hard to
to be fair because our life is

478
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,970
like, our culture is just
comparisons, isn't it Is to be

479
00:20:47,980 --> 00:20:50,960
doing this by the time you're 25
and you need to be married and

480
00:20:50,970 --> 00:20:53,130
then you have house, then you
have kids and it's like, I hate

481
00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:56,540
this, like, oh, people can just
do what they want at any pace or

482
00:20:56,550 --> 00:20:58,410
not do what they want.
And it doesn't literally doesn't

483
00:20:58,420 --> 00:21:01,030
matter as long as you're happy.
But yeah, it's true.

484
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,470
I turned 30 last year and it was
like.

485
00:21:02,810 --> 00:21:05,480
I just, I'm exactly the same.
Nothing's different.

486
00:21:05,550 --> 00:21:08,160
I just can't say I'm in my 20s
anymore and that's it.

487
00:21:08,550 --> 00:21:10,280
And you?
You do look decrepit.

488
00:21:10,930 --> 00:21:14,280
Yeah, luckily I've been aged
from about 40 since I was about

489
00:21:14,290 --> 00:21:18,200
20, so it's no different.
No different to me at all.

490
00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:21,920
You're gonna look the same until
you're 45.

491
00:21:21,930 --> 00:21:24,230
It's great for you.
Yeah, that is a perk.

492
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,370
I do keep saying like, hey,
look, poor people do tend to

493
00:21:26,380 --> 00:21:27,930
just kind of look the same for a
long time.

494
00:21:27,940 --> 00:21:30,860
So yeah, just saying, just give
more wrinkly.

495
00:21:30,940 --> 00:21:33,000
But turning 30?
Yeah, weird one.

496
00:21:33,820 --> 00:21:36,850
There's definitely a few things
though that come with turning 30

497
00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:39,790
or being in your 30s in general,
and we definitely have started.

498
00:21:40,370 --> 00:21:42,590
Have you bought loads of stuff
to keep your garden green,

499
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,630
including some kind of shoe?
Construction.

500
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,410
Oh, are you exposing the fact
that we haven't still haven't

501
00:21:48,420 --> 00:21:51,130
got past the point in which
forgot to pass that bit that

502
00:21:51,140 --> 00:21:52,260
we've wasted all that time.
We haven't.

503
00:21:52,270 --> 00:21:54,170
We haven't added loads in
though, made it even longer, So

504
00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:56,540
we're not very good at making it
shorter, you know.

505
00:21:56,550 --> 00:22:00,870
So I'm gonna show you a device
that I've bought because I

506
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,420
pretend to have not seen it or.
Pretend to not seen it for this

507
00:22:04,430 --> 00:22:07,030
in the viewers.
So this is something I haven't

508
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,820
showed yet.
You gotta pretend in a minute.

509
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:12,920
So I bought for my garden
because I'm 30 now.

510
00:22:14,250 --> 00:22:18,140
Some shades, some air rating
shoes, check them out.

511
00:22:18,150 --> 00:22:21,100
So if you're not watching the
video right now, these are

512
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:24,640
essentially a big chunk of
plastic that wraps around your

513
00:22:24,650 --> 00:22:26,230
shoe.
It has massive spikes on the

514
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,280
bottom, loads and loads of
nails, and you use it.

515
00:22:29,370 --> 00:22:31,330
I'm going to make sure you still
interested.

516
00:22:31,340 --> 00:22:35,030
And we use it to walk across the
garden, punch a bunch of holes

517
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,350
in it, aerate it, Oh yeah, get
the air in your soil, fertilise

518
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:41,970
your garden, and then your grass
grows back nice and green.

519
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,620
Yeah, it's it's it's as least
riveting as last time.

520
00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:50,290
It's less riveting.
It's as it's as riveting as last

521
00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:55,140
time which is 0 out of 10.
It's as least riveted as the

522
00:22:55,150 --> 00:23:00,460
lasting time.
Echoes Stellan and his speaking.

523
00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:03,890
You know what the only
prerequisite for running a

524
00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:05,570
podcast is?
Can you speak properly?

525
00:23:05,580 --> 00:23:07,190
And I fell on that.
No.

526
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,610
Can you can?
You can you record properly?

527
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,570
No, no.
We gotta do it again.

528
00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:16,590
We're gonna do it anyway.
We're gonna pop it anyway.

529
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,540
You take the Mick out of my
recent obsession with gardening,

530
00:23:20,550 --> 00:23:23,930
which you know, comes to the
30s, but you've been in your 30s

531
00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:27,150
forever because the other, like,
cliche thing of your 30s is

532
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,370
getting into golf.
And you've been, you've got

533
00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:32,430
into, like, really into golf.
I'd say like in terms of me and

534
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,440
you.
Being friends, you you've really

535
00:23:35,450 --> 00:23:37,120
got obsessed with golf, like
three years ago.

536
00:23:37,130 --> 00:23:40,800
So yeah, yeah, it was it.
I always say when COVID, the

537
00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:42,660
first thing that came back after
COVID was like golf.

538
00:23:42,670 --> 00:23:44,000
It was like the perfect COVID
game.

539
00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:46,060
But yeah, I've, I've been
playing golf forever.

540
00:23:46,110 --> 00:23:48,860
Like I I think I've got a set of
golf clubs for my 13th birthday.

541
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:50,940
So I played on and on and off
for ages.

542
00:23:51,490 --> 00:23:53,320
But that is one of the other
things.

543
00:23:53,330 --> 00:23:55,560
And I saw a meme and this is
where it's kind of come from.

544
00:23:55,570 --> 00:23:58,690
It was like men really do turn
30 and make one of these their

545
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:02,010
whole personality.
One was G1 was just like a lawn

546
00:24:02,020 --> 00:24:04,580
that was really green.
Another one was a BBQ.

547
00:24:04,590 --> 00:24:05,660
It's so true.
Isn't.

548
00:24:05,670 --> 00:24:09,690
It God, I really want true.
Everyone knows it was bad when

549
00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:11,450
it comes to popular audit.
I'll do it.

550
00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:12,830
I'll do it.
I'll do it.

551
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,610
Me.
Give it to me.

552
00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:15,770
I can make a mean sausage.
OK?

553
00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:19,370
And halloumi halloumi on my.
My step Macross.

554
00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:22,770
Steph Macross?
Yeah, sorry, I was gonna pitch

555
00:24:22,780 --> 00:24:26,760
pitch a chicken onto my BBQ
perfectly, that's what.

556
00:24:27,550 --> 00:24:29,940
I've always thought that was
like a bit, you know, different,

557
00:24:29,950 --> 00:24:30,720
unique.
Growing up.

558
00:24:30,730 --> 00:24:32,150
Absolutely.
Just becoming the most

559
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,500
stereotypical cliche man ever.
Just getting into the same

560
00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:36,940
stuff.
You see these videos that

561
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:39,260
exposed you completely and
you're like, oh, I am just

562
00:24:39,310 --> 00:24:41,100
generic.
Yes, that's good.

563
00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:43,580
Yeah, that's a lovely waste of
time there.

564
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:46,180
So nice one.
It was probably move on to the

565
00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:48,480
main bulk of the episode should
be and fight.

566
00:24:48,490 --> 00:24:51,840
And finally, we are now at the
point where this is brand new,

567
00:24:51,850 --> 00:24:54,050
so.
I remember something, so we're

568
00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:56,700
going back in time again.
This is episode 26.

569
00:24:56,890 --> 00:25:00,950
Which is halfway through a year.
So we are now at the half point.

570
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,080
That's pretty cool, right?
And now we're at the point where

571
00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:07,650
we've not said anything before,
but also that's probably we

572
00:25:07,660 --> 00:25:09,820
should have said that when we
said we were on episode 26,

573
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:12,020
which was like 20 minutes ago.
So anyways.

574
00:25:12,030 --> 00:25:17,510
Should we record the whole lot?
You are listening to this

575
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,400
whether you like it or not,
whether you can hear us or not.

576
00:25:19,410 --> 00:25:28,440
So see you in a minute.
Welcome back.

577
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,010
And Hayden, Are you ready to
have a conversation we've not

578
00:25:31,020 --> 00:25:32,470
had yet you looking forward to
that this week?

579
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,320
Take one, take one.
And if you're listening to this,

580
00:25:37,330 --> 00:25:39,030
it made the cut.
So well done us for being able

581
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,570
to do something we've done for
half a year anyway, We're

582
00:25:42,580 --> 00:25:45,110
thinking because you know, we
decide we took that decision,

583
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,550
didn't we hate.
And to continue this podcast all

584
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,570
the way through the summer
holidays.

585
00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:50,950
The main reason is because we
actually just really enjoy doing

586
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,350
it.
It's a good laugh for us and you

587
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,380
know, we want to just we don't
want to break them out.

588
00:25:55,390 --> 00:25:58,150
As soon as we stop doing
something, we just come off the

589
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,580
waggon.
Don't.

590
00:25:58,590 --> 00:26:01,210
We we're so proud of that.
That is our worst habit.

591
00:26:01,220 --> 00:26:04,470
Genuinely that it's like the,
you know, like people saying

592
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,430
business, you should try and get
people who like, have different

593
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,750
skill sets.
Me and Dylan are both absolutely

594
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,630
terrible at like, just
forgetting to do something once

595
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,990
we stop doing it, and it's not
routine.

596
00:26:14,130 --> 00:26:16,910
Umm, so yeah, you have to keep
doing it.

597
00:26:17,150 --> 00:26:19,070
You suggesting this podcast is a
business owner?

598
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,310
Because if so, where's my share?
Because I've not got.

599
00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:25,250
Ohh well, I've been.
I've been making all the money

600
00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:30,170
from the merch store that we're
making this year, Underfed baby.

601
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,620
And if you daft means do let us
know.

602
00:26:33,770 --> 00:26:36,480
Yeah.
But basically it just got me

603
00:26:36,490 --> 00:26:37,920
thinking.
You see a lot of this online as

604
00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:40,800
well, Hayden where I'm on the on
Twitter on our account and I

605
00:26:40,810 --> 00:26:43,580
know you mentioned Mr Pi guess
last week put a video out just

606
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:46,540
around this kind of idea of the
summer holidays and we had a

607
00:26:46,550 --> 00:26:49,230
real actually with him which
sparked a bit of debate that

608
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,580
will come onto.
But the general idea of this

609
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:53,610
podcast, I think it's just a
dive a bit more into the summer

610
00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:56,480
holidays because I think if
you're a teacher the summer

611
00:26:56,490 --> 00:27:00,120
holidays can be very different
from person to person from each

612
00:27:00,130 --> 00:27:03,100
teacher for a number of reasons.
But also I know we have a lot of

613
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:05,920
listeners who aren't in
education and we'll have this

614
00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:08,340
idea of the summer holidays as
well as this kind of bliss

615
00:27:08,350 --> 00:27:12,520
utopia where every summer
teachers get six weeks off work

616
00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:15,770
and and it's just planned in and
they get to be of their children

617
00:27:15,780 --> 00:27:18,620
who are obviously off work at
the same time if they have kids.

