Ep 165: Our Big Predictions For Education In 2026!

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Hello everyone, and welcome back
to another episode of Teach

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Steep Repeat.
My name is Dylan and my name's

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Hayden, and it's the first
question and answer of the year.

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I'm gonna change the order
already despite only changing it

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the other week.
Don't tell them.

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Oh no, it's definitely a
Wednesday.

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Why have we done it?
Dylan, come on.

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There's a reason.
To it, because hopefully you've

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already listened to Monday's
episode, which is all about new

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year, new me, new flow, new.
Yeah.

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New go.
Yeah, that's yeah.

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Let's go straight into the One,
shall we?

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Do you read the first one?
Of the new year, go on.

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Then we've had this one came
from many, many people.

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Lots of submissions here because
people join WhatsApp community

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and obviously they submit that
question down below.

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All that's good stuff.
Have you got any New Year's

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resolutions this year?
New Wow.

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I watched something over the
festive period.

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The wheel was on on Christmas.
It was on Christmas Day,

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actually.
And one of the questions was

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about New Year's resolutions.
And it said which age group is

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most likely to make a New Year's
resolution.

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And it was 18 to 24.
Yeah, 25 to 35, I think

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something like that, or maybe
even 39.

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Not that 140 to 55, not that one
or 56 and above. 56 and above.

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So I thought that surely, yeah,
I thought, surely it's the

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people.
But then they had the of.

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When you get to that age, you're
done.

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I'm not changing.
I've done my bit.

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I'm not going to change now.
I will resolve nothing.

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Exactly that.
It was like, if I haven't

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changed it already at this age,
there's no point in me

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pretending it's such a good
point.

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You've got 30 failed New Year's
resolutions before.

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I feel like it's older people
that are do that, sort of like,

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oh, it's nice, isn't it, to do
that.

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It's always, you know, your
parents are aware.

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So what would you say the
answers?

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Well, I'm presuming it's flipped
then, is it?

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It was the youngest.
One, it was the youngest 118 to

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24.
But I thought to myself, I

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remember being 18 and thinking,
let's do a New Year's resolution

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because I hadn't really like,
it's new and it's fresh.

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Yeah.
Maybe that's it.

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They're more likely to cringe
yet.

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Well, I don't know, a bit
cringe.

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Is it sometimes when you're 18,
though?

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Yeah, yeah.
It's brand new, like you said.

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But.
And then I thought it would be

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our age group.
But again, they were just like,

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the older you get, I think the
more people are just like.

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I'm in my ways.
I'm not going to do anything

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right now.
So you're not set 1 then.

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I haven't set one this year, but
I do like the, it seems to be a

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bit of a trend in recent years
that instead of doing a

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resolution, which is like a hard
and fast, like let's say for

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example, it's to do reading and
you say in 2026 I'm going to

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read 100 books instead of doing
that because it's like pass or

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fail.
And it can be quite like you can

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get a bit of anxiety around
like, oh, I'm a failure.

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If I read 98 books, I'm a
failure realistically.

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Even though that's good.
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So like what people do now is
they have a word for the year or

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like, you know, it could be like
being present could be like a

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phrase.
Oh, OK.

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So my, my, maybe my New Year's
resolution this year is to be

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more present, so that even if
you only do it a bit more,

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you're still following your
resolution.

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So rather than something like,
because I imagine the opposite

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to that is I'm not going to go
on Instagram anymore.

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Exactly.
I'm not going to use my phone in

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between these times.
It's just be more present

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because then it's harder to
fail.

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You can just do it.
And you can just do it and then

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you can go as far as you want
and still feel like you're being

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successful.
And I don't know.

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So I like those.
I like those trends of like

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ideas for the new year.
So for example, like I'd like to

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read more.
I've been reading more already.

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So I want to carry on doing
that.

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And I think being present, the
reason I said it is because I

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think that's something I need to
do a bit more as well,

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especially like being on social
media with like the podcasts and

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stuff.
All these bits I found over the

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festive period, like posting
less and being on it less.

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I've done other stuff more that
I've enjoyed, like being more

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present.
Like in Christmas, you're more

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president with family in
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It's been quite nice to not
like, just be checking up my

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phone every night.
And then, well, you said I was

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around yours the other day and
you literally were shocked

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because remember, you went on
your settings and showed me how

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many times you'd unlocked your
phone on certain days and, and

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it was crazy and I looked as
well.

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And you don't realise?
Well, maybe you do, but.

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It's it's like hundreds,
hundreds in times.

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I think in one day I'd unlocked
my phone like 120 times.

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Mad.
That's surely that's like,

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that's addiction, isn't it?
You think so?

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It's crazy.
It's mental.

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Yeah, it's crazy, but yeah.
And, and to think how often that

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is without you thinking, Yeah.
So yeah, I've definitely got a

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problem with that.
I think personally like there,

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there's definitely less I could
do, but still maintain like

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because at the end of the day we
are creating.

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Stuff, yeah, that's the hard
thing, isn't it?

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I always feel bad.
It's because like, you know, I

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only like joke about it, but you
do do all of the social media

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stuff.
And I feel bad because like, for

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me, I'm sort of like, oh, do you
know what?

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Maybe I'm gonna try and detox
and go off my phone for a week.

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And then I think Dylan literally
can't know if we want our

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content to be put out there.
And I feel.

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But there is a difference, like
there is genuinely a difference

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between when I'm when I'm doing
it and I'm posting stuff right

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or replying to comments or
whatever it might be.

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But then I do sit and doom
scroll, yeah, Like I do then sit

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and do scroll on reels for like
probably, probably 15 minutes,

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which might not sound quite
much, but 50 minutes in a row of

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me just mindlessly scrolling,
It's just.

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Exclusively for our reels
getting the views up.

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Get them views up somehow.
So yeah, that's my New Year's

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resolution is be more aware of
that spend and it'll just be

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simply I'd be more present and
then that could be a number of

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ways I.
Think that's actually quite nice

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and although it sounds a bit
cringe, like I'll be more

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present, it's actually a good
that's a good news.

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I've got one on the same sort of
line of thinking then, which is

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I was trying to think what's my
gut reaction because yours was

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that because I know that because
I think you even mentioned a

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day.
Like on and off for a while.

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Yeah.
You always sort of like hint

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towards like the idea that you
want to be doing that be more

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present off your phone and
stuff.

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Mine is to enjoy the moment a
bit more.

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No, I know it's not my present.
So I'm, I'm present.

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I'm.
Just not liking it.

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No.
No.

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Yeah, but that sounds awful.
I hate being present.

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I've done your thing, but now I
want to love.

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No, sorry, let me rephrase it.
I want more presents.

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I meant I want more presents.
I need you to buy me.

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More, more presents.
I'm being horrible because I

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know what you mean.
Go on.

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No, like enjoying the moment.
I just, I just find like I'm so

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bad at this and you know, I am
because you've worked with me

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for years at just getting myself
in a rut.

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I can't just enjoy a bit of time
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I have to be thinking, oh, if we
have what I've got to do this,

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I've got to do this thing in two
weeks.

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I've got to get cracking on with
this thing later.

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Like I'm always thinking about
the next thing and, and I'll

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make that ruin my moment.
Do you know what I mean?

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It's just so stupid.
Sometimes I'm just having an

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objectively lovely day with my
family or whatever, and I'm sat

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there thinking about something I
don't need to be thinking about

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rather than just enjoying what
I'm doing.

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So I'm going to try actively
this year to enjoy the moment a

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bit more and just stop thinking
about things that make me not

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feel good.
That's a really good one for you

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because you are so bad at that,
like genuinely.

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And I think that's, I think it
is important because your, your

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mindset, you're right.
Because people always say this.

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If you just stop and look like
if anyone now listening as well

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just thinks if they just look
back at like go back even like 2

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years or three years, or for me,
I'm going to I'm going to go

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back to the start of my teaching
career.

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And when we maybe started
thinking about doing a bit of

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tutoring or something.
Or you go back in time to the

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point where we started this
podcast, right.

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Or you go back in time to any
point and then you like were to

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show yourself where we are right
now.

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I think we'd we'd be like,
that's unbelievable.

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Yeah.
Like, like what?

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This is ridiculous.
You've got this audience.

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You're you're building your
maths app.

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You've done 10 years of
teaching.

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What, what on earth?
What are you even thinking now?

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The next thing.
Yeah.

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You know that one as well.
Got lovely children.

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I was sticking with the
professional aspect of it, but

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you know, you're, but it's true.
And I think one eye always has

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to be in the future because
that's how you keep growing and

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you keep going onto new things.
But if you're not enjoying where

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you are now, you will never
enjoy where you are at any point

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because there'll always be
something else you can do.

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Definitely.
And yeah, I remember saying to

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you a few times about that, like
if you can't find happiness or

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enjoyment in the moment you are
currently in, then you will.

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Forever be chasing happiness and
enjoyment because it's not a

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thing to get it's like a it's an
outlook.

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It's very true.
It is really true I mean we've

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we've had those conversations
many times over the years.

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I think we both fall victim to
it a bit, don't we?

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Yeah, Chasing, chasing, chasing.
And we'll just just stop, just

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look and enjoy.
Appreciate.

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And not necessarily stop, but
just think.

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I'll still do this in a bit.
Yeah, after the enjoyment.

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I think it's we can all we can
all reflect on.

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I imagine a lot of people
nodding, thinking Yep, exactly

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the same or honestly needing the
next thing or not or not.

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I just think it's just happy
human.

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It's something we all strive to.
Be like gratitude.

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There's there's the other thing
about like when you read about,

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I read about like manifesting
stuff or gratitude or journaling

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or yoga or mindfulness or
breathing.

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For many years, I've said this
before.

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I've always dealt with like
fads, like just nonsense.

