5: When Schools Become Toxic (Extended Episode)

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So, why did you decide to edit
the Roald Dahl books?

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Well, we launched a sensitivity
review.

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We think that it's plain and
obvious that being so offensive.

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Just won't cut it in a modern
society.

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Some have suggested that you
made the step to try to Pander

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to a more modern audience to
keep sales up.

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Oh gosh, no, absolutely not.
We thoroughly believe that this

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language is offensive wrong and
has no place in our culture.

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Money does not impact our
morality brilliant.

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So the horrific backlash from
many people who have suggested

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that, it wasn't an over reaction
and that they were, in fact,

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won't be buying the book anymore
won't affect your decision at

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all.
Well, what are you saying to me?

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That our sales are down?
Well, yes.

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It has been a huge backlash, but
fair play for sticking to your

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guns and going with what you
believe is morally correct.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, steady on
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Boy.
We're here with the Road Dogg

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company.
Take issues of censorship.

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Extremely, seriously, we've
never edit books, which means

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our reputation and bank balance
took a hit.

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I mean, we We never edit books.
Wait, wait.

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So doesn't this make you a whole
sensitivity review kind of

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pointless?
No, no, no, no.

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We're going to make both the
originals and the edited

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versions available for sale.
And we believe both that these

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edits are morally, right?
And morally wrong, depending on,

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who's buying the book, Hello
everyone and welcome back to

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another episode of teach sleep.
Repeat, this is episode 5.

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My name is Dylan and my name is
Hayden.

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And we are back again with
another one.

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It's been a busy week this week.
There's another teacher strike

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going on as we record this.
It's happening today for you or

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be obviously in the past.
But what I wanted to do Hayden

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was just ask you how's your week
been?

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May have not really been
catching up you much now.

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Not seen you have.
I I've had a funny week

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actually.
I have Thought something for the

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first time is now, it's not
often.

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Is it in our career?
Now, this far in that we

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actually teach something that's
brand-new, we've kind of done

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it.
All right, I've been teaching

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yoga, I'll just preface this
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this group of kids, who like,
you know what, we gonna do, what

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we do in a PA, what we doing,
what we do and I said yoga and

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they're like one of them looked
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oh honestly, as it'll be like,
I'm not sure you can stretch

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knit.
And she said no offense, but

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they have to be a little bit
more flexible for that.

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And I was like, you cheeky, The
but inside thinking okay I am

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actually not flexible
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So I've been teaching video, do
funnily, enough, my children as

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well.
I've told them that we'll be

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doing dancing in PE and had a
very similar experience actually

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of them just thinking, okay, I
don't think that you'll be

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teaching me how to dance.
Yeah, I've had that.

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You know what?
I've enjoyed it though, there's

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like way more than I thought I
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I was a little bit like, oh my
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Just get through this.
This unit never taught yoga.

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It's been really good.
The kids are actually loving it.

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It's all about relaxation,
obviously, and stretching.

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And I was thinking, oh, they're
all going to just below.

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Oh oh oh well let's just play
some sport.

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You know, they love it.
They're stretching their diet

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breathing properly, I'm thinking
they're going to laugh.

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They're not have been really
well-behaved, it's actually

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quite enjoyable.
I think a lot of people actually

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with yoga.
It's a really interesting one

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because when they do it adults
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There's a lot of Skeptics but
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I've seen tried actually.
I said, wait a minute.

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Yeah, it's good.
Just to slow down and let your

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body and control your breathing
like it.

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But it does feel better to do
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Yeah, this relaxation thing is
relaxing night, either.

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I thought it would do that.
I don't have a fun experience

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that one of the children.
I don't know.

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It was, but it was just funny
because it was silent.

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Whole, we're doing a frog pose,
which is where I literally look

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like a frog pose.
It is, that is it simple as

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that.
Exactly.

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What you imagined legs, kind of
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like a frog and you just kind of
crouched down and you do some

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breathing crouched down, you can
imagine what happened.

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You're compressing, your stomach
just had a nice prop Trump

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through the hall as we did that.
That was that was quite amusing

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to try to ignore that.
I could, you know, you just

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pretend that.
Oh, no.

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Didn't hear that.
All the kids are like Just as

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you're trying to calm everyone
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It's on, let's one frame.
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Luckily they were calm enough to
just get over it pretty quickly.

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Anyway, what have you been up
to?

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Well, it's been assessment week
for us.

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Obviously down in lower school.
Yes, 3, 4 and 5 and our school

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be doing assessments, just to
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halfway through the year and
assessment week always throws

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up.
Some absolute Corker has I

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absolutely love marking their
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I really do.
Sometimes you think I've got to

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get through all of these papers
and they'd pilot really quickly.

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You do a Maps everything
meticulously.

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English reading, then the next
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paper and you've got GPS, it
just adds up and adds up,

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actually, I relish it because
some of the answers are just

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unbelievable, and they've really
thrown up some comedy.

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This this year, we had one
question in maths and it was a

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reasoning question.
So one of the characters in the

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test because you have the same
characters, no, shiv and Dev,

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they're always in there in the
SATs we know it's Chen.

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Good old channel is turns up but
in our papers, one of them had

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said, if I count from 0 to 400,
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So if I can Zero from zero in my
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fours, will I reach 421?
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And I'd lots of answers
brilliant.

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None of them.
Right.

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But lots of very interesting
answers because we've been

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really focusing on like the
procedure getting them really

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solid actually doing the maths.
And we've done some reason

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obviously, but just they're a
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But they really try so hard and
the answers they were genuine

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but they really made me laugh
and one child.

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Again, we were talking about
being quick and a test of how

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pace is quite important.
Because if you get stuck on a

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question, you can't really waste
all your time on it because you

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might have a question you can do
later on which means you won't

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get there in the end.
So we train them to just think.

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Okay.
If you're not sure just going to

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the next one.
Come back to it later.

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Yeah.
Anyway, this child's answer.

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A bit of fear into me that he'd
been sat there for ten minutes.

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Because he said, no, because I
counted from zero and I didn't

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get to 421 lat.
Just wait about time.

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I thought you were going to say.
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Because the time.
Table doesn't go that high.

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That sounds like a nice.
I had I had one that said yes.

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And their answer was simply yes
because and in this in these

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questions you don't get a mark
just for saying yes or no.

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They're really just test your
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Your reasoning one of them said
yes because numbers go on

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forever.
Hello really.

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Trying to catch you out there
when they thinking maybe he'll

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believe that you're allowed to
take that one, that's a good

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reason.
Yeah, they do go on and and

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another one that really cracked
me up there was this specific

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question basically, because it
made me realize perhaps that's

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something we can work on in the
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Because one of the children said
and I Never ever mastered these

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words in my life, but it was
really cute because I can see

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where they've got it from.
They went.

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Yep. 421, is because any number
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times.
They just, they Tryin, they know

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that you need, those kind of
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They just they don't the Logics
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Yeah, they might have got it
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Now, it's five euros, or, you
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be an even number.
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actually, you know, I wasn't at
all annoyed obviously.

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And I just think that's a really
good use of assessment actually.

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Really.
Yeah, and when you get there

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moments of, wait a minute,
nearly everyone was kind of

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falling down and this question
type and that's where

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assessments can be so useful
because sometimes it can feel

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like you're hitting your head
against the wall, like, why are

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we bothering with this
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I'd rather be teaching them.
I'd rather be actually teaching

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these children, these things,
but they do have their uses and,

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you know, Gap analysis and
seeing where the children,

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actually course, the questions.
Where you think I kind of

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expected most of them to be
getting there.

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Well, now, I could do that in my
starters, and we can really

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focus on that.
So, yeah, I've had assessment

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week, it's been enjoyable for
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Me to see how the children are
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I'm not sure the three children
by the way, in my class who all

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had birthdays this week, who all
spent it doing assessment, liked

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it that much?
That's rubbish.

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That's that sucks.
I am you just think about

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assessment?
Just reminded me of just might

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were really quick story.
Just my favorite.

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Little thing is a spelling test
it was years ago but it's just

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stuck in my head and the Word
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And you know, this story is.
I know there's a way it's about,

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right?
Because I showed about 5,000

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times because it made me laugh
so much the best spelling of

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giraffe ever.
And I want you to listen is just

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to think, what would be, how
could you spell giraffe in a

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funny way that still says
giraffe and it's the most

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simplistic way for letters long.
Okay draft2digital.

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It was the best feeling I've
ever seen her word and I just

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think that person should be like
a dictionary, but yeah.

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I think that's brilliant because
they are absolutely just using

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the sounds.
Yeah, trough.

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So let's graph and say, yeah,
it's like not even the, I just

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love.
They didn't get their GI because

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we don't really pronounce it.
Do we properly, but nobody don't

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often say G RAF.
Like we just get, it's a really

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crappy.
It's not really common with

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spelling actually, and it's the
Ed ending because that Ed

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ending, quite often makes a t
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So what we see a lot of in our
writing is, I'll say jumped, and

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you can tell the children of
That they're going.

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Okay okay.
How can I write spell this word?

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Me?
Stand out jump dude.

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Mmm and they just see on the end
and you have to look at and go

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well you know there's some logic
there at least you don't put a

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why for no reason.
And then as in, you know, in the

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English language we thought I
know let's make some of them

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actually have a tea and then you
get words like burnt.

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I know they have this lithium
has more logic behind it.

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We can explain why there's
burned and burnt but for the

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kids they just like what some of
them have tea.

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I thought it was a.
He always Edie.

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How's it cracks me up reminds me
of that video we made Hayden of

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the ough ending yeah.
How many different ways there

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are saying it crazy.
How on Earth do people with a

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foreign language learned?
This English language, I do not

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get it.
Is that it's a tough that sound?

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Yeah.
Sometimes would you mean while

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this through actually understand
this.

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Do this do oh yeah it's just
five this five or six isn't the

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company was found six, different
sounds for the ough spelling.

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One more thing that happened
this week which I knew you'd

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find quite funny because of the
visual comparisons.

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But I had to kind of
observation, it wasn't a proper

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preservation, but we had like a
visit to come around our school

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head.
Teacher took them around.

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She helps with, I like school,
Improvement plan and stuff came

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into my lesson for about 20
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But I was bit, you know, you
always on edge only, when

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someone's just sat there like,
watching clearly judging you.

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Anyway, I'm thinking right,
let's make this.

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Let's make this really good.
The kids are come to the from.

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We were doing some whiteboard
work on the, on the board and

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one of the children just called
me Voldemort and, you know, it

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is like, there's a little in
Which is like a little in joke

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with me in the kids.
We'd be messing around the day

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before.
I was calling a Hedwig And she

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was called me Voldemort because
she I'll tell you to be

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offended.
She was like, you look like

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Voldemort because you're bold
and I was like, hey, you know,

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hey that's mean and I started
calling her Harry Potter names,

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and we're just having a joke
being out of context.

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I was like, I don't want the
head teacher, just to think that

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these kids are just rinsing me,
couldn't be the older more

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inappropriate.
Yeah, I know and I was like, oh

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it just made me feel so awkward
but I knew it'd make you laugh

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because of Voldemort that is
hilarious.

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And that's that's true though
because like It sometimes, you

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know, it that's happened to me
before, right?

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Where I've told the children for
example, my first name because I

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because I just don't care.
Because, yeah, by the way guys,

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I'm a human being with a name.
I'm not just Mr. Price, who

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lives in his cupboard?
When you go home, like I don't

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just come out in the morning.
I'm a human being.

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So I often tell them stuff by
personal life, like that's

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relevant or, you know, they tell
me something that happened at

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home.
I say something I did that

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weekend, I went to see my
parents and they've got a dog,

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and we went out for whatever.
And so I tell them my name and

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Then obviously, you tell some
children the name of their

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teacher, especially the teacher
before thought that was

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inappropriate for every reason
or didn't choose chose not to

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make that a thing, they're
really excited by it and it's

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quite clear.
Let you tell me your age like

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you're 29.
I'm like, yeah, I know if that's

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if that's made you happy then
that's the easiest thing.

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In the world.
Believe me, I'll sort of my age.

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I believe it.
Nobody's it, the parents, don't

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believe you ever met and then
also.

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So I tell them my name is Dylan.
And I remember very vividly in

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another school.
There was this teacher, who's a

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bit more old school, absolutely
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Brilliant.
But she's a bit more old school

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where that would be completely
inappropriate for the children

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to ever know or call you by
their name disrespectful.

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Just not right.
And I remember because I was

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having a chat with her and one
of my children won't pass and

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the child went.
Hey Dylan, are you do it like

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that?
So I'm prepared to reply, I'm

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just go.
Oh careful what you like.

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I just laugh it off because of
the context right there.

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You can text that I've told them
it and I made a joke and that's

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that's fine to me and this
teacher just lost it.

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She's like how Dare you
disrespect your teachers

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announcer.
Whoa!

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Stop.
Stop it.

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Because I'm there, like God, I'm
the reason this child's getting

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told off now.
Have I pushed the line by

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telling the money, I don't think
so and that kind of that is

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exactly what's happened there.
Isn't it with your little joke

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and the head coming?
It's like, oh this is fine.

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But why?
Now, why have you done that

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right now?
Can we just and then you feel

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like, I shouldn't be hiding it
anyway, it doesn't really

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matter.
So it's all that context, right?

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Yeah, exactly.
That.

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And it's our decision personal
decision, I had chose to have

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that joke with that child.
I chose to not get annoyed when

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they compare Peter.
All the more because they were

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trying to be funny.
They want to insult me.

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They were trying to her laughs.
Yeah.

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It's all about the context and
I'm leaking onto that is funnily

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enough.
Actually, it's kind of linked.