618
00:27:18,730 --> 00:27:22,600
And it's this very positive vibe
and I think often uses that

619
00:27:22,610 --> 00:27:25,780
stick to beat us with as if to
say well what do you got moan,

620
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:27,740
you got that six week summer
holiday.

621
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,700
And I think the the thing I
wanted to dive into first and we

622
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:32,770
can go into the details of the
reels and what people have said

623
00:27:32,780 --> 00:27:36,050
and stuff.
It's just our experience of the

624
00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:40,490
summer holiday in general,
because it's not always this

625
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:44,670
bliss kind of utopian idea of
what a lovely six weeks after

626
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,650
rest and recharge.
And you've spoken about it

627
00:27:46,660 --> 00:27:48,010
before.
Hayden and I get the same kind

628
00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:50,390
of feeling sometimes.
So in general, what's your idea?

629
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,940
This, all of this?
Because we're not grateful, are

630
00:27:51,950 --> 00:27:52,870
we?
It is lovely.

631
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,130
No, no, not at all.
And And I look forward to it

632
00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:58,010
every single year.
I never, ever, ever, ever

633
00:27:58,020 --> 00:28:00,840
begrudge having it or regret
taking it.

634
00:28:00,850 --> 00:28:02,770
Do you know what I mean?
It's it's definitely a treasure

635
00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:07,410
time, but and I don't know how.
Common this is, and I think my

636
00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:09,750
eyes were opened more a bit more
recently and maybe thinking I

637
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,800
wasn't alone but I've always
struggled, always struggled with

638
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,300
the Blues in generally, like
school holidays, not even just

639
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:22,110
the summer holidays.
I don't know what it is, but I

640
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:24,370
just find my I always just get a
bit down.

641
00:28:24,380 --> 00:28:27,650
My mood always just goes right
down, despite having like the

642
00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:29,830
thing that you think you want
the most is right there at your

643
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,600
fingertips.
And and I think it's because

644
00:28:33,610 --> 00:28:37,420
it's like the lack of routine,
um, even when I'm knackered and

645
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:40,620
working and stuff, for some
reason I have like a base level

646
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:42,920
of happiness still, even though
I'm absolutely exhausted by the

647
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:45,050
term.
And then in the summer holidays

648
00:28:45,060 --> 00:28:47,860
in particular, I just find my
mood just goes like this over

649
00:28:47,870 --> 00:28:50,250
time, literally just gets lower
and lower and lower.

650
00:28:50,260 --> 00:28:51,760
And then I'll find myself
miserable by the end.

651
00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:52,940
And I'm thinking, what is wrong
with me?

652
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:55,120
Like it's summer.
I should be doing everything I

653
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:57,470
want to do.
And I really do just think it

654
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,960
is, because it's not routined
and I'm one of those people that

655
00:28:59,970 --> 00:29:02,780
really just, I need that.
The team I need to be knowing

656
00:29:02,790 --> 00:29:06,090
what I'm doing, keep my mind
occupied all the time.

657
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,940
And if I have too many days
where I've not really got

658
00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:11,160
anything planned, I will just
sit there and Stew and I'll just

659
00:29:11,170 --> 00:29:13,120
sit on my phone.
I'll watch a bit of TV.

660
00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:14,800
I won't do anything.
And then I'll get the end of the

661
00:29:14,810 --> 00:29:16,490
day and be annoyed that I've
done nothing.

662
00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:18,640
And I'll see that my mates have
been, are we booked this thing?

663
00:29:18,650 --> 00:29:20,450
And I'm thinking, I've sat here
all day.

664
00:29:20,460 --> 00:29:22,350
I didn't even think about
booking something for the

665
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,950
future, like I didn't even plan
anything.

666
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,010
What's wrong with me?
And yeah, I just get really down

667
00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:29,140
in the dumps and I hate that.
And I always thought I was

668
00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:30,810
alone, so I've never spoke about
it before.

669
00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:32,590
I don't know.
Do you?

670
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,890
Do you get like that?
I don't even know.

671
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,050
Yes, it's you.
I I get it then summer holidays

672
00:29:37,060 --> 00:29:39,190
for sure.
I sometimes get like that on a

673
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,430
Sunday in term time as well
though it because especially

674
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080
where those weekends when we
worked full time, those weekends

675
00:29:45,090 --> 00:29:47,650
were so valuable.
If I felt like I'd wasted a

676
00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:51,100
Sunday and almost not had that
great amazing time and not done

677
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:54,030
that thing over and above and
beyond, I got annoyed at myself

678
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,730
that I'd wasted that day.
And I do wonder if in the summer

679
00:29:56,740 --> 00:29:59,970
holidays, I think there's some
kind of middle ground that I

680
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:03,540
passed through where it's OK to
have some days where it's just,

681
00:30:03,550 --> 00:30:05,600
you know, rest and relax and
recharge.

682
00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:07,100
Yeah.
But like we said, everyone's so

683
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:09,930
different.
And I think knowing that, like

684
00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:11,860
for example, have you ever
thought if you think you've

685
00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:14,680
identified that it's down to
your routine, so you might think

686
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:16,680
it's down to your routine?
Maybe.

687
00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:18,880
For me, I think it's more
purpose.

688
00:30:18,890 --> 00:30:21,430
I like seeing that what I've
done has an outcome, whether

689
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,640
that's me feeling more relaxed
or me feeling like if I teach a

690
00:30:24,650 --> 00:30:26,470
week of maths, I feel like the
kids have made some good

691
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,480
progress there.
Or even the summer holidays.

692
00:30:28,490 --> 00:30:31,170
We go away for a weekend and I
feel like I've had a really fun

693
00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:32,580
time.
Whatever it is.

694
00:30:32,590 --> 00:30:34,390
I like eating something at the
end of it.

695
00:30:34,540 --> 00:30:38,990
But I I certainly get frustrated
or annoyed if I if I just kind

696
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,930
of just float through a day
because I think, well, OK, well,

697
00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:45,050
I could have got this done in
the house, even if it's a boring

698
00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:46,390
task.
I could have got that done.

699
00:30:46,430 --> 00:30:50,130
I could have moved my cups from
my table, yeah.

700
00:30:50,170 --> 00:30:52,980
But you know, just this generic
idea and and if you've

701
00:30:52,990 --> 00:30:56,080
identified it's your routine and
some other people say that

702
00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:58,470
online as well, have you tried
to do anything about that?

703
00:31:00,250 --> 00:31:02,460
I don't know.
I mean, I I think when I

704
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:05,580
recognise it, I do.
Yeah, I guess so, like in a way

705
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:08,760
and not not probably as good as
I could have done, but like I

706
00:31:08,770 --> 00:31:11,090
will do something.
I'll I'll try and do something

707
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,840
because I know that I will get
the the satisfaction at the end

708
00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:15,040
of it.
I'm probably the same as you in

709
00:31:15,050 --> 00:31:17,720
that respect.
If I've achieved something, I

710
00:31:17,730 --> 00:31:19,520
think mine's more like an
achievement.

711
00:31:19,630 --> 00:31:25,000
If I've achieved something
quantifiable in that day, that

712
00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:28,360
will make me feel good.
And but the problem is I don't

713
00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:33,040
value like relaxation and stuff
like that as an achievement.

714
00:31:33,130 --> 00:31:35,710
I see it as a wasted opportunity
and I think I've shot.

715
00:31:35,790 --> 00:31:39,390
Myself in the foot and and maybe
you you as well, maybe not as

716
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,090
much.
I know that our like business

717
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,970
relationship has always been
quite interesting and that I'll

718
00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:47,530
always want to just like burn
the candle at both ends for some

719
00:31:47,540 --> 00:31:50,230
reason and you'll be a bit more
like Oh my God just chill.

720
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,650
We've done we've done so much
this week.

721
00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:55,250
Let's just not.
And I think I have ruined my

722
00:31:55,260 --> 00:32:00,010
brain a little bit because we
spent a good three to four years

723
00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:03,730
absolutely grinding, didn't we,
with like we were full time

724
00:32:03,740 --> 00:32:06,390
teachers and we started to build
our business.

725
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:08,600
Our tutoring business, which
we've talked about in another

726
00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:11,200
episode if you want to check out
how that led to us going part

727
00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:13,770
time.
But we had a we had a good like

728
00:32:13,780 --> 00:32:18,710
3 solid years of being full time
and all we did on our evenings

729
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,480
and weekends was run our
business and build that and and

730
00:32:21,490 --> 00:32:24,520
I just, I think it was long
enough to get my brain into this

731
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:27,710
um.
Like I've retrained it to be

732
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,810
like, ohh, now you only feel
satisfied if you achieve this

733
00:32:30,820 --> 00:32:33,090
astronomical amount of stuff per
week.

734
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,190
And then when we've we've we've
dropped that now because we, I

735
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,640
think we're retraining our
brains in.

736
00:32:37,650 --> 00:32:39,550
You have definitely taken the
lead on this and I do really

737
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,990
appreciate it because there's no
way I would have done it on my

738
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,430
own of just being like, cool.
Now stop.

739
00:32:45,970 --> 00:32:47,530
Yeah.
You're going to have all your

740
00:32:47,540 --> 00:32:49,030
evenings back.
We're not going to do any work

741
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,710
on the evenings now, Hayden.
We're not going to do it.

742
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,620
And even if I do it, you'll be
like, cool, you crack on, I'm

743
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:54,470
not doing it.
And it always, like, brings you

744
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,130
back down to be like, OK, this
is not a thing that we're not

745
00:32:57,140 --> 00:32:58,510
both.
In this right now, this is me

746
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,840
choosing to and I just need to
go one step further.

747
00:33:01,850 --> 00:33:04,090
And I think I think next year
we'll be really good.

748
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:07,260
I know we're trying to continue
doing that and clawing back some

749
00:33:07,270 --> 00:33:09,690
time.
I just need to appreciate it and

750
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:13,160
that's my biggest problem.
I don't appreciate my relaxation

751
00:33:13,170 --> 00:33:14,560
time.
I don't value it because I'm not

752
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:16,980
achieving something.
Yeah.

753
00:33:16,990 --> 00:33:19,430
And and and in in realistic
times you are achieving

754
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,700
something aren't you know but
that that's this this kind of we

755
00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:26,230
talk about it in general but
summer holidays I think really

756
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,090
exacerbates this for people and
there's a lot of things where

757
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:32,850
teachers can sometimes be seen
as ungrateful almost if they

758
00:33:32,860 --> 00:33:35,290
ever dare to talk about summer
holidays and this kind of

759
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:37,450
negative light.
And I think we just need more of

760
00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:39,210
a debate around it and I think
it's really good online.

761
00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:41,860
I do see a lot of that and and
people being very honest and

762
00:33:41,870 --> 00:33:45,550
truthful and a really big thing
and and I can see this

763
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,900
especially, you know, when I was
younger, I've got a really solid

764
00:33:48,910 --> 00:33:51,340
group of friends.
You know, we do certain stuff

765
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:54,770
that is routine and like for
example playing football and if

766
00:33:54,780 --> 00:33:57,420
we wanna do something it's the
kind of thing where we can we

767
00:33:57,430 --> 00:34:00,040
can just message each other and
get that sorted and stuff.