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You can't manifest something to
happen.

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Like you can't actually like,
and this is I still think this.

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I can't, I can't sit in this
chair and make something happen

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just by thinking it.
But what?

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But what it does do and the
reason why manifestation works

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and it's a good thing to do
still is because if you sit and

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you, you think about something
becoming real, you also think

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about the path to making it
real.

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And you also think about how to
get there.

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And then you try and do it.
And it might not pay off, but it

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might.
And that idea of manifestation

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actually carving your path
through to what you want is the

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first step to making what you
want to happen.

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You might not call it
manifestation like we've

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manifested our entire career.
We've got a name for it.

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We've done it loads.
Oh yeah.

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We call it planting seeds and
that's.

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That's our one.
We've coined that term.

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No one's ever heard of planting
the seed before, and it works

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because we're putting something
in the ground.

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That's one eventually really
grow.

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I don't know if anyone's out of
it.

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That's our phrase.
We call it planting the seeds.

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Yes, it's obviously a very
famous phrase, but that is

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basically the same as what
you're That is our version of

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manifestation, isn't it?
Because we've done a lot of

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times, we'll joke about
something and then we'll find a

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message from three years before
and we've achieved this crazy

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thing that we joked about one
time.

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We're like, oh, we kind of
accidentally did this thing.

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We planted the seed in our minds
and we just work towards it

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without really thinking about
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Planting the seed now.
We're going to have a mission to

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master a mission planting that
seed.

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Me and you mission to master
planting that seed.

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OK.
And that'll grow?

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That's in there manifesting.
That one can't wait for that.

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Me, you and Elon.
Yeah, right, he did.

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I've I think we should set each
other a New Year's resolution as

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well.
I think that's a good idea

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because you actually, I'll just
give you your credit, you

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actually did a New Year's
resolution last year and

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achieved it.
No, no, this, this was the year

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before was.
It the year before oh.

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My God, it was.
It was going into 2024.

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Right.
Would you like to remind?

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Him boy.
He was two months old.

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Of course, I remember now.
Yeah, You.

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How?
As if that's been two years.

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That's disgusting.
Yeah.

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So you set yourself a goal.
But it's simply I went cold

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Turkey of like I did the classic
thing we said of that eventually

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run that, which was cold Turkey
on sugar.

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I just started like, I'm not
gonna have any sugar.

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And the point was it wasn't just
and like, no, Sugar's bad,

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Sugar's awful.
But like, it was like, if I cut

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sugar out of my diet, then my
diet will be markedly better.

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Yeah.
Because the reason my diet is

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bad is because of sugary stuff.
Yeah.

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And.
And I said to myself, do you

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know what?
No, no, no more.

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No more sugary.
He's drinking a can of Coke for

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those listening, not watching.
I said no sugar like 2 years

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ago.
Yeah.

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And that cold Turkey helped me
in a way at that point because

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then I just knew I couldn't do
it.

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But I knew at some point I come
off the waggon and I did, yeah.

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You did you did really well and
it like losing weight is often a

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good way of measuring it because
people often do it for weight

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loss and things like reasons
like that that done it like you

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said you were doing it to have a
better diet.

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Well, and.
And therefore to lose weight.

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Yeah and and you lost like 2
freestyles.

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Something like that.
But then the 202025 came around

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and I was like, New Year's
resolution, put that right back

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on.
Yeah, put that right back on.

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But it did because it wasn't, it
wasn't sustainable.

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Like it's simple enough to say
don't do this.

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And actually the act of not
having sugar is obviously in

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itself a simple thing to do
because it's the absence of

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doing something like just don't
do that.

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It's like, OK, well obviously I
can do that.

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But if it was that simple,
everyone would do it.

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So it, yeah, I mean it worked
for a bit, but then I stopped

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and I was just come off the
waggon again and I've just gone

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back to like my, my plateau.
So how can we reframe that into

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your new positive mindset of
like setting goals?

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Rather than saying you're,
you're.

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Giving me, that's what I'm
trying to think right now.

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So rather than saying like, oh,
lose 6 stone, which, you know, I

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won't say that I think your goal
should be to eat more healthily.

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Wow.
I'm thinking of all the new ones

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here.
You're really, you know, people

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say you should have podcast
licences.

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I don't think so.
Yeah.

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We'll be hearing this otherwise.
Yeah, we should.

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We should.
We should cut that out as a

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master.
Seed eat more healthily more

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healthily.
Damn these people, I.

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Want you?
Here's actually a good goal for

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you.
I want you to eat fewer crisps.

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It's not sort of sugar, but you
eat an absurd amount of crisps.

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I don't want to do that.
Cool.

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Well.
So.

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That's your New Year's
resolution.

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We'll be breaking that after I
record this podcast.

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Now.
I think in the cardboard, I've

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got 7 different types of crisps
right now.

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I'm going to go into there.
Your one, grow some hair, grow

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some hair back.
If you just manifest it, if you

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just think what's my goal?
What's my path towards getting

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hair again?
I think if you did it hard

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enough.
I'm thinking.

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I'm thinking how long does it
take?

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Just think away male pattern
baldness and it.

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Yeah, it's just gone.
It's just gone.

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It's gone.
Yeah, well, thanks for that.

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Good, good resolutions for us.
Yep.

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To crack on with, should we go
to another question?

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Let's be more present.
Let's just take a minute.

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Oh, right now, if everyone
listening, just be more present.

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Close your eyes.
Unless you're driving to work,

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don't close your eyes.
Breathe with us.

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Make sure you tell SLT that you
don't want to be observed today.

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Are the mics picking up this
whispering?

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I think they will be.
OK, why in that case?

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Make sure you keep your eyes
open if you're driving.

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You just want to reiterate that
and don't forget when you stop

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driving to follow and share the
podcast with someone who you

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think might have had it useful.
Yes, and be more present.

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Be more present and click like
and subscribe.

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I can't wait to find out this
bit didn't work.

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It's just silent for this whole.
Why should we do the next one?

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Next question after you come on
over to you.

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OK this is from Nostradamus.
Hello teach T repeat.

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It's me famous predictor
Nostradamus.

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I was wondering if you could
each share 3 predictions for

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education in 2026.
What might we see?

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That's a good question.
This is a really good question

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and it's something we have put
together right now.

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So we don't know each other's
answers.

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No, we have made three genuine
predictions.

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If you do 1 each like tennis.
Yeah.

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And if you, if we say 1, the
other persons have, we'll just

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tick them off.
Yeah, apparently.

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But then you start us off.
I'll start.

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I think Ofsted are going to be
absolutely slated and driven

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into the ground this year.
Do you think?

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I really do.
I think they are.

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I think because of what the
reforms have happened.

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And however, it's already, oh,
it's not really that much change

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and it's starting to come into
place now.

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I speak to someone the other day
who was like, we're going to get

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Ofsted as soon and we'll be the
first in our district with the

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new framework.
I think it's going to happen.

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There's going to be no
meaningful change or positive

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change.
People are going to get just as

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stressed and they're going to
get absolutely slated, hammered

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to the ground.
That's what I think is going.

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To happen really, I say that's
fantastic.

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I didn't pay anything about
Ofsted, but I think that's a

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really good prediction.
Because I don't think they can

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get away with it twice.
No, I, I think that what

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happened before was awful with
Ruth Perry and everything and

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that that's kind of the trigger
to all this change and reform.

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I think after the reform, which
isn't a reform has happened, I

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think it's just going to happen
again.

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Horrible things are going to
happen.

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Pit schools are going to
struggle.

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Everyone's going to get
stressed.

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And then that this time is going
to be like, gave you a chance to

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change everything you didn't.
We're disbanding you maybe?

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Who's the Wii?
This is the problem.

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Me, in that case, the
government.

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Let's plant the seed.
Yeah, genuinely, I think, I

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think like label, label on a win
round teachers again.

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Yeah, but yeah, but, but let's
go for the rest of predictions,

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shall we?
Because I mean, I'm not sure

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like how a lot of it was lip
service like I don't, I think, I

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don't think that will happen.
I think there'll be a huge

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backlash.
I mean, that's a really good

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prediction.
I can't see anything happening.

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They're not going to get rid of
of Ofsted.

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What?
Are they going to do?

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I don't.
Know honestly it's too much of a

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huge change for them to be brave
enough to do it won't happen I

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don't think but I think what you
said is absolutely right.

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A bunch of people do, you know,
you could like volunteer your

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school to have like the early
one And some people did.

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I don't think there was loads of
uptake, but some people did just

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think, OK, let's just go out the
way with you're learning, you're

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learning.
Hopefully it's better just to do

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it early.
And from what I've read and

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seen, like the vast majority of
people have said, it is no

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better.
And if anything, it's worse

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really.
Yeah, from what from what I've

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seen from people who've
literally gone through at the

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early.
Stage and we have to trust that

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like because ultimately I sat
here on the podcast and I

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assessed it and I still do think
when I look at it on paper, I

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was like, it's marginally
better, but that was my overall

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thought.
I was like, it's not really that

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different, but it's a little
bit.

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Better So I really struggled
with this because again, we

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don't go back and listen to the
whole podcast episodes we've

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done about the reforms and stuff
they exist already.

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But my overall crouching opinion
of that was again, it was like,

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OK, let's see how it's
implemented.

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I'm not sure, but I thought it
was a change more for the

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parents of the world, more for
the government potentially or

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like Ofsted or do just from from
their point of view is bigger

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changes thinking about what's
better for parents, right.

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And I don't think many of the
changes that were introduced

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were what's better for the
schools or better for the

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teachers, because I think it was
very easy for them to fall into

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like, well, we're Ofsted, we're
here to judge you like what do

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you mean make it better for you?
Why would we make it better for

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you and I?
I'm remain completely convinced

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that the reforms and changes
that have happened have any

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bearing whatsoever and it being
more more like of a well-being

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like help for.
Well, that's what people are

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saying as well.
Then who are we to argue?