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I suppose one of my children
this week, I really gone with

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him.
I really got on with him and my

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children.
They were just, you know, when

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they just get a bit too loud and
they just carry on a little bit

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too much.
Sometimes you just have to

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remind them and you just have to
bring them back down and to say

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very calmly and you know, use
that whole guys, you know, you

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let me down.
A little bit because actually, I

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don't mind if you're having a
chat about this, or that if

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you're getting the work done in
this context, and you're talking

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about the work, but you just
kind of little bit too far,

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guys.
I think, sometimes you just

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chatting about something
different, something else to do

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the lesson and it's not really
the time for that, and you just

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try and level with them in that
way.

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And if that works, 95% of the
time, never have to raise your

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voice or actually get annoyed at
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They kind of do reason with
that.

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And, and one of my boys came up
to me and he said Mr. Price, I

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was like, yes, yes.
No, you just said about,

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obviously we weren't really our
best behavior, so afternoon, I

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was like, yeah, well, I was just
thinking what I'm going to do

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because of that.
After school, I'm going to go to

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the shop and the corner, and I'm
going to get you something.

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I know, I know not all listen.
We all have these time sometimes

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and I just wanted to remind you
what the expectations are and

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that's why I know just next time
we're just going to try and

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focus our work a bit more you
know it's just a whole class

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thing.
You'd have to get me anything at

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all and you kind of put his
finger like this and then and

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then another listen, I'm the
boss around here and I do don't

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take no for an answer.
Oh no, I love it when they

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repeat phrases.
Yeah, they just hear that from

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somewhere.
And I was okay, but listen to

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me, I don't need to do anything
for me like that.

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I just want next time.
As a class, we're going to

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really focus on our work and as
I, okay, okay.

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And anyway, so the end of the
day, he's walking off and he's

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with me to start with, obviously
waiting for parents to pick up

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and he just looked at me Rose.
But you know, I'm going just

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like, no, don't don't do this.
I so and then he walked off, so

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he's trying to play it cool.
Like, yeah, I'm the boss.

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Stuff.
His parent arrived and he walked

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off in his object, there's mom.
And I saw, ya cut short off.

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You go and he walked off and
he's dead sweet.

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You always waves at me as he
goes as well.

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Really, really sweet boy.
Just wants to be nice and in

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some ways by mr.
Price by and he's walking off he

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goes by see you later.
Bye.

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Love you.
I just yeah paused and we looked

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at each other died.
He was just like he went red as

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a beet root cause you just used
to say that's his mum and he was

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just like and I just pointed to
and I went all go so that shop

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now.
I won't tell your mates that

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actually has happened to me a
couple of times and my favorite

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one, it was like a double, it
was so funny.

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There's this boy, equals sort of
thing.

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Had a nice relationship with
this kid, right?

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Really, really nice and his
whole family's Gonna Save you

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and he was India six at the
time.

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Two years ago now, and he was
leaving the room.

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He was the last one out of the
room, so he's lucky.

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No one else was around.
I didn't laugh at him and he and

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he caught first.
All he called me, mum, Mom, mom,

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mom mom and then he did that
thing from Agents immediately.

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You've got Junk cause you're
like, oh god, I've said the

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wrong thing and that's terribly
embarrassing.

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He was embarrassed and then a
bit flustered and then as he was

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leaving the door, he kind of
clothes he went right?

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Okay love you.
Oh and he got it again.

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It's called my mom and said love
you and he just he just left in

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like red face and just left and
just breathe in silence.

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It was done in.
If I kind of Ages just knowing

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that for him, that's like he's
gonna think about that all day

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now.
Like, I can't believe.

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Levi called my male teacher mum,
unbelievable?

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So, before we move on, going
back to assessment week, what

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I'm going to do Hayden because
obviously we set up the

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Instagram this week, right?
And it's actually been pretty

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awesome.
We've got a whole bunch of

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followers.
Some of our friends obviously

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some people we know some of you
guys.

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I don't actually know where
you've come from.

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So higher, high open listing and
we don't know who you are.

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Thank you so much for paying
attention and following on

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Instagram because what I'm going
to do Hayden, I'm going to post

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a couple of funny Answers on our
Instagram.

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So if you want to go and take a
look and my absolute favorite

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one, it'll be the last one
obviously, because, you know,

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you need to play the Instagram
algorithm, right?

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You need to get swiping.
I've heard that's what you do.

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So the last picture I'll put on
the roulette wheel will be one

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from your girlfriend Hayden.
Yeah, it is honest to God.

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My one of my favorite ever.
Do you see them online?

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Sometimes you're like, oh God,
that's unbelievable.

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That would never happen to me.
That's that's crazy.

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And we see our own ones that are
quite funny and maybe a bit

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silly.
The one that your girlfriend has

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I'm not going to give any
spoilers.

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Maybe Hayden you can just say
one word at the end which are

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might give a people over him and
it's my favorite answer ever go

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and see on our Instagram, teach
sleep, repeat podcast.

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I want you to go onto that and
and take a look.

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Hey Dan, what's the what's the
one word him?

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I wasn't no, I'll just put my
get way too much.

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I'm gonna go for the less.
Okay, we're less intimately.

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I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna
say Pentagon.

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Okay, pretty, I was hoping to go
for that one.

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As soon as I said, one word I
was like, oh, don't give it away

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because it comes down to a This
understanding, let's say it's

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really worth seeing.
So guys, check this out and hate

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it.
I think it's time for us to

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actually move on.
This week, we wanted to take a

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look at something that really
really bugs us as teachers and

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that is toxic SLT.
And before we go into any

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detail, a really want to make it
clear.

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Both of us do that the schools
we currently work at.

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Absolutely.
Do not think this about our

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current managers are leaders.
One bit, this is not at all.

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The talking about we're talking
about where we here in the

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community of teachers, horror
stories of management just going

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AWOL Are going absolutely off
the rails and just bring him

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rules.
Bring an expectations which are

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just completely unreasonable and
makes you think, what on Earth

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are you thinking, where do you
get off?

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But there was one thing that
came up this week, Caden, that

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really riled me up and it kind
of links to completely

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incompetent, useless leaders.
And that is something from the

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release of Matt, Hancock's,
WhatsApp messages.

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Have you seen anything about
arkady?

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I saw you put this on our
Instagram, but I was meant to

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ask you.
I've genuinely have noticed.

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Trending.
I don't know what it is though.

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If you could fill me in, that
would be great.

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Okay, that's good.
Because I can tell you what

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happened, then maybe we can have
a discussion from there, but

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your your original thoughts.
So essentially Matt Hancock, you

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know, the guy who wanted a
separate, you know, that guy.

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Yea though, the guy who was at
the health secretary during the

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pandemic.
Yeah.

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You know, that guy here,
fumbling be food.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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It was an end and they didn't
follow them himself.

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That's that guy.
Yeah.

450
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,700
It's hot guy.
Hot guy, but he was a bit.

451
00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:14,000
He was a bit nice on.
I'm so there but everything he's

452
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:22,600
got He said sorry what?
So basically Matt Hancock very

453
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,100
recently try to kind of steal a
jump because at the minute

454
00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:27,500
there's a big covid inquiry
going on.

455
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,500
It don't know how long it's
going to take its dragging their

456
00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:31,300
feet.
Obviously, there's going to be

457
00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:34,200
loads of things that happened
during the covid pandemic that

458
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,900
were wrong incorrect.
They made bad decisions.

459
00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:40,800
But there is a genuine, I think
understanding even from me, the

460
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,000
most vehemently against the
conservative party that I do.

461
00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,200
I understand that it was
happening in real time.

462
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,500
We've not had anything like this
before, they had to make quick

463
00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:52,400
decisions.
And actually, I kind of there

464
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,000
are certain things that they
did, which I think well, you

465
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,600
know, they try to act quick them
and maybe it was the wrong thing

466
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,600
to do, even down to some of the
contracts that they ordered.

467
00:19:59,900 --> 00:20:02,700
They ordered loads and loads of
something, maybe it didn't come

468
00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:05,900
through, there was some sort
talk about it, being giving

469
00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:07,700
loads of money to their friends
and stuff, but I do think

470
00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:11,000
sometimes they were just trying
to secure huge amounts of PPP as

471
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,900
soon as possible and it kind of
just went wrong another time.

472
00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:15,900
So we're just trying to secure
her Amounts of money for their

473
00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:18,100
friends.
So it is 50/50.

474
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,800
This is the problem, this is the
problem.

475
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,100
Then this is the, I guess the
point I'm making is that yes,

476
00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:28,400
there were that, but how on
Earth can you look past the

477
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,900
other things which were just
outright outrageous?

478
00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:36,200
I can't think of a different way
to say absolutely idiotic.

479
00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:38,900
Absolutely idiotic decisions.
And and the thing that's really

480
00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:41,100
interesting is what's happened,
is Matt Hancock.

481
00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:43,500
Like I was saying he would least
a book recently, the covid

482
00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:45,300
Diaries really soon.
Soon.

483
00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:47,600
Realistically, if you think
about it, after what happened?

484
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,600
Very raw, lots of families died,
and had people who died in their

485
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,700
due to covid.
And due to direct decisions.

486
00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:57,100
That the government made, let's
be realistic.

487
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,400
And there's this, he tried to
steal a March.

488
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,000
Basically, he tried to release
his own story before the inquiry

489
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,800
came out before.
Anyone could say anything,

490
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,700
obviously to try and frame it to
make him look better, right?

491
00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:09,500
Of course, she's going to say
something to frame it in a way

492
00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,100
where he's like, I was a
bubbling buffoon who got

493
00:21:11,108 --> 00:21:14,900
everything wrong.
But what he did was he hired he

494
00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:18,200
Active a reporter.
A journalist called Isobel

495
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,900
oakeshott.
I believe her name is and she is

496
00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:25,000
one of those GB news types, talk
to EV very much anti lock down,

497
00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:28,600
but quite a prominent figure on
the right of politics in

498
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,300
England.
And for all intensive purposes

499
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,700
knows how to put an article
together.

500
00:21:32,700 --> 00:21:35,000
Let's say knows how to put a
good piece of writing together

501
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,900
to that's engaging gets clicks
and things like that he worked

502
00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:39,800
with her on this book.
She was basically his

503
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,500
Ghostwriter because obviously,
he's not an author.

504
00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:44,600
He's not a very good selfish
actually, never mind an author

505
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,400
as well.
Well, and she had signed a

506
00:21:47,408 --> 00:21:50,700
nondisclosure agreement to not
to release any of these WhatsApp

507
00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:52,900
messages because he decided to
give them to her.

508
00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:55,200
As if to say look, here's
everything that happened.

509
00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:57,400
Here are all my WhatsApp
messages, why?

510
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,900
I think it was let me get this,
right?

511
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:02,500
It's over 100,000 messages.
And there's over two million

512
00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:05,200
words, right?
That he literally handed over to

513
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,000
her.
As, if to say look, this is

514
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,300
everything that happened.
Let's write a diary about what

515
00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:12,300
went on and essentially, it
turns out that the whole of

516
00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:16,400
government during this time went
on to Zap, I think what's apps

517
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,100
this place, where actually, we
were having things, decided

518
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:23,000
about our freedoms and our
liberties, and our on our rules,

519
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,700
and our children, and our
schools, just via WhatsApp in.

520
00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,400
You know, it's if I send means
on WhatsApp.

521
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,600
How on Earth is political stuff
going on and WhatsApp?

522
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,200
And essentially what's happened
is, she released them to the

523
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,800
telegraph.
So she ignored the NDA and her

524
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,600
point is well, it's for the
public good.

525
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000
This is a woman who was anti
lock down right, completely anti

526
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,400
lock down who the health
secretary, who imposed lockdowns

527
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,500
Chose to help write his book
defending him.

528
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,400
And now he's shocked that she's
turned around and release these

529
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,200
messages and it's just filled.
And the telegraph of said, look,

530
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,300
there's about 50 stories in here
and they started to release them

531
00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:01,100
like one by one.
Obviously, it's a great scoop

532
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:04,500
for them, but the big thing
bringing this back down 360

533
00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:06,200
Hayden, the reason it's relevant
to us.

534
00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:08,700
Is that the time obviously, the
education sector was Kevin

535
00:23:08,700 --> 00:23:12,100
Williamson, Gavin Williamson.
By the way, the guy who recently

536
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:14,900
got sacked from his role, for
being a bully, the guy who got

537
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:18,200
Competitor post and has a
government job somehow despite

538
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,900
being continuously incompetent.
Oh yeah, I got a guy who can

539
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,100
completely messed up?
The algorithms for predicted

540
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:26,100
grades and messed up all the A
Levels as you like it.

541
00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,300
Oh yeah.
I like him.

542
00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:30,000
I like him.
My favorites are my favorite

543
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,600
part about him and this whole
mess was when they sent us back

544
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,000
to school in January 2021, for
one day.

545
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,900
Yeah, you know, Boris Johnson
went on.

546
00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:39,500
Tell you that weekend and said
schools are perfectly placed.

547
00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:41,000
A safe place to kind of say my
words.

548
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,500
I'm so angry schools are
perfectly safe, places for

549
00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:45,200
children.
Should be, there's nobody Don't

550
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,900
you fret?
And we went back for one day and

551
00:23:46,900 --> 00:23:49,200
then he said they're closed for
six weeks because they could be

552
00:23:49,208 --> 00:23:50,600
Vector the bus.
Oh yeah.

553
00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:53,000
So Gavin Williams.
I got ya.

554
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,300
I got ya him, really, really
sound Giza.

555
00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:58,400
Him and Hancock.
Obviously going to back to back

556
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,600
and forth because Hancock's, the
health secretary, but instance,

557
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,100
the education secretary.
And it essentially in the in

558
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,800
these leaked messages, they're
just rinsing teachers.

559
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,900
They're rinsed in any you and
Willie Nelson's point was, Matt

560
00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:13,900
Hancock said, great cracking,
cracking news conference today

561
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:17,700
to Williamson who announced New
thing, the those teaching unions

562
00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,800
really are.
And then use the five letter

563
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,700
word, beginning with a to
describe the teaching unions to

564
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:24,900
which government him.
Some reply guy.