768
00:34:00,110 --> 00:34:04,380
But I can see how for a lot of
people in the summer holidays

769
00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:08,340
especially, it can be quite
isolating because teaching is so

770
00:34:08,350 --> 00:34:11,840
intense that for you know, 6-7,
eight weeks you're basically

771
00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:13,719
just thinking about work,
especially in the mindset that

772
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:16,560
we were in previously.
You're getting stuff done.

773
00:34:16,570 --> 00:34:18,570
Your weekends are taken up
because you got to get that

774
00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:20,900
history unit planned or you've
got to tweak that mass planning.

775
00:34:20,969 --> 00:34:24,260
It ekes into so much of your
life that it's basically a

776
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:26,290
rollercoaster ride for eight
weeks where you can't come off

777
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:28,760
it in a social aspect.
And then you're kind of given

778
00:34:28,770 --> 00:34:31,480
six weeks at the end and
expected, but go on then social

779
00:34:31,489 --> 00:34:33,210
butterfly.
Off you go, go and spread your

780
00:34:33,219 --> 00:34:36,590
wings, go and see everyone.
And people really struggle with

781
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,889
that dynamic because everyone
carries on working at the pace

782
00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:41,770
that they've been working at.
We go on a roller coaster and

783
00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:44,320
then sit down for a rest.
Everyone else is just on the

784
00:34:44,330 --> 00:34:47,300
ghost ride, you know, just going
along nicely, you know there's

785
00:34:47,310 --> 00:34:50,570
no change of pace there and I've
seen a lot of people talk about

786
00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:53,670
loneliness and it's it's not a
nice thing to talk about, but it

787
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,630
is rife in our society and it
seems to be both ends of the

788
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,870
kind of generational spectrum.
Older people we know get lonely,

789
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,110
but those young professionals
who put so much of their time

790
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,170
into job and especially teachers
pre family, so you know you

791
00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:07,950
don't have your kids to look
after and stuff and then some

792
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,970
holidays, even those people as
well just get very lonely in the

793
00:35:11,980 --> 00:35:13,760
holidays I think.
Someone said to me before, I

794
00:35:13,770 --> 00:35:15,760
don't know if we've talked about
this, I don't think we have.

795
00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:19,580
So once said to me that
teachings are really, really

796
00:35:19,590 --> 00:35:23,230
lonely job and I didn't really
get what they meant at the time.

797
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:24,560
I was thinking, what you talking
about?

798
00:35:24,690 --> 00:35:27,460
We're constantly talking.
We're constantly surrounded by

799
00:35:27,470 --> 00:35:29,700
people.
Like we're in a classroom of 30

800
00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:31,260
kids all day.
Like, what do you mean it's

801
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:33,540
lonely?
And then they explained it to me

802
00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:35,950
and I was like, oh man, I
understand this.

803
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,790
And they were basically saying
they're like, yeah, but.

804
00:35:38,490 --> 00:35:43,330
You're basically isolated as an
adult, so your own social, you

805
00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:45,860
know, your real social
interactions, you're not really

806
00:35:45,870 --> 00:35:48,710
having any of them.
You spend 6-7 hours of the day.

807
00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:51,590
To basically leading meetings
because you're just leading a

808
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,880
classroom of children that
you're not.

809
00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:54,640
They're not really your
socialising people.

810
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:56,960
You might be pretending to
socialise and teaching them

811
00:35:56,970 --> 00:35:58,610
about being social, but you're
not.

812
00:35:58,620 --> 00:36:01,290
You're not really socialising.
It can be quite lonely.

813
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:03,980
And I was like, ohh, you're
right actually, because a lot

814
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:06,550
and a lot of jobs.
You will work with colleagues

815
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,490
your age and you'll be working
in an office or something like

816
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:09,670
that.
And you will just be able to

817
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,580
have lots of like casual social
interactions maybe throughout

818
00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:15,320
the day even though you getting
work done as well.

819
00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:16,760
I was like, yeah, that's kind of
true.

820
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,720
So there is, there is an element
of like a risk of loneliness I

821
00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:24,240
think in this job for sure.
Yeah and it and it just I think

822
00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:26,800
the the way that the job set out
exacerbates that and some

823
00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:30,180
holidays is like a real hotspot.
And I've really enjoyed seeing

824
00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:32,810
not it's not nice to see someone
say they're lonely or but it

825
00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:35,560
I've really enjoyed seeing
online people being really open

826
00:36:35,570 --> 00:36:38,580
about it basically and and then
people replying and then getting

827
00:36:38,590 --> 00:36:40,900
in touch.
And I think you mentioned a

828
00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:44,560
video again, Lee did well our
guest last week along those

829
00:36:44,570 --> 00:36:45,520
lines.
Yeah.

830
00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:48,000
So I ICT with Mr P going to call
him that.

831
00:36:48,010 --> 00:36:50,530
That's his brand name, I guess.
But Lee, who was our guest last

832
00:36:50,540 --> 00:36:54,100
week, he I don't know.
What it was I watched about a

833
00:36:54,110 --> 00:36:57,230
week ago but he did it like a
real and he was just, yeah, it

834
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:59,340
was just talk about exactly this
and just saying how, yeah, some

835
00:36:59,350 --> 00:37:01,710
people do struggle through the
summer and you should just like

836
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,550
look out for your team mates
basically because they're not

837
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,390
all gonna be just we can't
assume they will just be having

838
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,170
this great time because they've
got time off work.

839
00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:11,820
They might actually be quite
lonely and feeling isolated and

840
00:37:11,830 --> 00:37:14,210
feeling out of routine and
anxious because of that and then

841
00:37:14,220 --> 00:37:17,300
feeling a bit down in the dumps,
which is basically how I always

842
00:37:17,310 --> 00:37:19,450
feel by the end of the summer
holidays.

843
00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:23,370
It's mad, he in our episode last
week.

844
00:37:23,830 --> 00:37:25,920
He asked a really interesting
question and we did actually

845
00:37:25,930 --> 00:37:28,100
clip this out as a reel as well
and it went, he put it on his

846
00:37:28,110 --> 00:37:35,240
Facebook and on his Instagram.
And he Lee, asked would we trade

847
00:37:35,250 --> 00:37:40,880
in our school holidays and have
just not like normal standard

848
00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:44,100
holidays across the year, which
is like 4 weeks standard

849
00:37:44,110 --> 00:37:45,720
holidays.
You kind of like Burke, you

850
00:37:45,730 --> 00:37:49,240
choose your holidays, but we
work normal school hours.

851
00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:52,460
And me and you were both like, I
think we would, I think we would

852
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:55,530
pick normal school hours.
And sacrifice some holidays.

853
00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:58,190
But he put it on his social
media and I thought was so

854
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,290
interesting Cos obviously got
tonnes of interaction and I've

855
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:03,490
picked out a couple of comments.
Dylan, you haven't seen these,

856
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,550
so I just thought I'd thought
Checo.

857
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,150
I tried to.
I picked three.

858
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:10,920
I won't say the context of them.
I'll let you decide why I'm

859
00:38:10,930 --> 00:38:13,300
reading it so very quickly
before you start.

860
00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:15,950
The problem we have on this, and
I'm sure the viewers maybe get

861
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,610
this sometimes, is we're we're
in a very similar life position

862
00:38:18,620 --> 00:38:20,400
aren't we?
Our our point of view on this

863
00:38:20,410 --> 00:38:22,870
they don't really ever like,
don't overlap massively.

864
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,650
So I'm really looking forward to
hearing some ideas that maybe I

865
00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:28,310
think ohh yeah take it off and
there's this person here like

866
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,770
no, don't because of this so.
Yeah, we're down to the point

867
00:38:30,780 --> 00:38:33,530
where we even work in the same
school, so even our literal

868
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:36,690
school experience is like
basically the same.

869
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,030
So here's the first one.
They said if I worked contracted

870
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,190
hours, I would take that option
as in trading the summer

871
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,090
holidays, without a doubt.
Being able to choose your

872
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:51,450
holidays like others is a perk.
Taking time with other half, not

873
00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:53,400
having to pay a fortune for
holidays.

874
00:38:53,410 --> 00:38:55,650
That's one I didn't think about
last time.

875
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,490
Just teach, just teach in front
of my kids.

876
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:00,210
Yes please.
So they're like big up the idea

877
00:39:00,220 --> 00:39:03,730
of you just work your contracted
hours and then they finished off

878
00:39:03,740 --> 00:39:06,780
saying this so far these
holidays and we're talking

879
00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:08,930
summer holidays because this was
very recent.

880
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,490
I have spent 42.
Hours in my classroom and

881
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:14,090
countless hours at home planning
for next year.

882
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:17,230
Roll onto my actual holiday away
from home and a computer.

883
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:20,480
So that one very much just backs
up what kind of like what we

884
00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:21,260
were saying.
Really.

885
00:39:22,270 --> 00:39:23,880
Yeah.
And and on that, whilst we're on

886
00:39:23,890 --> 00:39:27,160
this point quickly, I did ask
people on Instagram, I asked

887
00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:30,440
people how long have they spent
this summer holiday in school?

888
00:39:30,620 --> 00:39:32,940
Hmm.
So and it was linked to you said

889
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:34,090
a 42?
Hours.

890
00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:36,400
Yeah.
And and and there was one thing,

891
00:39:36,410 --> 00:39:40,530
there was one thing that linked
everyone pretty much who'd spent

892
00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:45,030
3-4 or five days in school and
it was moving classroom and and

893
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,140
it was saying yeah, yeah, I've
spent five days.

894
00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:48,620
It's got I had to move my
classroom.

895
00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:51,360
And it's just this again, this
idea, this crazy idea in

896
00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:55,030
teaching, where this huge job of
moving furniture, moving your

897
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,380
stuff, resetting everything,
doing all the backgrounds, doing

898
00:39:57,390 --> 00:39:59,630
this or that, which I just
happened to not have this year

899
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,130
because we're staying in the
same classroom.

900
00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:04,250
Yeah, but this person in another
school has been told they've got

901
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:06,370
to move classrooms and be like,
yeah, OK, see you in September.

902
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:07,570
It's like, sorry, do you
understand?

903
00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:10,560
This can't happen unless I come
in in my summer holidays for

904
00:40:10,570 --> 00:40:13,050
four days.
It's outrageous, isn't it?

905
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,850
It's actually, it's genuinely
mad and I'm going to do a little

906
00:40:15,860 --> 00:40:18,130
analogy now and I'm going to
read the next comment because it

907
00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:20,530
does kind of link nicely to a
wider point, right.

908
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,820
That to me is the same as I used
to work at Tesco, used to work

909
00:40:23,830 --> 00:40:25,840
as the.
That is the same as let's say we

910
00:40:25,850 --> 00:40:28,620
both worked at Asda, right?
And my store had a big

911
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:31,920
renovation over the summer and
they needed loads of they needed

912
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:35,090
staff to come in to get all the
shelves down and then get

913
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,660
everything back up again at the
end, right?

