Ep 110: 10 Tips For Every Teacher To SMASH The Summer Term! Reports, Behaviour & Forward Planning

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Hello everyone, welcome back to
the episode of Tea Slick Repeat.

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My name is Dylan.
My name is Aiden.

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Why are we laughing so much,
Aiden?

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We just started this podcast and
as I was talking, I just threw

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up in my mouth a little bit.
That's really gross.

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I'm ready to stop.
I really wanted to keep.

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Oh my God, no way.
Maybe in like a year we'll

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rerelease, rerelease.
We'll release the bit of me

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throwing up in my mouth as I
started to.

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Record faster, getting ready to
trigger warning was organised

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and disgusting.
Oh man.

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Oh my goodness me.
That cracked me up so much.

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I was ready to do like a proper
intro in that.

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Yeah.
And I'm just not in a mental

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state to do that anymore because
that's the funniest thing I've

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ever.
So thank you for listening.

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We hope to see you next week.
Oh, no, no.

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We've got a lot to talk about
today.

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Oh, gosh.
Right.

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I'm gonna just go straight with
my week.

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I don't care about your week.
I'm just gonna go straight in.

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Go for it.
Because I just had a moment of a

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child that really made me laugh.
You know, children, there's this

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whole obsession children have
with the age of people, right?

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And either you're almost like a
teenager their age, if you're

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like a young teacher, or you're
74.

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Like in your own mouth, that
kind.

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Of age stop, stop some people
don't like listening to this

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kind of story so like there's
there's no middle age as as a as

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a as an adult, you're either
just a young person or you're

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yeah, you're extremely.
Old.

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So we were doing a text, We we
we started Narnia as our new

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class text, the line The Witch
in the wardrobe.

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And one of the words we were
looking at was old fashioned.

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And a few of them didn't quite
know what it meant.

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Others had worked it out other
than heard it before.

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And one child said, it's like
olden days, like something from

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the past.
And I was like, yeah, you were

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making links here.
That's awesome.

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Old fashioned something that,
you know, used to be the way of

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doing something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And one of the children then
said to me my mum was born in

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the olden days.
Oh God, here we go.

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Yeah, when you're a kid, when
you're a kid, anything before

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you when you were born was
basically World War 2.

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There's no, there's no between.
It just really made me laugh

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what she did after, because I
said thinking.

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OK, so how old is your mum?
Yeah, that's what I asked her

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because I thought, I bet your
mum's like, 37, you know, like,

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you know, not even far from us,
literally, like, around our age.

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And so I said, OK, how old are
you?

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But I'm thinking I'll continue.
But like, well, no, actually

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really older days.
I know it's funny and it's a

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laugh.
Her reply was just completely

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ruined this facade her Mama
tried to build up to other

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people.
She just said, well, I'm

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supposed to say 29.
You're supposed you're not

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supposed to say.
I'm supposed to say.

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That bit ruins it.
That bit.

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Now we all know she's not 29.
You've ruined it.

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And that she's told you.
To say, yeah, because she's

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actually 30 and it's 50.
No one wants to say 30.

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OK.
Yeah.

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I say kids just have no concept
of age, do they?

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No, because sometimes, sometimes
they joked and they're like, how

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old am I?
They're like, you're 100.

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And I'm like, OK, I know you're
being silly, but sometimes

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there's those genuine moments
where you said I've said my age

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before and.
And I did, funny enough, the

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other day I literally said my
age.

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And one of them went, oh, God, I
didn't realise you were younger

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than my dad.
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And I was your dad, 40.
I was like, what do you mean you

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falls?
You falls over 40?

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Like come on, you've had.
Eight years, you're just an

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adult.
I think in my head, kids have

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just three stages of adulthood
and what the first stage of

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adulthood is when you're clearly
just like a teenager, right?

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You're very young.
You're basically a kid.

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The next stage is just my
parents and my teachers, and

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that's just it.
And then the last stage is old

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person.
Yeah, that's it.

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So that that middle one is huge.
Yeah.

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That middle one genuinely goes
from like 25 up to like 60.

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Yeah.
You're just.

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You're just in.
That brand, it's not until you

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live in it that you start to
realise, oh, that you do look

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kind of different at different
phases.

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Oh yeah.
Right at the moment I'm so

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finally starting to like, look
at like 20 year olds, yeah.

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And be like, oh, you look like
babies to me.

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Yeah.
Whereas mid 20s, I looked at

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them, I was like, I think I
look, I look like that, right?

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I think I look like that.
We look the same.

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But now I look at them, I'm
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I'm like they're a child.
I'm like, do I teach you in year

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6 or not?
Because I can't really tell.

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You're doing what the kids do of
adults or children.

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You're just young people.
It makes so much sense because

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when I was younger, I'd always
like when I was like 17.

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So like really old people would
honestly have no concept if I

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was like between, they thought I
was somewhere between 12 and 20.

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They would just have no idea
like what actual age I was

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because I guess they've just
it's just so far removed.

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Well I was at my friend 70th the
other day and not my friend.

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You have a friend that's.
My friends dad 70th.

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We play golf, film and stuff.
Sometimes he's my friend.

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As well, I was being friends.
Was my friend 70th?

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Yeah.
Was that my friend Dad, who's

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also my friend?
He's 70th.

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And yeah, so, so we, we, we went
out for a night out.

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We had this like function room
hired and it was in the middle

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of the town and we, we left at
the end and we're walking past

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the clubs and we're, we're
seeing people go into clubs.

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And I honestly was like, that's
a child.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're
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That's a group of lads there who
are 15 and they're obviously

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like 1920.
They're just going out.

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And I was like God when I was
them.

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I, I didn't, I think other
people would be looking at me

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with this kind of like view of
that's a child.

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But clearly I was well.
Fortunately no one did with you

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because you looked about 28 from
about 14.

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So you are an anomaly to this.
I however did look about 12:18

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and but I thought to myself, oh,
I mean I don't know clearly

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whose question.
What do you want to see my ID

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for?
Clearly I'm 18.

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No, you're like, no child.
You like it.

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We both went through big, big
changes in how we looked, didn't

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we?
Like almost overnight I grew a

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beard and I was like, you look
older.

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Immediately you lost Yeah.
You look older yeah.

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Jumped out that's.
Exactly it.

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Yeah.
I'm not sure which ones better

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think about that move.
Yeah.

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Anyway, is he?
Sorry.

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Very quickly as I walked in
today and you were playing a new

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game and you'd create an avatar.
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Maybe you think beard's better
because look at your avatar.

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It was basically, it looked like
what you were like the ultimate

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version of me.
It was a bald man.

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So, OK, that's Hayden trying to
be himself with the most

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majestic beard you've ever seen.
Little bit.

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Little bit jealousy, maybe.
I don't know.

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And like the most ripped person
ever walking around with their

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top off like I've built her
house.

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So obviously that bit's true.
Yeah.

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So that bit, obviously the
ripped bit is true.

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Obviously completely me, but the
beard.

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But yeah, I would like to grow a
beard.

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I wish I could grow a beard, in
all honesty.

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Oh God, I wish I could.
Right, I I've from from what you

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told me earlier, you're really
annoyed at something.

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Yeah, well, my whole week's
recap here was just going to be

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something that happened or
something I saw on Facebook.

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I got hooked in because I'm a
keyboard warrior.

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You know what I'm like, but I
try to not be as bad these days.

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Anyway, someone put a post try
fairly a fairly new teacher

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clearly in one of these groups
put something along the lines of

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I'm taking on math lead.
Hey, what's up at my school,

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which is really cool, really
exciting.

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I remember doing that.
I loved the first year I was to

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come out lead and just the first
year, not the first year after

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that, I was like, I did enjoy it
and they said so I just want to

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clarify something because I'm
not really too sure if I'm being

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wrong or something, but I'm
going to get paid a TLR which

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sounds really cool, but they've
put me on ATLR 3 and I'm reading

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right here on this extremely
clear document.

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I've added that from the
government, yeah, from the.

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Government that TLR freezer for
like temporary positions and

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then the lowest paid one.
Just checking.

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Am I supposed to be on ATLR 2
for this permanent mass lead

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role that's always existed in
this school for decades?

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Yes you are and never not
existed.

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Correct.
And put it put the poster.

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And that's what I thought I was
like we talked about this in the

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pod.
I was like getting ready to get

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my hands warmed up to type.
Absolutely right.

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Yeah, you should be challenging
that.

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But I actually ended up typing
something along the lines of,

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yeah, it is wrong.
It's also one of those weird

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ones where unanimously across
schools, for some reason, we've

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all accepted the TLR three's are
given and it's actually

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annoyingly normal to be given a
TLR 3 from Ashley.

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Then I read some of the other
comments and I was surprised to

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see that quite a few people were
saying, Oh yeah, I challenged

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this at my school and now we get
paid TLR 2's.

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That's absolutely right.
Yeah, more than one person put

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that, which like really made me,
I think I might have even

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deleted my comment because I
felt embarrassed the fact that

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I'd said no, it's totally normal
for schools to do TLR 3.

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The next two comments of people
saying no I've got a TLR 2 now

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for mass for being a mass lead.
Doesn't that go to show that

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bringing something up and
actually challenging it

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sometimes does work because
they're just being awkward?

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They were both sort of basically
saying, yeah, yeah, I brought

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this up and This is why I'm on
TLR too.

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Very next comment.
No, I don't get paid for this.

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I don't get paid for this.
You.

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Should know if you get anything.
Yeah, next comment was that

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basically saying literally like
patronising, like why are you

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why are you questioning whether
you're getting when you're

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getting money?
Like why are you questioning it?

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You're getting paid.
Shut up basically, honestly, and

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just that it basically went from
the whole range of everyone

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being like I get paid absolutely
nothing.

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That's fine Yeah to you
shouldn't moment I get I get

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paid nothing but we should do to
just be happy you getting paid

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something to yeah that's wrong.
I get paid a TLR 2 at my school

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and I just Oh my God, I just I
let us save it for the pod

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because I wanted to rant with
you and be like.

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I don't understand how we can
have a public service job.

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It's the same job and there's
10s of thousands of us across

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the country doing the same job,
the same pay scales.

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Unless you're in an Academy and
they're just renting you because

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the CEO needs to take 300 grand
a year.

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You know, that's a different
conversation.

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We're all doing the same job.
How can it be?

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How can it be that someone 500
metres down the road and a

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different school is doing the
exact same role as me, which

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we've all established across the
government is like, yes, we need

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mass leads in all schools, but
they don't get paid.

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I get paid a bit and they get
paid more.

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It doesn't make any sense to me.
It doesn't.

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It doesn't make sense because
it's the same role.

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Yeah, it's insane.
Absolutely agree.

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And the Academy thing does just
muddy the waters even further

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because there'll be other people
underneath saying, Oh yeah, that

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that is true.
But I guess my Academy doesn't

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have to follow it because they
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because they're just basically a
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as as a school that can be
funded by the government and can

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do what they want with all the
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It's insane.
So we already have that

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dichotomy of local authority
schools following, having to

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follow this, that that don't
local authority schools are

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having to follow this guidance
that do and Academy trusts who

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can just do whatever they want
anyway.

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So that's where I'm, yeah, I'm
really behind that.

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There's a current push from the
government that they're going to

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make every single school have to
follow all of these STPCDS and

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documents and stuff.
And a lot of academies are

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pushing back saying, Oh no, no,
no, no, that's bad because I

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think I would like quite like
having control because it can

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help my staff.
No, no, 90% of the 90% of the

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ways that the academies apply
their freedom to do what they

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want with money is to take money
away from teachers.

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Of course it's lower.
What else would you argue?

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Yeah.
Have you ever seen an Academy or

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a really good maternity scheme
which matches that in the

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private sector though?
Yeah, of course you're not going

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to put more money into, are
they?

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They're going to lower your pay
salary, lower your pay grades.

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We worked in a school that was
an Academy that literally did

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this systematically across the
board in a way that was so

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underhanded.
It was, it was almost, it was,

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it was crazy.
And I only found out through you

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only find out through digging.
So essentially, if you think

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about the pay scales on the main
pay scale goes up to M6, so M1

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up to M66 jumps.
And if you're in a local

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authority school, you'll just go
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Quite straightforward.
You can apply to go through UPS

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whenever you want.
You might get accepted, you

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might get not whatever.
But what this Academy chain did,

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and we worked in this school,
was they created their own pay

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scale, which is completely
allowed.