565
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,500
Yeah they are.
They really really really just

566
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:31,300
don't like work basically just
just completely going in and the

567
00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:35,000
fact that the classic stereotype
of yeah teachers just hate work.

568
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:37,800
The guy who's in charge of them,
by the way, the education

569
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,400
secretary, imagine private
messages being there, just

570
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,500
having a pinion that that that's
that wrong.

571
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,900
So rooted out of reality, like
Do you know any teachers that

572
00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:49,300
does he does?
He has he ever seen a teacher or

573
00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:51,800
what their workload?
Well they do.

574
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,800
Like we talked about last time,
it's just absurd to me to think

575
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,100
that any teacher could not want
to do work.

576
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,200
I hate that.
Absolutely.

577
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,400
And and the point the point is
that during this time, by the

578
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,800
way, he was, it was pending
open.

579
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,300
Letters to teachers the
sacrifices, you've made

580
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:09,700
unbelievable, you've worked so
hard, he had this really

581
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:12,100
annoying voice as well.
And that's not relevant, but it

582
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:15,800
really annoyed because I had to
speak and he's really So hot, it

583
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,700
was very nasally.
I still can't even listen to him

584
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:19,200
here.
And now, you know, we know, at

585
00:25:19,208 --> 00:25:21,300
the time, he was lying through
his teeth because he didn't come

586
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:24,100
here to absolutely fake.
And then, the other thing that

587
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,400
they spoke about was Hancock,
they're having a discussion.

588
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,900
Basically, about Williamson
wanted schools to be able to be

589
00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:33,600
provided with PPE.
Basically, like Williamson said,

590
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,700
look, we need me to find a way
for schools to be able to get

591
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,200
people through the central
system for, like, through

592
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,500
government giving PPE.
Not because he cared by the way.

593
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,900
Not because he thought, let's
protect them on the front line,

594
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:47,300
whilst everything else is Is
closed because and I quote, he

595
00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:50,100
said, yeah, it's a last Last
Resort really because they'll

596
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:53,500
just use it as an excuse not to
teach they'll use as an excuse

597
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,300
not to learn if they can't get
their have to pee.

598
00:25:56,900 --> 00:26:00,700
That's that's mad.
And if we get pde new new.

599
00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:02,900
So Hancock's, Hancock's point
was I was trying to get away

600
00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:05,100
from centralized why can't
schools get their own, you know,

601
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:06,000
in the budget.
That's huge.

602
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,400
Why can't school just get their
own from their own budget and

603
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,100
Williamson was saying look you
know he didn't come in like

604
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,800
teachers I'm representing them
they're doing right, you know we

605
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800
need to protect them.
No no it was well you know

606
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,200
they're going to want to close
otherwise aren't they?

607
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,200
So which might Hancock replied
with laughing emojis and an

608
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,300
arrow hitting a bull's-eye as if
so yeah you can spot that you've

609
00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:26,200
got that.
So totally right, we all agree

610
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,200
of this.
And you know what to do?

611
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,000
It's really funny.
Go on.

612
00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:31,300
That's really, really, really
fun.

613
00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:32,300
It's really funny.
All this.

614
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,500
This I'm really, really fine.
Yeah, it's funny.

615
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:38,400
It's funny to tell my voice, how
funny, this is, what's really

616
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,900
funny?
What's really funny about it?

617
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:43,700
I'm gonna say again, is that
during this whole time, by the

618
00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:45,700
way, in other messages that were
leaked, because obviously this

619
00:26:45,708 --> 00:26:48,400
is Matt Hancock's phone.
Matt Hancock was going in on

620
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,300
Kevin Williamson saying that he
is in on another planet.

621
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,900
Thinking skills should stay open
and that schools should actually

622
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:55,600
close.
So he's just pandering.

623
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,700
This is this The government by
the way, this these are the

624
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:02,400
people who are supposed to come
into power with ideology, right?

625
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,200
And you know what is really
evidence from these WhatsApp

626
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,100
messages is how they were just
making decisions on the Fly And

627
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:15,500
what really, really gets to me
is I think in a pandemic, you

628
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:18,800
cannot blame the government for
certain decisions that they have

629
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,300
to make quickly.
But what is really, really

630
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:23,300
evident in these messages is
that the government were

631
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:27,200
completely ignoring scientific
advice, the Government were

632
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,800
playing politics throughout, it
was true in the Care Homes.

633
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,900
The government were advised that
and they said at the time,

634
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:36,100
asymptomatic transmission is a
thing.

635
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,600
And we need to test before we
get these people into Care.

636
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,600
Homes Care, Homes were decimated
because I did bother and they

637
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,400
say it's because a they didn't
know about asymptomatic

638
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,000
transmission, which is a lie.
There's messed is, there is

639
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000
literally recordings of
parliament from March 20, 20 of

640
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,900
them talking about asymptomatic
transmission, and the second one

641
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:55,600
is because they say there wasn't
enough testing capability at the

642
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,400
time, there was much less
Testing, but our we're talking

643
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,100
about priority testing, right?
Do you think maybe the care

644
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:02,900
homes from hospitals to Care
Homes?

645
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:04,400
The most humble people in the
whole country?

646
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,200
Probably should have been the
number one priority, and the

647
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,200
cherry on the cake Hayden.
We didn't have enough tests for

648
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,700
people, going into Care Homes,
to protect our most vulnerable.

649
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:17,600
But at this point, Jacob, Riis
morgue had a test.

650
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000
Specially Courier din for his
daughter, who are covid at the

651
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,400
time classic that just shows the
classes and that doesn't it on

652
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,500
how much money they made as well
out of these contracts because I

653
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,500
always, Just think it's kind of
like, you know, the whole world.

654
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:33,700
All thing we talked about last
time and how big huge powerful

655
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,200
organizations groups of people
can Will pretend to have some

656
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,900
sort of moral High Ground.
When actually, it's just all

657
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:42,800
about money the whole time.
I just, yeah, I just wonder how

658
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,000
much of it like that.
You just you've exposed it?

659
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,600
They were of those messages,
they don't care.

660
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,900
They don't care.
There was no morality there at

661
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:50,100
all.
It was just how much money can

662
00:28:50,108 --> 00:28:51,800
we squeeze out of schools?
How much money can we not?

663
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,600
Give them for these things?
But, but on the surface will be

664
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600
like, oh yeah, the sacrifices,
we're going to get Ep2 schools

665
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,800
and we're going to close it
because we realize it's actually

666
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,500
unsafe after even though we've
been saying it for weeks and

667
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:05,100
weeks, like I hate.
Yeah.

668
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,200
Because I actually think I think
what happened was Boris went on

669
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,400
television on the Saturday and
said, schools are a safe place

670
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,100
to be.
Yeah.

671
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,800
And actually funny enough,
heydon't.

672
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,000
Everything of every single piece
of scientific advice, actually

673
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,200
changed on the Sunday and that's
why they had to close the

674
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,400
schools because, you know,
obviously the science only

675
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,200
realized in that 48 hour period.
That it wasn't that they were

676
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,000
ignoring it up until then, you
know, it was, it was definitely,

677
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,200
it was definitely them listening
to the science.

678
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,400
They To the science all the way
through apart from when they

679
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,000
didn't and it's been horribly
exposed and I think and I'm kind

680
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,400
of rubbing my hands together
here over the next few weeks.

681
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:36,500
I think they'll be more and
more.

682
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:40,200
I will say this, though.
I think some people might say,

683
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,100
oh he's had his.
He said his whatsapp's leaked

684
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,800
and I'd doesn't wash with me
because if it was personal, if

685
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,800
it was just you know chats with
family.

686
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,800
If it was just his own personal
life, I would then feel sorry

687
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,500
for him.
I'd be like look, you know, we

688
00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:56,400
all have our personal life, we
all have our things.

689
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,900
Going on.
That's that is like a different

690
00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:00,800
line.
If you're conducting government

691
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,500
work on your WhatsApp, this this
and and this is opens Freedom of

692
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:07,000
Information because of that this
is absolutely fine.

693
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,500
Heat, you know what he said to
defend himself by the way,

694
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:11,600
Michael Hancock gone?
Yeah, have a guest, have a

695
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,300
guess, what do you think?
He might have said when his

696
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:15,800
literal what's out from his
Ghostwriter who clearly has them

697
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,300
has just released them?
What do you think?

698
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:20,300
He said in response?
Probably just that they were

699
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:22,200
person that they were private
conversations and they shouldn't

700
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,100
been leaks or something like
that?

701
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:24,300
I don't know.
Yeah, that that might have been

702
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:25,700
like a sensible thing to do,
right?

703
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,600
He has tried to They've been
doctored and don't show the true

704
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,500
that they're not true like okay.
Like our context of important no

705
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:34,200
context.
Yeah, exactly.

706
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,200
Because you know, it's a
politician's best friend says no

707
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,500
context when actually.
There's just like an irrefutable

708
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:41,900
statement has been said, yeah.
Is it will there be any

709
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:43,400
contacts?
That would make it so good.

710
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:47,600
Oh, you've given the context now
that you hate teachers.

711
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,600
No problem.
Education secretary crack on

712
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,100
mate, no problem.
Well, I think we should use this

713
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,900
kind of idea of exposing
toxicity and move on to our next

714
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:58,200
section of this Podcast, which
is kind of like you've already

715
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,900
described a very quick summary
is all about just exposing some

716
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:03,900
of those really toxic teams out
there in the country in the

717
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:07,000
world, who make their staffs
lives hell.

718
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,300
Because actually, they don't do
a very good job, they are quite

719
00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:12,000
incompetent, majority of
schools, fantastic.

720
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,400
There is LT out there that I
just do an amazing job.

721
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,700
Majority people are doing that
and we think you're great, but

722
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:19,100
there are some members of SLT
out there including head

723
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:23,500
teachers who do just not deserve
to be in that role because they

724
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:26,000
are not making lives.
Any easier of their staff or

725
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,700
potentially The people's.
Yeah, absolutely.

726
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:31,400
And what's really interesting to
me now that we've got a really

727
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,400
good idea of what an incompetent
leader, looks like for a strong

728
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,200
storm at Hancock, I'm with some,
I think we can go into this.

729
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,200
Now with an idea of actually
it's not just schools.

730
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,500
If you I know a lot of people
listen to this podcast, we don't

731
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:45,000
even work in a school, which I
found Crazy by the way.

732
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,300
But thank you so much for saying
a lot of as Hayden.

733
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:50,400
Always says, why are you here?
But at least a not sure we

734
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,300
doing.
Yeah, carry on.

735
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:58,900
We can all kind of resonate.
With that really annoying, boss,

736
00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:02,900
who just is so out of touch.
And the first thing I wanted to

737
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:06,700
say is what really grinds my
gears about these people is when

738
00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:09,700
they use their position of
power, to literally become a

739
00:32:09,708 --> 00:32:11,900
bully because that is the
definition of bullying.

740
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:16,100
It's an imbalance of power and
putting your position in that in

741
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:19,700
that kind of role as a buff,
someone to just intimidate them

742
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:22,600
and make them think that things
are on and Gaslight them.

743
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,200
But one of the biggest things
that I've noticed in schools is

744
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,800
When SLT or people in charge
just lie, they just light and

745
00:32:31,808 --> 00:32:33,900
get something for and hope.
No one will say anything.

746
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:36,700
You know, I there's one example,
one story because obviously

747
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:38,000
we've asked people for different
stories.

748
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,300
We've had loads in.
So we're going to kind of just

749
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:42,700
drawn the all of them rather
than have just a feature and

750
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:46,200
we'll talk discuss them.
Just just want one of them was

751
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,600
simply telling a part-time
member of Staff.

752
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,500
Who works Monday to Wednesday
ofsted came in.

753
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,300
It was Thursday.
You'd think that the reaction

754
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:56,200
might be are offset of coming
in.

755
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:58,000
Would you mind coming in for
some overtime?

756
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,500
Will give you a day in lieu will
pay you.

757
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:05,000
You know can you asking them?
No no they said you must come

758
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,100
in.
It's the rule you have to be in

759
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,300
offset of here.
See you tomorrow.

760
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,100
Can you imagine doing that?
Yeah, yeah I can imagine people

761
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:13,900
doing it but it's just
completely wrong what you said.

762
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:18,700
And people will they'll be you
know, if that head is quite also

763
00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:21,100
are looking for like, just
overbearing perhaps with the way

764
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:24,200
they talk you might be
intimidated and be like, okay,

765
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,200
and just not question it because
it's not worth it, they'll make

766
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,800
your life.
If you question it and you just

767
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,800
do it, it's just not, right?
Is it?

768
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,500
It's just toxic.
It's an absolutely toxic

769
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:35,300
environment where people can say
that kind of thing, and they

770
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:36,800
don't even feel like they can be
questioned.

771
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,600
My question is to these people
who holds them accountable, you

772
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,000
know, it does schools where they
make staffs life, a misery if

773
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
something's not quite what they
think it should be, they'll

774
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,700
observe them every two weeks,
they're in the classroom walking

775
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,400
around telling you should have
done this, you should have done

776
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,300
that.
Undermining, the people who

777
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:55,500
actually are with the children
every single day actually

778
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:58,200
delivering the lessons.
One who holds them accountable

779
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:02,000
for giving the feedback what
I've had to feed a row before.

780
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,100
Maybe you've had the same Hayden
where I fundamentally disagree

781
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:08,600
with them or they've been wrong.
I've been told before how to use

782
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,600
a certain grammatical clause and
the way I taught it was wrong

783
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,600
when it was actually correct.
These people in, you say to

784
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,500
that, they've got it wrong.
Well, I've I mean talking about

785
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:20,100
toxic management.
You just I'm off on one.

786
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,199
Now my head here thinking of
memories and how I've worked in

787
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,500
a Skype is a few schools.
I've worked in a school before.