914
00:40:36,750 --> 00:40:40,950
But your store didn't.
It would be like in my my store.

915
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,920
We all just have to go in for
free for some reason and do that

916
00:40:43,970 --> 00:40:47,030
for like 5 days of work.
And because your store hasn't

917
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,760
been renovated, you don't.
It's like obviously you'd get

918
00:40:50,770 --> 00:40:52,720
paid at your store for doing
that.

919
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:55,280
Um.
Which leads me to my wider point

920
00:40:55,490 --> 00:40:57,330
after I read this next one.
So here's the next comment.

921
00:40:57,340 --> 00:41:01,260
OK, this person said.
Hmm.

922
00:41:01,330 --> 00:41:04,400
I already leave at half four and
don't do any work at home on the

923
00:41:04,410 --> 00:41:07,160
weekends, so I'd say no.
I love the long summer break.

924
00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:11,400
Yeah, which got me again.
That got loads of interaction.

925
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:13,300
Yeah, that.
That gets the point, I I bet.

926
00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:14,980
I bet people were replying to
that guy.

927
00:41:14,990 --> 00:41:15,800
Sorry.
How?

928
00:41:15,850 --> 00:41:17,840
Yeah, the first comment was how
do you do this?

929
00:41:18,260 --> 00:41:20,260
How do you do that?
And I'll tell you how.

930
00:41:20,310 --> 00:41:21,680
I'll tell you how because it's
the way.

931
00:41:21,830 --> 00:41:24,160
It's the wider thing and it's
not 100% of it.

932
00:41:24,170 --> 00:41:28,100
But this is probably the biggest
factor is it's it's not

933
00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:31,460
systemized whatsoever.
It's this job is mad.

934
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:34,720
It is pot luck.
But like your workload depends

935
00:41:34,730 --> 00:41:37,310
on what school you're at.
So we have this nationalised

936
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,640
system of pay, very, very rigid
and that's been really whittled

937
00:41:40,650 --> 00:41:42,660
down over the years because it
used to be a lot more ways you

938
00:41:42,670 --> 00:41:45,530
could be paid extra for extra
things, and that's really been

939
00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:48,110
crushed into the main pay scale
now.

940
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,010
So you know we're all paid the
same for this same job and the

941
00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:55,110
job is not remotely the same
anywhere you go.

942
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,690
And that is like another massive
bug bear of mine.

943
00:41:58,730 --> 00:42:00,480
Yeah.
And this is brilliant because

944
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:03,200
listeners, if you listen up
later on, we've got a toxic SLT

945
00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:05,920
segment and it really, really
leads nicely into this bit.

946
00:42:05,930 --> 00:42:08,660
So just just hold on to what
you're thinking right now.

947
00:42:08,730 --> 00:42:11,400
But I think about the schools
I've worked at.

948
00:42:11,530 --> 00:42:14,000
OK, So I've spent most of my
time at two schools.

949
00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:19,040
There's there's no way that
attitude would get me as far as

950
00:42:19,050 --> 00:42:22,150
the systems and the school does.
So this idea of, you know, I

951
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,880
think me and you sometimes are
guilty of just saying to people

952
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:26,380
like you got to change your
outlook.

953
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:28,100
Like come on guys, let me help
you out because we have the

954
00:42:28,110 --> 00:42:30,700
outlook of.
If it's not needed to be done

955
00:42:30,770 --> 00:42:33,170
and it's detrimental to your
well-being and it's basically

956
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:34,900
taking the Mick, then don't do
it.

957
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:38,390
I think we we are allowed to do
a lot of that because of the

958
00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:42,790
system we're in in our school,
which which is not very

959
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,020
detrimental to well-being and a
situation where you feel heard

960
00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:48,710
and things can change because
you say things and nothing's

961
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:50,480
kind of malicious or anything
like that.

962
00:42:50,570 --> 00:42:54,140
However, that that attitude, if
I had the same attitude in the

963
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:57,110
other school that I worked at,
then that wouldn't get me nearly

964
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,170
as far.
So, so to suggest it's just down

965
00:42:59,180 --> 00:43:01,330
to the person, you're absolutely
right, it's not.

966
00:43:01,470 --> 00:43:04,120
It is definitely from the
systems that we've built in

967
00:43:04,130 --> 00:43:05,960
different schools and the
expectations.

968
00:43:06,010 --> 00:43:08,820
It's just, it's just unfair.
Yeah.

969
00:43:08,830 --> 00:43:10,240
And then you get to extrapolate
that too.

970
00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:13,470
And there's 10s of thousands of
schools in the country and every

971
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,160
single one of them is different
as well.

972
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:18,700
It's like what?
So that person, I just think

973
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:20,700
about that for a second.
Those two people, they're both

974
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:22,100
teachers.
They both commented on this same

975
00:43:22,110 --> 00:43:23,240
post.
They're engaging with the same

976
00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:26,120
thing.
They let's just imagine they get

977
00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:28,660
they're on the same pay point,
they're getting paid the same.

978
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:31,210
One of them's doing like
considerably more work than the

979
00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:33,870
other one.
And I say I did put a disclaimer

980
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,980
in saying it's not 100% because
the scores, it is also just down

981
00:43:36,990 --> 00:43:39,480
to there are other factors like
even just your personal

982
00:43:39,490 --> 00:43:41,850
preferences as well.
Like you might just want to

983
00:43:41,860 --> 00:43:44,850
literally, I really want to jazz
up my classroom a bit more than

984
00:43:44,860 --> 00:43:46,510
I need to just because I think
it is nice.

985
00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:50,070
There are personal things as
well, but it's just I don't get

986
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,210
it.
I don't know what the answer is,

987
00:43:51,220 --> 00:43:56,350
but it's ludicrous that we have
this wildly, wildly, wildly

988
00:43:56,420 --> 00:43:59,030
volatile, versatile system where
everyone could do different

989
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,530
things but it's the same pay.
I think anyway 111 basic answer

990
00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:06,610
very quickly is just that if
anything you know we we just

991
00:44:06,620 --> 00:44:09,150
have to be paid for things we're
instructed and told to do.

992
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,290
Like I think that's the base
thing that I think people that

993
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:16,210
doesn't exist in teaching and I
think that's a really easy thing

994
00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:18,790
to do isn't it?
And it's like OK come in, we

995
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,730
want you to move classroom.
It's come in and move the

996
00:44:20,740 --> 00:44:23,240
classroom.
We'll pay you a day's wage If it

997
00:44:23,250 --> 00:44:25,190
doesn't get done in that day
we're going to pay you overtime

998
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,890
because you come in tomorrow to
get it done.

999
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,600
I can manage you.
I can come round and like ensure

1000
00:44:29,610 --> 00:44:31,290
you're doing your work properly
not taking the Mick.

1001
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:33,450
It doesn't take you 5 days.
You should take one that's just

1002
00:44:33,460 --> 00:44:35,660
part of managing people.
But you don't.

1003
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:38,700
You don't then jump to.
Well, people might do that, so

1004
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:41,310
we just won't pay them at all.
No, that's not the answer.

1005
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,150
No, that's not how the private
sector works, isn't it?

1006
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,630
Really.
That's how it works.

1007
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,820
If you're a quantity surveyor.
I've got lots of friends, that's

1008
00:44:48,830 --> 00:44:51,210
why I'm thinking of that.
And you're in one, you're in

1009
00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:55,830
one, You work for one company.
You know your expectations will

1010
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,340
be different.
But if you have, if you gotta do

1011
00:44:57,350 --> 00:44:58,390
a bunch of other time, they'll
pay you.

1012
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,840
But if you go to another
company, they don't have that

1013
00:44:59,850 --> 00:45:01,320
overtime.
They're not gonna pay for that.

1014
00:45:01,330 --> 00:45:02,730
Like you're just paid for what
you've done.

1015
00:45:02,740 --> 00:45:05,570
It's itemised and there's a list
of stuff that's going to take

1016
00:45:05,580 --> 00:45:07,130
you time and they pay you for
that time.

1017
00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:09,250
Absolutely.
Anyway, I'm going to stop there.

1018
00:45:09,260 --> 00:45:12,400
Here's my here's the third
comment and I just this is quite

1019
00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:13,210
cool.
It kind of rounded up

1020
00:45:13,220 --> 00:45:14,980
everything.
So this person said before my

1021
00:45:14,990 --> 00:45:18,630
daughter was born which and she
put in brackets 20 years ago so

1022
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,520
been teaching a long time.
I spent part of my summer in in

1023
00:45:21,530 --> 00:45:24,500
transitions in Transition summer
school to help children from

1024
00:45:24,510 --> 00:45:27,320
year six, year seven.
It was teaching and it was fun

1025
00:45:27,330 --> 00:45:30,120
activities and they were home by
4:00 and I loved it.

1026
00:45:30,190 --> 00:45:33,300
I taught for 22 years before I
had to get out so they were

1027
00:45:33,310 --> 00:45:35,940
quite the way they worded it was
interesting being out for eight

1028
00:45:35,950 --> 00:45:38,520
years now in another career and
I'm so much happier than my last

1029
00:45:38,530 --> 00:45:42,550
than my last years in school.
So it was just highlighting that

1030
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,430
fact and and a lot of teachers
have been around a long time say

1031
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,130
this, that it has changed big
time like the job used to be by

1032
00:45:50,140 --> 00:45:54,650
the sounds of it a lot more
enjoyable in terms of it was

1033
00:45:54,660 --> 00:45:56,860
manageable and people didn't
feel too stressed and they could

1034
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:59,970
do what they needed to do and go
home at reasonable times, work

1035
00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:02,120
reasonable hours.
So I just thought it was an

1036
00:46:02,130 --> 00:46:03,980
interesting one to finish up
with someone being like hey

1037
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:07,090
didn't used to be like this.
And also what's interesting to

1038
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:09,390
me about that is not only were
they paid better about then

1039
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,830
could put compared to how much
things cost like housing, food,

1040
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,130
et cetera.
But then they also felt in a

1041
00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:16,610
position where they could then
use their summer holidays to go

1042
00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:18,390
and bump up their pay with some
extra work.

1043
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,250
We've got some people who we
work with of that generation who

1044
00:46:21,260 --> 00:46:23,360
said they used to work through
there some holidays used to like

1045
00:46:23,370 --> 00:46:26,370
reading, reading incentives and
courses and stuff for children.

1046
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:28,270
And I can, I can imagine that I
would do that.

1047
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,890
It's the same thing I said a few
weeks ago about things like, you

1048
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:34,270
know, going to cross country at
the weekend and stuff if it's a

1049
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,130
reasonable job and we are paid
well.

1050
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,460
For it we are.
The teachers are the kind of

1051
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:41,130
people who will go above and
beyond and do that kind of thing

1052
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:42,820
and will want to work through
summers.

1053
00:46:43,050 --> 00:46:45,460
No one will do that now because
we resent doing it.