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You know what?
I mean, I think that's a really

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good prediction.
So here's my first one.

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I think teachers will vote to
strike again this year.

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Oh, I think, yeah, I think they
will vote.

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What made you think that like?
Because, because I think because

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you see what's happening with
the doctors currently, and the

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doctors got huge pay rises,
right?

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And they're striking again for
restoration and getting back to

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where they were.
And they're a vital part of the

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economy.
And I think doctors should be

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paid a very good wage.
I think doctors on average

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should definitely earn more than
teachers.

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But it's just not even a
question in my head.

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It's like, yes, of course you
are vital.

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Yeah.
And I think they, they they want

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their way back to restor
restoration for their pay

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previously.
So they want high pay rises.

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And I think that's good.
Yeah.

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And the government are standing
really firm and saying, like,

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no, we've already given you
however many percent.

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It was between 20 and 30% was a
big pay rise.

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But I think that the doctors are
right to demand that.

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And in terms of their own, they
are only ever saying we want

455
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,880
restoration, like they're only
ever saying we want the same

456
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,880
buying powers my colleagues had
2015 years ago.

457
00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,640
Yeah, some people say it's
unrealistic.

458
00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,880
Fine, whatever that great.
Good for you.

459
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,880
These this school of people who
we trust with our lives are

460
00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,160
saying that they need more money
for same reasons we say it for

461
00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,880
education.
Do you know when we say it and

462
00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,920
we're like it's for recruitment,
it's for retention, it's for,

463
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,600
you know, putting professional
pedestal, It's for the, it's for

464
00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,000
the.
Kids.

465
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,400
Yeah, ultimately, old feeding to
the kids, all feeding to the.

466
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,240
Kids, I completely and utterly
trust doctors when when they

467
00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,240
themselves spent how much money
becoming a doctor spent, how

468
00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,280
many years qualifying to become
a doctor and probably years in

469
00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,960
the profession after that are at
the point of saying no, I'm

470
00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,400
going on strike.
There's only one reason that

471
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,960
they're doing that, and it's
because they see that it's

472
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,840
really important that this
happens.

473
00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,040
So even as someone outside,
maybe I don't understand the

474
00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,960
intricacies of everything, but
if that high percentage of

475
00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,160
doctors are voting to go on
strike, my my instinct there is

476
00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:19,880
to go.
Do you know what?

477
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,360
Yeah.
I trust you.

478
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,200
You're the doctors.
You're the people saying this.

479
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,080
Thousands of intelligent people
collecting together to say the

480
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,520
same.
I probably should listen.

481
00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,920
Probably, probably, probably
what you're saying is probably

482
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,000
right and I'm willing to just
accept that and go, well, you're

483
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,360
the I trust you with my life if
it happened.

484
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,360
So I do trust you on this as
well, actually.

485
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,760
So what I'm kind of circling all
around background to is I think

486
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,240
the same thing will happen to
teachers.

487
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,600
I hope anyway is that that we
have the appetite to be like,

488
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,160
stop taking us from Mike's
piece.

489
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,760
Stop doing this.
We are professionals.

490
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,480
We understand this system.
We see it crumbling around our

491
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,520
eyes for years and years.
We are full of the best people,

492
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,880
amazing people that work and
education are propping this up.

493
00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,280
And we're saying, no, it's
wrong.

494
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,960
You need to pay us correctly and
you need to fund it correctly.

495
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,200
And these two prongs, I'm hoping
and I think what will happen is

496
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,640
we'll have the backbone to say
no, we need to have at least

497
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,840
fully funded pay rises and we
need pay rises to be at least

498
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,160
close to where it should be in
terms of just keeping our

499
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,680
professional a pedestal.
And I think my prediction is, I

500
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,000
don't think it'll be as obvious
as last time, but I do think

501
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,480
that teachers will vote to
strike this year.

502
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,920
That's interesting.
That's a bold one.

503
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,040
I'm not sure if that happened or
not.

504
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,320
I'll be see to see.
I can understand why by the way,

505
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,160
cuz a lot of people I speak to
about teaching and saying I

506
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,080
would love to vote to go and
strike but I can't lose the

507
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,600
money no and it becomes that
like catch.

508
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,720
I also think people would just
think it was too recent.

509
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,960
Yeah, you said shrunk.
Yeah.

510
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,160
Do you know what?
The doctors did it recently as

511
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,920
well.
But teachers are inherently

512
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,880
those kind of people that are
like, don't feel bad about it

513
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,480
so.
Doctors, doctors wanna help

514
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,160
people, their service.
And what I just think is that

515
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,760
hopefully we see that and I just
think you need to have a

516
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,600
backbone else you will be taken
advantage of.

517
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,880
And I said this a million times,
you said.

518
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,280
But it doesn't quite have to be
an inflation or it can just be

519
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,600
close or like a do we need to
take what we get?

520
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,600
And it's what people think of
the profession is really

521
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,400
important.
I don't disagree with all that

522
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,600
still, and you had a really
compelling argument, but I just

523
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,120
fundamentally can't get over the
fact that if you give an inch,

524
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,960
they will take a mile.
And they've done that for 15

525
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,560
years.
And I just think like we maybe

526
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,160
it's a prediction in hope as
well.

527
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,800
And I only want teachers to
strike, by the way, if it's

528
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,720
unacceptable, because what I
think what I do worry might

529
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,200
happen again, this is like a
side prediction.

530
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,920
If that doesn't happen, what I
worry will happen is most

531
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,320
teachers do think it's
unacceptable and wrong, but

532
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,960
don't strike because of this
reason or that reason or this

533
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,160
reason.
I don't want everyone to think

534
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,680
teachers are bad.
Oh, I'm OK because my my partner

535
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,480
earns good money as well.
So I just won't strike because

536
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,080
that's fine.
I can't afford to because I've

537
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,880
got a family to feed and I'll
lose hundreds of pounds going on

538
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,080
strike.
Or that my worry is all of those

539
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,960
reasons to not strike, which are
fine if everyone's entitled to

540
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,400
their own opinion add up to
enough for the overall.

541
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,120
Yeah, yeah.
To not get through.

542
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,320
Yeah, Yeah.
So that's all I worry about.

543
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,800
And I, I think I'm, I'm, I think
that's what happened.

544
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,200
You worry that all the people
that are wrong.

545
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840
No, I don't like saying that
they're wrong, but what I mean

546
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,640
is because they they think
striking is the right thing to

547
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,760
do, but for whatever reason they
can't afford to or they don't

548
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,600
want to.
Yeah, I'm just worried that

549
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,240
edges it over to like, oh, not
enough people vote to do nothing

550
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,320
happens, and then nothing
happens even though it most

551
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,520
teachers think it should.
Interesting one, I like it.

552
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,760
Good prediction.
Do you want my second one?

553
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,200
Yep, I think there will be some
sort of smartphone.

554
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,360
I know the smartphone ban in
primary.

555
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,760
There should be already.
I think it will come after the

556
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,120
social media.
What about secondary?

557
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000
I don't know.
I think I don't think that will

558
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,200
happen yet.
I think it will start in

559
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,920
primary.
Maybe not.

560
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,560
So when you say ban, do you mean
during the hours of the day?

561
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,920
But they can take it in and drop
it off?

562
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,920
Yeah, something just mean like
because in secondary I can see

563
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,840
it happen in secondary as well.
Yeah, yeah, potentially I was.

564
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,920
I was trying to be more
realistic.

565
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,800
I was like maybe both but I can
imagine it made me being rolled

566
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,920
out in one just to test it for
a.

567
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,840
Bit not in many primary schools
that currently don't have that

568
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,600
rule.
A lot, a lot of primary schools

569
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,680
just don't really, they just
make up something for their

570
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,800
school.
It's not like a top down

571
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,040
approach or like a council rule.
I I think there's going to be

572
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,240
something topped out.
OK of like this is now like

573
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,800
legislation.
This is everyone.

574
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,080
Schools have to now have a
policy that doesn't allow the

575
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,120
phones in the school between
this on this out because some

576
00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:15,600
schools are.
You mean in the classroom?

577
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,680
In the yeah, sorry, but in the
school in general, really.

578
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,440
So this is really important.
There is a difference between

579
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,000
saying to someone you're not
allowed your phone on the way to

580
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,280
and back from school, which is
what you'd be saying it's not in

581
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,960
school at all.
Whereas if you're saying not in

582
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,320
the classroom, it can be
obviously the phone is in the

583
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,200
school, but it's in a locker or
it's in the office, so.

584
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,800
To clarify, I mean not in the
classroom, but also not

585
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,880
available to the people at
playtime, at lunchtime to to

586
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,720
them it's not in the school
because it's been left but.

587
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,000
The phone is in the school,
yeah.

588
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,080
It's the office of like at the
outskirts of the school,

589
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,680
somewhere they can get it at the
end of the day.

590
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,640
Yeah, that kind of thing.
Yeah.

591
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,280
But I just, I don't know, I feel
like after what was it?

592
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,920
Australia had the.
Social media, Well, that's the

593
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,600
social media.
Yeah, but I think that might, I

594
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,520
think that I can imagine the
trickle down effect for that is

595
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,040
OK, not social media, but maybe
in maybe in primary school,

596
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,360
that's an easy place to start.
We can just stop having phones

597
00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,080
in there because they just
'cause they just cause trouble.

598
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,640
And kids using social media in
primary school.

599
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,560
Do you think that's do you think
I don't think the primary

600
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,000
schools do that now, like I
don't think there are primary

601
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,280
schools where kids can have
access to their phones during

602
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,160
the day, but I think that's a
very much.