788
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:28,800
Well, I did think the management
got really toxic and I left

789
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,100
that's why I left.
I didn't like working there

790
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,600
anymore and one of the things
they did which is the main

791
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,000
reason I left was that it just
they mistreated staff.

792
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:39,199
Once they want to get rid of
them once he didn't fit anymore

793
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,600
you know and it was often it was
it was often oldest after I've

794
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,400
been there for a long time.
Once you didn't expensive stuff,

795
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:47,400
expensive stuff at the exactly
that.

796
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:50,100
Yeah, they just their way of
getting rid of them was just a

797
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:52,199
let's just bully them.
Let's just reduce them to tears

798
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,000
on a regular basis.
What we'll do is we'll go in,

799
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,500
will watch that lessons.
The portion Italy so that they

800
00:34:57,500 --> 00:35:00,000
feel like oh why am I being
watched all the time and every

801
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,200
single lesson they do will tell
them?

802
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,300
It was absolutely terrible and I
have to be observed, terrible.

803
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:06,500
Terrible table doesn't matter
they've been teaching 25 years.

804
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:08,300
That was the worst thing I've
ever seen.

805
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,600
Make them cry and then just do
it.

806
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,700
Rinse and repeat week after week
after week and then they quit

807
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
and it worked.
But if they don't quit what they

808
00:35:17,008 --> 00:35:22,100
did was because I also worked in
the school, they would move the

809
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,700
teacher every single year.
So if they manage to get through

810
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:27,900
here, And I thought okay, you
know, I've got three or four

811
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:29,600
years until retirement.
Let's just get through this,

812
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,300
they'll move them.
The next year to a different

813
00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:32,600
year group.
And then if they got through

814
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,900
that year they'll move them
again.

815
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,300
They will just do every single
trick in the book to not give

816
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:40,100
the people, the respect, they
deserve these women who have put

817
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:43,200
their lives into the education
system who grown adults would

818
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,000
walk past them in the street
stop and be thankful for what

819
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,600
they've given them in the
classroom.

820
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:50,100
No, no, it's okay because the
CEO is in.

821
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,000
When did when did schools get
CEOs by the way?

822
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,600
Sorry, are we in London?
Are we in?

823
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,200
Are we in the city?
Doing a financial Trade, what's

824
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,100
the CEO doing?
Walking in telling me how to

825
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:02,100
teach, how many times did the
CEO taught and they in the

826
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,500
classroom at all and they're
coming.

827
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:06,700
I actually know because what we
said was actually the first five

828
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:07,700
minutes.
We should be doing quite

829
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:09,400
independent reading.
And for the next three minutes,

830
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,800
the children should be doing
their books.

831
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,500
You actually were doing it for 4
minutes.

832
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:14,700
So I'm going to come and
reinsert and it's and I've

833
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:16,400
noticed in your book.
There was only seven peer

834
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,000
assessments when I should have
been five self-assessments and

835
00:36:19,008 --> 00:36:21,700
three peer assessments.
So actually, that's not good

836
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:23,300
enough.
They all that stuff, I

837
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:25,200
absolutely hate.
I'm just saying around going to

838
00:36:25,207 --> 00:36:28,200
rant.
Tick box, tick box exercises,

839
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,000
where you get this idea from
ofsted of what they want to see.

840
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,300
And you just put it into a
checklist and you're like, okay,

841
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,500
everyone's books need to have
these things in them.

842
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:38,300
Every lesson has to have these
things in them, but what if my

843
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:39,400
kids don't know, it doesn't
matter.

844
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:41,800
The pedagogy doesn't matter.
It's not about the kids.

845
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,100
It is about taking these boxes
that is more important than

846
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:48,300
actually, you know, bespoke
situations where you might go

847
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:50,200
off on a tangent and teach these
children a different way because

848
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,000
you recognize, that's what they
need.

849
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,400
They don't need that
self-assessment sticker right

850
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,900
now, I remember this.
One example is exactly this.

851
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:57,900
Ray makes you laugh when you
worked in this school together

852
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:02,400
and we had two stickers for
marking for everything.

853
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,400
I'd stick a success criteria and
it seemed like every time there

854
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,600
was a new staff meeting which
ended up at the end being.

855
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,800
Okay.
So we're going to have stickers

856
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,000
for this in every lesson.
So it would start off with

857
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Landing objective would have its
own sticker.

858
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:16,900
Success criteria would have its
own sticker.

859
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:20,000
So we've wanted to obsess too.
Then we had to have a sticker of

860
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,300
orange and green depending on
how the children got on.

861
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,500
So we Mark the work and then
sticking orange.

862
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:27,400
If that wasn't wasn't You know,
they didn't get the objective

863
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,700
green if we felt like they were
secure, so that's 2.

864
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:32,200
Then the next lesson had to
start with the green pen

865
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,900
question, which was on another
sticker.

866
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:37,700
So that's four stickers for one
lesson right now then three

867
00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:39,500
times it was it three times a
week.

868
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,700
We had to do a peer assessment,
which was another sticker.

869
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:44,600
So, in one lesson so far, by the
way, there's twice, as many

870
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,900
stickers as there is work in the
book but it's okay because it's

871
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:48,800
what we have to do because
that's what we do, isn't it?

872
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,900
We have to have stickers in the
book that's five stickers.

873
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:54,900
And I'll always remember got to
the point where we then had a

874
00:37:54,908 --> 00:37:57,100
staff meeting and it was
Involvement and the idea of

875
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,800
involvement you love it.
Already the idea of helping

876
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:03,600
involvement was basically how
involved the children.

877
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,700
The lesson is your pitch,
correct.

878
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,100
So that it's not too easy that
their board but it's not too

879
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,600
difficult that they can't be
engaged.

880
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:13,100
So it's about it was basically a
very Posh we're saying pitch.

881
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,000
It was like a really long way of
telling experienced staff

882
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,400
members.
Your children should be engaged

883
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,600
in the lessons.
I thank you, thanks for that.

884
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,100
So what came out of that was to
show that we're worried about

885
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,900
involvement, you know, in case
the big old came in because

886
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,200
that's the most important thing.
Obviously, in every single

887
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,900
lesson we had to put another
sticker in and the children at

888
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:35,600
the end would have to Circle 025
for how involved they felt they

889
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,600
were.
So rubbish, wasn't it V?

890
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,900
I thought they were who was
observing them at the end?

891
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:45,700
They had to go.
That's over. 550 a diva fives or

892
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,400
zeros, that was it.
No one was ever for everyone

893
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:50,300
because I never pulled up about
it.

894
00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:55,700
Remember Trevor, we made that
she, we made it, we were so,

895
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Just sick of all this rubbish.
We will find out we're trying to

896
00:38:58,607 --> 00:39:00,800
make a point which are which I
have a laugh at it.

897
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Ironically got lots of because
it did all the right things but

898
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,700
we made this because because
they liked it, they liked it, I

899
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:07,800
remember they saw it.
Wow, that's good.

900
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,400
And we were like this is a joke.
So like sometimes it's one of

901
00:39:11,408 --> 00:39:12,800
those lessons where you take
pictures and stuff.

902
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,700
So we kind of made this nice
like we used to just make this

903
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,000
little sheets where you put like
a compilation of pictures on

904
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,400
there and sticking a book.
It was nice for them.

905
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,000
You know, we will do so because
they weren't they wouldn't have

906
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,000
done any work in their book,
right?

907
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,600
So the idea was that it should
evidencing that we did work.

908
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,200
That was that less, you know,
and so on this Sheet.

909
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,100
We put we snipped in all the
stickers.

910
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,300
It was all in one and it had the
learning objective, the success

911
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:33,600
criteria.
It had the green pen question.

912
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,900
It had the marking for you back
at the bottom and then they had

913
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:38,000
the involvement stick and I'm
sure there was something else as

914
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000
well, there was a box, there was
a box for self-assessment.

915
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,100
We put the box, and it just, and
there's like one picture because

916
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:48,900
it was this junk just took up
the whole sheet and it was just

917
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:51,300
to make a point of why are we
doing all this rubbish?

918
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:54,700
Like it just takes so much time
and it's unnecessary, and it

919
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:57,100
doesn't improve learning and You
know, surprise surprise.

920
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,500
I'm sure it's all been scrapped
by now, because none of it was

921
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:01,800
remotely rooted in.
This is actually good for the

922
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,100
children.
It was just what to offset point

923
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:06,500
of the moment.
Let's take that box and and not

924
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,400
on take another box, which we've
been doing for ages.

925
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,300
Like, it's that classic thing or
another thing and this thing,

926
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:12,900
and that thing, another thing
I'll always remember because

927
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:16,100
the, the feedback stickers, the
orangery feedback stickers

928
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,200
again, Hayden.
And I, we just got to put, we

929
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,800
were just we knew we were
leaving.

930
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,600
We knew we were going, we don't
want be in the school anymore.

931
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,800
And all the feedback stickers
would be half like a generic.

932
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:29,200
Statement, well done, you have
managed to divide using short

933
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,300
division, whatever it is and
there was always a picture at

934
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:33,800
the top and it's just like a
smiley face or you know, like

935
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,500
something related a nice
picture.

936
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:38,100
So yeah, like a like I dition
symbol of adding additional

937
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:40,900
something that we'd find and
waste our time doing when we

938
00:40:40,908 --> 00:40:43,200
plan.
So Hayden, I like call.

939
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,100
Well if we've got to do this
we're just going to absolutely

940
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:48,500
take the Mick and we ended up
just picking random pictures.

941
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:52,200
We have like cartoon characters
and the absolute peak one and I

942
00:40:52,207 --> 00:40:54,200
hope one day there are some
children.

943
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,800
I taught a few years ago, it was
They'll be in secondary school

944
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,200
now, maybe even leaving who look
back at their old math books,

945
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,800
open up one day, and they'll see
a green sticker saying.

946
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:09,300
Well, done with David Brent so
bad, but it's so funny.

947
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:18,300
Oh man, the guy in a thumbs up,
he's like really well done in

948
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:20,600
this case to go through negative
numbers.

949
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,300
Wait it was just a joke, wasn't
it?

950
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,100
I enjoy this moment for the
whole, the whole cast of The

951
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,600
Pooh.
Over a couple of weeks, they all

952
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,100
cast, made it on their little
pictures of completely

953
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,200
irrelevant, because the whole
thing was relevant, none of the

954
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,200
children even looked at it.
Anyway, exactly what enjoyed it.

955
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,000
That was the point.
I could have put a picture of

956
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
you on there.
They would have just really been

957
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000
looked at it course they do.
So I've just got sorry.

958
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaking of pictures of you.
This is really funny because it

959
00:41:45,008 --> 00:41:46,700
happened yesterday and I totally
forgot to tell you.

960
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,100
So oh God I got right there is
this it is this for now or

961
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:53,400
should we say before our stories
later?

962
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,600
I'll go and save over the story.
Save others.

963
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,800
Okay.
Okay, I say for the story.

964
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,600
So guys, this means and Hayden
up and down is about engagement

965
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,300
and retention.
Okay, this is how we do it

966
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:02,800
apparently.
So yeah, don't tell you guys

967
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,800
listening, obviously, this is
how we do it.

968
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,500
We say we're going to do
something at the end than the

969
00:42:06,508 --> 00:42:09,100
current listening, so we're
gonna do the end.

970
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:11,800
Okay?
Alright, so I'm going to give

971
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,000
you some quick fire.
Now, some stories that I got

972
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,700
from people about toxic
management.

973
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:18,800
Okay?
So let's just see if you've

974
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,000
experienced this, or what your
initial thoughts, are you've not

975
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,900
seen these, okay?
Number one, being expected.

976
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,600
To cover wet lunch and break
time if it's raining and just

977
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,200
not getting a break, there's the
rub.

978
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,000
I have experienced it and I and
not a long time to fair, but I

979
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,900
do know of some friends who work
at a school where they have to

980
00:42:38,908 --> 00:42:43,400
go and break duty every day.
I'm not even joking every day

981
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,900
and they don't get a break, and
that's just expected.

982
00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:48,500
And I'm like, okay, that's not
and they're like, no, they found

983
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:49,600
a clause, they found a way
around it.

984
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,600
Like there's the amount of hours
before lunch is, like, just the

985
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,600
exact amount and they can just
not give us a break.

986
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,200
So we're on break Judy every
single day, that's crazy.

987
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,000
And there's sometimes, I've
heard stories of people on that

988
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,200
shootie, it's like lunch is not
directly time.

989
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:02,100
Not going to direct the time.
I think we can get.

990
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:04,000
I think we should do a whole
podcast by the way, on director

991
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,700
time, I recommend affiliate.
Yeah, let's move on to the next

992
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:08,800
one.
This one is just unbelievable

993
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,000
being called at 12:00 roughly on
a sick day so that they could

994
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,400
check up and see if you can
still come in.

995
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:17,800
What what been called for the
next day, it's coming in that no

996
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,300
nothing that day to say, hey how
you feeling?

997
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:21,500
Jack can you come in for the
afternoon?

998
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,800
No, can you believe that?
That's ludicrous, like and I

999
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,000
just know that that SLT member,
which is wouldn't have thought

1000
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,200
that through.
They wouldn't have thought that

1001
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,400
through That's what that's
actually objectively terrible

1002
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:34,100
and just it's blinkers.
Sick.

1003
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,500
They've got a problem.
They've got blinkers on the

1004
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:39,000
like, okay, this is the way I
can solve it if you come in like

1005
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,700
you've called on a sick, leave
them alone.

1006
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:43,600
Do not call them.
Okay.

1007
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,300
Another one gone directed time
so this is this is links

1008
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:49,400
director time.
We will do a whole one three

1009
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,300
meetings a week after school
which they have to go to.

1010
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:54,500
It's not a choice, three
meetings a week after school for

1011
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:59,800
an hour plus very often meeting
scheduled in PPA where misleads

1012
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,000
English seeds.
We'll come along and and look at

1013
00:44:02,008 --> 00:44:03,700
their planning and tell them
what to do which takes up the

1014
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:07,800
whole PPA it.
I just yeah I just know.