1054
00:46:45,530 --> 00:46:48,560
We're at the point now Hayden,
where some teachers are expected

1055
00:46:48,570 --> 00:46:51,700
to come in for holiday, summer
clubs and things to do, Sats

1056
00:46:51,710 --> 00:46:55,240
preparation during term time and
you know it's just, it's just

1057
00:46:55,250 --> 00:46:58,780
crazy during term time.
Yeah, you have not heard like in

1058
00:46:58,790 --> 00:47:02,840
like holidays and stuff.
So like the term the one before

1059
00:47:02,850 --> 00:47:05,880
where Sats happens, they'll do
like booster clubs in half term

1060
00:47:05,890 --> 00:47:08,430
or they'll do Saturday morning.
Used to clubs where the children

1061
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,220
come in and it's kind of
depending again on what system

1062
00:47:11,230 --> 00:47:13,790
you're in, what school you're
in, how experienced you are and

1063
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,720
confident enough to say no,
We've seen teachers taken for a

1064
00:47:17,730 --> 00:47:20,770
ride constantly haven't we, who
are just a bit younger, SLT are

1065
00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:24,320
experienced, They don't care and
they take advantage of the fact

1066
00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:25,990
that you're experienced.
And we'll just say yes to

1067
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,280
something to say, oh, we're
doing this Saturday club for

1068
00:47:28,290 --> 00:47:31,250
Sats but you see you there.
You know, that kind of like

1069
00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:33,030
strong armed question.
Not a real question.

1070
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,670
Yeah, See you there.
We're doing that.

1071
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,010
And then they're like, Oh yeah,
OK And they just go along and do

1072
00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:38,770
it.
Absolutely lovely people just

1073
00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:41,420
being taken for a ride.
Yeah, it's not fair.

1074
00:47:41,470 --> 00:47:43,200
It's not fair.
That's why we started this

1075
00:47:43,210 --> 00:47:45,280
podcast, because we want to
stand up for those people.

1076
00:47:45,350 --> 00:47:46,790
And you know what has been quite
nice?

1077
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,540
We have had a few people write
in or even speak to us and say

1078
00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:51,520
thanks for that because I
listened to that and then I

1079
00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:54,600
ended up telling my SLT no or
whatever, You know, they said

1080
00:47:54,730 --> 00:47:56,630
actually no, I was getting taken
for a mug and I just needed

1081
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,120
someone to tell me that it's OK
to put your foot down sometimes.

1082
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:03,740
I think that's the number one
thing that I would love to see

1083
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:06,450
in teaching happen a bit more
and I know being in a senior

1084
00:48:06,460 --> 00:48:08,380
leadership team is extremely
stressful.

1085
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:10,060
OK.
And we don't do that job and I

1086
00:48:10,070 --> 00:48:11,770
understand there are things we
need to get done.

1087
00:48:12,410 --> 00:48:16,420
But I I would just love to
transform a few people, a few

1088
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:20,680
ideas where that doesn't
transform into top down.

1089
00:48:20,690 --> 00:48:23,990
Do this for me right now.
Really frustrating.

1090
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,530
But yeah, in general summer
holidays, I absolutely love

1091
00:48:26,540 --> 00:48:28,000
them.
Means my birthday is always in a

1092
00:48:28,010 --> 00:48:30,530
summer holiday.
So selfishly that's really nice

1093
00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:32,330
as well.
Not a perk many people get.

1094
00:48:32,380 --> 00:48:34,950
But yeah, you're right.
I think to beat people with a

1095
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,890
stick and and suggest that
there's one-size-fits-all for

1096
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:40,110
everyone, it's going to be
perfectly lovely.

1097
00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:42,910
It it just doesn't make sense.
I did see someone hate and talk

1098
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,950
about.
They had children in school and

1099
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,480
they were like, please do not
change.

1100
00:48:48,490 --> 00:48:51,000
This is perfect for me.
I know it's a tough job.

1101
00:48:51,010 --> 00:48:53,650
I just ride the roller coaster
while I can, but I get six weeks

1102
00:48:53,660 --> 00:48:55,360
from my kids every year and
that's like that.

1103
00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:56,740
Like, that's priceless really,
isn't it?

1104
00:48:56,750 --> 00:48:58,540
Yeah, I actually saw a very
similar one.

1105
00:48:58,550 --> 00:49:00,600
It might have even been the same
thread or something.

1106
00:49:00,610 --> 00:49:05,020
But someone else then was saying
how that is abused to the

1107
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:07,020
maximum.
Like, they just, they know that

1108
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:10,000
people want the holidays to
spend time with their kids, so

1109
00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:12,020
they just absolutely keep.
They keep them in the game that

1110
00:49:12,030 --> 00:49:13,620
way.
They keep them in teaching.

1111
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:16,580
They'll always keep people in
teaching because they just

1112
00:49:16,590 --> 00:49:19,490
simply cannot afford because of
childcare, the childcare trap as

1113
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:24,230
they call it, they cannot afford
to to not do this job with these

1114
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,750
working hours.
So they'll just they'll just

1115
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,510
take advantage of them knowing
that they won't quit because

1116
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,910
they can't.
And tell you what, that problem

1117
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,410
translates a lot to teaching
assistants who are on a

1118
00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:35,890
pittance, nowhere near what they
should be paid.

1119
00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:38,910
But how many teaching assistants
have we worked with who are

1120
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,900
teaching assistants?
Because they can finish the job,

1121
00:49:40,910 --> 00:49:43,100
go and pick the kids up from
school, drop the kid off in the

1122
00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:46,500
morning, Come on, almost every
single one is going to say many,

1123
00:49:46,510 --> 00:49:47,740
many, all the time.
Yeah.

1124
00:49:47,790 --> 00:49:49,920
Or they used to do that.
And their kids growing up and

1125
00:49:49,930 --> 00:49:51,510
they just stayed in their job
because they got so used.

1126
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,780
Carried on.
Yeah, yeah.

1127
00:49:53,530 --> 00:49:55,660
Ohh, man.
Well anyway, moving on.

1128
00:49:55,870 --> 00:49:57,680
We've got two more segments
left, haven't we?

1129
00:49:57,690 --> 00:50:00,300
We've got, we've got some
stories in the classroom a bit

1130
00:50:00,310 --> 00:50:02,350
later on, which I'm looking
forward to it because I love it

1131
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,420
and I'm gonna say it now even
though we'll say it again later

1132
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:06,780
on.
Please write in your stories

1133
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:09,120
because not only does it make us
laugh for me, just get them

1134
00:50:09,130 --> 00:50:10,420
anyway.
We then get to share them on the

1135
00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:12,570
podcast and make each other
laugh even more.

1136
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:14,820
And I know Dylan's got a couple
of stories for later that I have

1137
00:50:14,830 --> 00:50:16,560
not seen, so I'm looking forward
to that.

1138
00:50:16,650 --> 00:50:19,660
And we've also, and it might
lead quite nicely on from from

1139
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:21,560
that one, we've got like a toxic
story.

1140
00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:23,340
So we do quite like to share in
this podcast.

1141
00:50:23,350 --> 00:50:25,600
We've got a lot of new new
listeners actually Dylan.

1142
00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:28,360
So let's do, we'll explain it a
bit more and we we like to.

1143
00:50:28,370 --> 00:50:31,880
Hello, thanks for joining us.
Made it this far.

1144
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,690
You made it this far after the
mess up in the intro and all

1145
00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:36,830
that.
Wow, guys, still take one, Still

1146
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,730
take one.
By the way.

1147
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:40,110
Yeah, this bit.
Yeah, We didn't cut anything.

1148
00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:43,260
So we like to share as much as
possible.

1149
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:45,340
And it does rely on you guys
writing things in most of the

1150
00:50:45,350 --> 00:50:46,970
time.
Some toxic stories as well.

1151
00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:49,130
Because you know what, we've got
a bit of a platform here.

1152
00:50:49,140 --> 00:50:51,890
We're trying to grow this
platform and if we can, we can

1153
00:50:51,980 --> 00:50:55,810
out these toxic stories that
happen in schools and maybe make

1154
00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:58,990
it a bit more commonplace to be
like, no, this is not cool, you

1155
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,510
know, stand up for people, then
That's something we'd like to

1156
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,620
do.
And and you know how it's

1157
00:51:03,630 --> 00:51:04,980
working again.
Do you know how we know it's

1158
00:51:04,990 --> 00:51:07,820
working going on?
Because after that episode

1159
00:51:07,830 --> 00:51:10,480
called When Schools become
Toxic, not only did we receive

1160
00:51:10,490 --> 00:51:13,940
up to upwards of 10 messages
from people saying thank you, we

1161
00:51:13,950 --> 00:51:16,860
also received our only ever one
star review on Apple Podcasts.

1162
00:51:17,150 --> 00:51:21,310
So meeting someone, I think
somebody didn't like what we

1163
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,550
were saying.
So if you can, help us out, if

1164
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,700
you've listened to this podcast
at any point or you've enjoyed

1165
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:30,760
what you've heard, it helps us
so much because we are fighting

1166
00:51:30,850 --> 00:51:33,260
A1 Star Review, especially if
you have an iPhone.

1167
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,670
Because we've got a
5*5*5*5*5*5*5*1 star and it just

1168
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,140
it just brings us down a bit.
But we're not going to stop,

1169
00:51:41,150 --> 00:51:43,140
because if that gets US1 star
review, we'll crack on.

1170
00:51:43,150 --> 00:51:44,430
We'll get 10 to one star
reviews.

1171
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,590
Who cares?
Yeah, we'll get more SLT riled

1172
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,170
up also.
On that note, should we Should

1173
00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:54,690
we play the Jingle and move on
to a toxic SLT story?

1174
00:51:54,700 --> 00:52:02,540
I got Yes, please.
Right, let's dive straight in.

1175
00:52:02,550 --> 00:52:05,500
Toxic SLT Hayden.
I've had this written into me.

1176
00:52:05,590 --> 00:52:08,120
It's going to obviously remain
anonymous because it is calling

1177
00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:11,660
out something that's they don't
like about their school.

1178
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:16,000
But you've not seen this.
I've seen this and I felt this,

1179
00:52:16,070 --> 00:52:18,720
and I hope you feel it too.
And I think a lot of people who

1180
00:52:18,730 --> 00:52:22,020
are teachers in particular, but
even people who just have

1181
00:52:22,030 --> 00:52:25,210
management, who expect a lot of
them for nothing, I think it's

1182
00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:27,120
relatable.
So I'm going to start reading.

1183
00:52:27,130 --> 00:52:28,010
Ready.
Yep.

1184
00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:32,220
OK, it starts off really nice.
Hey guys, recently found your

1185
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:33,660
podcast and I absolutely love
it.

1186
00:52:33,730 --> 00:52:37,210
I listened to five episodes in
one day whilst cracking on with

1187
00:52:37,220 --> 00:52:39,000
the housework and laughed so
much.

1188
00:52:39,010 --> 00:52:41,600
So that was nice to read.
That peaked my interest straight

1189
00:52:41,610 --> 00:52:43,080
away.
I'm gonna, yeah.

1190
00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:46,550
However, it's the Toxic Schools
episode you did that we just

1191
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,920
mentioned.
That really hit home and made me

1192
00:52:48,930 --> 00:52:52,280
want to write in.
I am currently absolutely bogged

1193
00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:55,460
down with work to do this summer
that's been dictated to us all.