603
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,920
Intentionally, no.
I think there are schools that

604
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,680
just don't have very good
policies, do you think?

605
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,280
Yeah, yeah, every time.
Everything I've heard, I've

606
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,360
heard from my own experiences.
Yeah, I've, I've, I've had,

607
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800
there have been kids who have
managed to get their phone in

608
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,320
the day where it's like, but
there's just not a strong enough

609
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,040
policy.
And I know other schools where

610
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,440
kids have just their phones are
just in a cupboard in their

611
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,720
teacher.
Because that would just happen

612
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,160
anyway.
Or maybe, but I just need to

613
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,840
lock down.
It's like if there was a proper

614
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,920
top down policy that was like,
you're going to be held

615
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,280
accountable for actually having
a good policy in place.

616
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,480
Sure, I don't want to come into
a school.

617
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,000
It's the same way like
safeguarding, right?

618
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,320
You can't just have some schools
with some wishy washy,

619
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,000
completely crap safeguarding
policy.

620
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,000
It's like, Oh yeah, the kids
slip through the net here all

621
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,640
the time.
Same with phones.

622
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,040
You can't just have a school
where it's like, Oh yeah, we

623
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,520
just tend to put in their bags.
Sometimes the silly ones go into

624
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,120
there at break time and the
teacher's not looking and make a

625
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:58,040
TikTok.
No, that can't happen at all,

626
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,720
full stop.
Like it literally you will be

627
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,400
held accountable as a
safeguarding issue if that

628
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:01,880
happens.
Do.

629
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,960
You think that's a good thing as
well?

630
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,120
Do you want this to happen?
Yeah.

631
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,840
Yeah, I want it to happen.
I think I want it to happen

632
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,480
across school when you're not an
adult.

633
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,200
I want the social media ban.
I I think that the Australia

634
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:14,280
thing, I think that's great, but
I think this is a smaller

635
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,840
stepping stone.
OK, let's just let's just take

636
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,720
away the the device during
school time.

637
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,680
It's a prediction I hope happens
as well.

638
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,600
Not all of mines are necessarily
ones I hope happen, but I do

639
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,160
hope that one happens.
Yeah, yeah, interesting.

640
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,120
It's kind of interesting.
Yeah.

641
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,800
I think I very much went down
the route of like, oh, what do I

642
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,280
hope Will.
Happen.

643
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,640
Yeah.
OK, All right, well, here's my

644
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,120
second one.
AI use will widen in both good

645
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,960
and bad ways.
In school.

646
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,880
So there's your example of yeah,
not necessarily hope, not

647
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,040
necessarily.
A good thing, but not also a bad

648
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,240
thing.
So my big thing with AI is that

649
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,560
it will it.
Here's the thing with AI in

650
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,760
general, right?
In five years time, it doesn't

651
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,280
matter if you like it or not.
It doesn't matter if you think

652
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,280
it's good or bad.
It doesn't matter if you think

653
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,840
it's bad for the environment or
good not.

654
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,080
None of that matters because it
will be ingrained in absolutely

655
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,160
everything you do already.
When you search Google, what

656
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,840
comes up at the top now is an AI
summary.

657
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,920
Yeah, it's not even any longer
like the advert used to get

658
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,040
where Junior used to teach kids
to be.

659
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,000
Like look out for the adverts at
the top.

660
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,040
And then it says sponsored.
And then the real search is

661
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,360
below.
And then you can go from there

662
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:15,120
and whatever it's like, it's
just an AI thing straight away

663
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,600
at the top, which you don't even
necessarily know is definitely

664
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,640
true because the sources, it's
not a hyperlink to the source,

665
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840
for example.
Yeah, just layers and layers and

666
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,200
layers.
My point is that it's being

667
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,440
embedded in absolutely
everything you do.

668
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,600
You buy phones down, it's got an
AI system built in.

669
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,040
It will be completely ingrained
in absolutely everything.

670
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,920
So my thought for education this
year will be that I think more

671
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,200
and more adults will become, you
know, proficient with AI.

672
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:41,600
They'll more and more adults
will understand what they can do

673
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,040
to help themselves.
I think more teachers than ever

674
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,200
will be using it for their
reports.

675
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000
Like, for example, more teachers
than ever will be using it to

676
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,920
write, you know, emails to
parents.

677
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,240
Perhaps more teachers than ever
or SRT than ever will be using

678
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,680
it for, you know, whole school
policies to and for editing

679
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,640
things.
And maybe even we'll move

680
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,120
towards, I think everything will
go up like teachers using it for

681
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:04,160
marking in writing.
Every single use of it will go

682
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,560
up and that's kind of my
prediction.

683
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,160
And then in that I'm saying, and
lots of it will be good and lots

684
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,480
of that will be bad.
So the, the good parts will be a

685
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,120
lot of time saving, you know,
writing reports, for example,

686
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,280
save a lot of time and still get
really nice intricate, detailed

687
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,680
personal reports.
However, alongside that on

688
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,640
literally the same thing you're
using AI for, the bad version

689
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,640
will be poorly run schools that
you mentioned earlier who don't

690
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,440
have really solid rules on how
to use AI and GDPR, etcetera.

691
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920
And personal information.
There will be teachers that are

692
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,760
putting ploughing personal
information of children online

693
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,080
into into search engines, sorry
into into large language models

694
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,320
that are learning about that
child and getting that

695
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,320
information and then self
learning and having it stored,

696
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,600
which is clearly a bad.
Thing yeah, it's literally a

697
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,760
breach of.
GPR exactly that and and I think

698
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,800
for many years people have kind
of gone well, Oh, I don't know,

699
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,480
but it's going to help me do my
reports quicker, so I'm just

700
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,120
going to use it.
It's like, no, you can't put in

701
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:04,680
there the full name of a child
and say what their EHCP, you

702
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,480
know, outcome plan is.
You can't you can't do that.

703
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,760
That's a legal document that's
very, you know, private to that

704
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,680
child.
You can't do that.

705
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,680
So I know there are, you know,
lots of AI platforms being built

706
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,040
that kind of are more tailored
to schools now that will have

707
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,640
that kind of built in where you
can do that kind of thing

708
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,000
because, you know, the system
doesn't learn it or it's on the

709
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,600
server for your school, whatever
it might be, right.

710
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,720
There's things coming in for
that.

711
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,160
But if you just go on and log on
and stuff, you can't do that.

712
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:28,920
Yeah.
Yeah.

713
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:32,280
So that, that that's my point.
So overarching AI will improve,

714
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,320
sorry, increase everything.
And even my example, there have

715
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,880
been one thing that we're using
it for.

716
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,720
There's been a mad and I think
that'll be across.

717
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,560
The board, of course.
Yeah, it makes sense.

718
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,960
It makes sense.
AI just yeah, I see so much

719
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,400
online about how big corps were
already just ruining it.

720
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,640
Just ruining what it was
supposed to be.

721
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,040
What this dreamy thing?
Who would have known?

722
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:53,840
Yeah, It's like we know what's
going to happen.

723
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,440
We know what's going to happen.
Here's one to think about.

724
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,840
So the mass platform we're
building, Massey, currently

725
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,920
doesn't use any AI.
There's no AI built into it at

726
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,440
all.
Would you though consider if

727
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,720
there was a problem solution and
later down the line we'll build

728
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,480
out more product features and
things like that where AI is a

729
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,680
good solution, would you use it?
A. 100% Yeah, Right.

730
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,040
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.

731
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,200
This is where I'm just like,
This is why I wanted to make the

732
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,520
point of saying it's both good
and bad.

733
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,320
Because my point here is that I
just think that the people who

734
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,440
are saying we should be avoiding
at all cost always.

735
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,800
And it's terrible morally from
your point of view of thinking

736
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,000
why?
And you might have a really good

737
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,440
argument and it might be, you
know, you might even convince me

738
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,200
eventually that what you're
saying outweighs the goods and

739
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,960
the bads.
My point is like, OK, but Mark

740
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,120
Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos and
everyone are going to use it and

741
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040
become and and seep even more
from everyone because of it.

742
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,840
This is going to happen.
Right, It's happening.

743
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360
It's it's like people that were
anti Internet when Internet came

744
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,880
out, it was like, it's great,
but it's happening though.

745
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,040
It's like you can have, you can
simultaneously have the opinions

746
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,640
and they can be a really valid
opinion and also know

747
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,560
objectively that it's going to
it's going to happen.

748
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,400
And I get.
I get the whole the scale thing.

749
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,160
I understand as well because my
argument is, I always think to

750
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,440
myself, do you think plagiarism
was invented by AI?

751
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,560
Because people's big thing is
like, it's like a plagiarism

752
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,120
machine.
It's like the biggest plagiarism

753
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,240
machine that's out there, True,
which it makes plagiarism much

754
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,960
easier.
True.

755
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Steals artwork from artists,
true.

756
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,720
Bad things.
Very, very bad things, right?

757
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,040
Don't tell me 10 years ago when
you went and did your lesson on

758
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,240
my end, you didn't just go to
Google Images and copy an image

759
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,920
that you didn't have any rights
for and put it on your.

760
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,400
Lesson.
Yeah, that's that's technically

761
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,640
not allowed.
How many schools do you know out

762
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,840
there who take books from
authors, buy one book, upload

763
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,240
PDS of the entire book onto the
thing and print it off for the

764
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,240
kids and there's 32 sheets.
You bought one book, Clearly

765
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,880
illegal.
Clearly illegal.

766
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,400
And you're taking money away
from authors.

767
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,000
Schools have done that for
years, but we're like, Oh well,

768
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,960
person stood there and and
pressed picture and scanned it

769
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,360
in on the photocopier.
And I went to I went to the

770
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,600
photocopier and I copied that
whole chapter for my whole class

771
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,320
of 32 kids.
Well, that's 32 lots of 8 lbs

772
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,720
that you didn't pay the offer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

773
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,440
Every single time you do that
and you do it for every single

774
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,000
one of you.
OK, it's because when I save

775
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,240
money and cut corners, been
doing it for years.