1015
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,100
I know that they'll have some
comment.

1016
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:11,400
Ready.
Do you know if you talk dirty

1017
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,600
like you call them out and about
it?

1018
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,700
No no actually the hours add up
and they'll just find some

1019
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:18,800
should be able to add up to you.
But I'm like just think for a

1020
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,400
second though about your actual
teachers as human beings?

1021
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:25,500
Like do you think that you
should ignore the fact that they

1022
00:44:25,508 --> 00:44:27,600
have to do hours of marking
every day for free?

1023
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,900
By the way?
Because it's never in directed

1024
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:32,400
time but it's not acceptable.
Just half of empathy compassion

1025
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,500
for these people, but actually,
maybe we shouldn't do three

1026
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:37,000
meetings this week because they
have got marketing every single

1027
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,000
day.
And they've got a plan a lesson

1028
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,500
to the weekend.
Like, I just hate it, I hate it

1029
00:44:40,508 --> 00:44:43,600
when they're there, by the book,
One Way, the teams they do this,

1030
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,700
I said to do this.
Yeah, always totally by the book

1031
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:48,200
this way, but there's no leeway
the other way though.

1032
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,200
You know, I mean there's like,
is fine this way.

1033
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,500
Yeah, give us much time here
whereby.

1034
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:53,200
Yeah, you got to work the exact
hours.

1035
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,500
The weird.
I know what to do, because of,

1036
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:57,700
because of that, our policies
and things were really buy the

1037
00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:59,200
book when it comes to you doing
it for us.

1038
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:01,600
We have want to give anything
about that.

1039
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,700
Stretch it.
Let's not talk about statutory,

1040
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:07,000
shall we?
Let's have a think about that.

1041
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,700
And the big thing for me is PPA.
I detest anyone ever trying to

1042
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:13,700
direct my PBA.
That is my time.

1043
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:16,900
I'm entitled to, to get my stuff
ready to get ahead.

1044
00:45:16,900 --> 00:45:18,800
It doesn't scratch the surface
of the jobs.

1045
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,300
I've got to do.
If anyone ever tried to put a

1046
00:45:21,308 --> 00:45:25,300
meeting in my PPA, I would
absolutely give them a piece of

1047
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:29,600
my mind Hayden or using PVA, as
annexed as an excuse, if you're

1048
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,900
like a steak.
Haven't you seen?

1049
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,100
You're struggling right?
You below.

1050
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:34,000
I'm just not getting this stuff
down there so I don't need to be

1051
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,500
a you've got your peepee a I've
not have not been able to plan a

1052
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:39,100
lesson so I don't do it the
weekend until he PA as if it is

1053
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:41,200
like this token, small amount of
time is enough time to get

1054
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:43,500
literally anything done.
I don't know any teacher that

1055
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:45,200
actually.
I mean, I'm sure I do but most

1056
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,600
teachers I find just use PPA to
get marking down a bit earlier

1057
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,300
for one day, a week, maybe not
go home at 5:30 6:00 p.m. and

1058
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:55,100
potentially plan like one or two
lessons.

1059
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:56,800
You're not getting a whole week.
I lessons planned.

1060
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,200
Every PPA getting your marking
that.

1061
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,900
It's just it's just ridiculous.
It It happen.

1062
00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:03,500
Here's a good one because this
isn't actually this doesn't have

1063
00:46:03,508 --> 00:46:06,000
to present this toxic at all and
I wouldn't say anyone who does

1064
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,500
this is next to it necessarily
being horrible but it does lead

1065
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:14,400
into the culture SLT walking
around after school, saying,

1066
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,400
just go home.
That's such a classic thing, I

1067
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,500
know what you mean because I
have experienced it from so many

1068
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:23,700
people who I love li who I like
I respect.

1069
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:26,100
And I do have a bad word to say
about them but they would they

1070
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:28,500
would say that sort of thing and
I've probably done it as well.

1071
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:30,300
I'm sure I've done it to people
at stop.

1072
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:32,400
I just go home and come on your
neck, it go home.

1073
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,300
I stupid because that yeah,
okay, I'll just go home and do

1074
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,800
this work when it's expected.
Do I have to get this marked?

1075
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,800
Yes.
Okay.

1076
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:42,900
Can I not mark it?
No.

1077
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,700
Okay, so I can't go home then.
Can I what you're talking about?

1078
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,300
Just go home.
Oh, I do it.

1079
00:46:47,308 --> 00:46:49,600
We'll do it in the morning.
It's kind of the same.

1080
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,900
Logic is the whole PPA thing
because quite often, people will

1081
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:54,700
get meeting scheduled in their
PPA, right?

1082
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:56,900
Maybe they're meeting with
parents for some reason or

1083
00:46:57,100 --> 00:46:59,100
there's an e HC P to go through
this.

1084
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,500
Yes, you have to have me.
Eating's in school that has to

1085
00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:02,400
happen, right?
Yeah.

1086
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,600
And and you know, if they get
scheduling your PPA that's

1087
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,000
really annoying and I would
absolutely like no, I'm not

1088
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,100
doing it with PPA.
So cool that has to happen

1089
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:11,100
though.
That meeting has to happen so

1090
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:13,700
that, our of my time is being
taken up.

1091
00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:16,300
So actually, sometimes people
might prefer in their PPA, but

1092
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:18,200
the point is, I've still lost an
hour.

1093
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:21,400
It's still got to go somewhere.
Like, there's no like, oh, I've

1094
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,000
got, I've got this, I've got
people progress this week, you

1095
00:47:25,008 --> 00:47:26,500
know, in our school, we get
time.

1096
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:29,600
Booked out from, from this, the
timetable to go and do them as

1097
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,900
it should be.
Some schools.

1098
00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:32,800
Do they do at lunchtime?
They do APPA.

1099
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,000
Is that cool?
Well, I know that's Tech that's

1100
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,500
technically free time.
Sure.

1101
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:39,200
But it's got to happen at some
point and actually doesn't

1102
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,700
really matter it's PPA or not
because it's still an hour less

1103
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:45,700
to go and do your job, which
you've got loads to do outside

1104
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:49,300
of it anyway, indirect and
direct time, is that the phrase?

1105
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:51,900
I'm going to start coining now
and use that because it isn't

1106
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:53,200
it.
Like we said, if you're

1107
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,800
absolutely right, if you've got
a doing it, if that meeting

1108
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,000
takes an hour, right?
It doesn't matter when you put,

1109
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,100
where you put it, it's still an
hour extra them than what you're

1110
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:00,200
going to do.
And if you're being told you

1111
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,800
Have to do it that you're being
directed to do it and if it's

1112
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,700
not been put in your director
time, it's going somewhere that

1113
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:08,600
else like in your PP a or in
your after school or something,

1114
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,300
it's their direct you to do it
simple as that they go, they

1115
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:13,600
breach of contract, you've done
more hours and you're paid for

1116
00:48:13,700 --> 00:48:16,800
another hour of free work and it
does grind your gears, but we'll

1117
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,700
do a whole episode lady said
about director time because

1118
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:20,600
that's a, that's a big topic.
Okay?

1119
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,800
Last one, which I find really
interesting having worked in a

1120
00:48:22,808 --> 00:48:25,600
school that does does this, and
I didn't like it.

1121
00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:28,100
And I now work in a school that
doesn't, and I think it's much

1122
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:32,100
better overall.
It's a very simple, one parents

1123
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:34,700
having direct access to emails
and having to reply to them,

1124
00:48:34,700 --> 00:48:38,500
within 24 hours.
Oh, yeah, it's weird because,

1125
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,100
yeah, I've been at schools where
that is a thing and schools, but

1126
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:42,700
that's not a thing.
Sometimes goes for the office,

1127
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:44,000
sometimes it goes, direct to
you.

1128
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,300
Sometimes it don't go to you at
all.

1129
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:48,500
So it's really different.
My gut feeling is when I was,

1130
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:51,600
when I was in the position where
I was directly, many parents I

1131
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,500
didn't mind, but in retrospect,
I just, I look at that.

1132
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:59,500
I think that I can't believe I
did that because it's, it took

1133
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:04,000
up so much Much time.
And when I found that when they

1134
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,900
have direct access to you, they
asked a lot more stuff and take

1135
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:09,400
up a lot of time with really
genuinely unnecessary questions.

1136
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,000
Like why is, why are we the why
they're learning about this

1137
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,300
shape in math today?
So I have a, what do I read as a

1138
00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:18,500
professional?
Do I really have to now spend

1139
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:21,200
some time like typing you the
years experience I have about

1140
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,500
how the curriculum works like is
that is that appropriate?

1141
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,500
So I much prefer.
Now, having a system where the

1142
00:49:27,508 --> 00:49:28,900
parents have request.
It's absolutely fine.

1143
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:30,200
I'm happy to talk to about
always.

1144
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,100
It's all right.
Yeah, of course, is they can

1145
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:35,800
talk to end of the day, they can
ring through the office.

1146
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,800
If it's urgent and I will pick
up the phone and I'll talk to

1147
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,300
them, or they can email the
office and it will get to me,

1148
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,900
you don't need this.
There's there's systems there

1149
00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:43,800
that I think should be in place
for every school now.

1150
00:49:44,300 --> 00:49:46,800
I think Hayden what you're
falling into the Trap of here is

1151
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,300
exactly what Kevin Williamson
said.

1152
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:50,400
You just trying to avoid work.
You just really, really, really

1153
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,100
don't like work and so I just as
Matt Hancock pulls back, the bow

1154
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:56,500
and arrow to hit the bullseye
saying he agrees with him.

1155
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,000
Oh God, put the bow down.
I'm off time.

1156
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,300
Celebra six weeks.
Yeah, yeah.

1157
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,600
No, but he is working hard, I'm
as I've represented the

1158
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,200
government, okay?
He's trying to show them a

1159
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,700
better light.
Oh yes, sorry.

1160
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:10,200
He did it to raise awareness for
dyslexia, that was it.

1161
00:50:10,300 --> 00:50:12,300
And he was going to get the
money from he's gonna get the

1162
00:50:12,308 --> 00:50:15,000
money from his feet to the
dyslexia Charities of which he

1163
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,100
actually end up giving 10%.
Oh yeah.

1164
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:19,400
That was yeah, he's best friends
with Marcus Rushford.

1165
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,100
Now I think you know that
they're working together and all

1166
00:50:22,107 --> 00:50:25,800
these like really Ultra.
Do you remember that time where

1167
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:28,800
the government couldn't feed our
kids and then a footballer did

1168
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,300
instead.
Yeah.

1169
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:32,900
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I was interested and they

1170
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:34,700
still tried to take the moral
High Ground, eventually it's

1171
00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:36,300
coming around his side.
Like it was that decision.

1172
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:38,000
Yeah.
Actually it is, you know,

1173
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,300
morally?
We should do this thing that

1174
00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:41,700
you're only doing it because you
got called out by someone with

1175
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:44,000
more followers than you have as
a government.

1176
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:48,600
Okay?
So we had, we had, those are

1177
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,100
kind of small fry, they'll
niggles that we don't like, but

1178
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:55,200
I wanted to go into some horror
stories that we've heard now

1179
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,000
from SLT.
I've got this story, okay, so

1180
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,700
I'm going to tell you, I'm going
To tell you this, this story,

1181
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:05,300
that is genuinely real and I
think it's the worst one.

1182
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:09,000
I've seen in a long time and
then I know I asked, you came up

1183
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,400
with rather this game, this game
for us to play you've got and

1184
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,100
you can explain it after.
So, I'm going to do this one.

1185
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:16,700
Last one, I'm going to play our
game, real honor.

1186
00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:20,000
Roll, go on.
Okay, so excuse me, this one.

1187
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,000
This is real.
I want to say it one more time,

1188
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,300
guys.
You listening at home.

1189
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,500
This is a thing that a CEO when
I we've heard that word before.

1190
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:32,500
That's right.
Schools have CEOs now, CEO and

1191
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:36,000
ahead sent an email to everyone
and said this, you ready?

1192
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,300
Cool.
If you are caught using your

1193
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,900
chair, during teaching time, it
will be taken off you.

1194
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:50,900
That's not real.
That is 100 were descent word

1195
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:55,200
like that.
If you are caught caught caught,

1196
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,100
not seen caught, you know, like
stealing.

1197
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,300
It's just as bad as I
apparently, if you are caught

1198
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:03,700
using your chair during teaching
time, whether that is, I don't

1199
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:06,100
know, isn't that just all day?
What you're talking about,

1200
00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:09,900
you're caught using your chair
and teachers and teaching time

1201
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,800
it will be taken off you.
Who do they think they are

1202
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,300
talking to?
I I personally love it.

1203
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,200
When adults talk to other
members of Staff, like, they're

1204
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,500
four years old, and treat them
like children, and I love that,

1205
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:24,200
it makes, it makes them feel
really good.

1206
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,200
And it improves our well-being.
I can't believe that like, I

1207
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,800
understand a so annoying because
it's like, it just goes from

1208
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,300
zero to 100 real quick.
I know there is a scale here of

1209
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:35,900
if there was a teacher sat on
their chair, sat at their desk,

1210
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:38,000
not looking at the children, who
all just doing a task out of a

1211
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,500
book, of course.
That's terrible.

1212
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:42,000
That's not good teaching.
That's bad pedagogy, right?

1213
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:46,500
But that is not the same as you
spend. 42nd sat on a chair cause

1214
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:48,600
you're playing a video while
still children are watching it

1215
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,700
or you sat down because you want
to do it independent writing and

1216
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:53,200
you realized that when you're
walking around they just

1217
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,700
constantly.
If you're behind them that it

1218
00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:56,100
back.
They want your help and you just

1219
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:57,400
take that step back for a
second.

1220
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,700
You sit there You.
Observe, and I'm watching, I'm

1221
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:00,900
thinking like that tables
working.