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Not, not, not illegal.
Nothing, they nothing they did

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was illegal at all.
I just thought it was horrible.

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So you'd make a new scale and
you'd go M1M2, but you'd put

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your own little jump in between.
So now instead of there being

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six jumps up, there was actually
I think 11.

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There was that 11, yeah.
Because there was one between

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each jump, so five extra were
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And again, they were like, okay,
so every year you go up to jumps

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on the scale, which is basically
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Anyone who's already worked out
shouting me saying yeah, okay,

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right, So the baseline was if
you meet your performance

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appraisal, because all linked to
performance, you jump up too.

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Which is just what everyone
should get anyway.

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Yeah, but they reserved the
right to jump you up 1 And

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here's where they systematically
did this to new teachers.

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We are NQTS, we join and we were
told unequivocally every single

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NQT, no matter their
performance, so no longer

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performance related, no matter
what they did, they go up one

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point in the scale.
So every single NQT in this

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school, which was an Academy
trust, which and this was

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completely allowed, went up
instead of one scale up to the

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next, what was traditionally M2
went up to the new next jump,

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which was halfway.
So that year you were earning 1

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to 1 1/2 grand less than you
should have done.

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But here's the kicker, you might
think, oh, that's annoying for a

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year you've lost a grand.
But then the next year you can

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go up two points and it's back
to normal.

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No, because then you're on 1.5.
So you start on.

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You're on.
SO let's say you start on one.

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Yeah.
Year 2, you're on 1.5.

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Yeah.
Year 30.

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I can go up two now, can't I?
Yeah.

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You're going to 2.5.
You should be on three.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every single year you're half a

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scale, half a pay scale less
than what you should be on.

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So every single year of your
career, of every teacher in the

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school, no matter where they
are, they're saving 1000 to 2000

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lbs.
Yeah.

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And it was just an example of
how.

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Yeah.
Academy trust, we've got the

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freedom to do what we want with
the money.

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We can do what we want.
TLR, It's all down to us.

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Isn't that great?
Because we can really give our

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staff the money they deserve.
95% at the time it's going the

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other way, it's not happening,
which is why all schools should

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have to follow these guidance.
Yeah, that was actually the

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first time that I'm just
thinking, reminiscing back to

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that time because we both worked
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That was the first time I found
a little bit of confidence and I

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and I actually did challenge it.
It was probably the only time in

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that I'd finished my newly
qualified teaching year and I

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found out this whole pay thing
and I was like, I'm pretty sure

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that's wrong.
I was quite naive at the time,

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so I didn't really know.
I was like, pretty sure that's

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not supposed to happen.
And I did challenge it to the

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head teacher and just got
literally, I remember, I

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actually can imagine being in
there and heard you saying to

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me, no, that's just what we do
here.

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Just shutting me down.
And obviously I didn't have any

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more.
That was my confidence done.

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I spent it and I was like.
OK.

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Going in was your confidence.
Yeah, exactly.

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I walked out thinking just a
bit, been a bit annoyed, but

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it's sowed that seed.
And what those leaders need to

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understand is it's sowed the
seed for me to have resentment.

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I left that school a couple of
years later, and I resented

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every single thing about it.
And you know what?

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Those little things they did
build up and they grew inside

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me, and it annoyed me.
So these leaders think they can

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get away of it and then squash
it and it's done and they'll

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forget about it.
No, people don't forget about

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these things.
Well, we're ten years in now.

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And talking about it, I.
Still think about it because I

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think it's just, I just think
it's an instinctively horrible

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thing to do because someone
would have to sit there and make

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that decision.
Yeah, that was like an active

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decision where we're like,
right, we'll make these pay

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grades, we'll invent these rules
where we can save 10s of

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thousands of pounds out of the
pockets of of our teachers,

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every single one of them over
their career at the school.

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That decision was made actively.
And that was maybe pay made

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because, Oh, well, we've got to
we've we've just saved in our

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school.
We've just saved, let's just say

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it to grand every teacher.
We've just saved 30 grand.

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Yeah.
Oh my goodness.

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That's my pay rise next year.
Yeah.

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Honestly.
Yeah.

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You've made-up this role for one
of your mates in the top, which

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is funded by screwing over your
staff.

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Yeah.
Never mind the the way teaching

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assistants were treated.
You know, it's even worse with

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them.
Absolutely.

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So when you look at it and
you're thinking, oh, aren't

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these cost cutting measures good
that schools can have this to

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survive?
Not really when they're spending

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it on middle management that do
nothing and go around and make

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teachers feel even worse.
Yeah, And the TLR thing coming

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full circle back to what you
just said, it's a, it's a

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conversation which I think is
really powerful because in a

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local authority school you've
got it written on paper where

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really it's quite hard to argue
that.

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And some schools still will.
Yeah, but it's almost irrelevant

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then when you go to an Academy,
'cause I just like.

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Well, yeah, let's make up your.
Yeah, we don't.

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We don't even pay TLR here at
all.

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What you talking about?
What's the TLR?

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Honestly.
Okay, they don't exist.

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Yeah, everyone just leads
everything.

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Please.
Oh.

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Yeah, you just got to complain.
You just got to complain to

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these schools.
You should.

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I shouldn't be here.
You should, you should complain

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though, in general, like even if
you're in an Academy, I would go

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to them and say this isn't
really enough.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then don't do it.

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Say no.
Yeah, OK.

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I don't want to do it then it's
not worth it.

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That's.
The problem because people often

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go, oh, OK, and then do it
anyway.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
let's let's make a fork in the

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road.
Do it and get paid for it or

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don't do it.
So imagine saying to them, what

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would you do if I refuse this
role?

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Yeah it's not gonna be will fire
you yeah this is good luck we're

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gonna say to that you might
wanna say that because the

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hypotheticals are great in real
life is okay you got a mortgage

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my relationship with this
teacher, this head teacher is

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maybe important to me as well so
maybe I will or even.

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If you don't like them, you want
to stay in your job.

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Yes.
I mean, you don't wanna cause

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too much, too many problems.
There's lots of things to

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consider.
But we should definitely have

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that line of thought in our head
of I could challenge this

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though.
Absolutely.

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I could complain about this.
Absolutely.

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You know, Yeah.
Yeah, one last thing before we

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played Jingle and Crack on, we
did receive a bit of a

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complaint.
We got a complaint.

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I know, right?
We're not.

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CEOs of a of a multi kind of
trust are we Dylan.

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We're actually fleecing off the
customers.

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We've changed their pay scale.
No, we're from not mentioned in

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a while.
Mr Need Financial Planning.

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My good, good friend Mr Need
Financial Planning got in touch,

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but I said he's just catching
up.

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There was a couple of podcasts
behind and he mentioned a couple

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of podcasts ago we had to put a
beep in because we got a bit

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overexcited and we we said me
and I said, so that might have

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needed to beeped and he just got
in.

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I was to say, you know,
brilliant.

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Whatever, that's fine.
I'm glad you beeped it.

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But God, I was, I was listening
to it in the car and it was

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really loud.
And so I think you said you're

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listening to the cartoon.
It was quite loud.

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It was.
The beats were quite loud.

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So just one thing to say, to be
honest with you, Mr Neat,

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financial planning, I don't
really give a so we're going to

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get onto our top tips for the
summer turn later.

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But there's one thing I wanted
to talk about first, and it was

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from a TikTok video that I
posted.

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So anyone who's following us on
TikTok at Teach seek repeat

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podcast or on Instagram or see
reels that we put out

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constantly, often they're from
recent episodes, obviously to

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try and show what we're talking
about.

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But every now and then I'll post
something from an old episode.

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And I noticed again on TikTok
again and Instagram, I still see

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quite a lot of teachers,
educators, people working in a

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school posting content online,
including us.

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We post content online all the
time, all the time.

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But I have an issue when I see
content post online that's

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clearly been recorded during a
lesson.

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Right.
OK.

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Like with kids in it or kids
voices or.

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Whatever, Yeah, whatever it
might be, I think there are

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still levels inside of that with
with actual kids in the video is

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insane.
And I just can't think of a

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reason ever, ever to do that.
But then there's also the idea

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of OK, kids voices in the
background, but the video's on

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the teacher.
But we'll get into why I still

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think that's all very strange.
I did a reel about this and it

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got a lot of views, a lot of
traction, a lot of likes and a

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lot of agreement.
Like 95 to 98% of people are

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saying yes this is this is
insane.

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We should never be filming
content for our own personal use

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on our own personal TikTok
accounts during lesson times

452
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,360
whilst children are in school.
That seemed like the absolute

453
00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,440
that that should be it.
What was the because I'm just

454
00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,000
curious because I haven't read
the comments.

455
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,120
So what were the what was the
main reason for that?

456
00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:06,760
Is it the obvious one?
Is it simply because kids

457
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,480
safeguarding?
Safeguarding is that it Simple

458
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,640
as that.
There There were a few that

459
00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,000
cropped up a lot.
OK, so #1 would be working in a

460
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,120
school, if you're a teacher, you
will know how important it is

461
00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:18,600
for a lot of children to not
remotely be able to be

462
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,200
identified for their own safety.
Yeah.

463
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,240
The ultimate safeguarding
version of children in care,

464
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,480
perhaps where where adults
cannot know where these children

465
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,680
are and if there's any way of
working out whatsoever, they'll

466
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,720
find a way of working.
Do you think even like voices?

467
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,760
This is what that that can still
fall into it because at the end

468
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,360
of the day, if you you know your
child's voice and you hear it,

469
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,360
OK, And you then figure out, OK,
that's this person who's a

470
00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,320
social media influencer online
who I know of.

471
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,680
I can very easily work out where
they, where they work.

472
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,160
I know what school that kids at
now.

473
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,600
I know what area they're in.
That can be a huge safeguarding,

474
00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,280
OK.
That can be a huge safeguarding

475
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:50,520
issue.
Yeah.

476
00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:54,600
And the other one was, you know,
teachers having their phones out

477
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,600
in lesson time.
Sure.

478
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,600
Teachers having their personal
phone out and setting it up like

479
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,480
on a tripod with like a light
around a ring light and then

480
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,560
setting all that up and and then
doing a bit of the lesson.

481
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,400
Yeah.
OK.

482
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,520
The point was there was never,
ever should your personal phone

483
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,920
be out in the classroom, never
mind recording and taking photos

484
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,200
and stuff like that on your
personal phone.

485
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,360
So a lot of this was predicated
on.

486
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,400
And, and to be fair, the real
was too on this idea of consent

487
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,480
and this idea of if it's OK or
not.

488
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,760
Well, some, some schools just
think about the phone thing.

489
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,880
Some like policies are really
different across schools.

490
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,680
Some schools genuinely have like
the strictest phone policies.

491
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,320
I've seen some people online
saying like we have to put our

492
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,120
phones in like a locker on the
way in genuinely as adults and

493
00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:36,960
other schools.
I, I know of these schools

494
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,800
because I've heard of, I know
people that work in them where

495
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,800
they're like when they go on
school trips and stuff, they're

496
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,000
allowed to take pictures on
their phone.

497
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,440
They just have to prove they've
deleted at the end.

498
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,600
They can upload them like they
can take pictures for the, for

499
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,840
the school website on their, on
their personal phones.

500
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,160
And then they've just got to
delete them at the end and they

501
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,920
can upload them, which I think
is, I think that's pushing the

502
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,400
line too much personally.
But like, do you, do you think

503
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,760
then that these things are
objectively wrong?

504
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,160
Or is it just your opinion that
they're wrong?

505
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,280
Because some schools probably do
have a policy where that person

506
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,840
would actually be allowed to get
out of their phone.

507
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,520
Well, this was the huge thing.
This was all about consent.

508
00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:08,480
This was the huge part of the
video.

509
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,040
The video was very clearly
talking about if we're not

510
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,520
finding any consent, This is
insane.

511
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,600
So I think nearly everyone,
every single person can agree

512
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,720
that without any form of consent
doing this is is wrong.