776
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,240
So when AI does this now, it's
like, yeah, sure, you can say

777
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,200
that's bad, but it's just
another version of the

778
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,600
plagiarism that's been happening
forever.

779
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,680
Yeah, I guess so.
I think it's just so heightened,

780
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,720
isn't it?
That's what I meant about the

781
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,440
scale.
Much more.

782
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,520
Yeah, the scale, that's it.
It's so much more extreme in

783
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,480
terms of just ripping off
everything ever completely.

784
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,840
But the fact that it's trained
on, yeah, existing like human

785
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,760
main things, it's just funny.
I, I, I do, I really am

786
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,040
interested in what would happen
to AI in like 20 years when

787
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,960
there's just like where just
human creativity is, is just

788
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,800
dead, but it'll be considerably
less.

789
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,040
I mean, the amount of the
already right now, it's

790
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,000
devastating certain work,
certain fields of work, because

791
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,920
people can just take the cheap
option of just paying ��20 for a

792
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,560
subscription to ChatGPT and
getting the artwork they wanted

793
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,000
to get designed on that.
Instead, they just.

794
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,960
They just do.
That's true, but a lot of people

795
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,920
also would never have got the
artwork in the first place.

796
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,480
A lot of people would have been
like, well, I can't afford to

797
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,600
get this thing done.
Yeah, for ��100.

798
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,080
So I'm just going to get AI to,
to bundle up this thing.

799
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,120
I was plagiarism.
Yeah, at all for I, I'm not

800
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,280
disagreeing with that, But the
other option wasn't that I paid

801
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,520
��100 to the artist.
The other option was that it

802
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,800
didn't exist and I'd paid
nothing.

803
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,560
That's fine, but the middle
still exists.

804
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Of the people that would have
paid it, they didn't, so it's

805
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,240
still a net loss.
For the I agree ones.

806
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,160
That didn't exist.
It was.

807
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600
You know, but my way, all I'm
saying sorry about the scale

808
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,800
very quickly is just you can't
sit in your high horse, right

809
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,960
about caring about, you know,
your creativity, you're artist

810
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,320
and you should always pay them
for everything.

811
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,680
When I know hundreds of teachers
who've literally bought one book

812
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,880
and photocopied it for years and
years and years and years.

813
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,200
They spent ��7 to the author.
The author's missed out on like

814
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,800
a grand.
Yeah.

815
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,160
Who's?
Angry about AI's?

816
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,360
It's like, well, you made that
choice yourself when it was

817
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,840
beneficial for you.
Yeah, and you could get.

818
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,440
Away with it.
So I'm not saying it's good or

819
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,800
bad, by the way.
I'm just putting out there right

820
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,080
now.
I'm not saying that it's not a

821
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,720
plagiarism machine.
I do think it is.

822
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,720
Yeah, of course.
Well, that we spiralled there,

823
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,200
didn't we?
We, we were in the middle

824
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,320
though.
I almost forgot we were doing

825
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,800
free predictions.
Let's move on.

826
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,160
Go on.
So my last one's quite a small

827
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,880
one really.
It was not, not not real, but

828
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,640
it's that the new curriculum, I
think it's going to be in first

829
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,960
draft.
It's in first draft right now.

830
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,360
I don't think it actually comes
out next year.

831
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,320
I think it's 2028.
This year, sorry.

832
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,080
It's 28.
But I do think I have really

833
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,760
good high hopes for this.
I think the first draft and

834
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,720
everything that's going into it,
I think it's actually going to

835
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,560
be fantastic.
I really feel like my prediction

836
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520
is they're going to get as many
actual expert teachers and

837
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,920
professionals and amazing
people's minds on this

838
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,320
curriculum to actually make an
improvement.

839
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,160
Manifesting that and do you
think people will still be

840
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,360
happier with that?
Oh, that's a good prediction,

841
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,200
No.
Yeah.

842
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Because teachers hate change.
These, these guys, we've got to

843
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,440
be introspective sometimes.
Yeah, teachers, famously.

844
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,280
You could have the best change
in the world and we'd find

845
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,560
something wrong with that.
Change we'd pick it apart, but

846
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,680
because.
The writing framework I'm

847
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,880
thinking of, by the way, they
did the new writing framework

848
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,560
that came out in 2025, and it
was all done with like people

849
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,840
picked from the field or like,
yeah, you're an expert in this.

850
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,280
You're an expert in that.
Let's get together, minds

851
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,120
together.
I thought it was quite good what

852
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,840
it said, But immediately after,
and we were probably guilty of

853
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,680
this to an extent, it was like,
well, you didn't pick these

854
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,680
people.
Didn't do it.

855
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Didn't pick me.
I'm an expert and he didn't pick

856
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,400
me.
Everything.

857
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,440
I'm thinking, 'cause I think
this is silly to do, you can,

858
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,200
you actually can't please
everyone all the time.

859
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,120
So I my worry with that is,
yeah, again, I think the

860
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,960
curriculum, I think here's,
here's my solid prediction.

861
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,640
I think it'll be better than the
current curriculum.

862
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,760
Me too.
But I think that there will be a

863
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,160
lot of people complaining about
something.

864
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,160
Yeah, I like that.
That's a good addition to my

865
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,160
prediction.
What's your last one?

866
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,760
My last one is I think there
will be a U-turn from the

867
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,200
government on the roll out of
academies having to follow

868
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160
national pay scales and the
STPC.

869
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,880
D Oh, that's such a good one,
yeah.

870
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,320
What, what made you think that?
Yeah, because I, I think there's

871
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,960
a reason why it happened in the
1st place.

872
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,720
It allows academies and schools
to scrimp and save and not quite

873
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,800
give teachers the same rights
that they used to have and not

874
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,880
quite give them the same
pension, not quite give them the

875
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,400
same amount of pay, not quite
give them the same protection

876
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,040
for their working rights and
their working hours.

877
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,440
And I think that there'll be
enough of a pushback because

878
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,800
there are so many academies now
where people are just like we

879
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,560
can't afford it.
We can't afford to go to the

880
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,520
national pay scales.
Well, we can't do it anymore.

881
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,360
How are we ever going to pay our
middle leadership, which we've

882
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,240
just bloated out and put in
there with people who are just

883
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,840
being pencil pushing for ��80,000
a year?

884
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,080
How can I afford that anymore?
I think there'll be enough

885
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,040
pushback where they'll basically
go to the government and say if

886
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,320
you do this, our Academy will
fall apart and it'll be because

887
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,760
you're doing this, rather than
thinking it's because maybe of

888
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,800
some.
And we have 300 schools in our

889
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,760
Academy, right?
Do you want to see it all crash

890
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,760
and burn?
Exactly.

891
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,639
So I think the government
rollback, the government have

892
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,000
rolled back on so much stuff
from the slightest inkling of a

893
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,480
little bit of a pushback.
They've got no backbone for

894
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,760
ideology whatsoever.
They're just pandering around to

895
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,840
everyone they can possibly
pander to and in doing so,

896
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,239
pleasing no one.
No one's happy with what they're

897
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,440
doing because they've they
should have at least come in and

898
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,560
be like, this is our idea.
This is what we're pushing for.

899
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,560
We're going to nail child
poverty.

900
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,639
Education is our priority and
we're going to sort the health

901
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:39,159
service.
Yeah.

902
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,560
And been like anything else that
we're not doing right.

903
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:43,679
Sorry guys, but we said this is
our ideology.

904
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,600
This is what I first.
Spent five years and we're going

905
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,199
to hammer this and stick to it.
But instead what they did was

906
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:49,920
they came in and said, oh, we're
going to do everything all at

907
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,000
once.
It's all going to be great.

908
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,880
And then we're, we're going to
kind of do this and we're going

909
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,719
to put an inheritance time on,
on inheritance tax on farmers so

910
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,600
that we can make sure we do
that.

911
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Oh, there's lots of angry people
there.

912
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,840
We're not going to do it
anymore.

913
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,320
Or we're going to have a, a, a
cut on, you know, disability

914
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,840
benefits and stuff.
Oh, our backbenchers don't like

915
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,920
that anymore.
We're not going to do that

916
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,600
anymore.
Or we're going to cut winter

917
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,000
fuel allowance pensioners.
We will do that one.

918
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,320
OK, right.
OK.

919
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,520
So, so they're, they're
pandering to everyone.

920
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,800
They've not got an ideological
backbone, shred of dignity, in

921
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,280
my opinion, to actually stick to
their guns and do something that

922
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,680
they really believe in.
There's bits they've done right.

923
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,000
There's someone, oh, we've done
breakfast clubs for kids.

924
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,600
Great.
That's just fantastic.

925
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,680
Now both parents can go and work
10 hour days and still be under

926
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,080
the poverty line.
Brilliant.

927
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,560
Thank you very much.
That's that's excellent.

928
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,880
And I just think this is
something I look at and I think

929
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,680
there'll be enough power from
people who don't want this to

930
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,240
happen for self-interest.
Yeah, that I think it will be

931
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,840
watered down at the very least.
I can't see a a situation where

932
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,920
directed time is like followed.
And if it does happen that it

933
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,360
comes in and it's like, yeah,
all schools now have to follow

934
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,080
the STPCD.
It's it's law.

935
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,560
By the way, we got rid of
directed hours in the STPCDII

936
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,800
think what?
Will happen is something.

937
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,960
Yeah, it will be.
Either they won't have to do it

938
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,840
anymore, or they'll have to do
it, but the actual document

939
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,800
itself for everyone will be
watered down, so something will

940
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,720
happen.
Where these schools don't have

941
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,040
to follow and give the rights to
the teachers, our rights as

942
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,960
teachers will be eroded or
they'll just be AU turn.