1222
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:03,000
Well, they're getting on and
they're not asking too many

1223
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,400
questions now because it needs
to be independent.

1224
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,300
This writing, there are reasons
that you use your chair as a

1225
00:53:07,308 --> 00:53:10,100
tool.
It's not always, I'm a lazy

1226
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:12,300
teacher and my name is Kevin
Williamson and I don't

1227
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:16,500
understand, you know, it's not
not, you know, I mean it I hate

1228
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:19,500
it and it's just so belittling
and degrading.

1229
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,300
I'm actually really impressed
with how you've responded to

1230
00:53:21,300 --> 00:53:23,600
that with some actual reasons
because you're right is about

1231
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,100
pedagogy.
You can bring yourself to the

1232
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:27,000
children's level.
Sometimes you might be working

1233
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,500
with a group quietly, you might
just want to sit down Hayden.

1234
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:34,800
You might just fancy sitting
down because my first sport.

1235
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:38,200
Yeah, my first thought was not.
Oh I wonder what the pedagogy is

1236
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,000
between.
My first thought was, don't you

1237
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,900
dare talk to me like that and
now out of spite I'm going to

1238
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:44,400
teach the whole lesson
something.

1239
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,200
Wait around on the wheel around
in my chair, like I'm go to the

1240
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,400
board.
I'm gonna be awkward lie.

1241
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,600
Just wheel between make him kiss
me that tables.

1242
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,500
We also about to talk to that
kid.

1243
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,300
Yeah, absolutely.
I do agree with that, by the

1244
00:53:55,300 --> 00:53:56,500
way, as well.
I was trying to think of her,

1245
00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:59,300
like a, like, the the argument
for, I don't want anyone to

1246
00:53:59,308 --> 00:54:00,500
think.
Yeah, we all just sit on our

1247
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:02,300
chairs and teach and don't
really interact.

1248
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:04,900
The kids at all, because I get
that argument, but you're right

1249
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,800
also, I've been stand up for
three hours.

1250
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:09,500
I've been on, Bray Duty, I
taught maths this morning, I

1251
00:54:09,508 --> 00:54:11,400
taught English.
I've been stand up for three

1252
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,200
hours.
I just want to sit down for 20

1253
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,300
seconds, so my feet stop.
Hurting and then I'll carry on,

1254
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:19,100
you know, it's not a problem and
the first and if they imagine,

1255
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:22,600
they're salty walking in there
and be like, Oh, stand up whole

1256
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,300
class stopping like this.
Look at you thinking, you're in

1257
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:26,400
trouble.
Now with the head teacher stand

1258
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,800
up, right?
Taking that away from you,

1259
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:31,400
honestly, you've been naughty
and then imagine there are just

1260
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,500
embarrassment of you, mr.
And mrs.

1261
00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:35,200
Stevens, why don't you have your
chair anymore?

1262
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,700
Oh, that head teacher, took it
away from me because I'll see

1263
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:41,000
you swing on it.
We've seen your sweet backwards

1264
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,700
and nearly hit your head.
No mate.

1265
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:44,800
I just sat down for two minutes.
Oh no.

1266
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,800
Because I like the idea of this
school, you know, that kind of

1267
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,500
like you're teaching and you,
literally, you go to put your

1268
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:54,800
bum on the chair and, you know,
your cheek just touches, just

1269
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,600
brushes, the fabric of your
chair, Gavin Williamson puts his

1270
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,400
head around the corner.
But ladies it gave off that,

1271
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:07,000
don't teach the yeah, that's,
that's horrible and I'm going to

1272
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,700
move on because I've now got a
little game for you to play.

1273
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:12,600
Okay, so the game is this.
I'm just going to read to you

1274
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:18,300
two things, right about.
Out about toxic SLT one of

1275
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:19,200
those.
Real one of them is not.

1276
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,600
That's it simple.
As that your guess which ones

1277
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,800
real right got it going right to
see what is that is the real one

1278
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,200
that you did a fart drop and go
Mission?

1279
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,100
That's it.
Last week's game.

1280
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:30,300
Girl is, of course, if you're
here that came about me farting

1281
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:31,700
in classrooms, but I know you'll
do.

1282
00:55:31,700 --> 00:55:34,900
Here we go ready, first first
scenario, and it's first-person.

1283
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:37,800
Alright, so some people, I'd
appreciate some feedback how

1284
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,900
many CT and a solo parent.
I was told that my parental

1285
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:43,600
leave will not be paid while
caring for my daughter because

1286
00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:47,600
last Academic Year whilst The TA
I had four days related to child

1287
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,100
care, /, child sickness side, a
little bit of time off the.

1288
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:53,300
Sent me an email saying that
it's up to their discretion.

1289
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:55,600
This the line whether they will
pay me or not you go.

1290
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,800
That's the first thing you
mentioned was that they're salty

1291
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,100
line, I've accepted this and I
can understand that if I'm not

1292
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:02,800
there to teach then maybe I
shouldn't get paid.

1293
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,500
Okay, whatever.
My question is, am I still

1294
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,000
required to provide all the
planning and resourcing despite

1295
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,100
not despite being off and not
being paid to expect a tilted

1296
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,600
from home?
They didn't come home whilst not

1297
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,300
being paid, does that sound.
Right?

1298
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,900
What's the question?
Can I, if this is real, then I

1299
00:56:20,908 --> 00:56:23,300
don't know what to say, like
this.

1300
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:25,900
What what, what save it?
You save it because I got

1301
00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:27,600
another one.
Okay, not this must be shorter.

1302
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:30,100
All right, all right, all right,
advice please.

1303
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:33,000
I had teacher has asked for
remote learning to be put on

1304
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,500
class teams page before Tuesday,
evening ahead of strike day on

1305
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:40,100
Wednesday for the strike.
I know they've asked the

1306
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:43,600
teachers that are striking to
plan lessons for lessons

1307
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,200
resource, put Team so that the
kids at home can do it like in

1308
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,200
lockdown, you know, honest right
day.

1309
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,500
Am I right in thinking that we
should not be doing this as we

1310
00:56:51,508 --> 00:56:53,400
do need to confirm.
Whether we were in Striking or

1311
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,800
not in the first place and we
should really be setting work

1312
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:58,100
when bright they're striking.
Okay.

1313
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:01,800
I reckon I can I how can I one
of them's?

1314
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,500
Not.
Okay.

1315
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:05,900
Let's think about this.
What I think you could have made

1316
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:08,300
up the strike one more easily
because the Sharks happening and

1317
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:09,800
stuff and we had that
discussions.

1318
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,100
So I'm going to say that's not
real and unbelievably.

1319
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,600
The first one about Them
expecting you to work on a day

1320
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,400
off, on paid to care for your
sick child.

1321
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,500
By the way, not just like you
having the day off and you're

1322
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:22,800
not getting paid.
You're caring for your sick

1323
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,200
child and therefore being
unpaid.

1324
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,800
But you also need to do work
that day unbelievably.

1325
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:27,900
I'm going to say that one's
true.

1326
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:29,000
So you're locking in your
answer.

1327
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,600
First one is true.
Second one's not true on.

1328
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,700
Yeah, I think you made up the
strike one, because it's so well

1329
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:34,700
known that you absolutely are
with.

1330
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,600
That's the idea of a strike.
You withdraw, your labor.

1331
00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:38,600
How am I going to?
You're not going to withdraw

1332
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,500
your labor, to make sure that
what you're withdrawing can

1333
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,400
carry on without you.
Yeah, that's just what SLT

1334
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,800
member would ever in the in the
recent weeks.

1335
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:47,200
It's ever possibly think that's
acceptable, right?

1336
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,700
And actually say it's our staff.
You'd be, you'd be insane to do

1337
00:57:50,700 --> 00:57:52,100
that.
Are you setting up telling me

1338
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:54,900
that's true.
I'll tell you what.

1339
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:58,300
They're both true.
No, you absolutely must realize

1340
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:00,900
that both true.
I just, I thought it'd be funny.

1341
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:02,700
So they're both true.
Both of those stories are true

1342
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:04,700
that Anonymous posts.
I've seen on forums and things.

1343
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,900
Recently, that both true.
Do you know what that does

1344
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:10,000
really, really well to finish
this off from round, this off

1345
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:17,800
very nicely expose, how SLT some
of them think it's their job to

1346
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,500
eat as much free workout of
teachers as they possibly can.

1347
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:23,500
And the more free work they can
eke out of the river.

1348
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,200
That's for doing stuff that
you've directed time.

1349
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,600
And being told you've got to do
it or making them, try and work

1350
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,700
for a strike they where they're
not getting paid or making them.

1351
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:34,900
Try to provide work and do
something at home when they're

1352
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:39,900
caring for their sick.
Child, these people get a grip.

1353
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,200
So we're going to say to that
get a grip and if your SRT, I

1354
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,700
like that in a school, please,
can you tell us?

1355
00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:49,700
Because we will just say on this
podcast and then, oh, what, what

1356
00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:52,100
it might be playing in your room
as you're doing your marketing

1357
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:53,300
and they're coming around, I'm
sorry.

1358
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:56,800
Push pull this podcast.
That just how crazy is that?

1359
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:57,800
You're gonna take my chair off
me.

1360
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,000
Sorry, I'll stand up while some
marking.

1361
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,300
Sorry.
Yeah.

1362
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:02,900
We're here to expose them.
So send in your stories.

1363
00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:03,900
Come on.
Do it Anonymous.

1364
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:06,400
We won't make moment won't
mention any names or schools,

1365
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,700
anything like that.
It would just be here to expose

1366
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:10,700
and talk about because, you know
what the best bit is, Right?

1367
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,600
We've got this ultimate
protection here because if

1368
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,100
anyone gets annoyed at it call
you done wrong, then that's

1369
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:18,200
terrible.
I do this at my school you

1370
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,100
should be saying this because
actually that's really that cool

1371
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:22,300
your the toxic person then so
you can't say anything.

1372
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,600
Thanks for telling us that we
put on it to it.

1373
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:29,100
I'm SLT.
And I've done this before

1374
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:30,300
cooled.
You wanna come on?

1375
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:32,500
Because we'll have a chat pal.
Like, we can we connect week and

1376
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:33,700
a bit jumpy.
Really interesting.

1377
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:37,500
We have talked about guessing
before I would just like to get

1378
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:40,100
people in who do disagree with
us.

1379
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:42,000
Because the thing is, sometimes
there's a problem.

1380
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,000
I know, it's funny, and I know I
really enjoy these podcasts, but

1381
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,800
we do kind of overlap of about
80% of our opinions.

1382
00:59:48,500 --> 00:59:51,000
So, you know, even though we
are, obviously always write, it

1383
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,500
would be nice, sometimes someone
to get.

1384
00:59:53,700 --> 00:59:56,500
And on and have a chat with them
and then tell we can tell them

1385
00:59:56,500 --> 01:00:00,200
they're wrong.
Yeah, pretty great.

1386
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,400
Great.
Now, it was like horrible Jokes

1387
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,200
Aside Jokes Aside 100%.
It would be really cool to get

1388
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,300
some different views on because,
you know what, we probably

1389
01:00:07,300 --> 01:00:09,300
misunderstood some stuff even in
there.

1390
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,500
I mean, maybe not the working
moisture, caring for a sick

1391
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:13,300
child thing.
I don't know if that'd be like

1392
01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:16,000
that, but there's definitely
some, some parts of it that, you

1393
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,300
know, we haven't been in that
position and we don't know.

1394
01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:20,600
The pressures of is the chances
are some things within the five

1395
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,600
episodes we've done this.
There's, there's been a listener

1396
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:23,600
that's actually disagree with
something.

1397
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,400
We said, and that's fine.
We actually like that.

1398
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,300
And we are as opinionated as we
get as a heated as we get We are

1399
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:30,800
very, very happy to accept.
We're wrong.

1400
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,800
I situation aren't quite happy.
Listen to someone who's more

1401
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,600
expert than me and a topic and
tell me why I'm wrong.

1402
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:38,500
You know, I that's that's not
something I'm against I take

1403
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:41,600
pride to do that and I will try
to get more on the podcast in

1404
01:00:41,607 --> 01:00:44,500
the future Hayden tell you why
you specifically I'm wrong.

1405
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,200
Right.
Dylan, I think it's time to move

1406
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,400
on because we haven't even
talked about our stories from

1407
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,700
the classroom yet and you might
have noticed listeners that this

1408
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:55,700
is other, but of a chunkier
episode, a bit longer.

1409
01:00:55,700 --> 01:00:59,900
So if you are listening on
Spotify, let us know in the poll

1410
01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:01,200
below.
Whether you prefer this kind of

1411
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,900
length is about an hour long
compared to our usual, sort of

1412
01:01:03,908 --> 01:01:05,100
half an hour.
So we'd love to hear your

1413
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:06,500
feedback.
Absolutely.

1414
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:08,300
And if you're listening on any
other platform because we are

1415
01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:11,000
now an apple podcasts and we're
also on Amazon and all the other

1416
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,200
providers, could you please do
as a favor?

1417
01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:16,300
Why not follow us.
We can see that we are Gaining

1418
01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:18,800
followers every week.
It's absolutely fantastic.

1419
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,600
It helps spread this podcast and
it really helps us out.

1420
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,500
So if you could do that, and
give us a rating, maybe we'd be

1421
01:01:24,500 --> 01:01:27,100
hugely appreciative.
But Paden, as you've just said,

1422
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:29,400
should we dive into a few small
stories this week?

1423
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,100
Haven't we not one big one?
Yeah.

1424
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:33,200
And I actually want you to start
with a story that happened

1425
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,800
recently, something that
happened at a school which just

1426
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,700
was hilarious and I think you
probably know what I'm talking

1427
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:40,000
about involves a toilet but does
yeah.

1428
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,000
We we got have hinted towards
this last week.