513
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,080
It's not an opinion.
It is wrong.

514
00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:25,160
OK, You can't, you cannot give
consent for the children to be

515
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,920
posted on social media at all.
Right?

516
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,120
So now, now we're going into the
murky area of with consent or

517
00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:32,160
not, because again, a lot of
people are saying these people

518
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,560
obviously have consent from the
parents.

519
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,760
And I was like, yeah, some do,
but some don't.

520
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,680
And that's my issue.
Some just think it's OK because

521
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,480
they see it online.
So my point here is even when

522
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,080
there is consent from parents
for children to say I consent to

523
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,840
this teacher filming during
lesson time, I consent to this

524
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,720
teacher using their own personal
phone during lesson time, I

525
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,960
consent to it being uploaded to
their own personal TikTok.

526
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:55,880
Let's say you get all of that.
All of that consent.

527
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,240
Let's say all of that consent is
there from parents and then the

528
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,040
school even like do your classes
based on the fact that well that

529
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,920
we know that in this guy's
class, this person's an

530
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,960
influencer that does a lot of
stuff online.

531
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,920
It's beneficial to us and him.
We let him do.

532
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,040
It all the.
Official channel.

533
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,400
It's all fine.
It's OK even in in that case, I

534
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,560
personally, and I'm not saying
that this like should be the law

535
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,880
because I don't know if this
consent.

536
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,080
I'm sure that's fine.
I still don't think that should

537
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,400
happen.
Why I think that any it's just

538
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,920
it's just a safeguarding issue.
Why do we have cards that are

539
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,400
security cards to get into
school?

540
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,040
Why do we have that?
Well, just so no one else can

541
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,280
get in, that shouldn't be
allowed.

542
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,440
OK.
Are we saying, are we saying

543
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,000
that everyone who who could
possibly come into a school is

544
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,440
going to do something illegal?
No, it's right exactly so.

545
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,880
This person might get lots of
consent, and there's a 99%

546
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,680
chance that a teacher will
absolutely do nothing with those

547
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,400
whatsoever.
But there's a chance that

548
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,080
someone will have access to that
phone, even if it's not that

549
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,400
teacher, and have access to
those files.

550
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,560
Yeah, the data could be like you
think about GDPR, actually not

551
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,680
we talked about that, but
obviously GDPR came in a few

552
00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,800
years ago and was like really
hot.

553
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,000
And that's all about consent
though as well.

554
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,440
Yeah.
And but data protection, yeah.

555
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,360
You think about like you just
saying about the phone there.

556
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,320
Yeah.
How, how often, how common is it

557
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,800
that your personal phone will be
in the hands of someone else?

558
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,880
Yeah, probably not very often
with.

559
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,640
You because you hate.
You hate to touch your phone,

560
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,360
but most people like they might
give us their partner or some of

561
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,560
their family or friend might
just or can I have Rory phone

562
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,000
make a phone call?
Lauren's always got my phone

563
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,440
taking pictures of Rory.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

564
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,960
constantly.
So there is a, there is a data

565
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,320
protection thing there.
I've not thought about them

566
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,400
until right now, where just
like, yeah, even if you've got

567
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,680
all the consent, someone else
could still get the like, let's

568
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,640
say you've got consent, but you
have to blow out the faces.

569
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,240
Yeah.
OK.

570
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,520
Well, the raw video won't have
blurred out faces, will it?

571
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've got to edit that in.

572
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,480
And if your phone's got that
footage on it and maybe it gets

573
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,240
uploaded to the cloud or
whatever, there is just a data

574
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,600
protection thing there.
I think that's probably, yeah,

575
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,960
completely a big enough risk.
Completely.

576
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,840
But even I just think with all
the consent and stuff, you're

577
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,280
always the lead of a school and
safeguarding, as we've always

578
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,760
said, is a top priority.
I just think I would err away

579
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,560
from that.
Yeah, Even giving that as an

580
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,920
option.
Yeah, I would just err away.

581
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,200
What's the benefit of the
school?

582
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,960
Well, the benefit.
Of the school can be, you know,

583
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,840
loads of stuff you can get lots
of if the if the school lots of

584
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,160
schools have their own tik Toks
yeah, and the school can get a

585
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,520
bit of, you know, local
notoriety as oh, that's a cool,

586
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,960
fun score and you can get bums
on seats because there's so much

587
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,880
competition at the minute to get
bums in seats and stuff like

588
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,360
that.
But the, but the overall point

589
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:13,800
I'm trying to make here is that
I still, I just don't think it's

590
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,520
something we should do.
I, I, I personally think it's, a

591
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,240
lot of the time it is just for
clout.

592
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,760
It's just for clout and for
building a personal brand and

593
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,000
for looking like a cool teacher
and being and getting accolades

594
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,680
online.
So my, my two points to this is

595
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,080
#1 nearly everything I've seen
that's involved in a classroom

596
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,960
could just be a video after when
the kids have gone home.

597
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,240
So for example, I've seen stuff
before where someone's set up

598
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,280
their camera, put them on
themselves and they've gone,

599
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,160
they're doing a callback or
something.

600
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,520
So the teacher will go tikka
masala and the kids will go sue.

601
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,880
And like, it's just like, it's
like.

602
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,680
I hope not.
But but, but, but my point here

603
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,520
is that that's just for clout
because if you actually only

604
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,320
cared about the pedagogy, which
what people come back to, and

605
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,920
I'm just sharing cool ideas for
the kids.

606
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,600
Cool, set up a video after the
kids have gone and explain that.

607
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,280
Yeah, but that's not what you
want to do.

608
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,600
Because what you want to do is
have the clout of the kids in

609
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,120
the background saying it and
seeing an action because you

610
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,000
want that to be on your video
because, you know, or get more

611
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,920
engagement, you know, or get
more clicks, you know, or get

612
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,320
more likes.
So it's it's often disingenuous

613
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,920
when someone says, oh, I'm just
trying to share my pedagogical

614
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,520
knowledge.
Loads of accounts share

615
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,160
pedagogical knowledge without
doing that.

616
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,240
I've seen there's an account
called Mr Minchin who props up

617
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,840
on my Instagram.
He has unbelievable ideas.

618
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,960
But I heard you be sat in an
empty classroom saying hey guys

619
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,000
I tried this out today.
Yeah, this was the.

620
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,080
Thing I did, and this was really
good for coordinates, and then

621
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,440
the next thing is I'm setting up
this outdoor adventure thing for

622
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,640
my children to have some free
play.

623
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,280
That's how you can share
pedagogical knowledge without

624
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,840
sitting.
Up in it exactly.

625
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,120
He's not doing it like he yeah,
we're, we're, we're aware enough

626
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,520
to be able to just, like, apply
it to the classroom without

627
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,480
seeing the kids doing it.
Right.

628
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,640
So my point being when you've
chosen to have the kids in it,

629
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,280
there's another thing in play.
And I don't think you can just

630
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,880
say, oh, it's pedagogical.
It's not because again, half the

631
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,760
time this is my other point is a
lot of the time with these

632
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,480
people.
And again, I didn't like how it

633
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,560
became name calling in the
comments because I genuinely, I

634
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,680
was not thinking of an
individual whatsoever, but a lot

635
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,080
of names came up in the comments
and I just ignored them because

636
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,640
I'm not out to get anyone
individually.

637
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,280
I'm talking about a point of
view I have.

638
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,320
The other thing is that, yeah,
OK, what we just mentioned about

639
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,480
the kids being there and it's
for clout and stuff, A lot of

640
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,880
the time what they're actually
sharing isn't even that ground

641
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,920
breaking the amazing.
So, you know, doing a callback.

642
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,320
Yeah, we've all heard.
Callbacks, well, we know, OK And

643
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,440
again, if you're sharing it with
parents just OK with kids and

644
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,560
stuff or you're teaching them
how to do it, you don't need to

645
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,440
film that.
Yeah, because callbacks are an

646
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,120
established part of our whole
teaching Like do you name a

647
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,400
teacher who doesn't know what a
callback is?

648
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:38,880
Yeah.
Yeah.

649
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,480
And even if you are there to
learn from this influencer, like

650
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,840
I said, do it after school then.
But you know you're doing that.

651
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,640
It's not it's not
groundbreaking.

652
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,280
It's.
And, and you'll get people again

653
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,960
like, oh, aren't you the best
teacher in the world because

654
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,280
you've you've engaged them
through doing a funny callback.

655
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,720
Yeah, I, I.
People do that in their sleep.

656
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,840
Yeah.
I've seen amazing teachers all

657
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,440
the time being an amazing
teacher.

658
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,640
Do you know what usually means
is you're not thinking about

659
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,840
your phone during the lesson,
You're just doing some amazing

660
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,520
teaching.
You're not thinking, God, how

661
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,120
can I?
I need to show the world that I

662
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:08,480
do callbacks because isn't that
great?

663
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,240
OK.
Do it after then I think you

664
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,200
made a really, really good
point.

665
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,720
I think that the clearest, like
distinguished point that you've

666
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,040
given here is there should be a
flow diagram in your head.

667
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:19,280
I want to make this content.
OK.

668
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,680
Do you know what some people do
like making content?

669
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,840
We like making content probably
more than other people make like

670
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,240
making content.
We make so much content.

671
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,200
OK, can I make this content
after school?

672
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,080
If the answer is yes and it
doesn't detriment the content

673
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,280
you're thinking of making there
and you don't choose to do that,

674
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,280
then you've made the wrong
choice.

675
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,400
I, I, I think I quite like that
line of thinking because I've

676
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,640
always been a bit wishy washy in
this before.

677
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,000
I felt like you've always had a
really, really, really clear

678
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,480
point of view.
And I've always been a little

679
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,880
maybe I just haven't thought
about it enough.

680
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,640
Like you're encouraging me to
think about it more now

681
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,480
actually.
And I've always been a bit like

682
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,680
my previous opinion was if
there's consent, OK, whatever,

683
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,000
get on with that.
And then I've left my thought

684
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000
train there.
But I do agree, I think I think

685
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,160
there's I think if you're doing
it for clout and it and it

686
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,800
doesn't, it doesn't show
anything great.

687
00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,840
Like you could just do it after
school.

688
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,680
The new chapter.
You do that for sure, for sure.

689
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,520
OK, can I challenge you another
type comment.

690
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,320
Because there's something that's
I don't know who these people

691
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,280
are because I don't really
watch.

692
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,120
This we actually, but just for
context quickly, you and I, we

693
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,680
don't really spend much time on
social media.

694
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,240
I don't, which is funny because
we have podcasts and we post on

695
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,680
social media a lot.
We don't really consume much.

696
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,040
So yeah, I'm just saying I know
you.

697
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,800
Don't but around COVID time and
it's this might not even happen

698
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,880
anymore.
I might be being really like old

699
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,760
fashioned here with my content,
but around COVID time, I

700
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,120
remember there was a bit of a
rise in, in content being filmed

701
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:29,800
at school.
Yeah, like maybe on those days,

702
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,120
but there's only a few kids in
or whatever.

703
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:32,640
Maybe it was a bit more relaxed,
I don't know.

704
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,880
But I remember there was,
there's been quite a few

705
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,760
creators that have made like
it's, I think it's all secondary

706
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,080
school based, I think.
But like like dancing in the

707
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,840
classroom, people have done
dances and.

708
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,600
Stuff.
Well, we've, yeah, we.

709
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,120
Know with kids like with kids
like dances, like kind of like

710
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,080
the callback thing, but like
they've, they've done something

711
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,920
and the kids are in it like they
might be blurred or they might

712
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920
not be like fully in shot or
something like that.

713
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,200
I just remember seeing loads of
videos of like teachers with

714
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520
kids in the video.
I remember and I remember

715
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,320
thinking at the time, well,
that's quite sweet.

716
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,160
You know, they've obviously got,
they've obviously got consent.

717
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,960
And my first thought was,
they've done that because it's

718
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,040
engaged that child, maybe, maybe
that child, I don't know, maybe

719
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,800
it's like a special need for
that child or a behavioural need

720
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,640
or something.
And for them, it was like, this

721
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,880
is epic for them.
They were like, I can't wait to

722
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,280
see my video on TikTok.
I can't wait to see my video on

723
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,640
Instagram.
And I've got consent from my

724
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,160
mum.
I'm going to.