943
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,280
Wow, that's a really interesting
one.

944
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,160
I'm, I'm hoping, yeah, we can
look back at some point this

945
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,400
year and be like, hey, maybe you
said this.

946
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,960
Yeah, interesting.
I don't know.

947
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,880
So there are three.
That's a good one.

948
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,960
There's good.
Yeah, quite a long little.

949
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,720
Challenge I really.
Yeah.

950
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,560
It was, yeah, basically turned
into a whole episode.

951
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,280
Yeah.
Thanks very much.

952
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,440
We've got a couple more
questions next one's a quick

953
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,680
one, and I'm actually glad I'm
asking this one because I want

954
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,120
to quiz you.
So it's from Chris and he said

955
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,040
what are the 8 teaching
standards and is it shocking

956
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,880
nobody can ever name them?
Which might be laugh because I

957
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,600
immediately thought, oh God, I
can't name all the teaching

958
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,040
standards.
Do you think you can name them?

959
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,120
I'm going to say, yeah, I know a
bunch.

960
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
I'm going to think, OK, go on.
You OK, you're going to.

961
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,040
Get on my phone.
So I'm just going to check as

962
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,600
you go.
Go on I'm.

963
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,440
Going to try and do them in
order because that's how I

964
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,640
remember them from when I was at
uni.

965
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,680
By the way, can I just say uni
was 10 years ago?

966
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,600
And I've also got an answer to
this question after about if

967
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,800
it's bad people can't remember
or not, because I don't think it

968
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,960
is bad if you.
Get them all right, then it's.

969
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,480
You really should know.
Them so the first one is about

970
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,440
inspiring people and setting
high bars excite high

971
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,480
expectations.
So do you want?

972
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Me to like confirm oh.
Let's confirm them as I got

973
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,000
through.
That is one of them.

974
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,400
Yeah, saying high bars and
expectations.

975
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,840
The next one's about progress,
so making sure kids make good

976
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,360
progress.
Yeah, promote good progress. 3rd

977
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,640
1 is about subject knowledge.
Yep, knowing your stuff

978
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,520
basically T3I remember that one
yeah T3I remember it for T3.

979
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,000
So you've got to know the
curriculum and your own stuff #4

980
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,960
is because I remember it.
By applying 3 to plan good

981
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,000
lessons, plan and teach well
structured lessons, you're.

982
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,960
Such a nerd I love.
It plan and teach well

983
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:41,040
structured lessons.
Then 5 05's adapt, adapting

984
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,840
because because adapting.
I remember having this big thing

985
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,840
about people saying you need to
trust teachers to adapt.

986
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,920
It's literally a teacher
standard.

987
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:49,160
Oh, you went off script a bit
and the lesson looks different

988
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,520
to the person next door.
I'm doing the teacher standards.

989
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,560
I'm adapting to what's in front.
Adapt to teaching to respond to

990
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,960
the strength, strengths and
needs of the class.

991
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Yeah, OK, right.
Teacher TT6T6 teacher standard 6

992
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,600
is adapting their teacher
standard 6.

993
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,560
So we've got, I'm going to do it
in order again.

994
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,840
Subject knowledge is 3.
Plan and teach is 4 is 4, adapt

995
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,720
is 5-6 is assessment.
So it's in order.

996
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:13,880
It's in order.
So then you have to do

997
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,960
assessment.
In terms of using assessment to

998
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,120
inform yourself.
Yeah.

999
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,160
And then seven is behaviour.
Yeah, managed behaviour,

1000
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,920
effectively.
And then TSA is the one we

1001
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,120
always go on about, which is the
stupid wider professional

1002
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,800
responsibilities where it's like
you gotta do a disco.

1003
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,360
No, you don't read out TSA
because it doesn't say anything

1004
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,560
about doing a disco, doesn't say
anything about doing extra work

1005
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,880
outside of ours.
It's about, and then also

1006
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,720
there's an appendix like Part 2,
which is about this, which is

1007
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,720
like maintain, maintain
professional standards through

1008
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:41,200
your whole life.
Like it's the one where it's

1009
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,160
like, oh, by the way, when
you're not even being teaching,

1010
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,280
by the way, you can't be seen in
the pub, is what some people

1011
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,560
say.
Because you got to maintain your

1012
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,040
standards and be ready
professional all the time, which

1013
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,600
is ridiculous.
There's enough vagueness in

1014
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,360
there that it winds me up.
Did I get them?

1015
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,600
You, I mean, I'm very, you even
got the Yeah, you've got the

1016
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,880
appendix.
The way to remember too, yeah,

1017
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,040
the way to always remember
stuff, if anyone wants to

1018
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,960
remember bits, is just link them
and make a bit of a story.

1019
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,840
Yeah.
So then the first two I link,

1020
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,440
then the three I link, and then
after that, what you do, it's

1021
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,160
assessment.
And then what's the meta?

1022
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,520
One is behaviour.
And then it's wider, which is

1023
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,720
even more meta.
Very good link.

1024
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:13,880
Very, very good link.
What I need you to do now is

1025
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,600
say, Oh no, I don't know.
So I can cut that in and I cut

1026
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,800
the last bit the last five
minutes.

1027
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,880
No, no, no, we're going to keep
that.

1028
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,720
We're going to keep that there.
That's very impressive.

1029
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,800
The answer to the question,
however, I don't think it's bad

1030
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,200
people don't know them.
No, OK.

1031
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,360
And, and the reason I don't
think it's bad people don't know

1032
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,200
them is because there is nothing
on that list that you not

1033
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,920
knowing means you don't think
exists at all.

1034
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,320
Sure.
So like, for example, let's say

1035
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,880
I've just forgotten the
assessment one, right.

1036
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,760
Let's say I just didn't because
it would have been easy for me

1037
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,360
to forget one of them.
Let's say I forgot the

1038
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,120
assessment one.
Yeah.

1039
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,320
It doesn't mean I don't do
assessment.

1040
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,600
No, no, doesn't.
I don't understand the

1041
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,560
importance of assessment.
Like it's so drilled into you in

1042
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,520
the early stages.
Like, I don't think there's

1043
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,960
anything in those eight that you
could go to a teacher that's

1044
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,120
2345 years in and say, oh, have
you been managing your behaviour

1045
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,640
effectively?
And you'd be like, yeah, of

1046
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,000
course I have.
I'm a teacher who does this

1047
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,400
every day have.
You been doing that with tier?

1048
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,280
Seven.
No, not necessarily.

1049
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,920
So I think you should, you
should know them in that they

1050
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,120
should all be part of your
practise because it's literally

1051
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520
our standards and I don't think
there's anything in there

1052
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,880
actually that being a good
teacher doesn't cover.

1053
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,440
Yeah, I think that's what it is.
So if you're not doing them,

1054
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,000
fine.
If you can't recite 1 to 8, then

1055
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,960
you're not as good as me.
But it doesn't, it doesn't mean

1056
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,320
you're a, doesn't mean you're a
bad teacher.

1057
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,800
I don't think necessarily.
I think they're separate things.

1058
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,720
Yeah, I very much agree.
How many?

1059
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:28,880
How many do you think you would
have got?

1060
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,640
I reckon I would have got like 5
or 6.

1061
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,640
I think you would have got most.
Yeah.

1062
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,720
I just, I think I probably would
just forgotten one or two and

1063
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,600
think like like you said, I
would have maybe forgotten

1064
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,280
assessment because I'd be too
busy thinking about adapting.

1065
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,280
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's.

1066
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,480
Do another one because I'm, I'm
just going to get you going

1067
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,400
again and get get the old Dylan
juices flowing.

1068
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,480
This one's from Luke.
This is an old question.

1069
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,040
Actually.
We've we've had a lot of big

1070
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,360
backlog, a lot of people writing
questions.

1071
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,840
Yeah, Thank you.
And he said, who does the main

1072
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:57,600
responsibility for reading fall
on home or school, and why?

1073
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,000
It OK home definitely,
definitely.

1074
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,800
Way more than school.
I think way more.

1075
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,840
I really do think that because
I'm going to interpret this

1076
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,000
question as the, the, the
responsibility of a child doing

1077
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:19,320
reading, right, in terms of
learning how to read and maybe

1078
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,400
improving your comprehension of
texts or making sure that you

1079
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,200
have a wide range of texts to
see.

1080
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,040
I'd say all of those may be
edged towards school because the

1081
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,000
school has the the facilitation,
yeah, you can facilitate it,

1082
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,480
right.
But I do fundamentally believe

1083
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,400
that it comes from home.
The, the, the want and desire to

1084
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,120
read.
I don't think it's I don't think

1085
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,600
it's as simple as this is a
household that likes reading

1086
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,400
doesn't mean Rory will
automatically like reading.

1087
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,440
But I think it's if, if I think
to myself with my son now who's

1088
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,200
two, I'm already laying these
foundations of reading, reading,

1089
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,920
reading, reading, reading.
Nothing to do with school yet.

1090
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,680
He won't start school until he's
4-5, right?

1091
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,440
So it's nothing to do with
school yet.

1092
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,760
And I think they're vital these
first years just to get him

1093
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,120
around books, to see us reading
books, to see him enjoying the

1094
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,640
act of reading.
Like he's got to the point now

1095
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,200
where he'll open a book and
he'll see the pictures and the

1096
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,400
writing and he'll start to
describe what's happening in the

1097
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,200
pictures as if he's reading it.
So we're like rainbow, doggone

1098
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,560
rainbow in plane.
And he'll turn it over and be

1099
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,960
like tractor with the Bunny in
the mud, in the mud, the

1100
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,560
tractor.
Nothing to do with this.