1194
00:52:55,470 --> 00:52:58,880
In the name of change.
She's put in inverted commas.

1195
00:52:59,130 --> 00:53:01,570
I think that's it is changed.
But I think it's like this

1196
00:53:01,580 --> 00:53:03,330
because change sounds nice,
doesn't it?

1197
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:07,450
Then what's about to happen?
Yeah, so we are changing our

1198
00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:10,600
maths curriculum completely from
scratch, brand new.

1199
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:13,770
We're changing how we deliver
writing lessons, so that's about

1200
00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:16,530
half your English lessons.
We need to replan all of our

1201
00:53:16,540 --> 00:53:19,490
afternoon topics across the year
after our curriculum lead went

1202
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:22,790
to visit a nearby school in Term
6, who'd recently been praised

1203
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,910
from Ofsted.
Everything we do now in the

1204
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,690
afternoon has to be in line with
them.

1205
00:53:28,450 --> 00:53:32,960
The idea that we were changing a
lot was raised to SLT lightly in

1206
00:53:32,970 --> 00:53:34,440
a meeting.
We've all had that, haven't we?

1207
00:53:34,450 --> 00:53:36,240
In a meeting where someone kind
of wants to say something?

1208
00:53:36,250 --> 00:53:39,160
Tentatively, it was raised with
SLT in a meeting because that's

1209
00:53:39,170 --> 00:53:40,580
a lot to change.
We'll dive into that in a

1210
00:53:40,590 --> 00:53:41,420
minute.
That's just crazy.

1211
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:43,560
Yeah.
At the end of the year, it was

1212
00:53:43,570 --> 00:53:46,940
raised and their response was a
simple Don't worry, we're not

1213
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:50,840
changing much.
So now my summer is stacked with

1214
00:53:50,850 --> 00:53:55,020
planning, which says otherwise.
Why do we make so much work for

1215
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:59,730
ourselves at the same time that
is so, so pointless yours a

1216
00:53:59,740 --> 00:54:03,350
frustrated teacher, Anonymous.
And I can make her more

1217
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,310
frustrated because just there's
that guy that commented on that

1218
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,020
post earlier.
He's going out of four every

1219
00:54:08,030 --> 00:54:09,090
day.
It doesn't work at the weekends.

1220
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:10,100
Hasn't got any of this work to
do.

1221
00:54:10,110 --> 00:54:12,380
Same job, same pay.
Exactly.

1222
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:14,820
When when you said that story
out, I was like, I can't believe

1223
00:54:14,830 --> 00:54:17,240
how much this links in what's
crazy.

1224
00:54:17,310 --> 00:54:19,440
Ohh, that's just mental.
Like, I don't know.

1225
00:54:19,450 --> 00:54:21,180
I don't know how I should feel
about it because obviously

1226
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:23,420
schools have to do stuff that's
different.

1227
00:54:23,490 --> 00:54:27,230
Like obviously they do, but it
is just not fair.

1228
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:28,930
I don't know if I'm just
throwing my toys out of the pram

1229
00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:31,590
here.
It's not fair that that person

1230
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,950
has to do so much more for the
same amount of pay as the other

1231
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,920
person.
Their time is just not valued.

1232
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,450
For whatever reason, the the
thing that frustrates me the

1233
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:44,150
most of that whole thing,
because Hayden, Realistic and

1234
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,210
every teacher listening to this,
I'm going to back up what you

1235
00:54:46,220 --> 00:54:48,710
just said.
We know that we can't simply

1236
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,270
plan maths like once and then
that's maths done for the next

1237
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,220
10 years.
In year four.

1238
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:55,100
We know it's not as simple as
that because each cohort is

1239
00:54:55,110 --> 00:54:56,490
different.
You can react differently to

1240
00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:58,250
your groups.
There's going to be new research

1241
00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:00,810
is going to be new ideas, new
teachers, you deliver stuff

1242
00:55:00,820 --> 00:55:03,130
differently.
We're not that naive to say, oh

1243
00:55:03,140 --> 00:55:05,310
we're just playing everything
once and it stays there forever.

1244
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,010
What really gets me about this?
Because I've seen it.

1245
00:55:08,090 --> 00:55:12,220
And it wants me U is doing 4
things at once.

1246
00:55:12,570 --> 00:55:16,500
Simply like so to say that your
curriculum lead went to visit a

1247
00:55:16,510 --> 00:55:19,660
local school by the way, simply
because Ofsted said it was good,

1248
00:55:19,930 --> 00:55:22,590
like that's terrible in its own
so don't chase Ofsted's tail

1249
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,650
because they changed their mind
every two minutes anyway.

1250
00:55:24,850 --> 00:55:27,700
But for that to have happened,
OK, fair enough.

1251
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:30,380
We've been to other schools
after Ofsted just to see what

1252
00:55:30,430 --> 00:55:31,640
the what the experience was
like.

1253
00:55:31,650 --> 00:55:34,360
It's it's useful information.
But then come back and say,

1254
00:55:34,370 --> 00:55:37,080
cool, we're replanning the
entire afternoon curriculum

1255
00:55:37,210 --> 00:55:39,510
because of on the back of that.
Move.

1256
00:55:40,060 --> 00:55:43,860
Just think about the workload
that involves, because we are by

1257
00:55:43,870 --> 00:55:48,270
the way talking about geography
and history and science and

1258
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,080
anything else to do with topic,
very specific subjects.

1259
00:55:51,730 --> 00:55:54,400
But to do that knowing full well
that you've just bought into a

1260
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:57,460
new maths curriculum from
scratch, from the ground up.

1261
00:55:57,470 --> 00:56:00,640
So like an actual, actually she
was saying how it's an actual,

1262
00:56:01,310 --> 00:56:03,280
you know, a scheme of work.
It's not.

1263
00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:04,970
Just like you can use what
you've got and tweak it.

1264
00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:09,140
It is from the ground up.
It's just unbelievable.

1265
00:56:09,150 --> 00:56:11,910
It grinds my gears.
It comes from SLT, who are at

1266
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,100
the top watching all of this
happen and being like us, right?

1267
00:56:15,370 --> 00:56:18,210
Yeah, yeah, because they're in a
management position and it's a

1268
00:56:18,220 --> 00:56:22,340
very, very cliche thing to say,
but it's quite common, isn't it?

1269
00:56:22,350 --> 00:56:25,340
That people, once they've been
maybe out of the classroom for a

1270
00:56:25,350 --> 00:56:30,100
long enough time, they kind of
forget what it's like and forget

1271
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:33,040
how much extra workload there is
that it's hard to put your

1272
00:56:33,050 --> 00:56:35,800
finger on and say what it is,
but you're there every evening

1273
00:56:35,810 --> 00:56:37,620
till 5 for some reason.
You have to do another hour at

1274
00:56:37,630 --> 00:56:39,960
home and you can't really say
what it is because it's kind of

1275
00:56:39,970 --> 00:56:42,890
different things every week.
But there is a very common

1276
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,440
generalisation, isn't there,
that SLT forget that and then

1277
00:56:45,450 --> 00:56:47,110
they start doing things like
this.

1278
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,210
And I think it just needs to be
a bit of a reality check

1279
00:56:49,220 --> 00:56:51,930
sometimes and there should be
something that holds them

1280
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:55,310
accountable.
Like I know that Anu, when we

1281
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,570
went to that Zoom meetings,
remember ages ago that was like

1282
00:56:57,580 --> 00:57:00,250
it was about the strikes and all
that like but quite a while ago.

1283
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,830
And they put forward to the
government that there needs to

1284
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,060
be way more accountability on
work life balance, which is

1285
00:57:06,070 --> 00:57:08,720
exactly what that is, that this
woman is identify as a woman

1286
00:57:08,820 --> 00:57:13,510
presuming, yeah, well this this
this woman, her work life

1287
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,980
balance has been completely
skewed.

1288
00:57:14,990 --> 00:57:16,480
It's terrible.
That's not good.

1289
00:57:16,530 --> 00:57:18,820
And there should be something in
place that's like, no, that

1290
00:57:18,830 --> 00:57:20,790
can't, that literally can't
happen because you're completely

1291
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,760
abusing that person's rights and
working hours.

1292
00:57:23,770 --> 00:57:26,300
It's ridiculous.
And there's just not still the

1293
00:57:26,310 --> 00:57:27,960
government rejected it.
And they said, remember, they

1294
00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:30,300
said something like they didn't
just say no, it was something

1295
00:57:30,310 --> 00:57:33,630
like posterous idea.
Like it was like they were,

1296
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,640
like, disgusted with the idea.
That so their point was

1297
00:57:37,650 --> 00:57:40,600
basically they were like how
dare you suggest we take away

1298
00:57:40,610 --> 00:57:43,430
autonomy from schools to change
and improve stuff.

1299
00:57:43,490 --> 00:57:45,520
You know as if that's what we're
saying.

1300
00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:49,320
Like no, I'm sorry.
We're just we're workers who

1301
00:57:49,330 --> 00:57:53,000
want to be compensated for the
work we do that what are you on

1302
00:57:53,010 --> 00:57:55,620
about what?
It's it's an insane profession

1303
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:59,510
where you can just, you know,
just because that person went to

1304
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,180
that meeting right, they've now
got.

1305
00:58:02,410 --> 00:58:05,070
Hours and hours and hours and
hours of work.

1306
00:58:05,140 --> 00:58:07,690
And nothing changes their bank
balance at the end of the week.

1307
00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:10,410
Nothing changes what gets
dropped into their account that

1308
00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:13,890
that the mass lead at this
school could have just said, you

1309
00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:16,410
know, one more year then because
we're changing the curriculum.

1310
00:58:16,420 --> 00:58:17,790
You know, I don't know what came
first.

1311
00:58:17,860 --> 00:58:19,870
One more year because we're
doing all this work, then we'll

1312
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,660
change the mass curriculum and
and that would save 10s of hours

1313
00:58:24,670 --> 00:58:27,600
for each person every term.
But instead, instead they

1314
00:58:27,610 --> 00:58:29,310
didn't.
So now you've got to literally

1315
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,250
do 10 hours extra work each
month for nothing.

1316
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,370
Like.
Can you imagine?

1317
00:58:33,460 --> 00:58:35,760
Like you're doing the analogy
earlier I've asked the saying

1318
00:58:35,830 --> 00:58:38,950
needed to come in Sunday, 10
hours please and you're OK how

1319
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:39,870
much?
Hmm.

1320
00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:42,950
Just need it Just I've decided.
We've decided that we're

1321
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,100
rebranding the kitchen, the
kitchen area.

1322
00:58:45,110 --> 00:58:47,240
So we want we need you to come
in and do that.

1323
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:50,100
What's wrong with it?
What's what's wrong with the

1324
00:58:50,110 --> 00:58:52,620
kitchen area we've got now?
But as the down the road got a

1325
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:54,800
new one, we quite like it.
So can you come in and do us?

1326
00:58:55,330 --> 00:58:58,470
No, Ohh, but you're a Baker,
you've got to be in the kitchen

1327
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,000
you.
It's your place of work.