725
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,520
I was going to do it anyway at
home, but now I'm doing it in a

726
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,000
safe space with my teacher at
lunchtime.

727
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,640
What's your views on that?
I think what you summed up there

728
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,160
is probably the most compelling
like retort you could have to

729
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,640
what I'm saying, which is based
in the grounds of discontent,

730
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,960
consent from the parents.
It's based in the grounds that

731
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,720
the children actively want to do
it.

732
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,120
I just think that you should not
do it like it's it's so.

733
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,080
That doesn't push you back
enough.

734
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,240
No, you'd be like, OK, that's
OK.

735
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,760
So it pushed me back enough in
terms of if a child has consent

736
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,920
from their parent to go on to
TikTok below the age they should

737
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,400
be on TikTok.
What?

738
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,840
Who are we to go into someone's
private home and say, no, you

739
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,520
shouldn't be doing that right?
But we are a school, we do have

740
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,600
a duty of care and even with
consent and stuff, great.

741
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,520
If a parent came in and
consented to their children

742
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,680
drinking bleach at lunchtime, we
wouldn't just go, well, the

743
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,440
parents consented, so we're
going to have the bleach out.

744
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,280
Of course, it's so true.
Of course we wouldn't.

745
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,200
It's so true.
The blanket fact of that a

746
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,320
parent has consented to
something doesn't mean that a

747
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,440
school should automatically do
it.

748
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,560
That encourages, right?
So what I'm saying is that's

749
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,560
great.
A parent can give as much

750
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,880
consent as they want, but I'm a
school and I'm going to have

751
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,080
certain lines and boundaries
because I understand the dangers

752
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,160
of online.
I understand the algorithm is

753
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,560
horrendous.
The fact that anything I do as

754
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,480
an institution, all my staff do
as an institution that

755
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,440
glamorises that in terms of the
children seeing themselves on it

756
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,720
is insane to me.
So this is where the line I draw

757
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,480
with what we do we do a lot of
us chatting like this, this

758
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,080
might turn into a real itself.
This might find itself on the

759
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,320
TikTok algorithm right now.
Yeah, OK this this is very

760
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,240
different to me to putting a
child into that situation which

761
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,320
we know as a school and we'll do
parents evening talks about

762
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,000
safety online.
How on earth can I stand there

763
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,000
as a head and deliver that or as
a teacher whilst I'm

764
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,200
simultaneously saying well the
parents said it can go on TikTok

765
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,120
then it's all good mate cheers.
Yeah yeah, of course it's just

766
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,360
not the idea of consent alone is
enough to allow something

767
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,640
doesn't wash with me.
So when someone says, well, I've

768
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,360
got the from the parents, it's
fine, isn't it?

769
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,880
I still think no.
Yeah, that's something for me.

770
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,520
For all the reasons I've
outlined, no.

771
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,480
Like a wider ethical
consideration isn't there?

772
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,080
That's not, that's not about
just simply a parent has given

773
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,560
me consent, therefore I can now
do it.

774
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,280
It's a wider ethical debate.
I think it's, I think it's a

775
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,240
really, really interesting
point.

776
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,760
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I don't.

777
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,360
I think it's interesting because
again, I want to clarify to

778
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,480
people right now, because a lot
of people push back and say,

779
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,880
well, teachers aren't paid
enough, they're getting some

780
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,680
money from this.
I agree, teachers aren't paid

781
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,280
enough.
We can still have a disagreement

782
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,560
here.
And also, I'm not saying

783
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,960
children shouldn't be in
anything ever.

784
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,960
OK, I've seen I've seen lovely
website pictures of children

785
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,560
doing their learning on the
website.

786
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,920
It's so nice.
I think that I I think that's

787
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,560
OK.
We're not we're not, we're not,

788
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,480
you know, glamorising someone
being famous and a content

789
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,640
creator online younger and
getting them onto an algorithm.

790
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,560
That's a nice picture of you.
I've watched Netflix shows where

791
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,080
there's child actors who are
doing very adult themes that

792
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,120
gives consent.
That's an art form.

793
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,400
That's a different conversation.
Adolescents recently.

794
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,880
Exactly.
That was a young man and I don't

795
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,480
know how old he was, but OK,
imagine he he could have been

796
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,800
young enough to have not been on
TikTok and he's doing a video

797
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,480
about how he's on Instagram.
He's doing this, sorry, a

798
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,400
television show, but how he's on
Instagram, there's emojis,

799
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,880
there's murd.
And and so I'm not don't think

800
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,840
I'm saying I'm going over the I
don't think I'm going over the

801
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,120
top here with safeguarding in
terms of like, no, not ever.

802
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,200
We should protect the children
at all times, but they're

803
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,720
obviously going to be times.
I just think in this situation

804
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,520
but wouldn't open that kind of
1.

805
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,560
Yeah, it sounds like the wider
problem there is, like it's

806
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,360
specifically to do with social
media as well, isn't it?

807
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,640
It's about that.
It's the, it's the Ave in which

808
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,120
this media is being shared, like
you said, a school website.

809
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520
It's not, it's not promoting any
like underage use of social

810
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,160
media that we shouldn't be doing
that we know is rotting

811
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,040
children's brains anyway.
It's a website.

812
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,560
And even, like, when I've seen
like, schools having social

813
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,880
media, they don't have an
Instagram account.

814
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,800
There's a picture of of like the
team playing football that's

815
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,240
very different.
Again, we're talking about

816
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,640
different stuff here when we're
doing online trends that boost

817
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,680
the algorithm for kids, for
children.

818
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,680
I just think it's just a step
too far.

819
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,960
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not saying no school should

820
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,160
ever have an Instagram account
anymore.

821
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,040
Yeah, no, of course they should.
And that's fine.

822
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,800
And there's consent there.
I just think consent alone

823
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,120
doesn't convince me to do
something.

824
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,880
I have to look at the wider
picture and and just.

825
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,320
Decide case by case almost with
the.

826
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,400
School isn't it?
Absolutely.

827
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,080
What if?
OK, I'll challenge you one last

828
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,520
time here because I mean, I'm
really into this.

829
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,160
And now you've mentioned school
Instagram accounts.

830
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,440
It's like it's reopened my mind
to blur.

831
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Yeah, all right, school
Instagram account, they've got

832
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,960
all the consent, blah, blah,
blah.

833
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,080
They've done it all properly.
And then they start doing on

834
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,480
their school Instagram account
similar kind of content.

835
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,720
So like like more virally typed
content, things where it's like

836
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,560
these are trends and we do it
because we know the kids will

837
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,640
enjoy it.
We know the kids will like this

838
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,760
is like a treat for them.
If they've done well this week,

839
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,320
they get to be in our next
Instagram Reel.

840
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,680
We do 1A week.
What's your opinion then on

841
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,560
school TikTok or school
Instagram accounts going further

842
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,560
than just, OK, it's a picture of
other kids doing football or

843
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520
something.
You might know what you might

844
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,640
put in a newspaper on a website.
And it goes a bit more down the

845
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,520
lines of we're doing this
because it's fun and it's social

846
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,080
media and it might go viral.
And I wouldn't do it.

847
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,200
No, no, I wouldn't.
I would not do that.

848
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,600
That would be the distinction, I
think.

849
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,480
And again, I'm saying push me
back like I I might move here

850
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,720
because I'm.
I'm saying there's certain

851
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,400
things where I get consent, like
giving medical assistance if

852
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,680
someone's poorly on a school
trip.

853
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,120
We need consent to do that,
right?

854
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,720
Yeah.
And if I get to do that, I'm

855
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,560
gonna do it.
Yeah, if the child needs it,

856
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,440
right.
If I get consent to have bleach

857
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,480
as an option to drink at
lunchtime.

858
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,400
Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm still
not gonna do it.

859
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240
So there's a line somewhere,
somewhere, And this is tricky,

860
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,520
and this is where we can have a
discussion.

861
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,600
I'm just trying to explain where
my line is and it's somewhere

862
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,960
between that do.
You think it's the purpose?

863
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,160
Maybe.
I think it's the purpose.

864
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,440
It's the purpose, like a picture
of a school team.

865
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,320
It is for the parents.
Yeah, it is for the parents just

866
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,400
to say this is what your kids
achieve.

867
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,760
Well done.
The kids can look at it as well

868
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,800
if they want to see their
achievement.

869
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,680
But really it's to show off an
achievement Exactly.

870
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,920
If a school if a school
Instagram account did a thing

871
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,880
like.
A a viral viral.

872
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,720
There's tonnes of dances and
sounds in there.

873
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,680
Yeah, they did one of those.
Come on kids, get in.

874
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,960
That's not really for the
parents.

875
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,120
So I'm gonna try and clarify
here.

876
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840
OK?
If only the staff did that viral

877
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040
trend and it was after school
completely fine.

878
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,199
Yeah, yeah, that's this is what
this is what I'm sure.

879
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,639
So I'm not against schools doing
this or having a social media

880
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,040
presence or their teachers being
online.

881
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,920
But the kids don't need to.
I'm the children don't need to

882
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,040
be there in that context.
And one final point, because my

883
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,800
last thing that I thought of,
it's something you've got to

884
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,440
fall after.
I know it's because like, this

885
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,440
is a good conversation here.
Really.

886
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,199
Like, I've never really thought
this deeply about this before,

887
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:29,760
but like, OK, you could even go
down the avenue of you could

888
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,639
still make these videos and
things in school with children

889
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,360
if it was on a school iPad and
it didn't go any further than

890
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,360
the school, like internal.
It's fun.

891
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,239
You know how we do like green
screen videos and kids?

892
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,239
They do like a news report.
That's a classic thing.

893
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,600
You could still make these
videos, but it just it's on a

894
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,719
school like Precise, it's not on
your personal phone and it's not

895
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,560
for your personal TikTok.
That's another really good

896
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,800
distinction to make because I
think it really clarifies the

897
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,639
issue here.
The issue is the algorithm and

898
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,639
the and the viral trend seeking
stuff.

899
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,760
That's the issue.
If it's on an iPad, I would do

900
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,160
that in a blink of an eye.
I think that would be so

901
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,800
engaging for the kids and so
fun.

902
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,920
It's on a school iPad.
We're going to change the green

903
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,240
screen backgrounds.
You're going to do a little

904
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:08,640
dance.
Great, that's fantastic.

905
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,520
And even if it's just to do with
learning like literacy of, of

906
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,360
online and how and how things
work in terms like editing

907
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,240
software on like an app and
stuff like that, I think all

908
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:18,760
that's fine.
I really do.

909
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,040
I think that really nicely draws
the line of just, I hope it's

910
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,640
clear to people listening where
I stand on this.

911
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,800
And again, I hope that if
someone's listening to this and

912
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,600
they think, well, I'm that
person who has consent and I do

913
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,400
this kind of thing.
I, I I'm not saying you're a

914
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,440
good or a mad teacher.
My point here is exactly the

915
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,400
opposite.
I don't think it remotely

916
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,840
defines what you like as a
teacher.

917
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Sure, whether you post these
things, I think so either.

918
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,920
But it, it could, it could
define where you are morally or

919
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,440
ethically.
It will.

920
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,320
Like you might just be on a
different scale to me.

921
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,680
I think you're on a different
scale to me still.

922
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,280
Yeah, But what I would like to
take away from this is when

923
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,280
people think automatically those
influencers are the best

924
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,600
teachers in the world and
therefore everyone else.

925
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,960
It's does not work like that.
I want the I want general public

926
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,640
to understand it does not work
like that.

927
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,800
Nearly every teacher.
I very, very, very rarely seen

928
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,160
something posted by these people
which I've not known have all

929
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,640
seen before.
So it's not it's, please don't

930
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,840
think that wow, these people are
on the pedestal.

931
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,120
And honestly, when people do
that and you see people in high

932
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,080
positions, like huge brands and
even the government etcetera,

933
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,440
almost rewarding it, I do feel
very uncomfortable.

934
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,920
Yeah, I've noticed that as well.
Yeah, it's because do you know

935
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,240
why?
Do you know why brands do it?