1429
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,100
I almost forgot about this and
this wouldn't have been included

1430
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:47,600
today.
I had my friend don't message me

1431
01:01:47,607 --> 01:01:48,800
going.
Oh, I can't wait to hear about

1432
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,500
the toilet story.
And I was like, whatever you

1433
01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:52,900
talking about and he said, oh,
you said, you got locked in the

1434
01:01:52,900 --> 01:01:55,200
toilet.
Essentially, our school.

1435
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:58,700
The toilet has been like a
ongoing problem are poor site

1436
01:01:58,700 --> 01:02:01,500
manager.
I swear every, every other day I

1437
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:04,600
walk past the toilet and he's on
his knees, trying to fix the

1438
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,100
lock.
It's just been really dodgy for

1439
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:08,100
ages and he finally thought he
fixed it.

1440
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:11,000
And it was like, we take an
assigned down, you know, our

1441
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,600
head and put a sign on the
toilet door saying, don't use,

1442
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,700
unless you want to get locked in
making a little joke.

1443
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,600
Ha funny.
He taking that down the day

1444
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,600
before this happened.
As oh science, not gone.

1445
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,000
It's obviously fixed it.
I went in went to the toilet.

1446
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:27,000
Luckily, it was just a week and
you'll see what it's like in a

1447
01:02:27,008 --> 01:02:29,500
second.
I came back out.

1448
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:31,100
This is our school, open the
door.

1449
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:36,200
It I turned the lock and it just
stayed locked and oh, this is

1450
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,300
the 31.
So I'm opening it turning the

1451
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:40,500
lock again.
I'm like, okay, cool.

1452
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,100
Alright, no problem.
Stay calm down and stay calm.

1453
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,700
I could feel myself getting like
10% nervous.

1454
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:46,800
I could just feel a little
jumps.

1455
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,800
I know I'm locked in the toilet
though, so that's not great.

1456
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,100
So after school don't know who's
around.

1457
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:52,200
So I've got, it's not problem.
I've got my phone on me, I'll

1458
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,000
get my phone out.
And then I suddenly remembered

1459
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,600
that we get, absolutely no
signal, our school and 95% of

1460
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,200
the staff, get nothing on their
phone.

1461
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,200
So I'll try to ring Hayden funny
enough and my all catching Haden

1462
01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:03,000
straight to voice.
Hey, yeah, this is Hayden's

1463
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,100
voice, Matt.
Okay, so the Panic goes up to

1464
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:09,500
20% like I am locked in a toilet
though so we'll be good to go

1465
01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:11,300
earn it.
So I go over to the door and I

1466
01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:12,900
just start gently gently
knocking.

1467
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,100
Obviously, nothing happens
because this is in the corridor,

1468
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:17,800
this is like nowhere near a
classroom.

1469
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,900
The only saving grace would be
if someone happened to be

1470
01:03:19,900 --> 01:03:22,600
walking to the staff room, so
I'm embarrassing, isn't it?

1471
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,400
Embarrassing knocking on those
girls with, I bet.

1472
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:26,900
Yeah.
What's going on knocking

1473
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:30,400
knocking at 50%?
Now, getting a bit more, I'm

1474
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,000
locked in here.
And I've, I wanted to go out.

1475
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,700
I couldn't.
So I started like knocking, like

1476
01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:34,100
this.
Not.

1477
01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:38,400
Not, not, not not.
And apparently, the teachers had

1478
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,500
heard this knocking for a good
two minutes and just not hardest

1479
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:43,800
at this.
And they thought, Fixing the

1480
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:50,600
toilet, pretty used to it.
No, it's someone who cried wolf.

1481
01:03:50,900 --> 01:03:52,800
Yeah, literally.
That's just Dave, he's fixing

1482
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,100
the toilet.
Probably is always around there.

1483
01:03:54,300 --> 01:03:56,800
So Me Knocking knocking.
Anyway, eventually someone hears

1484
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,600
me.
It felt like 50 minutes.

1485
01:03:58,600 --> 01:03:59,800
It was probably 10 minutes
maximum.

1486
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,100
Someone hears me eventually and
I say hi.

1487
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:06,000
Yeah, I'm locked in and he was
like, oh God.

1488
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,900
So you went to find our site
manager.

1489
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:11,300
Dave absolute Legend and a Dave
comes along.

1490
01:04:11,300 --> 01:04:13,700
But in this time obviously the
teachers Come back to the

1491
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:16,600
classroom told the people who
had earlier and there's eight,

1492
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,800
there's eight people stood,
outside the door now, and I'm

1493
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,500
there going.
Oh, hi everyone.

1494
01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:25,600
Hayden, Hayden over here, gets
his phone starts with hoarding

1495
01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:28,200
right above at the top.
There's like a window pane that

1496
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,700
no one could see through.
So it's very private still.

1497
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,700
No one could see through it all.
I see, he just wax his hand

1498
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:34,900
above his phones.
They're filming.

1499
01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:38,800
There's a is locked in there.
Mate, 8 people start side

1500
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,700
laughing, you can imagine my
delight when I walk past and saw

1501
01:04:41,700 --> 01:04:44,200
this crowd around the toilet and
I know He's locked in there

1502
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,600
Dylan, Dylan.
Really, and I tell you now, and

1503
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:50,900
my teaching partner Amy.
She said this as well.

1504
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,800
She was just, like, I'm so glad
it was you and I said, what do

1505
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,200
you mean?
And her point was basically, if

1506
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,700
it was anyone else.
That'd be like, a lot of

1507
01:04:58,700 --> 01:05:00,200
concern, I think I'm people at
all.

1508
01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:03,100
Okay, let's just, let's keep
them calm because it was me.

1509
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:06,400
I just the way I am, I just, you
know, have a laugh and don't

1510
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,500
really take anything.
That's why I filmed it because

1511
01:05:08,500 --> 01:05:09,800
it's funny.
I knew exactly funny.

1512
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:12,500
Every single person was just
laughing having a joke sit

1513
01:05:12,500 --> 01:05:14,700
outside.
And whilst they were laughing

1514
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,300
the way it the way it.
So happened that I could have to

1515
01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:20,100
get out.
Was that the Dave, our site

1516
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:22,100
manager couldn't fix it from the
outside.

1517
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,600
So he came along and he goes are
still.

1518
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,400
I can only fix this from the
inside, and I went ha ha good

1519
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,400
one.
And he might no seriously, I can

1520
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,600
only fix it from the inside and
I was like, well, I'm on the

1521
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,000
inside and I'm logged in.
So how we gonna get out and

1522
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:35,700
straight away?
I'm like, cool.

1523
01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:37,700
We got to get the fire brigade
down it and it no, no, it's

1524
01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:39,900
fine, it's fine.
So, all I hear then I like

1525
01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:42,400
screws on screwing down the
bottom, then my feet and I look

1526
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,000
down and there's a vent.
I didn't realize there was a

1527
01:05:44,008 --> 01:05:47,300
vent on the door, so he's
basically undoing this vent.

1528
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,600
And what happens at this point.
He starts passing me tools

1529
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,500
through screwdriver different
head, like three different

1530
01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:56,700
things and he has to talk me
through how to unlock myself,

1531
01:05:56,700 --> 01:05:59,100
out the door.
I took the door apart, I took

1532
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:02,200
the handle off from the inside.
He was give me his instructions.

1533
01:06:02,300 --> 01:06:04,200
Obviously, it's funny.
So he's there and his knees.

1534
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,000
Trying to look, I'm going to
post a picture on Instagram by

1535
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,100
the way.
So if you're still listening to

1536
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:10,000
this are Instagram will also
have a picture of my head poking

1537
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,600
through to show you that this
really happened.

1538
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:14,200
Dave's on his knees.
Everyone's taking the mick.

1539
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,100
Just having a joke.
Having a laugh led by you.

1540
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:18,600
Can I just say Hayden?
Yeah, and it's so funny.

1541
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,300
We've got a video if they've
just sat, they just look

1542
01:06:20,300 --> 01:06:22,200
something else.
Can I talk to him?

1543
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,000
Please really cross.
You're so angry because we're

1544
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,100
days away.
Dave is the most chill guy.

1545
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,300
He's so lovely.
I've got a lot of time for Dave,

1546
01:06:31,300 --> 01:06:34,800
he's a great, great guy, and he
was just trying to help me and

1547
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,000
he was clearly getting annoyed.
Like, guys, I know it's still

1548
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,100
early and we can take the mick,
but can we get him out please?

1549
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:42,100
So past me through, I managed to
get out in the end, it took

1550
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:44,500
about five minutes and I got And
there was still six people

1551
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:46,600
there, and the funniest thing
that happened was, I'm out.

1552
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:47,400
It was like, yeah.
Okay.

1553
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,500
All right, is that?
Yeah, I do.

1554
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:51,100
Deputy head books.
I've gone.

1555
01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:52,400
I don't think he is.
All right.

1556
01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:55,000
Fine, I'm fine.
I promise.

1557
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,000
And the best thing was I
actually finally managed to get

1558
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,200
out and what happened here, but
the whole year five team had

1559
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,800
just caught wind that you are
stuck in a toilet and we're

1560
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,700
making their way down to see and
you know presumably laugh at you

1561
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,200
and you just got out as they
arrive.

1562
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,600
They're like, oh, it's just it's
not didn't care about you, they

1563
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:18,500
just are I didn't get to see.
It is caged animal in his toilet

1564
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:20,500
but yeah, it was a weird
feeling, you know, because I

1565
01:07:20,508 --> 01:07:22,400
actually said after I came out
and I was fine.

1566
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,700
Well, yeah, it's fine, it's
fine.

1567
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:26,600
And I just like calm down a bit
and I realized that for about

1568
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,100
five minutes I wasn't fine at
one point and I was very much

1569
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,700
just pacing up and down like I'm
going to be in here forever.

1570
01:07:31,700 --> 01:07:34,600
How can I teach from the toilet?
Hey kids get your books out

1571
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,500
Kenya.
It's like it's taking that

1572
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,900
pretty mm.
Well, I've got another story or

1573
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:42,200
expense because earlier on in
the podcast I was about to start

1574
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,700
telling a story and We said
we'll save it for now, right?

1575
01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:50,500
And and that story is, is it
happened, really recently and I

1576
01:07:50,500 --> 01:07:52,300
just forgot to mention it when
we're talking about a week,

1577
01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:54,200
right?
So I've not had this, you know,

1578
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,900
how this and it will ring a bell
because it's something I'm a few

1579
01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:58,000
years ago but it's come up
again.

1580
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,100
And it just made me laugh,
right?

1581
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:01,200
Okay.
So a couple of years ago, I

1582
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,000
found this.
Well I think you might even show

1583
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,700
me this just hilarious picture
of Dillon, right?

1584
01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:06,800
Maybe we could post this on
Instagram as well as, okay?

1585
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,400
Yes, grab my clothes it's and I
call it baby mr.

1586
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,500
Price.
He was young by then a couple of

1587
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:13,000
years old and it's just the
pose.

1588
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,600
The Of the posture.
You do is just it, maybe one of

1589
01:08:15,607 --> 01:08:16,899
them.
It's one of the classic ones.

1590
01:08:16,899 --> 01:08:19,200
Have like, the blue velvet
background back in the 90s.

1591
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,000
Yeah.
Like yeah.

1592
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,600
Like I'm just like turn to the
side on of my hands together.

1593
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,300
Have but you look, you look both
Thirty and three at the same

1594
01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:28,899
time, it's so funny.
And I just love the picture.

1595
01:08:28,899 --> 01:08:30,800
It's one my favorites and I
already took a picture on my

1596
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,100
phone.
Anyway, couple of years ago.

1597
01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:35,700
Just a bit of a hook for my math
class, who all kids that knew

1598
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:37,200
you because they had come up
through the school and they

1599
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,399
actually six.
Right?

1600
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,899
I put this on one of my lessons
and I said, baby, mr.

1601
01:08:41,899 --> 01:08:43,200
Price gives you a gives you a
proven.

1602
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,200
It was just enough jokes to make
them laugh and it escalated into

1603
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,600
becoming baby Mr. Price cards
and which made a limited

1604
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,600
edition, right?
I just pray, I put it into a

1605
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,200
Word document printed them,
laminated them and I made like

1606
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,899
maybe 20 or so, and each card
had fight, it came with fight

1607
01:08:58,899 --> 01:09:00,899
with 15 points.
Some schools do that house

1608
01:09:00,899 --> 01:09:02,899
points and things, so it's
something they wanted, right?

1609
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:04,899
And I said, you're the Gil, get
this and I'll never make them

1610
01:09:04,899 --> 01:09:06,200
again.
They're limited edition.

1611
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,500
So if you get one treasure it,
I'm never doing this again,

1612
01:09:08,899 --> 01:09:11,100
like, a shiny coyote, when you
collect it for, exactly.

1613
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,899
I said, the only get it for
really special things.

1614
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:15,300
You're not just going to get it
for nothing so they were I've

1615
01:09:15,300 --> 01:09:17,300
never known children to want
something so bad, it was

1616
01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:20,000
hilarious.
Any other school, reward me baby

1617
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,399
mr.
Price cards, please give you

1618
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:23,300
one.
I've heard that children still

1619
01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:24,899
have them years on from their
siblings.

1620
01:09:24,899 --> 01:09:26,200
They said, oh yeah, he's got on
his wall.

1621
01:09:28,300 --> 01:09:31,200
So, anyway, yes, yesterday.
It's very recently.

1622
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,100
Anyway, HR came into my car's
the same child.

1623
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:35,000
Funny enough.
Who thought we were?

1624
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,300
Brothers says, right?
Funny and said I found her bed,

1625
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:39,700
mr.
Brice.

1626
01:09:39,700 --> 01:09:43,899
Garden the library.
No, and it off Like Nate.

1627
01:09:43,899 --> 01:09:46,000
What does thinking this is a
couple years ago now.

1628
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,300
I surely.
Yeah.