1101
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,920
What's actually been reading?
But that is reading, reading.

1102
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,680
It's like it's a performance.
It's going through a knowing.

1103
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,480
There's a story, it's going
through an understanding.

1104
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,640
There's a sequence of what's
happening.

1105
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,160
It's making a link between the
pictures and what I say when I

1106
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,360
read the book.
So.

1107
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,360
So I think it's down to the
absolutely down to the parent.

1108
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,320
And at any point in Rory's life,
if someone to ask me like who's

1109
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,400
responsible for his reading, I
would always say me, yeah.

1110
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,680
So that's why I think it's the.
Parent, so do you, I think

1111
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,400
that's a completely fairpoint.
Do you think schools then should

1112
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,560
operate on the baseline
assumption that home life will

1113
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,640
do the bulk of.
Reading, No, not at all.

1114
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,760
Not the opposite.
I think.

1115
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,720
I think schools should operate
on the baseline of I need to

1116
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,360
make sure every child is.
You need to start from thinking

1117
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,440
no one reads anything right,
because you, you are

1118
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,040
facilitating that.
And that is, that is a public

1119
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,920
service that is funded by the
taxpayer for the next generation

1120
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,960
as well, which by the way, who
pays taxes?

1121
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,760
Everyone get myself included, so
I'm paying my taxes that some

1122
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,800
part go towards Rory's teacher
and school and funding, which in

1123
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,600
some part goes towards him being
able to get a wide range of

1124
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,040
books.
OK, so it's all cyclical, we're

1125
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,800
all involved in this, right?
I just think it's more on the

1126
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,920
home.
I don't think it absolves the

1127
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,560
school at all.
And I think it's really

1128
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,240
important that as a school you
think to yourself, it is my in

1129
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,160
terms of academically, it is my
utmost importance.

1130
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,240
It's number one by a mile is
reading and understanding books

1131
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,520
and being able to be literate.
Yeah, it's ahead of maths in my

1132
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,600
opinion.
Genuinely, I think, I think

1133
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,160
English and maths are up there.
I agree.

1134
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,280
Reading an arithmetic and number
and becoming fluent and you

1135
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,360
know, everything we're doing
with maths too.

1136
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,840
I think it's so important.
But also you think about, you

1137
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,160
know, our sister company with
stories as well and pushing out

1138
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,160
reading.
Yeah, being able.

1139
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,760
To read, what is there like
honesty to education other than

1140
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,400
that?
So when I say it's home life, I

1141
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,280
don't want people to diminish
the role of the school.

1142
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,200
I think they're both incredibly
important.

1143
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,840
And I think it is the job of the
school to always assume that

1144
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,080
teachers school, sorry that
children aren't getting all the

1145
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,400
reading they need at home.
Then they adapt and they think,

1146
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,680
OK, do you know what I need to
target now?

1147
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,000
Kids who I know aren't reading.
Kids who I know are reading.

1148
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,000
Fantastic.
It is now a better use of our

1149
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,760
resources.
Our limited resources, by the

1150
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,960
way, which I wish wasn't the
case.

1151
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,720
That child who I know never
picks up a book at home.

1152
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,400
I'm going to read it them every
day in school.

1153
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,960
The way the I'm just going to
challenge it because it sounds,

1154
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,640
it sounds to me like you're
saying it's, it's the school's

1155
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,440
responsibility to make sure.
That it's the school's

1156
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,400
responsibility to clean up after
the initial right.

1157
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,960
It's the responsibility of the
home to do reading, OK?

1158
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,680
It's the school's responsibility
to pick up the pieces.

1159
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:58,240
OK, All right.
There you go.

1160
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,160
That's what I'm saying.
Because before you said that, it

1161
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,240
sounded a bit like, no, you were
justifying it as like the

1162
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,120
school's responsibility, but
just saying the home should.

1163
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,720
Do it.
Let's say Rory's reading loads

1164
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:07,040
right?
Is it the school's

1165
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,320
responsibility to be reading
with him?

1166
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,560
Lots of school and making sure
he's reading 1 to one with a

1167
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,400
person?
No, because it's not.

1168
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,240
No, it's no longer an importance
of them.

1169
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,080
When they're looking at the
meta, they're looking at the

1170
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,720
whole picture and thinking,
facilitating, right?

1171
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,160
This 20% are really falling
through the gap and they're not

1172
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,760
getting the reading they need.
It's the first job of the people

1173
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,400
at home.
But there are going to be a

1174
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,760
bunch of kids who fall through
that, right.

1175
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,960
And now as a school with the
facilitation that we've got of

1176
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,200
cool, I can just give the
library card to to that kid.

1177
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,000
They're going to be fine.
That's enough for me to do.

1178
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,280
This child is not reading at
home ever.

1179
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,960
Yeah, we're going to do an
intervention.

1180
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,640
We're going to get this child
reading because the school

1181
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,880
should be thinking, OK, look, I
need 100% of kids reading what

1182
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,040
they need to read.
But the initial push has to come

1183
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,360
from home, has to come from
parents.

1184
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,040
And then hopefully what you're
hoping is we minimise how many

1185
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,280
are falling through that gap and
then how many school have to

1186
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,000
really intervene with.
They do a bit for everyone, but

1187
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,480
they have to really intervene
then to plug those gaps of what

1188
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,360
the first lot aren't doing do.
You think it's the school's

1189
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,080
responsibility to intervene as
much as possible in the 1st

1190
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,880
place to get the parents reading
with their kids?

1191
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,200
I I responsibility is a strange
what you could say it's their

1192
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,280
responsibility in that it's a
public service, a tax funded

1193
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,400
state school system where you
know, the school should be

1194
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,560
encouraging it massively, but
but the school can't go.

1195
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,960
I always said this to my
colleagues when they felt bad

1196
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,320
about the fact they felt like
they were doing everything they

1197
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,960
could for reading and they still
weren't reading at home.

1198
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,080
I had to say to my colleagues
like we can't go home with them.

1199
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,640
No, there, there is.
There is only so much we can do.

1200
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,320
And there is a chunk of thing
like there's a chunk of this

1201
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,840
here that we can't do because
the main bulk falls on the

1202
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,600
household.
Yeah, So there is some.

1203
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,400
We have to think here.
We can't do that.

1204
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,200
We can do everything we can up
until this point, but I can't go

1205
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,280
home and listen to this child
read three times a week.

1206
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,680
I can't do that.
So we have to pass it over to

1207
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,880
parents and say, look, this is
your responsibility and I'm

1208
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,080
going to do everything I can to
help you.

1209
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:52,840
It makes sense.
It makes complete sense.

1210
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,800
It's responsibility was not the
right word for me to use.

1211
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,240
And it's like saying it's the
responsibility of the police to

1212
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:00,840
to stop you from letting Rory
drive a car.

1213
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,080
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, obviously.

1214
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,120
Obviously you shouldn't have
the.

1215
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,760
Responsibility of the doctor for
me to not go skiing and break my

1216
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,160
leg.
Yeah, yeah.

1217
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,280
It's like they'll encourage you
to be safe and encourage you to

1218
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,760
practise and help you with
information.

1219
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,240
Yeah, but it's not.
They're not actually going to go

1220
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:13,200
skiing with you and like, stop
you doing it, you know?

1221
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,640
Exactly.
And I think that comes down to

1222
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,800
like how you see stuff as, you
know, it's down to the

1223
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,960
individual and the family.
Like, yeah.

1224
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,200
And you can look at like, oh,
but maybe the reason that family

1225
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,280
don't read as much is because
they were stuck in the system

1226
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,480
before and and their parents
didn't like reading, etcetera.

1227
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,880
All of that can still be true,
but the fact remains that it is

1228
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,000
ultimately down to the
responsibility of the household

1229
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,680
to do it.
Yeah, sure.

1230
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,160
And then we can have the safety
Nets in place.

1231
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,240
Yeah, good.
I would say nice.

1232
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,520
We're going to go for a slightly
longer episode because I want to

1233
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,000
ask you one more question.
We're going to finish on.

1234
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,320
This one, right?
Which feels like a interview

1235
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,080
today.
Sorry, anytime I ask a question

1236
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,480
it turns into you talking and me
listening.

1237
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,520
So let's go to this last one.
Like it's a bad thing.

1238
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,480
I'm genuinely enjoying getting
into your brain.

1239
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,600
So this one's from good old Tom.
He's labelled himself as not

1240
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,920
Tom.
Classic, classic.

1241
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:58,160
It might not be Tom.
It might not be Tom.

1242
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,960
I think it's Tom, he said.
Or are they?

1243
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,280
Or whoever it is?
What is one thing that all

1244
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,240
teachers should stop doing this
year and one thing they should

1245
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,840
all start doing?
OK, so it's almost like a New

1246
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,840
Year's resolution for you guys.
Yeah, like in your first week.

1247
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,200
Come.
On teachers, what should you

1248
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,440
stop?
What should they stop doing this

1249
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,480
year and what should they start
doing?

1250
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,840
OK, stop doing things just
because it's always been done.

1251
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,920
I've lived by that my whole
life.

1252
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,000
So questions, yes So yes, stop,
that's extreme.

1253
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,280
Stop accepting things just
because it's always the way it's

1254
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,000
been done.
Sure.

1255
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,200
That's what I say to people
like, oh, but we've always

1256
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,440
marked like this.
So.

1257
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,880
So that doesn't mean it's the
right thing to do.

1258
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,040
Yeah.
Doesn't mean it's useful.

1259
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,680
Doesn't mean it's a good use of
your time.

1260
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,120
Stop doing stuff.
And this is just in wildlife,

1261
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,480
actually, I, I still think this
in everything I do.

1262
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,440
Don't do something just because
it's the way it was or the way

1263
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,600
it is.
That does not, that does not

1264
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,680
equal.
It's the right thing to do.