936
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,400
It's because they're seeing that
this is a commercialised thing.

937
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,640
It's nothing.
It's clout.

938
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,800
It's nothing to do with the
kids.

939
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,280
They're just like all those
people comment on this, I'll

940
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,680
comment on this as Heinz beans
and maybe people comment on our

941
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,480
thing, go to our things.
They just care about business.

942
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,040
It shows.
If anything, it is this is a

943
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,440
business thing, not actually a
thing for.

944
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,360
Anyway, that was a that was a
good.

945
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,640
I enjoyed that conversation so
I'm glad I would have clarified

946
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,880
it more.
I feel like my line is a bit

947
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,360
more set now because I didn't
really have a line before.

948
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,480
I didn't thought about it
enough.

949
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,400
I don't think I've ever changed
my mind so.

950
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,840
No, I'm exactly impossible.
You're extremely arrogant, so

951
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,800
come on.
I'm joking.

952
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,120
I'm joking.
I've changed my mind a lot.

953
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:06,440
Clarify.
I feel like we came to a like a

954
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,120
a, a proper place there together
by thinking about different

955
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,160
things.
That's lovely.

956
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:12,400
Should we do what we're actually
here to do?

957
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,920
Oh, I guess.
So, tips for some time?

958
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Let's play the Jingle right?
We've made it.

959
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,880
It's summer term, so here are a
bunch of tips that we put

960
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,360
together that we think will help
you get through it as a busy,

961
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,280
overworked teacher.
I've got the first one.

962
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,880
If you don't mind, go.
On, of course.

963
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,160
You come straight again?
Yeah, again.

964
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,440
Okay, first one is you have
until the May, the 31st to

965
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,680
resign.
That's the we have not planned.

966
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,600
Hang on.
Hang on, this is not tip.

967
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,760
It's important.
It's important.

968
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,080
Tip, tip #1 genuinely, yeah,
genuinely, I'm just going to say

969
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,000
this right now, OK?
May the 31st is genuinely the

970
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,040
deadline if you wanted to hand
your notice in.

971
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,760
And it's important.
No, it's important because a lot

972
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,120
of people out there who'll be
toying it is.

973
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,400
Important.
It's just funny that you came in

974
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,520
with a tip.
That's our tip.

975
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,360
It's our tip.
Is it?

976
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,880
How can I get through this last
time?

977
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,480
Know you're quitting at the end.
That'll get you through.

978
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,160
It this is a notification.
This is not a tip.

979
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,120
That's really funny.
Can I go OK, The Clara, this is

980
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,200
not that's not tip number one.
Yeah, I'm going to come in with

981
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,160
a real tip number.
One tip #1 tip #1 get Looking

982
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,000
for new scores?
Go go and look.

983
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,280
But seriously, if you're in a
doctor's school, I'm going to

984
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,000
make this point because I think
it's important because a lot of

985
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,480
people listen and they are in a
school where they listen to

986
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,080
everything we say and like, I
just can't do this.

987
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,320
You know, we said before, like
we'll just try and push back.

988
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,240
No, you're right to yourself.
Still be in a school, which is

989
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,000
just like, no, get out of that
school.

990
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,960
Go and try a different school.
Go and try something new.

991
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,760
So go and get looking.
Go on your web, whatever website

992
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,960
is relevant to where you live.
We've got Kent teach and ask.

993
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,800
It's Kent where all of the
applications are done and you

994
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,800
can go and have an interview
somewhere else.

995
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,520
It's all allowed.
Just do it.

996
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,000
Get doing.
Until when, when can I do that?

997
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,560
Until.
And that is May the 31st because

998
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,200
it's three months.
Well, your funny thing turned

999
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,760
into a kind of a real tip.
I'll give you that.

1000
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,520
I'll give it a half tip.
It's a half tip.

1001
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,160
So the second-half of tip #1
Yep, the second-half tip, tip

1002
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
number nought .5 is, is actually
a real one.

1003
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,120
It's about prioritising in the
summer term, prioritise.

1004
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,360
You need to prioritise more than
ever, more than any point in the

1005
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,000
year.
You've told me to prioritise all

1006
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,960
the time.
Why is it particularly important

1007
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,720
now?
That so much more happens at

1008
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:07,760
this point in the year.
Yes, we should.

1009
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,040
We should always prioritise.
Maybe that was a bit patronising

1010
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,440
of me.
Of course we should prioritise

1011
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,120
in general, but at this point of
the year, you can expect even

1012
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,200
more things piled on top.
Things like reports, if you're

1013
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,040
in year 6, you'll have a school
play, end of year activities,

1014
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,560
parent evenings, whatever you've
got like all these things that

1015
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,400
just kind of like happen at the
end of the year at once, or at

1016
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,000
least within a term, you'd need
to prioritise because you can't.

1017
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,760
What you can't just do is be
like, OK, I'll just do all those

1018
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,160
things on top of my, my workload
that already goes over my hours.

1019
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,880
You can't just do that.
You have to look at things and

1020
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,560
be like, OK, well, in this term,
even though all year I've been

1021
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,000
quite happy doing this job and
this job and this job, I'm not

1022
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,560
going to do that one anymore
because I need to make some room

1023
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,120
for this parent consultation,
that meeting that I've got to

1024
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,120
write all these notes for and
I've got to start doing my

1025
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,400
report.
So I'm going to need to drop

1026
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,360
this task as well.
That is OK.

1027
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,200
We are professionals.
If you go into any private

1028
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,000
sector ever, they, they will
have, you know, tables, they

1029
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,160
will do certain things in
certain times and some things

1030
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,720
won't get done.
They'll get pushed into next

1031
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,800
week or they just say we're not
doing that at the moment because

1032
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,880
our focus is this like, you
don't get to just pile on and on

1033
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,120
and on and on and on.
OK.

1034
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,080
And I guess one big thing when
we're prioritising is why it's

1035
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,640
so important as teachers is you
talked about in the private

1036
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,720
sector, you have like a
timetable, you can jiggle stuff

1037
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:22,360
around 80% of our time.
We can't jiggle around 80% of

1038
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,440
our time is set in stone.
We need to teach English then

1039
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,000
and maths then and do those.
No, you can't drop them.

1040
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,680
So when we're saying
prioritising, it's even more

1041
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,240
important because we have such
less time to play with in order

1042
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,240
to prioritise.
And you're absolutely right, I

1043
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:37,160
think this it's about knowing
your contract, right?

1044
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,440
We said it a million times
before but guys know them.

1045
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,560
If you are being asked to do 2
things and one of them is to re

1046
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,480
back and do every single display
that's in the school corridor

1047
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,800
and the other one is to write
and prepare for your end of year

1048
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,760
play.
OK, Out of those two, you could

1049
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,200
know your, you could know your
contract and be like, to be

1050
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,200
honest with you, I don't think
it's really reasonable to ask me

1051
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,720
to do either of them.
But what most teachers will do,

1052
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,160
if they know that they'll go,
OK, I understand.

1053
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,320
Look, both of these I OK, I
don't actually have to do them

1054
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,520
on my contract, but I'm a
teacher and this is what most

1055
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,960
people think.
I go, of course I'm going to

1056
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,160
help out with the school play.
Yeah, that's really important to

1057
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,880
me and my kids.
That's actually going to have a

1058
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,920
lasting impact on a lot of them.
There'll be children who've

1059
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,200
waited all year to have this
kind of go at doing acting

1060
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,360
because it's what they love
doing.

1061
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,800
They've gone through all the
SAT's.

1062
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,120
Cool, I am going to do that.
But do you know what I'm not

1063
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,000
going to do?
The displays.

1064
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,160
So knowing your contract, it
doesn't mean you have to say no

1065
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,640
to everything that ever gets
asked you ever.

1066
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,320
That's outside of this black and
white thing, because that's just

1067
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,960
not what we do as teachers.
But what it does allow you to do

1068
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,080
is to say no to certain things.
I really love your vendetta

1069
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,960
against display.
I hate, I want to make a Super

1070
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,240
Cup.
I get the energy.

1071
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,400
At some point I need to go back
for our episodes and listen and

1072
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,080
find the times where you where
your natural analogy of like

1073
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,800
some pointless work is, is a
display because it's always a

1074
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,120
display.
It's really funny.

1075
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,600
Did the problem with because
people always come back to me

1076
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,800
and they'll be like they either
like agreed or there's some

1077
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,840
people like, well, it can be
useful and sometimes I'm like,

1078
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,520
I'm past the point now where I
even accept that I'm like, I, I,

1079
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,360
I know, right, But I don't care.
I'm just, I just hate displays,

1080
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,080
hate hating.
Them, but you know what it does

1081
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,920
make me think they're another
another sort of point within

1082
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,080
this is like work smart as well,
because you know what and work

1083
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,360
within your school policies.
Schools have different policies.

1084
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,160
Like you might have a school
where you have a resource

1085
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,320
creator, right?
And someone's saying to you, you

1086
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,480
need to get these displays done.
It turns from a horrible task

1087
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,080
to, well, hang on, actually all
I need to do to do that is say

1088
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,400
to this person, I need these
three things back to delegation.

1089
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,280
And you can delegate it.
You might not work in a school

1090
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,000
where you can do that.
And at that point, if you work

1091
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,360
in a school, it's like, no, you
have to do it.

1092
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,200
I'd be like, okay, no, right,
no, that's not happening.

1093
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,480
But if I can work smart and
still get it done, you know then

1094
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,120
obviously.
And if it's.

1095
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Someone's role to do it, yeah.
I mean, you don't need to.

1096
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,120
Sometimes I feel like we, we're
suggesting like put up a put up

1097
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,800
a stern wall of like, no, I
don't have to.

1098
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,400
You don't have to be difficult
for the sake of it.

1099
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,920
If there's a way of managing
that job and getting it done and

1100
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000
it really hasn't cost too much
time, obviously just do it.

1101
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,800
But if there's not, then don't.
Yeah.

1102
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,200
So next 1.2, I guess it's .3
because my first point was very

1103
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,200
serious. 1.1.7, OK, gosh, we're
going to lose track of the next

1104
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,760
one.
It's kind of linked to what you

1105
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,240
just said about prioritising
because this, this was kind of

1106
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:03,720
born from that is, is plan for
disruption.

1107
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,720
And we all know, especially we
work in a primary school, but

1108
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:07,920
I'm sure it's the same in
secondary school.

1109
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,320
There's always something going
on.

1110
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,000
We've talked about a lot about
how boosters for Sats have

1111
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,120
disrupted things.
But in the summer term, my

1112
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,400
goodness me, you mentioned you
kind of touched on all the

1113
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,400
things that can happen in the
summer term, which I wouldn't

1114
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,400
change for the world.
Things like trips, like you

1115
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,480
said, to sports days, the summer
fair, there's transition day in

1116
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,760
there.
There's end of school.

1117
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,760
Parties.
There's tests that we have to

1118
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,480
get done, there's long
assemblies for big celebrations,

1119
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,560
there's church visits if you
work in a church school.

1120
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:38,480
There's May 31st.
But the point being there's,

1121
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,280
there's more disruption than
ever in summertime.

1122
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,800
So just plan for that and get
your dates in your diary and,

1123
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,840
and work around this.
And I think a big thing for me

1124
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,560
that that I really love doing at
this point in the year is in

1125
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,760
September, you can't really
think about the whole year.

1126
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,280
It's almost too long.
You can have a really too.

1127
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,880
Many things will change it.
Yeah, exactly.

1128
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,160
You have a really vague long
term plan about like maybe books

1129
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,240
you gonna cover in English and
stuff, but yeah, you just

1130
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,440
concentrate on your next term.
Yeah, we're at the point of the

1131
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,720
year now where I like to
actually think, well, I can

1132
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,160
really compartmentalise.
I've got 12 weeks left.

1133
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,320
Yeah, or wherever it might be,
or 11 weeks because it's quite a

1134
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,040
short term.
I can really now look ahead.