1629
01:09:47,300 --> 01:09:49,100
I was like I said, Go Get It, Go
Get It.

1630
01:09:49,100 --> 01:09:51,000
Go to the library get it he
brought it back and he's got

1631
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,300
this these treasuring, this baby
Mr. Price car holding it and I

1632
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:57,000
just was so funny and I said he
could keep it as like what

1633
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,900
really as if I've given him a
trophy.

1634
01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:01,100
No.
Can I ask ya gon keep it?

1635
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:03,100
You found you keep that one.
Yes, yes, yes.

1636
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:05,700
Kids around him.
Like oh what you got on it are

1637
01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:08,500
what believe it.
I've got to make some more of

1638
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:10,800
these things.
Oh my God, it's like a shiny

1639
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,200
Harry Kane.
So I got one, I'm gonna Trade

1640
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,000
It.
Oh that's unreal.

1641
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,300
I love that so much.
If you want to see the picture,

1642
01:10:16,300 --> 01:10:18,200
check out the Instagram, I'll
get Dylan's post it.

1643
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,300
But yeah you can see why I made
cards have it.

1644
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:22,300
Oh, that's pretty.
And I love, I love those little

1645
01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:25,300
things we do with the children,
which I just like, if you go, I

1646
01:10:25,308 --> 01:10:28,200
mean, they just unnecessary the
kind of thing where maybe of SLT

1647
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,200
walked in the kind of SLT that
we've seen.

1648
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,000
We've talked about today, they
would kind of turn up their nose

1649
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,200
to it.
If you, if you spent like even

1650
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,000
30 seconds and a lesson doing
something like that, their

1651
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,500
response would be something
along the lines of how did they

1652
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:42,500
make progress in that 30
seconds.

1653
01:10:42,500 --> 01:10:45,200
So I tell you how they Progress
because I made a better bond

1654
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,400
with them and in the future
they're going to enjoy being in

1655
01:10:48,407 --> 01:10:50,500
my company more about to teach
them better.

1656
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,600
But was this one time where I
put it on the screen I just just

1657
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,500
get like you said nonsense this
is nonsense.

1658
01:10:56,500 --> 01:10:58,900
It meant nothing but it but the
kids had a good day because of

1659
01:10:58,900 --> 01:10:59,600
it.
So whatever.

1660
01:11:00,700 --> 01:11:02,600
Every time they're to every time
they went to talk, they had to

1661
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:03,800
bow to the mr.
Price.

1662
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,200
Okay.
I think I start talking.

1663
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,000
I don't know.
They're like, oh yeah.

1664
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,500
Sorry, bad picture.
As I told you, it's like a

1665
01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:12,900
shrine of you at the front is
just so funny with messing

1666
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:14,400
around.
And but they had a good day.

1667
01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:17,100
Do you remember that time?
Where in your class you had

1668
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:18,600
this?
I think it was last year, maybe

1669
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,000
a couple years ago, you had a
pet which they could take home

1670
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,500
and take pictures off and you do
not real pet.

1671
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,200
No, no.
Sorry, I'd better clear it was

1672
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,200
it was not real.
Guinea pig was like a toy guinea

1673
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,100
pig.
Like I tell ya and the idea was

1674
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:31,800
they could just take it home for
a week.

1675
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,200
Have some pictures in like, you
know, ever, they were up to that

1676
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,800
weekend.
Have picture with the hamster

1677
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,000
there and it was just really
interesting wall of pictures of

1678
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,400
kids were gaming, some kids were
in the car and the trip, see

1679
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,400
their family, some kids are on
holiday and it was really I

1680
01:11:43,407 --> 01:11:46,500
select selection of pictures so
I just had a new picture taken

1681
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:51,200
for for the school photo and
when that happens for some

1682
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,200
reason, in our pigeonhole, we
get like a almost like a

1683
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,000
passport sheet of like four by
two by two or four pictures of

1684
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,700
us, just just print it just, I
don't know.

1685
01:11:58,708 --> 01:12:00,900
It's like a copy they had, I
don't know what it was but it

1686
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:03,000
was in my pigeon hole anyway and
I thought I'm okay.

1687
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,800
So I just walked around to your
room when you went in there and

1688
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,900
I put it up on the wall amongst
these pictures.

1689
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:10,500
So, these pictures will these
children with hamsters and stuff

1690
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:12,600
and then in the middle is just
for portraits of me there,

1691
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,400
smiling in the The middle
remember because I didn't tell

1692
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,800
you and you and I walked in one
timer who's that with her with

1693
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,300
the hamster up there and four
months.

1694
01:12:20,300 --> 01:12:23,400
It just been on your wall.
No one noticed.

1695
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,100
Yeah.
Eventually, kids, kids did to be

1696
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:26,600
fair.
Some kids did actually go.

1697
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,300
What, what's that layout?
Yeah, they like it's a big

1698
01:12:29,300 --> 01:12:31,300
surprise that.
Yeah, I don't ask, I don't know

1699
01:12:31,300 --> 01:12:32,100
what happened up.
There.

1700
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:33,900
Is that your brother now?
It's my cousin.

1701
01:12:35,900 --> 01:12:39,300
Yeah, just one more thing
because I just, I'm on one now,

1702
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,700
right?
It's another a game, but it

1703
01:12:41,700 --> 01:12:43,200
just, it's just all this
nonsense again, right?

1704
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,700
That's a game I've invented and
I got a new ta recently so that

1705
01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:50,500
the context is I've invented
this ridiculous game with my

1706
01:12:50,500 --> 01:12:53,400
math class and then my new ta ta
is come in.

1707
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,100
And I've actually I was a little
bit embarrassed to do it.

1708
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:57,000
I was like, that's gonna, she's
gonna think that.

1709
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,700
I'm genuinely insane.
Like I've lost my mind.

1710
01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:00,600
Like what right?
If is this guy doing teaching?

1711
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:05,100
Kids game just trying to make
times tables more fun?

1712
01:13:05,300 --> 01:13:07,100
They don't want a dish, they do
which they chop on a chart.

1713
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:08,600
They've done it for years there
in year.

1714
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,000
Six.
Exactly.

1715
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,700
Like they've done dice games.
I've done that today.

1716
01:13:11,700 --> 01:13:13,200
We've done times rocks and
stuff.

1717
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:17,000
If and have one game is a wild.
Wild west shootout and have to

1718
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,100
like walk away from each other.
First one to say, the answer,

1719
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:20,400
like wins the other person sits
down.

1720
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,700
Anyway, we've done all these
games loads and I just I don't

1721
01:13:23,700 --> 01:13:26,100
know why, but I sometimes walk
around with my meter stick, I

1722
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:28,100
just love holding it as like a
little Cain, I can just walk

1723
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:30,300
around, I can rest on it eluded,
it's just a habit.

1724
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:31,400
I like just fiddling with stuff,
right?

1725
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,800
So I'm walking around this meat
stick and and it's, and it's

1726
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,100
Hollow for all the way through
the middle.

1727
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:36,800
One of those won't red and
yellow ones, right?

1728
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:40,600
And for some reason, I said,
let's pretend were in the jungle

1729
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,100
and your animals trying to run
away, and I've got a blow job.

1730
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:49,300
And so, I held it up like a big
blow dart and, and if I, if I

1731
01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:51,100
got them at the blow dart, they
had to answer my time saver

1732
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:53,300
question in less than 5 seconds
or they, or they have to, like,

1733
01:13:53,300 --> 01:13:56,800
tend to pass out because they
were like, tranquilized just,

1734
01:13:57,700 --> 01:14:00,100
you know, I'm saying it now and
I'm going red because it's so

1735
01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:02,300
embarrassing.
I think they obviously,

1736
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,800
obviously, they loved it because
it is just completely insane.

1737
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,900
So there's that, they're like
tends to get shot by a blow dart

1738
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:09,900
and then pretend to be
tranquilized if they didn't

1739
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:11,200
answer the question, it's really
good.

1740
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,100
So Disney taste Starts in my
math class and what because I'll

1741
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:17,600
go pay the product.
We've had about darts and I'll

1742
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,100
just wait, I shouldn't.
I shouldn't read because I was

1743
01:14:19,108 --> 01:14:21,500
thinking, I don't want to play
that in front of this home

1744
01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:24,100
because they're gonna think
they're gonna like question why

1745
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:28,000
I'm in this job like just
complete Insanity.

1746
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,300
I just imagine, it's not gonna
first, I think, you know, okay.

1747
01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:32,500
How do you teach times tables in
this school and you're just

1748
01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:34,000
there with a blow dart, your
mouths.

1749
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,200
Gonna, I'm just gonna implode of
times tables.

1750
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:39,500
Yes, we do.
Sometimes table, as she goes to

1751
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:41,300
get the dice out, and I've
already got my blow dart, my

1752
01:14:41,300 --> 01:14:45,500
full jungle.
The kids have been on the

1753
01:14:45,500 --> 01:14:47,300
elephant is like what?
What's going on.

1754
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:50,300
So instead we played the Wild
Wild West game where they you

1755
01:14:50,308 --> 01:14:52,600
know just like just classic just
you know they walk away from

1756
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,000
each other first been so time
stable.

1757
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,000
So I put on some Wild Wild West
music and I go into this world

1758
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,900
will accent and she's already
looking at me thinking, what is

1759
01:14:59,900 --> 01:15:01,100
wrong with this guy on?
It's not.

1760
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:04,400
I recognize I reckon she's
thinking what a nice way to

1761
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,100
engage the children because
that's what it's all about,

1762
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:08,900
right?
You know that it is, is crazy

1763
01:15:08,900 --> 01:15:12,300
what you're saying, and it's
just a shame that some cultures

1764
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:14,600
some school.
Cultures rather we'll just look

1765
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,600
down on that kind of thing.
It's absolutely fine.

1766
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,800
Isn't it?
As long as it doesn't like

1767
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,900
genuinely just waste waste try
and control.

1768
01:15:20,900 --> 01:15:23,300
Yeah, I think I think it's fine
as long as there's a purpose to

1769
01:15:23,300 --> 01:15:24,600
it, if it's about engagement.
Fine.

1770
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,300
If it's about, you just hiding
some learning in some sort of

1771
01:15:27,300 --> 01:15:28,600
fun activity than fine, you
know.

1772
01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:33,200
And I do find actually that 95%
of when my children are most

1773
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,800
engaged.
It's just what I've taught

1774
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,600
something really well and
explicitly and clearly and

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they're just practice doing it.
Like engagement doesn't have to

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come from all these fancy bells
and whistles Is the kind of

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thing we like to do every now,
and then, but actually the best

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engagement comes from children,
understanding something well,

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and having worked pitch, that
are high level.

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And I think over the years,
we've probably realized as well,

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that these little fun things, we
do of the children.

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That if you do them all the
time, it does have a negative

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impact.
It actually, if you rile up the

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children, I know you mentioned
this previously.

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I think at a bit of a discussion
in our pot yeah, talk about it

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more another time but if you
roll them up is actually hard to

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get them back and then you can
impact the learning.

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So you've got to be careful when
you do these things.

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For sure, for sure.
But I must say, I know you

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touched on it earlier.
This is been a mega episode.

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01:16:17,900 --> 01:16:20,200
I'm actually really excited that
we've done this because we said

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a few times.
We were aiming for half an hour

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01:16:22,300 --> 01:16:24,400
for these podcasts won't be in.
The first one came at half an

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hour and we said to ourselves,
we're just gonna have a chat and

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if it goes on and on and we're
interested in and we'll just go

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01:16:29,500 --> 01:16:30,900
put out there and we'll see what
you guys think.

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So this is a much longer episode
today, really looking forward to

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01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:36,500
seeing how you guys react to it.
Whether you liked it, do you

1799
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:38,600
listen to it in chunks?
Do you listen to it all in one

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01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,200
go?
When do you listen to our

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01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,800
podcast?
I'm really really interested

1802
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,100
guys because your audience with
your Reason we're doing this as

1803
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:45,500
well.
We enjoy doing it but we want to

1804
01:16:45,500 --> 01:16:48,900
give you some entertainment.
So do email us at our lovely

1805
01:16:48,900 --> 01:16:52,100
email which Hayden loves and
says he's very succinct, teach

1806
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:55,000
seek repeat POD at gmail.com, it
doesn't have to be with the

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01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,800
story, it can be with us, funny
story from school.

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01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:01,000
It can be a story about rules or
expectations that are just crazy

1809
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,200
that you've heard about in the
school, but it could just be to

1810
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,700
say hello, we'd love to hear
from you guys and I will just

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01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:08,500
say, so yeah, it could be an
insult and I was ruin our day.

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One thing, very quickly.
On Instagram, I've noticed

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different I've noticed that the
I don't know if Instagram is

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01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,000
messing up.
Guys if any of you are listening

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01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,600
to this and you have messages on
Instagram and we haven't

1816
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,400
replied, can you just let us
know or email us because my

1817
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,700
Instagram saying that we've got
messages but I can't find them

1818
01:17:24,700 --> 01:17:25,800
anywhere.
I think I might be lost in

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01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,900
requests or something, I'll have
a dick.

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01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,800
But if you are one of those
people do, let us know.

1821
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,100
Get in touch via the email
because we are going to reply to

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everyone.
Until obviously we have fifty

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01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,800
thousand listeners but for now
if you message us if you get in

1824
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,400
touch if you reply to our story,
if you give us an email we will

1825
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,500
reply to you.
We really want to hear what you

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01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:45,200
think.
Cool.

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,000
Well listen, let's do one final
story in this podcast, will wrap

1828
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,900
it up, right?
Because I want to talk about

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01:17:50,900 --> 01:17:52,600
that the story.
It wasn't waiting for, but

1830
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,800
Prince sticks, I hate immigrants
there because we have reached

1831
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,900
the limit of our podcast.
So guys you want about their it

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01:17:58,900 --> 01:18:01,600
stick stick around for next week
and we look forward to seeing

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you then catch you next time
everyone.