1265
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,280
It sometimes does.
Yeah.

1266
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,240
Sometimes we've been doing
something for that long because

1267
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,200
it works really well.
Sometimes we've been doing

1268
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,720
something for that long just
because it's the rut we got in

1269
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,040
and times have changed.
Maybe it was the right thing to

1270
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,080
do in the 1970s, but it's
definitely not the right thing

1271
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,200
to do now because other things
have changed around us.

1272
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,720
So I think just be critical and
open minded and do do not stop

1273
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,080
doing things just because.
And if you.

1274
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,320
Yeah, if you think there's three
reasons why this is mad, but oh,

1275
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,080
we've always done it.
Stop.

1276
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:14,800
Yeah, yeah.
Stop.

1277
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,360
Raise it.
Stop.

1278
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,440
Yeah.
So that's what I'd say to.

1279
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,800
Stop.
I have a good analogy for this

1280
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,320
actually.
So if I real life recent

1281
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,360
analogy, I was around your house
literally 2 days ago and you

1282
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,040
were cooking us all breakfast.
Thank you, that was very nice.

1283
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,640
And you were making scrambled
egg in a frying pan.

1284
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,480
And I've always made scrambled
egg in a saucepan.

1285
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,960
And Lauren, Lauren told me that
I'm crazy.

1286
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,960
And I was, I was like, no, it's
a 1V1 at this point.

1287
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,280
Yeah, because she does it in a
frying pan as well.

1288
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,600
I was like, mad sauce.
Why?

1289
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,600
A sauce?
Scrambled egg isn't a saucepan,

1290
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,800
right?
And then and then asked, what

1291
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,080
are you doing in a frying pan?
And Lauren was like, see, you're

1292
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,440
mad.
At least you you're the crazy.

1293
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,200
I was like, I'm not the crazy 1.
You guys are the crazy 1.

1294
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,000
Looked it up.
Normal to do it in a frying pan.

1295
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Sometimes you just gotta, you
just got a question while you're

1296
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,240
doing things.
I did it because clearly I got

1297
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:52,840
shown how to cook it once in a
sauce.

1298
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,480
So funny.
And I was like, of course it

1299
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,720
makes sense in the frying pan.
Sauce.

1300
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,240
Yeah, that's what like boiling.
Yeah, you just mix it all in

1301
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:00,960
there and then it just starts.
Turning scrambler, Sure.

1302
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,760
So they it's just like a very
steep saucepan I guess, isn't

1303
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,680
it?
That's a very steep fan, sorry.

1304
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,560
So sometimes you just have to
think.

1305
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,040
Well, what am I doing?
This?

1306
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,280
It's a good analogy.
I meant you're doing stuff which

1307
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,080
is detrimental, wasting your
time, etcetera.

1308
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,440
Like you're just doing something
different.

1309
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,800
That's bizarre.
Well, yeah, it's bizarre and

1310
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,360
it's worse.
It's less effective.

1311
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,840
So that's what I'd say not to
do.

1312
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,320
Yeah, I like it.
Nice.

1313
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,720
And one thing to do is it to
just do the opposite of that.

1314
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,720
Question thing.
Yeah.

1315
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:24,960
One thing.
No.

1316
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,080
OK, let's think I would say.
A positive thing?

1317
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,800
What could what could the what
could the teachers do this?

1318
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,320
Year.
Yeah, I I think really please,

1319
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,440
if you don't already, do this.
Follow the podcast, listen every

1320
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,840
week.
No, God, you're going to say

1321
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,640
that serious.
That's good.

1322
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,400
That's good.
If you don't already do this,

1323
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,440
put yourself first in in some
degree.

1324
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,000
Invest in yourself somehow.
Teaching is a very giving

1325
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,400
profession.
It's full of people who really

1326
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,520
want to do the right thing for
other people, and it's full of

1327
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,240
amazing people who have that
mindset of service.

1328
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,880
We talked about this a lot, the
mindset of I want to help other

1329
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:00,960
people.
Why else would you become a

1330
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,080
teacher, honestly?
So the vast majority of teachers

1331
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,920
are there because they love
giving to other people.

1332
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,360
So often that doesn't translate
to themselves.

1333
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,840
Remember, you're a person just
as much as the people you're

1334
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,240
serving a people.
You are just as deserving of

1335
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:15,920
that service as the thirty
children you're giving yourself

1336
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,200
to every single day as the
leadership team that you're

1337
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,840
looking out for all the time.
As for your staff and you know

1338
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,720
your your colleagues who are
around you, when you feel that

1339
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:26,800
inherent desire to help them and
serve them and be kind to them

1340
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,720
and be nice for them, remember
that it's equally as important,

1341
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,360
if not more to do it for
yourself.

1342
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,880
So what I'd say to people is
carve out time if you like doing

1343
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,120
something just like you would
never miss out on giving the

1344
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,240
kids the best maths lesson of
the you know every single day

1345
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:43,560
that you can give because you
know that it's important to do

1346
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,640
for them.
Give yourself that time later on

1347
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,040
for doing something, do a bit of
exercise, go for a walk, do

1348
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,320
something for you that even
maybe you don't even like doing,

1349
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,840
but you know that going for a
bit of exercise or a walk is

1350
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,560
more beneficial for yourself and
your body.

1351
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,960
You know that picking that meal
is better for you.

1352
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,640
You know that going to your
friend and, and just putting

1353
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,720
yourself out there and texting
someone you're not seeing in in

1354
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:07,760
six months just because you're
both busy and there's no hate at

1355
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,400
all, but you think, oh, just
leave it.

1356
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,080
No, don't text them.
Just see if they want to meet

1357
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,720
up, go and see them.
It'll probably be a really nice

1358
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:14,560
conversation.
Maybe that's what I'll say, but

1359
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,320
just look after yourself, like
give, give yourself what you

1360
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,520
give everyone else and and look
after yourself a bit more and

1361
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,720
just do something for you from
now like this minute.

1362
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:28,840
And if that means it could
manifest itself in different

1363
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,960
ways.
I always say this, go home

1364
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,200
early.
It's just an easy thing to say.

1365
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,960
Go home early.
Do less work.

1366
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,000
But it could even be just like
keep work the same.

1367
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,960
But on a Sunday morning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1368
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,960
Go for go for a walk, you know,
you know, meet a friend every

1369
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,240
week, you know, go and play
squash, do a bit of amateur like

1370
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,560
pick up, pick up a new hobby,
try something new.

1371
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,120
You are as deserved serving as
the service you give other.

1372
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,080
People, me and you gonna do
that?

1373
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:50,800
Yeah.
We are gonna join a squash club

1374
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,720
next week there.
We I've already emailed them.

1375
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,320
We're gonna do it.
We're gonna do it.

1376
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,360
We're gonna do that.
It's gonna be great.

1377
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,040
Just do it.
And too often in life you get 4

1378
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,440
or 5-6 years down the line you
think, I wish I did that.

1379
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Never wish you did something,
just do it.

1380
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,400
If you can do something, do it.
Why aren't you?

1381
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,800
Hashtag no regrets, baby.
No.

1382
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,840
Well yeah, that's the cringe
version of.

1383
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,520
One your what you said was a
much more profound version of

1384
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,520
what the the thing I had in my
head.

1385
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,080
I'd like a little I'd like a
little New Year's resolution

1386
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,560
goal, just like a little thing.
And you just basically summarise

1387
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,720
what my thing is encapsulated
into a much better, more

1388
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:27,480
profound, much more wise thing.
Mine was literally, I want you

1389
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,600
to set a target of you have a
weekly day where you either you

1390
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,880
call it your go home early day
or you're getting late day.

1391
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,880
I did this and it was great.
And I always had a day of the

1392
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,720
week where I was like, I spent
the rest of my week

1393
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,680
manufacturing it so that I could
get up late and I could and I

1394
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,920
could get in at like 8:15 that
day because I hate getting up.

1395
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,320
Some people, morning people.
That's fine.

1396
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,240
You might want to do the reverse
of this one, which is you get to

1397
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:51,920
go home at 3:30 on a day of the
week.

1398
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,280
So yeah, that or what Dylan
said.

1399
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,560
Within mine, I was like, anyone
can say, yeah, I.

1400
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,880
Was like, oh, here we go.
Oh.

1401
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,560
That's fine.
My point was, is you how many

1402
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,240
times we said that on the pod?
Like, yeah, yeah, over and over

1403
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:04,440
again.
But just get to the core of what

1404
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,080
we're actually saying is you
deserve it as much as anyone

1405
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,320
else.
You are as deserving.

1406
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,480
We always do this.
I do it to myself all the time.

1407
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,440
I treat myself much more harshly
than anyone.

1408
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:13,480
Much.
I don't.

1409
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,440
I don't treat myself the way I
treat someone else.

1410
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,760
If I give someone, I treat.
You pretty badly.

1411
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:20,960
Yeah, it's double, double whammy
here.

1412
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,840
But yeah, that's it.
And yeah, I hope that makes

1413
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,440
sense.
That's my profound message to

1414
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,760
you all, 2026.
And also like and subscribe and

1415
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,840
follow and share and rate.
And join the WhatsApp community.

1416
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,960
We've had plenty more people
join.

1417
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,200
It's a fantastic place.
It's often very funny.

1418
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,080
It's not as serious as you'd
think it would be.

1419
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,120
I don't think anyone is serious.
A bunch of professional teachers

1420
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,400
in the WhatsApp community.
I don't think anyone watching

1421
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,520
this has gone.
I will join this WhatsApp

1422
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,800
community for a good
professional dialogue that's

1423
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,040
always above board and very not
entertaining.

1424
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,440
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.

1425
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,040
Guys, see you next time.
Bye.