1135
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,160
And a big thing that helps me is
to know exactly how much

1136
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,600
planning I've got left.
So we'll we'll share planning in

1137
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,720
in our school.
So I'll share maths planning

1138
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,720
with my partner teacher and
we'll also share English

1139
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:27,600
planning because we have mixed
sets and we go through the same

1140
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,880
book and how we're group.
So I know what maths I've got to

1141
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,160
plan for the rest of the year.
I know what English I've got to

1142
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,360
plan for the rest of the year.
And I also know what topics in

1143
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,640
the afternoon I need to do.
For example, I know I've got an

1144
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,080
RE unit to plan, I think in term
6 and we've got a cooking unit

1145
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,720
to plan as well.
And then so I'm done.

1146
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,320
So then we're done at the end of
the year.

1147
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,440
And and knowing that, why?
Why do you think that might be

1148
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,120
really beneficial for someone to
have?

1149
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,960
Well, firstly, it's a finite
manageable time, isn't it?

1150
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,560
Whereas like you said, at the
beginning of the year, it's not.

1151
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,960
Well, it's useful because then
you can plan ahead for summer,

1152
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,560
right?
You can literally, you literally

1153
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,120
know your end point.
Yes, you can think about what

1154
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,400
you're gonna do in the summer.
You can think about next year.

1155
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,120
You can, I don't know, you can
just be organised, right is?

1156
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,760
That what you're gonna do,
That's, that's it.

1157
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,760
That's essentially it.
It's like, I know I've got this

1158
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,880
to do.
It doesn't mean I'm going to do

1159
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,600
it now, but it means OK.
Actually, if I think about it,

1160
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,800
I've got X amount of lessons to
plan.

1161
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,440
Yeah, I'll do that mass bit of
planning here.

1162
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,600
I'll do that bit of English
planning on my PPA at this

1163
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,280
point.
Oh, I know because I planned

1164
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,280
ahead actually when PPA has
changed that week.

1165
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,400
So I'm going to get it done
early.

1166
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,520
Yeah.
So just just having all this

1167
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,600
information, because it's such a
small amount of time now until

1168
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,920
the end of the year, I feel like
you're in a position where you

1169
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,000
can be really powerful of what
you know.

1170
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,240
Definitely.
And just going back to your

1171
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,200
original point about just
planning for disruption in

1172
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,240
general, right, How just a
thought experiment, how many

1173
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,320
times in your career,
particularly earlier on, right,

1174
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,960
have you spent time mapping out
a medium term plan?

1175
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,440
OK, maybe for maths or English
or whatever, and you've done day

1176
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,880
by day and each week I'm going
to cover these objectives and

1177
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,080
then you.
And then as the term progresses,

1178
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,560
you're like, oh, I forgot about
the summer fair that's ruined

1179
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,400
that.
I'm going to push everything

1180
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,440
back.
Oh that's messed up my thing

1181
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,040
because I it.
Was a first aid course as well.

1182
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,120
That was a birthday.
Course.

1183
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,520
Oh, and then this and then
suddenly 6 things have happened

1184
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,520
that you've not planned for.
You've spent all that time in a

1185
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,360
medium term plan.
It's completely useless now

1186
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,880
because six lessons have been
pushed out.

1187
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,520
Do you know what?
And the worst thing, I'll just

1188
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,480
say this.
The worst thing is when in other

1189
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,160
terms at least you can generally
be like, OK, I'll push it into

1190
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,840
next term.
If you do that in term 6, you

1191
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,800
generally get to a point where
you're stuck.

1192
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,240
It's like if you've actually
planned and every single lesson

1193
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:19,120
slot and you've really not
thought about the disruption

1194
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,080
that's going to happen, you're
going to get to a point where

1195
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,720
like I've actually got a
sacrifice lessons now because

1196
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:24,040
it's too late.
I can't push them into next

1197
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,000
time.
And you don't cover some of the

1198
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,080
curriculum.
Yeah, exactly.

1199
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,960
So you've just got to be really
careful, plan for the

1200
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,320
disruption.
I what I do now is like being

1201
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,520
more experienced is I leave.
Are you going to say this when

1202
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,000
I've just stolen your point?
No, no, no.

1203
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,560
When every medium term plan I do
now for every term in fact and

1204
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,280
more in the summer, I always
leave about 3 or 4 lessons

1205
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,760
genuinely blank in because I
just know something's going to

1206
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,280
happen.
Happened.

1207
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,680
I didn't even, it wasn't even in
the diary.

1208
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,560
I didn't even know about it.
Like, you know, even.

1209
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,720
If it was, you wouldn't know
about it.

1210
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,520
Yeah, if it was, you wouldn't
know about it or someone's

1211
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,800
forgotten or whatever.
And or even a lesson doesn't go

1212
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,120
very well.
You need to do it over 2 days

1213
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,480
now.
And you know, you've got that

1214
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,080
flexibility.
So when you're planning your,

1215
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,320
you know, your term or the rest
of your year, whatever, at this

1216
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,800
point of the year, leave some
space, leave some room, leave

1217
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,600
four or five lessons completely
blank because you will fill

1218
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:08,520
them.
Right, stop talking.

1219
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,720
We need to get through all of
these things.

1220
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,640
Next one, assessment.
So assessment's huge at the end

1221
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,920
of the year.
At the end of the year, you need

1222
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,280
to give your basically your
formative assessment and you

1223
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,720
have your summative assessment.
So let's just separate these two

1224
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,240
out very quickly and give you
some advice for summative

1225
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:23,800
assessment, we're talking about
when children sit tests at the

1226
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,720
end of the year.
Now, depending on what school

1227
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:28,880
you're in, there can be huge
pressure for SLT to have seen

1228
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,240
lots of movement and data points
going in a certain direction.

1229
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,440
This can cause a lot of stress
on the teacher and it can push

1230
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,920
teachers to be very tempted to
do a little bit of bulging.

1231
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,360
Now, I'm going to be really
honest with you, OK?

1232
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,840
I personally have never bodged
the test, but I absolutely at

1233
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,040
the start of my career felt that
pressure to have lots of

1234
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,000
movement where it would get me
stressed and wound up and I'd

1235
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,280
feel like I got I need to need
to drill these children with all

1236
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,520
these different things that
might come up.

1237
00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:56,920
And I'd start guessing what will
come up.

1238
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,160
And I'd be like, well, actually
previously we did this, so let's

1239
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,920
do that again.
Oh, last year what came up in

1240
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,160
the test that started to come up
again.

1241
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,280
And you start to think about how
you can boost your scores more

1242
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,280
than how you can help the kids
get.

1243
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Better.
Yeah, that's so true, isn't it?

1244
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,600
Well, you're obviously a very
good person because in my first

1245
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,320
year, I'll be, I'm completely
happy to admit this.

1246
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,920
I didn't bodge my I've never
ever, ever looked at data and

1247
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,440
changed it.
I've never done anything in

1248
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,640
post.
The kids get what they get.

1249
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,120
But one thing I did do and I and
I got told off for this in my

1250
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,360
first year.
And it's sad of me because I was

1251
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,120
like, I don't want to get told
off And and I've never done it

1252
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,200
since because I thought, yeah,
that's what was I thinking that

1253
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,280
was terrible was I knew the test
content.

1254
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,360
So I was in a year 4 class.
I knew what we did the same

1255
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,080
tests every time.
So they don't even pre printed.

1256
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,360
I knew what was in there and I
flicked through it like 2 weeks

1257
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,000
before.
And then I made sure in all my

1258
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,680
lesson starters in those two
weeks for the test, I made sure

1259
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,600
to cover extremely similar
questions.

1260
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Like literally I'd, I'd be like,
OK, that's they've done a

1261
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,240
hexagon with this thing.
I'm going to do a Pentagon with

1262
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,280
this thing.
It was like so similar where

1263
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,280
it's like, I've clearly just
copied the test question put

1264
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,520
into like a PowerPoint.
And then we just did those

1265
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,360
questions along the way.
And I thought, that's good

1266
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,600
because I'm not cheating.
It's not the actual question.

1267
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,920
It's just revision.
And it's like, yeah, but it is

1268
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,200
though, isn't it?
Because in a real test

1269
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,440
environment, you don't know,
like I've been year 6 for so

1270
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,480
long now, I've actually got very
used to like, we don't see the

1271
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,080
SAT papers until the 2nd.
The kids are opening them, doing

1272
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,720
them.
There's not even a possibility

1273
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:10,360
of doing that anymore.
And I'm like, yeah, that should

1274
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,600
be how it is in all year groups.
Because it's no longer problem

1275
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,000
solving if the children have had
the.

1276
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,360
Content.
And then the data is not real.

1277
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,000
So what we're saying here is
don't do that.

1278
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,600
Don't be.
It's so tempting.

1279
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,000
I succumbed to the pressure.
Yeah.

1280
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,760
That break the chain.
Don't do it.

1281
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,360
Yeah.
And call out other people that

1282
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,000
do it because it happens so much
in school.

1283
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,560
You haven't have a new amount of
school again.

1284
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,760
There was someone who rubbed out
answers in an English

1285
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,960
comprehension test.
Yeah.

1286
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,440
Do you know when you can, like,
match things up?

1287
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:35,880
So in a comprehension, you can,
like, write words or you can

1288
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,280
match up answers?
Yeah, every.

1289
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,120
It's weird because every single
child who did that test in their

1290
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,880
room got all of the match up.
Questions.

1291
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,560
Yeah, all ones.
Because they were all like

1292
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,360
rubbed out.
So because they're obviously

1293
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,600
easier to rub out and this is
talking about a teacher

1294
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,720
afterwards after the fact going
back, rubbing out answers and

1295
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:52,240
doing them.
Again, the data was to give the

1296
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:53,160
data.
I remember that.

1297
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,920
So it was skewed.
It was like, hilariously, I was

1298
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,080
so badly off where it was like,
you can't even like pretend this

1299
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,000
is.
Real There were children who

1300
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,160
couldn't read properly.
Yeah, getting like great to

1301
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,640
depth, right?
So yeah, so it's just don't do

1302
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,000
it because break the chain if
you if you think the person

1303
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,280
before you has done it, yeah, be
the honest person and it can be

1304
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,680
really put a target on your back
so I can.

1305
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,280
See what people can do, you can
do with that, just don't be

1306
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,200
tempted to is giving marks where
they're not deserves.

1307
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,960
When you're marking papers
you're like I know what the kid

1308
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,880
means, if it doesn't fit the
mark scheme, don't give on the

1309
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,200
mark.
Genuinely just be harsh.

1310
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,720
Be harsh with your marking, it's
good to do.

1311
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,240
Very quickly, formative
assessment then is when the

1312
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:27,680
teacher at the end, for example,
we'll sit down for history and

1313
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,320
we'll say this child is expected
in history.

1314
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,480
Yeah.
And then we'll do that for all

1315
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:32,760
of our class.
Then we do it for geography,

1316
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,400
then we do it for science.
Based on this, it's all that

1317
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,000
teacher guys, do not spend 10
minutes going through every

1318
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,560
single history book doing this.
Judgments.

1319
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,600
OK, Think back to when you
taught them history.

1320
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,120
Think back to when you spent
hours and hours doing marking

1321
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,720
and just give them the level
that you know they are OK.

1322
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
You do not.
You do not need to go traipsing

1323
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,880
through books for 80 to 90% of
your children.

1324
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:52,840
You will already know where they
are.

1325
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,360
I'll be able to say to you, this
person expected that person or I

1326
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,000
remember their work was great to
depth, absolutely fantastic.

1327
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,040
Don't spend age Dick, because it
is utterly pointless.

1328
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,360
And even though someone can
might sit there and explain to

1329
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,160
you why it's so important that
we really intricately give an

1330
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,000
assessment for history in each
of the different strands and

1331
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,680
geography and stuff, it just
isn't so It's just not worth

1332
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,040
your time.
And when we're talking about

1333
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,840
prioritising earlier, the
priority there is called stop

1334
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,480
doing that.
Go and get ready for something

1335
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,360
else which is actually important
and will actually help the kids

1336
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,920
out, because this won't.
Two last tips from me on on

1337
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,000
assessment.
Number one, stop inputting data

1338
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,960
in more one place.
I was going to say that like we

1339
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,640
we know not to not do this and
we all still do it sometimes.

1340
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,640
You should not be triple, triple
assessing.