1328
00:59:00,070 --> 00:59:02,940
I know I'm not.
Yeah, yes, absolutely,

1329
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:06,310
absolutely.
We work quite closely with like

1330
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:07,940
a web development company, said
Dylan.

1331
00:59:08,210 --> 00:59:10,630
Had a website built last year
and we worked very closely with

1332
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,670
that company still and because
obviously there's a lot that

1333
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:13,910
goes into like managing a
website.

1334
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,310
That surprise, surprise.
And this again no surprise is

1335
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,720
that anytime we need something
from them that is itemised and

1336
00:59:22,730 --> 00:59:26,970
build every time that they have
a very high professional rate of

1337
00:59:26,980 --> 00:59:30,700
like ��60 per hour which is
genuinely like that sounds crazy

1338
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:33,940
I imagine to like teachers and
things but that's like a is a

1339
00:59:33,950 --> 00:59:36,360
very high rate but that is the
professional rate that you pay

1340
00:59:36,370 --> 00:59:37,540
for.
Like a graphic designer, web

1341
00:59:37,550 --> 00:59:39,940
designer who can software
develop this way.

1342
00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:42,680
And we pay it because like we
can't do it and they're not

1343
00:59:42,690 --> 00:59:44,860
going to do it.
They don't just do it for free

1344
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:48,620
for fun, it's timed and then we
get billed for that time and

1345
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:51,300
that's what I'd expect.
And we just don't have that in

1346
00:59:51,310 --> 00:59:54,850
this culture of of education.
It's just your time is just

1347
00:59:54,860 --> 00:59:56,730
worthless.
And that's awful.

1348
00:59:56,740 --> 00:59:59,970
But it just, it's just worth
nothing to the top.

1349
01:00:00,020 --> 01:00:01,630
The top top.
And that trickles down,

1350
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:06,440
unfortunately, to some SLT.
And it's at the whim of a few

1351
01:00:06,450 --> 01:00:09,870
individuals in each school or
each trust who allow this to

1352
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,390
happen.
These people are allowing it to

1353
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,110
happen.
The head teacher of this school

1354
01:00:15,180 --> 01:00:17,190
or the executive head, if
they're in a trust.

1355
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,550
Because you hear these horrible
stories about these executive

1356
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,720
head CEOs who kind of wear it as
a badge, a badge of honour, how

1357
01:00:23,730 --> 01:00:25,820
hard they make their staff work.
Yeah.

1358
01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:28,880
No.
It is because of you and your

1359
01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:31,900
systems and your culture.
You should be stepping in to

1360
01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:34,660
control this and you act.
Even if you don't do it

1361
01:00:34,670 --> 01:00:39,060
purposefully, you letting it
happen is as good as and that

1362
01:00:39,070 --> 01:00:42,620
needs to stop.
And I really passionately want

1363
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:45,080
to say people like this, who are
just doing their job, who are

1364
01:00:45,090 --> 01:00:47,560
just lovely people who don't
want to do the wrong thing.

1365
01:00:47,630 --> 01:00:49,660
How many teachers Hayden, have
you heard before say ohh.

1366
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:52,410
I just do what I'm told and and
and they're not being that.

1367
01:00:52,420 --> 01:00:54,310
They're being lovely.
There are these amazing

1368
01:00:54,370 --> 01:00:58,130
brilliant teachers who are just
being taken advantage of because

1369
01:00:58,140 --> 01:01:01,620
someone walked in who spends 2
days a week in their schools.

1370
01:01:01,630 --> 01:01:03,900
They got 7 schools to manage,
just walked in and said ohh

1371
01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:06,720
actually no this needs to happen
bye and they just expect it to

1372
01:01:06,730 --> 01:01:08,290
happen.
And who ends up doing all the

1373
01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:10,210
work?
The sorry people at the bottom.

1374
01:01:11,170 --> 01:01:14,020
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Enjoy.

1375
01:01:14,030 --> 01:01:16,810
It reminds me of King Curtis.
Do you remember that mean No,

1376
01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:19,900
that lad.
It was on a Wife Swap USA or

1377
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:23,540
something and he did a Wife Swap
and the new mum came in and told

1378
01:01:23,550 --> 01:01:24,830
him he can't have chicken
Nuggets anymore.

1379
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,030
He's got eat properly.
Ohh, I think I what's the quote?

1380
01:01:28,580 --> 01:01:32,210
Ohh, you come in here and we're
just sorry people.

1381
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,920
Was it with Jihad Heels on or
something like that?

1382
01:01:35,930 --> 01:01:39,190
Is that the one?
You will never see this face

1383
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,010
again at the back?
Yeah, back-to-back.

1384
01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:44,310
And that's what we need to do
guys.

1385
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,490
When that annoying CEO walks
into the room or that leader

1386
01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:50,150
comes in and says we've got to
change four things, you go King

1387
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,750
Curtis on him and tell him
you'll never see this face

1388
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,870
again.
But like, in all seriousness, I

1389
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,450
think, I think I'm at that level
of stubbornness now where I'm

1390
01:01:57,460 --> 01:02:00,770
sort of like if that happened
and luckily it's not happening.

1391
01:02:00,780 --> 01:02:03,720
I like the school we work out,
but if that happened.

1392
01:02:03,810 --> 01:02:06,120
And it was like, yeah, all these
things now and it's just this

1393
01:02:06,130 --> 01:02:08,320
crazy, intense workload on top
of everything else.

1394
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,300
I think I'd just be like no.
Because I I know my rights and I

1395
01:02:13,310 --> 01:02:15,280
know how protected I am as well.
So what you gonna do about it?

1396
01:02:15,330 --> 01:02:17,260
Genuinely, I think I'd be like,
what you gonna do?

1397
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:20,020
I will do my job to the to the.
I already do.

1398
01:02:20,030 --> 01:02:22,320
Way over the hours.
I do all my directed time.

1399
01:02:22,370 --> 01:02:24,580
I plan on teach lessons.
I'd meet all teaching standards.

1400
01:02:24,730 --> 01:02:27,800
I'm not doing that.
Yeah, completely.

1401
01:02:27,850 --> 01:02:29,560
Try something.
Nothing you can do.

1402
01:02:30,580 --> 01:02:33,460
I think that's that that's what
we need more of and and and it

1403
01:02:33,470 --> 01:02:35,740
is such a we talked about this a
million times on the podcast we

1404
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:38,750
need to go into again.
But it's such a leap of like it

1405
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,260
is such a leap of faith for a
lot of people in the place where

1406
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:44,310
they work and they are employed
by and they need they obviously

1407
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,990
need their security and stuff.
I know for a fact that younger

1408
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,530
me in previous schools or places
I absolutely would not want to

1409
01:02:51,540 --> 01:02:53,410
rock the boat because I would
feel like it might damage my

1410
01:02:53,420 --> 01:02:56,690
career or the way they treat you
know the the way they treat you

1411
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,790
because it's not worth that.
That would be worse for your

1412
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,310
well-being.
It's like a well-being balance.

1413
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,330
It's like you want terrible way
well-being.

1414
01:03:02,340 --> 01:03:04,500
Or do you want absolutely awful
well-being?

1415
01:03:04,550 --> 01:03:07,060
Take your poison and it's
usually ohh.

1416
01:03:07,070 --> 01:03:08,580
Just crack on with the work,
then, shall I?

1417
01:03:08,670 --> 01:03:10,020
Yeah, exactly.
It is hard.

1418
01:03:10,030 --> 01:03:12,750
Easier said than done.
I will say that right now I sit

1419
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,980
here, give it all the talk, but
really it is hard to do.

1420
01:03:15,020 --> 01:03:18,150
So that's what we're here for,
Hayden, isn't it?

1421
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,100
To try and give that point of
view.

1422
01:03:20,450 --> 01:03:22,870
So that was our toxic story.
I thought it was a brilliant

1423
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,190
one.
And if you do have more toxic

1424
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,600
stories, please do, because this
is what you know, we are

1425
01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:29,020
passionate about this, don't we?
So we do love talking about this

1426
01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:32,200
kind of thing.
But Hayden, I do have a couple

1427
01:03:32,210 --> 01:03:34,320
of what I think are really funny
stories.

1428
01:03:34,330 --> 01:03:36,680
So should we.
Save this till last day.

1429
01:03:37,110 --> 01:03:45,690
Let's do it.
So hated on Instagram, a bunch

1430
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:47,320
of new followers as well.
I think a lot of people came

1431
01:03:47,330 --> 01:03:49,790
over from the MVP episode.
So if you are now watching this

1432
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,450
episode from there, the last
week or so, welcome.

1433
01:03:52,540 --> 01:03:56,150
We do a little segment storage
from the classroom and it

1434
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,230
started off with us a whole
episode Stories from the

1435
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,750
Classroom where our favourite
stories of teaching and now

1436
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,810
people write into us and and
hey, it's your favourite thing

1437
01:04:03,820 --> 01:04:04,700
isn't it?
This whole I love it.

1438
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:08,310
I honestly if every episode was
just this I'd I'd be in my

1439
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,920
element just because it's so
funny.

1440
01:04:10,110 --> 01:04:13,880
So we got some stories in and
this is from someone who is in

1441
01:04:13,890 --> 01:04:16,890
my school Hayden you know them
but again going to remain

1442
01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:18,890
anonymous.
But we we know this person quite

1443
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:21,870
well and this person doesn't
actually work in a school but

1444
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,720
this person said their mum
worked at a school and she

1445
01:04:24,730 --> 01:04:28,030
always used to tell this story
and it was like her go to story

1446
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,600
almost and it and it just it
just cracked me up.

1447
01:04:30,610 --> 01:04:33,380
I was like this is typical
primary school funny story so my

1448
01:04:33,390 --> 01:04:36,460
mum was a TA I've got your
permission to talk about her

1449
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:38,260
mum.
Her mum was Ruth, OK?

1450
01:04:38,530 --> 01:04:42,120
And I was thinking we might call
this section of roof rambles

1451
01:04:42,130 --> 01:04:43,510
something like that.
We're gonna come of it.

1452
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,870
But I feel, I feel like.
I feel like Ruby's gonna be a

1453
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,770
bit of a staple for some stories
in the future.

1454
01:04:49,780 --> 01:04:50,450
OK.
OK.

1455
01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:55,210
All right, OK, so here we go.
Mum was at A for a long time.

1456
01:04:55,220 --> 01:04:58,730
She probably got a lot of these
stories, not from me, but my mum

1457
01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:02,070
used to be at A and I always
remember she had a funny story

1458
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,250
when she was an RE lesson at
primary school.

1459
01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:07,330
She worked out and they were all
drawing pictures of Jesus.

1460
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:10,610
My mum was wandering around the
classroom helping the children

1461
01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:13,550
and she peers over the shoulder
of 1 girl who drawn a load of

1462
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,930
triangles on her page.
Mum asked why she'd drawn that

1463
01:05:16,940 --> 01:05:20,260
as her picture for Jesus and the
poor girl looked up devastated

1464
01:05:20,270 --> 01:05:23,550
and said, oh I thought you said
draw pictures of cheeses.