1341
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,480
If you put it one place that's
good enough, your score, they

1342
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,320
want to put it somewhere else,
say, OK, cool, here's my

1343
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,840
spreadsheet.
You crack on, then that's not

1344
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,400
your job to do that.
And lastly, don't compare with

1345
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,400
your last cohort.
It's very, very tempting.

1346
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,000
I know a lot of, I think, in
fact, I think most schools, they

1347
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,480
like to look at the data from
the previous cohort, say, oh,

1348
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,320
your last year 4 class, they got
this data, but your year 4 class

1349
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,800
this year, they're a bit behind,
aren't they?

1350
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,720
Cohorts are completely,
completely incomparable.

1351
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:57,720
It's so random because some
years it'll be a, it'll be a

1352
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:00,320
fantastic view of vanity because
you'll have a better cohort.

1353
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,840
Nothing to do with you.
Sorry, guys, nothing to do with

1354
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:03,840
you.
They were just a better cohort

1355
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,120
in other years.
They're way lower and it's oh

1356
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,680
now you didn't know, you're just
disappointed in yourself.

1357
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,520
You think you're a rubbish
teacher.

1358
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,720
It's literally nothing to do
with you.

1359
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,000
Please stop comparing the
previous cohorts.

1360
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,840
Only compare the progress data
of the actual child.

1361
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,280
You can look at their data when
they're in the year before and

1362
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,920
see if they're sort of on track
for the same place.

1363
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,680
Don't look at other kids and
compare them.

1364
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,520
What's the point, stupid?
And that's where the consistency

1365
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,640
really helps because if you
spend a few years with good

1366
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,520
results, being the person who
says, please don't know, listen,

1367
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,200
these kids are these kids came
up in a really good solid

1368
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,160
position.
Actually, it's not me that

1369
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,040
really, really stands you in
good stead when inevitably you

1370
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,240
will have children who are just
lower, who have still made

1371
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:41,000
excellent progress for you to be
like, no, no, you can't moan at

1372
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,600
me.
Just like I said earlier, don't,

1373
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,840
don't praise me.
Let's just look at the progress

1374
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,200
because some SLTS still get
trapped into all these cohorts a

1375
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,200
bit lower, aren't they what we
doing?

1376
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,200
Like, OK, we're going to do what
we do anyway.

1377
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,600
Why are we comparing them?
It's going to.

1378
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,720
Help these kids, I feel, I feel,
I feel bad for the SLT sometimes

1379
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:55,640
because they feel the pressure
too.

1380
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,960
That's them for coming to that
pressure.

1381
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,640
Top down of well, our data last
year our that data last year we

1382
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,240
got 90% through in maths and
this year we're looking at 70%.

1383
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,040
What have we done wrong?
Literally nothing.

1384
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,520
Yes, literally nothing.
The kids are just not as

1385
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,840
intelligent.
They're just not there.

1386
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,480
The cohort is different.
Yeah, and that's fine.

1387
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,960
They could have still made
progress.

1388
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,480
Yeah, they all did.
They all make the same progress.

1389
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,160
Yeah, but they didn't make
accelerated progress to get to

1390
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,920
that 90%.
Yeah.

1391
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,960
Oh well, OK, cool.
It almost becomes resentful that

1392
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,640
kids do so well.
It's like oh God, I've got 94%

1393
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,800
this year.
Next year is going to be awful.

1394
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,680
What?
Yeah, well, just celebrate.

1395
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,000
Things, it's fine, right?
Next one.

1396
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,400
This is a very short one and to
me it's really important.

1397
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,480
It's really, really important.
Just because the evenings are

1398
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,360
getting longer and it's sunny
till late and you leave school

1399
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,800
and it's delightful, it doesn't
mean you have to work longer,

1400
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:38,640
OK?
It doesn't mean the actual day

1401
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,480
has not got longer.
Don't feel like your work needs

1402
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,880
to bleed into the evenings
anymore.

1403
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Do you know what?
If anything, you should be

1404
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,720
leaving earlier to go and enjoy
it?

1405
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,600
Enjoy your evening plan non
negotiables whilst it's sunny on

1406
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,080
Tuesday.
I'm doing this at six, I don't

1407
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,840
care.
I'm doing this at 5.

1408
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,560
I'm leaving at half four.
Who cares?

1409
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,400
And if someone in the school
wants to mask themselves to make

1410
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,680
a comment and say how they're
staying so late because that's

1411
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,520
not like a teacher.
Honestly I've learnt something

1412
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,880
this week.
It's called an Irish goodbye.

1413
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,720
Do you want an Irish goodbye?
Yes please tell me.

1414
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:08,840
Just leaving without saying
anything.

1415
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,880
So I stand a goodbye but see you
later where you're off to and

1416
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,560
you end up having like a 10
minute chat when you actually

1417
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,360
leave.
An Irish goodbye is literally

1418
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,320
getting up and leaving and and I
realise I've been doing an Irish

1419
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,560
goodbye for all my career.
That's.

1420
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,200
What you do to me?
Just get up and leave.

1421
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,880
And that's what you see at the
end of the day.

1422
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,720
It's 4:15, and you want to
leave, right?

1423
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,320
Yeah.
You don't need to go and and

1424
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,800
shake hands of anyone and say
good day.

1425
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,160
I've put in a good day's work,
haven't I?

1426
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,600
You're a professional.
You're deciding to leave at

1427
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,520
4:15, Stand up, walk out the
door, drive home.

1428
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,840
See you tomorrow.
Yeah, don't even do that.

1429
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,080
Don't even say you see you
tomorrow.

1430
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,600
Stay in your own head.
Yeah, just leave, It's fine.

1431
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,320
So my very, very short point
here is we don't get much nice

1432
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,080
weather.
We don't get much of the summer.

1433
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,600
It's not a country where we have
this exotic climate all of the

1434
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,600
time.
Just get out early and go and

1435
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,400
enjoy yourself.
Start planning your summer

1436
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,120
holidays, look forward to them,
have something to grasp onto.

1437
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:59,240
We're going away in a couple of
weeks on the bank holiday.

1438
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,560
Can't wait.
It's broken up the year.

1439
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,400
I'm not doing any work that
weekend and I planned ahead and

1440
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,720
I know that's fine.
Well, it's going to work.

1441
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:07,640
My literal next point is very,
very similar.

1442
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,200
I'm still going to keep it as a
separate point, which is

1443
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,520
specifically about planning
ahead.

1444
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,480
So actually like we've talked
about prioritising, I guess it's

1445
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,400
kind of similar, but plan ahead
so that you don't have to work

1446
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:16,240
talking to some.
Holidays.

1447
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,520
Oh, are you talking about like
big end of year?

1448
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,120
I'm talking about, OK, you're
moving classroom, right?

1449
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,320
OK, don't leave it until the
last day to think about it.

1450
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,840
At least think about what you're
going to do because there might

1451
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,080
be some things you can do on the
lead up to it.

1452
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,480
You might have it, you know, the
odd 5 minutes.

1453
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,360
If I can't do this, the odd 5
minutes, you might start

1454
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,200
cleaning out your cupboard.
Sure.

1455
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,200
I love doing that.
I love cleaning out my cupboard

1456
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,840
as the year comes to an end.
And then when the last day is

1457
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,480
over, my cupboard's completely
clear.

1458
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,560
And I'm like, cool, don't have
to do that in the in the summer.

1459
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,040
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.

1460
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,160
And then you can start planning
your some holidays and actually

1461
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,400
plan something for them so you
can look forward to it.

1462
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,880
Give yourself something to look
forward to.

1463
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,560
The summer term is knackering.
Like have something to latch

1464
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,880
onto.
I'm looking forward to a little

1465
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,560
holiday.
Give yourself something as well

1466
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,840
to look forward to.
It doesn't have to be

1467
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,560
extravagant or expensive.
Not be anything.

1468
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,960
It could be going to London for
the day you make, I don't know,

1469
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,880
whatever it is.
Anyway, next one, it's kind of

1470
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,640
linked to what you're saying
again, of little and often.

1471
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,200
So this one here, I guess the
overall point is little and

1472
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,000
often, But my point here is with
report writing, pace it out.

1473
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,400
Report writing is a mammoth job.
Yeah.

1474
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,040
We're not here to talk about
whether your school gives you

1475
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,880
time to do it or not.
That's a separate discussion.

1476
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,560
They should give you some time
to do it, in my opinion.

1477
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,920
But either way, even if they do
give you the time, just start

1478
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,800
pacing out.
Do 1A day, even doing 1A day

1479
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,000
from now, do one child a day.
Yeah, right, yeah, that gets you

1480
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,800
within a month.
You've done all your comments

1481
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,320
for Mass Children in your past.
Easy, okay, Even if you don't

1482
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,120
need to complete your reports
before the half time.

1483
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,680
No, I'm not saying don't do any
in half time because some people

1484
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,440
like to do it in half time.
They've got a day off, they

1485
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,080
block it off and they just do
their work, get them done.

1486
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,920
What I'm saying is anything you
do, anything, even if it's four

1487
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,960
kids before half term, right, If
you start off with the best of

1488
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,360
intentions, that's still 4 kids.
Fewer you've got to do.

1489
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,680
Yeah, exactly.
So just do little and often.

1490
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,000
And I I want to have a very
quick mention about what should

1491
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,440
go into reports.
OK, go on.

1492
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,600
From the top down, you might get
told you need to write 3

1493
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,400
paragraphs about their religious
education experience as well as

1494
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,960
five about themselves and six
about.

1495
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,400
We can't control that, OK, But
here's what we can control

1496
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,240
within the confines of what
you've been asked to do.

1497
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,760
Just think about what parents
actually want to read in a

1498
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,720
report.
Think about the function of a

1499
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,960
report, OK?
A report is something which is

1500
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,400
physical that their parents will
receive.

1501
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,480
And it's got 22 main jobs, in my
opinion, one, to let your let

1502
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,520
your, to formally let the
parents know where the children

1503
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,880
are at.
Yeah, academically,

1504
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,400
academically.
Yeah, academically, that's

1505
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,960
exactly what I meant.
And to basically have a keepsake

1506
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,400
for their child long term so
they can look back and see how

1507
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,600
they were as a person.
Yeah.

1508
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Do you know what?
That's the biggest one to me, I

1509
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:38,960
think.
That's my point, yeah.

1510
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,400
So completely great.
I think expanded in a second.

1511
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,960
But what I'm saying is this
should manifest itself as is for

1512
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,560
attainment.
Can be a box.

1513
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.
Yeah.

1514
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:47,920
Maths.
Just maths.

1515
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,320
Expected writing, working
towards.

1516
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,720
Yeah, just a box for each thing.
And the comment should just be a

1517
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,280
profile about that child based
on you spent a year with them.

1518
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,760
Yeah.
Don't start saying if they can

1519
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,680
defronted variables or not.
Don't start saying if they can

1520
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,320
add on fractions.
Completely irrelevant.

1521
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,560
When you're 40 and you're
clearing out the loft and you

1522
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,240
find your old rapport, the only
thing you're going to care about

1523
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,520
is just how you were as a.
Person Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

1524
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,440
true because I've done that.
I've looked at my old reports

1525
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,120
and I just want to see what my
teachers wrote about me.

1526
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,760
I just, I don't care if I was
good.

1527
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,360
Like in fact, I can look at the
attainment box.

1528
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,560
I got an A in this and an effort
of 2.

1529
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,400
Brilliant.
That's good to know.

1530
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,920
I really don't care though,
because there's nothing to do

1531
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,840
with me right now.
But was I funny then?

1532
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,560
Did I make someone laugh?
I love.

1533
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,040
Did I have a podcast?
You've over the report.

1534
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,320
Was I funny?
Yeah.

1535
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,280
Was I funny?
Did the teacher think I had

1536
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,280
extreme banter?
Did they write that in my

1537
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,720
report?
No, they didn't.

1538
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:36,920
In the 90s, nothing like that.
Yeah.

1539
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,080
So next time you sat there and
you're you've given out a form

1540
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,960
to the kids to harvest data of
what clubs they went to so you

1541
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,080
can write down what clubs they
did in their report.

1542
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,280
Just think to yourself, is that
a good use of my time?