1465
01:05:25,460 --> 01:05:29,650
She spent ages Ohh sat there
drawing these detailed pictures

1466
01:05:29,660 --> 01:05:35,210
of of blocks of cheese.
Kids just don't question stuff.

1467
01:05:35,220 --> 01:05:36,790
They I was.
I was that kid.

1468
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,030
That's what I heard.
So crack on.

1469
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,590
Don't question the teacher.
Well, we just spent an hour

1470
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,930
talking about Jesus and now she
wants me to draw cheeses.

1471
01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:46,340
Alright, fine.
That's the kids do that, don't

1472
01:05:46,350 --> 01:05:47,970
they, though?
That's really common.

1473
01:05:47,980 --> 01:05:50,100
I can't think of any examples,
but that's definitely happened

1474
01:05:50,110 --> 01:05:53,330
where I'm like, how have you get
the hint from the lesson we're

1475
01:05:53,340 --> 01:05:54,830
doing?
What this task was supposed to

1476
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,590
be massively do lessons
subtraction and they start

1477
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,130
adding all the numbers.
Oh, we have just spent 20

1478
01:06:01,140 --> 01:06:02,530
minutes doing subtraction
together.

1479
01:06:02,620 --> 01:06:05,850
Could you maybe.
Yeah, maybe do that.

1480
01:06:05,860 --> 01:06:07,150
I.
Thought one.

1481
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,940
This happened to me last year
when I was doing an English

1482
01:06:09,950 --> 01:06:14,050
writing lesson where I gave the
children like a story opener.

1483
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,610
They had a few of them, had to
pick one and then like carry it

1484
01:06:17,620 --> 01:06:20,590
on of their own imagination got
to the end of this lesson.

1485
01:06:20,740 --> 01:06:24,080
They spent like 40 minutes
writing and it was independent.

1486
01:06:24,090 --> 01:06:26,930
So I was very much just I didn't
get involved because if you

1487
01:06:26,940 --> 01:06:28,980
start walking around I find.
Independent writing.

1488
01:06:28,990 --> 01:06:31,220
If you start walking around like
looking over their shoulders,

1489
01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:33,540
they ask you for help.
And when it's got to be

1490
01:06:33,550 --> 01:06:35,270
independent, you want to take
away that crutch.

1491
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,240
So I just sort of take myself
away from the side.

1492
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,230
And at the end of it, I went
over and this one child, all

1493
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:45,260
they had done for the whole
lesson was copy the entire story

1494
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:46,570
over.
It was like an A4 page.

1495
01:06:46,580 --> 01:06:47,870
It was a really long story
opener.

1496
01:06:48,190 --> 01:06:49,390
They just copied into their
book.

1497
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,420
And they thought the task was to
like, just pick one they like

1498
01:06:51,430 --> 01:06:54,150
and copy it in their book.
And I was like, what do you

1499
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,830
think we're doing?
Like what?

1500
01:06:55,900 --> 01:06:57,890
How has nothing clocked in your
brain that we're not doing that?

1501
01:06:57,900 --> 01:06:59,670
That's not what you're not
learning anything from that.

1502
01:06:59,740 --> 01:07:01,140
But they just thought that was
the task.

1503
01:07:02,730 --> 01:07:05,790
Ohh dear ohh my gosh.
Maybe they've been to a toxic

1504
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,340
school beforehand who fudges all
their writing data and just gets

1505
01:07:08,350 --> 01:07:09,890
kids to copy things down.
You know, Yeah.

1506
01:07:09,930 --> 01:07:12,680
Ohh training some people there.
Ohh sorry.

1507
01:07:13,030 --> 01:07:15,070
Future one.
That's a future episode, isn't

1508
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,200
it?
Anyway, another one from Bruce.

1509
01:07:17,250 --> 01:07:21,360
So Ruth gave us this one and
then she was told about it and

1510
01:07:21,370 --> 01:07:22,280
she was.
I've got some more.

1511
01:07:22,290 --> 01:07:24,060
So here's another one from Roof
that really cracked me up.

1512
01:07:24,070 --> 01:07:28,120
So second story, so got another
message.

1513
01:07:28,130 --> 01:07:29,940
My mum's been sending me more
stories now.

1514
01:07:29,950 --> 01:07:32,130
Told her about.
I've told you about the other

1515
01:07:32,140 --> 01:07:34,960
one.
This one really cracked me up.

1516
01:07:35,070 --> 01:07:37,500
This one really cracked me up,
she said.

1517
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:40,570
One girl came into her class
after arguing with her sister at

1518
01:07:40,580 --> 01:07:43,710
the weekend, and she wrote in
her weekend news, which is what

1519
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,230
they do every week.
They're coming and write about

1520
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,380
what happens.
She wrote in her weekend news

1521
01:07:47,390 --> 01:07:50,180
about how ugly her sister was
and how she's so glad she's not

1522
01:07:50,190 --> 01:07:52,540
anything like her.
Turns out they're identical

1523
01:07:52,550 --> 01:07:56,570
twins.
God's sake.

1524
01:07:58,740 --> 01:08:03,130
That's really funny because she
know she nobody writing down.

1525
01:08:03,140 --> 01:08:05,270
She's so ugly and I really hate
that.

1526
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,680
I'm glad I don't have her hair
because I don't look anything

1527
01:08:07,690 --> 01:08:11,070
like her.
That's just when, mate, I should

1528
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,360
swing.
You're basically writing this to

1529
01:08:12,370 --> 01:08:15,310
a mirror.
Ohh.

1530
01:08:15,770 --> 01:08:16,649
Absolutely.
Crack me up.

1531
01:08:16,660 --> 01:08:20,399
So I'm hoping, you know in the
future, Ruth Rambles might

1532
01:08:20,410 --> 01:08:21,670
repair Roof.
You're listening.

1533
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,790
Thank you so much.
I hope you don't mind me calling

1534
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,830
it rambles.
It's just a bit of alliteration

1535
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:26,830
first thing that came into my
mind.

1536
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,810
OK.
But thank you for those actually

1537
01:08:28,819 --> 01:08:31,029
shared stories.
Yeah.

1538
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:32,550
Everything's gonna have a
purpose, Aiden.

1539
01:08:32,620 --> 01:08:34,950
It's got a purpose.
But yeah, I love that.

1540
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,569
And the fact that it was from
someone whose story it wasn't

1541
01:08:38,580 --> 01:08:40,850
just shows how that is.
They're the kind of stories,

1542
01:08:40,859 --> 01:08:42,210
teachers.
If you ever meet a teacher,

1543
01:08:42,220 --> 01:08:44,040
there will always have a go to
stories.

1544
01:08:44,050 --> 01:08:47,330
That person, what's their go to?
Story and we need more Dylan.

1545
01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:50,130
Where can everyone write?
2 that's give the actual social

1546
01:08:50,140 --> 01:08:53,270
We've got about 16 different
social address the joke

1547
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:55,529
businesses So listen, we got new
viewers.

1548
01:08:55,540 --> 01:08:57,630
We've got new viewers.
I can read, repeat all my

1549
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,560
listeners.
You always forget the listeners.

1550
01:08:59,569 --> 01:09:01,899
You you just listen to some kind
of YouTube video, don't you?

1551
01:09:02,050 --> 01:09:04,029
Look at my new shoes.
I'm not gonna describe to

1552
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,260
anyone.
I view of my ears OK, I I'm

1553
01:09:06,270 --> 01:09:10,590
including everyone in the world
viewers OK, well anyway the best

1554
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,840
way to get hold of us is through
DMS on Instagram or just find us

1555
01:09:13,850 --> 01:09:16,859
on Instagram.
So teach sleep repeat podcast.

1556
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:19,779
That is our handle on Instagram
and therefore threats.

1557
01:09:19,790 --> 01:09:22,460
If anyone is still on threats.
Bit of a quick one there.

1558
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:25,120
We wanna spread through a bit.
Kind of died off very quickly.

1559
01:09:25,229 --> 01:09:29,700
Uh, we are on X, formerly known
as Twitter's TSR podcast.

1560
01:09:29,710 --> 01:09:32,979
God, that sounds.
And no, absolutely.

1561
01:09:32,990 --> 01:09:34,420
What an.
Idiot.

1562
01:09:34,430 --> 01:09:36,240
Anyway, can we just cut?
We'll just call it Twitter.

1563
01:09:36,250 --> 01:09:37,450
We're just.
I'm never going next.

1564
01:09:37,460 --> 01:09:41,310
OK, Twitter.
Twitter. e-mail us.

1565
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:42,390
Hello.
Hello.

1566
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:47,080
That's not that e-mail address.
Don't e-mail us that teach state

1567
01:09:47,090 --> 01:09:51,300
repeat pod@gmail.com.
But guys, honestly best way to

1568
01:09:51,310 --> 01:09:55,230
get in touch is on Instagram.
And yeah, if you have a funny

1569
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,550
story or a teachers told you a
story before that made you

1570
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,850
laugh, it's their go to one.
Let us know and we will pack

1571
01:10:00,860 --> 01:10:02,210
future episodes with stories
like.

1572
01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:06,830
This last week we did say that
we would make a like a Google

1573
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,110
Form or something for you to
submit.

1574
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,610
But obviously that being a tiny
little job, we haven't done it.

1575
01:10:10,660 --> 01:10:12,900
So we'll do it next time, we'll
do it another time, we'll get it

1576
01:10:12,910 --> 01:10:14,440
done.
So maybe next week.

1577
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:17,220
Yeah, it's it's underneath.
It's honest To Do List

1578
01:10:17,230 --> 01:10:20,800
underneath his glasses.
Sorry, he's got 3 glasses here

1579
01:10:20,810 --> 01:10:22,390
that I've just left for the last
two weeks.

1580
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,970
What about this one?
At some point, don't worry about

1581
01:10:24,980 --> 01:10:26,640
it.
Anyway, should we?

1582
01:10:26,710 --> 01:10:27,690
Should we stop?
Hated.

1583
01:10:27,700 --> 01:10:30,180
Because I think I'm starting to
get my line of sweat underneath

1584
01:10:30,190 --> 01:10:31,820
my man.
Yep, let's finish.

1585
01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:35,200
Take one.
Oh no, I wasn't recording any

1586
01:10:35,210 --> 01:10:38,390
audio.
That's really good one.

1587
01:10:39,710 --> 01:10:40,520
Do that.
Ohh.

1588
01:10:40,620 --> 01:10:42,690
Where do you come up with your
your jokes pal?

1589
01:10:43,140 --> 01:10:43,840
Bloody.
Money.

1590
01:10:43,890 --> 01:10:45,990
Ohh.
Anyway, let's, let's, let's wrap

1591
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,110
people.
Wanna go with the holidays,

1592
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,090
Hayden?
Yeah, maybe they don't.

1593
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:50,990
Maybe they wanna listen to us
because you know, like us, they

1594
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,400
get bored and this is helping
them.

1595
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:53,880
Maybe this is ruining their
holidays.

1596
01:10:53,890 --> 01:10:55,220
As well.
OK, bye everyone.

1597
01:10:55,230 --> 01:10:55,830
Put this on.