1543
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,280
Do the parents know it?
Do the parents the ones that

1544
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,440
pick them up from the club and
signed up for it?

1545
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,320
Do they know that their kid went
to it and little?

1546
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,880
Derek enjoyed football club this
year.

1547
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,000
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, yeah, I signed him up for

1548
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,160
it.
Yeah, and I picked him up every.

1549
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,960
Single time and I took him to
the game and I watched the game.

1550
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,680
Yeah, yeah.
And you weren't there actually

1551
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:04,960
funny enough.
So how do you know that?

1552
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,760
Yeah.
Oh, I well, I asked Robert to

1553
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,840
tell me.
All right, so your report is

1554
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,480
what your kid said about
something that me and my kid

1555
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,080
did.
Yeah.

1556
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,400
Yeah, he told me at the time.
Also, S fish fingers were there

1557
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,360
quite a lot, didn't he?
Yeah.

1558
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,400
He told me you cooked it for
him.

1559
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:17,280
OK.
Yeah.

1560
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,960
Just think.
Just think about what parents

1561
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,360
actually want to.
Hear they do get funny though.

1562
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,480
I completely Oh man OK next one
I want to talk about.

1563
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,360
We'll skip past it a little bit.
I think you're trying to move on

1564
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,520
here, Dylan, but I want to talk
about it.

1565
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,440
Behaviour.
I want to give a little tip here

1566
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,800
on behaviour because I know
we're running out of time.

1567
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,400
So let's not talk too much about
it, but just just be aware,

1568
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,400
especially if you're newer to
teaching, that behaviour does

1569
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,800
tend to get worse.
It does tend to get a little bit

1570
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,440
worse in the summer term, in the
summer term.

1571
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,560
OK.
And there's a few reasons for

1572
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:41,560
that.
They're more comfortable with

1573
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,840
you, You know, maybe it's very
natural.

1574
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,800
Your expectations have slipped
slightly because you've become

1575
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,560
more comfortable and familiar
with them as well.

1576
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,200
It's very, very normal.
And they're leaving your class

1577
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,000
soon, right?
Like kids know that, especially

1578
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,640
when you're 6, they're leaving
the school soon.

1579
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,120
They they really know that once
they're done transition, then

1580
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,720
they come back.
They're like, hey, we are not

1581
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,640
going to be here much longer.
And quite often they're not

1582
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,160
doing English and maths and
stuff, are they?

1583
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,880
Exactly.
It's all chaotic and it's very

1584
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,720
tempting as a teacher to let
your expectations drop a bit,

1585
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,000
but you go, OK, little things
have changed.

1586
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,080
I'm going to let my behaviour
expectations just drop a little

1587
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,360
bit because we're near the end
of the year now.

1588
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,560
They're going to be gone soon
anyway.

1589
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,720
Who cares?
I'll just let it drop.

1590
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,240
My tip is don't do that.
Don't do that.

1591
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,000
Keep your expectations really
high and really clear.

1592
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,360
Reaffirm them more than ever.
I'm constantly saying to my kids

1593
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,920
at the end of the year, like
guys, you're still here though,

1594
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,560
aren't you?
And we've like, you don't need

1595
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,360
to them suddenly be
disrespectful and we leave on.

1596
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,960
We have a horrible relationship
in the last week.

1597
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,480
Like, why would you do that?
We've built this lovely

1598
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,200
relationship.
Why would you then start being

1599
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:33,520
rude?
Let's just end this on a high,

1600
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,600
you know, and I'll say that more
than ever at the end of the

1601
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,160
year, you got to keep this
expectations up.

1602
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,680
And do you know who who does
care?

1603
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,360
You, the teacher who's having to
deal with his behaviours.

1604
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:42,880
Yeah.
So when you when you pick up,

1605
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,280
who cares?
Let him go.

1606
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,560
No, you're the one dealing here.
Yeah, it's worse for you.

1607
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,280
Ruining your day if you don't.
Yeah, exactly.

1608
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,200
So that's just my quick one
there.

1609
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,960
And keep them moving as well.
Summer restlessness is a real

1610
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,720
thing.
Seriously, I don't know what it

1611
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,560
is.
I do know what it is.

1612
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,280
It's the summer.
So I don't know what it is about

1613
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,280
summer restlessness, just.
About summer, I just don't know.

1614
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,240
But it's real.
Like you probably are gonna have

1615
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,960
to get him moving more and and
realistically get him outside.

1616
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:07,840
Play it.
Play it.

1617
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,680
Woo.
Play the little jiggle.

1618
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,400
There it is.
I've been waiting this whole

1619
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,760
entire right.
OK, anyone who's thinking why is

1620
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:16,960
a Jingle just played?
Yeah.

1621
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,640
I knew when we were doing
something about summertime and

1622
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,640
how to survive it.
I knew because you've said it 58

1623
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,800
times before that some at some
point going out your mouth for

1624
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,000
me.
Get him outside.

1625
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,760
It's true.
Come outside in the side.

1626
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,240
Yeah, because it's true.
Dylan, get him outside.

1627
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,480
It's nice.
Plan a lesson out there, get him

1628
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,920
on the field, or just finish a
lesson early and go outside for

1629
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:37,720
10 minutes.
Oh my gosh.

1630
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,880
Absolutely crap, man.
Thanks for that.

1631
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,840
You've ruined me.
Right.

1632
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,360
I'm sorry.
Not predictable.

1633
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,000
OK, here we go.
Last few.

1634
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,320
We're going to whiz through
these.

1635
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,120
OK, go on then.
So this is linked to an

1636
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,800
assessment we just said before.
We are very close to the end of

1637
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,240
the year.
You're not going to move the

1638
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,320
needle much.
Do not feel like you need to put

1639
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,400
an extra 15 hours into planning
for these really intricate

1640
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,720
interventions that the children
won't know what what they're

1641
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,840
doing otherwise for.
The last two weeks before.

1642
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,200
The test, yeah, Listen, don't
worry about it.

1643
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,200
Just fill gaps the best you can
and just teach the curriculum

1644
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,600
because you still have some
curriculum left.

1645
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:09,600
Simple.
Simple as that.

1646
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,760
OK, Don't worry too much about
that.

1647
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,960
Next one.
Make the most of your time with

1648
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,280
a class.
This is really important to me.

1649
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,680
I I I this is something that I
think I did naturally even at

1650
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,280
the start of my career.
So you guys might do this

1651
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:27,640
anyway, but don't, don't feel so
shackled by timetables.

1652
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,840
And oh, gosh, what will someone
think of this?

1653
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,600
If you just happen to think one
point, that there's a week left,

1654
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,080
I'm going to play a game with my
kids.

1655
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,400
Yeah.
Who?

1656
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,400
Cares.
Yeah.

1657
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,560
Do you know what?
Someone's coming up, they're

1658
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,280
going to forget half the stuff
you do in the last three days

1659
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,880
anyway.
They're going to 6 minutes off.

1660
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,440
Exactly.
Oh, don't own the week, but what

1661
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,560
if someone walked in?
What if someone walked in?

1662
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,400
Yeah, and they were playing the.
Pirate and they see your

1663
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,200
children loving being at school.
Oh no.

1664
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,040
Yeah, honestly, well, you could
have done this for a bit.

1665
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,360
I've done loads.
I could have done.

1666
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:54,840
I've taught the curriculum.
I'm professional.

1667
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,800
I'm not going to just not teach
them stuff ever.

1668
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,080
But as a professional, I've just
decided actually, I'm just going

1669
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,000
to make the most of the time in
my.

1670
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,520
Class yeah OK it might be nice
to leave the year on a high so

1671
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,920
that they actually want to come
back to school in six weeks time

1672
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,120
don't know just.
Exactly.

1673
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,400
And, and do you know what you
can do, Hayden?

1674
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,040
You take them outside.
You can.

1675
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:10,680
Yeah.
I was like, what?

1676
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,240
Oh, they're long.
No, they're not going off this

1677
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:12,480
time.
You're.

1678
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:13,440
Already there, it's just for you
mate.

1679
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,240
Absolutely.
I agree, Take.

1680
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,600
That's a great point, Dylan.
Take him outside, go and have a

1681
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,480
bit of fun on the field.
I think I just think, yeah,

1682
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,800
look, you're a professional.
This is this is basically what

1683
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,760
this point is.
Yeah, you are a professional.

1684
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,000
Just just remember that.
So next time you're thinking,

1685
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,120
oh, can I do this?
Can I do that?

1686
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,200
Do I have the authority?
The author is yes you do.

1687
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:37,280
You are a professional educator
who understands the curriculum

1688
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,200
you need to deliver and where
the children need to get to.

1689
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,360
And if within this confines
you've gone.

1690
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,680
Do you not be good today if I
just go and do this thing?

1691
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:45,880
You can't do it.
Do you know what you're starting

1692
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,080
to imply here, Dylan?
That children aren't just data

1693
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,200
points and there is a holistic
side for being at a school that

1694
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,640
isn't just learning mouse and
English and history and

1695
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,680
geography and science and that
it's almost as if there's

1696
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,720
another, another element to the
human psyche that we might be

1697
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,600
able to foster in a school.
I don't know.

1698
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,680
But yeah.
But you know, just finish up

1699
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,520
because I think it's a really
nice point and I genuinely,

1700
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,960
really, really agree is that is
this, you know, the kids the

1701
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,440
best you're ever going to know
them at this point.

1702
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,880
Like this is the nicest part of
the year.

1703
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,280
So you've got well formed
relationships with these kids.

1704
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,880
You've had them all year.
Like you're going to have the

1705
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,160
nicest, most personalised,
actual real times of these kids

1706
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,120
if you if you plan them in now,
like an ice breaker on day one

1707
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,880
in September is nothing in
comparison to doing a very

1708
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,240
similar game, maybe even the
same game at the end of the year

1709
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,640
when they all when you all know
each other so well.

1710
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,080
It's lovely.
Enjoy it.

1711
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,640
You've earned it.
They've earned it.

1712
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,120
It's a great time of year and.
That works for education too.

1713
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,320
That works for teaching.
I feel like I get so much more

1714
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,040
across to my children now
because of that relationship

1715
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,680
where I can build up that time
to then have some nice time with

1716
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,160
them and play some games in
midsile.

1717
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,320
Well that was 9 tips.
Yeah, I feel like we need a

1718
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,280
10th.
We do need a 10th.

1719
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,400
This is this is depending on
your outlook.

1720
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,680
I mean, it's the most important
one.

1721
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,480
OK, top hit.
OK, right now start getting your

1722
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,240
little hints to the children
about what chocolate you like.

1723
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,120
Yeah.
Hey kids, Mr. Price had 78 Creme

1724
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,120
eggs.
That's so funny because I do

1725
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,760
love Creme eggs, Specifically
78.

1726
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,440
Specifically 70. 8 Maybe don't
put into a chat about how much

1727
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,480
gin you like straight.
Maybe don't put that into.

1728
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,880
A question when they ask you
what chocolate is like.

1729
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,960
I like the gin filled chocolate.
You know those ones with like

1730
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,640
alcohol in them get me them.
Probably not the best thing.

1731
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,840
To say, yeah, but but, you know,
just get them hints out to

1732
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,560
Paris, OK?
Yeah, that was a joke.

1733
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,560
All right, Of course.
OK, So anyone who's got this, I

1734
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,880
can imagine and anyone who's got
this far surely understands that

1735
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,480
was a joke.
Yeah, this far in general with

1736
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,880
that Nice to be honest with you,
not even just this episode.

1737
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,440
If you have got this far, can
you just like message us to say

1738
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,400
is your name Honestly, go to our
Instagram, prove it.

1739
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,600
Because I, yeah, we see it Like,
I mean, fair play to you've seen

1740
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,400
through that.
Fair play.

1741
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,240
Let us know if any of the tips
are useful.

1742
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,760
To guys, give us a review on
Instagram, it's the most

1743
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:46,680
important thing.
Actually don't.

1744
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,520
There's no.
On Instagram I don't want I

1745
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,600
don't want to review on
Instagram.

1746
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,800
Ignore this guy.
A review on Spotify please,

1747
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,360
Which?
I Apple podcast, Thank you.

1748
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:54,920
I'll see you next time.